[ryugeeh]

Snow Day for me here in Victoria!

[Drow]

Nice snowstorm

[jeedee]

starting to stick here in the Renfrew area....

welp looks like I'm staying indoors all of today :fuckthatshit:

[whitev70r]

Wow ... epic.

[Akinari]

Well that was by far the easiest commute I've had in like, forever.

Alright how many people took the day off today, there were barely any cars on the road.

[thumper]

i made it in to work today, but when i left north burnaby at 6am it was starting to stick. sloppy burnaby plowing meant all the turn lanes are not plowed and i had to watch a minivan do the pinball thing against the curb to turn because it's all pack ice.

but i'm now here in slurrey with only one other staffer because no one else showed up. i am covering for someone on holiday and i do not have any more holiday leave to cover this year so skipping work is not an option for me :( . we are both worried that it's going to pick up and we'll be sleeping in the staff lounge tonight...

[EDIT] someone else just came in. he said abbotsford is baaad... the valley must be getting hit hard right now :o

[Verdasco]

About 12 jugs of Ice Melt left at Petsmart in Richmond... 4kg bottle for $10.50 I believe. Not cheap but will do the job as most places are sold out.

bought one last night... had like a big ass stack around 9pm

went to the dollar store and the lady saw me holding it and quickly ran next door to grab some :lawl:

[unit]

snow is starting to stick in surrey now.
it was forecasted early but it's still happening.
getting to work was super easy, going home might be another story

[Verdasco]

drove from richmond to vancouver downtown with ease...

literally no snow in richmond and vancouver, melted slush falling down the skies :D

[JSALES]

Snowing at the airport

[pastarocket]

Like nothing here in Richmond. So bunk

-really hoping for warmer temperatures in Richmond this weekend. I got a haircut apt with my stylist on Saturday.

-no way that I'm rescheduling a haircut because of snow. LUL

[6o4__boi]

to the people who took today off...you da real MVP

[marksport]

Still coming down here in Abby.

[SpeedStars]

No snow here in rmd and like 1cm in South van...kinda disappointed tbh :okay:

[thumper]

my co worker from abbotsford said city crews didn't plow anything and only threw out some gravel on both the normal roads and hwy1? can't wait for things to eventually melt and everyone is going to get rock chipped to hell and/or broken windshields.

also:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzP0KRjVIAAdmWl.jpg:large

[jjson]

South Burnaby has barely anything compared to North Burnaby. Friendly reminder to raise wipers off your windshield for anyone who has work today and needs to park outside!

[flagella]

Nothing in PoCo this morning. It's snowing here in dt but doesn't look like it will stick.

[JSALES]

There's already some school closures lol. When I was in high school, I didn't get no damn snow days even on the worst day it snowed

[Bouncing Bettys]

Never had a snow day back in Kamloops. If the bus to school was spinning out, everyone had to move to the back to help with traction.

[6o4__boi]

it's steady little flakes in BCIT area
not the type that piles up though

[murd0c]

Nothing in PoCo this morning. It's snowing here in dt but doesn't look like it will stick.

I'm in Poco right now and my work parking lot is completely white.

[whitev70r]

Yesterday and today were the best commute ever in south Van ... absolutely no congestion near Knight St. ... it was like a Sunday.

I get my weather reports from Revscene as oppose to the weather network/channel! Far more accurate.

[The_AK]

Its been the earliest I've ever gone into the office today... fastest commute yet

[tofu1413]

super quick commute.........



no traffic and felt like a Sunday morning. Awesome.



For those that can't drive, please stay home like this so I can enjoy my commutes every snow day.

[whitev70r]

super quick commute.........

no traffic and felt like a Sunday morning. Awesome.

For those that can't drive, please stay home like this so I can enjoy my commutes every snow day.

In fact, I hope those who took transit these past few days like it so much that there will be less cars on the road in the future!

[thumper]

those of you in north burnaby right now, i am expecting hourly reports from you all... you are all my eyes and ears to give me hope that i will be able to go home after work today. do not fail me! :p

[EvoFire]

It's actually snowing harder DT than South Burnaby

There were no cars on the street, and the skytrain was not busy. Lots of people took the day off I think. I hope I don't regret not driving because translink was saying skytrains are operating normally, but I waited a long time for my train to come.

[inv4zn]

Starting to come down sideways in South Burnaby (Marine @ Boundary).

Pavement is starting to get covered.

[Mr.HappySilp]

BCIT area isn't snowing too much..... but is coming down harder.

[MG1]

those of you in north burnaby right now, i am expecting hourly reports from you all... you are all my eyes and ears to give me hope that i will be able to go home after work today. do not fail me! :p

I'm still in bed......... I'll be driving around in a while. Last few days the parking lot at the casino has been empty. Never seen the place so abandoned.

I'll keep you fellow Burnaby residents posted.

[Liquid_o2]

Snowing super hard on Fraser St in Vancouver right now.

[coneZONE]

In North Van Lynn Valley, 7:45 the road was still black, but started snowing, I think about 8:30 it started to stick. Coming down steady now, still not plowed. Probably about an inch of fresh snow

[Sentinel]

Lots of flurries in dt by burrard stn. Not sticking.

[fliptuner]

This is pathetic

[Armind]

Snows too much, we complain..


Snows too less, we complain..


Vacouverites. :lawl:

[hi-revs]

Anyone know some good lots in coquitlam to check out?

[The_AK]

think its raining in richmond

[thumper]

downtown vancouver around 10am:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzQHumRW8AAtBmp.jpg

[Liquid_o2]

Ok now it stopped. This is ridiculous.

[tegra7]

Nothing coming down in Langley. How is Surrey?

[320icar]

think its raining in richmond

Incorrect, it's snowing fairly hard at Richmond costco

[tofu1413]

Suddenly stopped here in Burnaby north / Boundary rd...

[inv4zn]

Stopped in south bby as well. I think I see a hint of blue in the sky lol

[6o4__boi]

looks like #snowmageddon2016 is over

we will rebuild, bigger and better

[Verdasco]

ZERO SNOW FALL IN DOWNTOWN VANCOUVER

office @ coal harbor and i see zero snowfall

edit: it better friqqin snow sometime this week.... bought this $11 pet friendly salt from petsmart last night ........ :D

[thumper]

Nothing coming down in Langley. How is Surrey?

i'm at surrey SFU. it was still snowing moderately a half hour ago when i was near a window.

they were talking to a canadian tire manager on the radio who said "this is vancouver. no one has salt or a snow shovel" and they are all sold out. at one location they had a dump truck come in and dump a load of road salt right in the parking lot and staffers were out there bagging it all up with customers were lining up for over an hour to buy... but i missed hearing which location though sorry.

[The_AK]

Richmond

http://i68.tinypic.com/s1rwwi.jpg

[fishCak3s]

Stopped snowing completely here in south Burnaby at market crossing.

[EvoFire]

At waterfront, and it's pretty much stopped. #snowstormfail

[boibuddha]

No more snow falling in Surrey, at least in the Guilford area.

Time to find some road salt, my bag from last year is running low.

[StylinRed]

think the high winds yesterday kept us from getting anything bad

think maple ridge got more snow this time than van, unlike a few days ago where we got none

[pastarocket]

-more expected this afternoon. :suspicious:

[The_AK]

me with this "snow" so far


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3H1unF2d_8M/UwpunJ_eazI/AAAAAAAAX_Y/QW-cKZI2r-I/s1600/original.jpg

[The_AK]

Snow forces school closures, Harbour Air flight cancellations | CTV Vancouver News (http://bc.ctvnews.ca/snow-forces-school-closures-harbour-air-flight-cancellations-1.3196582)

Do they have the right Vancouver? lol

[roastpuff]

You people need to stop trusting The Weather Network. Go for Environment Canada, they are usually way more accurate.

Vancouver, BC - 7 Day Forecast - Environment Canada (http://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-74_metric_e.html)

[The_AK]

^standard procedure is visit the website that promises most snow, then complain

[6o4__boi]

2-5 cm
:fuckthatshit:

GG Snowfall

People better not fuck up on the highway this afternoon :rukidding:

[StylinRed]

people were spinning out on my street this morning.. with like 1cm of snow on the ground... :seriously:

[whitev70r]

Some crazies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYQllmnMlKI

[Cr33pUh]

How's the snow near Killarney?

