[Jmac]

It was basically a white out the first half of my drive this morning. It was a struggle to see at more than 40 km/h. Then it cleared up and turned to rain for the second half.

[Armind]

MAKE IT STAHP!!

:QQ:


:lawl:

[smoothie.]

snow tires make an unbelievable difference. However ive never owned a set in the 15+ years ive been driving and have never got stuck or had an accident. If your going to drive with all seasons you just need to know they have good tread or youll be fucked

just seems like a no-brainer to have them on incase you ever get caught by an area of deep snow or lots of ice.

even when it doesn't snow the black ice will catch people off guard.

[jeedee]

fuck those people that:

- drive in the cyclist lane then signal to cut in at the last second
- drive in the right turn only lane then signal to cut in at the last second

:rukidding:

There's a reason why there's a line. We're all fucking late. my usual 20 min commute turned to 2 hours and 20 mins :heckno:

[Mr.HappySilp]

Hai not why transit was so bad during rush hour. I left around 6am. Caught the #123 about 10mins late got to skytrain and everything is fine. Not sure how/why the bus would get delay after.

[Bouncing Bettys]

I threw my studded winters(car and tires originally from the interior) on yesterday only for the snow to not stick to the roads in Aldergrove/Langley.

[thumper]

At YVR, waiting to leave for LA [emoji14]

sonofab.... lend me your subaru dammit. you aren't using it :lol

[ilovebacon]

Snow moarrrr!

[dboy]

It's supposed to be sunny the next 2 days so this will all be over soon...

https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-74_metric_e.html

*checks Thursday weather*

fuck

[thumper]

forget thursday... look at the forecast for sunday.

if today is any indication, i have my doubts the cities will clean it up before the morning commute for monday :mad:

[Gh0stRider]

sonofab.... lend me your subaru dammit. you aren't using it :lol

:awwyeah: gtfo

[SumAznGuy]

It's supposed to be sunny the next 2 days so this will all be over soon...

https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-81_metric_e.html

*checks Thursday weather*

fuck

Um, at night it is supposed to get to -3C.
I was out pokemoning last night, and there was ice everywhere.
Come tomorrow, it may be worse.

forget thursday... look at the forecast for sunday.

if today is any indication, i have my doubts the cities will clean it up before the morning commute for monday :mad:

Yup. Be safe.
If you need it, I have my tow straps in my truck.

My new company is "Pull out towing" Women get rescued for free. SeemsGood

[thumper]

AM730Traffic Retweeted
Clark Lundeen ‏@bassfreq 1h1 hour ago
Eastbound in Kerrisdale - two buses stuck. The bus says it all #sorry @am730traffic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy7XxDvW8AAulyk.jpg

[6o4__boi]

tomorrow's gonna be a worse day

Idiots will head out and think "yeah, no snow and roads are clear! I can drive as fast as I fucking want."
then hit a patch of black ice and commute is fucked for everyone.

[whitev70r]

Hate to be scheduled for morning shift at Costco tires (Fountain, Kal, etc.) this morning!

[hi-revs]

Bought a set of michelin as3+ for my sti this summer and have been waiting for snow to try them out in.
Based on what little snow we had today, I live in coquotlam btw, they have been great. Definitely not compared to my snow tires, but for around town and less than half feet of non packed snow, they're awesome. Great stopping traction as well.

[blkgsr]

took my accord, new continental procontracts on it, into work this morning...tires actually did pretty well


still wish i had taken my 4runner with brand new toyo OC AT2's on it lol. driving up to whistler friday night should be fun

[CorneringArtist]

What my commute felt like this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4elm4rU_pwU

[StaxBundlez]

http://s3.foxmovies.com/foxmovies/production/films/96/images/gallery/revenant-gallery-20-gallery-image.jpg

Me by the time I got into work today.

[hotjoint]

So glad I'm not working today. Bus service is a mess everywhere and I would just end up being pulled over on the road drinking a nice coffee while getting paid to watch the chaos LOL

[Gumby]

Do winter tires make that big of a difference? In the Lower Mainland I've never ran anything but all seasons and never had a problem with front wheel drives and or any of my trucks or my AWD SUV.

I mean back in the early 90's when I was in highschool I'd drive my 5.0L mustang on all seasons and still get around, a little slipping and sliding but manageable even as a 17 and 18 year old kid.
This year I finally got winter tires for a 11 year old SUV - so I hope its worth the investment! I have young kids, so you can't put a price tag on their safety.

In the event of an accident, there's always the possibility that ICBC won't cover you if they decide that the lack of winter tires was a contributing factor...

[thumper]

they are reporting on the radio that there are ice bombs happening again on the pt. mann but treo claims it's just slush :confused:

... this is slush?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8Y5-DUoAAm5ZN.jpg

[Gumby]

My new company is "Pull out towing" Women get rescued for free. SeemsGood
Wait, what are you pulling out? :ifyouknow:

[SumAznGuy]

Started snowing again around Chinatown.

[Armind]

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/no.gif

[6o4__boi]

http://s3.foxmovies.com/foxmovies/production/films/96/images/gallery/revenant-gallery-20-gallery-image.jpg

Me by the time I got into work today.

After i rounded the busiest stretch of my commute 45 minutes behind schedule

http://i.giphy.com/xT8qBeEqnpdMbIbtVS.gif



fuck it's coming down pretty hard outside right now
:fuuuuu:

[7seven]

Driving in this morning at 6am from Burnaby to Vancouver wasn't bad, just traffic was slow with some ppl going well below the speed limit in both lanes :facepalm: if you're going to only go 30-40, stick to the right lane.

[Presto]

I think I'm gonna drop off my car at Kal-tire @ the mall, right when they open in the morning. If it takes a while, at least there's a lot of options to kill time.

[jjson]

Started sticking again here in south burnaby... fuckkkk....

[thumper]

meanwhile in montreal....

Watch buses, trucks and a police car collide in snowy Montreal | CTV News (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/watch-buses-trucks-and-a-police-car-collide-in-snowy-montreal-1.3190268)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BhhsEuYXZQ

[6o4__boi]

holy shit...the pick up driver must've been shitting bricks when he saw that second bus coming in behind him

[stewie]

Driving in this morning at 6am from Burnaby to Vancouver wasn't bad, just traffic was slow with some ppl going well below the speed limit in both lanes :facepalm: if you're going to only go 30-40, stick to the right lane.

I was stuck on Canada way behind dumbasses driving 25kmph in the middle of both lanes. Was no way to get around them.... Once I got around a bend there were cars up on the sidewalk.

So far today 2 fire hydrants have been hit.... Can't wait to see what the rest of my day will be like!

[thumper]

holy shit...the pick up driver must've been shitting bricks when he saw that second bus coming in behind him

what about the cop? all he saw was snowplow...

[AzNightmare]

I got quite lucky. Headed to work around 7am. A bunch of buses were stuck taking up one lane. Maybe a car driving excessively slow in the only remaining lane left, but there was always a lane to safely weave through.

Encountered some guys that were driving pretty quick (relatively) so it was not bad. Got to work maybe only 10 mins later than usual.

[SkunkWorks]

Waited at the bus stop this morning for 3 buses that never showed. Said fuck it and told the office I'll work from home. Now I'm looking outside with the Clarkson smug face - solid call. It's coming down hard and sticking.

[Akinari]

When your car has no traction or stability control, and has Falken Ziex 512s

Let's just say, I have zero traction unless I'm feathering the throttle :lawl: did some reverse donuts in an empty parking lot though

Staying home :alonehappy:

[quasi]

One of our site guys took 4 hours to get to work, Abbotsford to Kitsilano I'm assuming he left around 5am.

[whitev70r]

Let's all call it a day and go home.

Anyone up for football? Replay Ottawa and Edmonton CFL game?

[thumper]

anyone here in the north burnaby area? i'm wondering if it's still snowing and if i should leave work early because it's still dumping here in surrey :(

[ShanghaiKid]

Live and work in North burnaby. Can confirm still shit storming outside

[unit]

When your car has no traction or stability control, and has Falken Ziex 512s

Let's just say, I have zero traction unless I'm feathering the throttle :lawl: did some reverse donuts in an empty parking lot though

Staying home :alonehappy:

had those tires many years ago. worst snow performance ever... may as well be on slicks.

