[pastarocket]

Finally, the city of Vancouver crew is working to trim trees on my block. A tree fell down in my hood.

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[CivicBlues]

A co worker in Edmonton mentioned that their winters are much colder than what we experience here in the Lower Mainland.



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[inv4zn]

So I too was stuck in that clusterfuck on Tuesday.

Left Marine Crossing area at 4:45, took 20 minutes to get to the foot of the qboro bridge. Spent 20 minutes there while some asshole in a RWD Mercedes tried valiantly to make it up the 4% incline to the bridge. Then got onto the bridge, and spent an hour just parked mid-span.

On the other side, were 2 semis who had given up and pulled over to the right. Then a third shithead semi tried to go in the left lane, and then also got stuck. They spent 30 minutes reversing to clear enough room for cars to maneuver between the trucks, and then randomly a moron with shitty tires would also get stuck. At about 7:30 we moved enough for me to get off the qborough connector, picked up the wife and child from daycare, then slowly inched back towards the qboro bridge.

Saw everything from people peeing on the side of the road to assholes driving on the wrong side of the road just to end up blocking traffic going in other directions, just adding to the clusterfuck. And there were so, so many of these assholes. Many of them completely unapologetic as they block someone from going through an intersection because they're sitting squarely in the middle, facing the wrong way. Got home to Edmonds area around 1am. 8 fucking hours to do 14km.

My takeaway: the shitshow that was Tuesday was predominantly due to the snow coming down later in the afternoon, while people all went to work because the weather was nice in the morning, and with poor preparation as is every year. Then it was made significantly worse by "professional drivers" who didn't know what the fuck they were doing, compounded by selfish pricks who think somehow jumping 10 cars ahead in what is already a parking lot is somehow going to get them home sooner.

Fuck this city when it snows.

[CivicBlues]

Any wonder the "professional" drivers that can't drive in the snow are probably the same ones that can't read overpass height limit signs?

[westopher]

It’s an entitlement problem more than anything on the roads in this city.

[N.V.M.]

is this shit happening every single year now?

[Harvey Specter]

Driving this next winter will be hilarious...

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[Bouncing Bettys]

I have nothing nice to say about people who left snow on their vehicles before driving. The roads are bad enough to not have to dodge flying ice bombs and drive through near white out conditions from the unsecured load coming off their vehicles.

Laziness and not giving enough time to clear it off are the biggest reasons for it. With all the pumpkin spice drinking basics I spotted with snow on their vehicles, I have to wonder if there also an element of drivers who leave the snow on because it will look cute on their IG or makes their pavement princess truck look rugged.

[radeonboy]

Some can't even figure out how to turn on their headlights, so clearing off the snow is way too much effort for them. I swear I saw someone only clearing out the top quadrant of the driver-side windshield on Wednesday morning and left the rest untouched.

[GS8]

On Wednesday, I was waiting at a light on.a somewhat covered road. There was a new FRS beside me. The two lanes ahead merge into one. He was in the dying lane. I knew he wanted to get ahead of me as he kept inching forward.

Once the light turned green, he peeled it, only for his rear end to twerk at about 110BPM as I smoothly accelerated forward in my winter tire equipped 28 year minivan.

And then, this morning as I'm headed to work on very clear roads, I was behind this new Mercedes C Class. As soon as we start descending down a very gentle grade, the car slows to around 25km/h and holding the brake all the way to bottom.

These are the people who caused a 12 hour commute for others. But since we live in the age of deflection, they'll blame an entire system over their own mental limitations.

EDIT:

Then there's this guy...

https://youtu.be/xHFQUKJMV7c?t=55

[pastarocket]

Did anyone see any hipsters riding on their bicycles in the bike lanes during the snowfall?


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[tofu1413]

yes.

holding an umbrella too.


nice powdering going on here at kitsilano area atm.

hows everyone holding up today

[CivicBlues]

Are hipsters still a thing? Seems like many of them aged out over the past few years and are indistinguishable from the generic white guy look.

[teggy604]

Did anyone see any hipsters riding on their bicycles in the bike lanes during the snowfall?


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Saw one person. He must have felt special. The city plows the bike lanes just for him lol.

[Qmx323]

Are hipsters still a thing? Seems like many of them aged out over the past few years and are indistinguishable from the generic white guy look.

Yeah you know what you have a good point

10 years ago a beard, flannel and skinny pants were considered hipster

That's just an outfit nowadays, not attacking any flannel + skinny pants wearers here... :lol

[unit]

everyone became a hipster. the hipsters won.

[Rallydrv]

when would people learn that if they live in a house, they are responsible for shoveling snow front and side (if they live in corner) :failed:

[AzNightmare]

My takeaway: the shitshow that was Tuesday was predominantly due to the snow coming down later in the afternoon, while people all went to work because the weather was nice in the morning, and with poor preparation as is every year. Then it was made significantly worse by "professional drivers" who didn't know what the fuck they were doing, compounded by selfish pricks who think somehow jumping 10 cars ahead in what is already a parking lot is somehow going to get them home sooner.

Fuck this city when it snows.

People need to learn to look at the news forecast during the winter, especially if they're one of those fucks driving around without winter tires. If people are too stupid to pony up for winter tires and have them installed by early Nov, then at the very least, follow the news to know when snow is coming and stay the fuck home.

[Badhobz]

It’s Friday now. Is it still bad ? I checked my security cameras and it seems to be melting.

[68style]

It's fine all the major and even minor roads are relatively clear... bit icy at night... it was dusting some new snow before lunch but looks to have stopped already.

[Badhobz]

Pussy ass weather. Keep dumping you bitch. Let’s see what you got!!!! (Says this while in cancun)

[underscore]

Ok there Ted Cruz.

[inv4zn]

I want to think that people will learn, and that if they get stranded at the foot of a hill or worse slide back into somebody else due to shitty tires, they'll get winter tires the next year.

But I know they won't.

The same night I was stuck, after finally getting past the Qboro bridge, there were about 4 cars spun/stuck at the bottom of the 22nd St hill going up into Burnaby. I turn, and this guy is waving frantically at me from his clearly ill equipped Civic, telling me to turn around.

I wish he could have seen the enormity of my smugness as I made it up without problems. Continental WinterContact SI ftw.

[teggy604]

According to icbc, claims jump up 94 percent compared to the day before. Maybe it time to have a policy regarding winter tires for our roads, or you get a discount if you have winter tires.

[68style]

I'm actually surprised claims only just under doubled.

[whitev70r]

C'mon, it's one day after ... do you think that everyone who got into a crash got around to claiming the next day? I think they can monitor it this whole week as people bring their cars in as a gauge of what happened on Tues.

My guess would be like 3-4x more than usual claims just seeing reports and clips of accidents. One car rolls down the hill and crashes into 4 or 5 vehicles!

[Badhobz]

How does this work in our faultless system now ? The one who does the dinging still gets their points jacked up right ?

[Qmx323]

Their driver factor will increase if they're at fault, which used to be your discount basically

The "no-fault" system is explained a little bit here (https://warnetthallen.com/icbcs-new-no-fault-insurance/).

Seems like its pertaining to claims of against bodily injury towards the at fault party.

It also seems put together to reduce the "bump in the parking lot and come out rubbing your neck" claims lol

Reads to me like you cannot sue the at fault party for damages beyond their ICBC coverage?

[Mr.Money]

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uhhh... is fedex glitching for anyone else?... home all day. no knock ... no trucks out in this weather...

system is glitching i think.

[RiceIntegraRS]

According to icbc, claims jump up 94 percent compared to the day before. Maybe it time to have a policy regarding winter tires for our roads, or you get a discount if you have winter tires.

I think it should be law that u should atleast be running all-season or all weathers during winter time. For all the stupid shit cops give VIs for, this seems like no brainer to me.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Their driver factor will increase if they're at fault, which used to be your discount basically

The "no-fault" system is explained a little bit here (https://warnetthallen.com/icbcs-new-no-fault-insurance/).

Seems like its pertaining to claims of against bodily injury towards the at fault party.

It also seems put together to reduce the "bump in the parking lot and come out rubbing your neck" claims lol

Reads to me like you cannot sue the at fault party for damages beyond their ICBC coverage?
It's worse than that for injuries. You only receive compensation for medical expenses and lost wages from not working. ICBC is the last payer when it comes to lost wages, so you have to use up sick days, vacation, and EI before they cover up to 90%. There is no compensation for pain and suffering or quality of life. The only way you can get anything for that is for you to sue the at fault driver, and that's only if they were criminally charged like a DUI. I found this all put the hard way and have encountered so many examples of people who are shit out of luck from life-altering injuries.