[Lomac]

So this is what we have in Kamloops so far this year:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15355690_10157904566010080_627167760266664855_n.jp g?oh=b555bcaa1d09812de691f486651fcbf7&oe=58EA84C1

Compared to this time last year:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10915147_10155018789075080_1555265721453224930_n.j pg?oh=4d402b6858219324cc7d9bf83d85b723&oe=58F5C26D

[boibuddha]

Snow forces school closures, Harbour Air flight cancellations | CTV Vancouver News (http://bc.ctvnews.ca/snow-forces-school-closures-harbour-air-flight-cancellations-1.3196582)

Do they have the right Vancouver? lol

Harbour Air does run its flights out of Waterfront. The control tower has to look out for boats, debris and wildlife in the air and water. Visibility is very limited anytime there is snow. It says probably out of the airlines control anyways if the control tower doesn't give clearance.

Not sure about the school closures though, conditions don't seem much different than Monday or Tuesday.

[thumper]

nothing in whalley... those cars you see on the left in the parking lot were there since before 7am so that's all the snow we got here... eye of the storm? :confused:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15327507_10154765665453134_8338782579804457928_n.j pg?oh=c021ada6c2288aac81c6bd3ddf37b1bf&oe=58FBA623

[EvoFire]

Snowing at Waterfront again, really small powdery stuff

[murd0c]

Some crazies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYQllmnMlKI

The worst part about this is I actually have to go into my pool this weekend underwater to take out a brick that fell in :facepalm:

[Lowered_Klass]

You 'have' to? How come?

I'd just leave the fucker in there :fuckthatshit:

[StylinRed]

You 'have' to? How come?

I'd just leave the fucker in there :fuckthatshit:

Prolly the missus' orders lol

[murd0c]

Prolly the missus' orders lol

:fuuuuu:



cause she took 12 out on Monday on her own while I was working :speechless:


FeelsBadMan

[fliptuner]

Should've told her to finish what she started. :troll:

[MG1]

Wow, that blue ice melt stuff is great. Only one on the block that didn't have to shovel snow
This morning.
Btw, it's coming down pretty good in North Burnaby right now. On my way to Valley Bakery, then Burnaby Central Deer Lake area.

[SpeedStars]

Coming down hard in central rmd :awwyeah:

[The_AK]

Went home for lunch, driving back to work definitely more slush building up and gave myself a little spook in third gear. Stay safe.

[tofu1413]

coming down hard on Burnaby north Boundary rd.




XM satellite radio playing sandstorm. eunce eunce eunce.

[6o4__boi]

hahah starting to pick up again by BCIT

[SkunkWorks]

Picked up again Brentwood area. Client might close their office early...

:awwyeah:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15355716_10154311551269353_6734443586982392714_n.j pg?oh=e44c3e17db2f96d5aa345ab44e095794&oe=58AF3CDF

[Jmac]

Still falling in Duncan. Definitely over 15 cm

[EvoFire]

Turning into rain my ass. Coming down hard at Waterfront, and sticking. Contemplating on leaving early

[JSALES]

starting to stick here in Vancouver

[mikemhg]

Coming down mad hard here in North Burnaby.

Can anyone answer this one though, I was looking at the school closures this morning for shits and gigs, and I noticed all the closures were pretty much private schools?

Why is that? Does god not teach when it snows?

[fishCak3s]

Start falling hard here in south Burnaby around market crossing

[EvoFire]

Coming down mad hard here in North Burnaby.

Can anyone answer this one though, I was looking at the school closures this morning for shits and gigs, and I noticed all the closures were pretty much private schools?

Why is that? Does god not teach when it snows?

Private schools almost always close before public schools do, I think public schools try to stay open as long as possible because they kind of act as daycare for a lot of families, whereas private schools don't serve the same function.

[6o4__boi]

probably cus students in private school more likely to be from all over versus public where students tend to live relatively close

[jjson]

Aaaaaannnd it just stopped. Market Crossing area. Dafuq weather?! make up your damn mind!

[Nlkko]

Dumping in Point Grey.

[JSALES]

Coming down mad hard here in North Burnaby.

Can anyone answer this one though, I was looking at the school closures this morning for shits and gigs, and I noticed all the closures were pretty much private schools?

Why is that? Does god not teach when it snows?

Private schools almost always close before public schools do, I think public schools try to stay open as long as possible because they kind of act as daycare for a lot of families, whereas private schools don't serve the same function.

I don't really believe that's true, I went to a private school and my school never fucking closed which pissed me off lol but then again, it could be just my school that stayed open

[EvoFire]

I don't really believe that's true, I went to a private school and my school never fucking closed which pissed me off lol but then again, it could be just my school that stayed open

Just my assumption, 6o4_boi's reason might be more legit

[6o4__boi]

:fulloffuck:

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand an accident on Hwy 1 after Kensington EB
It's fucking 1:30 with light volume.
Fuck these idiots.

[GS8]

I always thought it had more to do with things like public schools having buses but also in weather like this, a slip and fall could happen to anyone. Maybe the private schools don't want to take that chance so they call a snow day?

On a day like today where advance notice was given, the students were probably given take-home work anyway.


EDIT: Richmond-Lansdowne is feeling the fluff right now. I think I'll remain indoors...

[thumper]

someone i know at the w.6th police station in vancouver says it's like a blizzard...

[thumper]

:fulloffuck:

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand an accident on Hwy 1 after Kensington EB
It's fucking 1:30 with light volume.
Fuck these idiots.

westbound? f*ck there goes my escape route :(

[edit] AM730Traffic ‏@AM730Traffic 8m8 minutes ago
#Burnaby - Accident on Hwy 1 eastbound past Kensington ave in the right lane ^RLid

thank god... i'm still good. unless there is an ice bomb with my name on it waiting for me :o

[6o4__boi]

just tapering off again at BCIT

[wingies]

Richmond is going crazy, sticking like hell

[inv4zn]

Coming down hard and sticking in South Burnaby.

I hope this keeps up :troll:

[saveth]

It's started to dump again in the Newton area

[EvoFire]

It's snowing sideways at Waterfront and Burrard. It's sticking and it's slippery as hell. Cold too as the snow is wet.

[whitev70r]

Coming down steady in South Van. Finally, the snow storm has started. If you can close shop early and head home, it'd be a good idea.

[6o4__boi]

westbound? f*ck there goes my escape route :(

[edit]

thank god... i'm still good. unless there is an ice bomb with my name on it waiting for me :o

too soon bro

reports of vehicle crash Westbound on HWY 1 on the HOV lane by Willingdon.
these fucking rooks
:rukidding:

[m3thods]

it is absolutely dumping in the Coquitlam Center area right now.

[TOS'd]

My Christmas wish. :tears:

[thumper]

dammit this is surrey right now...

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15492182_10154765986953134_1062609141315266029_n.j pg?oh=032478126afbe24d6789ecc5ec4bcad7&oe=58F4B05C

all i hear right now through the windows are cars spinning tires...

[Gumby]

probably cus students in private school more likely to be from all over versus public where students tend to live relatively close
I think that's the biggest factor. Another one might be cuz private school families can often arrange for or afford emergency childcare (or take a day off), whereas public school families have nowhere else to send their kids, or taking a day off is not an option.

My Christmas wish. :tears:
16 days too early! :p

[MG1]

Take Skytrain home. I'll pick you up at Sperling station............ oh, wait, Surrey = never see your car again, lol.

[hud 91gt]

I just drove out to Delta and back from Vancouver. Was loving the lack of traffic, until I hit the steep Oak/Granville area. Thought it was a bad idea (I needed to drive through the residential steep area in there) on my all seasons. Luckily they blocked off the really steep roads as there would be idiots who would attempt it. I just drove down there to see how the roads were. I got stuck pretty damn quick. Slicker then ice. Only thing that saved me getting back onto Broadway was the old manual traction control (Brake and gas). Took the main roads home and parked it. Will take EVO or Car2go if I need to get anywhere. Atleast they have winter tires i'd assume.

[thumper]

Take Skytrain home. I'll pick you up at Sperling station............ oh, wait, Surrey = never see your car again, lol.

dammit. are you still at home? how many feet of snow are we talking about right now in north burnaby?