[thumper]

Live and work in North burnaby. Can confirm still shit storming outside

how about the roads... are the city crews still on break? :(

[TopsyCrett]

First winter having an awd beater ! The drive from Coquitlam to Langley (KPU) was fine for me this morning. I'm on a set of General Grabber AT that are at roughly 20%.Should've beat the rush... need tires asap.

[6o4__boi]

how about the roads... are the city crews still on break? :(

The main roads look ok, saw a couple of city trucks plowing earlier today

[thumper]

someone on news1130 just posted this... note the timestamp on the dash clock. this is what treo calls "slush" falling from the pt. mann bridge:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8Y5-DUoAAm5ZN.jpg


it's also happening on the alex fraser bridge as well... someone here in the office said patullo is a mess. i'm trapped.

[Inaii]

Holy shit... Would ICBC cover that or would you have to go after the city?

[stewie]

how about the roads... are the city crews still on break? :(



We don't take breaks ;)
Our roads guys have been working non stop

[thumper]

We don't take breaks ;)
Our roads guys have been working non stop

i wish you were around capitol hill at 5am today... or just all of hastings in north bby in general :(

Holy shit... Would ICBC cover that or would you have to go after the city?

this is from 2013:

http://www.news1130.com/2013/08/28/port-mann-ice-bombs-has-cost-icbc-400000-so-far/

[6o4__boi]

environment Canada high as fuck lifting the snowfall warning so early.

Almost whiteout condition by BCIT in Burnaby.
Thick snow is falling pretty hard.

edit: looks like it was reissued as of 12:49 today

[EmperorIS]

UBC seems clear for now. Was going ape shit around early noon

[whitev70r]

Go home everyone.

[Hondaracer]

East van still coming down hard lol

[Adorkami]

In north burnaby right now and it is coming down really heavy. Shoveled neighbors sidewalk and mine about an hour ago and you can barely tell the difference compared to if i didn't do it.

[6o4__boi]

i hope your neighbor was hot

[Adorkami]

A couple in their 80s... if that's your thing sure...

[CorneringArtist]

Richmond is on and off and can't decide :yuno:

[Bouncing Bettys]

Langley is still getting rain/wet snow. FedEx bumped their pick up cut off time an hour because of the weather. Half a days worth of AOG packages aren't going until tomorrow. I was dealing with them all day for other stuff and not one mention of an early cutt off.

[racerman88]

East Richmond (Hamilton) by the Queensborough area has been snowing non-stop

[6o4__boi]

starting to taper off a bit in Burnaby
still steady but the flakes aren't as thick

:heckno:

not looking forward to the drive home

[Inaii]

It's been snowing steadily all day in the Joyce-Collingwood area. And from what I hear Snake Hill in Coquitlam (down to Pomo) is closed and Mariner is fucked.

[Presto]

Raining in Langley, now.
Roads are clear.

[thumper]

starting to taper off a bit in Burnaby
still steady but the flakes aren't as thick

:heckno:

not looking forward to the drive home

reading online that there is a big car fire on hastings and holdom and traffic either single lane or not getting through at all... some guy was gunning it hard trying to get up the hill and the engine went boom?

meanwhile this is my view in surrey...

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15317993_10154746811918134_5104268560126350822_n.j pg?oh=64df8bbce008fd094bad0e9904abd645&oe=58BF40CB

i want to go home :cry:

[6o4__boi]

saw an alert about it the fire at Holdom.

Still Creek going to the Highway already looks pretty heavy. Fml.

[GS8]

You guys are all wimps

I'll be the guy in the Rogue that saves all your asses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BcdfMyf5s



Nah, I'd get stuck leaving the dealer lot thanks to shitty AS tires

:lawl:

[6o4__boi]

Kensington overpass over highway 1 has been closed due to conditions

the chaos begins

[CorneringArtist]

the chaos begins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5imBFAXDQ6o

edit: Sun is out in Richmond.

[Akinari]

The snow was coming down nonstop for a few hours in the White Rock/South Surrey earlier, seems like none of the city crews weren't able to keep up. Oh seems like the snow's started again as I'm typing.

Was the first car at a red light on a bit of an incline in front of a high school just as school ended, had extreme difficulty finding grip.

All the kids started looking at me as my car was revving up and down thinking dis ricer :lawl:

[whitev70r]

see break in the clouds, south of Fraser river, Richmond area.

[Bouncing Bettys]

You guys are all wimps

I'll be the guy in the Rogue that saves all your asses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BcdfMyf5s



Nah, I'd get stuck leaving the dealer lot thanks to shitty AS tires

:lawl:
Would prefer if the girl from the Star Wars Rogue One Nissan Rogue ad came to "save me"

[stewie]

i wish you were around capitol hill at 5am today... or just all of hastings in north bby in general :(



this is from 2013:

Port Mann 'ice bombs' have cost ICBC $400,000 so far - NEWS 1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2013/08/28/port-mann-ice-bombs-has-cost-icbc-400000-so-far/)

There was a broken watermain that turned everywhere into a skating rink up there :p we can only do so much so fast :)

[ImportPsycho]

This morning after waiting 1hour for a bus out of UBC, gave up and took my car to work. I saw students walking to ubc on 16th lol

[DragonChi]

I'm suprised they didn't shutdown the school.

Saw 4 accidents today to the office. Saw like 5-6 buses stuck up hills getting to site.

Just checked the forecast, supposed to snow more on Thursday, Friday. I'm sure the city is going to implode.

[bluejays]

There was a broken watermain that turned everywhere into a skating rink up there :p we can only do so much so fast :)

Do you work for the city of Burnaby as well?which department? :D

[7seven]

the dumbest thing today I saw driving into the office downtown was freaking golf cart sized snow plows and city crew working to clear snow from the bike lanes on Dunsmuir, but i didn't see one single truck or worker working on the streets or sidewalks. Seriously who is going to even bike in a snow storm, Moonbeam needs a kick in the head.

[subordinate]

the dumbest thing today I saw driving into the office downtown was freaking golf cart sized snow plows and city crew working to clear snow from the bike lanes on Dunsmuir, but i didn't see one single truck or worker working on the streets or sidewalks. Seriously who is going to even bike in a snow storm, Moonbeam needs a kick in the head.

agreed, where the eff is the priority.

Furthermore, city crews knew about the snowfall, yet roads were shit out there. Wtf. Especially Burnaby.

[Presto]

agreed,

Crews knew about the snowfall, yet roads were shit out there. Wtf.

They rolled the dice, like I did. Too bad they lost, and I won. ;)

[kkthind]

A couple in their 80s... if that's your thing sure...

Nothing gets my blood pumping like ladies in their 80s :troll:

[coneZONE]

I LOVE THE SNOW. Until I have to go to work :(

Ugh. The worst thing so far are those entitled bitches who come in at noon on the first snow, without an appointment, start crying because you won't let them jump to the front of the walk-in queue, then complain to the GM that they want their winter tires done yesterday...
So... it looks like we need an adult preschool to teach people to wait for their turn? :lawl:

[boibuddha]

There were a couple of cars with smashed windshields on HWY 91, I can only assume from falling ice. Careful of there, guys

[- kT]

Route to work is from Richmond to Oak and 25th area via Arthur Lang. Traveling around Richmond, the roads didn't look like they were salted/plowed, but there wasn't that much snow. Seen the usual BMW SUV's going 20-30km/h faster than everyone else and Corolla's driving 20-30km/h slower than everyone else.

The ramp from Marine Drive onto Oak street was completely blocked due to buses.
Went north up Cambie instead, traveling behind a Cadillac that was going really slow up the hill and eventually pulled to the side. Lots of pick up trucks stopped on the side, blocking 1 lane on either side. On the south side, various cars spun out or stopped blocking the lane going down Cambie.