[quasi]

It's worse than that for injuries. You only receive compensation for medical expenses and lost wages from not working. ICBC is the last payer when it comes to lost wages, so you have to use up sick days, vacation, and EI before they cover up to 90%. There is no compensation for pain and suffering or quality of life. The only way you can get anything for that is for you to sue the at fault driver, and that's only if they were criminally charged like a DUI. I found this all put the hard way and have encountered so many examples of people who are shit out of luck from life-altering injuries.

Yeah some parts of the system are pretty terrible, unfortunately we can thank all those people who abused the system, treated every accident like winning the lotto, exaggerated injuries and drove all our rates up to the point of being absurd.

It's unfortunate that people are going to get screwed the way the system is now.

[Badhobz]

So if I get seriously injured in a crash, and can’t work anymore in the same capacity, I can’t sue the other guy/icbc for future loss of income and future care costs ?

[MarkyMark]

Reads to me like you cannot sue the at fault party for damages beyond their ICBC coverage?

If this is true what's the point of paying for more coverage?

[hud 91gt]

My wife and her mother were both run over by a vehicle about 25 years ago on Broadway. Driver passed out (diabetes) and drove up the sidewalk, one person died a bunch injured. My wife and her mom received a total of about $10k. That’s 3k per axle that rolled over them (mom got completely run over, wife only the one axle). Not sure the laws were so great before…. Saying that, the payouts were low because they had so many payouts to cover in the incident. My wife closes her eyes to this day when driving through the area, not to mention an entire lifetime of pain to go along with it.

[twitchyzero]

wow.

not sure if it makes a difference but as a ped i try to keep at least 1m from the curb for this reason

[Qmx323]

If this is true what's the point of paying for more coverage?

From ICBC

Protection if you’re responsible for a crash​
Your Basic insurance includes $200,000 in Third Party Liability (TPL) coverage. Under Enhanced Care, the need to sue for accident benefits or vehicle damage against the driver responsible is removed, however, TPL continues to be important in certain circumstances (e.g. non-vehicle property damage or driving out of province) and can protect you in situations where the law permits the other driver to sue. If you want to increase the amount of coverage you have in the event you're responsible for a crash, you may want to consider Extended Third Party Liability coverage, an optional Autoplan product.

As of third party liability this is why you want more.

[punkwax]

wow.

not sure if it makes a difference but as a ped i try to keep at least 1m from the curb for this reason

And 500M from elementary schools.

[quasi]

And 500M from elementary schools.

Hahaha

[GLOW]

And 500M from elementary schools.

well played
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[AzNightmare]

How do you get rid of ice patches in your walkway?
I've been battling this stubborn ice patch that mysteriously only built up right at the bottom of the staircase.

Anyway, I've been putting Alaskan ice melt salt on it, waiting 15-20 mins, then breaking the ice/shovelling it away. Did a few cycles of that last night, and it seemed like the ice actually just spread even more, lol.

Maybe because the salt is melting it into water, then it's freezing again, making more ice. wtff.. I kept breaking the ice each time. Even used a rubber mallet to crack up all the ice before shoveling the pieces away. I thought all was good.

Tonight, I noticed the same area has ice again. I basically did the same thing as I did last night. This time, after I was done, I put fresh snow on the area to try to absorb up any water. And then shovel the snow away. It may have worked... but hard to tell. Cause now there's a dust of slush/snow in the area. Maybe that'll turn into ice by tomorrow.

There must be a more effective way...

[MG1]

I use spring loaded ice chopper........... similar to this one. Got it at Princess Auto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpl3uaZr_4


EDIT: I reread your post, lol. The ice is coming from somewhere. Leaking gutters? Plugged downpipes? Put down a piece of plastic or cardboard in the area and see what that does.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I just used an old garden spade and stabbed the ice until it broke.

[AzNightmare]

I use spring loaded ice chopper........... similar to this one. Got it at Princess Auto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpl3uaZr_4


EDIT: I reread your post, lol. The ice is coming from somewhere. Leaking gutters? Plugged downpipes? Put down a piece of plastic or cardboard in the area and see what that does.

No idea where's it coming from. There's no gutters near that area.
Tbh, I think the ice from today was just from the leftover water from last night after the ice melted.

That ice chopper seems handy. I'll think about getting one if the ice remains tomorrow, lolol.
Is this actually good for black ice? Or just snow/ice like in that video clip?

[whitev70r]

Just do what a see lai would do ... throw a jug of hot water at it ... :lol

[whitev70r]

Call for a Snow Summit ! :awwyeah:

Councillors in Metro Vancouver call for 'snow summit' to better prepare for snowstorms

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/metro-vancouver-councillors-snow-summit-1.6673680

[StylinRed]

It's not about being better prepared it's about actually getting off their asses and doing something bcuz they know it's coming well in advance every single year

[Zedbra]

Thick, slushy snow has been falling for a few hours on the S2S. The highway is a mess with jack knifed semis and traffic not really moving - at least from Brittania north. Not a good day to travel to Whistler.

[Badhobz]

https://curiocity.com/snow-vancouver-forecast-december-17-20/

Get ready for round 2

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[blkgsr]

ya gonna be a shitty weekend and monday

[whitev70r]

well, good thing it starts on a Sat ... non working day for most.

[AzNightmare]

Going to wfh any day there is snow reported, whether if it actually happens or not, lol.

[EvoFire]

Gonna be an awesome weekend what are you talking about? Once the snow is already on the ground ppl would not go into the office given the choice. One thing that covid is good for is now everyone has some provisioning to WFH.

[danned]

stay tune!!!
another great show coming up in port mann, alex fraser, knight, massey tunnel and more

[Gerbs]

can't wait to test out new tires!

[SkunkWorks]

Someone please check in on BIC_BAWS

[68style]

He's still in his BMW wondering when he'll ever get home, going through his contact list to see which one of his snacks does car dates

[GLOW]

stay tune!!!
another great show coming up in port mann, alex fraser, knight, massey tunnel and more

did knight street bridge get affected? i thought usually that one gets by unscathed usually

[320icar]

did knight street bridge get affected? i thought usually that one gets by unscathed usually

All those bridges were physically fine, but the massive backlog of traffic fuckednit over. IIRC for those ‘easy’ bridges only the queens borough had busses jackknifed

[quasi]

Snow makes me so sad, hope if it comes it's not a lot and it isn't here long.

[MG1]

I’m so glad we live west of the Rockies. We get a few dumps of snow here and there. Nothing like 30+cm the prairies and east are getting.

[quasi]

I’m so glad we live west of the Rockies. We get a few dumps of snow here and there. Nothing like 30+cm the prairies and east are getting.

Yup, my dad has to clear his driveway with a bob cat just so he can get to work and my niece who lives with them can get to the school bus. A few weeks ago it was -55 with windchill, I don't miss it, not one bit. If I never seen snow again for the rest of my life I'd die a happy man.

[Badhobz]

My car body is ready
https://i.postimg.cc/qMJPsvW5/Capture.jpg

[EvoFire]

I'll believe it when I see it

[Badhobz]

i havent seen bic baws on RS for a while, maybe he's still stuck on the 91?!?

[BIC_BAWS]

hobz you could just call me yenno...

or ill call you since i'll probably beat my PB of stationary time trying to merge onto the bridge next week

[Badhobz]

If you get stuck again bro, I’ll get a bicycle and bring you some hot food and drink. And a pee bottle.

Last time I was in Mexico. This time I’ll be ready.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Are there any manual car washes open in Langley/Abbotsford/Mission? None seem to be set up for all weather and they shut them down when they are needed most.

[MG1]

My son's condo has a car wash bay. So does my sister-in-law's condo. Know anyone who lives in a condo with a car wash bay? I think my son mentioned his condo had heated water.

Just a thought...........

[whitev70r]

I remember the self wash ($2 token DIY) in Royal Oak in Burnaby turned into an ice rink last year ... it was so dangerous. So many people wanted to rinse their car and the water just pooled.

[meme405]

Are there any manual car washes open in Langley/Abbotsford/Mission? None seem to be set up for all weather and they shut them down when they are needed most.

Freezing water will break almost any pipe/fittings due to the force of it as it expands when it freezes.

All the wand washes I know of in vancouver are outdoor, so their hoses/piping leading to their wands are all susceptible to freezing.

If you look at northern towns all the wand washes are inside of heated buildings. you drive through an overhead door to get inside and then wash your car. Unless you see something like that somewhere, they will likely all be closed as temperatures go below zero.

Similarly even automated car washes often dont have heat inside their booths so most of those will be closed as well (i'm thinking like the ones setup in gas stations. I'm sure Shine Auto Wash will be open still.

[Badhobz]

looks like tomorrow is the only day with some significant snowfall, the rest of the week, loooks well... weak.

[tofu1413]

boo.


I would want a huge dump of snow pls.

[Zedbra]

Wet snow all morning in Squamish, supposed to go all day and night

[EvoFire]

Of course the snow is no longer coming for 4 days in a row. Since when were Vancouver meteorologists right?

