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Soundy 07-12-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by the_rickster (Post 5940836)
the problem with hockey cities is that people care way more than they should. the shitty thing about our situation is that vancouver is an elitist city and we've endured 20+ years of mediocre results on the ice and we want to be the best at everything.

The other problem is that a lot of people in this town THINK they know more about hockey than they really do, kind of the way the nouveau riche think they know about caviar and thoroughbreds and Rolls Royces. Going to Canucks games is a "cool" and "glamorous" thing for corporations to treat their clients to, even if neither knows anything about hockey... but they like to PRETEND that they know EVERYTHING about hockey, and spout off about it at every opportunity.

Obviously this isn't true of EVERYONE in the stands at the games, but I think Vancouver holds an unfortunate position in between the "true" hockey towns like the Original Six cities, where even the big money "gets" hockey, or the small markets where there AREN'T all those big-money playas who hold most of the season tickets... and the non-traditional-hockey-market towns where there are a passionate fans who KNOW they don't know that much about hockey, but enjoy it anyway.

LaiD 07-12-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Roach (Post 5939848)
Apparently Jason Krog (former NHLer) has signed a 1 way deal with the Canucks.

He is listed on the NHL.com roster for the Canucks.

Krog was the leading scorer in the AHL last year and led his team to the Calder Cup.

Kev

Just a thought... he could be used as part of a trade package to another team thats close or below the cap floor to pad the deal.

Seamo 07-12-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 5940681)
thats why he's only making 1.5mil a season.

typical canucks fans tryin to find something to complain about. and who said this guy is a cancer is just a complete moron, just cause the girls come to see him.

If a guy scores fans complain that he doesnt hit, and if a guy hits alot, u complain that he doesnt score enough. And when he does both u gotta pay him 3+mil and then u complain about him making too much money.
Theres no winning in this city.

Happened with Naslund, Bertuzzi, Cloutier, Cooke, Kesler.
Happening now with the Sedins, Bieksa, Pyatt, Salo, eventually Demitra, and probably Sundin if he comes.


i never complained about naslund, bert cooke or kesler. naslund wasnt comfortable with AV's system. Bertuzzi pretty much just changed after that game with Moore, Cooke does what cooke does best. and kesler is still developing. Cloutier is just too funny as a choker and letting shitty goals in.

Pyatt just doesnt really do much. He was pretty much playing between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd line last season and if he only could get like 37pts thats pretty much stank imo.

6thGear. 07-12-2008 12:55 PM

lol...thats so true. i remember my HS social studies teacher telling us that BC loves to be first in everything. whether its good or bad. crime, poverty, taxes, health...etc, etc


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Originally Posted by the_rickster (Post 5940836)
welcome to vancouver. the city is like that for everything. if you have a nice car, you must be a drug dealer. if you've got a hot girlfriend she must be a whore, if you've got a good job, it must be a family business. the city is negative, and thats why a lot of players don't like it here. beautiful scenery, negative people and constant press. just like they were saying on 1040 the other day, naslund's wife got harassed all the fucking time about her hubby being overpaid. the problem with hockey cities is that people care way more than they should. the shitty thing about our situation is that vancouver is an elitist city and we've endured 20+ years of mediocre results on the ice and we want to be the best at everything.


cspec 07-12-2008 12:55 PM

^ sooo damn true. unbelievably true.

Harvey Specter 07-12-2008 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 5940681)
thats why he's only making 1.5mil a season.

typical canucks fans tryin to find something to complain about. and who said this guy is a cancer is just a complete moron, just cause the girls come to see him.

If a guy scores fans complain that he doesnt hit, and if a guy hits alot, u complain that he doesnt score enough. And when he does both u gotta pay him 3+mil and then u complain about him making too much money.
Theres no winning in this city.

Happened with Naslund, Bertuzzi, Cloutier, Cooke, Kesler.
Happening now with the Sedins, Bieksa, Pyatt, Salo, eventually Demitra, and probably Sundin if he comes.


