[underscore]

If they had staff and equipment for this it would cost money, then people would bitch that the costs of flying are higher because YVR is "wasting money" on preparing for something that never happens.

What's the cost of fucking up the route of every flight passing through a pretty large airport for the week before Christmas?

Maybe if they didn't spend so much money on cosmetics they could budget for some snow clearing equipment. I've been through Kelowna, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, Winnipeg, Montreal, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee this year and YVR was by far the prettiest. I don't really care about fancy art installations and suspended walkways while slogging nearly a kilometer (I checked) just to get my passport checked when reentering Canada but that's just me.

[Hondaracer]

Subsidize a bannock restaurant rather than get an additional de-icer?

:troll:

[StylinRed]

Wow yvr must be severely understaffed since they're blocking international arrivals until saturday, now that really is a clusterfuck

Passengers are reporting that the airlines aren't even fulfilling their obligations of compensating passengers

What a mess

[roastpuff]

Drove into work around 9AM today, Burnaby was totally fine. My strata's snow guy hasn't been doing the work though, the common driveway is still all a mess.

So is my work's loading dock/back entrance where I access the parking. Wtf are you doing Colliers?

[nismodrifter]

I fly out (hopefully) on Friday to the states for some warmer weather. Unsure what the heck will happen. RIP

[bcrdukes]

Subsidize a bannock restaurant rather than get an additional de-icer?

:troll:

lol

For shits and giggles, the Skyteam lounge at international departures just added bubble tea as part of their offering courtesy of China Airlines.

[pastarocket]

YVR had a recent completion of a 300 million bucks expansion of their international terminal.

-eight additional gates, more retail areas, and of course tree decorations inside the atrium area.
-yoga space, dog washrooms.
-hot drinking water stations for the Asian passengers of course.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-international-airport-yvr-pier-d-terminal-expansion-photos-video

You would think that airport management would set aside some budget for airport maintenance such as snow removal for the runaways. How about a few million bucks from the 300 million budget for the terminal expansion for more snow removal equipment and more staffing instead?

Instead, they spend money on an international terminal expansion that includes a trees surrounded by glass panels :facepalm:

-from the article:

The centrepiece of the Pier D expansion is its one-of-a-kind outdoor enclosure that simulates the natural outdoors of BC. Floor-to-ceiling glass panels enclose an opening in the roof that exposes a forest and coastal-like environment to weather — complete with real trees in real soil that was “blown” into the space during construction.

[The Producer]

I fly out (hopefully) on Friday to the states for some warmer weather. Unsure what the heck will happen. RIP

US bound saturday for me too - honestly at this point it isn't looking that good. I'm flying a canadian carrier, but who knows what things will look like after the rain comes and turns all this snow into cement.

TC NOTAM's are pretty serious business. YVR is straight fucked and it's nothing to do w the carriers. I don't think anything will be rescinded. It's going to take a long time to clear out all the backlog at YVR.

btw - airlines aren't required to compensate travelers for weather related events. i know - the argument will be made that the weather isn't the root cause, but ultimately that will be their reasoning. RIP staff dealing w rage-Karens right now.

[Hondaracer]

Not looking good for leaving on Saturday… FIVE DAYS after the snow fell lol..

[The Producer]

that will be 1 day after the next major snow fall. and the same day as the eventual, and inevitable floods and power outages. add in 5 days of backlog at YVR and ya, it's not looking great.

i can bail on the flight - trying to figure out if I can bail on the accomo

[Liquid_o2]

Drove into the office today. 22 minutes from East Van to Richmond, not bad at all! Surprising that certain major roads such as Oak Street southbound haven't really been cleared. Felt a bit of slippage along 41st down the hill to Main Street, otherwise OK. Wonder what the 5pm drive home will be like.

[murd0c]

Not looking good for leaving on Saturday… FIVE DAYS after the snow fell lol..
It's supposed to snow almost the same amount on Thursday night/Friday morning. I have a feeling no one is going to be flying anywhere this weekend.

[lilaznviper]

some major roads aren't as cleared as other. people still getting stuck and spinning their tires. lots of black ice on the roads driving the wife to work this morning.

[underscore]

Instead, they spend money on an international terminal expansion that includes a trees surrounded by glass panels :facepalm:


You left out the "immersive digital experience" and the "simulated tide pools" too.

https://images.dailyhive.com/20220613184732/vancouver-international-airport-yvr-pier-d-expansion-f.jpg

[teggy604]

Wow yvr must be severely understaffed since they're blocking international arrivals until saturday, now that really is a clusterfuck

Passengers are reporting that the airlines aren't even fulfilling their obligations of compensating passengers

What a mess

A friend of mine works at YVR. Operations is very understaff and that was before the pandemic. So I am not surprised by this.

[StylinRed]

You left out the "immersive digital experience" and the "simulated tide pools" too.

https://images.dailyhive.com/20220613184732/vancouver-international-airport-yvr-pier-d-expansion-f.jpg

To be fair, I saw that display coming back, it looks kinda cool :lol guess they were thinking of copying the Singapore Airport a bit, what's stupid is arrivals only get to walk by it and can't experience it, so it's kind of silly since ppl departing have seen all that crap n then some

A friend of mine works at YVR. Operations is very understaff and that was before the pandemic. So I am not surprised by this.

Not surprised, especially since they're only processing half the numbers they were prepandemic

[blkgsr]

supposed to fly out on AC tonight at 8:20 to portland on my way to houston then finally new orleans

get me outta here!!!

well they've given my flight a gate.....here's hoping they get it worked out and we're good to fly tonight

[mikemhg]

If you have an option to use Abbotsford airport, I'd do it.

We flew out of there to Mexico last year on Christmas day with all that snow, it was a total breeze.

Plane left on time, we cleared security at 9AM in literally 5 minutes.

[Hondaracer]

A friend of mine works at YVR. Operations is very understaff and that was before the pandemic. So I am not surprised by this.

Crazy you can’t find workers when you’re starting at $21/hour working evenings and weekends lol.

[CivicBlues]

You left out the "immersive digital experience" and the "simulated tide pools" too.

https://images.dailyhive.com/20220613184732/vancouver-international-airport-yvr-pier-d-expansion-f.jpg

That's actually pretty cool and looks like they wanted to copy something that Singapore Changi airport did. We definately need more outdoor space inside airports during transit waits. But in typical Canadian fashion it was underbuilt and probably way too expensive.

Changi Airport Jewel:
https://media.timeout.com/images/105745363/750/422/image.jpg

Which brings me to another pet peeve of mine. Comparing Air Canada to major airlines like Singapore, Cathay, KLM, Emirates. The reason why those Airlines are so much better is a ton of government subsidies, and the fact is that they have no domestic market to serve! Whereas AC needs to maintain regular flights to Moosebutt, Saskatchewan - the other Airlines can focus on a premium experience for passengers because it can pick the best destinations that pay $$$ and don't have to subsidize non-profitable domestic routes.

[HonestTea]

Are we getting another massive snow dump on Friday?

[Hondaracer]

That's actually pretty cool and looks like they wanted to copy something that Singapore Changi airport did. We definately need more outdoor space inside airports during transit waits. But in typical Canadian fashion it was underbuilt and probably way too expensive.

Changi Airport Jewel:
https://media.timeout.com/images/105745363/750/422/image.jpg

Which brings me to another pet peeve of mine. Comparing Air Canada to major airlines like Singapore, Cathay, KLM, Emirates. The reason why those Airlines are so much better is a ton of government subsidies, and the fact is that they have no domestic market to serve! Whereas AC needs to maintain regular flights to Moosebutt, Saskatchewan - the other Airlines can focus on a premium experience for passengers because it can pick the best destinations that pay $$$ and don't have to subsidize non-profitable domestic routes.

Also those are all completely different tiers of airline.

Emirates, Qatar, and maybe a Singapore are like 1A, with two of them being so subsidized by private money other airlines will never touch them (continuing to fly the A380 etc)

Lufthansa, KLM, etc. all the euro Carriers are all garbage now besides maybe Turkish. Lufthansa might have a newer, nicer fleet than AC but they all have the same issues that the Canadian carriers do with service, refunds, etc.

Everyone outside of those top airlines used Covid as an excuse to cut service drastically and with tighter and tighter margins it’s doubtful airlines like BA, Lufthansa, etc will ever return to what they once were

[inv4zn]

Are we getting another massive snow dump on Friday?

Forecast 10cm, so there's a potential...but likely not a dump.

It might also just fizzle out into nothing.

[CivicBlues]

Also those are all completely different tiers of airline.

Emirates, Qatar, and maybe a Singapore are like 1A, with two of them being so subsidized by private money other airlines will never touch them (continuing to fly the A380 etc)

Lufthansa, KLM, etc. all the euro Carriers are all garbage now besides maybe Turkish. Lufthansa might have a newer, nicer fleet than AC but they all have the same issues that the Canadian carriers do with service, refunds, etc.

Everyone outside of those top airlines used Covid as an excuse to cut service drastically and with tighter and tighter margins it’s doubtful airlines like BA, Lufthansa, etc will ever return to what they once were

Yup, KLM and Air France also merged so they're basically one big behemoth now. Also wondering what effect budget carriers like EasyJet and RyanAir had on the legacy European airlines. Can't be easy for them to compete.