Made it to work on time, only had to leave 15mins early.
Blizzak WS80's performed great, as usual.

i had to go through this too. what a nightmare.. not sure how you made it on time, my 25-30 minute commute turned to 1.5 hours. made it fine in my EG with all seasons, but only risked it cause my snowies were at work. the amount of people who just have no clue how to drive in snow + were on all seasons was just atrocious though. i almost got rear ended by the same idiot in an old mazda b2000 3 times. moved out of his lane and made some distance, and about an hour or so after getting in, saw it go by on the back of a tow truck, front bumper all caved in and grille gone. smfh

on a brighter note, i think i love this EG. only picked it up on saturday, but it's already proven it's worth and then some. the ride home on snowies felt no different than a dry day as far as grip and stability. first year i've actually been properly equipped with a proper winter ready beater, and it's a pretty sweet feel :D

my commute home also actually took less time than normal (25-30 minutes down to 20).. not sure how that happened. i guess everybody who was causing the traffic snarls for the morning commute had already wiped out and therefore weren't on the road to mess things up a second time :lawl:

[thumper]

i left work from surrey at 3:30pm.

i just got home now at 7pm.

Big fat star to the city of new west who actually plowed the streets.

And a big raspberry for Burnaby. You should have seen Canada Way. Cars abandoned all over the place. There were two articulated transit buses stacked up against each other at the intersection of kensington and hastings.

I thought if I could follow the bus routes on the side streets I might have some luck getting home.... nope.

FML :cry:

[subordinate]

i left work from surrey at 3:30pm.

i just got home now at 7pm.

Big fat star to the city of new west who actually plowed the streets.

And a big raspberry for Burnaby. You should have seen Canada Way. Cars abandoned all over the place. There were two articulated transit buses stacked up against each other at the intersection of kensington and hastings.

I thought if I could follow the bus routes on the side streets I might have some luck getting home.... nope.

FML :cry:

Jesus..I was off at 3 from Surrey, got home in East Van at 5. Granted, I figured the sensible thing was to take kingsway instead of Canada way (Steep hill, figured lots of sliding and accidents) or Brunette/Columbia (Backed semi truckers)

Mentally drained from the commute.... and sliding..two snow tires on rear...should have bought another two (Fwd car)...:yuno:

[JSALES]

Retards on the road when I was driving to school earlier this afternoon, I get it's snowing but you don't need to be driving 30 km/h or maybe I just think I'm invincible driving in the snow

[Tapioca]

To play Devil's advocate, do you think it's a good idea for a city to allocate tens of millions of dollars in its annual budget for something that has happened fewer and fewer times? Keep in mind that it has not snowed in nearly 2 years in most areas of Metro Vancouver. These types of storms will probably be a thing of the past in 10-20 years due to climate change.

People bitch and complain about city crews being understaffed and being caught off-guard. Most cities have limited resources, so snow removal gets put to the bottom of the list of expenditures.

The region shuts down for a couple of days then all is back to normal. The amount of lost productivity during a snowstorm probably doesn't add up to how much it would cost each city to procure and maintain sufficient snow removal equipment. It's a cold calculation, but you can see why municipal governments make it.

With that said, I had no problems getting up the mountain today in my set of General Altimax Arctic tires.

[Hondaracer]

if the money was actually "Saved" and not squandered on other things i'd feel better about agreeing lol..

Highway from Vancouver Cassiar to Gaglardi was actually pretty good at 5:30, about the same amount of time as a normal day..

however, it already felt as though there was a thin layer of ice even in the fast lane.. I wasnt really slipping anywhere until i got on the highway and fairly quickly i noticed my back end slipping and a bit of sliding when braking

might be a scary night/morning

[thumper]

To play Devil's advocate, do you think it's a good idea for a city to allocate tens of millions of dollars in its annual budget for something that has happened fewer and fewer times? Keep in mind that it has not snowed in nearly 2 years in most areas of Metro Vancouver. These types of storms will probably be a thing of the past in 10-20 years due to climate change.

People bitch and complain about city crews being understaffed and being caught off-guard. Most cities have limited resources, so snow removal gets put to the bottom of the list of expenditures.

The region shuts down for a couple of days then all is back to normal. The amount of lost productivity during a snowstorm probably doesn't add up to how much it would cost each city to procure and maintain sufficient snow removal equipment. It's a cold calculation, but you can see why municipal governments make it.

With that said, I had no problems getting up the mountain today in my set of General Altimax Arctic tires.

let's wait and see how it turns out after the big freeze tomorrow... and the next snowfall scheduled for thursday... and this sunday too. and the huge amount of icbc claims from just today alone.

[ZN6]

Which one's harder to navigate through? A zombie apocalypse? Or first snowfall in metro Vancouver?

I take zombie apocalypse over snowfall any day.

[Tapioca]

let's wait and see how it turns out after the big freeze tomorrow... and the next snowfall scheduled for thursday... and this sunday too. and the huge amount of icbc claims from just today alone.

Municipal governments and ICBC are separate organizations with different mandates.

If I were the chair of the Union of BC Municipalities, I would lobby Victoria to make winter tires mandatory on all privately-owned vehicles between the months of December and February.

[Jmac]

10-15 cm expected for my area tonight. Looks like I'll be leaving early again tomorrow.

[Akinari]

the dumbest thing today I saw driving into the office downtown was freaking golf cart sized snow plows and city crew working to clear snow from the bike lanes on Dunsmuir, but i didn't see one single truck or worker working on the streets or sidewalks. Seriously who is going to even bike in a snow storm, Moonbeam needs a kick in the head.

Which one's harder to navigate through? A zombie apocalypse? Or first snowfall in metro Vancouver?

I take zombie apocalypse over snowfall any day.
Well I sure hope the zombie apocalypse never comes while it's snowing in Vancouver otherwise...

:badpokerface:

[thumper]

Municipal governments and ICBC are separate organizations with different mandates.

If I were the chair of the Union of BC Municipalities, I would lobby Victoria to make winter tires mandatory on all privately-owned vehicles between the months of December and February.

quebec did that back in 2014...

Winter tires are mandatory in Quebec starting tomorrow - Montreal - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/winter-tires-are-mandatory-in-quebec-starting-tomorrow-1.2872781)

... one can only hope it could work here. but then i'm also assuming most drivers outside of the gvrd have the common sense to use winter tires because they have more consistent snowfall than here?

[Gumby]

I'm suprised they didn't shutdown the school.
In the past 15+ years of attending/working at UBC, they've shut down ONCE. And only because the power station stopped working.

Furthermore, city crews knew about the snowfall, yet roads were shit out there. Wtf. Especially Burnaby.
In their defense, my coworker woke up repeatedly, eagerly waiting for the snow, but she said it didn't start coming down until 5am or so. By then the city crews were screwed. It came down too fast for them to plow & salt in time for the morning rush. If it snowed throughout the night, they would have time to work through the night.

[syee]

To play Devil's advocate, do you think it's a good idea for a city to allocate tens of millions of dollars in its annual budget for something that has happened fewer and fewer times? Keep in mind that it has not snowed in nearly 2 years in most areas of Metro Vancouver. These types of storms will probably be a thing of the past in 10-20 years due to climate change.

People bitch and complain about city crews being understaffed and being caught off-guard. Most cities have limited resources, so snow removal gets put to the bottom of the list of expenditures.

The region shuts down for a couple of days then all is back to normal. The amount of lost productivity during a snowstorm probably doesn't add up to how much it would cost each city to procure and maintain sufficient snow removal equipment. It's a cold calculation, but you can see why municipal governments make it.

With that said, I had no problems getting up the mountain today in my set of General Altimax Arctic tires.

Completely agree with you. It's silly to allocate a bunch of money to buy and maintain equipment for what amounts to at most a week in a year of snow. There's tons of other projects that our tax dollars could go to.

It's funny how the people that are complaining that the city should allocate more money to plows are probably the ones that aren't prepared with winter tires. They're the "fuck winter tires - I'm not spending $700 for one week of snow". You don't want to spend $700 for one week of snow. The city doesn't want to spend $7 million on a fleet of snow plows.

My personal opinion - do what you can to cover yourself for these scenarios. Don't rely on someone else (i.e. the city) to help you out when there's a few inches of snow outside.