And typical Canucks fan who thinks he knows it all and goes on a rant because someone spoke up and made an opinion about a player on the team. Must we go through this every season? :rolleyes:

Gt-R R34 07-12-2008 02:07 PM

any predictions where we finish this season with what we have done SO FAR:

9-10th > in the conference.

the_rickster 07-12-2008 02:13 PM

you think we won't make the playoffs?

fuuuuuck.


i say 6th in the west, 2nd in the division.

iwantaskyline 07-12-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the_rickster (Post 5940954)
you think we won't make the playoffs?

fuuuuuck.


i say 6th in the west, 2nd in the division.

we'll win the division.
both calgary and minni got shittier up front.
as for edmonton and colorado their goalies lick.
if we get sundin i think we can make 2nd in the conference to detroit :D

murd0c 07-12-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roach (Post 5939848)
Apparently Jason Krog (former NHLer) has signed a 1 way deal with the Canucks.

He is listed on the NHL.com roster for the Canucks.

Krog was the leading scorer in the AHL last year and led his team to the Calder Cup.

Kev

so where does it tell about the signing. All I can see is it says nucks but there's nothing saying about he has actually signed. This could be a move to make the moose a better team tho.

Hondaracer 07-12-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 5940958)
we'll win the division.
both calgary and minni got shittier up front.
as for edmonton and colorado their goalies lick.
if we get sundin i think we can make 2nd in the conference to detroit :D

calgary got shittier up front?

Camallerri with Iginla is going to be a deadly combo..

if anything imo teams around us are still much better, and have improved more with proven talent then we have.

b0unce. [?] 07-12-2008 02:56 PM

^ factor in bert as well

RiceIntegraRS 07-12-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jah (Post 5940938)
And typical Canucks fan who thinks he knows it all and goes on a rant because someone spoke up and made an opinion about a player on the team. Must we go through this every season? :rolleyes:

No im not the typical Canuck fan. Cause the typical Canuck fan whines and bitches and makes their own dumb opinions about the team. Someone that never looks at the bright side and always has something negative to say. Like u!


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Originally Posted by jah
lmao, enough said. I don't think he's going to be much of an impact player

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Originally Posted by jah
I'll rather not see Mo or Naslund return. That's the problem with this team, they keep players who should be traded or let go. It's time to move on, get some fresh faces in the lineup.

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Originally Posted by jah
God, why the hell do we need Sundin for? Sure he scored a few goals last season but the man is past his prime and not worth taking a risk for the money he's asking for

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Originally Posted by jah
Sundin is old and injury prone so how in the hell do you justify paying that kind of money for a player who might miss a ton of games?

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Originally Posted by jah
No point of going back and fourth about Sundin, all I will say is it will be a huge mistake for the Canucks to get him.

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Originally Posted by jah
I hate to admit it but I miss Nonis, lol.

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Originally Posted by jah
I guess our only choice now is to resign Nazzy and Mo... :Puke:

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Originally Posted by jah
Wow, this team officially has no offensive talent left.

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Originally Posted by jah
We're officially the weakest team in the NW and maybe in the West. Gillis needs to pull out all the stops and sign us an offensive spark or we're done.

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Originally Posted by jah
Demitra was awful last season but that been said I think he'll be a good fit in the overall scheme of things.

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Originally Posted by jah
Yup, I agree with you but I wouldn't call him the 'cancer of the team'...

the point is, ur an idiot, ur complaining about a guy that still contributes to the team by putting pucks in the net. Thats wat hes paid to do and he does it at a bargain price. Next thing u know ull complain about Burrows not scoring enough goals when he only makes like $500,000 and complain about edler if has a bad sophmore year who makes $550,000

Hondaracer 07-12-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 5941000)
^ factor in bert as well

exactly, if bert can step it up and even have another 40p season, the flames are going to be tough as hell to play against

cspec 07-12-2008 03:10 PM

^ on top of that, i think with iginla there, bert may have a rebirth so to speak. iginla commands a lot of respect around the league, and maybe that sort of confidence will help bert out

ChaKo 07-12-2008 03:53 PM

i still don't see how people can think sundin is past his prime. the man has been consistently putting up points, i think at over a ppga for the last couple years and has played 70 or more games for as long as i can remember. he didn't just score a few goals last season, he carried toronto on his back for the better half of his career and that's what we need him for here. and he's not asking for that type of money, wasn't it just our desperate offer?