[Badhobz]

Worst. Job. Ever.

Where’s fucking snow !?!?

[winson604]

Freezing water will break almost any pipe/fittings due to the force of it as it expands when it freezes.

All the wand washes I know of in vancouver are outdoor, so their hoses/piping leading to their wands are all susceptible to freezing.

If you look at northern towns all the wand washes are inside of heated buildings. you drive through an overhead door to get inside and then wash your car. Unless you see something like that somewhere, they will likely all be closed as temperatures go below zero.

Similarly even automated car washes often dont have heat inside their booths so most of those will be closed as well (i'm thinking like the ones setup in gas stations. I'm sure Shine Auto Wash will be open still.

At least in Vancouver the Esso on Marine Dr and Fraser's carwash has been open the entire time.

[whitev70r]

Yah, sun is out, blue skies with some clouds. Good job meterologists!

[roastpuff]

There's an indoor wand wash at the Esso on North Rd in Coquitlam. It's my go-to in the winter but they do close sometimes.

[StylinRed]

Sigh never can trust our weathermen

[tegra7]

Few flakes coming down now.

[Doubl3_H]

Huge flakes right now in deep cove :woot2:

[whitev70r]

Heard thunder this morning ... just enough snow on the roads to make driving a bit challenging for those without snow tires. And still coming down steadily.

[Razor Ramon HG]

It's dumping hard in Burnaby

[supafamous]

It's dumping hard in Burnaby

This is my house in Burnaby since 6am or so. 3 inches in 2.5 hours.

https://i.imgur.com/YItljBB.jpg

[pastarocket]

-also pretty heavy snow fall in east Van now.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221218/370547153d4d4b2c808a56ab1d9ba629.jpg


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[Badhobz]

A pittance in Richmond. FeelsBadMan

[tegra7]

Just got back from Blaine their roads are an ice rink.

[Badhobz]

You call this snow !?!?! Bring it !!!!!

I’m eating at Thai son pho and there isn’t a soul in here.
https://i.postimg.cc/HkL1vc9R/2-E7-F9581-FD15-4-A0-D-B3-F6-249397-A89300.jpg

[teggy604]

^^ I actually prefer that hhaha. Roads are not bad at all.

[Qmx323]

Just enough to make people say "nah" but not enough for your tires to go "NAAHHHHH!!!"

[mikemhg]

Fuck we have tickets to Avatar 2 in Langley Imax tonight.

We're out here in Burnaby, I assume it'll be a better idea to cancel the tickets for tonight? I have a feeling the highway could be a shitshow this evening?

[StylinRed]

Likely won't be snowing by then but it'll be cold af

[MarkyMark]

It'll probably be fine. Sunday night I can't imagine too many people will be out on the roads and it should have stopped snowing by then.

[eclipseman]

-9 tomorrow. Ice rinks everywhere if you're heading to work...

[whitev70r]

Yah, there was already a layer of ice underneath this morning because it started with rain last night. Looks like this snowfall/consequences will linger for a good part of the week

[EvoFire]

There's a layer of wet dense snow underneath that's gonna freeze over starting right now. If you don't shovel right now then just leave the white fluffy stuff on top so it can provide a bit of grip.

I spent 2 hours shoveling this morning, the snow is fine, the wet under layer was so back breaking.

Then I took my son out for a drive to the store. It's actually quite drifty and fun out on the family bus. Until you realize you can't stop :pokerface:
Lot's of "what is gray car doing?" from my son as we went sideways around some corners.

[Badhobz]

who's going into work tomorrow? im calling a snow day! (good excuse)

[teggy604]

who's going into work tomorrow? im calling a snow day! (good excuse)

better off saving it for Tuesday or Thursday.

[radeonboy]

Drove the 99 between Vancouver and Delta an hour ago, saw two cars in the ditch, 1 car flipped over, and the truck behind me fishtailing (and thankfully recovered).

Stay safe out there if you're driving!

[Traum]

who's going into work tomorrow? im calling a snow day! (good excuse)
With WFH, snow days isn't available anymore.

[supafamous]

I was on highway 1 between Gaglardi and Willingdon this afternoon and it's basically packed ice with a light dusting of snow. Gonna be an adventure for anyone out there tomorrow. I'm surprised there weren't cars in the ditch considering how fast some of the cars were going.

[JSALES]

https://i.postimg.cc/q7MYvzrp/B01-A889-F-420-D-4-A03-A7-AF-0-AA2-AA155-FDE.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmU1bEwp_VU/?igshid=Nzg3NjI1NGI=

[MG1]

I went to Princess Auto, Lee Valley Tools and Home Depot in Coquitlam and nobody was out driving. It was nice. Packed snow on United, but clear on Lougheed. At least one lane. I just traveled on the packed snow. No issues in the Ridgeline with Michelin XIce snows.

Going to Bellingham tomorrow early in the morning. Gonna take my sweet time. When laundry has to get done, it has to get done, lol. Hopefully, Trader Joe's will have the Pecan Kringle. I don't like the almond ones they've had for the last two months. Anyway............. sort of wrong thread.

Getting snow off the truck was a challenge. Damn roof rack. Frozen solid and if windshield has any kind of water on it and you park for more than 15 minutes, it's ice. Forgot I had intermittent wiper setting on and nearly shredded the rubber of the wiper. Lesson learned. Wipers off, defrost on, give it five minutes, it's all good.


Forgot to mention. I saw a Mercedes stuck on the side of the road. Like really stuck. I offered to pull him out. He didn't know what a tow hook was. Young guy with two others trying to help. Hey, I offered. All he needed to do was pop the cover off the bumper and screw the tow hook on. I had a tow rope with a locking hook on it............... a gentle pull while he tries to get out is all it takes. Anyway.

[danned]

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[BIC_BAWS]

Looks like the lazy fucks in Richmond didn't plow on the weekend. All of No.5 from Westminster to River is unplowed.

In Delta, I saw them plow and salt like 5 times on Saturday morning.

Hwy99NB by Westminster exit - flipped taco in ditch, 2 cops on site

No.5 x Westminster (basically all of No.5) is unplowed

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[68style]

is flat, y u need plow :troll:


no plow -> salty drivers
salty drivers -> melt snow
city = profit$$$

[GIZZ]

Lucky yesterday wasn't a workday or it would have been a repeat of Nov 29.

I wonder what mainroad.ca budget/expenses/profits looks like.

https://mainroad.ca/winter-operations-faq-mainroad-lower-mainland-contracting-lp

[EvoFire]

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/aston-martin-cant-even-snowy-road

Richmond didn't plow sure, but a lot of times it's ppl like these who shouldn't be on the road, but are.

[Badhobz]

good thing i removed the snow off the camry yesterday, today its completely frozen over. Now i can just warm it up and drive off while the wife goes twiddling around in her RX

[tofu1413]

hwy 1 was an ice rink this morning.


boggles my mind how the surface wasn't prepped again.

took lougheed, then detoured up to SFU... which was completely cleared, then down to hastings and onwards to kits.. probably 20 mins behind or so only. Looks like nobody takes Barnet hwy at all / hastings

[Dragon-88]

Got my first ATV plow this year. Makes moving the snow we had so much easier. Living in a cul de sac and on a steep hill, the city never comes. So I decided to help all the neighbours out. Plowed the whole street and sidewalks. While the homeowners just have to clean up the scraps and salt.Also helped pushed a Uhaul up the hill using the plow for a neighbor that was moving out (worst day to choose), but we made it up.

What takes 1 push with the plow, is like 20+ shovels of snow.

https://youtu.be/rD45UCoD7Fs

[Liquid_o2]

Was going to go into the office, then boss told everyone to work from home.

:fuckyea:

[whitev70r]

Got my first ATV plow this year. Makes moving the snow we had so much easier. Living in a cul de sac and on a steep hill, the city never comes. So I decided to help all the neighbours out. Plowed the whole street and sidewalks. While the homeowners just have to clean up the scraps and salt.Also helped pushed a Uhaul up the hill using the plow for a neighbor that was moving out (worst day to choose), but we made it up.

What takes 1 push with the plow, is like 20+ shovels of snow.


Neighbour of the year award right there! You should get lots of butter cookies for Christmas from those who live in that cul-de-sac.

[yray]

lol was in queue for knight street, said fuck it and went to Arthur Laing

[unit]

Got my first ATV plow this year. Makes moving the snow we had so much easier. Living in a cul de sac and on a steep hill, the city never comes. So I decided to help all the neighbours out. Plowed the whole street and sidewalks. While the homeowners just have to clean up the scraps and salt.Also helped pushed a Uhaul up the hill using the plow for a neighbor that was moving out (worst day to choose), but we made it up.