[danned]

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1430651775510302896.jpg

[TOPEC]

got to try out some Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 on the work vehicle, pretty surprised by its performance. i think its an all weather tire and not a true winte, so if u guys r too lazy to swap between winter/summer tire this is a pretty good choice in between. was driving all around burnaby/new west and didnt get stuck once.

[coneZONE]

Just remembered my trip to Beijing last year... it happened to start snowing when we were there for that week. And I was surprised since you would expect it to snow regularly there.
1) winter tires do not exist there. Asked my relatives why ppl didn't have winter tires and they were like "What are winter tires?"
2) snowploughs also do not exist. THEY WERE USING STREET CLEANING TRUCKS TO TRY TO BRUSH AWAY THE SNOW. I think I saw salt trucks. At each highway entrance toll booth, the attendant would physically shovel salt onto the road.
3) since they had no snowploughs, they had to shut down every main highway/freeway and everyone was directed to side streets

I think we have it considerably good here haha

[Jmac]

To play Devil's advocate, do you think it's a good idea for a city to allocate tens of millions of dollars in its annual budget for something that has happened fewer and fewer times? Keep in mind that it has not snowed in nearly 2 years in most areas of Metro Vancouver. These types of storms will probably be a thing of the past in 10-20 years due to climate change.

People bitch and complain about city crews being understaffed and being caught off-guard. Most cities have limited resources, so snow removal gets put to the bottom of the list of expenditures.

The region shuts down for a couple of days then all is back to normal. The amount of lost productivity during a snowstorm probably doesn't add up to how much it would cost each city to procure and maintain sufficient snow removal equipment. It's a cold calculation, but you can see why municipal governments make it.

With that said, I had no problems getting up the mountain today in my set of General Altimax Arctic tires.
Last 2 winters were intense El Ninos, this year is a weak La Nina (which hasn't even started yet; expected to officially start in February). Huge difference between the two.

It's just sheer negligence to ignore readily-available climate science while hiding behind climate change as a reason to cut the budget.

[twitchyzero]

in my short 20 years living here I only recall maybe twice where snow/ice lasted more than a week out of the year within city limits.

makes no sense for an ample amount of plows to sit idle...unless it's considered emergency I can understand why we're always underprepared.

there's even city workers here chiming in they're working non-stop

move to somewhere that rarely sees rain. Same shit happens....city comes to a crawl. Vancouverites will just laugh at that like how the rest of Canada laughs at Vancouver/Victoria

[Ch28]

It's suppose to be 3 degrees and sunny tomorrow, so prepare yourselves for some slick roads and do the sensible thing and drive carefully.

[BrokenEuro]

got to try out some Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 on the work vehicle, pretty surprised by its performance. i think its an all weather tire and not a true winte, so if u guys r too lazy to swap between winter/summer tire this is a pretty good choice in between. was driving all around burnaby/new west and didnt get stuck once.

The WRG3 is the all weather tire carried by Nokian. The Hakkapeliitta R2 is a dedicated winter tire which is on par with the X-ice3 in terms of performance ratings.

[TopsyCrett]

Plows working round the clock right now in Coquitlam - 2am, they are scraping a lot of ice that froze over the past few hours.

[thumper]

where do you guys buy nokians? i only know of kal tire, and their prices are expensive compared to what i see in the USA... are there any other places on this side of the border that carry them?

At some point last night a plow only made a single pass down the middle of the road and created walls of snow on either side because they hadn't done anything since last morning. You couldn't pull over to the side to let someone else pass and soon enough two cars hit each other and blocked the road. For all I know the cars are stiil out there.

As for today's commute... i had to ask for no pay leave because i don't have enough holiday time to cover it. I'm too scared to take the Port Mann and traffic reports are saying the Pattullo and everything around it is all black ice... It's just not worth it :(

[SumAznGuy]

Nokian's are exclusive to Kal Tire so no one should be able to get them here.
Closest might be Discount tire Direct in Bellingham as I remember seeing that listed on their website last year.

[MG1]

I love the Nokians. One of the best winter tires out there. I've got Michelin Xice on my truck and had no issues yesterday and this morning. People with all season tires are hooped on any kind of hill.

Below freezing, you have to have winter tires. On main roads you could probably get away with it, but side roads, not good.

Your passengers and you are worth more than a set of tires, me thinks.

I'm as frugal as any asian could be, but I don't cheap out when it comes to safety.

[LuHua]

Waiting for my winters to arrive, but some of the newer all seasons are doing surprisingly well (running Falken ZE950s). No issues braking or maneuvering yesterday, had a slow start on some of the slush though, and I live on a hill

[Lomac]

Love my Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8's. My driveway is steeply graded and a full sheet of ice to boot. Haven't had a problem getting in or out of it yet. My R2's a couple years back were good but fared better in snow than in ice.

As MG1 said, don't cheap out on tires. They're literally the only thing keeping you on the road. Tires are one of those things where I'll go out of my way to spend as much money as possible.

[whitev70r]

Bow down to his guy!

Scary winter scooter ride fuels outpouring of generosity (http://www.theprovince.com/scary+winter+scooter+ride+fuels+outpouring+generos ity/12482487/story.html)

[thumper]

there was a dude on a ruckus-type electric scooter bombing across the pattullo yesterday afternoon on the unplowed sidewalk... he was doing pretty good too, unless he did a wipeout after he passed me.

[punkwax]

My hakkapeliitta R2s are awesome all around. Comfortable, little road noise and great in cold weather/snow.

Solid investment.

[320icar]

i run those not so great all weather nokians. only do because my GF had near new ones from an old car of hers, and i snagged new OEM steelies for $50/set. so really i got a set of winter tires for almost free. they run like absolute champs too. though once these burn out i'll definitely upgrade to some 18" snow tires on another spare set of wheels i have. most likely bridgestone blizzak ws-80 as i have loved their performance, and wear nicely too

my street yesterday in the morning. it kept snowing more and more, but now its mostly gone

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5561/30636662073_13fa6f41d9_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NFfUgB)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/NFfUgB) by 320iCar (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30576355@N04/), on Flickr

[MG1]

All weather tires are much better than all season tires. They have the snowflake on mountain logo - they gotta be good.

Anyway, make sure you keep your washer fluid topped up. Good thing I got them on Black Friday sale. 4 jugs for $5. At Rona. Good to -45 §∞¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº where the hell is my degree symbol, lol.


EDIT:

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found it! Not sure if it'll show up properly on non-Mac users, though.

[SumAznGuy]

All weather tires are much better than all season tires. They have the snowflake on mountain logo - they gotta be good.

Anyway, make sure you keep your washer fluid topped up. Good thing I got them on Black Friday sale. 4 jugs for $5. At Rona. Good to -45 §∞¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº where the hell is my degree symbol, lol.


EDIT:

-45˚

found it! Not sure if it'll show up properly on non-Mac users, though.

Thanks for the reminder. I had to use a lot to clean my windows while driving to work this morning. The stuff getting kicked up dries hard and makes it difficult to see through the front windshield.

[fliptuner]

So many idiots dropping sheets of ice/snow off their rooftops.

[Presto]

Went to Kal-Tire right when they opened. They had appointments from the prior night, but said my tires would be installed before noon. Since it was 7:30 when I dropped 'em off, I walked home and slept until they called. The walk back was nice. It was sunny, and I discovered my new glasses were transitions ;).

[yray]

https://youtu.be/fhCBy6qs8uk

10/10

[Liquid_o2]

I'm running on Nokian hakkapeliitta's. Had no issues yesterday or today. I have a bit of a hill on my street, and it was quite icy this morning. No issues going up from a standstill. It's likely my least season on them as the tread is almost down to the snowflake wear indicator.

I used to run WRG2's and they worked very well in wet/slush or snow conditions, but were not very good on ice. Not sure how the WRG3's are on ice. Still better than running an all-season tire.