6thGear. 07-12-2008 04:03 PM

sundin hasn't played with a skilled player since mogilny and yet he still has managed to put up PPG with a bunch of lesser players

Harvey Specter 07-12-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 5941001)
No im not the typical Canuck fan. Cause the typical Canuck fan whines and bitches and makes their own dumb opinions about the team. Someone that never looks at the bright side and always has something negative to say. Like u


the point is, ur an idiot, ur complaining about a guy that still contributes to the team by putting pucks in the net. Thats wat hes paid to do and he does it at a bargain price. Next thing u know ull complain about Burrows not scoring enough goals when he only makes like $500,000 and complain about edler if has a bad sophmore year who makes $550,000

Really mature and you must have no life whatsoever to go back and quote my posts. You're ranting about so called "typical" Canucks fans and shit but what do you call yourself? You sound like a little whiny bitch who gets offended with opinions that aren't positive. Grow the hell up buddy.


And just to make it clear AGAIN, I have a problem with Pyatt not using his size. He's our biggest forward and he could make a bigger impact if he used his size a little more often.

Harvey Specter 07-12-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 5940958)
we'll win the division.
both calgary and minni got shittier up front.
as for edmonton and colorado their goalies lick.
if we get sundin i think we can make 2nd in the conference to detroit :D

I could see the Oilers at the top of the NW because they're deadly offensively. Goaltending is a problem but you just don't know what goalie might get hot next season.

Hondaracer 07-12-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jah (Post 5941169)
And just to make it clear AGAIN, I have a problem with Pyatt not using his size. He's our biggest forward and he could make a bigger impact if he used his size a little more often.

Pyatt's never going to use the body, he plays soft and i really dont see his game evolve past this point, he is too bad of a skater.

asahai69 07-12-2008 09:25 PM

everyone has a right to complain about a team that makes u pay about 100 bucks a ticket then dosent even make the fukin playoffs.

Hondaracer 07-12-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by asahai69 (Post 5941379)
everyone has a right to complain about a team that makes u pay about 100 bucks a ticket then dosent even make the fukin playoffs.

meh, i find that argument to be irrelevent, or the one people who cant afford to go to the games use. [not saying u cant]

1337 07-12-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 5941396)
meh, i find that argument to be irrelevent, or the one people who cant afford to go to the games use. [not saying u cant]

It's not even the paying $100 per ticket, but the salaries these players make which should allow fans to criticize them and put them under the spotlight when things aren't going the way the fans know what the team is capable of.
If every fan was to just keep quiet despite the team playing poorly, then they'll continue to play poorly as noone has come out to saying anything. Feedback leads to improvement, but I guess some of the ways fans express themselves can be pretty harsh. However, once again, if you're making 6 million bucks a season (compare this to 100 g's doctors make to save lifes), then you better be able to handle all the criticisms from the fans.

[ jay ] 07-12-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jah (Post 5941189)
I could see the Oilers at the top of the NW because they're deadly offensively. Goaltending is a problem but you just don't know what goalie might get hot next season.

Um, don't they still have both Garon AND Roloson?

Seamo 07-12-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337 (Post 5941404)
It's not even the paying $100 per ticket, but the salaries these players make which should allow fans to criticize them and put them under the spotlight when things aren't going the way the fans know what the team is capable of.
If every fan was to just keep quiet despite the team playing poorly, then they'll continue to play poorly as noone has come out to saying anything. Feedback leads to improvement, but I guess some of the ways fans express themselves can be pretty harsh. However, once again, if you're making 6 million bucks a season (compare this to 100 g's doctors make to save lifes), then you better be able to handle all the criticisms from the fans.

aka florida LOL


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