What takes 1 push with the plow, is like 20+ shovels of snow.

https://youtu.be/rD45UCoD7Fs

we always get our shop yard plowed by a neighbour with an atv as well.
you can actually make some decent coin by doing it as well, mostly sidewalks and small parking lots. my neighbour charges like $120/hr cash. not a bad way to pay off your atv in a few years

[Badhobz]

120 bucks!? what a rip off.

[inv4zn]

Last night I watched a mustang burn through a quarter tank of his gas trying to make it up this huge hill (it's not a huge hill, it's a very gentle incline), over about 10 minutes.
https://goo.gl/maps/i7YQvkBXdhPRfxDv6
https://i.ibb.co/47xbwpv/fasd.jpg

Dude was literally bouncing off the rev limiter inching forwards. That we live amongst these fucktards, is truly dismaying.

[BIC_BAWS]

is flat, y u need plow :troll:

Cause all of No.5 road is an ice rink lol

[320icar]

Looks like the lazy fucks in Richmond didn't plow on the weekend. All of No.5 from Westminster to River is unplowed.

In Delta, I saw them plow and salt like 5 times on Saturday morning.


Yesterday when my wife was on her way home from work around 9pm, she was saying Richmond’s roads were completely unplowed and pure ice. The moment she got through the tunnel it was clear and well brined/salted/plowed lol. It was very obvious Richmond did nothing but delta was on the ball

[bcrdukes]

120 bucks!? what a rip off.

Perhaps time for you to buy an ATV and charge $120 a pop to clear the snow in your area :accepted:

[quasi]

Colder than a witches tit out there. I went for my jog at lunch, surprisingly the sidewalks were better than last snowfall as far as being slippery but holy shit is it cold, especially if you're out there for 45 minutes in areas with no wind breaks.

I don't want to make excuses but I'm not sure I'll be able to do it again tomorrow lol.

[Badhobz]

It is bloody cold. I didn’t even wanna bring the chi chi’s outside today. They are having an indoor day. Glad I shovelled last night as today all I needed to do was just throw salt on top.

My prick neighbour has to chip ice this morning off his driveway.

[68style]

Why you talking about me that way?

[68style]

Got my first ATV plow this year. Makes moving the snow we had so much easier. Living in a cul de sac and on a steep hill, the city never comes. So I decided to help all the neighbours out. Plowed the whole street and sidewalks. While the homeowners just have to clean up the scraps and salt.Also helped pushed a Uhaul up the hill using the plow for a neighbor that was moving out (worst day to choose), but we made it up.

What takes 1 push with the plow, is like 20+ shovels of snow.



I like how in sped up video it looks like that SUV tried to kill you twice lol

[bcrdukes]

My prick neighbour has to chip ice this morning off his driveway.

Why you talking about me that way?

:inoutugh: :peek:

[winson604]

Was trying to get to Richmond today at 1130 and took me 30 mins to cross Knight bridge from 57th and Knight. Couldn't tell from afar looked like a fender bender but as I got close it was some dude in a Civic with his wheels spinning and spinning blocking the left lane. I mean yea the road on the bridge wasn't amazing but there was barely an incline and literally every single type of car, snow tires or not were just cruising by for the entire 30 mins I was there.

Finally though I was in the clear, took Bridgeport East exit and some big semi was stuck at the exit where you merge onto Bridgeport, again wheels spinning, back up and forward again and again. Luckily he finally got to a point after 10 mins that he was far enough to the right where cars could pass him on the left. For fuck sakes it was wack out there.

[dark0821]

So you are saying is that I have a chance to get home from the Auto Mall to Deer Lake?

[mc.]

Was trying to get to Richmond today at 1130 and took me 30 mins to cross Knight bridge from 57th and Knight. Couldn't tell from afar looked like a fender bender but as I got close it was some dude in a Civic with his wheels spinning and spinning blocking the left lane. I mean yea the road on the bridge wasn't amazing but there was barely an incline and literally every single type of car, snow tires or not were just cruising by for the entire 30 mins I was there.

.

Wonder if it was the same car when I passed it at 9 30. Thought it was an older Corolla just spinning his tires. Heard on the radio was an issue since 6 30, might have spun his tires bald.

[supafamous]

I was at the Still Creek Costco this morning and was surprised to see how busy it was (full) and how many people aren't running winters (maybe 25% had winters). Sure, the main roads are mostly ok but I doubt these folks were just driving on main roads.

[RiceIntegraRS]

In surrey, it was extremely easy getting around. I didnt have to put it in 4x4 once. I actually made it to work and home alot quicker than usual cause it seemed like some people got the point and stayed home.

[punkwax]

Did some gift shopping today. Got a lot done in less than two hours. Probably would’ve taken 4 hours min if the roads were dry and it wasn’t -9 out :notbad:

[BIC_BAWS]

Only 1.5 hours home today... not bad. That 11.5 hour commute last time really puts things into perspective.

[Badhobz]

i was bored, so i drove to richmond costco for lawls. Perfect day to go to costco, not too many idiots and the road condition wasnt too bad. starting to come down again when i left
https://i.postimg.cc/3w5jCmv2/IMG-7132.jpg

[AzNightmare]

Was at the local mall. I probably could have taken a better pic, but who cares. Why's this guy on Extreme ContactSports when there's snow and ice on the ground.

https://i.imgur.com/XIjvpuy.jpg

Just irresponsible. I hope he gets stuck.

[Gerbs]

I don't think you can move at all on summer tires

[Traum]

Living near Boundary is certainly interesting / eye-opening. Driving the CoV side of things, arterial roads were still minimally shoveled, while the same road on the other side of Boundary is plowed and salted. It was almost like Burnaby went out of its way to insult CoV on how pathetic their snow clearing efforts are.

[Euro7r]

Been encountering these fucking dbags that come out of small streets, then drive like a fucking snail holding up traffic. Just wanna bitch at these idiots.

[ilovebacon]

i was bored, so i drove to richmond costco for lawls. Perfect day to go to costco, not too many idiots and the road condition wasnt too bad. starting to come down again when i left
https://i.postimg.cc/3w5jCmv2/IMG-7132.jpg

richmond costco parkade is a headache.....

[320icar]

I. Fucking. Love. My. Subaru.

I was so meh about it this whole ownership so far, but it is an absolute riot in the snow.

[donk.]

Been encountering these fucking dbags that come out of small streets, then drive like a fucking snail holding up traffic. Just wanna bitch at these idiots.

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/picture-confident-senior-woman-driving-260nw-298022900.jpg

[AzNightmare]

woooooaaaa
Still coming down strong right now.
This is nuts.

I'm glad I don't need to leave the house for anything today.
It's going to be a shitshow again.

[BIC_BAWS]

I'm definitely staying home today. My cars outside were only dusted with snow. Now it looks like it's not even there LOL

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[quasi]

We have at least 6 inches of snow and it's still falling. I started shovelling, got half my driveway done and was like might as well wait for it to stop and then wake my son up, he can get out there.

[N.V.M.]

8", upper Delbrook, North Van. fack.

[pastarocket]

More fat burning workouts from snow shovelling today for me haha.

Pretty big dump of snow in my neighbourhood:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221220/198ecb51343d5dde805b8cad1887ddab.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221220/511cd20f129ddb008886a59bd9969c4e.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221220/2f81b7fb28153a4990939cbb46da20ec.jpg




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[pastarocket]

All flights leaving YVR are cancelled.

Talk about a shitshow at the airport:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/12/20/snow-vancouver-airport-passengers-stuck/

Vancouver International Airport has been significantly impacted by Tuesday’s massive snowstorm, with all flights leaving the airport cancelled until further notice.

YVR says in a statement the snowstorm has had an “unprecedented” impact on flights and operations, leading to mass cancellations.


“Travel continues to be significantly impacted this morning & we anticipate cancellations to continue through the day and the week ahead,” it said.

Prior to cancelling flights, many passengers endured a sleepless night on the tarmac.

YVR says because of the heavy snow and low visibility, a significant number of flights were delayed or cancelled, which caused congestion on the airfield with aircraft holding at gates and on the tarmac.

[Badhobz]

its 8:20 and im sitting at home eating baguette cheese crisps and capicola for breakfast. The snow is piled sky high and i have no intention of going out there to touch it until i finish my tea and breakfast. THIS IS WINTER!!!!! finally.

Gonna be a riot driving out there today.

looking at my backyard, i think there's almost 1 feet of new snow since last night. this is awesome!!!

[N.V.M.]

1 feet eh.

[yray]

got to work fine, road conditions are actually decent

rusty tow truck helping another rusty tow truck cuz tires are spinning

:lawl:

[Tapioca]

10" on my deck in Coquitlam.

[supafamous]

10" on my deck in Coquitlam.

I'm around 10" over here in Central Park - way more than I expected. I went to bed at 11 and there was maybe an inch at the time. Quite the workout clearing it this morning.

[supafamous]

Oh yeah, shoutout to the owner of the 992 who was driving around on Sunday in the snow. Clearly had winters on and treating that thing like a DD.

