[Jmac]

That’s 1 confirmed positive for every 9458 people in the USA ... in 1 day ...

That would be equivalent to 536 confirmed cases in BC in one day (we had 13 yesterday IIRC).

Fucking wild

[Ch28]

That’s 1 confirmed positive for every 9458 people in the USA ... in 1 day ...

That would be equivalent to 536 confirmed cases in BC in one day (we had 13 yesterday IIRC).

Fucking wild

Don't need to worry about unemployment numbers when they're all dead

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/d6a/dc7/4a5001b7beea096457f480c8808572428b-09-roll-safe.rsquare.w700.jpg

[buhdeh]

California will be reporting over 7000 new cases today.

[SkinnyPupp]

Mandatory masks in North Carolina today

NY, NJ, and CT are quarantining travelers from the "most open" states (FL, GA)

Trump is defunding nationwide testing in order to bring the number of reported cases down

He also said he doesn't know what the "19" means in Covid-19 which was discovered in 2019.

[320icar]

I wager north (or south) Carolina won’t give two flying fucks what the commies try to make mandatory. They’ll wear masks when you pry the fully auto shotguns and 50 cal rifles (for protection of course) from their cold dead hands

[Teriyaki]

Dirty politics at its worst. Reducing testing to keep up a slightly better image, all in the hope it helps their poll numbers.

I fear for when the border re-opens between the two countries.

[mikemhg]

I am completely confused here.

Washington State just saw a huge spike in cases, and they are literally right next door to us.

We've had the same protests, we've opened up our economy, yet we're not seeing increased cases.

How can our counterparts literally KMs away be having such a different outcome? For sure healthcare is a piece of it, but in terms of the city setup, both Vancouver and Seattle are quite similar, one could argue more people use cars in Seattle, and public transit is more utilized in Vancouver here.

I supposed there's much more internal country travel in the US to account for these spikes? Or are we simply testing much less?

[Hondaracer]

For what it’s worth, our good friend who runs a big portion of the interior health where they do the intake for covid testing had an interesting take

She said when it’s a sunny, warm day, or even just good enough to be outside weather, they literally get zero calls about testing

The second it gets rainy or cold the lines light up

It has to be due to a lack of testing here, I don’t see any other way.

This morning on the news they had graphs laying out each province with cases and deaths, Quebec looked like a similar trajectory to Florida etc where as B.C. has been as flat as can possibly be and follows the trend of some of the best countries in the world like New Zealand etc.

Dr.Henry on that no test no cases vibe?

[mikemhg]

For what it’s worth, our good friend who runs a big portion of the interior health where they do the intake for covid testing had an interesting take

She said when it’s a sunny, warm day, or even just good enough to be outside weather, they literally get zero calls about testing

The second it gets rainy or cold the lines light up

It has to be due to a lack of testing here, I don’t see any other way.

This morning on the news they had graphs laying out each province with cases and deaths, Quebec looked like a similar trajectory to Florida etc where as B.C. has been as flat as can possibly be and follows the trend of some of the best countries in the world like New Zealand etc.

Dr.Henry on that no test no cases vibe?

You might be totally right there, who knows, I'm at a loss here myself.

[SkinnyPupp]

Interpret this

Edit: I added a red dot on the first chart, where the second chart ends

https://i.imgur.com/9t3Wksx.png

[CivicBlues]

I am completely confused here.

Washington State just saw a huge spike in cases, and they are literally right next door to us.

We've had the same protests, we've opened up our economy, yet we're not seeing increased cases.

How can our counterparts literally KMs away be having such a different outcome? For sure healthcare is a piece of it, but in terms of the city setup, both Vancouver and Seattle are quite similar, one could argue more people use cars in Seattle, and public transit is more utilized in Vancouver here.

I supposed there's much more internal country travel in the US to account for these spikes? Or are we simply testing much less?

Possibly due to more inter-state travel, but probably due to the fact they didn't have their outbreak under control before they opened up.

[westopher]

I am completely confused here.

Washington State just saw a huge spike in cases, and they are literally right next door to us.

We've had the same protests, we've opened up our economy, yet we're not seeing increased cases.

How can our counterparts literally KMs away be having such a different outcome? For sure healthcare is a piece of it, but in terms of the city setup, both Vancouver and Seattle are quite similar, one could argue more people use cars in Seattle, and public transit is more utilized in Vancouver here.

I supposed there's much more internal country travel in the US to account for these spikes? Or are we simply testing much less?
It’s simple math. You start with 120 active cases then see exponential growth, or you start with 20000 active cases. If every person with the disease comes who comes in contact with others gives it to two people. Probability of any public contact is a lot lower when your cases are isolated in BC, compared to widespread cases in Washington. Just look at the probabilities of community transmission.
No one needs to put a tinfoil hat on about BCs testing (not directed at you) just look at the starting numbers and it explains everything.

[Hondaracer]

How about BC vs Quebec though?

Just different approaches which led to uncontained outbreaks I guess

[Hondaracer]

Interpret this

Edit: I added a red dot on the first chart, where the second chart ends

https://i.imgur.com/9t3Wksx.png

On the surface this looks like the people who were going to die from it have already died. Immunocomprimised, the elderly, etc.

All the while testing is increasing and as a result positive cases are going up.

That’s basically what I said on the previous page. How many new cases are critical VS asymptomatic

[westopher]

For sure more testing means more cases, but if you want an accurate picture of what’s going on you need to look at all the data. There’s no way to argue that the lack of cases in BC is due to lack of testing. The deaths tell you what you need to know. Quebec has 35x the Covid cases that bc has. They also have 35x the deaths.

[SkinnyPupp]

On the surface this looks like the people who were going to die from it have already died. Immunocomprimised, the elderly, etc.

All the while testing is increasing and as a result positive cases are going up.

That’s basically what I said on the previous page. How many new cases are critical VS asymptomatic
That's what I'm thinking too. The problem is the death data lags behind by 3 weeks. I guess we can look again in 3 weeks (using the same "new cases" chart since that will definitely go down once they stop testing so much)

[TOS'd]

Went grocery shopping here. Signs saying mask are required inside. Notice people shopping without masks. Employees don't bother saying anything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[SkinnyPupp]

Enforcement is relaxing quite a bit here as well. Before you'd walk into a restaurant and 100% you'd have your temperature scanned. There would be barriers on tables, and signs telling you to keep the masks on until your food arrives

Now half the time they don't even bother scanning, it's just random. And when they do, it happens so fast that I doubt they're even waiting for the temp to read LUL

Still, about 95% people are still wearing masks. The first to stop are the foreigners it seems, or old people who are just "over it". I still wear mine, but when I'm outdoors and it's not crowded, I'll just cover my mouth so I can breathe through my nose. I feel like it's not too risky in HK at the moment.

[ssjGoku69]

Who are "foreigners" to you?



Ooops never mind, you're in HK

[Jmac]

For what it’s worth, our good friend who runs a big portion of the interior health where they do the intake for covid testing had an interesting take

She said when it’s a sunny, warm day, or even just good enough to be outside weather, they literally get zero calls about testing

The second it gets rainy or cold the lines light up

It has to be due to a lack of testing here, I don’t see any other way.

This morning on the news they had graphs laying out each province with cases and deaths, Quebec looked like a similar trajectory to Florida etc where as B.C. has been as flat as can possibly be and follows the trend of some of the best countries in the world like New Zealand etc.

Dr.Henry on that no test no cases vibe?
Last I checked, it’s been raining a lot this month. On pace for 2nd wettest June in the past 10 years.

[Great68]

Man all the Florida sun really cooks the brains of people in that state:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/

[mikemhg]

Man all the Florida sun really cooks the brains of people in that state:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/

HOLY FUCK. My god, that video made me so hopeless. How are people this fucking stupid in this age of technology and knowledge?

It's amazing how we can't even come to agree about something as trivial as a mask during a pandemic. Unbelievable.

[Hondaracer]

This type of shit is going through ImGur etc

https://i.imgur.com/sftTxyC.jpg

Jesus Christ people are stupid. Like I’m not overly crazy/concerned about wearing a mask but if I go into a private business or even a Costco etc and they are offering me/recommending me to wear a mask, absolutely no problem.

To think people think they have some general right to absolutely refuse to wear one in private businesses based on some stupid rights bullshit Jesus, the US is -fucked-

[welfare]

To think people think they have some general right to absolutely refuse to wear one in private businesses based on some stupid rights bullshit Jesus, the US is -fucked-

Rescinded, as of this morning apparently.
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/coronavirus/article243773412.html

[underscore]

This type of shit is going through ImGur etc

https://i.imgur.com/sftTxyC.jpg

Jesus Christ people are stupid. Like I’m not overly crazy/concerned about wearing a mask but if I go into a private business or even a Costco etc and they are offering me/recommending me to wear a mask, absolutely no problem.

To think people think they have some general right to absolutely refuse to wear one in private businesses based on some stupid rights bullshit Jesus, the US is -fucked-

"posses"

:lol

[SkinnyPupp]

NY Times, with another amazing visualisation (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-spread.html) (they are really good at this).

This one shows how the virus spread through the US undetected. With hindsight, we can see just how badly they fucked up (mostly because they tried to "save the economy" as some here wanted Canada to do as well)

(the first couple slides didn't fully load for me, keep going if it doesn't for you)

[320icar]

So for today, Canada shows ~274 new cases. America shows ~37,945

If the government decides to open the border too early, is there any way the citizens can vote and make them keep it closed? As of right now America is our biggest threat

[punkwax]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QElKVs56z48

"posses"

:lol

[unit]

i'm really proud of canada for keeping their cases down. premiers in all provinces have been very responsible in their handling of covid. it got a bit scary out east for a while but they've done a great job since. the US has 11x more ppl than us but they're doing more than 10x worse even after you take that into account.