[nismodrifter]

well they've given my flight a gate.....here's hoping they get it worked out and we're good to fly tonight

Post an update and let us know how bad it is inside airport. Wish you luck.

[yray]

Are we getting another massive snow dump on Friday?

just wait for the big melt

[GIZZ]

Yesterday on the uncleared Richmond roads. Saw a new supra driving on westminster hwy, looked like he was doing alright. Also saw an s2000 diagonal in the intersection on garden city. I passed buy a few times, at first 2 guys were trying to push. 20 minutes later he was just sitting in the car.

There needs to be penalties for guys on summer tires. Put the money towards snow tires instead of paying a fine or recovery fee.

[quasi]

Forecast 10cm, so there's a potential...but likely not a dump.

It might also just fizzle out into nothing.

Hope so, my parents have decided this is the year they want to spend Xmas together and are driving here from Saskatchewan. I was able to convince my dad to at least put snow tires on his truck, never in his life has he ever used them and he lives in rural Sask where if you want the road plowed you jump in your bobcat and do it yourself.

[roastpuff]

Holy crap Kingsway was so bad. Once you cross Boundary.... black ice/frozen crap on the road, the ABS kicked in quite a bit just trying to slow down normally.

[GLOW]

burnaby or vancouver side of kingsway?

I went down boundary, canada way, gilmore an hour ago and it felt OK, I only crossed kingsway at joyce, no issues there or going up/down the hill.

feeling pretty good in my forester sport, never really got or needed to try out x-mode yet. wife parked on kingsway in unshovelled snow last night. she didn't want to, i said we can try x-mode...didn't need it, got out fine - slipped a bit :ilied:

wonder how it'll fair on black ice/packed frozen crap though

[EvoFire]

All this complaining about roads not being cleared, is this nor what Chicago and NY and stuff all look like after a big dump? There's not really any issues driving in a SUV with good all season tires and knowing what you are doing.

Of course there are those with bald tires, or just spending the bare minimum. Yeah they'll have a bad time, but those same people would have a bad time even in a city that "knows their snow".

[inv4zn]

All this complaining about roads not being cleared, is this nor what Chicago and NY and stuff all look like after a big dump? There's not really any issues driving in a SUV with good all season tires and knowing what you are doing.

Of course there are those with bald tires, or just spending the bare minimum. Yeah they'll have a bad time, but those same people would have a bad time even in a city that "knows their snow".

It's a combination of unfit vehicles, and generally people just losing their minds.

The amount of idiots who think standing on the pedal as their wheels spin endless will somehow get them unstuck is unreal. And also the idiots who crawl at 5km/h thinking that's somehow safer. Or the idiots who pull out of side streets as traffic is coming thinking they'll be able to stop like it's sunny outside. Or the idiots who don't even attempt to stop at red lights because snow apparently negates any traffic rules.

It's madness, and it's entirely preventable.

[HonestTea]

just wait for the big melt

Winter storm watch issued

https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42#2219205911168011852202212210502 ww1171cwvr

Sounds like round 3 incoming

[Tapioca]

This is a car enthusiast site where everyone has dedicated winter tires.

The vast majority of people in the Lower Mainland don't have winter tires on their cars.

[StylinRed]

The first round of snow is expected on Thursday night, the agency says, with between 10 to 20 centimetres of accumulation expected. That snow will turn into rain as the temperature warms on Friday.

“The exact precipitation amounts and timing of the changeover to rain remain uncertain at this point, but there is a good consensus that the combination of impactful weather will begin early Friday,” ECCC said.

The agency warns the conditions may make travel difficult for some areas, with visibility likely to be reduced suddenly at times.

The winter storm watch also coincides with an Arctic Outflow warning that ECCC says will make things feel five to 10 degrees colder than seasonal normals Wednesday and Thursday.

Sounds like traffic hell especially with the freezing rain

[SkinnyPupp]

Sounds like you guys are gonna have a white xmas, that's great! Especially those of you with kids

[HonestTea]

The lead forecaster at the BC Wildfire Service's is predicting a massive shit show incoming

https://www.twitter.com/meteo_matt/status/1605702926269235200

[97ITR]

The lead forecaster at the BC Wildfire Service's is predicting a massive shit show incoming

https://mobile.twitter.com/meteo_matt/status/1605702926269235200

Had me up until the part where he said he would buy shares in ICBC if he could.I don’t think he realizes that insurance company don’t do well when there lots of claims (i.e. what he’s predicting).

[EvoFire]

Sounds like you guys are gonna have a white xmas, that's great! Especially those of you with kids

Rain is forecasted for 24/25 so it may not happen.

Though that post after yours said hell may freeze over. We shall see what happens.

[roastpuff]

burnaby or vancouver side of kingsway?



The Vancouver side. As soon as I went past boundary, there was a clear, marked difference on how the road surface felt and behaved.

[nismodrifter]

Westjet has cancelled my trip to the USA scheduled to depart on the 23rd. Damn. Was really looking forward to this vacation.

[StylinRed]

Westjet has cancelled my trip to the USA scheduled to depart on the 23rd. Damn. Was really looking forward to this vacation.

Rebook out of bellingham/seattle? And take the train/bus down there right now?

[nismodrifter]

I have a 2 year old. I'm not that adventerous. Staying at home means some downtime. I'll make the best of it. I don't enjoy the whole airport ordeal at the best of times. No way in hell I will try and deal with the insanity of cancellations and stuff with toddler + stroller etc in tow.

[bcrdukes]

Rebook out of bellingham/seattle? And take the train/bus down there right now?

lol I think getting down to Bellingham or SeaTac might be tough

[SkunkWorks]

I moved back from the maritimes to avoid this shit.

Freezing rain is no bueno. 0/10 not recommended.

[StylinRed]

lol I think getting down to Bellingham or SeaTac might be tough

Was thinking amtrak, but I just noticed they're fully booked for the next few days, damn

[danned]

everyone, stay tuned for MORE fucked up situation from social media
bold tires, tire spinning really hard, car sliding, buses saying fuck off, thats my bus stop hitting numerous cars on streets and road videos and pictures!!!
please invite all family members to watch in social media, drive bc, twitter, tik tok facebook and more you can show them for entertaining your family members like kids, baby and more!!!

[tofu1413]

Well, driving around town today, still noticed the higher end cars putting around still…. On summer tires.

[Badhobz]

I drove to my parents place in east van. Along the way I picked up some take out food on Kingsway and helped push this ghetto Yaris that was stuck. Then got to Vic and Broadway where I pushed another stuck bmw out of the way.

All the while asking these dudes why the heck are they out there if they got bald tires to which they both answered, oh I didn’t think I’d get stuck. I wasn’t stuck last time. Idiots.

[mb_]

Just drove through Highway 1 eastbound, after Willingdon is basically a sheet of ice. Was pretty scary when I got caught off guard and car suddenly just started skidding.

[RiceIntegraRS]

I drove to my parents place in east van. Along the way I picked up some take out food on Kingsway and helped push this ghetto Yaris that was stuck. Then got to Vic and Broadway where I pushed another stuck bmw out of the way.

All the while asking these dudes why the heck are they out there if they got bald tires to which they both answered, oh I didn’t think I’d get stuck. I wasn’t stuck last time. Idiots.

Last year i helped some people get unstuck and i was prepared to pull anyone in my truck if situation were to come up, but this year i said fuck it. Im not helping anyone. This shit happens every year yet everyone loves to make it someone elses fault but there own. But i shouldnt be surprised though, its the Vancouver Way

[unit]

man i'm looking forward to saturday when we have 8C highs, and for entire following week.
I think flooding might be pretty serious though, tons of built up snow, 20+mm of rain every day, temperature swing of over 15 degrees.. we work sorta half inside half outside so these -15C days have been really hard on everyone

[murd0c]

Are we getting another massive snow dump on Friday?

huge snow dump and then freezing rain, this weekend is going to be exciting lol

[whitev70r]

Just drove through Highway 1 eastbound, after Willingdon is basically a sheet of ice. Was pretty scary when I got caught off guard and car suddenly just started skidding.

When ramps off hwy are icy and there is an incline or decline ... does anything help ... even snowtires?

[sonick]

Drove out to Richmond from tri cities, pretty clear roads and fast moving.

Only hairy part was black ice at the end of the highway at alderbridge and shell when it slows down from the overpass.

[inv4zn]

When ramps off hwy are icy and there is an incline or decline ... does anything help ... even snowtires?

If they're little patches of ice with some pavement, then winter tires will definitely help. If it's one big sheet of ice nothing except studded tires will help.

Going up, you need momentum. Going down, you just need to pray lol

[Hondaracer]

Never seen this much ice forming before with any snowfall I can remember

During the day all the snow on the roof and gutters melts a little and my whole front porch and stairs are a 2” sheet of ice

[tofu1413]

another day driving through hwy 1 in the morning... burnaby lake area is another stretch of ice.

its literally driving on patches of ice rink. rest of the highway is clear though.

