Zimmerman and Aquaman are both horrible public speakers.

Toastmasters please.

Sundin will sign in Vancouver. Mark my words.

I really don't see how you can spend $2 million just on the dressing room.

Mini LCD screens in each player's locker with a choice of 24/7 porn channels.

well, there's two dressing rooms, two workout rooms, all of them are loaded with tvs and shit, plus coaches offices, equipment rooms, and every stall has a glory hole with on demand service, sponsored by swedish touch.

Youd really be surprised at how expensive renovations actually do cost. 2 million dollars isn't really all that shocking. The 2 mill will be more then just for new hooks and closets for each player.

bieksa for vermette would give us an extra million or so. i know it goes against my "little to nothing in return" quote, but i doubt we're going to see some of our forwards hitting the bricks... take a look at the roster, who could we trade for prospects/picks, pyatt? we cant get rid of raymond, burrows or kesler, they're worth way too much to us. look at the back end, we have seven roster players, plus three others that just signed two-ways. if we're going to make a move, it's going to be a defenseman.

Thank You, someone actually thinking about the small details in the organization rather then the shit that everyone already knows (IE. LETS SIGN HOSSA, NAGY, REDDEN, CAMPBELL, TRADE FOR GABRIOK). Its evident that in order to run a susessful team, it all starts with the people in suits, yes, not the guys on the ice but the guys on the desk crunching numbers and scouting "talent". Im glad we revamped our whole scouting department cause lets be honest, we could have many other players coming in rather then just life time AHLer's or moose players. Lets look at Detriot, yeah they sign big names but most of the team comes from young player development, something the canucks lacked for many years.

Once you get a constant flow of young talent on teams that can contribute, that is where you're cap room can be used to help sign a big name guy that can help not only contribute on the ice but in the locker room.....oh wait, this is sounding all too close to something.......OH WAIT, thats what the Canucks are trying to do!! :haha:

I for one love gillis and even if we stink up this whole season, all these players are under either 1 way contracts or 2 year contracts....so saying that, he is really aiming to win the cup within the next two years (realistic or not)....but i dont even mind that cause from the way i see it, he's doing as much as he can in these next two years when we are guarenteed to have luongo.

If things dont work out, all these players are let go and we start again, but not from scratch but from the younger talent that do develop and through free agency to fill in holes (IE. What Detriot has been doing for quite a long time).

Im glad we didn't offer any stupid contracts to players that were getting 3-7year terms, that is how you put youre team in the hole for a while.

Saying that, its easy to say sign the big name players but its the diamonds in the rough, guys like Kesler, Burrows, Bernier, etc that are going to win you championships.

GO CANUCKS GO!

So is getting Vermette only neccessary if Sundin officially declines?
Because Canucks don't need 3 main centremen.
Unless Henrik is going out the door.

Actually Demitra can play centre or wing. He actually prefer wing
Wellwood can also play centre or wing. So we have flexibility there. So I believe that only leaves us with Ryan Johnson who would be our 4th line centre, Kesler on our 3rd, and Sedin on our first or second depending if Sundin signs. Of course like I mentioned Demitra and Woody can both be play centre if they need to. In terms of players who will most likely be on our everyday lineup of course. We have more centres then that but whether the rest will even be on the team is another story

sedin
kesler
*sundin
shannon
*vermette
byron ritchie
rick rypien
ryan johnson
jason krog

pick four.

of course, this is best case scenario, but on any given day, these are the guys available to play centre. having too many of one position isn't a bad thing. these are pro athletes, and it's not asking too much of a guy to play wing if he's normally a centre.

I completely forgot Demitra's a centre. So basically Canucks will have
Sundin, Henrik, Demitra, Kesler, Wellwood, Johson, Vermette
(assuming Sundin and Vermette is a Canuck)
so Canucks have a handful of centremen.


Edit: lol, Rickster just listed some more.

if you don't list demitra as a rw, that leaves us with only bernier, hansen, jaffray & brown.

like i said, they're pro athletes, if demitra gets put on a line with sundin and shannon, sure you have three centres, but it doesn't mean they're all going to be clusterfucked out there and not produce. hockey is a wonderful sport in that if you're a centre, you're a forward, and if you're a winger you're still a forward. they'll just put the guys with the strongest faceoff skills in for the draw, then switch it around during the play if it becomes an issue of body positioning.

I agree with you but at the same time, centers aren't usually scronny little shits. They are usually the "power forward" type. Where as a winger is smaller, faster. Also the wingers don't typically like switching wings because generally they play their wing which often depends on which way they shoot.

This isn't like drop in hockey on Sunday nights where you are either out there playing forward or staying back on D lol.

off the top of my head, brendan morrison is a centre and todd bertuzzi is a winger. jarome iginla is a winger and langkow is a centre. daniel briere is a centre and gagne is a winger. this goes exactly against what you just said. you are right that a lot of wingers play their respective side because of their potential to work better angles, but do you really honestly think that a players handedness is going to get in the way of a coach (especially vigneault) putting three centres on the ice playing them on-wing if he thinks they're going to put up good numbers? naslund & sedins played on a line together quite a bit... all left handed shots. if sundin signs in vancouver, who is everyone slating him to play with? demitra and raymond? all lefties. you want to talk about saturday night hockey? the kind where the dude with the one piece stick and oakley visor and wheeled bag thinks that just because he has a left handed shot that he should play right wing?? you play with the guys who can create good chemistry, and if that means that superstar left winger has to play left wing... boo hoo, he won't be complaining when he pots 40 goals.

i wasn't comparing defensemen to forwards. i was comparing left and right wingers to centres and vice versa. players are drafted for their ability to either play DEFENSE or FORWARD effectively, unless they truly stand out in their respective position.

You guys have to remember that its a MUCH EASIER transition for a center to play the wing. It's not as easy for a natural winger to play center. There's a reason why wingers are usually traded before centerman because a good centerman is hard to come by.

Centerman also has a higher defensive responsibility than wingers so that's why it harder for a winger to start playing centre as well.

just want to share something really interesting. the jersey store by pacific center had a bunch of canucks jerseys with sundin on them lol. i'll get some pictures tomorrow when i work out there again ahhaha.

^ Doesn't mean anything...could just be the store is trying to cash in on the whole Sundin craze

^ i know, i just thought it was funny.

^ Would be pretty funny if people start buying them and Sundin ends up somewhere else :lol

do you guys think Shanny is worth a run at for the nuck's?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/thewire/hock...returning_but/

^ shanny admitted few weeks ago that canucks never gave him an offer on july 1st., what makes u think things will be different now?

shanny is getting old, but still pretty damn good + he's got a lot of heart.

Those'll be worth about $5 when he re-signs with Toronto :haha:

Be a good way to get a new Jersey cheap tho - just go to work with a seam ripper to take the SUNDIN off... little snip-snip, turn the N into an E...

#13 Sedin, Lol