[Liquid_o2]

It's a blizzard in East Van now. Had to shovel the driveway twice and just gave up.

[MG1]

Renfrew and Grandview McD's wet snow coming down pretty good. Driving conditions are good.

[tegra7]

Very light flurries in Langley.

[MarkyMark]

Coming down hard in North Delta

[Verdasco]

tons of snow in downtown but slowing down a bit. still wet flurry

[vexor]

wow, everything is red and orange on Google maps traffic

Still snowing hard in Coquitlam

Update:
This is how it looks like at work in Coquitlam near Coquitlam Center as of 3:15pm
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15442363_10157830937605058_3629935887620248690_n.j pg?oh=3eac7da137debc25b239143194a53ae6&oe=58F29A28

[Bouncing Bettys]

Medium-sized flakes coming down at the Langley Airport now, just as my gf heads out to work with little winter driving experience.

[racerman88]

Still snowing in Queensborough

[LSF22]

stopped in ricemond near ironwood

[punkwax]

Starting and stopping in S Surrey. Snowing ATM. Decent flakes.

[MG1]

Stopped snowing. At Grand Villa. Damn, the place is full. Lol

[TOPEC]

I don't really believe that's true, I went to a private school and my school never fucking closed which pissed me off lol but then again, it could be just my school that stayed open

Just spoke with a customer that works at the Richmond school board n that's the exact reason he gave me regarding closing public schools vs private schools.

[BrokenEuro]

I just drove out to Delta and back from Vancouver. Was loving the lack of traffic, until I hit the steep Oak/Granville area. Thought it was a bad idea (I needed to drive through the residential steep area in there) on my all seasons. Luckily they blocked off the really steep roads as there would be idiots who would attempt it. I just drove down there to see how the roads were. I got stuck pretty damn quick. Slicker then ice. Only thing that saved me getting back onto Broadway was the old manual traction control (Brake and gas). Took the main roads home and parked it. Will take EVO or Car2go if I need to get anywhere. Atleast they have winter tires i'd assume.

Car2go have all-seasons. EVO have M+S rated all-seasons.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Any time I've used a rental vehicle in the winter ie Budget, they didn't have vehicles with snow tires. I haven't rented in almost a decade so perhaps that has changed.

[josayeee]

Stopped snowing in North Van.. Roads are more wet/slushy. Anyone know what Burnaby is like at the moment?

[Adorkami]

Right before I got to my house there was an accident on Parker just west of Holdom in North Burnaby. Area has been shut down for about 1 1/2 hours and still no tow truck, just a fire truck and cop car.

[tofu1413]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15492210_10154312991876559_1106162553963281374_n.j pg?oh=97f191dda1bc03132db284f86b693fd5&oe=58EEE84F


Got some nicely buried inventory at work now. Snow day sale for y'all. :lawl:

[AzNightmare]

Not seeing much snow on the roads near my work area...
Not sure what's everyone talking about...

Road is just lightly covered with a layer of snow.

[AstulzerRZD]

Any time I've used a rental vehicle in the winter ie Budget, they didn't have vehicles with snow tires. I haven't rented in almost a decade so perhaps that has changed.

Modo and Zipcar are the ones to look to for Winter Tires. Modo's got a huge fleet of winter tired cars.

[carisear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9vgLra0Fg


had my winter tires on, guy literally turned around to un-stuck me
he is the real mvp

soo, because I saw this video, just now on my way home I saw a guy that was stuck, so I stopped, got out of my car and helped to push him out of the ice patch that he was stuck on.


took literally 30 seconds but I hope I made his day.

[Inaii]

I pulled my drivers off the road at 3pm because the roads were so bad in Coquitlam. Afaik, Westwood Lordco did the same. Left the rx parked at work, got it stuck in the middle of our lot trying to park closer to the door. Manager was standing on the front steps laughing at me (he hates imports).

[Euro7r]

Wet and slushy from Burnaby to Vancouver home. No issues with winter tires + rwd. I get scared when someone is going like 30km on a a main road with no cars in front, these people shouldn't even be on the road.....

[tegra7]

Light flurries starting again in Slurrey.

[- kT]

Wet and slushy from Burnaby to Vancouver home. No issues with winter tires + rwd. I get scared when someone is going like 30km on a a main road with no cars in front, these people shouldn't even be on the road.....

i'd rather them do that than to drive way too fast and hit me :pokerface:

route from main+2nd home to richmond at 5:30pm was a breeze. roads were basically just wet (main roads). what's the rest of tonight supposed to look like?

[coneZONE]

Stopped by Nanaimo and 1st to have pho, saw that someone had parked his Focus for awhile and had left his rear window open halfway, all i had in my car was a plastic bag. Kind of was able to cover most of the opening, i hope he doesnt have too much snow inside his car :/

[Akinari]

Well I guess we spoke too early, it's really coming down hard now, road crews can't keep up. So glad I took transit today LOL.

Saw an R34 GTR in front of my gf's house with the front bumper caved in, probably hit a curb. Man it's nuts.

Drive safely everyone!

[EvoFire]

Slowing hard in South BBY, gonna go try out the Mini in the snow to see how a short wheelbase FWD handles

[HonestTea]

Snowing really hard in Coquitlam as well

[- kT]

drove from Richmond to queensborough. coming down hard the whole way. streets are pretty barren of cars though

[Obsideon]

Downtown, giant fluffy flakes coating the floor.

[TopsyCrett]

Snowing really hard in Coquitlam as well

Cars can't make it up Westwood Plateau :lawl:

[pure.life]

Cars can't make it up Westwood Plateau :lawl:

I used to live there and it's a wreck. I love it there but it's not built for snow. Cars are often abandoned on Pinetree Way and there are several steep intersections you have to go through before you reach the top.

[Gh0stRider]

@ScanBC: #Vancouver Police are responding to SE Marine Dr & Kerr St for reports of people playing in the snow on the road.

[Peturbo]

Just drove the GF home. Saw a 370z stuck trying to go up boundary south of grandview hwy. Also a bus stopped in middle of road going downhill rupert street and tons of cars stuck trying to go uphill on the other side.

[Akinari]

Reports of cars spun out and on the side of Alex Fraser unable to get up the hill LOL

It's gonna be a long night.

[EvoFire]

I just took the Mini out for a drive and it's really slippery out. People that don't know how to drive and are on all seasons really have no business driving anywhere.

All seasons will not make it up a hill in the current conditions. If it was dry snow it would have been fine, but because there's a layer of salt on the ground the resulting slushy under layer is super slick.

[TOS'd]

Just came back from downtown via Kingsway, ppl driving 30 km/h and taking up over both lanes. This was around 8:30pm when there was a good 1-2 cm of snow on the ground before the plows came by. Coming home just now was faster since the pows took a pass through since then.

[SpeedStars]

tons of cars and buses spun out on fraser :lawl:. also avoid knight, there's a semi stuck there

[Gh0stRider]

https://twitter.com/NEWS1130Traffic/status/807462604620693504

[Presto]

Went out tonight to do some food shopping, and test out the winter tires. They're on their 3rd winter, and not quite as grabby compared to new, but they still destroy all-seasons, easily.

[Not really racist!]

what a gong show returning back to East Van from Richmond

Cambie via SW Marine Drive closed
Knight Street Bridge NB @ North End closed
Argyle via SW Marine Drive car accident
Victoria via SW Marine Drive closed
Elliot via SW Marine Drive multiple cars stuck
Rupert /Kerr via SW Marine Drive closed
Matheson Crescent congested af but open
Boundary via SW Marine Drive at least 10-15 cars stuck with too many unequipped people trying (lots of people backing down the hill and doing u-turns and driving down the opposite direction when there's people trying to get up????)

I guess I'm a moron for going up that way too but I was equipped and had no problems going up at a steady 40km/h, waited like 15 minutes till I had a clear path though, little poop came out multiple times because of other cars around attempting stuff

and of course my dash cam chooses to not record today

[inv4zn]

Just drove in from Kerrisdale to New West - still coming down. Highways are mostly quite clear, but the EW Connector is frozen solid so be super careful.

Oak St. SB was a shitshow because there were like 20 buses all pulled over vaguely to the right, I assume they couldn't make it down the hill. They were all trolley buses.

I took the qboro exit, but the line to Alex Fraser was a gong show. I was wondering why, now I know.

