[CRS]

good looking out - somebody go get this!

still waiting for an email text or callback from about a dozen pharmacies in north van. starting to think there were never many doses here and that they are in hotter spots

edit: why tell us we're effectively out of AZ vaccines if you can still walk in and get it? fucking gov just continues to botch this

The vials contain a little more than their prescribed amount (think of it like a baker's dozen - you pay for 12 and get 13). So you can combine a few of them and get an extra dose.

I assume that they are using these extra doses for walk ins.

[westopher]

I believe someone here who knows better (maybe spoon.ek9) said they don’t combine vials. I thought the earlier thing with the Pfizer vials that was the case but it just has a full extra dose left when you have the proper syringe to get every last drop.

[The Producer]

just do a full lockdown

advised by LTL carriers I cannot ship anything to Quebec for a week.

how do you plan to get by with zero income during a lock down? just bleed out savings indefinitely?

[spoon.ek9]

I believe someone here who knows better (maybe spoon.ek9) said they don’t combine vials. I thought the earlier thing with the Pfizer vials that was the case but it just has a full extra dose left when you have the proper syringe to get every last drop.

they won't mix different brands together. if it's all the same brand, we'll draw it all up and use as much of it as possible for extra doses. this is true in general of all medications.

[JDMDreams]

You really should ask what you're doing with your life if you can't handle one month's expense without your income.

:pokerface:how do you plan to get by with zero income during a lock down? just bleed out savings indefinitely?

[The Producer]

You really should ask what you're doing with your life if you can't handle one month's expense without your income.

:pokerface:

you really are an asshole you know that?

I know exactly what I'm doing with my life. I've been running my successful brick and mortar business for the past 12 years. A business I built that almost exclusively supporting events, and recognition. Gatherings of any kind. Gatherings that have been prohibited for the past 14 months. I'm not alone in that - 10's of thousands of people are in exactly the same position.

I've spent those past 14 months trying to keep it alive, pivoting to anything I can do to keep it going, all with the hope that we'll get back to normal as soon as possible. That means what little I can earn right now is desperately needed to keep the lights on. A lock down now (the effectiveness of which is highly debatable) would be devastating.

You really should ask what you're doing with your life if you can't handle 14 months expenses without 75% of your income.

[Obsideon]

Agreed, if that statement was made LAST April, it would make more sense.
I honestly don't think many businesses are going to survive another lockdown NOW. (including us)

Heck even this indoor dining restriction has shuttered another handful of restaurants I personally know... :(

[Obsideon]

Personally I've been advocating for a full lock down since the beginning but we are far too deep in the shit now after our government half-assed it for over a year.

Oh I have an analogy, you contract a flesh eating bacteria on your hand, instead of amputating the arm, you keep trying to rub ointment on it. It continues to spread, you try other creams that aren't clinically proven to work.
It has now spread to your chest, then the doctors decide, ok we need to cut you in half to stop the spread. :badpokerface:

[yray]

how do you plan to get by with zero income during a lock down? just bleed out savings indefinitely?

didn't we do it last year?

everyone WFH, saved enough money to buy houses :badpokerface:

Many countries have pulled second lockdowns and it worked, at least cases are manageable now.

[SkinnyPupp]

Update on Israel, where 60% of the population are vaccinated

https://twitter.com/RanBalicer/status/1385547367026466823

[68style]

But how many people are mind controlled now? :pokerface:

Super exciting to see... our numbers are going to fall off a cliff (the good kind of fall off a cliff) soon I hope!!

[JDMDreams]

Read my post and your post again. A true lock down isn't indefinite. Let's say REAL FULL LOCK DOWN for a month. Everything reopens as normal after like Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan. Do you see all businesses closing. You business owners need to reflect this to the politicians. If Canada followed this we wouldn't have half assed indefinite lock downs that's fucking everyone up.

[Hondaracer]

Kinda doubt if we had a month long lock down in October we’d any different than we are today

[SSM_DC5]

good looking out - somebody go get this!

still waiting for an email text or callback from about a dozen pharmacies in north van. starting to think there were never many doses here and that they are in hotter spots

edit: why tell us we're effectively out of AZ vaccines if you can still walk in and get it? fucking gov just continues to botch this

edit 2: just called every pharmacy in north van again, still no doses.

Maybe call up the location I mentioned and just go there? Bby isn't that far from North Van and might be better use of your time than calling around and waiting on hold each time before hearing no.

[The Producer]

Read my post and your post again. A true lock down isn't indefinite. Let's say REAL FULL LOCK DOWN for a month. Everything reopens as normal after like Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan. Do you see all businesses closing. You business owners need to reflect this to the politicians. If Canada followed this we wouldn't have half assed indefinite lock downs that's fucking everyone up.

that's not what you said at all - you specifically decided to make an off handed remark about other people's abilities to manage their lives.

your post contributed nothing to this conversation, and whether intentionally or not was pretty condescending. you've got a tiny, narrow viewpoint of what is happening around you now - in the present. All I ever hear from you is what we should have done. small business is heavily advocating for support from the government.

I'm just glad you're not in charge - you'd probably be welding apartment doors shut.

[The Producer]

Maybe call up the location I mentioned and just go there? Bby isn't that far from North Van and might be better use of your time than calling around and waiting on hold each time before hearing no.

i did call them - 5 minutes after you posted it. no walk ins. and pretty grumpy that I bypassed the covid information message playback and pushed through to the pharmacist.

what i did do was go out immediately after that and hit up a half dozen pharmacies on the north vancouver list in person right after that. none have had any stock for walk ins at all. I spoke with a very nice lady at the pharmasave that confirmed that they never had much to begin with

[Hakkaboy]

that's not what you said at all - you specifically decided to make an off handed remark about other people's abilities to manage their lives.

your post contributed nothing to this conversation, and whether intentionally or not was pretty condescending. you've got a tiny, narrow viewpoint of what is happening around you now - in the present. All I ever hear from you is what we should have done.

I'm just glad you're not in charge - you'd probably be welding apartment doors shut.

The only way we can get out of this WITHOUT a full scale lockdown today or in the future is by widespread vaccine use.

Unfortunately the government dropped the ball on that too, so here we are.

[JDMDreams]

Time to weld the doors? It does work, can't spread of you don't go in or out.

[SSM_DC5]

i did call them - 5 minutes after you posted it. no walk ins. and pretty grumpy that I bypassed the covid information message playback and pushed through to the pharmacist.

what i did do was go out immediately after that and hit up a half dozen pharmacies on the north vancouver list in person right after that. none have had any stock for walk ins at all. I spoke with a very nice lady at the pharmasave that confirmed that they never had much to begin with

Sorry but I think the person who answered you was wrong. Apparently that location is now out of doses.
As of 30 mins ago, about 50 doses at the old orchard shoppers remaining for walk in.

[The Producer]

Sorry but I think the person who answered you was wrong. Apparently that location is now out of doses.
As of 30 mins ago, about 50 doses at the old orchard shoppers remaining for walk in.

I don't think they were wrong on the phone, i think they don't want to tell people they have doses when they can deliver as much as they want to with people who happen to come in. they definitely don't want to promise more than they have.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/private-clinic-cancelled-bc-1.6000651


B.C. cancels Vancouver country club's clinic offering AstraZeneca vaccine to members

this is exactly my issue - and why the pharmacies shouldn't be in charge of this system. It should be totally transparent, and centrally organized.

Not even a West Van pharmacy. New West residents would miss out on doses because this guy is mule'ing it over to the BP's for a bunch of Karens.

[EvoFire]

Time to weld the doors? It does work, can't spread of you don't go in or out.

Awesome, we'll start with yours :rukidding:

There are plenty of business owners here who are operating on massively reduced incomes, yet doing the right thing to try and keep their workers afloat.

If you said lock it down at the beginning, I bet everyone would be with you. Just because it doesn't massively affect you doesn't mean it won't to others.

Also from the government's track record, they'll probably just do it all wrong anyways and all the wrong people will suffer for it, and the assholes will still do everything to skirt the rules.

[whitev70r]

Outbreak at a well-known car dealer.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7785492/bmw-dealership-covid-outbreak/

[Ch28]

Personally I've been advocating for a full lock down since the beginning but we are far too deep in the shit now after our government half-assed it for over a year.

Oh I have an analogy, you contract a flesh eating bacteria on your hand, instead of amputating the arm, you keep trying to rub ointment on it. It continues to spread, you try other creams that aren't clinically proven to work.
It has now spread to your chest, then the doctors decide, ok we need to cut you in half to stop the spread. :badpokerface:

The BC government's approach to COVID is like wearing a condom after you've gotten the girl pregnant.

[Manic!]

So what Province has done the best?

[westopher]

The Atlantic provinces quite clearly, but they have pretty obvious advantages.

[SumAznGuy]

Sorry but I think the person who answered you was wrong. Apparently that location is now out of doses.
As of 30 mins ago, about 50 doses at the old orchard shoppers remaining for walk in.

After seeing SSM's post, I called the pharmacy and the girl that answered said they can't disclose how many doses they had left but that they did and best I come right away.

I got there just after 4, got my shot at 4:26 and left at 4:42 after waiting 15 mins to see if I had an allergic reaction to the vaccine.

Can't thanks SSM and RS enough for posting the walkin info.

Thank you.

[mikemhg]

Man, it fucking blows my mind how many people I'm seeing on social media that have become anti-vaxers, skeptical of the vaccines.

Can't say I've ever purged so many people from my accounts in my life here.

It's been the ultimate excuse to cut someone off you rarely speak to anyways :lol

[Domed]

Got the pfizer shot yesterday. Minor arm soreness for the day thats it.

[The Producer]

After seeing SSM's post, I called the pharmacy and the girl that answered said they can't disclose how many doses they had left but that they did and best I come right away.

I got there just after 4, got my shot at 4:26 and left at 4:42 after waiting 15 mins to see if I had an allergic reaction to the vaccine.

Can't thanks SSM and RS enough for posting the walkin info.

Thank you.

congrats - this is excellent news. waze told me i could have been there by 415, should have gone for it instead of making my in person tour of north van. as long as the dose got used I'm thrilled.

every single shot in an arm gets us closer the finish line

[Ch28]

Man, it fucking blows my mind how many people I'm seeing on social media that have become anti-vaxers, skeptical of the vaccines.