[Nlkko]

i'm really proud of canada for keeping their cases down. premiers in all provinces have been very responsible in their handling of covid. it got a bit scary out east for a while but they've done a great job since. the US has 11x more ppl than us but they're doing more than 10x worse even after you take that into account.

100. I'm incredibly thankful by this.

[SkinnyPupp]

Likewise, I'm proud of the people of Hong Kong for swiftly taking action on their own, to the point where they're basically a case study of the right way to handle the virus. And on top of that, the healthcare workers who formed a union overnight with thousands of members, going on strike to force the govt to shut down the border to China.

Even the protests which have been going on for almost a year by that point had been put on hold to prevent the virus from spreading. This isn't to call out protesters of other issues going on right now, but stands out to me as incredibly responsible. Compare that to people refusing to wear masks, claiming it infringes upon their rights (how many are the same who want to ban Burkas I wonder)

[buhdeh]

Florida reported 9000 new cases yesterday.

[westopher]

US govt - “let’s try Sweden’s approach”
Sweden - “our approach was a proven failure”
US govt - “what? Did someone say something?”

[dachinesedude]

Man all the Florida sun really cooks the brains of people in that state:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/

here's a longer version; some of these people are crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME

[Obsideon]

here's a longer version; some of these people are crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME

I couldn't finish watching that I wanted to punch my screen.

[SkinnyPupp]

Moved all the discussion of getting flights refunded over to Because of this Pandemic (https://www.revscene.net/forums/716861-because-pandemic.html)

[whitev70r]

OK, fess up ... who's been to Brandi's lately ...

COVID-19: Health officials warn Vancouver strip club patrons of possible virus exposure (https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-19-health-officials-warn-vancouver-strip-club-patrons-of-possible-covid-19-exposure/wcm/e8ce641f-2b35-47d2-9a0c-bfc39581c640/)

[westopher]

If I’m going to the strip club it’s gonna be no.5

[sonick]

If I’m going to the strip club it’s gonna be no.5

+1. They take health and safety seriously unlike Brandis: https://vancouversun.com/business/local-business/dancers-protected-by-plexiglas-at-popular-vancouver-strip-club

[ImportPsycho]

OK, fess up ... who's been to Brandi's lately ...

COVID-19: Health officials warn Vancouver strip club patrons of possible virus exposure (https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-19-health-officials-warn-vancouver-strip-club-patrons-of-possible-covid-19-exposure/wcm/e8ce641f-2b35-47d2-9a0c-bfc39581c640/)


FailFish:facepalm:

[westopher]

+1. They take health and safety seriously unlike Brandis: https://vancouversun.com/business/local-business/dancers-protected-by-plexiglas-at-popular-vancouver-strip-club
The strippers are way cooler at no.5 as well.

[Ch28]

If I’m going to the strip club it’s gonna be no.5

https://i.imgur.com/oakpfH5.gif

[ImportPsycho]

Is Costco exempted from enforcing social distancing? or phase 3 doesn't require social distancing?
went to Costco today and it was a PACKED inside, like any pre-c19 weekends, no more lining up and limiting the number of people inside.
I didn't feel too uncomfortable with zero social distancing because almost everyone wore mask, some people still didn't, despite Costco was giving away free mask at the door... But I thought SD is still being enforced

[Jmac]

File a complaint to the local Costco, head office, and the health authority.

[underscore]

https://i.imgur.com/oakpfH5.gif

Thanked for Ryan and Espo

[320icar]

Is Costco exempted from enforcing social distancing? or phase 3 doesn't require social distancing?
went to Costco today and it was a PACKED inside, like any pre-c19 weekends, no more lining up and limiting the number of people inside.
I didn't feel too uncomfortable with zero social distancing because almost everyone wore mask, some people still didn't, despite Costco was giving away free mask at the door... But I thought SD is still being enforced

As I have said many times in this thread, call it in. Complain to management, call the local bylaw department or the non emergency line etc. Make your voice heard or else nothing will be done

[Gumby]

Which Costco location was this?

[StylinRed]

here's a longer version; some of these people are crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME

I'm not always keen with Now This News because I've noticed them edit some stories through omission, which makes the story misleading, but this, omg! :lol I can't believe these ppl, I wish this was an Onion story omg

[Jmac]

I'm not always keen with Now This News because I've noticed them edit some stories through omission, which makes the story misleading, but this, omg! :lol I can't believe these ppl, I wish this was an Onion story omg
The Onion is more credible than real life these days.

[MelonBoy]

Is Costco exempted from enforcing social distancing? or phase 3 doesn't require social distancing?
went to Costco today and it was a PACKED inside, like any pre-c19 weekends, no more lining up and limiting the number of people inside.
I didn't feel too uncomfortable with zero social distancing because almost everyone wore mask, some people still didn't, despite Costco was giving away free mask at the door... But I thought SD is still being enforced

I think people are finally realizing other countries in asia who can't really social distance has done fine without it. As long as everyone wears a mask & other sanitizing procedures.

To all those assholes to inconvenienced to keep they mask on during shopping, At places like costco when they even hands out free masks and requires you to wear them inside. I hope you catch a disease and die. Selfish cunts :)

[ImportPsycho]

Which Costco location was this?

Langley

[StylinRed]

I went out to the Canadian Tire in Langley the other day, some employees had masks, but the store was packed, and customers didn't have masks

And there's this article today about Guilford centre
https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/06/28/guildford-mall-customers-ignoring-distancing-amidst-covid/

[Hondaracer]

Everything in that article is exactly what I said about Metrotown 2 weeks ago

[pastarocket]

The Daily Shit posted this article about 6 flights this month with Covid carrying passengers..

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/covid-19-cases-flights-vancouver

Two International flights from seattle/LA to Vancouver. (Delta, AC)

Four domestic flights from Vancouver, Saskatoon, and Toronto. (WestJet, AC, Flair)


The strip show must go at Brandi's :lawl:

Vancouver Coast Health is allowing Brandi's to re-open.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-strip-club-brandis-reopening-coronavirus

[Manic!]

Snitch line if you see an American.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105499378_3049572955091361_7127636170477390192_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=_-tbA84IVKwAX8ORl6A&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=bf1391481193b5303e8eaee648ba7132&oe=5F2158AB

[EuterVanWasser]

Snitch line if you see an American.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105499378_3049572955091361_7127636170477390192_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=_-tbA84IVKwAX8ORl6A&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=bf1391481193b5303e8eaee648ba7132&oe=5F2158AB

I just googled that phone number and multiple pages of it being a scam phone number and not a legit gov't number. Just sayin.

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah everything about that screenshot looks fake af LUL

[320icar]

Just slash their tires like a normal citizen

[Jmac]

In the past 4 days, I’ve seen a bunch of US plates: Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, and even a New York plate.

[Mikoyan]

Just slash their tires like a normal citizen

Like this guy?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/saanich-tire-slash-1.3956211

[CivicBlues]

Want to see a whole buncha American plates? Go to any Whole Foods parking lot, they're all there for some reason. A lot of them have roof racks filled with rec equipment too so not sure if they're resident here or whatever

[twitchyzero]

i never realized how many WA plates are in residential areas until the past month or so

[StylinRed]

They're allowed to travel up to Alaska I believe so they just vacation in bc along the way, if they even make it to alaska

[twitchyzero]

^ nope you can get fined for stopping nonessentially

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/rcmp-americans-banff-alaska-1.5621452

[StylinRed]

Well of course, but who's going to enforce that? Just like the police having the ability to give ppl social distancing violation tickets, they only gave their 1st one out the other day

Impressed Alberta police gave out 7 tho

[twitchyzero]

pretty simple if they want to

US plated vehicle packed with travel gear...if they’re outside a direct route to Alaska not for food or lodging pharmacy etc = ticket

[GLOW]

what if they don't pay those fines? can't they just bite their thumb at it, or is it as scary as a canadian not paying a fine in the US?

seems like limiting future access at the border would be a greater deterant to others than a fine...

[Jmac]

pretty simple if they want to

US plated vehicle packed with travel gear...if they’re outside a direct route to Alaska not for food or lodging pharmacy etc = ticket
Ticket? Fuck that, escorted back to the border and denied entry into Canada.

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kiJ4PbNABY

US is fucked. $200 for a covid test? I bet the numbers are way higher than reported because people don't want to pay for the test. At this rate, the border is never going to open up.

[!LittleDragon]

Actual cases may be 10x higher

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/25/coronavirus-cases-10-times-larger/

[SkinnyPupp]

Update to this

California Gov. Newsom Makes Face Masks Mandatory Amid Rising Coronavirus Cases (https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/18/880583357/california-gov-newsom-makes-face-masks-mandatory-amid-rising-coronavirus-cases)

Florida Keys requiring face masks until June 2021 (https://weartv.com/news/local/florida-keys-requiring-masks-inside-businesses-through-june-2021)
Masks are now mandatory in Texas (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/texas-issues-state-wide-order-requiring-face-coverings.html)

[SkinnyPupp]

WHO admits China never reported the existence of coronavirus outbreak (https://apnews.com/3c061794970661042b18d5aeaaed9fae)

[SumAznGuy]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/alabama-coronavirus-parties-trnd/index.html
Alabama covid parties

:rukidding:

50,000 positive cases 2 days in a row in the US and with the long weekend, I can see them hit a new high of 100,000 positive cases per day.

[Manic!]