[Akinari]

White Rock roads don't get plowed, get minimally salted/brined/sanded too. Got home after work, decided to take the car out for a spin on some fresh unmolested powder since the roads were empty cause most seniors sleep at 4pm :lawl:

I was able to refresh my memory of how boring FWD cars are in the snow. Give it some gas, just torque steers to the right until it very aggressively catches grip (no hopping cause of my torque damper). Gas while turning, same thing, just plows forward until it catches grip then it throws me in whatever direction my steering wheel is pointing towards :lawl:

Was tempted to do reverse donuts but decided not to cause I'd probably end up hitting a curb or something. And pretty sure my e-brake cable needs tightening cause pulling on it while the car is moving does absolutely nothing at all, rear wheels don't even lockup in the the snow :badpokerface:

[Inaii]

Are m+s rated tires any good in this kind of snow? I'm fairly newb to driving in the snow (hence my leaving the car at work/at home), so not sure what the difference is between a m+s rated tire and a winter one.

[Gh0stRider]

VPD have shut down Boundary SB between Marine and Rumble.

[AzNightmare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwRY-4_hbwY

So this happened today... driver immediately lost traction after hitting the brakes. After reviewing the footage, I noticed that the rear wheels were spinning while the front were locked up. Can anyone explain the physics behind this, being that's a FWD car?

[inv4zn]

So this happened today... driver immediately lost traction after hitting the brakes. After reviewing the footage, I noticed that the rear wheels were spinning while the front were locked up. Can anyone explain the physics behind this, being that's a FWD car?

No rear brakes? lol. In all likelihood it probably has drums in the back and since it's FWD they were just rolling along. Fronts were locked, maybe no ABS.

Well done on your part though.

[fliptuner]

It's not about being FWD, it's about brake bias/rears being out of adjustment. If that dumbass knew how to modulate his brakes, he'd be able to steer.

[inv4zn]

Are m+s rated tires any good in this kind of snow? I'm fairly newb to driving in the snow (hence my leaving the car at work/at home), so not sure what the difference is between a m+s rated tire and a winter one.

All season - hamburger
All season M+S - cheeseburger
Winter - Quarter pounder w/ cheese

I drove through Monday's storm on M+S all seasons, and they did rather well. Little to no slipping, went up hills fine, stopped fine. Much better than I expected (tires are for sale btw :P).

Then Wednesday I got X-ice3s and the difference is very noticeable.

TL;DR - they're better than regular All Seasons, but Winters are in a different league.

[Nlkko]

Are m+s rated tires any good in this kind of snow? I'm fairly newb to driving in the snow (hence my leaving the car at work/at home), so not sure what the difference is between a m+s rated tire and a winter one.

M+S you can drive on salted roads fine. Most major roads like Broadway will be salted very well. You will have problem on unsalted local streets & back alley.

[snowball]

Are m+s rated tires any good in this kind of snow? I'm fairly newb to driving in the snow (hence my leaving the car at work/at home), so not sure what the difference is between a m+s rated tire and a winter one.

Depends on the car, I'm running M+S right now with AWD, haven't gotten stuck and turns and stops okay if you're driving carefully.

I was more confident in my FWD with winter tires however. They were much better at turning and stopping. Felt like I could stop on a dime.

[fishCak3s]

I left work at 3pm, it took me roughly 45 minutes to get from my work to the Marine Way and Byrne road light (which normally takes me 1 minute). Then it took me another 20 minutes from Marine/Byrne to the lights at 20th st and 10th ave. But once I got past 20th st and 10th ave, it was all smooth with normal traffic.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Spent an hour on the back roads of Aldergrove seeking a challenge for my Tracker. There were plenty of other people doing the same thing.
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[NKC ONE]

Sorry if it's been covered before but is M+S ok for sea to sky? Got a Whistler trip on monday and I just got back from a 2 week Asia trip. Kinda hard to get legit snow tires lately.

[Ch28]

All season - hamburger
All season M+S - cheeseburger
Winter - Quarter pounder w/ cheese

I drove through Monday's storm on M+S all seasons, and they did rather well. Little to no slipping, went up hills fine, stopped fine. Much better than I expected (tires are for sale btw :P).

Then Wednesday I got X-ice3s and the difference is very noticeable.

TL;DR - they're better than regular All Seasons, but Winters are in a different league.

I had the regular all-season tires that came with my Honda Fit and noticed a significant difference when I switched to my current Yokohama ice guard IG20's. The difference is night and day.

[!LittleDragon]

I left work at 4 and got from North Vancouver to Killarney/Fraserview in 30 mins. Traffic was actually better than on a good day... lol

Just using DWS-06 with AWD and I did fine. There was some slippage from a stop if I wasn't using the car's Snow mode but I was expecting that from a 5.0L. I was taking the side streets on Monday to avoid waiting in traffic and there was no problems at all.

One thing I noticed was it was difficult to go slow in fresh snow, it's not smooth. My old Sonata with snow tires would just cut through the fresh snow. The current car with 275 width tires kinda float on top of the snow but then would sink into it. More noticeable in parking lots but on streets where I can go 15-20kph, it's fast enough to not sink unless I need to stop.

[JSALES]

Drove from Vancouver to new west earlier and took rumble because boundary was closed and I was fine driving my winter beater, even had some fun in an empty parking lot after lol

[thumper]

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this was around 2pm yesterday for me. all i could hear was the sound of spinning tires and coworkers evacuating the building lol. you could see the wall of snow coming in from over the valley from the east. i had to make the call and bail out out from work and take the no pay leave rather than spending the night trapped in surrey again like last monday and made a run for it... still, it took me 2 hours to get home on what normally would be a 40-50min commute.

[flagella]

Geez... every place is out of snow shovel. I get that there is immediate demand but it was forecasted a week ahead and you'd think these shops would stock them up to drive some sales. What a fucking joke.

Anybody knows any other places to get snow shovels in Coq area? As of last night CT, home depot, superstore, walmart are all out.

[jeedee]

Geez... every place is out of snow shovel. I get that there is immediate demand but it was forecasted a week ahead and you'd think these shops would stock them up to drive some sales. What a fucking joke.

why didn't you buy it a week beforehand if it was forecasted a week ahead then?

:troll:

[Gumby]

Geez... every place is out of snow shovel. I get that there is immediate demand but it was forecasted a week ahead and you'd think these shops would stock them up to drive some sales. What a fucking joke.

Anybody knows any other places to get snow shovels in Coq area? As of last night CT, home depot, superstore, walmart are all out.
And why didn't you get a shovel when snow was first forecasted? :troll:

Edit: lol, jeedee

[Lomac]

Any time I've used a rental vehicle in the winter ie Budget, they didn't have vehicles with snow tires. I haven't rented in almost a decade so perhaps that has changed.

Rental companies have vehicles equipped with snow tires, though you usually have to request them in advance in locations in the GVRD. Shops like up the ones up here will usually have a full fleet equipped with them since it's required by law to run them on the highways here.

Geez... every place is out of snow shovel. I get that there is immediate demand but it was forecasted a week ahead and you'd think these shops would stock them up to drive some sales. What a fucking joke.

Anybody knows any other places to get snow shovels in Coq area? As of last night CT, home depot, superstore, walmart are all out.

FYI, shipments usually take more than a week to be ordered, picked, shipped and received by most well running companies, especially large bulk orders for something that usually isn't needed most years.

[flagella]

why didn't you buy it a week beforehand if it was forecasted a week ahead then?

:troll:

Didn't expect the inventory system here in BC stores to be equivalent to that of third world country. Oh, and to answer your question, I have no obligation to shovel as there is no sidewalk in front of my house, which is why there was no "need" for me to purchase one. I just feel like doing some shoveling now for some exercise.

[Lomac]

Didn't expect the inventory system here in BC stores to be equivalent to that of third world country.

Stores here in Kamloops have plenty of stock for shovels and ice melt, but that's because we get a ton of snow every year and, well, we are prepared ahead of time.

Come up this way if you're still in need of either. ;)



Sorry, dude. From both a logistics and inventory forecast POV, it doesn't make financial sense. And from a personal viewpoint, you should have been prepared ahead of time.

[supafamous]

Are m+s rated tires any good in this kind of snow? I'm fairly newb to driving in the snow (hence my leaving the car at work/at home), so not sure what the difference is between a m+s rated tire and a winter one.