Unlike this Aston Martin driver: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/aston-martin-cant-even-snowy-road

[68style]

I'm around 10" over here in Central Park - way more than I expected. I went to bed at 11 and there was maybe an inch at the time. Quite the workout clearing it this morning.

Morning wood's a bitch

[supafamous]

Morning wood's a bitch

I'm a grower, not a shower.

[nismodrifter]

South Surrey. I measured 35cm outside on top of my garbage bin. I have a corner lot. Shovelled the sideways right now. Nice and fluffy. I have to work now. Will do the driveway later.

I'm a born and raised Calgarian living out here ~6 years or so. I recall a storm we had back in 1998, March 17 to be exact, and that was the only snow day EVER that we had. That was ~32cm. That is the most snow I have ever seen fall over night. This dump we got last night tops that. Insane.

https://i.postimg.cc/Qx7VmTmt/20221220-080910.jpg

[68style]

I'm a grower, not a shower.



Let me show you... what I'm supafamous foh

... hold on... just getting it ready... ahhh there we go

lol

[Badhobz]

https://i.postimg.cc/QtvzGSLN/IMG-7135.jpg

im just starting to deal with this mess.

step 1) go drive out to can tire to buy a SNOW JOE snow blower hahah

[The Producer]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52575948764_683cdafc0c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2o6XtRf)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2o6XtRf) by GhstRidr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostrider79/), on Flickr

thought the tree might save me some clearing work. nope.

i'm born and raised north vancouver. I don't recall this much overnight snowfall at sea level. whistler for sure, even up the hill in the highlands - but not down here. it's so light - at least it's easy to clear.

[quasi]

What a bitch, this has to be the most snow since that dump in 2009 or 2010? I can't remember the year. I helped him with most of it but the kids out there finishing up.


https://i.ibb.co/XtwcsJ5/20221220-095915.jpg (https://ibb.co/PgSqhCW)

[TOS'd]

https://i.imgur.com/ruiz0rwl.jpg

[Badhobz]

Fuck this piece of shit chinaman. I pulled up to him and yelled at him telling him to clean off his roof. Dumb shit was completely oblivious. https://i.postimg.cc/X7vMk6D0/D6-AE99-FD-EE7-D-4-FC6-A453-FEE9940-BB87-D.jpg

[pastarocket]

Fuck this piece of shit chinaman. I pulled up to him and yelled at him telling him to clean off his roof. Dumb shit was completely ambiguous. https://i.postimg.cc/J4zZfFCR/4-E119-D6-E-8-EAB-40-EF-B8-FD-5-E6583-AB91-D7.jpg

Those are some of the worst drivers. I mean, I would yell at him "Hey idiot, are you saying it does not snow in China?" "Only artificial snow like the Beijing Winter Olympics??" :lawl:

[ilovebacon]

that dickhead cant be spending 15mins clearing the snow, he got places to be lol

[nismodrifter]

that dickhead cant be spending 15mins clearing the snow, he got places to be lol

15 mins to clear snow? takes all of 30 seconds while car warms up. Still....dickhead is dickhead.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Hes a dickhead but ive seen so much worse on my drive. Atleast he clear the snow off his back window unlike the dozen or so ive seen today

[Qmx323]

Better than the "literally only clear snow off my little viewing circle on the windshield" folks lol

[Zedbra]

Better than the "literally only clear snow off my little viewing circle on the windshield" folks lol

Saw the popo yesterday stopping cars in North Van from getting onto the bridge and making them clear the snow off their back windows; was a line of three cars there clearing off snow.

Barely an inch of snow in Squampton last night - nice and sunny here today.

[yray]

snows compacting

good luck guys

[Badhobz]

Crossclimate 2's are GOD DAMN EPIC in the snow. Literally the same performance as a snow tire. this beast is able to plow through anything, and it doesnt even slip on the ice.
https://i.postimg.cc/90n7Sjdn/3-B44-F21-C-FE57-44-F5-9-D51-C2-BC0067-C55-F.jpg
Successfully taking us to dim sum today
https://i.postimg.cc/m2SDt41f/49-B7-F385-84-D7-42-AA-8-E78-33-B489-D6-F22-D.jpg

[TOS'd]

if you drive fast enough, the snow will clear itself off your car. :badpokerface:

[bcrdukes]

Is there any lobster in that huge bowl? If not...in Revscene Christmas fashion, you have failed us all. :troll:

[Badhobz]

i wore my steel toe conductor boots into the restaurant (chef tony). they looked at me like i was a pig farmer hahahah :lawl:

[radeonboy]

^i thought about wearing mine as well but decided it was a bit too extreme lol.

My car struggled a bit today with TC on, but drove like a dream once I turned it off. Drove through Vancouver and Richmond without a problem - 300lb-ft of instant torque really makes a difference.

[Teriyaki]

Worst. Job. Ever.

Where’s fucking snow !?!?

Yah, sun is out, blue skies with some clouds. Good job meterologists!

Sigh never can trust our weathermen

Are we not entertained!?:ilied:

[The Producer]

My car struggled a bit today with TC on, but drove like a dream once I turned it off. Drove through Vancouver and Richmond without a problem - 300lb-ft of instant torque really makes a difference.

underrated comment. people think TC helps you in these conditions. these conditions are exactly why the OEM gives you a button to turn it off.

[Hondaracer]

So flew home yesterday, YVR is a complete joke.

Flew from Europe to Toronto, Toronto had like 6” of snow or so but the entire airport was bare, you could see they were actively clearing snow and puting down de-icer or whatever all over the runways. Almost all exterior surfaces were bare.

Flash forward to 8pm at YVR, landing on a runway covered in snow seemed sketch af and the plane def felt like it was sliding all over when the reverse thrusters engaged. Had to wait an additional 45 minutes before getting a gate (which, with stories today of planes sitting 4/5/8 hours without getting a gate I can’t complain too much)

Then took another hour and a half to get out bags because they said Westjet emoloyees all called in sick or couldn’t make it in due to the snow (at the time there was like what, 3” in the ground with mostly clear roads?)

Taxi line was 300 people deep, Ubers cancelled twice on us because it seemed like the road into the airport was so jammed it would take 35 minutes to get to that cell phone lot to the arrivals. So we then had to wait 45 minutes for a “delayed” skytrain at the airport station again due to “conditions” sky trained to Cambie, walked 4 blocks in ankle deep snow with our
Luggage to get an Evo and then drove home lol..

In terms of driving those Evo Prius seemed perfectly fine. Drove on some back streets and Cambie/12th/nanaimo didn’t slip once, no issue whatsoever in packed snow

[westopher]

Almost like a city that gets 30cm of snow once every 15 years is less prepared for it than one that does multiple times a year.

[Hondaracer]

You think it’s acceptable to have an international airport brought to its knees over 6” of snow?

A 14 hour flight from Sydney to YVR spent another 5 hours on the tarmac cause no gate

There was another story about one plane sitting overnight for 8 hours before getting a gate

That’s not normal.

[westopher]

Do you think it wouldn’t happen in Texas? Or Seattle? or LAX?
Literally every year airports are forced to close due to weather. They are going to be most prepared for the most common weather issues they deal with, and the least prepared for the ones they least often deal with.

[twitchyzero]

we are the pacific gateway to canada, and 2nd largest airport in one of the biggest northern countries + constantly bragging about being at or near the top of best airport lists (which i find weird)

should there be delays and some cancellations in the last 2 weeks of the year, sure..but not of epic proportions

[Gumby]

I wAnder what Vancouver's snow removal budget is compared to Toronto.

Or YVR vs YYZ...

[Hondaracer]

Do you think it wouldn’t happen in Texas? Or Seattle? or LAX?
Literally every year airports are forced to close due to weather. They are going to be most prepared for the most common weather issues they deal with, and the least prepared for the ones they least often deal with.

Texas or LA? Ok.

[Badhobz]

climate change is here to stay, this sort of weather event will now be the norm and the ports/airports/municipalities better get used to it.

[bcrdukes]

Hondaracer - Is this you first time flying or something?

I wAnder what Vancouver's snow removal budget is compared to Toronto.

Or YVR vs YYZ...

I would assume the budget for bike lanes in Vancouver far exceeds the snow removal budget of all of the GTA and its extended municipalities. :troll:

[westopher]

Texas or LA? Ok.

What about London? I didn’t think I had to exclusively list cities that had our exact climate for you to understand.
Don’t you get tired of always acting like every inconvenience is some sort of catastrophe that’s everyone’s fault? You just spent a month in Europe. Get some perspective on how “shitty your life is in this shithole” have a pint and relax.

[whitev70r]

I wAnder what Vancouver's snow removal budget is compared to Toronto.

Or YVR vs YYZ...