Former GOP candidate and trump supporter who attended trumps Tulsa rally in in a hospital for covid.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/herman-cain-hospitalized-with-covid-19.html

Former presidential candidate and onetime possible Fed board nominee Herman Cain was hospitalized Wednesday and is being treated for the coronavirus.
Cain, 74, was told Monday that he had tested positive for the disease, according to a statement posted to his official Twitter account. By Wednesday, he “had developed symptoms serious enough that he required hospitalization,” the statement said.
Cain was at President Donald Trump’s rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, last month, and was photographed sitting in close proximity with other attendees, none of whom appeared to be wearing masks.

[danned]

they should ask mr trump to join the party

[SkinnyPupp]

All community outbreaks of coronavirus in BC now declared over (https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coronavirus-cases-deaths-community-outbreaks-bc)

[Bouncing Bettys]

I can't keep up
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1278964201789194240

[Manic!]

I can't keep up
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1278964201789194240

You should not have to.

[Presto]

The report states that it excluded more than 400 patients. That would seem to skew results.


https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext#secsect0100

The first COVID-19 case confirmed at HFHS by RT-PCR was on March 10, 2020, any patients admitted before March 10th and subsequently tested positive were also included in the analyses. There was a total of 2,948 COVID-19 admissions, of these, 267 (9%) patients had not been discharged, 15 (0.5%) left against medical advice, and four (0.1%) were transferred to another healthcare facility; these patients were excluded from analysis as we could not ascertain their outcome. In addition, there were 121 (4.1%) readmissions, which were also excluded.

[Hondaracer]

Lol I’m in Penticton right now, RIP social distancing.

Gone to 3 restaurants and breweries and it’s got worse at each one. The pizza place in at now has regular capacity with strangers sharing our same 6 person table

[HonestTea]

Lol I’m in Penticton right now, RIP social distancing.

Gone to 3 restaurants and breweries and it’s got worse at each one. The pizza place in at now has regular capacity with strangers sharing our same 6 person table

Damn...might be going Penticton in August

[Ch28]

Lol I’m in Penticton right now, RIP social distancing.

Gone to 3 restaurants and breweries and it’s got worse at each one. The pizza place in at now has regular capacity with strangers sharing our same 6 person table

I forgot where I saw it, but there's a number you can call to report businesses not adhering to the rules set out.

They removed the 50% capacity limit provided that businesses can safely allow more than 50%.

[Hondaracer]

Like when I said “no one wears masks” in Vancouver it was still 15-20%

Here I’ve literally seen 4 people wearing them lol..came to another brewery, it’s probably twice the size of parallel 49’s interior space and they have a max posted occupancy of 82

Also in general people do not respect distancing inside of places, in lines etc. every place I’ve gone people getting nice and close.. pretty bad tbh and it’s every place I’ve gone today (5 diff places)

[underscore]

That's what I was saying a few weeks back and got shit on for it. People in the interior are doing fuck all.

[Ch28]

That's what I was saying a few weeks back and got shit on for it. People in the interior are doing fuck all.

It's not just the interior. We were in the PoMo area last weekend and only saw a handful of people wearing masks. Everyone else was walking around like it's pre-COVID and clearly not following physical distancing.

[320icar]

https://youtu.be/XGDJSH7wUWQ

If someone walks up to you and aggressively coughs in your face, do you have a right to reasonable self defence? Aka a firm fucking right hook to their jaw

[Hehe]

WHO confirms that China was not the first to report the virus but its own office in China did after multiple alerts.

Fuck, Tedro should resign.

[RRxtar]

0 cases in the interior health region for weeks.

[SkinnyPupp]

I was wondering about this before, so I thought I'd share the tweet here

https://twitter.com/mbeckett/status/1278750652160634880

[GLOW]

https://youtu.be/XGDJSH7wUWQ

If someone walks up to you and aggressively coughs in your face, do you have a right to reasonable self defence? Aka a firm fucking right hook to their jaw

seems to me it's the equivalent of being spat on, which i believe is considered assault no? i think you're allowed self defense within reason...whatever that is...

she's lucky she was able to cough and walk away, could have ended up like that 1 woman on TMZ where she said the n-word in a convenience store at another woman and got a beat down for it.

[Jmac]

0 cases in the interior health region for weeks.
1 in the Island Health region since May 7.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's been a bit over a month since the BLM protests started taking place

Out of curiosity, I wanted to see how the states with the largest protests (Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC) but also otherwise relatively still closed, compared to some states that opened bars and restaurants around the same time (Florida, Arizona, Texas)

Chart starts around mid-May, before George Floyd was murdered

https://i.imgur.com/0hFO5XH.png

The differences: One is a HUGE gathering of people, but outdoors, and almost all wearing masks. The other is smaller groups of people, but indoors, and not wearing masks

Also you know there were protests in Vancouver (no new local cases) Hong Kong (no new local cases) and around the world

Wear a damn mask!

[SkinnyPupp]

Spain's coronavirus antibodies study adds evidence against herd immunity (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/health/spain-coronavirus-antibody-study-lancet-intl/index.html)

One of the hardest hit countries has 5% of the population with antibodies (herd immunity will need 70-90%)

Also there are studies showing people lose their antibodies after a while

[68style]

^ Saw that flash by on the news ticker too, people who had antibodies had lost them even just weeks later!

[unit]

i think it's fair to say that BLM protests do contribute to increases the same way any large gatherings do. 10,000 people protesting is still not as significant as millions of people being careless in their everyday lives though, which is the bigger cause of spiking.

[blkgsr]

Lol I’m in Penticton right now, RIP social distancing.

Gone to 3 restaurants and breweries and it’s got worse at each one. The pizza place in at now has regular capacity with strangers sharing our same 6 person table

i was in the okanagan since tuesday and did wine tastings in vernon, kelowna, naramata and oliver

basically the further south you went the less covid precautions there were

that being said, most did keep a 6' distance but some it was like there was nothing going on at all

as for the general public....saw VERY VERY few people in masks

[SkinnyPupp]

^ Saw that flash by on the news ticker too, people who had antibodies had lost them even just weeks later!
I guess that might mean vaccine is literally the only way out of this

[RRxtar]

Did I read that the US has changed policy from counting only confirmed cases to "presumptive cases" ?

[G]

Was in Victoria and Kelowna for a business trip...felt like I was the only one wearing a mask.... doesn't help that it seemed like I was the only asian too lol

[blkgsr]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7147713/jair-bolsonaro-brazil-president-tests-positive-coronavirus/

ain't karma a bitch

[twitchyzero]

I guess that might mean vaccine is literally the only way out of this

might even need frequent boosters too unless it's completely eradicated

[CivicBlues]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7147713/jair-bolsonaro-brazil-president-tests-positive-coronavirus/

ain't karma a bitch

if he recovers quickly, he'll just use this to bolster his whole "It's just a little flu" rhetoric.

[StylinRed]

I'm thinking he's not even sick, he's just pretending he has it, so he can laugh about recovering quickly thx to his pills

[bcrdukes]

if he recovers quickly, he'll just use this to bolster his whole "It's just a little flu" rhetoric.

:pokerface:

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm thinking he's not even sick, he's just pretending he has it, so he can laugh about recovering quickly thx to his pills
That's honestly what I think Brandon Schaub is doing (he's a Joe Rogan toadie/failed MMA fighter who is now a podcaster) He has been one of the more outspoken Coronavirus deniers. Now he says he has it, and is going on bike rides out in public and tweeting about how he felt fine after 2 days. I think he'll be even more obnoxious once he's "recovered"

I don't listen to him but a lot of people do

[SkinnyPupp]

Remember when we had people in here saying everyone should follow Sweden's lead, because "the economy"

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1280557237543501830

[whitev70r]

^ lots of people will be praying for him to 'get well'.

[Obsideon]

I'm thinking he's not even sick, he's just pretending he has it, so he can laugh about recovering quickly thx to his pills

https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/1297448664_jude-law-468.jpg?w=200

[Manic!]

Anyone who thinks the cons would have done just as good of a job as the liberals when it comes to covid-19.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andrew-scheer-pearson-airport-no-mask-1.5640979

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5641003.1594153924!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/andrew-scheer.jpg

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer was seen at a departure gate at Toronto's Pearson Airport today without a mask on — an apparent contravention of the rules that apply to all travellers passing through the terminal.

The airport's website stipulates that "all passengers and airport employees" must wear a mask or a face covering "at all times." The mandatory mask rule has been in place since June 1 to stop the spread of COVID-19 among the travelling public.

"This includes the pre- and post-security screening areas of the terminals, parking facilities, people mover train, sidewalks/curbs outside the terminals and other outdoor public areas," the airport rules say.

There are exceptions for people under the age of two, travellers who are unable to remove a face covering without assistance and for people who have trouble breathing. Masks are not required for travellers dining at food and beverage locations.

[Jmac]

Distancing appears to be adequate, at least between Scheer and others. The two guys opposite him are only one seat apart from each other. That said, it sets a bad example and, as a leader, he should abide by the rules.

I don’t think this is proof that the conservatives would’ve been any better/worse. Scheer is a douche, though, and I have no idea how he’s still party leader almost a year after losing the election plus the scandals he’s been involved in since.

[Manic!]

Distancing appears to be adequate, at least between Scheer and others. The two guys opposite him are only one seat apart.

I don’t think this is proof that the conservatives would’ve been any better/worse. Scheer is a douche, though, and I have no idea how he’s still party leader almost a year after losing the election plus the scandals he’s been involved in since.

masks are mandatory at the airport. He can't even follow basic rules.

RS sponsor hit with covid.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7150739/vancouver-no5-orange-strip-club-closed-coronavirus/

[mikemhg]

if he recovers quickly, he'll just use this to bolster his whole "It's just a little flu" rhetoric.

Precisely.