M+S means nothing and are almost any ice nearby which is what happens off any main road. Also useless around more than an inch of slush.

[TopsyCrett]

M+S means nothing and are almost any ice nearby which is what happens off any main road. Also useless around more than an inch of slush.

Not true. Depends on the tire. If it is a eco-rolling costco Michelin special, yes probably useless. My dad has Bridgestone duelers M+S on a Mazda CX-9 and they barely do the trick.
I've had good experience with Michelin Pilot Sport AS2's, and Michelin Hydro edge's. My current PS AS3's are pretty useless in the snow on my bmw this year however.

My Hankook Dynapro A/T M's are killing it. Tosses the slush to the side and Have been able to emergency coming down Westwood Plateau at 50 km/h with no drama.

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This was up at Eagle mountain in Coquitlam, you can see the ass mark where I fell (near rear left tire Lol) there is an inch of Ice and it made it up no problem.

[flagella]

Stores here in Kamloops have plenty of stock for shovels and ice melt, but that's because we get a ton of snow every year and, well, we are prepared ahead of time.

Come up this way if you're still in need of either. ;)



Sorry, dude. From both a logistics and inventory forecast POV, it doesn't make financial sense. And from a personal viewpoint, you should have been prepared ahead of time.

It absolutely makes financial sense. You speaking from experience? Also, I didn't need to prepare if you had followed what I said. My preparation was done when I got winter tires put on my car.

[MG1]

Geez... every place is out of snow shovel. I get that there is immediate demand but it was forecasted a week ahead and you'd think these shops would stock them up to drive some sales. What a fucking joke.

Anybody knows any other places to get snow shovels in Coq area? As of last night CT, home depot, superstore, walmart are all out.


Give Princess Auto a call. They may have some.

[jeedee]

Didn't expect the inventory system here in BC stores to be equivalent to that of third world country. Oh, and to answer your question, I have no obligation to shovel as there is no sidewalk in front of my house, which is why there was no "need" for me to purchase one. I just feel like doing some shoveling now for some exercise.

You do realize that unless you're buying shovels from a warehouse locally, stores need to place an order from their supplier right?

A shipment that normally takes a week (on good sunny weather) gets pushed back / delayed further because of worse conditions from suppliers in Calgary/Ontario.

Can't blame the stores if you and others are trying to buy it the day/moment the snow is happening if you had the week/previous winters to prepare for it :troll:

[Lomac]

It absolutely makes financial sense. You speaking from experience?

Yes, actually. A buyer/category specialist isn't going to watch the weather for every city around the country. They look at sales records for past years, particularly for seasonal items. If stores in a certain district only moved an average of 500 units between them all in Period 11 over the past two years, they're going to make sure their on hands will match that for the current year. No point in ordering excess stock and have it sit around in the warehouse collecting dust if previous sales don't support it.

Now, long range forecasts are notoriously incorrect, especially in the GVRD. If a store manager of a particular store wanted extra stock just in case, then Home Office can redirect a portion of their backup stock in a local distribution warehouse to said store. Now, if all the stores started clamoring for extra stock, then it would likely have to come from a warehouse not local to the area (remember, no point stocking excess product that historically doesn't sell well in the area.) This means pulling from somewhere Eastwards of the Rocky Mountains. That means you're looking at extra shipping days, not including the time needed to pull the stock, tack them onto each store's regular shipments (or, more likely, create an emergency shipment order and incur the unexpected shipping fees), and then send out the trailers. Oh, and hope that there are no road closures or rail delays (which, being that time of year, is an absolute guarantee... Roger's Pass? Crow's Nest? Coquihalla Summit? Helmer's Lake? Yeah, they all have accidents this time of year, which delays truck shipments.) Sure, you can ship it all air, but that costs a fucking fortune for bulk items.

Remember, this all has to be done days in advance while working solely off of a long range forecast for Vancouver. What happens if two days before the alleged snowfall happens, the forecast changes to +2* and rain? Then all of that extra work, costs, and stock would have been for naught.

See what I'm saying? Yes, I've done this shit before.


Also, I didn't need to prepare if you had followed what I said. My preparation was done when I got winter tires put on my car.

If your prep work was done solely by putting on winter tires, then why are you bitching about snow shovels being sold out of local stores?

My prep work for winter is putting on my snow tires, making sure my snow shovels are still in good condition, bulking up on ice melt and sand, and ensuring my emergency bag in the trunk is up to date and modified with winter gear.

Just sayin'.

[Gh0stRider]

Alex Fraser bridge closed in both directions due to falling snow and ice

[Acura604]

snow falling again... almost bottoming out the RDX... damn....:troll:

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[Verdasco]

no SNOW IN richmond but UBC has lots of snow i heard

[Jmac]

Yes, actually. A buyer/category specialist isn't going to watch the weather for every city around the country. They look at sales records for past years, particularly for seasonal items. If stores in a certain district only moved an average of 500 units between them all in Period 11 over the past two years, they're going to make sure their on hands will match that for the current year. No point in ordering excess stock and have it sit around in the warehouse collecting dust if previous sales don't support it.

Now, long range forecasts are notoriously incorrect, especially in the GVRD. If a store manager of a particular store wanted extra stock just in case, then Home Office can redirect a portion of their backup stock in a local distribution warehouse to said store. Now, if all the stores started clamoring for extra stock, then it would likely have to come from a warehouse not local to the area (remember, no point stocking excess product that historically doesn't sell well in the area.) This means pulling from somewhere Eastwards of the Rocky Mountains. That means you're looking at extra shipping days, not including the time needed to pull the stock, tack them onto each store's regular shipments (or, more likely, create an emergency shipment order and incur the unexpected shipping fees), and then send out the trailers. Oh, and hope that there are no road closures or rail delays (which, being that time of year, is an absolute guarantee... Roger's Pass? Crow's Nest? Coquihalla Summit? Helmer's Lake? Yeah, they all have accidents this time of year, which delays truck shipments.) Sure, you can ship it all air, but that costs a fucking fortune for bulk items.

Remember, this all has to be done days in advance while working solely off of a long range forecast for Vancouver. What happens if two days before the alleged snowfall happens, the forecast changes to +2* and rain? Then all of that extra work, costs, and stock would have been for naught.

See what I'm saying? Yes, I've done this shit before.




If your prep work was done solely by putting on winter tires, then why are you bitching about snow shovels being sold out of local stores?

My prep work for winter is putting on my snow tires, making sure my snow shovels are still in good condition, bulking up on ice melt and sand, and ensuring my emergency bag in the trunk is up to date and modified with winter gear.

Just sayin'.
To play devil's advocate here, the last 2 years were strong el nino years, which means typically well above seasonal average temperatures (little chance of snow) for the Vancouver region (which is exactly what happened). This year being a la nina year, with below seasonal average temperatures, has a significantly higher chance of snow and ice compared to average, let alone the past 2 years.

Should companies not take things like this into account, considering this is predicted months in advance and is generally accurate (for the season as a whole, not on a day-to-day or week-to-week basis)?

The last la nina winters we had were: '11-'12, '10-'11, and '07-'08. You'd hope they'd compare demand from those years mixed in with some ENSO neutral years to determine stock levels in the region rather than a flat average or just looking at the past 2 (extremely unseasonably warm) years.

[subordinate]

got some Michelin xi-2s with about 55-60% thread..they kind of suck in the slush..I was spinning a couple times from a stop. -___-

[Lomac]

To play devil's advocate here, the last 2 years were strong el nino years, which means typically well above seasonal average temperatures (little chance of snow) for the Vancouver region (which is exactly what happened). This year being a la nina year, with below seasonal average temperatures, has a significantly higher chance of snow and ice compared to average, let alone the past 2 years.

Should companies not take things like this into account, considering this is predicted months in advance and is generally accurate (for the season as a whole, not on a day-to-day or week-to-week basis)?

The last la nina winters we had were: '11-'12, '10-'11, and '07-'08. You'd hope they'd compare demand from those years mixed in with some ENSO neutral years to determine stock levels in the region rather than a flat average or just looking at the past 2 (extremely unseasonably warm) years.