[GLOW]

have they treated all main roads in east van/burnaby areas yet or are they just letting cars drive over it in hopes it melts stuff on it's own?

i would think by now the main roads are 'ok' but this is vancouver after all

[Dragon-88]

Hung out with this guy all Tuesday morning. He hung out around for a couple hours eating all the grass clippings after I plowed the snow. Just a nice way to take a break and watch nature.

https://youtube.com/shorts/XppM3__6PHA

[HonestTea]

Winter Storm Warning issued

10:07 AM PST Thursday 22 December 2022
Winter storm warning in effect for:

Metro Vancouver - central including the City of Vancouver Burnaby and New Westminster
Metro Vancouver - North Shore including West Vancouver and North Vancouver
Metro Vancouver - northeast including Coquitlam and Maple Ridge
Metro Vancouver - southeast including Surrey and Langley
Metro Vancouver - southwest including Richmond and Delta

Hazardous winter conditions are expected.

Travel conditions will be challenging due to heavy snow, ice pellets, freezing rain, and heavy rain on snow or ice.

Locations: South Coast.

Time span: This evening to Saturday (Christmas Eve).

Hazards: Heavy snow followed by freezing rain and rain, localized strong winds, and localized windchill due to Arctic Outflow to minus 25, localized flooding in heavy rain.

Remarks: A Pacific frontal system combined with the cold Arctic airmass over B.C. will bring another round of snow to the South Coast starting this evening.

As freezing levels rise, heavy snow will become mixed with ice pellets and then change to rain late Friday over most of Vancouver Island, and Friday night to Saturday over the mainland. Snowfall amounts of 10 to 20 cm are expected. Local blowing snow is possible in strong easterly winds resulting in near zero visibilities.

Furthermore, freezing rain is expected during the transition from snow to rain, which could cause significant impact on road conditions. For inland sections of Vancouver Island, periods of freezing rain could continue into Saturday afternoon.

As the system progresses and warming becomes dominant, heavy rain is expected. Localized flooding due to snow-blocked drains and melting snow is likely.

Visibility will be suddenly reduced to near zero at times in heavy snow and blowing snow. Localized flooding in low-lying areas is possible. Take extra care when walking or driving in affected areas. Ice build-up may cause tree branches to break.

Winter storm warnings are issued when multiple types of severe winter weather are expected to occur together.

Please continue to monitor alerts and forecasts issued by Environment Canada. To report severe weather, send an email to BCstorm@ec.gc.ca or tweet reports using #BCStorm.

[TOS'd]

Back to airline hub talk:

Pearson Airport in Toronto is total chaos as stormy weather approaches (https://www.blogto.com/travel/2022/12/toronto-pearson-airport-weather/)

[mikemhg]

Crazy you can’t find workers when you’re starting at $21/hour working evenings and weekends lol.

Is that sarcasm? :lol

$21 isn't much in this city. Working at the airport isn't a breeze either, security clearance and all that crap can be a pain in the ass, it's also not the closest commute.

I can see why they have issues attracting workers.

I've said it many times on this forum, via the cost of housing in this city -- we've essentially fucked ourselves, get used to this kind of crap in the future.

[ilovebacon]

21$ after tax is minimum wage lol...

[Liquid_o2]

Not looking forward to the storm tonight/tomorrow. Supposed to have Christmas Eve dinner at my parents in Surrey, but not going to take the kids through a mess even with snow tires.

I have a feeling it won't be cleaned up by Saturday even if it begins to slowly warm up.

[Hondaracer]

Is that sarcasm? :lol

$21 isn't much in this city. Working at the airport isn't a breeze either, security clearance and all that crap can be a pain in the ass, it's also not the closest commute.

I can see why they have issues attracting workers.

I've said it many times on this forum, via the cost of housing in this city -- we've essentially fucked ourselves, get used to this kind of crap in the future.

Yea sarcasm Sorry lol

It seems like a pretty shit job all around and they had a hiring campaign a while back touting their $21 an hour pay scale.

People always whine here about “well then you’ll pay more taxes!!!”

If services actually work, I don’t think about how much more I have to pay. Just get the services to work. If it means another $50-$80 a plane ticket so I can land, get to a gate, and get my luggage in a reasonable amount of time, I wouldn’t bat an eye.

The issue becomes when you keep paying more and more for worse and worse service. Ie. garbage and recycling and pickup.

[teggy604]

Snow followed by freezing rain that turns roads to ice. Maybe I can use my hockey skate to work lol

[lilaznviper]

kingsway and 12th was sketchy. lots of black ice this morning.

[StylinRed]

Was hoping the rest of my packages would arrive today, but I'm guessing yvr for cargo is a mess too :/ dang and with the storm tonight, guess I won't see the packages til next week

[winson604]

Is that sarcasm? :lol

$21 isn't much in this city. Working at the airport isn't a breeze either, security clearance and all that crap can be a pain in the ass, it's also not the closest commute.

I can see why they have issues attracting workers.

I've said it many times on this forum, via the cost of housing in this city -- we've essentially fucked ourselves, get used to this kind of crap in the future.

I just finished another round of recruiting at work, $30/hr start for a City of Vancouver job and we had the worst turnout ever. But sarcasm not sarcasm $30/hr once upon a time sounded aight now sounds low WutFace

[Gumby]

Back to airline hub talk:

Pearson Airport in Toronto is total chaos as stormy weather approaches (https://www.blogto.com/travel/2022/12/toronto-pearson-airport-weather/)
Well, you won't hear anyone here complaining because YYZ in chaos didn't/doesn't affect them. YVR should have been better prepared. /sarcasm

[hud 91gt]

Lol. Starting pilot wage at AC is ~40k a year. That’s close to $20 an hour isn’t it? I can see it now “you get paid the same as the pilots” lol

I flew in and out of YVR yesterday without delay. Rumour says there is a de ice fluid shortage. With the rain coming I wouldn’t expect to many issues this weekend… tomorrow… Err…

[snowball]

have they treated all main roads in east van/burnaby areas yet or are they just letting cars drive over it in hopes it melts stuff on it's own?

i would think by now the main roads are 'ok' but this is vancouver after all

Drove all around east side to UBC and back and forth yesterday, random roads would be ploughed and some other routes would be just "ploughed by cars"

Some smaller emptier streets on the west side were more ploughed than certain sections of Kingsway by Boundary

[yray]

I wouldn’t expect to many issues this weekend… tomorrow… Err…

lol pooling water

[Badhobz]

Lol. Starting pilot wage at AC is ~40k a year. That’s close to $20 an hour isn’t it? I can see it now “you get paid the same as the pilots” lol

I flew in and out of YVR yesterday without delay. Rumour says there is a de ice fluid shortage. With the rain coming I wouldn’t expect to many issues this weekend… tomorrow… Err…

Are you serious ?!! Holy friggin crap that’s depressing.

[murd0c]

Lol. Starting pilot wage at AC is ~40k a year. That’s close to $20 an hour isn’t it? I can see it now “you get paid the same as the pilots” lol

I flew in and out of YVR yesterday without delay. Rumour says there is a de ice fluid shortage. With the rain coming I wouldn’t expect to many issues this weekend… tomorrow… Err…

I wouldn't get out of bed for 40k a year lol

[Manic!]

The ferrynis fuckd. I'm catching the 4:45 to vancouver and they just finished loading the 3:20. Over an hour and 20 minutes late.

[The Producer]

i'm surprised it's running. my brother is an engineer on the oak bay. basically everything is frozen. they couldn't sail yesterday - all the rescue boats were frozen in the davits.

take a dump at the terminal before casting off - i don't think the toilets are working.

[SSM_DC5]

I wouldn't get out of bed for 40k a year lol

You got the same mindset as those living in tents. :concentrate:

[Manic!]

i'm surprised it's running. my brother is an engineer on the oak bay. basically everything is frozen. they couldn't sail yesterday - all the rescue boats were frozen in the davits.

take a dump at the terminal before casting off - i don't think the toilets are working.

Finally just loaded.over an hour late. Can't wait for evtol to be a thing.

[GLOW]

The ferrynis fuckd. I'm catching the 4:45 to vancouver and they just finished loading the 3:20. Over an hour and 20 minutes late.

as the saying goes....better late than never

[hud 91gt]

Holy crap. WJ may be suspending flights out of YVR tonight (until tomorrow afternoon), and YYZ tomorrow until further notice. Merry X mas. Yikes.

[GLOW]

i think my coworker's vacation is fubar'd now

[JSALES]

Some people annoy me in this weather. I was driving behind this Lexus UX on a pretty much plowed road doing 20 km/h the whole way with other cars trailing right behind me. Might as well stay home if you’re going to drive that slow.

[StylinRed]

A lot of those types today, and the usual driving without their lights on, plus ppl who can't seem to see the lines on the road even tho the roads are clean

[sonick]

Seems almost as if people are using the snow to drive like even bigger idiots with behavior having nothing to do with the snow.

Seeing people casually run obvious red lights on a left turn, pedestrians walking across a green light with oncoming traffic, another driver pulling a u turn randomly in the middle of busy traffic, buddy guy in a Tesla speeding behind me in snow-covered right lane towards a parked car, would've absolutely slid into the car and then into me in the left lane if I didn't slow down and let him in last minute.

[danned]

https://twitter.com/johnwhepburn/status/1605256460690403328?cxt=HHwWgMDRjd-PgscsAAAA

[StylinRed]

Saw a video of an MC20 being pushed thru the slush downtown :lol wtf

[HonestTea]

Started snowing in Coquitlam now

[GS8]

Tonight, I was behind a guy going 25km/h down Rupert north of 41st Ave all the way to Grandview.