Can't say I've ever purged so many people from my accounts in my life here.

It's been the ultimate excuse to cut someone off you rarely speak to anyways :lol

It’s also extremely disappointing whenever I load up any sort of social media and see friends just out hanging out at people’s houses and throwing parties. It’s never been easier to cut out all these selfish pricks

[Manic!]

Canadians stuck in India. How stupid are these people.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-india-pakistan-flight-ban-1.6000994

Nineteen-year-old Kajol Johal learned of Thursday's announcement of a 30-day ban from the federal government just hours after she arrived in northern India's Punjab province to visit her sick grandmother.

"There was no warning. I know that I wouldn't have gotten on my flight even if I knew a couple of hours before that there was potential for a ban," the Delta resident told CBC News.

Johal said she only booked off 10 days from work to make the trip, and will now have to start the next term of her university studies using her grandparents' spotty internet connection.

"It's obviously stressful because … I'm not home. I don't feel safe being here," she said.

[Traum]

Man, it fucking blows my mind how many people I'm seeing on social media that have become anti-vaxers, skeptical of the vaccines.

Honestly I'm surprised myself. There are still people that think COVID is nothing more than a bad flu. That the flu kills just as many people as COVID in any given normal year. Despite the staggering number of deaths. Despite ICUs reaching capacity. And these idiots always scream the loudest in the comment section. FailFish

I don't even know what to say.

[SSM_DC5]

After seeing SSM's post, I called the pharmacy and the girl that answered said they can't disclose how many doses they had left but that they did and best I come right away.

I got there just after 4, got my shot at 4:26 and left at 4:42 after waiting 15 mins to see if I had an allergic reaction to the vaccine.

Can't thanks SSM and RS enough for posting the walkin info.

Thank you.
Glad I can help! I wish that producer didn't get the run around.

Honestly I'm surprised myself. There are still people that think COVID is nothing more than a bad flu. That the flu kills just as many people as COVID in any given normal year. Despite the staggering number of deaths. Despite ICUs reaching capacity. And these idiots always scream the loudest in the comment section. FailFish

I don't even know what to say.

With vaccinations going on for months now and looking at trends in the US in terms of decreasing deaths in the same time frame. A response I heard is that it corresponds to the flu season. :rukidding:

[6793026]

So internation travellers are ALLOW to come INTO canada BUT you MUST be
1) Canadian citizen
2) dual Canadian citizen with a valid Canadian passport or special authorization permanent resident of Canada person registered under Canada’s Indian Act
3) protected person
Foreign nationals, including United States (US) citizens, can travel to Canada only if they’re eligible.

There are NO international visiting travel / visa allowed.

Summary, people who are coming and going... are all Canadian citizens (and / or special permit).

Regardless who comes in... you MUST quarantine at hotel. UNLESS you drive back from US, then you quarantine in your own home.


Trudeau plugged the loop hole, India + Paki, must legally ENTER another country, test negative, then test negative to leave on a flight; THEN come to canada and be negative again.

In a way, another country who's willing to take them in... then it's their problem ahahhahah smart *clap clap clap

[Hondaracer]

“You MUST quarantine in a hotel”

Unless you just bypass the like and walk right out

[SkinnyPupp]

So internation travellers are ALLOW to come INTO canada BUT you MUST be
1) Canadian citizen
2) dual Canadian citizen with a valid Canadian passport or special authorization permanent resident of Canada person registered under Canada’s Indian Act
3) protected person
Foreign nationals, including United States (US) citizens, can travel to Canada only if they’re eligible.

There are NO international visiting travel / visa allowed.

Summary, people who are coming and going... are all Canadian citizens (and / or special permit).

Regardless who comes in... you MUST quarantine at hotel. UNLESS you drive back from US, then you quarantine in your own home.


Trudeau plugged the loop hole, India + Paki, must legally ENTER another country, test negative, then test negative to leave on a flight; THEN come to canada and be negative again.

In a way, another country who's willing to take them in... then it's their problem ahahhahah smart *clap clap clap
Is this a new policy?

[Manic!]

Who thought this was a good idea? I wouldn't be surprised if money was involved.

B.C. cancels West Vancouver country club's clinic offering AstraZeneca vaccine to members



The B.C. government has cancelled a "pop up" vaccine clinic planned by an exclusive West Vancouver country club after it sent an email to members offering them doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The email, sent by Hollyburn Country Club CEO Ed McLaughlin on April 22 and obtained by CBC News, said members could email and book their vaccine by providing personal information, including a club ID number.

"We understand that there are long wait lists for COVID-19 vaccines in our local communities. To offer some of our members a convenient way to get the AstraZeneca vaccine, we have organized a pop-up clinic at Hollyburn," the email read in part.

[sonick]

Lol impressive, I ain't even mad.

Would be a great idea for a gym to attract back members: free AZ vaccine with membership!

[Manic!]

Lol impressive, I ain't even mad.

Would be a great idea for a gym to attract back members: free AZ vaccine with membership!

I don't think they have a lack of members. I think it's 40K to join and you have to know someone to join. I have been there twice and the place is really nice.


Application.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57d2e0642994ca9b07ecf05d/t/5b0728cc0e2e724138af4ab2/1527195854025/membership_application_May2018+PRINT.pdf

[Manic!]

Playland opening next weekend.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/playland-to-reopen-in-vancouver-next-weekend-with-limited-capacity-1.5398156?fbclid=IwAR2zyM7GV_N-ks0WxB3BNPWbY5WuK5VtnCLvU3OMYTrf3Tly_lXytjrFVsM

VANCOUVER -- Vancouver's annual amusement park is getting ready to reopen with new COVID-19 protocols.

The amusement park will reopen on May 1 with significantly reduced capacity and only on limited days. Playland is urging people to comply with all health orders, including avoiding travel.

Like last year, physical distancing will be emphasized and all guests over the age of two will be required to wear masks, even when on rides.

[punkwax]

^ seems like a really good idea. If anyone know anything about cleanliness, it’s the carnies.

[sonick]

I don't think they have a lack of members. I think it's 40K to join and you have to know someone to join. I have been there twice and the place is really nice.


Application.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57d2e0642994ca9b07ecf05d/t/5b0728cc0e2e724138af4ab2/1527195854025/membership_application_May2018+PRINT.pdf

I meant it was a good idea to use vaccines as a 'perk' for their members, and that it could be applied similar as a gym promo. Not that the country club needs more members.

[twitchyzero]

some interesting stats

land crossing testing (+) 0.25%

international passengers coming off flights (+) ~2%

yes it only takes one person to spread to communiti es but both are probably lower than what some of us are suspecting

[xxxrsxxx]

Got the pfizer shot yesterday. Minor arm soreness for the day thats it.

How did you manage to get Pfizer? You over 60?

[The Producer]

Just waited an hour and half but got an AZ at superstore w my wife on lougheed in coq.

They’re counting doses now though and turning people away.

Thanks to vaccine hunters for the tip. Still crazy that this is the best we can do

EDIT: this is the twitter feed that hooked us up. everybody in the line up heard about it from here.

https://twitter.com/vaxhunterscan?lang=en


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[twitchyzero]

vaccine demand is waning in the US, some sites are closing

half of adults there have a shot, maybe start sending some up?

[vixroar]

To all those vaccinated: HiFive Chicken is giving away 2 free drumsticks if you show your COVID-19 vaccination card and ID

[yray]

trading vaccination for salmonella :troll:

[Manic!]

Not posting the video but it has gotten so bad in India people are literally dropping in the streets. you have groups of bodies just laying in some places.

[68style]

India government is just murderously negligent at this point.

We got people here comparing Henry to Holocaust doctors... those people should spend a day in fuckin India and see if that changes their tune.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1386391476108599298

[JDMDreams]

But they were having wild parties and weddings a few weeks back:heckno::fulloffuck:


Not posting the video but it has gotten so bad in India people are literally dropping in the streets. you have groups of bodies just laying in some places.

[Manic!]

But they were having wild parties and weddings a few weeks back:heckno::fulloffuck:

I never heard that? It's really really bad. People asking on Reddit where they can get oxygen and medication for there family members. Family members of people in the hospital are buying oxygen on the black market for them.

[JDMDreams]

April 12 pretty much 14 days ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/coronavirus/2021/4/12/1_5383661.html

[Gumby]

April 12 pretty much 14 days ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/coronavirus/2021/4/12/1_5383661.html
Unfortunately for some people, religion trumps common sense/public health orders...

[The Producer]

AZ walk ins this week in surrey (40+) - RS 70% herd immunity!

https://twitter.com/VaxHuntersCan/status/1386490347094777857

[Traum]

Just waited an hour and half but got an AZ at superstore w my wife on lougheed in coq.

Good to hear that you got yourself and the missus the AZ jab. I completely believe in the statement that "the vaccine that is available to you right now is the best vaccine there is".

Having said that, I'm just going to ask you to please keep in mind that even after you've had your 2nd jab (whenever that happens), the AZ vaccine does not seem to afford a great deal of protection against mild to moderate COVID infections caused by the South African variant:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/03/17/astrazeneca-vaccine-fails-to-protect-against-the-south-african-variant/?sh=5b6384896526

I seem to think that SumAznGuy and a few others here on RS have also gotten the AZ vaccine. So please keep this in mind, and don't consider yourself immune to COVID now.

At this point, I am like 99.99% convinced that we're all gonna need a 3rd booster shot like the Pfizer scientist has said...

[Blueboy222]

4Head

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1386391476108599298

But what happens in 2 years when they issue Order 66 through the microchips embedded into our body?!

[Manic!]

Does anyone have family members or friends in india dealing with the new strain? How crazy is it over there right now

I posted before but it's super bad. People dying in the streets and family members having to buy oxygen tanks on the black market for families in the hospital.

[spoon.ek9]

sounds eerily similar to the scenes that were coming out of China a year ago

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/rabbitwithhorns/status/1386399852183965699

[SumAznGuy]

Good to hear that you got yourself and the missus the AZ jab. I completely believe in the statement that "the vaccine that is available to you right now is the best vaccine there is".

Having said that, I'm just going to ask you to please keep in mind that even after you've had your 2nd jab (whenever that happens), the AZ vaccine does not seem to afford a great deal of protection against mild to moderate COVID infections caused by the South African variant:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/03/17/astrazeneca-vaccine-fails-to-protect-against-the-south-african-variant/?sh=5b6384896526

I seem to think that SumAznGuy and a few others here on RS have also gotten the AZ vaccine. So please keep this in mind, and don't consider yourself immune to COVID now.

