JD is much smarter than that...he's not going to screw over his own team and other GMs around the league like Kevin Lowe.

If they offered him 4.5 then you say take him, thanks for the 1st round pick. :)

Edit: actually I'm wrong, it would be 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. That would be a sweet way to get a 1st rounder for nothing.

I'm not understanding this how it works. Can someone explain?
I thought Canucks already signed Bernier. Another team can still offer money and take him away? How much is the Canucks currently offering Bernier?

Penner is getting 4.25 per season, not bad for a guy with his skill/size/potential considering how crazy salaries are getting these days. It was Burke who screwed himself over by signing Bertuzzi to 8 million over 2.

Lol that's pretty funny though, the st louis offer. No doubt Gillis will match... but if Bernier scores 25-30 goals he's in for a big pay day.

what if gillis didnt match ROFL

Bernier was a RFA when Canucks traded for his rights. When he came to Even though he became Canucks property he still needed to sign a contract. Canucks didn't sign him to a deal yet, thus St Louis offered him 2.5 million for one year and he signed that. Canucks now have the option of matching or declining. If they decline, Bernier is signed with the Blues.

Bernier was not under contract when we picked him up. We aquired him from Buffalo yes but we still had to sign him to a contract.

canucks only have the rights to benier as of now

the rights of benier from buffalo to canucks for 2nd and 3rd round pick

THE RIGHTS OF NEGOTIATION

...for a guy that talks a lot about the Canucks you sure know very little.

if you take the timeline out of the equation, it's a three way deal if canucks dont match. buffalo gets 2nd rounder in '09, 3rd rounder in '10, st.louis gets bernier, we get 1,2,3 rounder from st. louis.

so that being said... if we end up signing demitra &/or sundin, pick up a high 1st first rounder (if st. louis sucks in 08/09), and get higher picks (again, assuming st. louis still sucks) in the 2nd and 3rd round... did we fair well?


edit: oops... forgot that bernier is a group II RFA... we would only get a 2nd rounder from st. louis as compensation. NOT SUCH A GOOD DEAL AFTERALL!

in his defence, you can know a lot about a team or the sport without knowing a whole lot about the business side. if you're an expert at the salary cap, but don't know what an odd man rush is, are you a hockey fan?

I understand that but read the past couple of pages. He gives his opinion like it's the only one that matters yet he doesn't even know what an RFA is? :confused:

2.5M for Bernier? Are the Blues lowballing us back for our offer to Backes? :lol

If Bernier has a good year with the Sedins, he could be asking for like 4-5m next year

if bernier has chemistry with the twins, he could be easily worth that much, so 2.5 would be a steal!

and herein lies the risk of signing a guy formerly worth $850,000 to a ONE YEAR DEAL at $2.5m

oh, dont get me wrong, i've been reading his posts for over a year in these two threads. i know where you're coming from. i think he knows what an RFA is, his error was in failing to realize that we traded for his rights, not his contract.

canucks matched the st. louis offer sheet and signed bernier at 1yr/2.5m

My opinions in the past few pages were all about my opinion on certain things, mainly about players and who I think would make an impact and who I think would not. It had little to do with the business side of things which I admit I don't know much of. The only topic of business side I brought up is how I think Nonis got fired a bit too quick. I don't see how I made any opinions sound like it's the only one that mattered.

Then we gave away a 3rd rounder for nothing.

Gay...$2.5 million...

I wonder what Gillis was offering him in the first place.

better be a good project for that price kek kek

I'm betting somewhere around there but was probably trying to get him locked in for 2-3 years.

It could screw us if he has a huge season with the twins this year and we have to pay him way more next year.

they said they were close to a multi year deal anyways, so hopefully he pans out like Kes did

I"m confused, why did the offer sheet restrict them from signing him to a multi year deal? Couldnt they have just signed him for say, 3 yrs (7.5m?)