[thumper]

w/reference to the video above about the collars... that's it??? a chain link they drop from the top? i'm so screwed this thursday because i'm not going relive that 3+hour hell i went through last monday on the pattullo :(


Province investigating damage from Port Mann, Alex Fraser bridge ice bombs - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/province-investigating-damage-from-port-mann-alex-fraser-bridge-ice-bombs-1.3884159)

[snowball]

I left work 30 min early anticipating ice. I arrived.. 30 minutes early, luckily ice wasn't too much of a problem except in my own alley.

I think the snow is partially responsible for keeping out some of the shitty drivers I normally see, I mean the ones that I typically see driving 35-40 in optimal conditions in the left lane are probably too scared to drive right now, thank goodness.

[snowball]

w/reference to the video above about the collars... that's it??? a chain link they drop from the top?[/url]

I'm not sure how a chain will remove the ice from forming underneath the cable = more ice bombs?

[Akinari]

When the weather wasn't even remotely poor outside today and the evening rush hour was still a gongshow, a bunch of idiots driving 75-80 on 99 :seriously::fulloffuck:

[Hondaracer]

when the port man first had the ice bombs they had things that looked like remote control cars which encircled the whole pipe.. now they dropping peices of chain?..

[tegra7]

Another snowfall warning for this Thursday.

[whitev70r]

Fire the engineers who designed Port Mann ... those chain links are so ghetto. Did they hire a 2nd year Engineering student intern to design that? Sorry, no insult to 2nd year Eng students intended ... they can probably do better!! :speechless:

Someone is going to die - ice bomb falls, driver shock, lose control of car, cause a chain reaction ... pile up. This will be worst than the FastCat fiasco.

[MG1]

One thing I want know......... are all transit busses equipped with good snow tires?

I saw a bus stuck on a vary small hill going foward downhill (Pender at Gore) and spinning wheels....... this is foward down a hill. Can you not let it coast? No snow, car, or even a dead rat in front, either. Driver was trying to back up a few times with no luck. Then yesterday, on Commercial, in front of the York Theatre, tandem bus got stuck to the point all passenges had to get off. Southbound was completely blocked and half of the northbound lane. Good thing nobody was parked on the northbound side, so drivers could sneak by. Maybe poor driving skills?

[Inaii]

^I think someone posted a few pages back that their friend (who drives a bus) posted a pic of his summer tires.... so glad I can take the skytrain directly to/from work. My rx7 does not like the snow. Or hills. Or ice. I'm pretty sure it just hates life right now :lol

[tegra7]

Blasts from the past: Canada's worst snowstorms - Canada - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/blasts-from-the-past-canada-s-worst-snowstorms-1.1370387)

2008 was the last huge snow storm we got. Snowed for 4 days straight, literally shut down DT Vancouver.

[TOPEC]

The WRG3 is the all weather tire carried by Nokian. The Hakkapeliitta R2 is a dedicated winter tire which is on par with the X-ice3 in terms of performance ratings.

u r right, i mixed up the R2 and WRG3. double checked today, and they are indeed the all weather WRG3 on the car.

even in today's icy side road conditions, i didnt get stuck or have traction issues unless im giving it a bit too much gas

[MG1]

Blasts from the past: Canada's worst snowstorms - Canada - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/blasts-from-the-past-canada-s-worst-snowstorms-1.1370387)

2008 was the last huge snow storm we got. Snowed for 4 days straight, literally shut down DT Vancouver.

The worst was 1998 for Vancouver at 130cm, as opposed to 109 cm in 2008.

2008 was the worst for eastern Canada.

Snowfall over the Last 25 Years (annual data) for Vancouver (http://vancouver.weatherstats.ca/charts/snow-25years.html)

There might be bigger ones before, but this website only goes back 25 years.


As for Lomac country,

http://www.castanet.net/news/BC/130086/A-78-year-snow-record

While we're on the subject............

http://www.bcmag.ca/Victorias-Big-Snow-Of-1916

46 inches of snow??? Like, WTF?

[m3thods]

I know it wouldn't be the same being an adult, but I would love to have a dumping like we had in 1996. I have such fond memories of that blizzard, as do many of you guys I'm sure.

[twitchyzero]

be careful what you wish for

[teggy604]

Blasts from the past: Canada's worst snowstorms - Canada - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/blasts-from-the-past-canada-s-worst-snowstorms-1.1370387)

2008 was the last huge snow storm we got. Snowed for 4 days straight, literally shut down DT Vancouver.

ah I remember those days. It was awesome. I think that was the only time I got to use chains on the major roads driving around Vancouver. The roads were deserted and only thing on the road were lifted trucks and 4x4 or cars with chains.

[thumper]

be careful what you wish for

he's wishing... and for some reason he is focused on december 15th. someone please stop him?

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/monthly/british-columbia/vancouver

[MG1]

^Looks like no white christmas.......................again!

[SumAznGuy]

One thing I want know......... are all transit busses equipped with good snow tires?

Pretty sure buses do not have snow tires. For sure all the buses that were going up Hastings towards SFU.
The B-line tandams are the worse because it doesn't take much for them to jackknife.

[Soundy]

Fire the engineers who designed Port Mann ... those chain links are so ghetto. Did they hire a 2nd year Engineering student intern to design that? Sorry, no insult to 2nd year Eng students intended ... they can probably do better!! :speechless:

Someone is going to die - ice bomb falls, driver shock, lose control of car, cause a chain reaction ... pile up. This will be worst than the FastCat fiasco.

My understanding is that it was designed to have heated cables, and Kiewit decided they weren't needed and left them out to save money.

Engineers aren't stupid.

Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk

[thumper]

^Looks like no white christmas.......................again!

temperatures aside, the forecast only goes up to the 21st at this point... there is still time?

[thumper]

Pretty sure buses do not have snow tires. For sure all the buses that were going up Hastings towards SFU.
The B-line tandams are the worse because it doesn't take much for them to jackknife.

i remember looking at the tires on the buses parked at the whalley loop and i did not see anything that said they were winter tires?

the last time i could recall transit buses chaining up was back around 1992-1992? i was trying to get from coquitlam to bcit and it took nearly 2 hours. by the time i got there i was 5 minutes into the the lecture i was already late for and bcit announced they were closing :speechless:

[GS8]

I know it wouldn't be the same being an adult, but I would love to have a dumping like we had in 1996. I have such fond memories of that blizzard, as do many of you guys I'm sure.

The year the Nintendo 64 came out!

My God, take me back 20 years...

:QQ:

[StylinRed]

My understanding is that it was designed to have heated cables, and Kiewit decided they weren't needed and left them out to save money.

Engineers aren't stupid.

Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk

Kiewit built some bridges in WA state and elsewhere iirc, the same styled bridges, and they all had the falling ice issue, yet those involved with our bridges here obviously didn't do their due diligence, or cared about it anyway

[Mr.C]

Blasts from the past: Canada's worst snowstorms - Canada - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/blasts-from-the-past-canada-s-worst-snowstorms-1.1370387)

2008 was the last huge snow storm we got. Snowed for 4 days straight, literally shut down DT Vancouver.

I remember, I was working as a field tech. It was awesome, roads were totally empty.

[fliptuner]

Thank god for remote start.

[SumAznGuy]

Thank god for remote start.

Don't forget direct-port nitrous... uh... injection, four-core intercoolers, an' ball-bearing turbos, and... um... titanium valve springs.

[cho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9vgLra0Fg


had my winter tires on, guy literally turned around to un-stuck me
he is the real mvp

[originalhypa]

I thought Henrik Sedin was in New Jersey still, but it's obvious that he was helping push random strangers out of the snow in Vancouver.

Is there anything pro athletes can't do?


:lol



Don't forget direct-port nitrous... uh... injection, four-core intercoolers, an' ball-bearing turbos, and... um... titanium valve springs.

Don't forget the mashimoto tires, Motec exhaust, and 3 Spoon motors directly imported from Japan.

http://cdn.drivingline.com//media/articleimages/2015/04/4japan.jpg

[G]

Man, they are really hyping up this Thursday night "snowstorm"... :/

[unit]

most exciting thing happening in this city is the possibility of 1" of snow

[MarkyMark]

Man, they are really hyping up this Thursday night "snowstorm"... :/

Don't be shocked if we get fuck all, the worst storms are the ones they don't talk about 5 days in advance.