At this point, I am like 99.99% convinced that we're all gonna need a 3rd booster shot like the Pfizer scientist has said...

At this point, I don't think any of the vaccines are super effective against any of the mutations. Even P and M were tested in the summer when the UK strain wasn't that relevant and now with the double mutation in India.

I do agree, any vaccine right is is the right one.

[gilly]

I posted before but it's super bad. People dying in the streets and family members having to buy oxygen tanks on the black market for families in the hospital.

Yeah... its very bad there. Yesterday, an oxygen tank exploded in ICU ward killing over 80 ppl and injuring over 100. Huge fire in a Baghdad hospital. so sad.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/24/middleeast/baghdad-hospital-fire-oxygen-tanks-explosion-intl/index.html

[sonick]

LoL perfect tweet

https://twitter.com/jbanal/status/1386417901658275841

[pastarocket]

Dr. Bonnie's update for the past weekend:

2491 new cases (881, 847, 763)
17 deaths
484 in hospital
158 in ICU

8199 active cases
12340 in self-isolation

[westopher]

This stupid fucking story. What the fuck is global thinking?
https://globalnews.ca/news/7788196/bc-astrazeneca-demand-road-trip/
Amid dwindling stocks of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and high demand, some British Columbians are going far afield to try and get “the jab.”

“For me it was an enormous weight lifted, I was quite emotional,” Janelle David told Global News.

She and coworker and fellow Masters weightlifter Cat Hambly found themselves on an unexpected spur of the moment road trip to Whistler, Saturday — after striking out on a shot at the shot in Vancouver.

READ MORE: ‘A massive sigh of relief’: Prince Rupert closer to post-COVID life after mass immunizations

On Friday, news of a walk-in vaccine clinic at Vancouver Community College spread rapidly through word of mouth, attracting large crowds, hundreds of whom were turned away when supply ran out.

Hambly and David returned to the site early Saturday morning hoping to get in early.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW ADVERTISEMENT

“(We) lined up with hundreds of people, it went around the block twice. And once the clinic opened at 9:30, about an hour later we were notified they were out of doses,” David said.

Click to play video: 'NACI recommends AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for Canadians 30+'
0:57
NACI recommends AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for Canadians 30+
NACI recommends AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for Canadians 30+
Both Hambly and David registered to be vaccinated as soon as eligibility opened for their age group, and both were on multiple waitlists for the AstraZeneca vaccine.

The pair are both competing virtually in upcoming world championships next month and were hoping to get their shot as soon as possible so it didn’t interfere with training.

After being turned away Saturday, they decided to start looking farther afield.

READ MORE: West Vancouver mayor quits country club over reported ‘exclusive pop-up’ vaccine clinic

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A friend in Squamish told them there were still bookings available — a tip that turned out to be correct but conflicted with their work schedule. But further up Highway 99, they got lucky with an open slot in Whistler.

That’s where a Shoppers Drug Mart pharmacist told them he had bookings available and assured them they were permitted to travel to the community for a shot.

“We assumed it was the same health region, but verified it with him,” David said.

“Like the IKEA ad I said ‘Start the car,’ and we jumped in the car and raced to Whistler in two hours.”

Click to play video: 'Demand for AstraZeneca vaccine spikes in B.C.'
2:14
Demand for AstraZeneca vaccine spikes in B.C.
Demand for AstraZeneca vaccine spikes in B.C.
B.C. opened eligibility for the AstraZeneca vaccine to people over the age of 40 on Monday, with people responsible for finding and booking their own shot through a community pharmacy.

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Those bookings filled up fast, with most pharmacies now running long waitlists.

On Thursday, provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said the province had not received any shipments of the vaccine since the week before and wasn’t sure when it would get more.

“We have very little of it left in the province right now,” she said.

Many have since turned to social media, where accounts like @VaxHuntersCan have been sharing locations that still have supply available.


Hambly chalked the massive demand among the Gen-Xers to the fact that the demographic remains on the front lines of the pandemic.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW ADVERTISEMENT

“We’re the workers still, right? We’re out there with the public.”

David said working closely with clients every day during the pandemic left her constantly anxious.

“It’s weighed heavily that I could become ill, they could become ill, we could be passing it along,” she said.

READ MORE: COVID-19: AstraZeneca vaccine supply dries up in B.C. Interior

With much of B.C.’s remaining supply of the AstraZeneca vaccine now being redirected to clinics in 13 high-transmission communities, the search for available shots is likely to only get tougher.

But the pair say those looking to be vaccinated shouldn’t give up.

“Just be persistent,” Hambly said.

“Just be hungry for it,” David added. “This is a time when we have to take our health into our own hands and do what we need to do.”
TLDR people ignore travel guidelines to get vaccine in whistler, and act like they are fucking superheroes because of it.

[BaoTurbo]

I once asked myself what if the vaccine mutates and turns everyone to flesh eating zombies.

Real life Resident Evil lol :die:

[GS8]

This stupid fucking story. What the fuck is global thinking?
https://globalnews.ca/news/7788196/bc-astrazeneca-demand-road-trip/

TLDR people ignore travel guidelines to get vaccine in whistler, and act like they are fucking superheroes because of it.

I almost threw my remote at the TV when I saw this story. Not only was this cringe piece a waste of air time, it ran at least a solid 5 minutes. It was way worse than the article printed above.

And this just after I went three weeks without watching cable news. When will I learn?

:rukidding:

[westopher]

Fuck me too. I literally yelled at the TV and even my MUCH more tolerant and calm wife was like, what the fuck are they thinking.

[Obsideon]

I once asked myself what if the vaccine mutates and turns everyone to flesh eating zombies.
Real life Resident Evil lol :die:
Watch I Am Legend
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/12/13/movies/13legend-600.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

[twitchyzero]

local cases are plateauing...those community AZ shots seems to be helping?

[GIZZ]

Walmart must have just got a shipment. I just booked at the one closest to me for AZ today.

[GLOW]

LoL perfect tweet

https://twitter.com/jbanal/status/1386417901658275841

they know rain melts snowflakes Kappa

[The Producer]

AZ doses in coq

This post is a bit old, but it seems like they have lots of doses

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/mzidgg/psa_walkin_az_vaccine_availability_in_coquitlam/

also some rumblings on twitter that 30+ age group has been able to receive an AZ shot

https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1387106627455647745

[westopher]

Richard Zussman has done a better job communicating about covid than the people who’s jobs are to do it.

[Hondaracer]

I registered with a few pharmacies being 35, however, no invite yet

My garbage “union” told me to email my MLA in hopes get included in the essential workers program..what a fucking joke

[68style]

I registered when I could, haven’t received a call yet at all and don’t feel like chasing down pharmacies all over the lower mainland, so I guess I’ll just wait for my government ordained time slot.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Theres a pharmacy on scott rd in surrey that has vaccines for over 40 still. But its first.come first serve till 1:30 today, pm if u want to know the details.

[Ch28]

Richard Zussman has done a better job communicating about covid than the people who’s jobs are to do it.

Him and Justin McElroy from CBC have been doing an excellent job asking the questions that the BC government and Bonnie Henry/Adrian Dix refuse to answer.

[CivicBlues]

Marcella Bernardo, on the other hand, can go suck a nut.

[Hondaracer]

CBC in general would take a vaccine of Trudeau Jizz if it was available. Public broadcaster my ass

[punkwax]

Just heard the Cloverdale fair grounds rec centre is taking walk-ins for AZ right now.

I still can’t leave the house until tomorrow :okay:

[sonick]

Him and Justin McElroy from CBC have been doing an excellent job asking the questions that the BC government and Bonnie Henry/Adrian Dix refuse to answer.

McElroy generally is also a pretty amusing follow with his comments and his random projects like the vancouver park rankings, bc beer rankings, and provincial community pin collection.

[mikemhg]

Just heard the Cloverdale fair grounds rec centre is taking walk-ins for AZ right now.

I still can’t leave the house until tomorrow :okay:

Is this for any age? I need to drive out to Cloverdale to get some weed from my guy tomorrow :lol

Jesus, it sure is taking a while for the 35+ age group to get announced here.

[Tapioca]

It's true that AZ is now available for 30+ today. Just got the jab.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Poirier community centre is offering AZ for 30+ today. Just got the jab. About 3000 doses available today.

walk in? or by appointment? ive been calling a bunch of pharmacies and they are either out of vaccines or only offer the vaccine to people over 40. but they do walk ins first come first serve

[Tapioca]

walk in? or by appointment?

Walk-ins allowed with prior registration. This was at Poirier in Coquitlam.

[Hondaracer]

Love that we have to drive around with Twitter open looking for walk ups rather than some sort of actual organized, effective, system..

[RiceIntegraRS]

Love that we have to drive around with Twitter open looking for walk ups rather than some sort of actual organized, effective, system..

Well since its BC im not surprised at all

[Hakkaboy]

Is this correct twitter, or is there another one that is specific to BC?

https://twitter.com/vaxhunterscan?lang=en

[The Producer]

Is this correct twitter, or is there another one that is specific to BC?

https://twitter.com/vaxhunterscan?lang=en

that's it. every tweet is lead w the province though - it's pretty quick to sort through

if you go to their discord chat you can sort by province

[CivicBlues]

It's true that AZ is now available for 30+ today. Just got the jab.

Do you live in a high-transmission area?

[RiceIntegraRS]

Coquitlam is a couple hour wait to get ur vaccine. Line up is huge! They have about 500 doses left. So unless ur on your way. Dont bother imo

[SSM_DC5]

Shoppers at the old best buy across Metrotown has about 70 more doses as of approximately 20 minutes ago.

If RSers are still looking for vaccines, please post up or I'll likely stop bothering you people with updates if no one is looking.

[CRS]

Shoppers at the old best buy across Metrotown has about 70 more doses as of approximately 20 minutes ago.

If RSers are still looking for vaccines, please post up or I'll likely stop bothering you people with updates if no one is looking.

Nah man, keep posting.

I'm spamming my socials with the info to get the word out.

You're doing good work.

[Obsideon]

I didn't know there were so many 40+ geezers on RS haha
I guess it makes sense since RS has been around for 20+ years

[Manic!]