In

a

Delica

:fulloffuck::fulloffuck:

--

Also, while heading Northbound on Gaglardi from the freeway, I started slowing down as I approached the red light at Cariboo.

That's when I realized I wasn't stopping :fuckthatshit:

As I'm about to kiss the rear end of a BMW, I veer to left and use a snowbank as a runaway lane. It worked. After going face-first into it, I quickly reversed and realigned myself back in the left lane. The light was green for about 10 solid seconds before the BMW started moving. He might have peed a little as he saw a Ginsu grill in his rearview.

I have winter tires but black ice is like shingles: It doesn't care.

[radeonboy]

Felt like I was pushing the limits of my snow tires tonight. There was a fair of sliding on the side streets tonight for me on the slightest inclines, but thankfully I slowed down early enough to avoid any accidents.

With all the freezing rain that's expected tomorrow, I'm just going to stay put and hope the power doesn't cut out in my neighborhood.

[MG1]

I have winter tires but black ice is like shingles: It doesn't care.

So funny.............

[nismodrifter]

Power flickered once tonight. It's coming down. Better to be at home than stuck in an airport.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Haven't been out since it snowed earlier in the week. Was surprised to see how shitty the roads were in Richmond last night. Came back into Burnaby an hour ago and didn't see a single plow in sight, so it's pretty shitty everywhere right now.

I laughed when the person on the radio told everyone to stay home if they didn't need to be out. I bet 95% of everyone listening to the radio is because they're in their car.

And of course I'm tired as fuck since it's 6AM, but I had to shovel the snow in the driveway and sidewalk.

God damn, I hate snow.

[!Kodamu]

Why does YVR suck people say.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/ztfbac/we_descend_into_chaos/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[StylinRed]

Doesn't look like it snowed much at all overnight, imagine a lot of ppl will think "it's not bad at all" n head out today

[westopher]

Why does YVR suck people say.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/ztfbac/we_descend_into_chaos/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Apparently westjet is cancelling all flights out of yyz as well, and airport which is much better prepared for wild snowstorms and cold.

[The Producer]

Why does YVR suck people say.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/ztfbac/we_descend_into_chaos/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

interesting - wonder of Seattle catching the end of this outflow worse than us.

there's almost no new snow here on the shore this morning - and it's warming up. I have to go to work, so we'll see what the roads are like in the next hour.

Flight status: our flight tomorrow is still showing on-time, but today's equivalent outbound flight at 6pm has been cancelled. Today's the last day I can cancel the accomo so it's going to be a dice roll.

[Badhobz]

i went to life labs and it was fine this morning. But there wasnt really anyone on the road. I think it'll get a lot worse today before the rain comes tonight.

[Hondaracer]

I think everyone can understand delays and cancellations when it’s snowed 18 inches

It’s cancellations and staff shortages when it hasn’t snowed for 4 days that are the issue.

I follow a bunch of mechanics and flight crew on IG and they are now calling out the CEO of YVR in their posts so I’m pretty sure part of it is the ineptitude of management

[westopher]

I’m wondering what day it was that’s being called out without snow for 4 days, because everyone seemed to be mad about the day after it snowed 30cm in one night.
Staff shortages can be attributed more to transit and road issues than the airport management.

[N.V.M.]

I would sue their sorry asses if I was stuck inside the plane for 11 hours. absolutely no excuse. I don't care how much weather there was.

[GLOW]

the news also had to let everyone know YVR CEO makes over $1m/year :lol :troll: Kappa :ifyouknow:

news sites be like
https://media.tenor.com/d69z9Bh_RE0AAAAM/money-itch.gif

[westopher]

Manufactured outrage so hot right now.

[Hondaracer]

She was the CEO of VanCity before moving to YVR. Seems like a good fit

[westopher]

Lol it’s actually funny how CEOs just can move sectors that are so unrelated. It’s like me becoming the executive chef of a landscaping company.

[CivicBlues]

Yeah Tamara Vrooman, CEO of YVR was the CEO of Vancity when they had that Banking System cutover debacle like 5 years ago. Sounds like she's had a lot of major fuckup experience. LUL

[underscore]

Lol it’s actually funny how CEOs just can move sectors that are so unrelated. It’s like me becoming the executive chef of a landscaping company.

Trimming a tenderloin, trimming a tree, what's the difference?

[Hondaracer]

I get in some sectors you’re just running a business and a business is a business but it feels like an airport is a pretty big leap from a bank

[pastarocket]

Horrible airport management in response to snowy weather in my opinion.

How difficult can it be to get enough staff and equipment to clear airport runways of snow, and make sure your staff have the proper tools and enough de-icing fluid to ensure that planes can fly safely?

It's not like a fictional scenario like in one of my favorite "Christmas" movies like Die Hard 2 where you have terrorists hijacking a plane and hacking into the airport control tower to control communications with pilots haha.

Where is John McClane when you need a hero to save an airport? :lawl:

[StylinRed]

I would sue their sorry asses if I was stuck inside the plane for 11 hours. absolutely no excuse. I don't care how much weather there was.

According to an air passenger rights rep, airlines are supposed to walk u out on the tarmac if wait times are going to be over 3hrs, but airlines have to foot the bill to get you off and thru the tarmac that way

[StylinRed]

Yeah Tamara Vrooman, CEO of YVR was the CEO of Vancity when they had that Banking System cutover debacle like 5 years ago. Sounds like she's had a lot of major fuckup experience. LUL

UVic history major :heckno:

[teggy604]

Horrible airport management in response to snowy weather in my opinion.

How difficult can it be to get enough staff and equipment to clear airport runways of snow, and make sure your staff have the proper tools and enough de-icing fluid to ensure that planes can fly safely?

It's not like a fictional scenario like in one of my favorite "Christmas" movies like Die Hard 2 where you have terrorists hijacking a plane and hacking into the airport control tower to control communications with pilots haha.

Where is John McClane when you need a hero to save an airport? :lawl:

Sad part about it, just like icbc, TransLink the CEO will still get their 6 digit bonus because they did a wonderful job. Lol

[RiceIntegraRS]

On one hand YVR should of been way better prepared for this, its not like theses storms are coming out of no where. But on the other hand u think staff gives a fuck about people being stuck on the plane?

A portion of ur staff already isnt showing up for their shifts cause they cant make it to the airport or they just dont wanna deal with the clusterfuck. U think a new batch of workers are magically going to appear to work? The saying "good workers are hard to find" is replaced with "workers are hard to find" in this day in age. No one wants to do anything so imo blame should be placed on everyone not just management.

I have a coworker who walked 50mins in the snow to get to work, and another who drives from abby to surrey to get to work. Yet we have alot of people out there that cant even spend an xtra 1-2mins to wipe the snow off their roofs but love to point the finger at everyone else

[quasi]

Freezing rain no joke, got up early to shovel the bit of snow we got over night and then the freezing rain started.

My headphones when I came in.

I mentioned my parents are driving here from Saskatchewan even though I begged my dad not to come because of roads. They got to Calgary last night spent the night, were in Golden about 2 hours ago probably hit Revelstoke in the next hour and reevaluate around Kamloops. I'm not sure they could have picked a worse day to travel through the mountains, hopefully they make it.

https://i.ibb.co/n80xcTF/2.jpg (https://ibb.co/1JnFq3k)

[bcrdukes]

Sad part about it, just like icbc, TransLink the CEO will still get their 6 digit bonus because they did a wonderful job. Lol

Devil's Advocate but CEOs and executive bonuses are measured on various metrics.

Now, if the CEO of YVR's bonus was to hit a target of 99.999% no disruptions to flights, including weather-related incidents like this one, there's a small chance she'd get a bonus. :p

[is350]

alex fraser and port mann are closed now FYI

[Hondaracer]

Almost threw up shovelling this freezing rain/slush fuck

Almost 4 months of doing nothing but drinking got me weezin

[CivicBlues]

UVic history major :heckno:

No kidding, I can't really find much of any career history from her prior to Vancity. Other than her bush-league Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Vrooman):

In 1992, Vrooman attempted to earn a position with the British Columbia's Ministry of Finance but was rejected because her interviewers assumed she had poor mathematical skills.[2] As a result, she enrolled at the University of Victoria where she took finance courses. Twelve years later, she became British Columbia's first and youngest female deputy minister of finance.[5] While in this role, she won the 2007 Knowledge and Leadership Award from the Association of Women in Finance and the 2003 Queen's Golden Jubilee Medal for outstanding contributions to B.C.'s public service.[3] She also became the first deputy minister in B.C. to take maternity leave.[2]


How did she get to be Deputy Minister of Finance after taking a few "finance courses" and 12 years of experience? Umm what??

[nismodrifter]

I shovelled the sidewalks which have a thick layer of ice and then 10cm snow underneath. RIP my lumbar spine. My jacket and toque turned into ice.

Threw down salt which kept things nice for maybe 2 mins. More rain came down. It's now frozen again and skatable.

[sonick]

Seems almost as if people are using the snow to drive like even bigger idiots with behavior having nothing to do with the snow.

Seeing people casually run obvious red lights on a left turn, pedestrians walking across a green light with oncoming traffic, another driver pulling a u turn randomly in the middle of busy traffic, buddy guy in a Tesla speeding behind me in snow-covered right lane towards a parked car, would've absolutely slid into the car and then into me in the left lane if I didn't slow down and let him in last minute.