[HonestTea]

Don't be shocked if we get fuck all, the worst storms are the ones they don't talk about 5 days in advance.

Exactly. I don't expect much on Thursday since there's so much hype around it lol

[6o4__boi]

most exciting thing happening in this city is the possibility of 1"

fixed
:troll:



Don't be shocked if we get fuck all, the worst storms are the ones they don't talk about 5 days in advance.

pretty much...wouldn't be surprised if it ends up raining all day tomorrow and Friday.

[lilaznviper]

dad trying to buy salt and most places are sold out... anyone located some in vancouver or bby area?

[fliptuner]

dad trying to buy salt and most places are sold out... anyone located some in vancouver or bby area?

Sweep it from your neighbor's sidewalk :troll:

[The_AK]

^lmao, if someone is creative enough they can scoop up buckets of water from the ocean and advertise it as salt spray

[Spectre_Cdn]

Brb, going to Garry Point to get my natural artisanal salt-flavoured Ocean Spray :haha:

[maneetkaran]

As homeowners are you guys shoveling "your" area of the sidewalk?

I shovel my part, but today as I was walking down from imperial and canada way, not a single house had "their" sidewalk shoveled.

[SSM_DC5]

As homeowners are you guys shoveling "your" area of the sidewalk?

I shovel my part, but today as I was walking down from imperial and canada way, not a single house had "their" sidewalk shoveled.

Yes I shovel my sidewalk. I was under the impression that it's the law. a quick search and I found that it's "required" but doesn't say what the consequences are.

Your Role as a Business or Resident

Residents and businesses play an important role during periods of snow and icy weather:

Clear the Way. Businesses are required to remove accumulated snow from sidewalks bordering the property by 10:00 AM on any day in which the premises are open or occupied by the public. Residents are required to remove snow and ice from sidewalks abutting their property as soon as possible.
Reduce Hazards. Do not shovel snow from sidewalks or driveways onto the roads as this creates a traffic hazards and interferes with drainage of melting snow.
Help us by clearing snow from storm drains and fire hydrants. This will help drainage of melting snow and will ensure quick access to a hydrant in case of a fire. To locate a storm drain or fire hydrant on your street, see the Burnaby Map. (Navigation note: Storm drain information is found in the map layer: Engineering, Infrastructure, Storm, Catch Basins. Fire hydrants are found under the map layer: Engineering, Water, Water hydrants.)
Be a Good Neighbour. Clear snow and ice from sidewalks can be a difficult task for our senior residents, or those with limited mobility. The City is no longer running its formal Snow Angels volunteer snow-shovelling program and is instead asking residents to take the initiative lend a helping hand to neighbours that may need assistance clearing snow and ice from sidewalks.

https://www.burnaby.ca/City-Services/Roads---Traffic/Snow-and-Ice-Control.html


EDIT: Maybe i'm getting it mixed up with Vancouver
Note: Property owners, occupants, and tenants may be fined for not clearing the sidewalk around their property by the 10:00am deadline.
http://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/snow-removal-from-city-streets.aspx

[StylinRed]

I'm surprised at how much snow the rest of metro van got, Ridge just got rain except for Eastern Maple Ridge, closer to Mission side

[MG1]

dad trying to buy salt and most places are sold out... anyone located some in vancouver or bby area?

Home Depot maybe?

I buy some every year. Even if it doesn't snow or freeze. I have enough. BTW, regular salt doesn't work below a certain temperature. It becomes useless.

I have the Alaskan Melt stuff. Buy when they're not in demand, then laugh at others who are caught without. LOL.


Tell you what, lilaznviper......... I'll bring you a bag or two of the Safe-T-Salt if you give me back the mini screwdriver set with the Apple iPhone pentalobes I lent you.

[MG1]

As homeowners are you guys shoveling "your" area of the sidewalk?

I shovel my part, but today as I was walking down from imperial and canada way, not a single house had "their" sidewalk shoveled.

I shovel mine, plus the guy next door. He's a senior who suffered a stroke last year. He still shovels his walkways around his property. He's like 80+ years old. His son was around during the snowfall and he just leaves......... like, W-T-F??????

My son and daughter shovelled his sidewalk, actually, 'cause I had to deal with the mess out back. They were just starting the neighbour's sidewalk when the son left................. I can guarantee you at that age, my kids will come by and shovel the sidewalk. Did something right............nuff said.

[fliptuner]

If the neighbor is out and I'm not, he shovels in front of my place. If I'm out and and his needs re-doing, I take care of it. It's worked well over the years.

[MG1]

RS Impromptu mini meat.......... fuck the 14mm socket.

We all bring a bag of salt to lilaznviper's place, meet crackhead chicks in his back alley. Like good ol' times, man.

[MG1]

If the neighbor is out and I'm not, he shovels in front of my place. If I'm out and and his needs re-doing, I take care of it. It's worked well over the years.

I thought you moved a half dozen times.........


also condo........... ten feet worth, lolololol.

Okay, that was bad........... 25 feet :troll:

[MG1]

Damn it, just remembered, he has my spring compressors, too. Not that I will ever use them again.

[fliptuner]

I go to my parents and shovel theirs

[lilaznviper]

haha yea i still have spring compressors and mini screw driver set. that miniscrew driver set helped me with a couple of phones and surfaces. need to purchase myself a set as well.

depends on how bad it snows or ice up it is... probably won't even leave the house for work. can work from home in my underwear

[MG1]

Well, Safeway on Hastings and Kensington has salt. Just arrived. $6.29 a bag. Being unloaded off truck as I type.

Safeway's on the ball. They know demand.

[Inaii]

Lordco is basically sold out. As soon as we get it in, 5 minutes later it's sold out. I swear there are people waiting until they see our trucks pull in so they can grab it.

[godwin]

MG1 needs to have a segment on local TV called MG1's price patrol..!! Start it as a business and you can turn your drives to Costco US as company expense ;)

According to this article (http://www.theprovince.com/news/local+news/salt+short+supply+metro+vancouver+braces+more+snow/12492309/story.html) Lowe's said they are not expecting shipment for 3 weeks!!?

I don't understand why home owners don't store a bag or 2 of salt and store those cheap HD plastic bucket. For you new home owners just buy 2 bags at the end of the season of every season.. you are good to go pretty much every season after.

Well, Safeway on Hastings and Kensington has salt. Just arrived. $6.29 a bag. Being unloaded off truck as I type.

Safeway's on the ball. They know demand.

[saveth]

Any salt should work as an ice melter. The only downside with using table salt is it doesn't really provide the traction like road salt. Pool salt works a lot faster than any ice melting salt I've ever seen and if used with some sand works really well.

[yray]

To drive SUV with runflat all seasons or RWD sport car with winter wheels tomorrow. :suspicious: :derp:

[Teriyaki]

To drive SUV with runflat all seasons or RWD sport car with winter wheels tomorrow. :suspicious: :derp:

2 wheels with traction is better than 4 wheels with no traction. :pokerface:

[mb_]

To drive SUV with runflat all seasons or RWD sport car with winter wheels tomorrow. :suspicious: :derp:

Don't be a bitch, drive RWD with winters

[fliptuner]

The one that turns and stops better

[Lomac]

Damn it, just remembered, he has my spring compressors, too. Not that I will ever use them again.

I think santofu still has my spring compressors...

[Inaii]

^good luck...

[moody]

I was at Canadian tire (grand view Hwy location) picking up a shovel. The guys brought in a full pallet of road salt. Ppl were like vultures all gone within 5 mins. And the ppl that didn't get any bitched about how one guy had like 10 bags in his cart.. Haha.. Anyways, Canadian tire will have more road salt at 10am dec08.

[N.V.M.]

they're predicting a 200 mm dump of snow. Vancouver will cease to exist.

[MG1]

I'm an old timer............ what is 200mm? I need inches. Gulololol.