Idiots who think they are above the law.

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6003509.1619531395!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/derek-sloan-randy-hillier-and-henry-hildebrandt.jpg

MPP Randy Hillier, left, and MP Derek Sloan flank Church of God Restoration pastor Henry Hildebrandt after a church service on Sunday. The two politicians were among those charged for defying Ontario's pandemic rules. (Facebook.com/ontariocog)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/hillier-sloan-aylmer-church-charges-covid-19-1.6003365?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

[westopher]

Derek Sloan is such a fucking cunt.

[Ch28]

I hope they get COVID.

[iwantaskyline]

Quebec women 54 years old dies from blood clots developed after taking Astra Zeneca.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7812813/quebec-covid19-april-27-2021/

Quebec has announced its first death linked to a blood clot after a woman in her 50s received Oxford-AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine.

[320icar]

I’ve decided to do a complete 180° and change my view. I’ve been a frontline worker this entire time and I’m fucking sick of it. Stick anything in my arm and let’s get this over with.

Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ. I can’t help but take it personal as someone who has been seeing 6k people a day 5x a week and don’t have the luxury to stay at home.

Fuck you. Take the risk and do your fucking part

[Hondaracer]

People gonna wait and get AZ anyways lol

Once wife and I get that first shot this isolation going out the window. My parents are vaccinated, most of my friends (ironically who are “less essential” than I) are vaccinated

Not gonna give af anymore frankly. Obviously going to still follow guidelines with strangers snd that jazz but I’m gonna be givin er.

[320icar]

I agree. My son was born last may. Almost all my family and most my friends haven’t even seen him. His 1st birthday is this Saturday, and guess what, SAME SHIT. He’s going to be the only child I have and no one even got a chance to see him as a baby. Fucked up.

[westopher]

I’ve decided to do a complete 180° and change my view. I’ve been a frontline worker this entire time and I’m fucking sick of it. Stick anything in my arm and let’s get this over with.

Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ. I can’t help but take it personal as someone who has been seeing 6k people a day 5x a week and don’t have the luxury to stay at home.

Fuck you. Take the risk and do your fucking part

Welcome to my rage garage. Take a seat and I’ll pour you a fuckin beer.

[iwantaskyline]

I’ve decided to do a complete 180° and change my view. I’ve been a frontline worker this entire time and I’m fucking sick of it. Stick anything in my arm and let’s get this over with.

Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ. I can’t help but take it personal as someone who has been seeing 6k people a day 5x a week and don’t have the luxury to stay at home.

Fuck you. Take the risk and do your fucking part

Why do you take it personally if they are truly stay at home 40 yr olds? If they are abiding by restrictions/social distancing they realistically face extremely minimal risk of contracting the virus and are not the problem.

It's people who are eligible for AZ but don't abide by restrictions you should be angry at.

Personally, regarding AZ - I don't blame anyone for waiting until a Pfizer/Moderna shot. There are countries like Denmark and Australia who have halted AZ shots altogether for a reason. My dad's taken it since he still works but since my mom is a stay at home mother who doesn't leave the house she's hesitant. For myself, I'm young and I WFH - I abide by all restrictions and I don't live with them. When the time comes I'll probably go with whatever shot's available but I don't blame anyone for preferring Pfizer/Modern.

Yes, I know people are quick to point out that birth control have higher chances of blood clots but these people fail to mention AZ is linked to a much more lethal form of blood clots (they develop in the brain).

[iwantaskyline]

People gonna wait and get AZ anyways lol

Once wife and I get that first shot this isolation going out the window. My parents are vaccinated, most of my friends (ironically who are “less essential” than I) are vaccinated

Not gonna give af anymore frankly. Obviously going to still follow guidelines with strangers snd that jazz but I’m gonna be givin er.

I think some people are waiting to see how the supply of Pfizer/Moderna is going to change in the next two months since America's supplies are going to be available.

Let's be real here - if Canada's covid numbers were similar to Australia they would have halted AZ shots a long time ago.

[westopher]

Yes, I know people are quick to point out that birth control have higher chances of blood clots but these people fail to mention AZ is linked to a much more lethal form of blood clots (they develop in the brain).
1 death/200k from the pill
3 deaths/200k from the patch
25 deaths/200k related directly to pregnancy
Astra Zeneca vaccine deaths
32 deaths/8million
.8 deaths/200k

So no ones really failing to mention anything.

To note on your earlier point though, I don't think anyone, 320icar or me is directing the issue with people like you who are literally isolating. The issue we have is the people we see, and interact with on a daily basis in our jobs spouting shit about how they won't get the shot when we clearly see their behaviour right in front of us.

[iwantaskyline]

1 death/200k from the pill
3 deaths/200k from the patch
25 deaths/200k related directly to pregnancy
Astra Zeneca vaccine deaths
32 deaths/8million
.8 deaths/200k

So no ones really failing to mention anything.

To note on your earlier point though, I don't think anyone, 320icar or me is directing the issue with people like you who are literally isolating. The issue we have is the people we see, and interact with on a daily basis in our jobs spouting shit about how they won't get the shot when we clearly see their behaviour right in front of us.

Well, he wrote "Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ" so I was mostly replying under that context.

[The Producer]

https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/sudden-covid-death-of-46-year-old-father-at-home-leaves-family-devastated-3670229

i went to highschool with this guy (just, 5 years older than me)

if you're eligible, go get a shot. this could be any one of us. it's not some random 4 in a million statistic - it's a guy who grew up down the street from me. he literally missed the option to be vaccinated by 2-3? weeks. he might still be alive

if you end up in a hospital (or worse) a month from now, you'll sure wish that you hadn't waited for the "better vaccine" because of some stuff you read on the internet

this isn't an attack - i just think for some people, even after a year of this, it just isn't real enough.

[westopher]

So many =/= all, and to be quite honest, I'm seeing lots of people I know that "stay home" for work, posting stories or photos at restaurants, or doing whatever with people they don't live with. To be honest, I get it, and I don't really give a fuck about that as long as you aren't being an idiot, but once you do those things, then literally get handed a key to walk through the door that ends this, and say, nah I want a better key, that's a genuine slap in the face to everyone around you thats waiting.
There is a clear and present danger with Covid and people are using a "what if I get hit by lightning" argument to drag it out.

[Tapioca]

I don't think anyone would argue that Pfizer/Moderna aren't superior to AZ. The risks associated with AZ are unquestionably higher, given what we know. If given an immediate choice, I think everyone would take Pfizer or Moderna.

However, Moderna continues to have supply chain issues, so there's definitely no guarantee that younger people will have access to it for many months. I'm betting that it will be J&J that most younger people will be getting, which has an efficacy rate on par with AZ. The risk of getting a variant of COVID is pretty high right now, particularly in Fraser Health, unless you don't go out at all.

We have kids in the school system and the Tri-Cities is a hot spot with exposure notices pretty much on the daily, so that's how I rationalized the decision to take AZ. My parents have been vaxxed, so have my in-laws. We wish to actually spend time with them this summer, rather than to rely on a government vaccine schedule which is highly likely to be delayed given supply chain issues, so that was another motivating factor for us.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1387255022438780932

[Traum]

Take it easy and don't let it get to you.

The way I look at it is, some people may choose to refuse to get the AZ vaccine for whatever reason. But you know what? Even though they are not getting that AZ vaccine, those very same AZ vaccines aren't just sitting idle at the vaccination centers or pharmacies. There are still huge line ups of people waiting up to 4 - 5 hours to get themselves vaccinated. In that sense, we are still getting people vaccinated as quickly as the system allows. There is no wastage. It's just different people getting protected first, at least at this point. And given the vaccine supplies, it is probably going to stay that way for at least another 2 months with people getting their 1st dose. And then if we've exhausted everyone who is willing to get their first AZ vaccine, we can start processing people for their 2nd jabs.

So to me, as long as we are still vaccinating people as quickly as we can, nothing is being wasted, the vaccines are protecting more and more people, and I'm happy to see that.

I’ve decided to do a complete 180° and change my view. I’ve been a frontline worker this entire time and I’m fucking sick of it. Stick anything in my arm and let’s get this over with.

Sooo many of the stay at home 40y/o’s I know are refusing to get the AZ. I can’t help but take it personal as someone who has been seeing 6k people a day 5x a week and don’t have the luxury to stay at home.

Fuck you. Take the risk and do your fucking part

[RiceIntegraRS]

Why do you take it personally if they are truly stay at home 40 yr olds? If they are abiding by restrictions/social distancing they realistically face extremely minimal risk of contracting the virus and are not the problem.

It's people who are eligible for AZ but don't abide by restrictions you should be angry at.

I think its the situation as a whole. Hospitals are severely short staffed. Doctors, Nurses, clerks, ect. are overworked and burnt out to the point where they are leaving the covid wards for other departments in the hospitals which makes even more hectic for the remaining workers. All because people cant even follow simple guidelines. And the government cant do their jobs properly and in the end it all falls on the shoulders of the people that work in the hospitals. They get the shit end of the stick any way you slice it and now people are avoiding certain vaccines all together is just the cherry on top of the cake for them.

I told my wife "what would happen if you guys just decided to strike, you guys said fuck it, if people dont wanna take the necessary steps to save their own lives, why should you care about theirs." She obviously didnt say anything cause shes too nice. But if it was me i would of fucked off a long time ago. Obviously they wouldnt do that cause they arent dickheads like me but when is enough enough?

Anyways i got the AZ vaccine today at Coquitlam Porier Center. Waited almost 4 hours for it. Feels like my tiny wife punched me in the shoulder as hard as she could.

[whitev70r]

Take it easy and don't let it get to you.

The way I look at it is, some people may choose to refuse to get the AZ vaccine for whatever reason. But you know what? Even though they are not getting that AZ vaccine, those very same AZ vaccines aren't just sitting idle at the vaccination centers or pharmacies. There are still huge line ups of people waiting up to 4 - 5 hours to get themselves vaccinated. In that sense, we are still getting people vaccinated as quickly as the system allows. There is no wastage. It's just different people getting protected first, at least at this point. And given the vaccine supplies, it is probably going to stay that way for at least another 2 months with people getting their 1st dose. And then if we've exhausted everyone who is willing to get their first AZ vaccine, we can start processing people for their 2nd jabs.