A few videos just from last two days:

Suuuper slow oblivious left-turner:
https://youtu.be/U5o4SVTWtBg

pedestrians walking across a green light with oncoming traffic, and in middle of the road oblivious.

https://youtu.be/ftKt0iGGEiI

driver pulling a u turn randomly in the middle of busy traffic

https://youtu.be/1mO4-MApfJw

Pickup truck speeding up and cutting me off last minute:

https://youtu.be/793gY0WlP3M

Buddy-Guy Tesla speeding up from way far back, braking and cutting me off last minute (the first part shows no sign of any tesla, shows they sped up from a long way back)

https://youtu.be/JvnOGuSjd3s

[hud 91gt]

I left for the ferry at 10am from PoCo. Stopped halfway to check if my wheels were falling off. Nah just clear ice wallowing. Was smart staying off the plowed roads. They were definitely the slipperiest.

[!Kodamu]

They can't just hire people and have them start the next day like a typical job.


Horrible airport management in response to snowy weather in my opinion.

How difficult can it be to get enough staff and equipment to clear airport runways of snow, and make sure your staff have the proper tools and enough de-icing fluid to ensure that planes can fly safely?

It's not like a fictional scenario like in one of my favorite "Christmas" movies like Die Hard 2 where you have terrorists hijacking a plane and hacking into the airport control tower to control communications with pilots haha.

Where is John McClane when you need a hero to save an airport? :lawl:

[Hondaracer]

They can't just hire people and have them start the next day like a typical job.

Yea, you can offer wages which actually attract people so they have enough staff to handle these situations before they arise.

[whitev70r]

Port Mann and Alex Fraser bridges closed ... at least this time, people won't be stuck on there for 8-10 hrs.

https://twitter.com/RyanLmark/status/1606356800168656911

[roastpuff]

Took the drone out to try and help a fellow drone user try to spot his unit that died yesterday and landed in the middle of Deer Lake... pilots call this FIKI (Flight Into Known Icing Conditions). That's all ice that accumulated on the blade/gimbal/arms and housing. Did quite well but the cold definitely sapped the battery life.

https://i.imgur.com/hXL83DCh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XwlYEGah.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/034xiwSh.jpg

[whitev70r]

Nice, did you get some nice pics of the storm from high up?

[quasi]

If you haven't shovelled your driveway I'd probably recommend don't. I shovelled mind, just had a peak out the window and I think I might be able to skate on it, it's solid ice lol.

[MarkyMark]

That happened to our walkway. We kept it nice and clean all winter and when I got home today it was just half an inch of solid ice the whole way. Spent 20 minutes breaking it up with a hammer and kicking the chunks of ice off to the side.

[Manic!]

Reports Safeway on 152 a Fraser hwy has had a roof collapse.

Looks to be fake the tweet has been deleted.

[roastpuff]

Nice, did you get some nice pics of the storm from high up?

Not really, was trying to fly low to have a batter chance of spotting the downed drone.

[mikemhg]

I just finished another round of recruiting at work, $30/hr start for a City of Vancouver job and we had the worst turnout ever. But sarcasm not sarcasm $30/hr once upon a time sounded aight now sounds low WutFace

$30 an hour used to be a fairly decent wage in Vancouver.

Fast forward to the average 1BR costing around $1,800-$2,000 to rent,-- it's become quite paltry.

It's actually crazy how much a viable wage has digressed in such a short amount of time here.

It's a problem breaking all of our major systems in this city. I'm actually surprised this hasn't become more of a hot button topic than it currently is in this local narrative here.

[Manic!]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanLmark/status/1606418174500818945?t=KqYAfqfjMBAyvfsVUzP4qg&s=19

It was a burst water pipe at safeway that caused it to close.

[mikemhg]

Yeah Tamara Vrooman, CEO of YVR was the CEO of Vancity when they had that Banking System cutover debacle like 5 years ago. Sounds like she's had a lot of major fuckup experience. LUL

Vancity is a fucking joke.

They can't even design a mobile app that can properly save your bank card number. You literally end up having to grab your physical fucking card for your 20-digit (hyperbole) account number every time you login. Working in tech this is such a simple issue to fix.

I've emailed their head office numerous times, among a litany of negative reviews in the Apple store as per the problem. Years now and it's still not fixed, with the same canned response "voice your concerns at the Vancity leadership meeting" :lol

I've never dealt with an app that doesn't have that capacity, so if her tenure is any indication of addressing such a simple problem, I can't imagine her being successful at YVR.

More then anything this just proves how utterly useless CEOs are. It's an bullshit overpaid job that is artificially kept as a necessity in the corporate world by other overpaid CEOs.

They do not earn their pay in the slightest.

[MG1]

VanCity is so Mickey Mouse. It took me forever to get their stupid app to log me in via Face ID. The app is down quite a bit. They keep sending me invites to run for board and daily reminders to vote. To add insult to injury, they charge you for eTransfers. So lame. I do most of my banking through Simplii . PC Financial is pretty stupid, too.

[donk.]

At least by banking with VanCity you Make Good Money

Errr, I mean, the top executives make good money giving you 1% while they lend it out at 5-20%

[supafamous]

Vancity is a fucking joke.

They can't even design a mobile app that can properly save your bank card number. You literally end up having to grab your physical fucking card for your 20-digit (hyperbole) account number every time you login. Working in tech this is such a simple issue to fix.

For the record VanCity didn't design their mobile app - most BC and Ontario credit unions have their online technology built by Central1 which is a local company that builds "universal" apps for the credit unions which are then customised for each credit union (if they have the money). Smaller credit unions use the products as-is.

The problem you describe happens on the Coast Capital app as well b/c it's the same app and I have no idea why Central1 hasn't fixed it yet.

Central1 has over 700 employees so I don't know why the tech stack is so bad - it's one of the reasons I switched banks and moved to Tangerine cause the Coast Capital tools just weren't good enough.

[supafamous]

I can't be the only one here that feels this way but I really enjoy driving in these conditions. I don't have to go fast to have the car be all squirmy on me and being smart pays offs. SH-AWD is also dope in this weather - the torque vectoring is great, I give the throttle a squeeze at the apex of a corner and the car just "magically" rotates around.

[whitev70r]

Went out for an errand, pools of water everywhere! Layer of ice is half melting so it's still quite slippery out there. If temps drop, there will be ice rinks everywhere but I think forecast is that temps will rise ... it's just wet & slushy out there!

[JSALES]

Today, I had an appointment downtown at 9 am. I thought I would take the chance and park my car at the station and take the train from Metrotown to Burrard station which worked fine getting me there. On the way back though from Granville station where I boarded, I was stuck on the train for about an hour and half at Broadway-Commercial station with no ETA of when things would start running again. Told myself this is why I don’t take transit and the one day I decide to, the trains run into issues. Ended up taking an Uber for $70 back to Metrotown where I parked. This city sucks when it snows..

[inv4zn]

Lol, what looks like soft snow is actually hard ice, and what looks like slippery slush is just water.

Also, drove highway 1 between Willingdon and Canada Way around 3pm, and the entire highway looked like a battlefield. Literally no lanes ploughed. Saw a spun out taxi and what looked like the passengers helping dig him out.

[carsncars]

Highway 1 has tons of pooling water everywhere now. Saw a car hydroplane into a ditch near Canada Way just now.

[StylinRed]

Didn't see any ploughs out today, guess all the cities are penny pinching and counting on the rain to deal with things

[GS8]

The pooling water + lack of reflective road lines = fuck everything in this region...

I hit three water piles on my way from New West to Burquitlam. Don't wanna flood my van after having it for only 2 months.

Also, I was at the Hub Restaurant in New West and just as we finished eating, we were told the whole building was being closed do a pipe burst. This was around 8pm. Good thing I wasn't planning on seeing Avatar 2 at the Landmark :fuckthatshit:

https://i.imgur.com/JCacg1l.jpg

That bus should troll YVR :troll:

And BC Ferries needs to staff the fuck up already. There were issues way before this weather. The weather only cements the fact they need more bodies. But at least they replaced their CEO with an interim :derp:

It's pretty funny walking around though:

Layer of snow above
Sheet of ice in the middle
Puddle of water at the bottom

Reminds me of existential dread

[nismodrifter]

Power going off and on multiple times tonight.

[roastpuff]

Lol, what looks like soft snow is actually hard ice, and what looks like slippery slush is just water.

Also, drove highway 1 between Willingdon and Canada Way around 3pm, and the entire highway looked like a battlefield. Literally no lanes ploughed. Saw a spun out taxi and what looked like the passengers helping dig him out.

Ya, was out on Highway 1 in the afternoon and it was proper fucked. Where were the plows? Only one lane cleared and it was the HOV. Getting to an exit was quite difficult and dangerous if you’re not used to driving in thick (5cm+) slush.

[donk.]

And BC Ferries needs to staff the fuck up already. There were issues way before this weather. The weather only cements the fact they need more bodies. But at least they replaced their CEO with an interim :derp:



My dad's one of the chief engineers at BC ferries

In regards to low staff, well you guessed it, same as all other industries, there's shortages.