In theory, yes. I'm sure there are calculating models for purchasing out there that can accommodate for fluctuations in years past. But putting it to actual practice is a different matter. The biggest issue is how far back systems go when it comes to inventory stock levels. At my work, even with Home Office level access, I can only see back a maximum of three years. Other companies may have different systems that can catalogue further back, but mine doesn't.

[Lowered_Klass]

Left work around 8:30 last night, and it was snowing hard out in the Ridge. Took the extra long way home into Pitt Meadows to test out the Blizzaks on the Fit. Handled the snow like a champ. I'm just happy these tires finally got to see some decent snow for once, as the last few years they haven't seen a flake :(

Oh and all this talk about snow shovels, etc, concider this lesson learned. Next year when you see that Costco has the nice snow shovels for $10, don't be a cheap fuck, and put one in your cart. Same with rock salt. Grab a bag when you don't need it, and put it away for when you do. You'll thank yourself a thousand times over when the time comes to use both.

[MG1]

Fucking city crews........... my nicely shoveled sidewalk is now completely piled up with twice as much snow. And the shit is damn heavy.

I'm at Princess Auto looking for a 240 volt heater for the garage. Took the Smart for Two Electric Drive. I have Conti Contact winter tires on it and it is very good on snow, slush and ice. RWD, btw.

[punkwax]

Fist sized snowflakes falling around Softball City in S Surrey. As soon as you get a littler closer to the ocean, turns to rain.

[fliptuner]

Oh and all this talk about snow shovels, etc, concider this lesson learned. Next year when you see that Costco has the nice snow shovels for $10, don't be a cheap fuck, and put one in your cart. Same with rock salt. Grab a bag when you don't need it, and put it away for when you do. You'll thank yourself a thousand times over when the time comes to use both.

Exactly. It's not like you're never going to use them or they go bad. Also, if you're into buying used snow tires, buy them in spring/summer. Usually, there are good deals.

[flagella]

In theory, yes. I'm sure there are calculating models for purchasing out there that can accommodate for fluctuations in years past. But putting it to actual practice is a different matter. The biggest issue is how far back systems go when it comes to inventory stock levels. At my work, even with Home Office level access, I can only see back a maximum of three years. Other companies may have different systems that can catalogue further back, but mine doesn't.

So to summarize what you've said in your previous post and this post, the system is backward looking with no forecasting models built into it other than looking at the weather forecast. Even then it's useless because hey, weather forecast can be inaccurate, so why bother factor it into the inventory level. This is such a pathetic model compared to the models energy trading industry uses. How about taking into account of the sheer number of houses that have been sold just in the past year? Not just the existing houses but all the new development? The answer people inevitably get is always "this is how we have done it in the past." Retail industry is so behind in these types of analysis that no wonder it's been shrinking in the past. Just a matter of time before it is pretty much eliminated.

[Lomac]

So to summarize what you've said in your previous post and this post, the system is backward looking with no forecasting models built into it other than looking at the weather forecast. Even then it's useless because hey, weather forecast can be inaccurate, so why bother factor it into the inventory level. This is such a pathetic model compared to the models energy trading industry uses. How about taking into account of the sheer number of houses that have been sold just in the past year? Not just the existing houses but all the new development? The answer people inevitably get is always "this is how we have done it in the past." Retail industry is so behind in these types of analysis that no wonder it's been shrinking in the past. Just a matter of time before it is pretty much eliminated.

Meh. My company doesn't need much in the way of forecasting because we typically don't have seasonal sales, so sales history from a decade ago isn't necessary. I'm sure places like Canadian Tire and Home Depot have a different purchasing system than ours because their sales model is different.

Either way, you asked and I gave you an answer. They've been talking about La Nina for months now. Should have purchased that snow shovel long before this weekend. ;)

[MG1]

^then there are people like me who have half a dozen snow shovels, ten bags of salt, and three ice scrapers, gulololol.

[roastpuff]

Sorry if it's been covered before but is M+S ok for sea to sky? Got a Whistler trip on monday and I just got back from a 2 week Asia trip. Kinda hard to get legit snow tires lately.

It's technically/legally OK, but depends on how good you are at driving in the snow and how clear the roads are. If there is any snow on the ground, you're taking your safety into your own hands.

Though, they tend to plow/salt the 99 decently. But I still see stuck drivers fairly often.

[Simplex123]

Are taxis required to have snow tires on during the winter? Because I see that they are either ripping through the traffic or going 30-40km/h

[flagella]

Meh. My company doesn't need much in the way of forecasting because we typically don't have seasonal sales, so sales history from a decade ago isn't necessary. I'm sure places like Canadian Tire and Home Depot have a different purchasing system than ours because their sales model is different.

Either way, you asked and I gave you an answer. They've been talking about La Nina for months now. Should have purchased that snow shovel long before this weekend. ;)

Not sure why you keep telling me that I should've bought a shovel when right off the bat I already mentioned that there was no need for me to buy one. I get out of my driveway fine without any issue with snow tires. I'd rather have some coffee at home and watch a movie than shoveling outside unless there is a sidewalk outside my home requires me to do so.

I'm bitching at how pathetic the local stores are in forecasting the demand, and how behind the industry you are in in terms of technology. I suppose that pushed your button? By your logic Lomac, if everyone had prepared a week in advance, the demand would still have not been accommodated because the shovels would've run out a week ago. You might as well be bitching and saying well then people should've bought snow shovels in summer in anticipation of the winter so that the demand would've not spiked so much. The truth is, I don't think you realize that there are way more things out there that are much harder to forecast, and there are models built to do a fine job at it. Now, how your company has operated is none of my business. A company can continue to do stupid things and remain status quo if there is a lack of competition. But it makes complete financial sense to be able to accurately predict demand spike, particularly in seasonal items.

[Lomac]

Not sure why you keep telling me that I should've bought a shovel when right off the bat I already mentioned that there was no need for me to buy one. I get out of my driveway fine without any issue with snow tires. I'd rather have some coffee at home and watch a movie than shoveling outside unless there is a sidewalk outside my home requires me to do so.

Geez... every place is out of snow shovel. I get that there is immediate demand but it was forecasted a week ahead and you'd think these shops would stock them up to drive some sales. What a fucking joke.

Anybody knows any other places to get snow shovels in Coq area? As of last night CT, home depot, superstore, walmart are all out.

:pokerface:

Pretty sure it was a safe assumption that you were trying to source one for yourself.

I'm bitching at how pathetic the local stores are in forecasting the demand, and how behind the industry you are in in terms of technology. I suppose that pushed your button? By your logic Lomac, if everyone had prepared a week in advance, the demand would still have not been accommodated because the shovels would've run out a week ago. You might as well be bitching and saying well then people should've bought snow shovels in summer in anticipation of the winter so that the demand would've not spiked so much. The truth is, I don't think you realize that there are way more things out there that are much harder to forecast, and there are models built to do a fine job at it. Now, how your company has operated is none of my business. A company can continue to do stupid things and remain status quo if there is a lack of competition. But it makes complete financial sense to be able to accurately predict demand spike, particularly in seasonal items.

:lol Nope, no buttons pushed. What I do for work is merely a job and paycheque, especially since I'm currently in school for a completely different industry. Again, you asked a question and I answered.

[flagella]

Appreciate the answer though. Just further confirmed how behind it is and I sure hope it's your temporary job. It did surprise me, however, how you managed to spew that it makes no financial sense to do it. I hope you don't carry that sort of backward thinking into your future jobs, whatever they may be. Local shops don't bother doing it because they will survive without doing so. It isn't because it makes no financial sense to do it :rofl:

[AzNightmare]

Seems like it greatly varies on the location... "Snow" has been a joke in Vancouver. Been mostly rain. Sure, there's some snow here and there, but everything's slush on the inside streets, and main roads are completely cleared, as if it was any other rainy day.

[AzNightmare]

I'm at Princess Auto looking for a 240 volt heater for the garage. Took the Smart for Two Electric Drive. I have Conti Contact winter tires on it and it is very good on snow, slush and ice. RWD, btw.

Smart car is like a MR/RR though. All the weight is over the rear wheels anyway.