So to me, as long as we are still vaccinating people as quickly as we can, nothing is being wasted, the vaccines are protecting more and more people, and I'm happy to see that.

This ... calm rational logic. You cannot vaccinate faster than the supply - doesn't matter ... Covidiots or good abiding citizens. Vaccines are ending up in arms. And anecdotes even here are people waiting 4 hrs plus in line for it and pharmacies running out. Only real solution is, if Canada had more vaccine supply, is to open 24/7.

[Hondaracer]

I think its the situation as a whole. Hospitals are severely short staffed. Doctors, Nurses, clerks, ect. are overworked and burnt out to the point where they are leaving the covid wards for other departments in the hospitals which makes even more hectic for the remaining workers. All because people cant even follow simple guidelines. And the government cant do their jobs properly and in the end it all falls on the shoulders of the people that work in the hospitals. They get the shit end of the stick any way you slice it and now people are avoiding certain vaccines all together is just the cherry on top of the cake for them.

I told my wife "what would happen if you guys just decided to strike, you guys said fuck it, if people dont wanna take the necessary steps to save their own lives, why should you care about theirs." She obviously didnt say anything cause shes too nice. But if it was me i would of fucked off a long time ago. Obviously they wouldnt do that cause they arent dickheads like me but when is enough enough?

Anyways i got the AZ vaccine today at Coquitlam Porier Center. Waited almost 4 hours for it. Feels like my tiny wife punched me in the shoulder as hard as she could.

Not trying to sound crass but a good chunk of hospital admissions are probably due to people not taking care of their own health and as a result others having to care for them.

It’s one thing in a place like India etc. Where id completely understand walking out and never coming back. However here, in the western world in a relatively comfortable part of it, it’s a bit much to think nurses would take that stance. Don’t they have their own kind of code of conduct or decree when you become a nurse that helping others is your main priority above all else or somthing?

It’s obviously very hard for them, but it’s their job. As are many other essential people. If anything this pandemic has shown that nurses and doctors are worth their weight in gold and deserve anything coming to them in terms of pay raises etc

[westopher]

They have a finite amount of resources. Yes they sign up to help people.
They don’t sign up for a medical system that involves working 70hr weeks, being short staffed, and short on beds.
They don’t sign up for a system that’s strained to the point of postponing people’s cancer treatments, or dealing with dying people not being able to see their loved ones one last time.
Things aren’t normal for them right now, and it’s never been like this, even though obviously Canada hasn’t seen near what some places in the world have.

[winson604]

Phizer drop in today at the same place in Coquitlam they did the AZ drop in yesterday. 200 in line, they said they're taking the first 500.

[blkgsr]

i got AZ at the coquitlam drop in yesterday

feel perfectly fine. MAAYBE a little more yawns today and MAYBE SLIGHTLY foggy vision but otherwise perfectly fine.

those were MAJOR maybe's.

[mikemhg]

Ok I'm still totally confused here.

Can 30+ now get the vaccine? How can I do so without waiting in a lineup for hours? I thought we could schedule our vaccination?

[punkwax]

30+ can get in line.

If you don’t want to, register on the govt site and you’ll just wait until your age bracket starts to get scheduled.

[yray]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-emily-victoria-viegas-13-is-one-of-the-youngest-people-in-canada-to/

When Emily Viegas started exhibiting some of the same COVID-19 symptoms that had put her mother in hospital – difficulty breathing, an inability to stand – her father, Carlos, faced an agonizing situation.

He was the only one in his family of four who had tested negative for COVID-19 and was at home in Brampton, Ont., with his two children while his wife was at Brampton Civic Hospital on oxygen. Mr. Viegas was under strict self-isolation orders from public health and wasn’t sure if he should call an ambulance. He also knew Brampton Civic was one of the most strained hospitals in the country and he feared his daughter might be taken to a hospital further away in another Toronto suburb, Oakville. He didn’t like the idea of her being separated from both her parents.

He routinely checked her temperature, gave her Tylenol to bring her fever down, and urged her to drink lots of water and eat some of her favourite foods – hot dogs and multi-grain pasta – even though she didn’t have much of an appetite. She was 13, Mr. Viegas reasoned, and she would probably be back to normal quickly.

The next day, April 22, she became one of the youngest Canadians to die from COVID-19 – and part of a growing trend of younger victims in the pandemic’s third wave.

André Picard: The death of a child speaks volumes about Canada’s tepid COVID-19 response

Why we need to get it right: Inside the country’s hardest-hit ICUs

Severe outcomes from COVID-19 infections remain exceedingly rare in children. Though 208,195 people under 19 have been infected with COVID-19 as of April 23, the majority have had mild cases. In total, 142 have been admitted to ICU and eight have died, according to national statistics.

Though Mr. Viegas was the only one in the family to leave the apartment over the past many months – he was the sole breadwinner and worked at a warehouse – he was somehow the only one spared from COVID-19. His wife was the first one to fall ill, though she stayed at home for a week before getting tested and learning she had the coronavirus. During that period, Mr. Viegas continued going to work and his children occasionally went into their mother’s room to bring her food and water. On April 14, the day after Mr. Viegas’s wife got her test results, she had so much trouble breathing that she was taken to hospital and put on oxygen.

Back at the apartment, Emily had developed a stubborn cough, but otherwise felt well. Well enough to engage in the moody sparring most 13-year-olds have with their parents. Mr. Viegas would tell her to stop playing Minecraft or texting her friends and do her homework.

“No way,” she’d respond, often with colourful language. “Get lost, old man.”

But after a week, as a fever came on and Emily’s breathing became laboured, their father-daughter exchanges shifted.

Mr. Viegas occasionally noticed Emily struggling to inhale, which would cause her to panic, which would only make it harder to take in air.

“It scared me, but I kept telling her, ‘Slow down. Slow your breathing down so you’re not using all the energy you have to get air,’” he recalled.

On April 22, Emily woke up in the bedroom she shares with her younger brother, went to the bathroom, then returned to bed, lying beneath posters of mermaids and characters from the film Frozen. Just after 9 a.m., Emily’s brother noticed she wasn’t moving and raced to get their father.

Mr. Viegas found his daughter laying eerily still, her eyes partly open, and completely unresponsive.

He called 911 and was instructed to give his daughter CPR. When paramedics arrived, they cleared Mr. Viegas and his son out of the room and tried to resuscitate Emily, too, and briefly got her heart beating again, but she still wasn’t breathing. They tried again. After she was rushed to hospital, a doctor called Mr. Viegas and said they would try once more but if they failed, they’d pronounce her dead. Three hours after Mr. Viegas had put his head on his daughter’s chest, he got another call she was gone. Doctors said she not only had COVID-19, but also pneumonia.

“To tell you the truth, it felt real when I found her in bed. I put my head to her chest and I couldn’t feel nothing. No heartbeat. No nothing. No breathing,” Mr. Viegas said.

Sudden deaths in young people have become more common in this third wave of the pandemic. In the first three weeks of April, Ontario’s coroners have seen 25 cases of people in Southern and Central Ontario who have died at home from the illness, some in their 20s and 30s.

The Viegases live in a two-bedroom apartment in a COVID-19 hot spot in east Brampton, a city with a 22-per-cent test positivity rate, the highest in Ontario. That’s in large part because of the high volume of essential workers in the city, many of whom live in crowded housing where it’s difficult to physically distance. Mr. Viegas, 58, got vaccinated on April 12, but his wife, still recovering in hospital, hasn’t received her jab yet.

While a patchwork of mobile vaccination clinics have opened across Toronto hot spots to offer vaccines to anyone over 18, there is only one such clinic housed at a large Hindu temple for hot-spot residents of Brampton – and, technically, it’s in Toronto.

Mr. Viegas’s wife’s oxygen levels are up to 80 per cent now and he’s hopeful she’ll come home soon. Informing her of their daughter’s death was “as hard as it could be,” he said. As Mr. Viegas is still in isolation, the business of sharing the news with friends and making funeral arrangements have fallen to other members of the family.

“I don’t know details. I don’t even know if we’re going to have the viewing or not,” Mr. Viegas said. “And my mother’s not going because she doesn’t want to see her granddaughter in a box.”


no wonder ontario has crazy high numbers, household is positive, keeps going to work. Daughter can't breath, won't take her to the hospital.

[MarkyMark]

Ok I'm still totally confused here.

Can 30+ now get the vaccine? How can I do so without waiting in a lineup for hours? I thought we could schedule our vaccination?

If you registered you can just wait until they contact you which might take awhile but you can schedule what day and time to show up to avoid lineups. If you want a shot right now you'll be waiting in lines unless you luck out.

[sonick]

Ok I'm still totally confused here.

Can 30+ now get the vaccine? How can I do so without waiting in a lineup for hours? I thought we could schedule our vaccination?

30+ can get in line.

If you don’t want to, register on the govt site and you’ll just wait until your age bracket starts to get scheduled.

Is the ability to line up for the vaccine if you're 30+ just for hotspot areas or across all of BC?

This is fucking ridiculous I have to be asking these questions in a car forum and not reading an official resource from our health authority.

Edit: I did just go to BC's COVID authority page (https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/info/response) to check that it wasn't me who was wrong, it's still showing 40+ to line up to get the AZ vaccine, and was last updated April 23rd :rukidding:

[Gumby]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-emily-victoria-viegas-13-is-one-of-the-youngest-people-in-canada-to/




no wonder ontario has crazy high numbers, household is positive, keeps going to work. Daughter can't breath, won't take her to the hospital.
Wow, what a tragic story. As an observer, it’s easy to determine the right course of action. But put yourself in his shoes, and the choices are much more difficult.

[BlackV62K2]

This is fucking ridiculous I have to be asking these questions in a car forum and not reading an official resource from our health authority.


PHO and our government is like that person you keep getting mixed signals from.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Is the ability to line up for the vaccine if you're 30+ just for hotspot areas or across all of BC?

This is fucking ridiculous I have to be asking these questions in a car forum and not reading an official resource from our health authority.


Its only for immunization centers that have extra doses lying around that need to be used before they expire which is the rumour on the "street". They said fraser health website gets updated with the info but from what i can tell it gets updated too late where the general public is too late to make it there in time. People today waited outside the center before it opened hoping they would accept walkins for a select # of people and were rewarded. When i was waiting in line yesterdat i saw a few people i kinda knew who werent even living in the hotspot areas that was required to get the shot. And i saw people who were easily in there early 20s there aswell. Im not sure if they were turned away or not.