What BC ferries has done tho, is rehire many retired staff, for your cruising experience.

Next time your on board, for your two week xmas vacation, in a first world country, be happy you only had to wait an extra hour, or three to get to your destination over the holidays.
Someone retired at age 65, but came back to work, so you could spend the holidays with your family on the island

Just to top it off, for the staff they could not find, they hired internationals, my dad tells me the engine rooms sometimes have a Polak, a Albanian, Emirati and whatever other mix in there working the same shift, with mass language barriers at times. But the shit gets done eventually, someone's gotta suck the days dick after spending an 2 extra hours in traffic

I'm not shitting on you GS8, just giving another perspective KappaPride

[GS8]

My dad's one of the chief engineers at BC ferries

In regards to low staff, well you guessed it, same as all other industries, there's shortages.

What BC ferries has done tho, is rehire many retired staff, for your cruising experience.

Next time your on board, for your two week xmas vacation, in a first world country, be happy you only had to wait an extra hour, or three to get to your destination over the holidays.
Someone retired at age 65, but came back to work, so you could spend the holidays with your family on the island

Just to top it off, for the staff they could not find, they hired internationals, my dad tells me the engine rooms sometimes have a Polak, a Albanian, Emirati and whatever other mix in there working the same shift, with mass language barriers at times. But the shit gets done eventually, someone's gotta suck the days dick after spending an 2 extra hours in traffic

I'm not shitting on you GS8, just giving another perspective KappaPride

Nah it's all good. I've never personally had issues with the Ferries when I used it but it does seem to circle back to the point of our overall workforce. Where's the local supply? Where's the incentive? I don't know what the average Ferrry salary is but if bodies can only be found internationally, does it speak to something about certain industries in this city?

Will the service and trades sectors largely consist of off-shore emergency workers while all the locals work in comfy tech office jobs in the glass towers while most of Gen Z will focus on being influencers / vloggers from their glass basements? Maybe but it kinda screams dystopian.

[westopher]

It’s because jobs can’t support housing costs. I’ve been saying it would happen for years in Vancouver but it’s all over canada, and remote work is driving the issue further than ever. When you need 4x the average household income for 90% of housing, you’re left with zutroy from Albania who’s willing to live with 3 guys in a one bedroom because he’s just happy to be here in canada, or nobody.

[Badhobz]

Just to top it off, for the staff they could not find, they hired internationals, my dad tells me the engine rooms sometimes have a Polak, a Albanian, Emirati and whatever other mix in there working the same shift, with mass language barriers at times. But the shit gets done eventually, someone's gotta suck the days dick after spending an 2 extra hours in traffic

https://media.tenor.com/sK2mHU6kq9IAAAAM/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle.gif

BC ferries wanted a terminal manager for tsawwassen at one point. I was going to apply, but i didnt think they would pay that much. Plus it seems like a thankless job

On a snow related note: ITS GONE, replaced with friggin insane flooding. Im so glad yesterday i wore my rubber boots to go out as lansdown parking lot was literally pools of water that were 6-10 inches deep. I setup some flood barries at our house today, worried all this water will go into my crawl space.

[mikemhg]

For the record VanCity didn't design their mobile app - most BC and Ontario credit unions have their online technology built by Central1 which is a local company that builds "universal" apps for the credit unions which are then customised for each credit union (if they have the money). Smaller credit unions use the products as-is.

The problem you describe happens on the Coast Capital app as well b/c it's the same app and I have no idea why Central1 hasn't fixed it yet.

Central1 has over 700 employees so I don't know why the tech stack is so bad - it's one of the reasons I switched banks and moved to Tangerine cause the Coast Capital tools just weren't good enough.

That makes a ton of sense now.

I was working at an outsourcing firm years ago and we were working on a major project with Central1 to streamline their HRIS and payroll between their payroll systems and benefits portal.

The project was a complete nightmare -- Archaic tech on their end, lack of QA, obscure nonsensical requirements. The project went on for years and was never quite successful, it was one of the hardest clients/projects we worked on.

It came to the point where we were ready to fire them as a client in order to simply close off the entire implementation. To this day it's barely functioning without tons of manual processes and duct-tape solutions.

It makes perfect sense why this credit union app is such utter garbage.

[mikemhg]

It’s because jobs can’t support housing costs. I’ve been saying it would happen for years in Vancouver but it’s all over canada, and remote work is driving the issue further than ever. When you need 4x the average household income for 90% of housing, you’re left with zutroy from Albania who’s willing to live with 3 guys in a one bedroom because he’s just happy to be here in canada, or nobody.

It's also BC Ferries stupid hiring governance.

They hire new employees on a contract on-call basis, meaning you're not given any defined hours, and expected to be fully on-call.

Who in the hell in this city can take on a new job in a non-defined hourly basis?

Add to the fact that on many of these ferry routes they expect you to reside near the actual route. My nephew for example works on the Langdale route, when he started his hours were all over the place, some weeks none, some a bunch, you're called early in the morning to be told whether or not you'll be working that day.

This is compounded by the fact that many of these communities no longer have any affordable rental supply, who can or will work these initial gigs on the ferries? Back in the day you could find an affordable rental or place in Sechelt/Gibsons/Langdale, now you can't. That combined with variable hours = good fucking luck finding people.

[EvoFire]

It's also BC Ferries stupid hiring governance.

They hire new employees on a contract on-call basis, meaning you're not given any defined hours, and expected to be fully on-call.

Who in the hell in this city can take on a new job in a non-defined hourly basis?

Add to the fact that on many of these ferry routes they expect you to reside near the actual route. My nephew for example works on the Langdale route, when he started his hours were all over the place, some weeks none, some a bunch, you're called early in the morning to be told whether or not you'll be working that day.

This is compounded by the fact that many of these communities no longer have any affordable rental supply, who can or will work these initial gigs on the ferries? Back in the day you could find an affordable rental or place in Sechelt/Gibsons/Langdale, now you can't. That combined with variable hours = good fucking luck finding people.

That seems so backasswards. They have to have permanent roles to fill and can't just temp their way through everything.

[Hondaracer]

That’s the way Vancouver school board works as well

My buddy worked casual there for like 3 summers and had to have a second job before finally getting on full time. School board is a garbage job though and you’d be insane to wait any length to get on with them

[CorneringArtist]

Drove to Seattle to visit family. Big ass puddle across the 99 before the border lanes, and the fucking lineup lanes are iced and unplowed. My bumper shaved off some of that surface slush in the Nexus lane. Once I got across though? It might as well be April weather.

[Hondaracer]

Port Mann still closed wtf..

[AzNightmare]

What's with all the floods and puddles I'm hearing?
I thought it would be fine once the streets have been cleared of snow, but now I'm hearing about extreme icy conditions, puddles, floods, potholes the size of a car (on Knight Bridge), lol wtf..

I've been holed up at home with a newborn for the past week, and I don't mind using him as the perfect excuse to not leave the house for anything, including work.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Ive been driving thru vancouver and burnaby for the past 2 hrs and ive seen nothing that should be cause for concern. Maybe if ur taking a bunch of side streets or alley ways driving on summer tires u might be in a abit of trouble......

[westopher]

Sea2sky closed, Duffey closed. No way in or out of whistler. Normally I’d give up a nut to be trapped in whistler with no way for everyone to get up there but with rain levels around 8000ft tomorrow, sounds no bueno.

[danned]

yes time to change to swimsuit to swim on vancouver street and road or even bridge
or even massy tunnel !!!

[MG1]

I went out to Maple Ridge today. Made the mistake of taking United Boulevard then onto the Mary Hill Bypass. Went through a huge lake at a fair clip - all four tires were submerged, lol. Kept my cool and just steered as straight as I could. The water slowed the truck right down. At the time, it just looked like any other puddle of water. The truck did well, but the VTM-4 light and Check Engine light came on. I stopped as soon as I could at the side of the road and turned the engine off and back on. The VTM-4 light went away, but the check engine light did not. I wasn't that worried, because the light wasn't flashing. Was going wait till I got home to reset the light. After a few hours of driving around, the CEL went out on its own.

I also missed the huge pothole on Lougheed just outside of Maple Ridge. Lots of cars on the side of the road with flat tires. Large puddle of water covering a sink hole from what I heard on City News 1130 and Traffic Radio 730 am..

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/how-to-get-your-money-back-for-pothole-damage-1.358605

[radeonboy]

Anyone have photos of those potholes on Knight Street and Maple Ridge?

[StylinRed]

I've been holed up at home with a newborn for the past week, and I don't mind using him as the perfect excuse to not leave the house for anything, including work.

Congratulations!!! :toot:

[tegra7]

Bus crash on B.C. highway sends 53 to hospital on Christmas Eve
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/bus-crash-on-b-c-highway-sends-53-to-hospital-on-christmas-eve-1.6208624

[supafamous]

https://twitter.com/jammonravager/status/1606579301557882881?s=20&t=NEtEdfxHKvjtWT4oQ1C3QA

somebody saved all the TikTok videos of the Seattle storm. Some great stuff in there. It was definitely way worse in Seattle than here.

[StylinRed]

Do they have the tiktok where someone's trying to stop their car from sliding down a hill and almost gets run over by their own suv?

[teggy604]

yes time to change to swimsuit to swim on vancouver street and road or even bridge
or even massy tunnel !!!