Ask and it shall be given:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/metro-vancouver-snow-reasons-why-1.6670237

How many millions of dollars do major Canadian cities budget each year for snow removal?
Montreal $187
Toronto $109
Ottawa $78
Edmonton $57
Calgary $52
Winnipeg $35
Halifax $25
All of Metro Vancouver $10
Vancouver $4
Numbers are approximate, based on most recently available budget document. It is not uncommon for municipalities to overspend their snow removal budgets in any given year due to more extreme weather events.

[Hondaracer]

Couple things, it snows here. It does actually fairly often

Until late into the evening last night, midnight on, there was not very much snow at all. Completely manageable, or at least you’d think it would be.

YVR isn’t Abbotsford or Kelowna. You’ve got dozens of 10-15 hour long range, wide body flights en-route every day. You can’t just be paralyzed over 6” of snow..

I’m not angry or anything, I dealt with it willingly although I really didn’t feel like it but I wasn’t gonna just sit there and wait for somthing to happen like a lot of people seemed to be doing. Just seems insane how poorly prepared a MAJOR international airport that knows snow is a very real possibility can be

[StylinRed]

Can't really plan for outlier events, I mean you could but it'd be crazy to budget for it

Seeing tons of clips of ppl stuck at yvr, the sky train stations, bus stops, high ways... I'm just wondering if these people had to go out, or did they just assume everything would be fine? :lol

[Hondaracer]

Snow isn’t really an outlier event though. Also having YVR prepared for snow isn’t the same as having the CoV prepared.

The 30 year average for snowfall in December is 7”

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Canada/British-Columbia/Places/vancouver-snowfall-totals-snow-accumulation-averages.php

[TOS'd]

So flew home yesterday, YVR is a complete joke.

Flew from Europe to Toronto, Toronto had like 6” of snow or so but the entire airport was bare, you could see they were actively clearing snow and puting down de-icer or whatever all over the runways. Almost all exterior surfaces were bare.
The majority of that snow was from last Thursday, and barely traces of snow over the weekend.

[pastarocket]

It's not acceptable for a major international airport in YVR to not be prepared for heavy snowfall.

I am pretty sure that they have the technology to get accurate weather forecasts at the airport. Doppler radar. Heck, even weathernetwork.com would suffice.

A buddy of mine was super lucky to avoid the shit show at YVR today. He and his fiance took a flight out of YVR on Monday morning to Japan with a short layover at Nincheon airport in South Korea.

No flight delay for him and his girl whatsoever.

[westopher]

Accurate forecasts for next week don’t create equipment and staff needed to manage the situation.

[donk.]

Sooooooooo, anyone else going surfing today?

:badpokerface:

[Hondaracer]

https://i.imgur.com/YpqYtN1.jpg

Imagine flying 14 hours and then sitting on the tarmac for 5 fucckkkkk

[Badhobz]

I’d pull the emergency exit and just walk to the gate. Fuck that shit

[Hondaracer]

I’d pull the emergency exit and just walk to the gate. Fuck that shit

Yea I think I would be tempted to fake a medical emergency or somthing at thay point and just abandon my bag. Just get me the fuck off

[pastarocket]

Accurate forecasts for next week don’t create equipment and staff needed to manage the situation.

-looks like YVR is managing the situation with their hiring opportunities.

Anybody want to work as a Manager, Apron Operations at YVR?

https://careers.yvr.ca/en/job/vancouver/manager-apron-operations/38253/40766599072

One of the key responsibilities of this job:

Supporting Winter Operations and apron specific needs as part of a broader team

[Badhobz]

Yea I think I would be tempted to fake a medical emergency or somthing at thay point and just abandon my bag. Just get me the fuck of

Bro after 14h flight, I’m pretty sure waiting even another 20 minutes is deemed an emergency. :badpokerface:

You can fuck my bag, I’ll even do the walk in shorts. Just get the fuck outta this metal tube.

[CivicBlues]

I’d pull the emergency exit and just walk to the gate. Fuck that shit

Quick and easy way to find yourself on a no-fly list.

Instead we need to collectively lobby the federal government to issue punitive fines for airlines that hold people on the tarmac for over an hour. The airlines in turn will pressure the Airport authorities to clean up their act.

All in all, YVR is not really a "MAJOR INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT". More like a major Canadian Airport. We don't even crack the top 50, and probably only barely the top 100 pre-covid (2019) with 24 million passengers. Point of comparison Sea-Tac had 46 million passengers and Toronto 47 million. Sad fact is most US airline hubs like Denver, Atlanta, Chicago blow every other Canadian airport outta the water in both scale and passenger movements.

Two cities with similar populations (2.6 and 2.8 million) their airports couldn't be any more different:

YVR:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vancouver,+BC/@49.1952848,-123.1829026,1163m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x548673f143a94fb3:0xbb919 6ea9b81f38b!8m2!3d49.2827291!4d-123.1207375

Denver:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Denver,+CO,+USA/@39.8587556,-104.6777237,1394m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x876b80aa231f17cf:0x118ef 4f8278a36d6!8m2!3d39.7392358!4d-104.990251

[westopher]

I waited on the tarmac for 2 hours at LAX on a 23 degree and sunny May day with no wind. That’s a lot crazier to me.

[Badhobz]

It’s LAX. That place is a shithole regardless of weather.

[whitev70r]

Increasingly, you cannot say that major snowstorms is an outlier here in YVR. I mean we already had 2 big ones and it's not even the end of December. We have got to invest in equipment and put more $$ to be prepared, at the airports, at roads, in transit, etc.

[StylinRed]

Snowstorms are still an outlier event though especially here

Interestingly tho another issue of delays at YVR may be due to staffing, since passenger numbers are still half of what they were pre-covid, I doubt yvr is fully staffed yet

[Badhobz]

is it just me or is it snowing a bit again? its gonna be a white xmas at this rate. sweet!

[StylinRed]

is it just me or is it snowing a bit again? its gonna be a white xmas at this rate. sweet!

Supposed to pour rain on the weekend tho :(

[Badhobz]

arrrghhh nooooo. i love the city like this.

nobody in the malls, costco's, and the roads are kinda empty. all the china fucks pussied out and stayed home, its heaven right now in richmond.

[underscore]

Is it really an outlier event when it happens every year?

[radeonboy]

arrrghhh nooooo. i love the city like this.

nobody in the malls, costco's, and the roads are kinda empty. all the china fucks pussied out and stayed home, its heaven right now in richmond.

Perfect, time to get some last minute shopping done :alonehappy:

[westopher]

Increasingly, you cannot say that major snowstorms is an outlier here in YVR. I mean we already had 2 big ones and it's not even the end of December. We have got to invest in equipment and put more $$ to be prepared, at the airports, at roads, in transit, etc.
They were though. A foot of snow fell overnight in north van. People are measuring as high as 18 inches in Metro Vancouver in accumulation. That's 3x the historical average December snowfall in 24 hours. Couple that with accumulation that week that hasn't been washed away by rain like most years. As usual it's a no win situation because no one can ever just say "shit happens" anymore, and everyone is always mad at someone for everything. If they had staff and equipment for this it would cost money, then people would bitch that the costs of flying are higher because YVR is "wasting money" on preparing for something that never happens.
The weather outside is weather, and as shit gets crazier because we destroyed the planet, we aren't going to be able to be prepared for everything. It's just like the floods. Everyone asking why they weren't prepared for it? Because it's never happened in the lifetime of anyone that's alive today.

[twitchyzero]

my mind is blown routing through some US airports thinking BKK or LHR would be the busiest
looks like microprocessors

DFdubz
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/DFWAirportOverview.jpg/2880px-DFWAirportOverview.jpg

ATL
https://blog.blacklane.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Untitled-design-2019-05-15T135735.618.png

[CivicBlues]

I've said it last year and I'll say it again. How much time, money and lives have been lost due to the collective will of the world to celebrate the western world's biggest holiday in the middle of fucking winter? All For what? To celebrate some mythical baby being born in the Judean desert two thousand years ago? Or some Pagan worship of some trees?

Same goes for Chinese New Year. Pure insanity.

Bah Humbug to you all!

[CivicBlues]

my mind is blown routing through some US airports thinking BKK or LHR would be the busiest
looks like microprocessors

Next month I'm going to have to connect thru ORD, DEN, and ATL with a max 1.5 hour connection time

Wish me luck and pray to the weather gods to have mercy!

[Gumby]

Next month I'm going to have to connect thru ORD, DEN, and ATL with a max 1.5 hour connection time

Wish me luck and pray to the weather gods to have mercy!
What the hell - you must be sadistic, going through all those airports... :lol

[CivicBlues]

Yeah tell me about it. All because YVR no longer has a direct flight to the busiest airport in the world (ATL). Which it still would, if it was a real international airport :p

[westopher]

I've said it last year and I'll say it again. How much time, money and lives have been lost due to the collective will of the world to celebrate the western world's biggest holiday in the middle of fucking winter? All For what? To celebrate some mythical baby being born in the Judean desert two thousand years ago? Or some Pagan worship of some trees?

