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subordinate 02-14-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 7797141)
do you guys squat parallel or atg?

is it okay to do parallel?

Ass to grass baby. Ripped a pair of a shorts and pants due to atg.

Gerbs 02-14-2012 09:07 PM

im actually not sure what im doing atm LOL
i went on bb and saw a few videos of atg and it seems like only an inch below parallel, ill try to get a video tomorrow at the gym

hal0g0dv2 02-14-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PK6o4* (Post 7797137)
dirty bulked 15lbs too fast couple months ago and got kinda chubs
weight didnt change but starting to see outline of bottom abs and got a more vascular pump then usual today doing chest n tris (':

@skinny, I.F is useful for people who want to get from lean (10%) to ripped (around 6%) correct? would taking creatine not make you look as ripped or does it depend on the person and their water retention?
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Creatine is fine
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Excelsis 02-14-2012 09:08 PM

gerbs you can do parallel but you'll put a lot more strain on your knees and they're going to feel like hit when you go heavy

just stretch your abductors more and you'll be able to do it in a while, we're meant to squat a2g
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RRxtar 02-14-2012 09:09 PM

when you shart and figure out why we call them squarts, thats when you know you're going atg.

Gerbs 02-14-2012 09:11 PM

also, when you go on creatine then you go off of it, how much weight will you lose? (a range)

RRxtar 02-14-2012 09:18 PM

if i might gain 1lb in 4 months without creatine...

on creatine i would gain maybe 5lbs of bodyweight in 3 months, and then lose 3lbs in 1 month being off it. meaning id gain 2lbs of lean muscle in 4 months. at most

LEAN muscle. not body weight.


when you get passed the noob gains for the first year or 2, you simply dont make huge lean muscle gains anymore.


and creatine isnt to make you gain weight. its to allow your muscles to lift a little heavier (maybe 10%) for a while. and hopefully by feeding them with FOOD, and lifting heavier, you maybe put a little bit more muscle on.


creatine, beta alanine, etc, are not magic get bigger powders. they are simply a tool to help guys who have already made good gains continue making little gains.

hal0g0dv2 02-14-2012 09:23 PM

dont see a video :troll:

SkinnyPupp 02-14-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK6o4* (Post 7797137)
dirty bulked 15lbs too fast couple months ago and got kinda chubs
weight didnt change but starting to see outline of bottom abs and got a more vascular pump then usual today doing chest n tris (':

@skinny, I.F is useful for people who want to get from lean (10%) to ripped (around 6%) correct? would taking creatine not make you look as ripped or does it depend on the person and their water retention?
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IF can be adjusted for any goal. Especially useful for no goal at all.
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SkinnyPupp 02-14-2012 09:36 PM

IMO a2g is more of an ego thing than anything else. Once you are just below parallel, you have recruited all the muscles you need for squatting, unless you are super flexible.
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red_sir 02-14-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 7797141)
do you guys squat parallel or atg?

is it okay to do parallel?

Squat as deep as you can without excessive hip tuck / lumbar flexion. In my case that's slightly past parallel.

Not everyone has the mobility to squat ATG.
The Truth About Deep Squatting | Kevin Neeld Hockey Training and Athletic Development

Benefit6o4 02-14-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 7797141)
do you guys squat parallel or atg?

is it okay to do parallel?

ATG is really good for working the most muscles in your legs but a higher risk of injury in your knee's if you fuck up the form/go too heavy.


Been debating to get cell-tech or not. But since its Valentines day Priced matched this baby plus 20%off

https://www.svncanada.com/product/10...-series-6.6lbs

It says to load 4 scoops daily for 5 days,(20g Creatine Mono) Would it still work if i loaded 20g Creatine Mono for 5 days then after loading is done, i go back to cell-tech?

strykn 02-14-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hal0g0dv2 (Post 7797172)
dont see a video :troll:

looks like gonna have to wait till tomorrow lol 16 year old who filmed it doesnt even have a phone -__-

truth 02-14-2012 10:04 PM

second week starting off with incline db presses instead of flat bench and it feels so much more satisfying :sweetjesus:

hal0g0dv2 02-14-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Benefit6o4 (Post 7797199)
ATG is really good for working the most muscles in your legs but a higher risk of injury in your knee's if you fuck up the form/go too heavy.


Been debating to get cell-tech or not. But since its Valentines day Priced matched this baby plus 20%off

https://www.svncanada.com/product/10...-series-6.6lbs

It says to load 4 scoops daily for 5 days,(20g Creatine Mono) Would it still work if i loaded 20g Creatine Mono for 5 days then after loading is done, i go back to cell-tech?

watch out that stuff is one stage below roids

jimzilla 02-14-2012 10:08 PM

Lol wut?
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Stealthy 02-14-2012 10:18 PM

http://i42.tinypic.com/xeft4h.png

Fuck I hate these kind of people

subordinate 02-14-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7797187)
IMO a2g is more of an ego thing than anything else. Once you are just below parallel, you have recruited all the muscles you need for squatting, unless you are super flexible.
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Interesting.Back to researching again. I got to admit, I fell into the school of thought that atg recruited more muscles as a result of the range of motion.
But it's always good to hear other opinions, and do further Due Diligence

Stealthy 02-14-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by subordinate (Post 7797242)
Interesting.Back to researching again. I got to admit, I fell into the school of thought that atg recruited more muscles as a result of the range of motion.
But it's always good to hear other opinions, and do further Due Diligence

As long as you're not bouncing at the low negative of the squat ATG or past parallel is fine. I do ATG because of what you said, the range of motion increases and I feel a better burn in the quads.

PK6o4* 02-14-2012 10:46 PM

@hal0 thanks

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7797186)
IF can be adjusted for any goal. Especially useful for no goal at all.
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ahh i c thanks, gonna look into it i saved a couple links u talked about i.f before
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kevin7352 02-14-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthy (Post 7797256)
As long as you're not bouncing at the low negative of the squat ATG or past parallel is fine. I do ATG because of what you said, the range of motion increases and I feel a better burn in the quads.

i say if you are physically able to and are not training for anything specific then squat a2g, you have nothing to lose.
also you either go down and up without a bounce at all, or go down and bounce right back up like dropping a basketball. don't go down then bounce around down there then get up afterwards

ShadowBun 02-14-2012 11:22 PM

when do you guys take your multi vits?

also, assault before or during workout? and if you take assault, creatine afterwards right? not before.

Fcukedd 02-14-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 7797141)
do you guys squat parallel or atg?

is it okay to do parallel?

Like some have said, not everyone can properly squat ATG.
I go as low as before my tailbone tucks in.

BrRsn 02-15-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowBun (Post 7797307)
when do you guys take your multi vits?

also, assault before or during workout? and if you take assault, creatine afterwards right? not before.

Assault will hit you pretty quick, take it 10-15 mins before youre gonna get at the gym, maybe drink it during the car ride to the gym. Definitely do not need to take it intra-workout as its effects linger for quite some time.

I usually don't count any creatine from PWO's .. just take creatine at the same time, every day, in the same way. Your body loves regularity, so let it have it. Try getting some green tea and dissolving creatine in there, what I've been doing (gets rid of grittiness + probably makes it more bio-available).

SkinnyPupp 02-15-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by subordinate (Post 7797242)
Interesting.Back to researching again. I got to admit, I fell into the school of thought that atg recruited more muscles as a result of the range of motion.
But it's always good to hear other opinions, and do further Due Diligence

Yeah lately I have been basing everything I think about squats on what Rippetoe says. I understood it decently before, the biggest difference he made for me was switching to low bar, which immediately made a HUGE difference for me.


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