[Nlkko]

I'm surprised they haven't ended these clubs. All (?) community transmission since reopening has been from strip clubs. The latest reported today is from Hotel Belmont bar & nightclub.

[Manic!]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7147062/coronavirus-church-party-florida-teen-covid-19/

A Florida teenager who died of complications from COVID-19 attended a large church party without a mask just a few weeks earlier, then took unproven drugs touted by U.S. President Donald Trump before her parents brought her to a hospital, according to a newly-released medical examiner’s report.

Carsyn Leigh Davis, 17, died on June 23 after a lifetime of battling various medical challenges, including cancer and a rare autoimmune disorder that contributed to her death, according to the Miami-Dade County medical examiner’s report. The girl was the youngest person to die of the coronavirus in her county at the time, and her death triggered an outpouring of sympathy and prayers for her family.

[RRxtar]

That's honestly what I think Brandon Schaub is doing (he's a Joe Rogan toadie/failed MMA fighter who is now a podcaster) He has been one of the more outspoken Coronavirus deniers. Now he says he has it, and is going on bike rides out in public and tweeting about how he felt fine after 2 days. I think he'll be even more obnoxious once he's "recovered"

I don't listen to him but a lot of people do
Like Chris Cuomo, except his story was how he nearly died in isolation. Except he was out in public and fine

[whitev70r]

PSA

If I’m going to the strip club it’s gonna be no.5

+1. They take health and safety seriously unlike Brandis: https://vancouversun.com/business/local-business/dancers-protected-by-plexiglas-at-popular-vancouver-strip-club

COVID-19: Staff member at Vancouver strip bar No. 5 Orange tests positive (https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-19-staff-member-at-vancouver-strip-bar-no-5-orange-tests-positive/wcm/334c22f3-0d06-42e1-a6f8-23d12ddc834b/)

[westopher]

See you guys in a couple weeks. Time to isolate.

[whitev70r]

:)

[pastarocket]

Covid 19 hits a local McD's too. One of the franchises in Surrey.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/07/07/employee-surrey-mcdonalds-positive-coronavirus/

[GLOW]

TBrandon Schaub is doing (he's a Joe Rogan toadie/failed MMA fighter who is now a podcaster)

damn, his mma career wasn't that bad was it? i always thought it was respectable

[SkinnyPupp]

damn, his mma career wasn't that bad was it? i always thought it was respectable
I guess he'd be the only one who can truly judge... But really I was just being hyperbolic to be silly. He made a great career of defeating Cro Cop, but went 2-4, getting demolished 3 times after that, and people had to tell him he had to stop before being permanently damaged, soo... Like I said, it's up to him to decide whether he failed, or if instead he went out on his own terms! Maybe we would have been surprised if he'd continued, eventually challenging prime Cain Velasquez.

[Hondaracer]

Dunno how the DTES hasn’t exploded in cases or it’s just a indicator on asymptomatic transmission

Drove down there today for the first time in months and it’s worse than I’ve ever seen it.

[SkinnyPupp]

New local outbreaks are happening in Hong Kong, for the first time in 3 weeks. One tied to a restaurant in kwun tong (actually I ate there last year some time) that has at least 9 people tied to it.

Also found out that a piano teacher has it, so depending on how many homes she visited, it could have spread quite a bit. My wife's co-worker lives in the building of one of her clients. :heckno:

Keep wearing masks! It's not even close to thinking about not wearing a mask until... possibly never!

[Manic!]

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/local/american-visitor-to-nova-scotia-tests-positive-for-covid-19-469708/

Traveller from U.S. tests positive for COVID-19

A man travelling from the United States who entered Nova Scotia last month tested positive for COVID-19 on Sunday, the provincial Health Department said.

The man, who entered Canada on June 26, has been linked to three cases of COVID-19 on Prince Edward Island. (Initially the man was described as from the United States. It was later revealed he was a foreign national not from the U.S. who was studying in P.E.I.)

The government there has said a P.E.I. resident who visited Nova Scotia had been in close contact with someone who had recently travelled from the United States.

[whitev70r]

US is radioactive right now!

[Ch28]

Keep wearing masks! It's not even close to thinking about not wearing a mask until... possibly never!

It still blows my mind that there are people adamantly fighting against wearing masks.

Bunch of selfish fucks

[mikemhg]

Dunno how the DTES hasn’t exploded in cases or it’s just a indicator on asymptomatic transmission

Drove down there today for the first time in months and it’s worse than I’ve ever seen it.

Holy fuck this. My office is downtown but with WFH, I haven't been downtown in the DTES for a while now.

We were driving to Elisa for dinner last night and passed through, I can't believe how bad it's gotten, never seen it like this.

Garbage everywhere, bikes, the street was littered with people.

Feels bad man, I feel for those people, it's insane how bad it's gotten in this city. I'm assuming it because of the David Opp closure?

[Manic!]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/travel/american-travelers-restrictions-coronavirus.html

I’m a U.S. Citizen. Where in the World Can I Go?

For Americans eager to resume international travel, here are the countries that currently allow U.S. citizens to enter, though there may be restrictions.


Really NYtimes? Americans need to stay the fck home.

[Hondaracer]

Holy fuck this. My office is downtown but with WFH, I haven't been downtown in the DTES for a while now.

We were driving to Elisa for dinner last night and passed through, I can't believe how bad it's gotten, never seen it like this.

Garbage everywhere, bikes, the street was littered with people.

Feels bad man, I feel for those people, it's insane how bad it's gotten in this city. I'm assuming it because of the David Opp closure?

Wife works at Pender and Richards and in their building they have had squatters come in and occupy floors without tenants. They go into the office 2 days a week now and there is constantly police having to clear our people camped out in the front of businesses etc trying to open and they won’t move

When you thought Moonbeam was bad, shit mayor Stewart comes strolling along..:rukidding:

[320icar]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/travel/american-travelers-restrictions-coronavirus.html




Really NYtimes? Americans need to stay the fck home.

A country full of selfish cunts. I used to love going to America, everyone was so friendly and warm. This whole thing has permanently skewed my view

[BlackV62K2]

Crackheads are further spread throughout DT after they shutdown Oppenheimer. At least before they were more isolated in one area. You thought Granville was bad before, it way worse now with Howard Johnson being a hotel for these people. West-end is pretty bad too. They run around lawless in the city.

Free housing, free drugs, steal shit and setup camp wherever. Vancouver be like yeah sure, and here's more money for you guys.

Yet you have the city wasting time in policing dumb shit like having a beer at the park with your dinner. Shame on the working class paying taxes....

[Obsideon]

I thought it was just me noticing but it clearly is getting worse and worse.
Just yesterday morning we had to yell and kick 2 crackheads camping out in our patio. They had 2 dogs that left poo on the floor and dug up some planters along with their garbage, bottles and burnt plastic. What a fucking pain in the ass to clean up. I thought about calling police but they would probably take 3 hours to get here and we needed to open our doors for business within the hour.

[CivicBlues]

Meanwhile in Mississauga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALRZ_01ar40

[Fafine]

dude looks like he has an extra chromosome

[Mr.Money]

good to see people help each other when crazies try pulling shit like that,all on stand by for the stomp down if he want's to throw hands

Other countries you would probably see a man standing by himself while everyone walks by,Only with they're cellphones out....*Worldd Starrrrrr*

[SumAznGuy]

It still blows my mind that there are people adamantly fighting against wearing masks.

Bunch of selfish fucks

I watched a clip on youtube where a teacher asked the city council people if they were smarter than a 5th grader because the kids understood how breathing worked.
Oh yeah, and that teacher was against mask wearing. FailFish

the amount of mis-information and whatnot is baffling.

[StylinRed]

How did he even get in t&t without a mask? what a nut

[westopher]

Meanwhile in Mississauga:

Fuck I feel VERY bad for the people working in coffee shops, grocery stores. Costcos, etc that have to deal with these fucking cunts. That old dude was boss, just saying over and over "but I'm Canadian, I'm Canadian." Just made a racist idiot look even dumber than he could on his own.

[Infiniti]

I think that guy went to the wrong supermarket

[SkinnyPupp]

There are are a lot of millionaires abusing America's PPP system... The same people who constantly complain about poor people "abusing welfare"

Well here they all are, abusing welfare. Taking money from people who need it most, in the most obvious, disgusting way possible. Blatantly, right in front of everyone.

Small businesses be damned. Self employed be damned. Unemployed, be damned. Homeless, be damned. The millionaires want their "free money"

[H.Specter]

Meanwhile in Mississauga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALRZ_01ar40

States he has asthma aka compromised system yet doesn't wear a mask and doesn't believe in coronavirus. Logic much?

[TOS'd]

How did he even get in t&t without a mask? what a nut

I regularly shop at Asian supermarkets here in Toronto. Masks are now mandatory indoors and there were signs posted at the place I was at last night. As I was checking out in the line, I noticed a couple were shopping without masks while everyone else had one on. No one seemed to have denied them entry or talked to them about it. The signs were in English as well.

[ilovebacon]

How did he even get in t&t without a mask? what a nut

I dont think they have securities anymore after phrase 3

[ImportPsycho]

wear the mask, you get sick, it's science, breathe in old air?
thousands of doctors and nurses who wear mask everyday.. how can someone be this retarded....

[AzNightmare]

A country full of selfish cunts. I used to love going to America, everyone was so friendly and warm. This whole thing has permanently skewed my view

They never really took it seriously down there.
No wonder they are #1. Gotta be #1 at everything, even on covid infections...