[MG1]

It's colder in Burnaby right now than Abbotsford.......... Mission, lol. That place is always colder and wetter than anywhere in the Lower Fraser Valley. It's -17 over there. I keep track of the weather in Mission, because Mission Raceway Park. It's on my app. I chuckle all the time. I never make fun of where people live, with the exception of Lomac's buttfuck nowhere, but Mission is not a place I would want to take roots.

[quasi]

I'm an old timer............ what is 200mm? I need inches. Gulololol.

8 inches and I'm with you fuck Millimeters.

[quasi]

As homeowners are you guys shoveling "your" area of the sidewalk?

I shovel my part, but today as I was walking down from imperial and canada way, not a single house had "their" sidewalk shoveled.

I still haven't had any snow that sticks but typically if I"m out there I'd shovel my neighbors on both sides. It's a good deal, I haven't had to mow the grass in front of my house (that strip the city owns) in 4 years because my neighbor does it for me.

[GLOW]

And the ppl that didn't get any bitched about how one guy had like 10 bags in his cart.. Haha..

that just means those people can buy bags of salt off of him on CL for $15-20/bag :troll:

[320icar]

I'm kind of excited for the snow! Both cars have their snow tires mounted and everything.


.... But I live 1.5km from work, so I can just walk lol. I feel really bad for people who have long commutes. Clarksonsmugface.jpg

[SumAznGuy]

I buy some every year. Even if it doesn't snow or freeze. I have enough. BTW, regular salt doesn't work below a certain temperature. It becomes useless

Salt stops working somewhere after -6C or for MG1 21F.
In other provinces, they tend to throw sand over top to try to get traction on ice.

[SumAznGuy]

So far, this first snow fall reminds me of the snow fall of 2002 or was it 2003.
After the snow fall, the following days were sunny and cloud free but cold which meant lots of ice on all the side streets.
I'm hoping it stays cold enough that I can go skating on ponds this weekend.

[Verdasco]

drove my FRS for the first time since Sunday

will last a day before snowfall today

:awwyeah:


how is the salt stock @ canadian tire and home depot in richmond?

everyong raging to buy it? SwiftRage

[6o4__boi]

still a bit dubious on how bad it will actually be
it's never as bad as the warnings

but at least it looks like they will be more prepared this time around

[thumper]

someone asked about this:

Ice damage from Port Mann, Alex Fraser bridges to get government funds | Vancouver Sun (http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-government-to-pay-deductible-for-cars-damaged-by-falling-snow-ice-on-bridges)

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The B.C. government will pay the deductible for vehicles damaged by falling ice and slush on the Alex Fraser and Port Mann bridges during Monday’s storm, Transportation Minister Todd Stone said Tuesday.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Insurance Corp. of B.C. had received 40 such claims — 30 from owners of vehicles crossing the Alex Fraser and 10 from the Port Mann, spokesman Sam Corea said in an emailed statement.

“ICBC is reviewing the claims from the bridges, but it appears most are for windshield damage and a few with hood or roof damage,” he said.

“We’re very thankful that no one was hurt during these incidents, but we are not happy at all that vehicles were damaged by falling snow and ice.”

The Transportation Investment Corp. will also refund tolls for affected drivers on the Port Mann, Stone said.


Drivers whose vehicles were damaged by falling snow or ice on either bridge Monday should first contact ICBC to start a claim, Stone said, and then call the B.C. Ministry of Transportation at (604) 424-8240 to have their deductible refunded.

“I want to say very clearly to the people of British Columbia that we can and we will do better.”

Stone said all the safety measures will be deployed before the next snowfall hits Metro Vancouver, which weather forecasts predict will be on Thursday.

Officials did a full inspection of the cables and towers of both bridges. “I’m advised that there is no accumulation of snow or ice on either the Port Mann and Alex Fraser,” he said, adding that officials will continue to closely monitor both bridges.

On the Alex Fraser Bridge, de-icing agents are being sprayed on the cross-beams and tower ahead of the next snowfall. This will be repeated multiple times to prevent snow and ice accumulation, Stone said. Because cables don’t cross the travelling lanes on the Alex Fraser, it’s rare for snow or ice to hit cars below, he said, adding that high winds on Monday could have played a role. It is also possible the de-icer on the Alex Fraser wasn’t applied early enough or frequently enough on Monday, he added.

On the Port Mann, there are 30 collars fitted around each of the bridge’s 288 cables, which drop down to dislodge any snow or ice that has accumulated on the cables. The collars were fitted on the bridge cables in 2013 after dozens of cars were damaged by falling snow and ice on the bridge in December 2012.

“The collars are dropped at sufficient frequency to ensure that any dislodged materials are small, to prevent damage to vehicles.”

This did not happen on Monday, so on Thursday the contractor will run the collar system more frequently and earlier in the snowfall to knock off any accumulation, Stone said.

There will be stepped-up monitoring of both bridges in the coming days, and officials are investigating the damage to vehicles on Monday to see if any other measures need to be put in place.

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[unit]

ice salt is sold out in lots of places. we use a lot of it at work and yesterday we couldn't find any. when i went home i stopped by army and navy and bought 6 big bags, they only had 2 left after that.

[thumper]

i bought a bucket of alaskan ice melt last year from costco and only now am i getting to use it... not sure if they have any this year if nothing else is available?

[thumper]

newsflash...

Alex Fraser Bridge may shut down if snow storm becomes too severe | iNews880 (http://www.inews880.com/syn/112/251263/alex-fraser-bridge-to-shut-down-if-snow-storm-becomes-too-severe)

http://d2x3wmakafwqf5.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/112/files/2016/12/ice-bomb.jpg

[6o4__boi]

lmfao my strata's building manager bought 40 sacks of salt a few years ago "because it was on sale."

we've literally used like a bag since then

[Verdasco]

lmfao my strata's building manager bought 40 sacks of salt a few years ago "because it was on sale."

we've literally used like a bag since then


black market it on the RS yo...... promise you will not go to jail


you are selling the legal salt, not bathsalt :lawl:

[Armind]

Brace yourselves, winter is coming. :ohgodwhy:

[fliptuner]

I was at Canadian tire (grand view Hwy location) picking up a shovel. The guys brought in a full pallet of road salt. Ppl were like vultures all gone within 5 mins. And the ppl that didn't get any bitched about how one guy had like 10 bags in his cart.. Haha.. Anyways, Canadian tire will have more road salt at 10am dec08.

Sounds like that old Costco, pallet of milk situation.

[6o4__boi]

black market it on the RS yo...... promise you will not go to jail

gonna wait til the snow comes and stores run out first then put some up for sale and pad up that CRF
:ilied:

[meme405]

lmfao my strata's building manager bought 40 sacks of salt a few years ago "because it was on sale."

we've literally used like a bag since then

Strata's love to waste your money if left un-monitored.

5 bags in reserve I can understand, but to buy basically a pallet just to continuously stockpile the stuff is really wasteful. Not to mention if it gets wet it becomes useless, so it needs to be stored properly.

My office isn't far from metrotown, and it's on a decently steep little hill, city of burnaby never came by to plow our two access roads, and it completely froze over, I pulled a guy in a minivan (towing a uhaul) up our hill yesterday. Our guys eventually got tired of the shit show and broke out our bobcat and plowed/scraped the entire street clean. Luckily for us we have the tools and capacity, but ridiculous that after 3 days the city never even bothered to come sand the motherfucker. Like I understand that they can't really plow the frozen hard shit after the first day, but atleast come throw something on it so it ain't a sheet of ice.


In other provinces, they tend to throw sand over top to try to get traction on ice.

Sand is a very polite term for it, up north here in BC, they appear to use like 2" minus gravel. Fuckin' ridiculous, I got 3 rock chips just from PG to Smithers a few weeks ago.

[unit]

i paid like $13.99 for a 10kg bag yesterday at army and navy..
usually we pay like $3-4 at walmart for the same size bag.

it's a safety issue though so nothing we can do

[twitchyzero]

So far, this first snow fall reminds me of the snow fall of 2002 or was it 2003.
After the snow fall, the following days were sunny and cloud free but cold which meant lots of ice on all the side streets.
I'm hoping it stays cold enough that I can go skating on ponds this weekend.

i believe that winter and 1998 were the only white christmases i had in vancouver. The snow/ice stuck around for like a solid 2-3 weeks then. I remember the news reported poorly mobile seniors were getting bed sores because most handidarts did not run.