[AzNightmare]

Appreciate the answer though. Just further confirmed how behind it is and I sure hope it's your temporary job. It did surprise me, however, how you managed to spew that it makes no financial sense to do it. I hope you don't carry that sort of backward thinking into your future jobs, whatever they may be. Local shops don't bother doing it because they will survive without doing so. It isn't because it makes no financial sense to do it :rofl:

Maybe those stores felt they lose a lot in overstocking more so than having shortages. Because in the end, customers are going to buy from them anyway, just a week later when they get a new shipment. Yeah, I think it's kind of dumb that I can't get my salt, and others are bitching how snow shovels and winter tires are sold out. But I think most people buy on a need it basis rather than prepare weeks ahead of time. Same with the heatwave and AC situation last summer.

It's a silly system that stores don't have enough stock, but I'm just glad the wait time isn't too long, and at the end of the day, it's my fault for not having a shovel, salt, or winter tires, etc cause I got beat out by quicker customers.

Over the past few years though, I'm impressed at how Home Depot and CT have been keeping their inventory count fairly accurate on their website. And they even display which aisle at the store they keep the item so that I can just go in and out of the store quickly.

[Klondike]

All season - hamburger
All season M+S - cheeseburger
Winter - Quarter pounder w/ cheese

I drove through Monday's storm on M+S all seasons, and they did rather well. Little to no slipping, went up hills fine, stopped fine. Much better than I expected (tires are for sale btw :P).

Then Wednesday I got X-ice3s and the difference is very noticeable.

TL;DR - they're better than regular All Seasons, but Winters are in a different league.

Great, now I'm hungry :/

[SoNaRWaVe]

i would just assume that stores have an actual number based on previous year or 2 of sales of a particular item and based on that, have a projection number that it will sell and keep that amount in the store.

to add in watching the weather, keep an eye on forecasting, make sure if its nino or nina and all that stuff was said, i doubt stores have that type of complexity or willing to pay that kind of dough out. i mean if the store manager was really keen, then maybe they might order extras. other than that, its just another paycheque.

[DragonChi]

I was say that relying on la nina and el nino years is not a reliable way of predicting weather, when the risk comes down to having over ordered or planned for product. It would make more sense to let the snowfall happen first, then when the demand is there, make orders for snow related products. IMO.

Knowing which years were El Nino, or La Nina, are completely different when looking back, compared to trying to predict them.

[godwin]

That's why Amazon exists. Data is their bread and butter.. I won't be surprised if they will sell subscription of their forecasts to retailers in the future.

i would just assume that stores have an actual number based on previous year or 2 of sales of a particular item and based on that, have a projection number that it will sell and keep that amount in the store.

to add in watching the weather, keep an eye on forecasting, make sure if its nino or nina and all that stuff was said, i doubt stores have that type of complexity or willing to pay that kind of dough out. i mean if the store manager was really keen, then maybe they might order extras. other than that, its just another paycheque.

[threezero]

^ this, Amazon not so secret weapon.

[snowball]

Seems like it greatly varies on the location... "Snow" has been a joke in Vancouver. Been mostly rain. Sure, there's some snow here and there, but everything's slush on the inside streets, and main roads are completely cleared, as if it was any other rainy day.

Which part of Vancouver are you in? Downtown? Cause all the side streets in east van i've driven through is covered 3" thick ice and snow.

[MG1]

Smart car is like a MR/RR though. All the weight is over the rear wheels anyway.

Not the Electric Version..........

[Bouncing Bettys]

My Beetle is RR. Great going up hills in a straight line, but turning is a bit tricky as it just wants to plow straight. With just 55 hp you can induce oversteer to get the car turnig without getting too crazy like a FR. Once you let off the gas, the weight of the engine gets the rear wheels back giving traction.

[MG1]

I thought I had the regenerative brakes all figured out, but in the snow, it helps a lot going downhill. No gears on an EV. With soft start and hill assist, it's actually very nice. As long as tires are good. I wasn't sure about the Continentals, but they're the only kind that'll fit the Smart for Two, because, staggered wheel/tire sizes. I am pleasantly surprised with the grip on ice.

[whitev70r]

I think we're done in Metro Vancouver, right?

[Akinari]

I think we're done in Metro Vancouver, right?
Yeah beautiful sun is coming, time to wash the salt off the cars :badpokerface:

[MelonBoy]

Are taxis required to have snow tires on during the winter? Because I see that they are either ripping through the traffic or going 30-40km/h

Don't think so. Its in their best interest to though.. The car is their life line. Don't see why they would risk getting into a accident. Snow tires would help with mileage too.

Which part of Vancouver are you in? Downtown? Cause all the side streets in east van i've driven through is covered 3" thick ice and snow.

All main roads from downtown to east van to richmond are clear. Tbh most side roads (aside from hills) in east van are clear enough to drive too (I live around Boundary/kingsways)

Most of the "snow" from yesterday night didnt stick. It was very wet on and off. Even earlier today it was mainly wet snow/rain

[SkunkWorks]

I'm bitching at how pathetic the local stores are in forecasting the demand, and how behind the industry you are in in terms of technology. I suppose that pushed your button? By your logic Lomac, if everyone had prepared a week in advance, the demand would still have not been accommodated because the shovels would've run out a week ago. You might as well be bitching and saying well then people should've bought snow shovels in summer in anticipation of the winter so that the demand would've not spiked so much. The truth is, I don't think you realize that there are way more things out there that are much harder to forecast, and there are models built to do a fine job at it. Now, how your company has operated is none of my business. A company can continue to do stupid things and remain status quo if there is a lack of competition. But it makes complete financial sense to be able to accurately predict demand spike, particularly in seasonal items.

... Looks like flagella was able stock up on salt at least.

:lawl:

[Gumby]

... Looks like flagella was able stock up on salt at least.

:lawl:
Logged in just to thank your post! :)

[AzNightmare]

Not the Electric Version..........

http://altmob.com/images/Pictures/2013/Q1/smart_ED_cutaway.jpg

I guess the electric motor isn't as heavy as your typical motor, and maybe the heaviest thing in the car is in the middle where the battery is. But still better than your typical Front engine RWD, lol.


Which part of Vancouver are you in? Downtown? Cause all the side streets in east van i've driven through is covered 3" thick ice and snow.

South Van, but I drove to BCIT area in Burnaby in the morning. Main roads were wet, maybe a bit of slush in certain spots, but generally nothing too much. Fresh snow was piled up on the side if you pull over to park.

Inside streets were slush to very little amount of snow. I could see the concrete penetrate through where tires have driven over.

That's my observation anyway. Kind of crazy to imagine there's still 3" of ice and snow in Vancouver, unless those inside streets are very secluded and haven't been driven on very much.

[Manic!]

Driving on the Fraser highway at night and there is a car pulled over on the side of the road. About a half a tire is on the road no problem. But here is where it gets stupid. The Asian girl who was driving it is standing beside the drivers side door on her phone. Cars are hitting there brakes and swerving so the don't hit her and she is standing in the middle of the road like nothing is wrong. I have to slam my brakes because there is another car beside me. I honk the horn and does nothing. except give me this blank look. WTF?

[MG1]

http://altmob.com/images/Pictures/2013/Q1/smart_ED_cutaway.jpg

I guess the electric motor isn't as heavy as your typical motor, and maybe the heaviest thing in the car is in the middle where the battery is. But still better than your typical Front engine RWD, lol.

Also, take into consideration the driver. Even a skinny Asian kid would weigh more than the engine........... wait. I take that back. The rage boy with hockey stick. Gulolol.

[MG1]

Driving on the Fraser highway at night and there is a car pulled over on the side of the road. About a half a tire is on the road no problem. But here is where it gets stupid. The Asian girl who was driving it is standing beside the drivers side door on her phone. Cars are hitting there brakes and swerving so the don't hit her and she is standing in the middle of the road like nothing is wrong. I have to slam my brakes because there is another car beside me. I honk the horn and does nothing. except give me this blank look. WTF?

It's called asian caught in headlights.................


........... oh, deer!


Some asian chicks are dumber than a mannequin at a wax museum.

[Ch28]

... Looks like flagella was able stock up on salt at least.