[JDMDreams]

Not to be racist or anything but I do predominantly see none Asians out and about with no mask on. Often times they are old too and strut around as if nothing is happening and don't social distance and huddle together

:fulloffuck::facepalm:

[CivicBlues]

There are are a lot of millionaires abusing America's PPP system... The same people who constantly complain about poor people "abusing welfare"

Well here they all are, abusing welfare. Taking money from people who need it most, in the most obvious, disgusting way possible. Blatantly, right in front of everyone.

Small businesses be damned. Self employed be damned. Unemployed, be damned. Homeless, be damned. The millionaires want their "free money"

wrong thread?

[StylinRed]

ahh ive only really been to the t&t in coquitlam centre recently (since these phases occurred anyway) and they still have someone monitoring the entrance, just assumed they were all still like that

[Ch28]

I dont think they have securities anymore after phrase 3

The T&T at Renfrew and 1st Ave has a sign posted outside the entrance stating that you require a mask to enter or you need to purchase one.

[Infiniti]

Mask are now mandatory anywhere indoors in Toronto and Ottawa.

[CivicBlues]

Honestly though if some no-neck-red-neck fuck like that guy barged in without a mask you think the 20-year-old immigrant security guard is going to put up much of a fight? Cops need to be called as soon as these fuckers get belligerent.

[320icar]

Memes at the expense of America. I’ll spoiler it for peeps who don’t cars



https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514170624/h38D75152/united-states-20000-15000-10000-5000-european-union-40k-march-april-may-june-turned-into-half-pipe

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514174464/h2F0DD0F2/c19-tests-us-12news-decreased-critical-decreased-childh-domestic-violenc-dr-cara-christ-101

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514174976/h778CAFE7/stethoscope-close-schools-at-thousand-cases-but-reopen-at-17-million-sefety

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514175744/h56375F6D/person-there-cant-be-second-wave-coronavirus-cases-if-first-one-never-ends-imgflipcom

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514176512/hCB381B46/person-bad-good-want-re-open-now

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514178560/h7316023D/obama-trump-2-2977-1836-hurricane-katrina-benghazi-2982-16693-ebola-covid-19-911-hurricane-maria

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9514176256/h8873B797/st-public-health-recommendations-white-ho-ashingion-like-solve-white-hc-washington-save-dow-jones-f

[mikemhg]

There are are a lot of millionaires abusing America's PPP system... The same people who constantly complain about poor people "abusing welfare"

Well here they all are, abusing welfare. Taking money from people who need it most, in the most obvious, disgusting way possible. Blatantly, right in front of everyone.

Small businesses be damned. Self employed be damned. Unemployed, be damned. Homeless, be damned. The millionaires want their "free money"

The same people who tell you to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" :lol

[mikemhg]

wrong thread?

He's got the right thread, he's referring to the stimulus bill with the attached Paycheck Protection Program.

The program that we're seeing scandals popping up in regards to which Trump/Republican cronies that received large sums of cash as part of the program, along with zero oversight in terms of the Fed stimulus program.

Modern day fleecing of the tax payers, very much akin to, if not worse than 2008.

[GLOW]

maybe guy at T&T was just trying to stur shit up, figure asians won't cause much of a fuss when he starts acting tough, and got upset he ran in to a bus uncle type and went all in.

[pastarocket]

The Daily Shit posted an article about the Northgate location of Good Life gym. One member tested positive recently.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coronavirus-goodlife-fitness-burnaby-northgate


In a statement to Daily Hive, Tracy Matthews, vice president of operations, said that the individual spent time at their Burnaby Northgate Club. They occupied the gym over a 12-day period between June 22 and July 3, typically between 7:30 and 10:30 am.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[SkinnyPupp]

He's got the right thread, he's referring to the stimulus bill with the attached Paycheck Protection Program.

The program that we're seeing scandals popping up in regards to which Trump/Republican cronies that received large sums of cash as part of the program, along with zero oversight in terms of the Fed stimulus program.

Modern day fleecing of the tax payers, very much akin to, if not worse than 2008.
It is so blatant it's actually disgusting. Because the same people are almost always against most forms of social welfare. But here they are, taking in as much welfare as possible.

The celebrities of course stand out, but there are so many huge corporation with hundreds of millions in the bank, taking from the public instead of using the money they already have.

And people bitch about some poor family staying on CERB too long or shit like that. Fuck off.

[SkunkWorks]

It is so blatant it's actually disgusting. Because the same people are almost always against most forms of social welfare. But here they are, taking in as much welfare as possible.

The celebrities of course stand out, but there are so many huge corporation with hundreds of millions in the bank, taking from the public instead of using the money they already have.

And people bitch about some poor family staying on CERB too long or shit like that. Fuck off.

bUt wE nEeD tO StImUlAtE tHe eCoNoMy

Wankers.

[underscore]

It's basic trickle down economics. You give rich people money for no reason, and then nothing happens.

[Teriyaki]

Give money to the rich, they'll just use it to make more money, evade taxes, black hole.
Give money to the poor. They'll spend it.

[SpeedStars]

Give money to the rich, they'll just use it to make more money, evade taxes, black hole.
Give money to the poor. They'll spend it.

To add to this, a lot of people that I know that received CERB with poor finances and got laid off still ended up splurging on the most random ass luxury goods that they probably wouldn't normally buy. But would do so now due to a windfall of $2000 a month :derp:

Companies will also get rich off of the poor getting rich

[Teriyaki]

It's weird eh, it seems almost too obvious yet we've been doing it backwards for how long now?

[Manic!]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/canada-us-border-reopening-reactions_ca_5f077dbbc5b63a72c33f2fd1

A bipartisan group of United States politicians is pushing for the U.S.-Canada border to reopen.

But Canadians are having none of it, and they aren’t sorry they feel this way.

In a letter this week shared by New York congressman Brian Higgins, 27 members of Congress called on the U.S. and Canadian governments to begin a phased full reopening of the border when the current agreement expires on July 21. Restrictions on the border were first introduced in March, and have been renewed them three times over the course of the coronavirus pandemic.

How do we let americans know we don't want them here?

[Hehe]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/canada-us-border-reopening-reactions_ca_5f077dbbc5b63a72c33f2fd1



How do we let americans know we don't want them here?

They asking for "Phase re-open". I think it's a great opportunity for Niagara Falls, ON.

Ask everyone who wants to cross into Canada from US to quarantine in one of the many hotels by the border at their OWN expense. After 14days, take a test, again, at their cost, if it's negative, they can enter Canada.

This would prevent people who has no true need to come into Canada, while helping the hotel industry in the area.

I think as far as reopening the border goes, I have a similar opinion to re-opening the economy. You have to do it, because there are people who are severely affected by it. You just make it strict enough so that we can manage it. For example, family who are separated by the lockdown can now reunite, but at a heavy cost. And only people who have true needs would go through the process.

Because this "keeping it closed" is BS.... anyone can still fly in and out without much limitation, but flying, the same as the method I just described, make it hard enough for many and we filter all the "non-essential" out.

[320icar]

I don’t trust a single one of them to follow the rules we put in place

[Mr.Money]

Chinese officials warn of 'unknown pneumonia' in Kazakhstan that is deadlier than coronavirus


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/asia/kazakhstan-pneumonia-intl-hnk-scli-scn/index.html

[Hehe]

I don’t trust a single one of them to follow the rules we put in place

You don't trust them, just force them. Everything prepaid and the hotel is quasi-jail, with breaching it a criminal offense (or return to the US). Food and everything are prepared with some items that can be purchased that'd be delivered to your room's door.

Again... it's a nicer way (diplomatically) to say no. No one in their right mind would take up on the offer unless they really have to. But it's a first step.

Think about it... let's say Ontario's case get worse... do we, as Canadians, block/forbid Ontarians from coming to BC or any other Canadian prov/territories?

We take step measures. And ease on the situation as we go along.

[320icar]

You don't trust them, just force them. Everything prepaid and the hotel is quasi-jail, with breaching it a criminal offense (or return to the US). Food and everything are prepared with some items that can be purchased that'd be delivered to your room's door.

Again... it's a nicer way (diplomatically) to say no. No one in their right mind would take up on the offer unless they really have to. But it's a first step.

Think about it... let's say Ontario's case get worse... do we, as Canadians, block/forbid Ontarians from coming to BC or any other Canadian prov/territories?

We take step measures. And ease on the situation as we go along.

Yes. That is exactly what you should do

[SkunkWorks]

Think about it... let's say Ontario's case get worse... do we, as Canadians, block/forbid Ontarians from coming to BC or any other Canadian prov/territories?

We take step measures. And ease on the situation as we go along.

Uh, that's precisely what we've been doing. Atlantic Canada only just recently opened its borders to the other Maritime provinces.

With over 3 million cases down south and increasing exponentially by the day, seems asinine to even suggest opening borders for what, hotels and McD's in border towns? That's like gambling your house to win ten bucks.

[Teriyaki]

What I'm afraid of is the kid that lives downstairs starts banging on the door and no longer agreeing to just huff and puff while the grownups talk sensibly.

[Hehe]

I know what's going on... the reason of saying that is at what stage is considered "safe" to reopen?

That the virus is completely eradicated? Until there's a vaccine? PEI or NB (can't remember exactly as I just heard briefly on the radio, but it's one of the Atlantic provs) recently had another few cases after going case-free for months because one of their own return home.

You can't simply lock everything down... same thing as locking down with the economy. You survive the virus alright, but there's a destroyed economy that risk the livelihood of everyone.

Not to mention that it's simply no one in their right mind willing to challenge, but such restriction has no chance of surviving a charter challenge because mobility freedom is one of the basic rights strictly protected by our charters.

The right approach is to take step by step approaches. Making it extremely difficult at first, cautious and contained in the area and open it up little by little if some pre-defined guidelines and benchmarks are met (border town-->border cities of that town-->province).