Same goes for Chinese New Year. Pure insanity.

Bah Humbug to you all!
Some girl cheated on her husband 2000 some odd years ago and was so good at lying about it that I’m making hundreds of canapés for drunk accountants while listening to the worst music that’s ever existed.

[Hondaracer]

That’s also assuming he existed at all lol

Edit*

On the Jesus/Christmas note I went to a very interesting place in Ireland, New Grange, which predates the pyramids etc.

This place had a bunch of architecture and structures based on the winter solstice etc. I’m sure we’ve all seen zeitgeist or sonthing similar which shows how Jesus, Christmas, bla bla bla is all tied to the same calendars people thousands of years before used. But it was interesting to see places that existed even before the places we associate this with (the pyramids) we’re doing the same shit 3200+ years before Christ

[CivicBlues]

Some girl cheated on her husband 2000 some odd years ago and was so good at lying about it that I’m making hundreds of canapés for drunk accountants while listening to the worst music that’s ever existed.

It was immaculate Joe, IMMACULATE!! :lol

If Aliens are observing us then they must be laughing at our collective stupidity. Can you imagine how awesome summer would be if we had Christmas on June 25 instead? We should all be taking a page from the bears and hibernating our fur-less butts for the next 3 months.

[bcrdukes]

Next month I'm going to have to connect thru ORD, DEN, and ATL with a max 1.5 hour connection time

Wish me luck and pray to the weather gods to have mercy!

Is this with United?

ORD - Good luck. :fuckthatshit:

[donk.]

Increasingly, you cannot say that major snowstorms is an outlier here in YVR. I mean we already had 2 big ones and it's not even the end of December. We have got to invest in equipment and put more $$ to be prepared, at the airports, at roads, in transit, etc.

So your ok with further tax hikes? :badpokerface:

[StylinRed]

It was immaculate Joe, IMMACULATE!! :lol

If Aliens are observing us then they must be laughing at our collective stupidity. Can you imagine how awesome summer would be if we had Christmas on June 25 instead? We should all be taking a page from the bears and hibernating our fur-less butts for the next 3 months.

Christmas in Australia is great but its not the same without the biting cold and chance of snow :lol

[punkwax]

I waited on the tarmac for 2 hours at LAX on a 23 degree and sunny May day with no wind. That’s a lot crazier to me.

I sat on the tarmac for 2 hours in Portland after an emergency landing from Mazatlan. Watched someone die of heart attack a few rows ahead. Pretty sure I was the last person he saw alive as we locked eyes before he fell down in the aisle. He wasn’t feeling well in Mexico. We happened to have a drink with his daughter at the resort before boarding the bus and she said he hadn’t been well all week.

Shook my wife up. She hasn’t flown since. I still fly the odd time for work, myself..

[whitev70r]

So your ok with further tax hikes? :badpokerface:

BC just reported like $5.7B surplus bro :concentrate:

[westopher]

Put it into health care please so my wife’s raise pays for e30 parts.
Oh and so less people die waiting for health care of course.

[hud 91gt]

Quick and easy way to find yourself on a no-fly list.

Instead we need to collectively lobby the federal government to issue punitive fines for airlines that hold people on the tarmac for over an hour. The airlines in turn will pressure the Airport authorities to clean up their act.

All in all, YVR is not really a "MAJOR INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT". More like a major Canadian Airport. We don't even crack the top 50, and probably only barely the top 100 pre-covid (2019) with 24 million passengers. Point of comparison Sea-Tac had 46 million passengers and Toronto 47 million. Sad fact is most US airline hubs like Denver, Atlanta, Chicago blow every other Canadian airport outta the water in both scale and passenger movements.

Two cities with similar populations (2.6 and 2.8 million) their airports couldn't be any more different:

YVR:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vancouver,+BC/@49.1952848,-123.1829026,1163m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x548673f143a94fb3:0xbb919 6ea9b81f38b!8m2!3d49.2827291!4d-123.1207375

Denver:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Denver,+CO,+USA/@39.8587556,-104.6777237,1394m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x876b80aa231f17cf:0x118ef 4f8278a36d6!8m2!3d39.7392358!4d-104.990251


You can’t compare Denver and Vancouver. It’s a major hub for one of the largest airlines in the world, probably more then one. I suggest you compare take off/landings before you even begin to compare budgets. The metropolitan population have little to do with the equation. Just like the city of Vancouver, the airport is not prepared with equipment for the odd snow day we get. Chaos ensues.

I should say. Todays events are completely unacceptable, I feel awful for every passenger, worker involved. But it’s pretty hard to compare an airport which gets 2 snow days a year, probably 10% of the traffic to a couple world class airports. Especially one that gets real winter and obviously require equipment daily. Poor Canada.

[CivicBlues]

^
Yeah that's why I said US Airline Hubs. People think we are a big airport because we're the #3 city in Canada but in reality we're small potatoes. Denver is massive United hub airport and not really a destination in itself. Whereas Vancouver is the opposite. We actually have "hubs" but only two. Toronto for AC and Calgary for WS. Still nothing compared to the Delta/American/United fortress hubs they have in the US.

Is this with United?

ORD - Good luck. :fuckthatshit:

Yup, I'm screwed LOL

Christmas in Australia is great but its not the same without the biting cold and chance of snow :lol

You said the exact same thing last year too! LOL

[whitev70r]

Do you think it's safe that they won't pick up garbage and compost tomorrow?

[Bouncing Bettys]

Do you think it's safe that they won't pick up garbage and compost tomorrow?
Mine was picked up this morning in Aldergrove, where most roads weren't plowed at all.

[StylinRed]

Do you think it's safe that they won't pick up garbage and compost tomorrow?

Saw garbage trucks out today, so I imagine they will pickup

[bobbinka]

What does it matter if your plane gets to the gate and then you can't leave the airport cause the roads are fucked :lol

[EvoFire]

Imma just gonna bite my tongue amid all this stupidity.

[meme405]

Currently stuck in whitehorse, was supposed to have a AC flight out at 6pm. I am rebooked (of my own accord nothing for help from AC) on an air north flight tomorrow morning.

Here's the thing, and this isn't a knock on YVR, AC, air north or anyone, in fact everyone I spoke to today was super nice, and very helpful.

HOWEVER

From what I can tell AC basically as soon as shit hit the fan at YVR, threw their hands in the air, cancelled every flight and gave up. They actually told me this afternoon, that they have pre-emptively cancelled all of tomorrows flights as well for the region.

Whereas air north is still trying. They have three flights that have been delayed out of whitehorse, they've put additional crews on, they pulled an additional 767 out of their hanger to create capacity when they are able to land at YVR again, and they are keeping everything ready to role from whitehorse. When you talk to the people at the counter, they are upbeat, and maintain the same message: "as soon as YVR clears us to land, we will be wheels up and on our way there".

The other one that irked me about AC, I stop in at the airport at 1pm, 5 hours before my flight, and ask the chick whats going on, and she says "your flight is still on time, there wont be any delays". Keep in mind that I know the tail number of the aircraft, at that point the plane was still physically in denver, It had to leave denver, land in vancouver, reboard and come to whitehorse. It was plainly obvious none of that was happening. But AC refuses to mark the flight as delayed or cancelled until 2 hours before it is scheduled to board. This policy is so stupid, it's obvious the fucking thing isn't showing up, and your so dumb and short sighted, you have no other planes in whitehorse. So why even bullshit me and say it is on time, just cancel the fucker. This is exactly the type of shit that makes people think airlines are partially retarded, anyone with a logical brain can see they have themselves backed into a corner that has no way out, and yet they continue on as if a new plane is going to magically appear in whitehorse ready to roll with a crew.

EDIT: also AC's phone system has been down, like not busy you can't get through, actually down. When you dial it actually just says it is too busy, and to go online. So you can't talk to Air Canada. Their desk agents have been told to not even look up people's flights, that everything needs to go through reservations and rebookings, which is the number that is so full it isn't accepting new callers.

Again comparing to air north, you walk up to the counter, they will book you a ticket, modify your ticket, give you information, whatever. No phone, no bullshit.

I mean I get it, AC is 90X the size of air north, but the bureaucracy and size doesn't help me get home in time for christmas.

[EvoFire]

Currently stuck in whitehorse, was supposed to have a AC flight out at 6pm. I am rebooked (of my own accord nothing for help from AC) on an air north flight tomorrow morning.

Here's the thing, and this isn't a knock on YVR, AC, air north or anyone, in fact everyone I spoke to today was super nice, and very helpful.