Its kinda an every man for himself, first come first serve situation going on right now, but i guess thats better than just throwing vaccines away.

[SSM_DC5]

Nah man, keep posting.

I'm spamming my socials with the info to get the word out.

You're doing good work.

Alright, I'll keep posting, but please be mindful of the audience you reach. I really don't want to create mass crowds.

For those looking for 30+ locations, please don't purposely go into the hotspots to get vaccinated. Kind of defeats the purpose of trying to control the problem areas when you do not even frequently travel within the hotspots.

[CivicBlues]

Are they not checking residency to see if the 30+ people live in high-transmission areas? If not, why the fuck not?

[whitev70r]

^ prob not, just for the sake of efficiency, jab the arm ... next please. It doesn't matter ... as long as a vaccine ends up in an arm.

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/rumneeek/status/1387429924420521988

[CivicBlues]

^ prob not, just for the sake of efficiency, jab the arm ... next please. It doesn't matter ... as long as a vaccine ends up in an arm.

if that's the case are they even checking if the shots being given are first or 2nd shots even?

What. a. fucking. shitshow.

[Hondaracer]

The news yesterday said they are not checking.

Love ittttt love itttttt

[RiceIntegraRS]

Sorry double post

Im pretty sure they are checking but are the enforcing? I overheard the workers there trying to overide the system cause someone wanted a shot but wasnt eligible because of location. They felt bad for the guy cause he waited 4 hrs. I heard the one nurse say theres a way to do it. But did they? Im not sure but its pretty obvious entering the wrong postal code would of done the trick

[Hondaracer]

While the “essentials” be working snd can’t just randomly up and go wait in line for 3 hours. Fantastic

[CivicBlues]

Well good to know all the people going to get these vaccines are ones that have nothing better to do than wait all day in lines.

They'd be better suited to be given to customer facing people. Just give the malls or big box stores a call and tell them to send any willing employees at this certain date and time and give them the shots.

[pastarocket]

-looks like that penthouse night club guy Mo is going to jail after all. Just one day of jail though :lawl:

Mo pleaded guilty.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/04/28/vancouver-man-who-police-say-ran-condo-nightclub-pleads-guilty-to-health-charges/

VANCOUVER — A Vancouver man arrested on allegations he was running a makeshift nightclub inside his penthouse has pleaded guilty to three charges, including failing to follow orders of a health officer.

Mohammad Movassaghi was sentenced today to one day in jail, a $5,000 fine and 18 months of probation after previously pleading guilty.

Judge Ellen Gordon noted his one-day jail sentence has already been served, but he'll also have to complete 50 hours of community service work.

Movassaghi pleaded guilty to two counts of failing to comply with an order of a health officer dating back to January and one count of disobeying a court order from a charge in March.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Well good to know all the people going to get these vaccines are ones that have nothing better to do than wait all day in lines.

They'd be better suited to be given to customer facing people. Just give the malls or big box stores a call and tell them to send any willing employees at this certain date and time and give them the shots.

Like i said b4, the vaccines expire. Even though not comfirmed, they are trying to use them all up before they do. Imagine how long it would take them to announce people who are in need of the vaccine "customer service people" ect. How long it would take to book them and for them to all show up. Then make sure everyone is who they say they are. No one would ever receive those vaccines. Im not saying this is at all an efficient way to do anything but ive said this many times, this is BC nothing is ever easy or efficient. Its just the way it is right now. A clusterfuck.

Theses are the cards that are dealt to us and all we can do is play ball and bend the rules alil bit. If anyone is really wanting a vaccine, id say go and get it. Pretend your buying the new fucking iPhone, goto immunization center before it opens and hopefully ull be lucky enough to get a jab in the arm and be on your merry way. Being a boy scout and following the rules doesnt get you anything here. All you get is a one way ticket to the back of the line.

[Traum]

Doesn't 18 months on probation means he gets to avoid jail?

[Obsideon]

So without any sort of checking system you can go back and get 10 jabs in a week and turn into the Hulk?

[SumAznGuy]

Doesn't 18 months on probation means he gets to avoid jail?

Well, he got 1 day in jail, prolly time served on the day he was arrested.
So yeah, basically 18 months of probation, so in other words nothing has changed and life goes on.

[Obsideon]

I agree. My son was born last may. Almost all my family and most my friends haven’t even seen him. His 1st birthday is this Saturday, and guess what, SAME SHIT. He’s going to be the only child I have and no one even got a chance to see him as a baby. Fucked up.

My sister-in-law just gave birth in 2019 and they have been carefully isolating for most of the pandemic. Rare visits even from family members except to drop off food or supplies.
Now the baby cries like crazy every time any other adult gets close besides mom and dad. He has been accustomed to thinking they are the only safe people in the world, even the grandparents can't hold him for more than 5 seconds ... it's really sad to see.

[320icar]

While the “essentials” be working snd can’t just randomly up and go wait in line for 3 hours. Fantastic

That’s my issue. My workplace HAS A pharmacy. I asked last night and they refused because as far as the CDC has told them, AZ is still just 40+

[Hondaracer]

Like i said b4, the vaccines expire. Even though not comfirmed, they are trying to use them all up before they do. Imagine how long it would take them to announce people who are in need of the vaccine "customer service people" ect. How long it would take to book them and for them to all show up. Then make sure everyone is who they say they are. No one would ever receive those vaccines. Im not saying this is at all an efficient way to do anything but ive said this many times, this is BC nothing is ever easy or efficient. Its just the way it is right now. A clusterfuck.

Theses are the cards that are dealt to us and all we can do is play ball and bend the rules alil bit. If anyone is really wanting a vaccine, id say go and get it. Pretend your buying the new fucking iPhone, goto immunization center before it opens and hopefully ull be lucky enough to get a jab in the arm and be on your merry way. Being a boy scout and following the rules doesnt get you anything here. All you get is a one way ticket to the back of the line.

Bend the rules a little eh, well fuck might as well just take it all the way and say fuck it go have a house party

My issue isn’t this is happening. My problem is this is another example of this complete shit show, hap-hazard roll out with no rhyme or reason as to why things happen.

Just makes me feel like if the govt. cares this little to roll out an effective protocol, why should I listen to Bonnie any longer and her “little bit longer” preaching? Fuck it

[RiceIntegraRS]

^just make sure the house party is massive and make sure it looks like an antimasker/vaxxer rally. Cops wont do anything if they see that

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1387471642197041153

[SSM_DC5]

Are they not checking residency to see if the 30+ people live in high-transmission areas? If not, why the fuck not?

Well good to know all the people going to get these vaccines are ones that have nothing better to do than wait all day in lines.

They'd be better suited to be given to customer facing people. Just give the malls or big box stores a call and tell them to send any willing employees at this certain date and time and give them the shots.

May be a rhetorical question since you already have the right idea in another of your posts
The one given out in hot spots is better suited to those living in the hotspot. For someone outside of the hot spot to travel far to go into the hot spot puts that person at unnecessary risk.

Unnecessary risk because....... Shoppers I mentioned before. Now doing 30+! 40 doses as of 230pm.

At time of this post, unknown number of doses remaining but less than 5 people in line.

So if people just wait an extra day or week, you will probably be able to get the vaccine locally.

[SSM_DC5]

3 hours paid leave to get the covid19 vaccine

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/employment-business/employment-standards-advice/employment-standards/time-off/taking-unexpected-time-off#covid

[spoon.ek9]

Didn't think it needed to be said but NO it's not a giant chunk of people simply not taking care of themselves that are being admitted to hospital. there has been a very large spike in covid positive cases. ICU staff are working at full capacity with staff so stressed out that they're losing their tempers over normally minor things because they simply do not have time to cater to delays of any sort.

You've all heard by now optional procedures are again being delayed to make room and free up staff for other areas. What you might not know is that covid wards are now also being expanded which includes temporarily segregating non-negative pressure rooms to house covid positive patients. To the best of my knowledge Facilities Maintenance is working on creating more negative pressure rooms but they can only work so fast (as we have established in the past).

I can tell you first hand that the number of staff I'm seeing in ICU is a lot more than normal. I can tell you first hand I have stood in the same room and talked to covid positive patients in emergency and then later see them intubated up in ICU. How many of you are willing to step into a room knowing for a fact that person has covid? Even if you're being paid because it's your job?

The best analogy I can think of is the fire department. Yes, we staff and equip them all year, every year in perpetuity. But we don't sit around and start fires expecting they'll be able to put them all out no problem. We also don't look at all the fires surrounding us and quip "yeah but i'm sure some of those were naturally occurring so whatever". Remember the Australian wildfires? How about the wildfires that have plagued our own province in the recent past?

There is a max we can handle and we are fast approaching it. Please get yourselves and your loved ones vaccinated. Thank you to everyone here who is helping the effort in this thread. It is greatly appreciated! At this point, every little bit helps towards attaining the normalcy we all crave.

[twitchyzero]

my relatively low-risk boomer parents not in a hotspot that waited few weeks for their age group booking both got pfizer

i predict all essential workers wanting AZ will get them very soon..it's literally day 1 of limited 30+, your workplace will also want you protected so they dont have to shut down for few weeks if a few of you become positive

so maybe talk to HR about getting groups taking turns having time off to go get the shot?

in a few weeks the government better be ready to start offering the 2nd doses...that's gonan be creeping up real fast

[blkgsr]

i got AZ at the coquitlam drop in yesterday

feel perfectly fine. MAAYBE a little more yawns today and MAYBE SLIGHTLY foggy vision but otherwise perfectly fine.

those were MAJOR maybe's.

well this changed throughout the day

definitely was feeling flue like symptoms by the end of the day. feeling a lot better this morning.

talking with some other people, they felt a lot worse the night of the injection and all throughout the day after

[sonick]

Got my AZ 5g upgrade last night at 10pm. No side effects yet will see when symptoms start popping up.

[eclipseman]

well this changed throughout the day

definitely was feeling flue like symptoms by the end of the day. feeling a lot better this morning.

talking with some other people, they felt a lot worse the night of the injection and all throughout the day after

I never updated this thread, but about 20-24 hours after the initial injection, I was severely fatigued and had an excruciating headache. It all passed in a few hours though.