[7seven]

A place some don't think about looking for ice melt if everywhere else is sold out is Petsmart or other pet supply stores. They carry pet safe ice melt, was at Petsmart the other day and they had a bunch still, might cost a bit more than regular ice melt but if you really need some, will do.

[Hondaracer]

sweeeet... gonna check that out..

need some salt before i head to Van

[Bouncing Bettys]

If you can't find salt, use kitty litter. It won't melt snow/ice but it will provide plenty of traction.

[toehook]

Just checked Home Depot (Richmond) and Iron Wood Canadian Tire, both locations are out of salt and will be in by next week.

Good thing I bought two bags a couple of years back!

[subordinate]

Special weather notice has ended...guess there isn't going to be as much as they predicted.

[6o4__boi]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ^

inb4 its rain overnight and through the weekend

[m3thods]

Special weather notice has ended...guess there isn't going to be as much as they predicted.

Source? I can't seem to find anything on it (nor can I find anything regarding a special weather advisory).

[6o4__boi]

https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-74_metric_e.html

Edit: Snowfall warning just put in effect
seems like the forecasted snowfall decreasing with time though

[Bouncing Bettys]

If weather predictions fail one more time after this, they better prepare riot gear instead of snow gear.

[whitev70r]

newsflash...

Alex Fraser Bridge may shut down if snow storm becomes too severe | iNews880 (http://www.inews880.com/syn/112/251263/alex-fraser-bridge-to-shut-down-if-snow-storm-becomes-too-severe)


That's unbelievable, if Alex Fraser closes ... maybe Port Mann will too, get ready for a gong show. Call in sick on Friday people! Is Vancouver the only city with bridges that have snow? What do other city with bridges do?

[thumper]

That's unbelievable, if Alex Fraser closes ... maybe Port Mann will too, get ready for a gong show. Call in sick on Friday people! Is Vancouver the only city with bridges that have snow? What do other city with bridges do?

Falling ice rare, but not unheard of, on world?s cable-stayed bridges (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Falling+rare+unheard+world+cable+stayed+bridges/7729133/story.html)

[Liquid_o2]

2 to 4 cm of snow expected tonight. Up to 5 to 7 cm tomorrow. Could really add up.

[thumper]

2 to 4 cm of snow expected tonight. Up to 5 to 7 cm tomorrow. Could really add up.

i like your numbers better, but according to what 604_boi posted above...


Tonight
Cloudy. Snow beginning late this evening. Amount 2 to 4 cm. Windy. Temperature steady near minus 3.

Fri, 9 Dec
Snow. Amount 5 cm except 15 cm over higher terrain. Windy early in the morning. High plus 1.
Night Snow or rain. Low zero.

i'm from north burnaby, which pretty much follows SFU's weather forecasts... guess which one i'm expecting :cry:

[Lowered_Klass]

I'm hoping that since the bulk of the snow is supposed to happen overnight and into tomorrow morning, that a lot of people will just take a 3day weekend.

I just wish the people who aren't comfortable driving in snow, and the people who's cars clearly aren't winter/snow ready, stay the fuck off the roads.

[7seven]

sweeeet... gonna check that out..

need some salt before i head to Van

Just checked Petsmart.ca website, the inventory says available today for pickup at Vancouver 2nd Avenue, Metrotown, BBY Marine Way, Port Coquitlam and Richmond stores. Sold out at Grandview Highway and North Van stores.

[tegra7]

I'm hoping that since the bulk of the snow is supposed to happen overnight and into tomorrow morning, that a lot of people will just take a 3day weekend.

I j.

I hope to be one of these people. My cul de sac is already a challenge to get out of.

[whitev70r]

I hope to be one of these people. My cul de sac is already a challenge to get out of.

Unless you work in the snow tire industry ... take a 'sick' day everyone! :cool:

[ilovebacon]

i sitll dont have my timberlands! my feet are slipping everywhere i step in ice

[pb.kidz]

Picked up a used set of snow tire chains to use with my M+S tires, I'm ready for you snow

[coneZONE]

Unless you work in the snow tire industry ... take a 'sick' day everyone! :cool:

Boooo... I've had to OT every single day so far :(

[punkwax]

Heard on the radio you can use pickling salt as well and it can be bought in some grocery stores...

Apparently cheap but I've never shopped for it so can't confirm where or how much.

[Liquid_o2]

About 12 jugs of Ice Melt left at Petsmart in Richmond... 4kg bottle for $10.50 I believe. Not cheap but will do the job as most places are sold out.

[Bouncing Bettys]

One thing to keep in mind with salt, is that it can harm some concrete surfaces. Which is why I used to use kitty litter. A straw broom can also do a good job of clearing snow beyond what a shovel can remove.

[MG1]

I love my spring action ice chipper. Bought it on clearance at some liquidation place ten years ago. Never used it till now.

[AzNightmare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIXOXw0NRCU

[ilovebacon]

is it me or is he putting the car back into gear too quickly after each time he reverses..

[N.V.M.]

If weather predictions fail one more time after this, they better prepare riot gear instead of snow gear.

The American weather models say rain.

[hud 91gt]

is it me or is he putting the car back into gear too quickly after each time he reverses..

Too quickly?

[marksport]

We just bought a pallet of salt at work, 40 bags 25kgs. Hopefully it lasts us for a little bit as I've got 2 acres of concrete that's iced over and 8-10 tractors trailers coming every day. Had an empty b-train get stuck driving off the scale and going up the driveway with no chance of backing up at the beginning of this year. Luckily the telehandler we were renting was able to pull him out or we would have had to drive the excavator out to pull him up.

[whitev70r]

So far, it's a dud. Let's get this show started!

[Gucci Mane]

So far, it's a dud. Let's get this show started!

snow is supposed to start falling around midnight..

[hi-revs]

I dont have work tomorrow so please let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!!!

[EmOne]

http://i.imgur.com/2otPDlq.jpg

[TOPEC]

is it me or is he putting the car back into gear too quickly after each time he reverses..

Too quickly?

i think he meant the car rolling forward after reversing, due to probably an incline, so he thought the driver reversed and slammed it into first to go forward causing excessive wear

[ilovebacon]

^exactly

what in hell is going on at canadian tires? free salt lol?

[Eatman]

^exactly

what in hell is going on at canadian tires? free salt lol?

salt in bulk, you prepay inside and lineup outside to collect your bags
that must've been there 2nd or 3rd shipment for today, I was there at 2pm grabbing my 2 bags

[Jmac]

Light but snowing sideways here

[Teriyaki]

Light but snowing sideways here

Nice. So it begins.

[HonestTea]

Light but snowing sideways here

Where is "here"?

[MG1]

Duncan....... over on the, 'is land

[Akinari]

So...where's the snow?

Weather reports keep pushing back the snow start time. First from before midnight, to right at midnight, then right after midnight, and now it's already an hour past midnight nothing yet :lawl:

A firefighter friend of mine in Lynnwood WA is gonna have a very busy shift tonight. Sent me a photo, it's snowing like crazy out there already.

[Drow]

Where the fuck is the snow

If it aint snowing then i cant be late for work

[Jmac]

Roughly 5 cm, still lightly snowing in Duncan. Wind has died off

[TOS'd]

this forecasted snow was overhyped, hope i see something in the morning.

[Eatman]

don't see shit... pretty disappointed

[Bouncing Bettys]

Snowing in Aldergrove

[AzNightmare]

:lawl:

False alarm.

[Jmac]

Radar shows most of the precipitation fell south of Vancouver

Still snowing in Duncan. Will probably be around 10-15 cm by the time commuters start to head out.

[Eatman]

just started snowing a little bit here in Vancouver

[Teriyaki]

Like nothing here in Richmond. So bunk

[MG1]

Son, I'm disappoint................ I mean, mother.

[stewie]

Snowing ever so lightly in Burnaby :(
disappointing... I was hoping to wake up to a couple of inches of snow