HOWEVER

From what I can tell AC basically as soon as shit hit the fan at YVR, threw their hands in the air, cancelled every flight and gave up. They actually told me this afternoon, that they have pre-emptively cancelled all of tomorrows flights as well for the region.

Whereas air north is still trying. They have three flights that have been delayed out of whitehorse, they've put additional crews on, they pulled an additional 767 out of their hanger to create capacity when they are able to land at YVR again, and they are keeping everything ready to role from whitehorse. When you talk to the people at the counter, they are upbeat, and maintain the same message: "as soon as YVR clears us to land, we will be wheels up and on our way there".

The other one that irked me about AC, I stop in at the airport at 1pm, 5 hours before my flight, and ask the chick whats going on, and she says "your flight is still on time, there wont be any delays". Keep in mind that I know the tail number of the aircraft, at that point the plane was still physically in denver, It had to leave denver, land in vancouver, reboard and come to whitehorse. It was plainly obvious none of that was happening. But AC refuses to mark the flight as delayed or cancelled until 2 hours before it is scheduled to board. This policy is so stupid, it's obvious the fucking thing isn't showing up, and your so dumb and short sighted, you have no other planes in whitehorse. So why even bullshit me and say it is on time, just cancel the fucker. This is exactly the type of shit that makes people think airlines are partially retarded, anyone with a logical brain can see they have themselves backed into a corner that has no way out, and yet they continue on as if a new plane is going to magically appear in whitehorse ready to roll with a crew.

AC is known to have bad/lack of common sense service, and things have become worse since covid. They aren't United level of retarded but they are pretty high up there and most people have told me to avoid.

I've never had a poor exp with them though I haven't flown with them since 2015, but the difference is painfully obvious when you compare it KLM, Lufthansa, Cathay, Singapore, etc.

[westopher]

I used to refuse to fly AC until like 2016 when westjet got so bad. I haven’t had a bad time since, but it’s a lot of luck of the draw I think. That said EVERY time I’ve flown WJ in the last 5 years I’ve had delays, terrible service and bad pricing.

[Badhobz]

I like AC. They just don’t deal with delays and service interruptions very well. Otherwise their normal service is quite good.

[meme405]

I fly alot, and to a lot of ridiculous places. AC and WJ are the same, as badhobz says, they are fine until it isn't, at which point you are on your own.

I take every precaution to limit myself to their ignorance, I dont fly with checked luggage majority of the time, I leave ample room for connections, I simplify my travel arrangements, and when stuff goes sideways I dont wait to fuck around with refunds and their bullshit, I'm booking immediately on whatever is available. I'm probably out the $500 for my flight they cancelled this afternoon, because chasing them for it is probably more trouble then it is worth. I'll let the corporate traveller people deal with that, but they will probably also give up on the endeavor.

[bcrdukes]

I don't like WestJet. The in-service teams are too happy. That pisses me off.

[mb_]

I got lucky and my flight was able to land with only a 30 min delay (but it took off 30 mins late). Few hours later, shit show at YVR happened. Was with WestJet.

[Hondaracer]

WJ is trash. I dislike their 737-800’s the most as they are so uncomfortable compared to the A220 and Max’s AC uses

However what pissed me off the most about WJ was when I flew to Toronto and paid for their stupid “business class” upgrade. Which at the time was just the middle seat blocked off. During the flight they gave some woman who I presume was the grandma of the family a free upgrade to the business class across the aisle from me. The entire time her grandkids or kids whatever they were were running up and down, taking the free food and drinks provided up front and running back. Eventually not once but twice the dumb ass kids split their drinks and the woman’s wine on me..

I emailed WJ saying why the fuck am I paying for this upgrade only to have someone given it for free and experience this Bs?

Their reply was “well much like on other forms of public transport such as a bus we cannot control what others do”

Ffs..

Btw, if you’ve got little brats do everyone else a favour and don’t bring them to the lounge or up into business class plz thx. Frankly you shouldn’t be allowed to book a kid a business class seat

[bcrdukes]

lol noob

[sonick]

lol Karen

Ftfy.

I flew WJ premium economy with their kiddy tray table in the middle seat few times and it was fine.

On a short flight to LA there was immediate food service with actual plates and cutlery, along with fairly regular drink service.

Better than the Intercontinental flight on AC I most recently took on Premium Economy where they had ONE round of drink service the meal. I had to go up to the prep gangways and ask for booze like the alcoholic that I am.

Compared some Asia or Euro airlines who do apertif, dinner drinks, mid-dinner refill, digestif, and nightcap. But that was pre covid so who knows now.

[TOS'd]

Denver:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Denver,+CO,+USA/@39.8587556,-104.6777237,1394m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x876b80aa231f17cf:0x118ef 4f8278a36d6!8m2!3d39.7392358!4d-104.990251

Looks like a swastika

[Gerbs]

Are planes flying tomorrow or cancelled? Cousin has a flight in 5 hours, apparently nothing is flying out atm.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Are planes flying tomorrow or cancelled? Cousin has a flight in 5 hours, apparently nothing is flying out atm.

Most likely cancelled. WestJet told everyone at the airport to go home, lol.

All incoming flights with a wingspan over 118 feet are also not permitted to land for two days starting tomorrow morning - meaning most foreign aircraft. Canadian and USA flights, and emergency landings are exempt from this rule.

[twitchyzero]

The metropolitan population have little to do with the equation. Just like the city of Vancouver, the airport is not prepared with equipment for the odd snow day we get. Chaos ensues.

...

it’s pretty hard to compare an airport which gets 2 snow days a year, probably 10% of the traffic to a couple world class airports. Especially one that gets real winter and obviously require equipment daily. Poor Canada.

but shouldn't it? we are the main entry for pacific routes

and climate won't be getting any better and this sure wont be the last time yvr and airlines screw things up so spectacularly

i still dont get how yvr gets rated so highly on airport lists, regardless of size and traffic.. blows my mind

AC basically as soon as shit hit the fan at YVR, threw their hands in the air, cancelled every flight and gave up. They actually told me this afternoon, that they have pre-emptively cancelled all of tomorrows flights as well for the region.

...

The other one that irked me about AC, I stop in at the airport at 1pm, 5 hours before my flight, and ask the chick whats going on, and she says "your flight is still on time, there wont be any delays". Keep in mind that I know the tail number of the aircraft, at that point the plane was still physically in denver, It had to leave denver, land in vancouver, reboard and come to whitehorse. It was plainly obvious none of that was happening. But AC refuses to mark the flight as delayed or cancelled until 2 hours before it is scheduled to board. This policy is so stupid, it's obvious the fucking thing isn't showing up, and your so dumb and short sighted, you have no other planes in whitehorse. So why even bullshit me and say it is on time, just cancel the fucker. This is exactly the type of shit that makes people think airlines are partially retarded, anyone with a logical brain can see they have themselves backed into a corner that has no way out, and yet they continue on as if a new plane is going to magically appear in whitehorse ready to roll with a crew.


ive noticed this with practically every north american carrier ive been on besides maybe southwest

like they're trying to keep the disappointment at bay until the last very minute only for it to blow out even harder

*flight cancels last second* wE aRe ShOrT-StaFfED! well shit, you figured that out 15 minutes before boarding?? that shift management!

it was already stewing before pandemic then became painfully obvious since

must be some incredibly backwards ass bureaucracy as the root cause of the problem

the widespread dysfunction just makes me not want to take vacations anymore and that really blows as a first world problem because i cant wait to resume traveling

[pastarocket]

As I expected, the shit show continues at YVR.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/12/21/vancouver-airport-international-arrivals/


Vancouver International Airport is limiting international arrivals until Friday morning as it continues to deal with major backlogs and delays caused by Tuesday’s snowstorm.

YVR says the winter storm that hit caused widespread flight delays and cancellations, and as a result, a “significant number” of planes remain at the airport, leading to a congested airfield.

“Our focus is to depart aircraft from the airport and get crews and passengers safely on their way. Therefore, we will be temporarily limiting arriving international flights for approximately 48 hours, effective Wednesday, December 21 at 7:00 a.m. through Friday, December 23 at 5:00 a.m.,” the airport said.

The airport believes about 30 international flights will be affected, including all flights from All Nippon Airways, Air China, Air France, Air India, Air New Zealand, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, Eurowings, Eva Air, Hainan, Japan Airlines, Korean Air, Philippine Airlines, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, Turkish Airlines.


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[blkgsr]

supposed to fly out on AC tonight at 8:20 to portland on my way to houston then finally new orleans

get me outta here!!!

[Badhobz]

Ooof… big test of your cars / tires today. The snow all
Turned into ice now. Rock friggin hard.

Woke up to the sound of this idiot with a civic gunning it at full rpm and not going anywhere.

[bcrdukes]

Clearly that Civic did not the Cross Climates haha

[yray]

its just richmond, drove the big detour around knight street bridge again and roads were all good until I hit bridgeport

everyone spinning tires