[fliptuner]

-looks like that penthouse night club guy Mo is going to jail after all. Just one day of jail though :lawl:

Mo pleaded guilty.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/04/28/vancouver-man-who-police-say-ran-condo-nightclub-pleads-guilty-to-health-charges/

VANCOUVER — A Vancouver man arrested on allegations he was running a makeshift nightclub inside his penthouse has pleaded guilty to three charges, including failing to follow orders of a health officer.

Mohammad Movassaghi was sentenced today to one day in jail, a $5,000 fine and 18 months of probation after previously pleading guilty.

Judge Ellen Gordon noted his one-day jail sentence has already been served, but he'll also have to complete 50 hours of community service work.

Movassaghi pleaded guilty to two counts of failing to comply with an order of a health officer dating back to January and one count of disobeying a court order from a charge in March.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-man-who-police-say-ran-condo-nightclub-pleads-guilty-to-health-charges

Judge Ellen Gordon described the event as “a crime, not a party,” and something attended by people “foolish enough” to put their and their grandmothers’ health at risk.

“If someone who had been at your party was infected and died, as far as I’m concerned, you’re guilty of manslaughter. If someone who had been at your party was infected and passed it on to grandma, as far as I’m concerned, you’re guilty of manslaughter,” she told him.

“What you did, sir, is comparable to individuals who sell fentanyl to the individuals on the street who die every day. There’s no difference. You voluntarily assumed a risk that could kill people in the midst of a pandemic.”


It was mentioned in the news last night that if Crown had seeked a jail sentence, the judge would've handed it out. So why didn't they?

At least they seized all the cash and booze at the property. I wonder if the strata will do anything?

[Oscar_Binswood]

Didn't think it needed to be said but NO it's not a giant chunk of people simply not taking care of themselves that are being admitted to hospital. there has been a very large spike in covid positive cases. ICU staff are working at full capacity with staff so stressed out that they're losing their tempers over normally minor things because they simply do not have time to cater to delays of any sort.

You've all heard by now optional procedures are again being delayed to make room and free up staff for other areas. What you might not know is that covid wards are now also being expanded which includes temporarily segregating non-negative pressure rooms to house covid positive patients. To the best of my knowledge Facilities Maintenance is working on creating more negative pressure rooms but they can only work so fast (as we have established in the past).

I can tell you first hand that the number of staff I'm seeing in ICU is a lot more than normal. I can tell you first hand I have stood in the same room and talked to covid positive patients in emergency and then later see them intubated up in ICU. How many of you are willing to step into a room knowing for a fact that person has covid? Even if you're being paid because it's your job?

The best analogy I can think of is the fire department. Yes, we staff and equip them all year, every year in perpetuity. But we don't sit around and start fires expecting they'll be able to put them all out no problem. We also don't look at all the fires surrounding us and quip "yeah but i'm sure some of those were naturally occurring so whatever". Remember the Australian wildfires? How about the wildfires that have plagued our own province in the recent past?

There is a max we can handle and we are fast approaching it. Please get yourselves and your loved ones vaccinated. Thank you to everyone here who is helping the effort in this thread. It is greatly appreciated! At this point, every little bit helps towards attaining the normalcy we all crave.

My spouse is an RN in Fraser Health, and an interesting point she brought up was how they don't have beds in ICU for non-covid cases like a lady with a brain bleed because of the influx of serious covid cases already occupying the beds. Also heard they've either started or will be doubling up covid patients.

[fliptuner]

I registered a couple of weeks ago, got my code last week and went in for the Pfizer appointment yesterday. Didn't feel a thing. So much so, that I had to look and check there was actually a needle in my arm. Waited the 15 minutes, before leaving and went on with my day. A bit of a sore arm a few hours later and a mild headache, a few hours more. Other than feeling a bit lethargic throughout the evening, no other side effects. I hope nothing else creeps up and I can go on with my day.

Hopefully, the health dept gets better organized and communication improves, and vaccine supplies increase. It'd be nice to get my second dose closer to the recommended 4-6weeks, verses the 4 months they predicted.

[Hondaracer]

Govt. decides no more “pop up clinics”

This shit is such a joke ffs.. as said earlier in this thread, when the 8.0 earthquake comes you better be prepared to shoot somebody lol

[320icar]

the 8.0 earthquake comes you better be prepared to shoot somebody lol

Does pulling a Kurt cobain count?

[CRS]

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-man-who-police-say-ran-condo-nightclub-pleads-guilty-to-health-charges



It was mentioned in the news last night that if Crown had seeked a jail sentence, the judge would've handed it out. So why didn't they?

At least they seized all the cash and booze at the property. I wonder if the strata will do anything?

I would assume that since he pleaded guilty, it was part of the plea deal that was in place with the prosecution.

[Hondaracer]

https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/sudden-covid-death-of-46-year-old-father-at-home-leaves-family-devastated-3670229

i went to highschool with this guy (just, 5 years older than me)

if you're eligible, go get a shot. this could be any one of us. it's not some random 4 in a million statistic - it's a guy who grew up down the street from me. he literally missed the option to be vaccinated by 2-3? weeks. he might still be alive

if you end up in a hospital (or worse) a month from now, you'll sure wish that you hadn't waited for the "better vaccine" because of some stuff you read on the internet

this isn't an attack - i just think for some people, even after a year of this, it just isn't real enough.

So turns out after this guys family all had covid he ended up catching it and tried to “gut it out” at home to the point where he could barely breathe and insisted on staying home and not going to the hospital. The interview on the radio said he has to sleep sitting up for 2 nights in a row because his lungs were so full of fluid. The autopsy showed his lungs were basically full when he died.

Obviously a terribly sad story but I wouldn’t exactly call it a cautionary tale about getting covid.

[westopher]

Well I mean, covid killed him, so yeah, I'd still suggest against getting it if you have the option of preventing it with a vaccine. Even if you don't think the brand of it is that sweet.
Don't worry though, we both know you and I don't have to make that choice since we don't get to have vaccines.

[320icar]

coastal health grocery store staff 30+ AZ LETS GOOOO

https://vchcovid19vaccine.com/

[punkwax]

Govt. decides no more “pop up clinics”

This shit is such a joke ffs.. as said earlier in this thread, when the 8.0 earthquake comes you better be prepared to shoot somebody lol

It’s because we’re almost out of AZ...

[whitev70r]

So turns out after this guys family all had covid he ended up catching it and tried to “gut it out” at home to the point where he could barely breathe and insisted on staying home and not going to the hospital. The interview on the radio said he has to sleep sitting up for 2 nights in a row because his lungs were so full of fluid. The autopsy showed his lungs were basically full when he died.

Obviously a terribly sad story but I wouldn’t exactly call it a cautionary tale about getting covid.

Yah this, didn't want to speak ill of the dead but I wonder how the story would have turned out had he checked himself into the hospital or ER instead of trying the home healing method. Only cautionary thing about this story that I get is ... if you get Covid, don't try to be a super hero, go to the hospital if things get real bad.

[CRS]

It’s because we’re almost out of AZ...

Perfect timing for Pfizer to double up to 2 million doses delivered per week then.

[Hondaracer]

Happy for ya 320

[RiceIntegraRS]

Guildford rec center. AZ, 30+. Lineup is less than 30mins. Lineup is moving quickly. Closes at 8pm. Need to pre reg

[Hakkaboy]

London Drugs Ironwood in Richmond has a couple of slots open for Monday 5/3. Need to book online.

40+ AZ. Go go go

[TypeRNammer]

Vancouver coastal health grocery store staff 30+ AZ LETS GOOOO

https://vchcovid19vaccine.com/

That's awesome!

While bus drivers are still left in the dark....

[Hondaracer]

My fucking garbage “union” actually had the gall to tell people to message their MLA’s with a letter writing campaign to try and he included in the essential workers list instead of actually puting out a statement in the media etc.

Prior to being part of a union I had pre-conceived notions about them. However the one I’m in is so fucking pathetic it can’t even protect the cancers within the organization which I thought was what they did, so I guess I can’t be upset when they are completely absent in trying to protect the health and safety of their members.

I’m not saying we should be ahead of bus drivers etc. But a simple mention that people who have been “essential” and working in completely uncontrolled environments wouldn’t mind a shot would have been nice.

[N.V.M.]

got my Pfizer last night, no side effects. i was told to come back in 4 months? didn't the manufacturer originally say 1 month ~ ?

[Great68]

got my Pfizer last night, no side effects. i was told to come back in 4 months? didn't the manufacturer originally say 1 month ~ ?

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/03/17/why-one-covid-19-vaccine-dose-is-better-than-two.html

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMclde2101987

In a nutshell:

- The first dose alone gives excellent efficacy
- The benefits of getting more first doses out in the population more quickly greatly outweighs the potential complications (ie reduced effictiveness) of delaying the second doses.

It's a good call IMO, and Canada is not the only country doing this (UK did it first)

[Traum]

got my Pfizer last night, no side effects. i was told to come back in 4 months? didn't the manufacturer originally say 1 month ~ ?
If you don't mind me asking -- what age group are you in? Just want to see how far along the queue the province has come with the vaccination efforts.

With a lot more Pfizer doses coming starting in May as well as the introduction of the J&J vaccine, hopefully vaccination will happen a lot faster.

[Kilinim]

The organization or lack thereof with these pop ups is mind boggling. Leave it to FB and Twitter to let people know they can go for a vaccination. FFS.

[CRS]

If you don't mind me asking -- what age group are you in? Just want to see how far along the queue the province has come with the vaccination efforts.

With a lot more Pfizer doses coming starting in May as well as the introduction of the J&J vaccine, hopefully vaccination will happen a lot faster.

I remember reading that they're at 59 year olds as of yesterday or two days ago.

[whitev70r]

At 56 today fyi ... that's what my Dr said.

[N.V.M.]

If you don't mind me asking -- what age group are you in? Just want to see how far along the queue the province has come with the vaccination efforts.

With a lot more Pfizer doses coming starting in May as well as the introduction of the J&J vaccine, hopefully vaccination will happen a lot faster.

60

[RiceIntegraRS]

The organization or lack thereof with these pop ups is mind boggling. Leave it to FB and Twitter to let people know they can go for a vaccination. FFS.