Too often, it's easy to find the way out with the least challenge... without thinking the long lasting consequences.

[SkunkWorks]

I know what's going on... the reason of saying that is at what stage is considered "safe" to reopen?

That the virus is completely eradicated? Until there's a vaccine? PEI or NB (can't remember exactly as I just heard briefly on the radio, but it's one of the Atlantic provs) recently had another few cases after going case-free for months because one of their own return home.

You can't simply lock everything down... same thing as locking down with the economy. You survive the virus alright, but there's a destroyed economy that risk the livelihood of everyone.

Not to mention that it's simply no one in their right mind willing to challenge, but such restriction has no chance of surviving a charter challenge because mobility freedom is one of the basic rights strictly protected by our charters.

The right approach is to take step by step approaches. Making it extremely difficult at first, cautious and contained in the area and open it up little by little if some pre-defined guidelines and benchmarks are met (border town-->border cities of that town-->province)

FailFish

The "one of their own" is a guy that arrived from the USA on a student visa, didn't self-isolate, and then cluster infected people in NS and PEI. Yeah, sure, let's open those borders right back up.

You realize that our country as a whole has been able to slowly open back up in large due to our restricted borders, right?

Easy to spout off hypotheticals but take a look around you, people can't even wear masks on their own accord.

[Hehe]

^

We are talking about different cases then. I clearly remember hearing that it was a lady who worked there, went to Ontario or something and then came home.

Whatever the case, it's irrelevant.

The fact is, no matter what you do... unless you literally block entrance of EVERYONE, with no exceptions, the risk of someone with the virus coming in is no greater or less assuming restriction is in place.

We have to figure a way how to gradually work our way back. And not just wait until everything is done. Because sure... the benefit is that you minimize the chances, but then what? You fail to account all the unintended consequences... like people no longer want to come to BC because there's no longer reason for the person to do so.

Having a plan only makes things better. That's what I'm advocating. Having no plan and just wait... NEVER in my life has anything ever turned out good by picking that approach.

We as human like/prefer having a firm expectation... however long that expectation is.

[Hondaracer]

The people that HAVE to come and go from the states still can. Have a few family friends who had to fly to Cali and whatnot to conduct business they own down there and then the come back and isolate for 14 days

Don’t think it’s necessary to have clowns come up to eat at restaurants and shop for deals.

[westopher]

The fact is, no matter what you do... unless you literally block entrance of EVERYONE, with no exceptions, the risk of someone with the virus coming in is no greater or less assuming restriction is in place.


Actually, math and probability determines that is not true.

[320icar]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9515953664/hABCC0414/r-20h-germany-denmark-norway-sweden-and-many-other-countries-schools-are-open-with-no-problems-dems

[underscore]

I know what's going on... the reason of saying that is at what stage is considered "safe" to reopen?

That the virus is completely eradicated? Until there's a vaccine?

At a minimum wait until Americas infection rate stops screaming upwards towards oblivion.

[CivicBlues]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9515953664/hABCC0414/r-20h-germany-denmark-norway-sweden-and-many-other-countries-schools-are-open-with-no-problems-dems

So I guess Sweden is a basket-case no more with their do-nothing approach?

https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden/0/467f3ad17070e6144e25d879d10c9365900cb75d.png

[westopher]

The thing is, it's not that Sweden did absolutely nothing, they just had no real government imposed restrictions on businesses other than on bars and restaurants. Restaurant patrons were not allowed to interact between tables and social distancing was still expected. They also probably know how to wash their hands. It was a shitty approach, but they are at least a fairly well educated and self sufficient population that has an understanding of reality.
US is full of people sharing popsicles and licking toilet seats to "prove" that coronavirus is a hoax.

[westopher]

https://medium.com/@indica/the-plague-states-of-america-53b20678a80e
America is not united anymore and it’s barely a state. They have crashed right through failed state into a plague state, unwelcome across the world. This has been predicted, including here. Now it has come to pass. Just look at the map.
Americans have gone from having access to most of the world to being banned from most of it. Today, Americans are only allowed in a few Caribbean islands and the Balkans. An American passport is now worthless. Worse than worthless, it’s a plague.
In the absence of a humane government, America is now ruled by COVID-19. Welcome to the Plague States of America.
It’s too late

Only America has self-inflicted a second wave
I think it is difficult for Americans to understand that they are, to use an epidemiological term, completely fucked. COVID-19 could have been managed in January, or February, or even now, but not a full year later, in January 2021. Given that you need a functioning government to manage this pandemic, that’s the soonest Americans can get one.
It’s far too late.
The most reliable projections are saying 200,000 dead and 50 million infected by election day in November. Even these projections struggle to account for completely irrational federal actions like denigrating masks, pushing to reopen early, and pushing students back into schools. This is not the absence of public health, this is its opposite.
It is, in effect, governance by COVID-19. Not a failed state. A plague state.
Even after election day, Donald Trump will still be in power for nearly 3 months, until January 20th. Besides impeaching a dead-duck President, there’s nothing America can do but wait, while COVID-19 grows ever stronger. Grows completely out of control. In a pandemic, days matter, hours matter. A year is entirely too late.
America will be lucky to exit this pandemic with less than a million dead and 100 million infected. The living will be lucky to exit their country within the next five years.
The worthless passport

Welcome to the club. Post-colonial bullshit and racism have made my Sri Lankan passport worthless for years. Now the American passport is worse. America has crashed straight through the third world into the fourth.
Here is a list, in total, of all the places Americans can go. Most of them are small Caribbean islands.

ALL THE PLACES YOU CAN GO
1. Albania | 15. Lebanon
2. Antigua and Barbuda | 16. Maldives
3. Aruba | 17. Mexico
4. The Bahamas | 18. North Macedonia
5. Barbados | 19. St. Lucia
6. Belize | 20. St. Maarten
7. Bermuda | 21. St. Vincent &
8. Croatia | 22. Serbia
9. Dominican Republic | 23. Tanzania
10. Ecuador* | 24. Turkey
11. French Polynesia | 25. Turks &
12. Ireland* | 26. Ukraine
13. Jamaica | 27. UAE*
14. Kosovo | 28. UK*
*14 day quarantine required, not included in map.
American now have access to exactly two dozen states, four more (*) if they want to endure a 14-day quarantine on the end. Americans have gone from world power to getting the side-eye from Ecuador in a matter of months. Right now Americans are only really welcome on remote islands or at corralled resorts in Mexico, where they can be isolated from everyone else.
It’s not that other nations don’t want to welcome Americans, they just can’t. The point of a passport is that a sovereign power vouches for its bearer, but America can’t vouch for the health of their citizens at all. America’s public health regime is far less trustworthy than Liberia’s (which is actually quite good). Its sovereign is mad.
At the same time, you can’t trust Americans. Americans have poor hygiene (low masking rate) and at least 40% of the population can’t be trusted to even believe that COVID-19 exists, let alone to take it seriously. They’re likely to refuse testing, not report symptoms, break quarantine, and generally follow rules. Americans have a toxic combination of ignorance and arrogance that makes them unwelcome travelers.
They have a lot of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with them. Some of them, I assume, are good people, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a plague passport. Return to sender.
The Plague States

That’s the near future of the United States. An epidemic that spreads largely unchecked until next year. A population to unprotected and ignorant to be allowed anywhere else. A world that largely suppresses the virus — from Mongolia to Ghana to Trinidad & Tobago — but which has to keep America in isolation.
In the end, Trump did what he said. He built a wall around America and made the world pay for it. He just never told Americans that they’d be stuck inside. Welcome to the Plague States of America. You can check out, but you can never leave.

[Hondaracer]

I know this may be a dumbed down point of view but it’s pretty amazing that arguably the greatest nation the world has ever known will crumble because people are too dumb to wear fucking masks

[westopher]

It all points to americas biggest problematic personality trait. Arrogance. They can't be told they are wrong, and are willing to die to "prove" they are right. People like that still end up wrong, but they won't live long enough to see the day.

[StylinRed]

25 in the past 24hrs #s have been going up this week

[GS8]

I know this may be a dumbed down point of view but it’s pretty amazing that arguably the greatest nation the world has ever known will crumble because people are too dumb to wear fucking masks

I'd argue that a sizable portion of Americans have been systemically stupid for generations but that's how it works: Dumb down the population. Put them in a sealed room, paint the walls to look like a lightly clouded sky and they'll believe they're outside, enjoying freedom.

They're distracted in that room while the elites live outside enjoying themselves.

/metaphor

Side note: I'm okay with this cooler summer. Keep the forest fires down and keep stupid people on this side of the border out of our forests & parks.

[ImportPsycho]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9515953664/hABCC0414/r-20h-germany-denmark-norway-sweden-and-many-other-countries-schools-are-open-with-no-problems-dems


Why are Americans so hell bent on opening schools?

[westopher]

It’s a symbol of how they are beating coronavirus.

[SkinnyPupp]

25 in the past 24hrs #s have been going up this week
32 new local cases here today. It's pretty much completely back

One of the outbreaks has several people who frequented an area that I normally go to for groceries and food (I live in a rural village, but this is the closest urban market area for me). I actually went there last Saturday, which is when most of the patients are reporting they were there last :heckno:

Also my wife helped someone who passed out on the MTR last night. We're hoping this was due to the usual causes (this happens all the time) and it wasn't a covid patient. We disinfected her clothes as much as possible when she got home.

Going to be staying home as much as I did back when it first started, and I urge others to consider doing the same. I stay home most of the time anyway, but have been eating out more than I used to. Not anymore.

The most obvious ones: Don't go for hot pot, don't do karaoke, and don't go to the gym. These are always the biggest outbreaks.