So any bets that the new Pattullo Bridge that is schedule to open 2024 is also going to fall to the same fate as the Port Mann Bridge?

[Dragon-88]

Got a nice unexpected Christmas card from the neighbor that I was helping plow during the snow. Even with all the plowing the uHaul truck couldn't make it up the hill. So, I lined up my plow to the hitch and gave them a push. Truck didnt make it the first run. So, I cleared a larger spot at the bottom of the hill, and we gave her a good Ol push and she made it up.

https://i.imgur.com/8VPoExM.jpg

[whitev70r]

^ need to list your ATV under Current in your signatue .. :lol

[GLOW]

Will the service and trades sectors largely consist of off-shore emergency workers while all the locals work in comfy tech office jobs in the glass towers

i was at a work break out session one with various people from different deptartments...one of the Operations guys referred to us office folk as us being in our Ivory Tower when discussing certain problems people faced at work, i was the only one that chuckled...

https://media.tenor.com/lzwviX3JiAEAAAAM/funny-true.gif

[Badhobz]

anyone else feels like now that the holidays are over (sort of, just waiting for new years eve) that youre all partied/food/gathered out? i just wanna be left alone playing skyrim VR w/ sex mods.

[tofu1413]

^ kinda know what you're getting at.


The week between christmas and new years is a bit of a slob /slacker mood to it.

things don't pick up until at least Jan 3-4th pending the day of the week.

[mikemhg]

anyone else feels like now that the holidays are over (sort of, just waiting for new years eve) that youre all partied/food/gathered out? i just wanna be left alone playing skyrim VR w/ sex mods.

Big time. My GF's bday on the 29th, and she decided to throw a party at a spot downtown this year tomorrow night and invited a bunch of my friends.

It's fine but I'm social gathered out for sure, NYE is definitely going to be lowkey.

[mb_]

anyone else feels like now that the holidays are over (sort of, just waiting for new years eve) that youre all partied/food/gathered out? i just wanna be left alone playing skyrim VR w/ sex mods.

I believe that term is "people'd out" which I am currently also experiencing :lol

[winson604]

^ kinda know what you're getting at.


The week between christmas and new years is a bit of a slob /slacker mood to it.

things don't pick up until at least Jan 3-4th pending the day of the week.

This is the time of year when I'm off for 1.5 weeks and go to town doing the deep clean stuff around the house. 5 days into my break I haven't lifted a finger and really not feeling up to it quite yet with the post Xmas slump now. Yawn.

[unit]

im just the opposite, i've been working a lot and my gf is home sick, so we havent really gone out at all. friend is hosting a nye party so i have that to look forward to to cap off the year.

[nismodrifter]

This is the time of year when I'm off for 1.5 weeks and go to town doing the deep clean stuff around the house. 5 days into my break I haven't lifted a finger and really not feeling up to it quite yet with the post Xmas slump now. Yawn.

I'm supposed to be in California right now. Flight cancellations killed our vacation. Been doing a small clean up project daily now and then relaxing a bit. Helps me stay sane.

Have had only 1 gathering at a friend's house for brunch and I am already "peopled out". Unsure why. Maybe it's because the last few Xmas have been spent in some form of isolation/restriction etc. I just don't enjoy get togethers as much as I used to.

[MG1]

Now I know why the Costco green valve caps are green. Who cares about nitrogen filled tyres. You can't lose these things. Green stands out in the snow and asphalt. I just picked up a set at the local Costco Tire shop (free). Black and grey just don't cut it. Sick of dropping the caps and not being able to find them, lol.

[AzNightmare]

This is the time of year when I'm off for 1.5 weeks and go to town doing the deep clean stuff around the house. 5 days into my break I haven't lifted a finger and really not feeling up to it quite yet with the post Xmas slump now. Yawn.

Time goes by way too fast...

[tofu1413]

This is the time of year when I'm off for 1.5 weeks and go to town doing the deep clean stuff around the house. 5 days into my break I haven't lifted a finger and really not feeling up to it quite yet with the post Xmas slump now. Yawn.

wife was working on christmas day and will be doing the same on new years day (RN)


And I find myself at home... sleeping in, make a good bowl of noodles and house cleaning.

seems to be the case for the past 3 years now.

[punkwax]

I hosted the family Christmas dinner then had friends over on Boxing Day. Two long shifts back to back. So much cooking and cleanup.

Hardly did a thing yesterday and still had a tough time getting out of bed this morning for work.

As much as I’d like to be peopled out my teens and their friends prefer hanging out at my place so I just made three batches of wings amongst other things to keep them fed and am now on my way to drop them off at the rink for a public skate.

Can’t wait for January 5th when school resumes :lol

[whitev70r]

Is this insanity?

Patullo Bridge replacement to use similar snow and ice removal system to Port Mann, Alex Fraser

https://globalnews.ca/news/9409699/patullo-bridge-replacement-snow-removal-system/

[RiceIntegraRS]

Not surprising. We all know this province is run by morons

[hud 91gt]

Considering the cost of a bridge…. Couldn’t they heat the effected pieces? Whether electrically, or plumbing fluid like hot water floors?? Geothermal? A few degrees would do it.

[whitev70r]

Considering the cost of a bridge…. Couldn’t they heat the effected pieces? Whether electrically, or plumbing fluid like hot water floors?? Geothermal? A few degrees would do it.

That's what I thought ... some simple mechanism to heat it up, I mean we can do it to bathroom floors, surely, they can build/install something into the cables. But no ... they are going to use that high tech dropping collars down the pole :ahwow:

So ... we can look forward to all 3 bridges shutting down maybe once a year! Government contracts and engineers ??!!

[RiceIntegraRS]

I still cant get over the fact that were replacing a 4 lane bridge with another 4 lane bridge..... like do we really need bike lanes and pedestrian walkways on both sides?

[supafamous]

I still cant get over the fact that were replacing a 4 lane bridge with another 4 lane bridge..... like do we really need bike lanes and pedestrian walkways on both sides?

Ummmm....yes? Like how do you expect people on foot or on bikes to cross the river? A bridge is not just for cars and why should pedestrians and bikes get any less priority than cars?

New West said hell no to 6 lanes because the roads on their side can't support the traffic and even at the same number of lanes the bridge should see a bit more volume since it's not going to be as dangerous.

The design of the bridge does allow for expansion to 6 lanes if needed down the road and the bike lanes and sidewalks would be hung off the side of the of the bridge instead. I doubt it happens in the next 30 years - we'll see congestion pricing show up before that and traffic forecasts have never come true over the years.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Im not saying they shouldnt get some type of priority but u dont prioritize 30% of the bridge for the less than 1% of the people that use it. Ive worked right beside that bridge, or used that bridge both ways everyday for the past 20+ years and i rarely see anyone ride or walk across that bridge. I think the main reason why i dont see bikers going across that bridge is cause the hill going up Scott Rd and King George are absolutely brutal to ride up. Ive tried in the past. Thats why i think just the one side(south side) would be the only side required for bike lane and pedestrian walkway cause thats where Scott Rd & Columbia Stations are.

Yes im aware that New west are totally against to having more traffic going through there city, but u know whats worse than having alil more traffic going thru new west. Alll the traffic stopped and bottled necked trying to get into and out of New West. They basically already have 8 lanes coming in and out of new west already, might as well utilize it. But hey thats just me....

[Traum]

As far as commuter riding is concerned, electric bikes have been a major game changer. I am not a biker myself, but according to a hardcore cyclist coworker, a typical layperson will probably pump out ~200 - 350W of power on a bike, and electric hub motors in the 250 - 350W range is a fairly basic/low end setup nowadays.

What that means is -- hills are no longer really any major obstacles for cyclists that commute on their bikes. IMO, weather remains the far bigger obstacle for people to adopt/embrace cycling to work/school.

Of course, I think it is ludicrous that NW stands firm in refusing a wider bridge.

[unit]

i use the patullo every day going east in the morning and west in the evening.
admittedly there is not a huge amount of bike traffic and even less foot traffic, but i could see the bike traffic increasing if it were safer. right now there is one single sidewalk for pedestrians and bikes that both directions share. when two bikes approach each other one must yield for the other or else passing on the unprotected sidewalk section of the bridge is extremely dangerous. if this were made safer then lots of people would cycle over this bridge imo. there is actually pretty decent biking infrastructure on both sides of the bridge already.

i cant help but to feel like they need a 6 lane bridge, because it gets way too congested going west in the morning and east in the evening. fortunately i go the opposite way, but the lineups that i see look stressful and depressing. going against the flow of traffic, it's completely problem free every day.

the new bridge would definitely help a little with congestion even as a 4 lane though, since semi trucks would no longer have to own the entire road with their hazard lights on so that nobody can unsafely pass them as they chug up the bridge at 30kph. still, during rush hour that isn't the main problem, its simply congested due to too many cars crossing over.

[Badhobz]

As far as commuter riding is concerned, electric bikes have been a major game changer. I am not a biker myself, but according to a hardcore cyclist coworker, a typical layperson will probably pump out ~200 - 350W of power on a bike, and electric hub motors in the 250 - 350W range is a fairly basic/low end setup nowadays.

What that means is -- hills are no longer really any major obstacles for cyclists that commute on their bikes. IMO, weather remains the far bigger obstacle for people to adopt/embrace cycling to work/school.