:lawl:

http://i.imgur.com/YqSUirR.gif

[frozen]

Appreciate the answer though. Just further confirmed how behind it is and I sure hope it's your temporary job. It did surprise me, however, how you managed to spew that it makes no financial sense to do it. I hope you don't carry that sort of backward thinking into your future jobs, whatever they may be. Local shops don't bother doing it because they will survive without doing so. It isn't because it makes no financial sense to do it :rofl:

Gotta be sensitive what you say here. You would be surprised how many on this board are sustained by the 14 dolla balla jobs provided by the dying industry so they can continue to afford their car payments and go to school part-time. In the end, you can't expect much from this glorified tourist city with large retail presence. While we haven't created any companies worthy of note globally other than the nature that was given to us, our southern neighbor Seattle a few hours away is the birth place of companies including Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, Costco, Starbucks, etc. Something had gone deeply wrong here but the pride is strong at least.

[Zedbra]

Squamish snow update - we've had over 12" the last few days and it is still lightly snowing here. The S2S highway is not in good shape, with heavy snow pack and very slippery conditions.

[TOS'd]

I did the S2S yesterday, 6am up (took about 2 hours) and 430pm down (took about 2.5 hrs).

Wasn't too bad since it was generally plowed, and then light snow over again. Lines don't exist anymore(for certain sections, mainly north of Squamish), everyone follows the plowed lanes, which sometimes cuts into the passing lane. Be careful when passing in the passing lane, as it's usually not plowed and people move into them without any notice.

On my way down last night, there was a section that was two lanes SB and one NB. I, along with a lot of other ppl were in the passing lane, and this guy going NB took our lane(not sure if he realized or not). Thankfully it was far enough down that everyone in the passing lane was able to merge to the right lane. The guy going NB finally passes the single lane NB traffic and then merges back to the proper lane, but he starts fish tailing in a large domestic SUV. He managed to get it under control, but it took two lane widths to do it. And all of us in the passing lane SB were smart enough to get out of it. Probably would have shut down the S2S for awhile.

[xxxrsxxx]

Anyone know where salt is available today.

[MG1]

Not today, but if you can wait, Home Depot will have a shipment of salt from Alberta sometime tomollow morning.

[Gh0stRider]

https://s17.postimg.org/bjk8we2jz/IMG_20161211_135326.jpg

This afternoon in Coquitlam.

Some of the cars are fucked lol. Good luck digging yourself out.

[fliptuner]

I'm guessing that's north of David cause maillardville is pretty clear.

[thumper]

is this citadel heights area? or behind coquitlam centre?

[Gh0stRider]

Parkway Blvd

[GS8]

Gotta be sensitive what you say here. You would be surprised how many on this board are sustained by the 14 dolla balla jobs provided by the dying industry so they can continue to afford their car payments and go to school part-time. In the end, you can't expect much from this glorified tourist city with large retail presence. While we haven't created any companies worthy of note globally other than the nature that was given to us, our southern neighbor Seattle a few hours away is the birth place of companies including Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, Costco, Starbucks, etc. Something had gone deeply wrong here but the pride is strong at least.

Vancouver has Hootsuite which is highly regarded in the social media universe. They are in the process of restructuring, possibly prepping for an IPO.

Hey, it's one company at least :badpokerface:

On topic:

I guess anything buried in snow will be fucked for over the next week, given the crazy temps we'll be having.

[hud 91gt]

Don't forget LuLu

[punkwax]

Wow that Coquitlam pic. Snow completely melted in my neighbourhood. No shovelling! :buttrock:

[Gh0stRider]

I talked to the residents up where i took that photo.

One guy said "We are taking a beating up here. I've been out here since 8AM!"

[EvoFire]

Gotta be sensitive what you say here. You would be surprised how many on this board are sustained by the 14 dolla balla jobs provided by the dying industry so they can continue to afford their car payments and go to school part-time. In the end, you can't expect much from this glorified tourist city with large retail presence. While we haven't created any companies worthy of note globally other than the nature that was given to us, our southern neighbor Seattle a few hours away is the birth place of companies including Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, Costco, Starbucks, etc. Something had gone deeply wrong here but the pride is strong at least.

Vancouver has Hootsuite which is highly regarded in the social media universe. They are in the process of restructuring, possibly prepping for an IPO.

Hey, it's one company at least :badpokerface:

On topic:

I guess anything buried in snow will be fucked for over the next week, given the crazy temps we'll be having.

Don't forget LuLu

There are a lot companies based in Vancouver who are successful, but because they work behind the scenes in their respective industries you wouldn't even know it if they were right next door.

I'm kind of glad the rain washed some of the snow away cause once the deep freeze hits, we are would be fucked. And then there are the poo Coquitlam folks who got the dump today.

[Gh0stRider]

@NEWS1130: BREAKING: Environment Canada has issued a #SnowfallWarning for Metro Vancouver. 5-10 cm expected. Reduced visibility in heavy snow at times.

[fliptuner]

Snowing by Riverview

[HonestTea]

Snowfall warning...

[Presto]

Snowing, and sticking to the roads in in Langley.

[G]

Snowing in Coq, not sticking yet

[TopsyCrett]

Snowing, and sticking to the roads in in Langley.

Have an exam at KPU Langley tomorrow... Please keep snowing!!!! :awwyeah:

[Gucci Mane]

Have an exam at KPU Langley tomorrow... Please keep snowing!!!! :awwyeah:

i have to head out that way for work tomorrow. :rukidding:

[v_tec]

Apparently it's snowing hard in South Burnaby?

Nothing in North Burnaby :pokerface:

[Ch28]

Snowing in East Van and it's sticking on the cars now

[JSALES]

YAASS MORE SNOW :)

[saveth]

Just drove from cypress into surrey and it was dumping snow on my whole drive home.

[i-vtecyo]

Snow fall warning came out right when it started to snow.. So much of a warning..

[bossha]

it sa fucking blizzard in richmond holy shit

[dabbin]

Wow that Coquitlam pic. Snow completely melted in my neighbourhood. No shovelling! :buttrock:

That's on the hill (the plateau). Lived there in '06 (?) during the INSANE snow. City sent a backhoe to dig our street out (after the plows got stuck trying to get in.), seen guys with pick up trucks, 4x4 with chains and a box full of snow get stuck and stay home from work (as well as various mercedes/lexus in front yards/front of houses).

There was 6" near coquitlam center, about 2 feet on the hill that year. I imagine it is similar now, that hill will always look bad during snowfall.

[cho]

http://i.imgur.com/Gm2h94d.jpg

was just raining when i was leaving work (downtown), by the time i got to east van, snow galore

drive safe everybody

[godwin]

Find a big enough parking lot and practice your winter maneuver skills (not hooning).

In Vancouver, the parking lot at Rupert and 1st should be relatively snow laden. It also have a gentle slope so you can practice both up hill and down hill.. (just watch out for stumps left behind by the city). It would be helpful to do a walk around first to see where the curbs / stumps are.

Try the car with ESC off first, then ESC on to see the car's dynamic envelope.

You should get a feel on sliding, sudden and steady braking. Throttle modulation needed to get the car in motion. Practice makes perfect.

The key to good winter driving is to have just enough momentum and plenty of space so you can move without braking or extra gas. Also how to react when the car momentum suddenly swings. That takes practice and the limit is different for each model (like it or not automatics are easier). Winter tires, make that sweet spot, more consistent and easier to find.

[Gh0stRider]

My st is covered,time to hoon

[thumper]

dumping where i am in north bby. but at least the plow came... just in time to bury my car but hey they actually came this time!

[IMASA]

No drama on the way to work, from south richmond to Oak and 25th area. Light snow in Richmond, wet snow in Vancouver. Lots of people driving slow. I was the stereotypical asshole in the SUV with winter tires passing everyone, though I was only travelling 10km/h over the speed limit, the people slowing everyone else down were accelerating very slowly and driving 10 below the limit.

[MarkyMark]

You realize you can be ticketed for going the "Speed Limit" in bad conditions right?

[flagella]

Gotta be sensitive what you say here. You would be surprised how many on this board are sustained by the 14 dolla balla jobs provided by the dying industry so they can continue to afford their car payments and go to school part-time. In the end, you can't expect much from this glorified tourist city with large retail presence. While we haven't created any companies worthy of note globally other than the nature that was given to us, our southern neighbor Seattle a few hours away is the birth place of companies including Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, Costco, Starbucks, etc. Something had gone deeply wrong here but the pride is strong at least.

:lol couldn't have put it better myself.

[thumper]

made it in to work. only king george blvd. has been plowed and nothing else, not even the bus routes, so if you are waiting for transit good luck because i passed at least three stuck on the roads... fail.