[StylinRed]

Ah I knew cases were up in HK too but didn't think it was that much

Yeah I was taking my mom out for walks, and the odd grocery run, but cutting that down now too

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup it's getting bad again

https://i.imgur.com/LAu7KIz.png

Borders are still very strict, so this is a mystery. There are conspiracy theories out there though...

https://i.imgur.com/uTJj4Ij.png

Canada is still flat, but still at 300 per day. I don't know where to look for updated charts provincially

[Jmac]

Yup it's getting bad again

https://i.imgur.com/LAu7KIz.png

Borders are still very strict, so this is a mystery. There are conspiracy theories out there though...

https://i.imgur.com/uTJj4Ij.png

Canada is still flat, but still at 300 per day. I don't know where to look for updated charts provincially
Most provinces have a dashboard.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded

[320icar]

Y’all know how this works by now



https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9516046848/hCD3B5D78/disease-hudson-ay-canada-vancouver-toronto-new-york-united-states-san-francisco-los-angeles-mexico

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9516046336/h6D0DCB74/replying-realdonaldtrump-my-god-dont-even-know-fractions-work-no-wonder-someone-else-took-sats

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9516054528/h16E55016/will-never-know-anyway-s-kept-up-nick-loved-being-dad-view-all-150-comments-2-if-nick-doesnt-have

https://i.redd.it/0jole8fkshj41.jpg

https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/coronavirus-memes-government-stay-inside-half-of-the-us-population-catch-me-outside-how-about-that.jpg

https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/meme-creator/memes/5e3293ec9bac0.jpg

https://66.media.tumblr.com/702e086dfecad09177f916855d6bd34d/c7fc54f8d3b1d86f-bf/s1280x1920/b24fd121055f1ec8119b09adbccec55ac8e75898.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jHpz9Yv.jpg


https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/l-coyzrIAKHbP6FQMljXNOiF7Fg=/940x0/2020/03/24/6e0e3164-ff6b-40e1-adfa-69c57f1e7013/screen-shot-2020-03-24-at-12-47-07-pm.png

[Akinari]

Y’all know how this works by now


https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9516046336/h6D0DCB74/replying-realdonaldtrump-my-god-dont-even-know-fractions-work-no-wonder-someone-else-took-sats

Good god I seriously can't.

Americans...well...speak for yourselves please lol.

[Ch28]

It all points to americas biggest problematic personality trait. Arrogance. They can't be told they are wrong, and are willing to die to "prove" they are right.

You've essentially summed up the entire Republican party.

[Nlkko]

It all points to americas biggest problematic personality trait. Arrogance. They can't be told they are wrong, and are willing to die to "prove" they are right. People like that still end up wrong, but they won't live long enough to see the day.

Exhibit B

https://www.insider.com/ohio-man-veteran-died-coronavirus-mask-facebook-posts-2020-7

[spoon.ek9]

Exhibit B

https://www.insider.com/ohio-man-veteran-died-coronavirus-mask-facebook-posts-2020-7

"We should still be compassionate whether we agree with someone's beliefs or not. Someone has passed away and we should have some compassion towards that."

That part of the quote pissed me off. This isn't about BELIEFS. It's action vs inaction and actions vs the WRONG actions. The virus doesn't give a shit about your beliefs or your freedoms. Freedom doesn't absolve you from responsibility. This is what Americans fail to comprehend.

In this case, his actions had some dire consequences. I sincerely hope no one else was affected by him. Man, what a freaking dumpster fire of a country.

[Nlkko]

Texas patient in 30s dies after reportedly citing ‘mistake’ of attending ‘COVID party'

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/07/11/texas-patient-in-30s-dies-after-reportedly-citing-mistake-of-attending-so-called-covid-party/

"“COVID parties” are get-togethers involving a person who has been diagnosed with the coronavirus, with attendees supposedly gathering as a dare."

"“Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said, ‘I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not,’” Dr. Jane Appleby said in a video posted by the news station."

Some fuckery out there.

[SkinnyPupp]

Two headlines today:

https://twitter.com/SunSentinel/status/1282339410688827392

https://twitter.com/business/status/1282456743386189826

Perfect time to re-open Disney World SeemsGood

[punkwax]

I know this may be a dumbed down point of view but it’s pretty amazing that arguably the greatest nation the world has ever known will crumble because people are too dumb to wear fucking masks

It all points to americas biggest problematic personality trait. Arrogance. They can't be told they are wrong, and are willing to die to "prove" they are right. People like that still end up wrong, but they won't live long enough to see the day.

Just like in any company/organization/culture the problem starts at the top.

I have to believe the numbers would be vastly better in the US if Obama was still President. Too many mouth breathers read posts like Trump’s above and accept it as absolute truth without doing any personal due diligence. Truly is the blind leading the blind for the most part down south rn.

Anyone else proud to be Canadian these days? I know I am.

[SkinnyPupp]

Just like in any company/organization/culture the problem starts at the top.

I have to believe the numbers would be vastly better in the US if Obama was still President.

Anyone else proud to be Canadian these days? I know I am.
I am proud that Canadians elected competent leadership. Things would likely be quite different if things went the other way. Canada would probably be one giant Florida LUL

[punkwax]

^ Damn man that’s harsh. You’ve been gone too long if you truly believe that. Florida?? Ouch! lol

Jokes aside, regardless of leadership I believe the citizens of Canada are wise enough overall to handle this situation responsibly.

[Hondaracer]

If Harper we’re still in power we’d be in the same place or better and without the conflict of interest investigations

[twitchyzero]

if the 3 day count is over 60 tomorrow i might put gym/restaurants on pause again

sadly dont think we're ready for phase 3 yet

[StylinRed]

Went to Hmart in poco today, there was a car club having a meet in the lot, huge groups of ppl, not one mask... prolly still going on rn

[SkinnyPupp]

^ Damn man that’s harsh. You’ve been gone too long if you truly believe that. Florida?? Ouch! lol

Jokes aside, regardless of leadership I believe the citizens of Canada are wise enough overall to handle this situation responsibly.
lol I was exaggerating obviously, but honestly I see a lot more hardcore right wing "GOP wannabe" attitudes with Canadians that rarely existed before. At least not as much that I noticed.

A lot of my friends from school who I stay (barely) connected with have found jobs in Alberta in the oil industry. So that explains a lot of it. A lot aren't directly related to that though, yet still dedicate their lives to posting Trudeau and gun memes and anti-BLM stuff on facebook every day WutFace

[SkunkWorks]

A lot aren't directly related to that though, yet still dedicate their lives to posting Trudeau and gun memes and anti-BLM stuff on facebook every day WutFace

Oh, didn't know you went to school with hondaracer and hehe.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong locking down again (https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1537519-20200713.htm), gyms, bars, cinemas closed again. Tattoo shops also closed (fortunate I was able to get one 2 weeks ago SeemsGood ) Restaurants are takeout only after 6pm

I strongly urge people here to stop going to the gym in Vancouver, there could be another outbreak stirring there as well. I know it's for health, and the same people going to gyms likely wouldn't be going to bars and cinemas, but it's still extremely risky, and not worth it.

[6thGear.]

I keep booking my slot time at Goodlife but keep cancelling due to time conflict but since one of their Burnaby location got a positive Covid case, I'm absolutely not even going to attempt going now especially with a newborn on the way. I still check the app and I still see full bookings for their time slots:rukidding:

[Ducdesmo]

Just anecdotal reference over the past weekend

Visited Home Depot in Richmond - 80-90% mask rate
Visited Home Depot South Surrey - 20% mask rate

[westopher]

To add to that, I was at wal mart in Chilliwack (friend bought a car Sunday and was only insurance place open lol)
Mask rate - probably between 2-5%
I have to say, we are lucky it never really hit here yet. If and when it does, people’s habits aren’t conducive to stopping public transmissions.

[Hondaracer]

I’ve been wanting to return to the gym but fuck don’t even feel like going under the current arrangement and time slots etc.

Gotta get a better home routine going I suppose

[JDMDreams]

Commercial Ave in Vancouver has 0% mask rate when I was driving and waiting for a light there over the weekend. And I just read this news article that there's heart damage found in Corona patients.....

https://www.newsweek.com/scans-reveal-heart-damage-over-half-covid-19-patients-study-1517293?amp=1

[westopher]

Last I was at commercial on a weekday I’d say over half were wearing masks. I feel like the weekend activities of hanging out and having drinks is bringing out the carelessness in people. To be fair though, I only wear my mask when I’m going inside places. Walking down the street I don’t, but it’s pretty easy to distance in north van.

[twitchyzero]

I’ve been wanting to return to the gym but fuck don’t even feel like going under the current arrangement and time slots etc.

Gotta get a better home routine going I suppose

the nice thing about time limit is that people are not hogging a machine and spend 85% of it on the phone

[Hondaracer]

the nice thing about time limit is that people are not hogging a machine and spend 85% of it on the phone

At my gym though you’re limited to specific areas you reserve, ie. treadmills and rowing machine, dumbbells, racks, etc.

Not sure if you can grab some dumbbells and cross into other areas, that would be ok but yea, the time limit at least keeps people off their phones hopefully

[MarkyMark]

My gyms been pretty awesome since Covid, it's completely empty for the first 15 mins of my workout so I never wait for any equipment anymore, you have to workout alone so you don't get the bros taking over the bench press section for an hour either. Everyone gets their own spray bottle to clean the equipment after and from what I've seen most people are doing well with it and giving people space.

[quasi]

There isn't a lot of people in the gym when I go, probably 8?

I go a few times a week, probably continue going.