Of course, I think it is ludicrous that NW stands firm in refusing a wider bridge.

I tried it. I rode my Costco ebike from Richmond to downtown once and it’s do-able. I can then just charge the bike at work but there’s a few caveats.

- it’s slow. Bikes top out at 35kph and it’s quite annoyingly slow. Yes I can peddle to make it go faster than that but it requires quite a bit of effort since e-bikes are heavy as shit. Took about 45minutes on my bike one way.

- it’s kinda dangerous. Drivers aren’t looking out for bikes and I know the feeling of seeing one of these cycling retards on the street. You wanna just get around them which created a pretty dangerous situation for bikes. Yes you can stay on the bike lanes for the most part but it still sucks as intersections are quite dangerous.

- it’s not really pleasant. It’s cold, it’s windy, it’s rainy. I see why these guys only do it during fair weather. I also lack storage space so I added a side carrier to fit my work bag. Now it’s even heavier and less aerodynamic.

- other cyclists. Imagine a fleet of ratrollas going down the street at the same time and then sprinkle in a few Ferraris and gt3 RS. Most cyclists are slow as shit then you got these spandex wearing motherfuckers who goes like 45kph in their ultralight graphite bicycles yelling on your left all the time. God forbid you don’t hear them and then they give you shit for not letting them pass. You need a side mirror mod on bikes for sure if you’re commuting.

- lights. Can’t see shit at night. I could get some high powered led headlights but then ill just get my shit kicked in by some angry driver. Most of these paths aren’t that well lit and you can’t really see the potholes.

[tegra7]

Snow in the forecast for next week
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/14-day-weather-trend/british-columbia/vancouver

[yray]

Snow in the forecast for next week
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/14-day-weather-trend/british-columbia/vancouver

better tell acura604

[Acura604]

https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/ar0/c50b56aa268846ffc63560fcd24a3f10.jpg

i'll be in Bellevue anyways - and besides, SH-AWD FTW - even with all seasons.

[tegra7]

https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/ar0/c50b56aa268846ffc63560fcd24a3f10.jpg

i'll be in Bellevue anyways - and besides, SH-AWD FTW - even with all seasons.

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/14-day-weather-trend/washington/bellevue

[N.V.M.]

it will be so cold I'm a couple of days you'll see politicians with their hands in their own pockets.

[tegra7]

Is it snowing out there anywhere?

[Bender Unit]

https://media.tenor.com/GkY0BS3F0R4AAAAM/the-rock-just-bring-it.gif SNOW

[tofu1413]

Fingers crossed for one fat dump of snow.

[EvoFire]

Fingers crossed for one fat dump of snow.

GTR to the rescue

[whitev70r]

Woot ... there it is. Lightly covered roads in South Van.

[Badhobz]

it's pretty lame. not much snow at all.... disappointed

[supafamous]

Ready for the chaos of the morning commute caused by 10mm of snow!

[RiceIntegraRS]

Its actually pretty icey out there

[hud 91gt]

We covered in PoCo.

[yray]

vancouver roads between grandview hwy and 49th ave are a sheet of ice

[whitev70r]

yah, that perfect combination of ice on some of the roads. Careful out there. Cue the close Port Mann, Alex Fraser bridge announcement. Or drop those silly de-icing rings on those cables!

[inv4zn]

New West is also largely ice.

Larger roads are fine though.

[supafamous]

vancouver roads between grandview hwy and 49th ave are a sheet of ice

Saw a low speed rear ender at 28th/Boundary on the way to work - car coming down 28th onto Boundary couldn't stop in time and gave a 5-10kph bump to the car in front.

We're just incredible drivers here.

[tegra7]

Dude seriously
https://i.postimg.cc/1tZ6P6pm/8-E2920-DB-CA8-A-44-C2-BA84-72-CCBBF223-B0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5HnjSX7T)

[GLOW]

Dude seriously
https://i.postimg.cc/1tZ6P6pm/8-E2920-DB-CA8-A-44-C2-BA84-72-CCBBF223-B0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5HnjSX7T)

http://i.pinimg.com/564x/4f/99/cc/4f99cc799353c38ea2fc2dee7fb467f7--american-dad-los-simpsons.jpg

[AzNightmare]

Better that than this though??

https://i.imgur.com/NqKB00Z.png

[tegra7]

I raise you this
https://i.postimg.cc/Zn73p5MX/5510-E449-23-AA-4-B23-BF4-B-6-F52-DCCA75-B5.jpg (https://postimg.cc/PvDPkThM)

[inv4zn]

^dafuq, is that from today??

[tegra7]

Sure is

[donk.]

BIC_BAWS make sure you load up on snacks and extra dinner for your 11.5hr drive home tonight

[GLOW]

you forgot to tell him to take a piss jar with him... pickle jar is best... just in case you gotta #2 as well :badpokerface::nyan:EleGiggle

[coneZONE]

forbidden pickles

[AzNightmare]

https://twitter.com/chrisgailus/status/1620576517834276865

sigh...
:facepalm:

[tofu1413]

Not a lot of snow…. But there was sure. Lot of black ice this morning.

A lot of individuals yet again didn’t adjust their driving or equip better tires…. Semi shit show but we had much worse.

[Badhobz]

https://twitter.com/chrisgailus/status/1620576517834276865

sigh...
:facepalm:

lawl ill take richmond potentially sinking into the ocean vs every year potentially getting side swiped by a bus/idiot/truck/bear in the high elevations

[ZordosZZ]

https://i.postimg.cc/Kc3VRfky/VID-710-Moment.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cH2bFgzj/VID-698-Moment.jpg
from my commute this morning. just seen the aftermath so no recording of it happening

[yray]

the bus pulled a pretty good drift though

[TOS'd]

10/10 drift

[320icar]

How the fuck does ANY OF THIS HAPPEN!?!?!?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/017/thumb.png

[Badhobz]

Me: Skinner !!!!!
Vancouver: Super Nintendo charmers !
Me: why is it that when I hear 0.33mm of snow and busses doing mad max drifts I automatically think of you ?
Vancouver: we had no warning! Completely unexpected. And Aurora Borealis
Me: aurora borealias. At this time of year? At this latitude? Localized in this city ? May I see it ?
Vancouver: no….

[westopher]

lawl ill take richmond potentially sinking into the ocean vs every year potentially getting side swiped by a bus/idiot/truck/bear in the high elevationsYou don't need snow in Richmond for the likelihood of the sideswipe to equal those of the places with snow.

[68style]

I’ve been in Richmond for my whole life and I’ve only sideswiped like 12 people… so many years I never sideswiped anyone !

[Badhobz]

yeah exactly! i dont see anything or hear anything... DO YOU!?!?!

http://i.imgur.com/gjJikyF.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/d8/ce/67d8ce59515a886c8defb664e74bd1c4.gif

[GLOW]

forbidden pickles

start at 7:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKyHy9-Su2c

[tegra7]

Theres snow in the forecast
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/14-day-weather-trend/british-columbia/vancouver

[ilovebacon]

one last time up the mountains before the season is over?

[westopher]

March is the best month for riding, pretty much every year.

[Manic!]

Is it snowing on the mainland because it's snowing like crazy in Nanaimo. Lots of snow on the ground.

[danned]

come on man, make it hard, i want a summer tire meet on highways

[Acura604]

ah hell.... g/f wants to drive to MERRITT next week for cabin fun so no choice i guess but to...


....

....

slap on the winter wheels/tires.

[blkgsr]

one last time up the mountains before the season is over?

locals maybe but they suck all season long

whistler will go for months yet

[whitev70r]

ah hell.... g/f wants to drive to MERRITT next week for cabin fun so no choice i guess but to...

slap on the winter wheels/tires.

pics of gf to see if it is worth the hassle of changing out to winters.

[Badhobz]

MERITT!??! CABIN!?!?!? must be white ....

[Acura604]

she's a frickin' super model i tell ya. .. .worth it.

but fack - gotta navigate the coquihalla

[EvoFire]

The coq isn't that bad.

[SkunkWorks]

ah hell.... g/f wants to drive to MERRITT next week for cabin fun so no choice i guess but to...


....

....

slap on the winter wheels/tires.

Did wife say yes to the house sale finally?

[Acura604]

Did wife say yes to the house sale finally?

ex wife.

[sonick]

she's a frickin' super model i tell ya. .. .worth it.

but fack - gotta navigate the coquihalla

ex wife.

Legend.

Hope you swap wives less frequently than your winters.

[ilovebacon]

locals maybe but they suck all season long

whistler will go for months yet

For a beginner like myself, I was quite confident skiing at cypress. With the ego I have, how hard can whistler be haha? After getting off the gondola midpoint section, I fell a dozen times reaching the bottom. That's when I knew i had a lot more to learn

[roastpuff]

https://i.imgur.com/Ym0gsRB.png

Here we go again!

[Gumby]

https://i.imgur.com/Ym0gsRB.png

Here we go again!

At least it’s not on a weekday!

[Badhobz]

Bring it !!!!! This winter isn’t winter-ish enough.

[westopher]

It's going to snow 1mm and melt within 6 minutes like every other time they issue one of these warnings lol.

[EvoFire]

^ What Westopher said. Way too advance and predicts way too much snow, we are gonna get nothing lol