[winson604]

I switched to a new gym about 3 weeks ago. Was going to go to Good Life but the non 24hrs and timeslot thing turned me off. Ended up at Anytime Fitness Metrotown. I mostly go early at 6am or late at 1am but have gone 3 times during day time hours around 10-11 and it was not busy. I hear other locations can get busier for example the Kensington location I've heard has more power lifting types. Metrotown I've heard isn't that busy likely because Good Life is across the street so a lot of people go there instead.

[spoon.ek9]

Just anecdotal reference over the past weekend

Visited Home Depot in Richmond - 80-90% mask rate
Visited Home Depot South Surrey - 20% mask rate

it's been great to see people of all colours wearing masks here in Richmond.

[pastarocket]

More cases are identified in Kelowna.


https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/latest-news/four-sites-covid-19-exposures-kelowna-bc-2559731

https://604now.com/kelowna-covid19-exposure-june-july/

The health authority is urging anyone who attended private gatherings at the following locations to monitor for COVID-19 symptoms:

Discovery Bay resort from July 1-5th
Boyce Gyro Beach Lodge On July 1st
Cactus Club, #1-1370 Water St., from July 3-6th
Pace Spin Studio, #5-1717 Harvey Ave, from July 2, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9th
Interior Health said eight COVID-19 carriers attended gatherings, bars, restaurants and other businesses between June 25-July 6th.


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[Presto]

if the 3 day count is over 60 tomorrow i might put gym/restaurants on pause again

sadly dont think we're ready for phase 3 yet

62 cases over the last 3 days (https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/07/13/62-new-covid-19-cases-over-weekend-in-b-c-two-more-deaths/) :okay:

[Hondaracer]

Kelowna = BC’s Florida

[StylinRed]

62 cases over the last 3 days (https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/07/13/62-new-covid-19-cases-over-weekend-in-b-c-two-more-deaths/) :okay:

Lower than I expected (was thinking 70+) not a good sign

And with filming productions taking place again, and bars filled, less mask usage, we're going to see high numbers again soon

[underscore]

Kelowna = BC’s Florida

I want to be offended by that but it's not wrong.

I am curious where the 6 non-locals came from though.

[Hondaracer]

I want to be offended by that but it's not wrong.

I am curious where the 6 non-locals came from though.

There was some other article about a flight from Kelowna that mentioned a connecting flight from Mexico?

But I would assume it’s just vacationers from out of town or Alberta

[SkinnyPupp]

Cali going into full lockdown again

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1282753656983449600

[RRxtar]

Kelowna = BC’s Florida
6 of the 8 come from Vancouver.

[MelonBoy]

I strongly urge people here to stop going to the gym in Vancouver, there could be another outbreak stirring there as well. I know it's for health, and the same people going to gyms likely wouldn't be going to bars and cinemas, but it's still extremely risky, and not worth it.


Heard there was an outbreak case at the Goodlife north burnaby location. I stopped going mid last week even though I go to the metrotown location.. I know a couple guys who rotate between the 2 locations during the week to squeeze in more session times:heckno:

Sad but home gym it is for the next month or so:alone:

[SkinnyPupp]

BC will almost definitely have to go back to "phase 1" or whatever they are calling it. Full lockdown...

People have a chance to get ahead of it a bit, making things just a bit safer and the lockdown a bit more effective SeemsGood

I think a lot of people here have continued to be vigilant, but if you were starting to relax a bit with the bits of good news that were coming around, I would recommend reevaluating and go from there. Only go out if you really have to, don't eat out at restaurants, etc.

[320icar]

That’s how my wife and I continued to operate. Shame about things probably going south again :(

[TOS'd]

Been seeing social media stories from Vancouver and how relaxed some people have now become.. :fulloffuck:

[Amuse]

it's been great to see people of all colours wearing masks here in Richmond.

I felt quite safe in Richmond since everyone was masked up.

[blkgsr]

There was some other article about a flight from Kelowna that mentioned a connecting flight from Mexico?

But I would assume it’s just vacationers from out of town or Alberta

I was in the okanagan over the July 1-5 weekend and the number of alberta plates was crazy

[quasi]

I felt quite safe in Richmond since everyone was masked up.

That's really good, I bet only 10-15% of people in Langley are wearing masks grocery store or anywhere else.

[Hondaracer]

I was in the okanagan over the July 1-5 weekend and the number of alberta plates was crazy

Yea when I was in Penticton/Osoyoos/Oliver there were also quite a few Washington plates.

Have a hotel booked for the week after August long in Penticton to go wine touring again and then off to a friends cabin. We’ll see how it goes

[punkwax]

I’ll admit I’ve relaxed with the mask a little. My local area stores are relatively quiet and I’m comfortable shopping in them without a mask. I religiously wash/disinfect and maintain a safe distance while doing so.

If I have to hit Walmart/Costco/Superstore etc. I’m masked up for certain. Too many humans in places like those.

[Hondaracer]

Only 13 new cases today, party on

[spoon.ek9]

went to Poco IKEA yesterday, definitely a lot less masks being used. It wasn't super bad just a bit less than I'm used to seeing. Almost all staff wore one at least.

[Hondaracer]

Went to Morey Nissan to get break pads and it was a fucking joke there.

The infinity side was closed so everything is through the Nissan side they have a row of desks with markers in the floor however no one working was wearing masks, this old fucking service guy walking around with a cane was in everyone’s face walking right passed people like face to face butting in front of me to use the ATM machine.

Terrible setup as well with the atm pads just down one side of the room and everyone has to awkwardly walk passed each other to get to them, touch them no cleaning being done on them etc. I was about to snap because no one dealt with me as I was standing there for like 6-7 minutes and people just getting close up walking passed me etc.

[Mikoyan]

That's really good, I bet only 10-15% of people in Langley are wearing masks grocery store or anywhere else.

Can confirm. Walked around Fort Langley. Masking was 5% by my guess.

Wish the mosquitoes would social distance. Got eaten alive.

[JDMDreams]

What freaks me out is restaurant workers or store workers/ cashier's not wearing masks, you literally see a million people a day and any of them can be infected but you don't wear a mask? :fulloffuck:

[punkwax]

What freaks me out is restaurant workers or store workers/ cashier's not wearing masks, you literally see a million people a day and any of them can be infected but you don't wear a mask? :fulloffuck:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RaggedCavernousArawana-size_restricted.gif

[westopher]

What freaks me out is restaurant workers or store workers/ cashier's not wearing masks, you literally see a million people a day and any of them can be infected but you don't wear a mask? :fulloffuck:
Every one of us at work wears a mask all day. Lots of places aren't and I can't understand it. We were all completely fucked 2 months ago, to the point where we legitimately believed almost every (dine in) restaurant in the city would permanently close if it continued through the summer. I don't know why people are playing with their health and their livelihood. I've heard the argument from some people, "why would I want to go out and get served by someone in a mask?"
Well maybe because those are the places that are professional enough to put the health and safety of their customers and staff where it should be. Like, you don't eat your servers face, what the fuck does it negatively affect you that they have a mask on? It's an uncomfortable environment? The places that aren't going above and beyond what's mandated should be the uncomfortable environment.

[spoon.ek9]

there's still a north american bias against masks. it's gotten better of course, but there's still a ways to go on this matter.

I remember years ago when a kid I know went to elementary school with a mask on because she was sick. the teacher told her to take it off as if it were rude or something.

[Nlkko]

All fun and games and hoax until all of the sudden your ass is dead and your family gofundme asking for hands out for funeral like real capitalists.

[iwantaskyline]

So I went to Savio Volpe today -- I've been to a few places already but this was probably the first one where the tables were not 2 meters apart. Is this still a requirement in phase 3?

[westopher]

So I went to Savio Volpe today -- I've been to a few places already but this was probably the first one where the tables were not 2 meters apart. Is this still a requirement in phase 3?
It isn't a requirement if their are partitions or plexiglass or something of the sort in between. On another note, how was the food? They just got a great new chef de cuisine there and I can't wait to go back.

[6thGear.]

I hope they eased up on the salt for the pasta. Seems like quite a few reviews also thought their pasta was on the salty side

[iwantaskyline]

It isn't a requirement if their are partitions or plexiglass or something of the sort in between. On another note, how was the food? They just got a great new chef de cuisine there and I can't wait to go back.

Food was amazing as per usual, especially the Tagliatelle. I've been a few times already. Hmmm yeah no pexiglass and nothing between us and the other table but we were roughly 4 feet apart.

[westopher]

Hmm. It's tough, because sometimes the day things start 2M apart, and that said, it should be seat to seat, but sometimes an overzealous host or customer for that matter slides a chair somewhere where it shouldn't be. But yeah, person to person (not necessarily tables, depending on seating arrangement) still need to be 2M apart, unless there are dividers. That said I believe if the seats are back to back they don't need to be 2M.

[Hehe]

Every one of us at work wears a mask all day. Lots of places aren't and I can't understand it. We were all completely fucked 2 months ago, to the point where we legitimately believed almost every (dine in) restaurant in the city would permanently close if it continued through the summer. I don't know why people are playing with their health and their livelihood. I've heard the argument from some people, "why would I want to go out and get served by someone in a mask?"
Well maybe because those are the places that are professional enough to put the health and safety of their customers and staff where it should be. Like, you don't eat your servers face, what the fuck does it negatively affect you that they have a mask on? It's an uncomfortable environment? The places that aren't going above and beyond what's mandated should be the uncomfortable environment.

IMO masks are like condoms. You get a high level of protection if you wear it (both to and from people). Not using it is pretty fucked up and I'd probably actively avoid the place if I see them without masks.

So, kudos for using it all the time because I get uncomfortable after half hours... can't imagine if I had to wear that thing the entire work time.