Well its typical Vancouver. People want the vaccine but they dont want the AZ. And when people get an appointment for Pfizer, they dont show up. My wife just got her pfizer shot and she said there ZERO waiting. Nurses standing around doing nothing cause more than half of the people decided to pull a no show. Those popup clinics in surrey are happening because people are pulling no shows for the AZ vaccine and they will simply go to waste if they arent used. Instead of waiting for our leadership to tell us we should be jumping to the next phase earlier than expected, the clinics are just doing it without permission cause itll take forever. imo the people on the ground just know better than the higher ups. The guildford rec center listened to DBH about no popup clinics in the morning and they said therr facilty was completely empty thats why they decided to disregard her orders cause they just know vaccinating anyone is better than vaccinating no one.

48 hrs later i experienced a sore arm and alil fatigue after the AZ shot. My parents experienced zero side effects from pfizer. And my buddy experienced mild flu symptoms and body aches within 2 days from AZ

[fliptuner]

I remember reading that they're at 59 year olds as of yesterday or two days ago.

Odd. I'm in my early 40's and got my confirmation code last week.

[whitev70r]

^^ yah, I'm all for anyone can come when there are no shows and vaccines that have to be used for the day or expiry. Open the doors wide and first come first serve ...

There is a plan for orderly vaccination, then there are adaptive measures like the one described ... for when people pull no shows.

[CRS]

Odd. I'm in my early 40's and got my confirmation code last week.

When you say confirmation code, do you mean you were able to book?

Or that you were able to just register?

If it's the latter, then yeah, we all got our confirmation code after we registered. But if you got your booking, that would be a whole new development.

[yray]

So turns out after this guys family all had covid he ended up catching it and tried to “gut it out” at home to the point where he could barely breathe and insisted on staying home and not going to the hospital. The interview on the radio said he has to sleep sitting up for 2 nights in a row because his lungs were so full of fluid. The autopsy showed his lungs were basically full when he died.

Obviously a terribly sad story but I wouldn’t exactly call it a cautionary tale about getting covid.

With ARDS, you mind feels fine except your body is struggling to breath. I can see why most men would 'tough it out'. My dad went from talking normally to taking breaths every 3 words in 3 days. I went in to my parents home when the ambulance arrived and his fingers was already blue but he could still walk around.

Sitting straight up helps and is what is done at the hospital. Proning also helps too but sucks to be comfortable when someone is sick.

If your gut tells you that your loved one should be in the hospital, just call 911/811, don't ask him or her if they want to go... their mind could be a mess with the lack of oxygen.

[JD¹³]

Friends in the US mil have been receiving Pfizer or Moderna over the last few weeks. Numerous stories of racing heartbeats, anxiety, and insomnia. For most it went away after a few days but in one case someone at a friends unit has been pulled off duties for a heart arrhythmia. These are really healthy men in their late 20's to 30's with no prior issues, and it's not a huge number of people but it's enough to be raising eyebrows down there. It'll be interesting to see if anyone here in the same demographic notices the same once eligible to get their shot. Just thought I'd share as food for thought.

[Hakkaboy]

At 56 today fyi ... that's what my Dr said.

https://twitter.com/VCHhealthcare/status/1388202764002603016

[westopher]

With ARDS, you mind feels fine except your body is struggling to breath. I can see why most men would 'tough it out'. My dad went from talking normally to taking breaths every 3 words in 3 days. I went in to my parents home when the ambulance arrived and his fingers was already blue but he could still walk around.

Sitting straight up helps and is what is done at the hospital. Proning also helps too but sucks to be comfortable when someone is sick.

If your gut tells you that your loved one should be in the hospital, just call 911/811, don't ask him or her if they want to go... their mind could be a mess with the lack of oxygen.
I’m sure a lot of us on here can think of a time in our lives when we “toughed it out” when we shouldn’t have. When I had a TIA I sat in the office trying to “focus” my way back to feeling ok, when in reality I was having all the signs of a stroke. Numb on half my body, no vision on my right side (of either eye) and aphasia. It took me trying to explain what was happening to both my sous chefs before they demanded I go to the hospital because I wasn’t making any sense.
Another good friend I worked with went to the washroom and we found him having a seizure on the floor after a consistent “headache” that turned out to be a brain tumour.
It’s ingrained into young/middle aged men to tough it out, so it’s definitely a cautionary tale that many of us could find ourselves trying to rationalize that it’s no big deal.

[Hondaracer]

I’ve learned through experience that it’s never worth second guessing your health. Of course everyone has had those times where you feel a little funny or somthing doesn’t feel quite right and you shrug it off but I’ve been trying to be as proactive with my health as possible in terms of check ups, blood tests etc.

Both my wife’s parents died of Cancer basically due to the old European way of thinking that things will sort themselves out etc. And it’s just a hassle to go to the hospital and whatnot. They both might have lived if they had been proactive. My mother-in law only went to the hospital when the pain in her stomach was so bad she burnt her hand with boiling water and didn’t even notice because the other pain took precedence.

Same with my grandma, as she got older she dealt with a few infections, mainly bladder and these infections in older people can do all sorts of wild shit. She was seeing my dead grandpa, thought people were there when they weren’t etc.

It’s scary because if you’re in that position and there’s no one to tell you you’re acting strange how can you be sure anything is wrong? But I’d urge anyone to err on the side of caution and at the very least call the nurse line or use Babylon/walk in clinic to describe what you’re feeling as best as possible and don’t be shy about the details, it might save your life

[StylinRed]

Yep I guess I need to change how I am, I'm always shrugging things off for myself, but proactive with those around me

My mom's friend kept shrugging things off too awhile back, "just a flu" but I called an ambulance for him when his wife called and said she was really concerned, turns out his fever was his kidneys failing, they were able to save him some functionality but he still required dialysis weekly after that, they said if he waited any longer in getting to the hospital he may have died

Last year he did pass away, because he kept ignoring his vertigo when climbing his stairs at home (it had become his only source of exercise in his old age, and he didn't want to give it up) he ended up falling down them

[SkinnyPupp]

New policy here: All foreign domestic helpers must be vaccinated to renew their work visa. Also all unvaccinated FDH's must undergo mandatory covid testing by May 9.

[DavidNguyen]

I haven't been following this thread.

Anyone got/had Covid? Last week my co-worker tested positive. So my boss wanted me to get tested and I was Positve. Was kind of choked. Luckily my symptoms were mild runny nose, phlegm and diarrhea

5 more days till my Quarantine will be over

[SSM_DC5]

In regards to the discussion about going to get checked out and err on the side of caution. Imagine going for help and be turned away because no bed for you. That's what it's trending to due to the need to convert beds to treat covid patients. Exactly like Oscar mentioned below

My spouse is an RN in Fraser Health, and an interesting point she brought up was how they don't have beds in ICU for non-covid cases like a lady with a brain bleed because of the influx of serious covid cases already occupying the beds. Also heard they've either started or will be doubling up covid patients.



I haven't been following this thread.

Anyone got/had Covid? Last week my co-worker tested positive. So my boss wanted me to get tested and I was Positve. Was kind of choked. Luckily my symptoms were mild runny nose, phlegm and diarrhea

5 more days till my Quarantine will be over

No fatigue? Require more hours of sleep?
Need to wait 3 months before getting vaccinated now that you've been infected.

[DavidNguyen]

No fatigue? Require more hours of sleep?
Need to wait 3 months before getting vaccinated now that you've been infected.[/QUOTE]

No. Don't feel tired. Feel back to normal to normal now

Oh, howcome 3 month? Enlighten me

Thanks

[westopher]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's based more on supply vs. your risk. You now will have antibodies, so chance of reinfection is even lower than if you were vaccinated and had never been infected, therefore, the dose should be used for someone that could be infected, and as a result their infection could be severe.

[N.V.M.]

i'm just reading that only one dose of Pfizer leaves you vulnerable to the covid variations( this report was referring to the American variations.) so, you just can't feel too safe until you get that second shot.

[SSM_DC5]

No. Don't feel tired. Feel back to normal to normal now

Oh, howcome 3 month? Enlighten me

Thanks

Read it on vch site not long ago. Can't find it now. Maybe it's changed.

[SkinnyPupp]

Dad still can't get the vaccine, as they've only been giving them to people under 60 in China. Because they haven't studied over 60 (but all the countries using their vaccine are doing it). They're starting to offer it in certain cities though.

In his city, he says pretty much nobody wears a mask anywhere, except in hospitals and crowded places like theaters. WutFace

[GLOW]

Odd. I'm in my early 40's and got my confirmation code last week.

when i saw your original post i was like wtf what about me :lol

[quasi]

Odd. I'm in my early 40's and got my confirmation code last week.

Do you live in any of these areas? I believe they have priority because of the high infection rate in those spots. If not I don't know, but good for you.

East Newton
Fleetwood
North Delta
North Surrey
Panorama
Port Coquitlam
South Langley Township
West Abbotsford
West Newton
Whalley

[GLOW]

that would make more sense.

[Oscar_Binswood]

Well its typical Vancouver. People want the vaccine but they dont want the AZ. And when people get an appointment for Pfizer, they dont show up. My wife just got her pfizer shot and she said there ZERO waiting. Nurses standing around doing nothing cause more than half of the people decided to pull a no show. Those popup clinics in surrey are happening because people are pulling no shows for the AZ vaccine and they will simply go to waste if they arent used. Instead of waiting for our leadership to tell us we should be jumping to the next phase earlier than expected, the clinics are just doing it without permission cause itll take forever. imo the people on the ground just know better than the higher ups. The guildford rec center listened to DBH about no popup clinics in the morning and they said therr facilty was completely empty thats why they decided to disregard her orders cause they just know vaccinating anyone is better than vaccinating no one.

48 hrs later i experienced a sore arm and alil fatigue after the AZ shot. My parents experienced zero side effects from pfizer. And my buddy experienced mild flu symptoms and body aches within 2 days from AZ

I got my modern shot exactly two weeks ago at the Langley Events Centre, same situation. It was a nice hot, sunny Saturday, and I walked right in as a first responder drop in. Word got out and a bunch of us from work ended up getting it.

My spouse and mother in-law pick up shifts at the vaccination clinics and they're seeing the same thing. Some days they have 140 appointments, other days 1400 but there's always people who no show.

Amongst my co-workers and I, we're all in our mid to late 20's. Two weeks later no significant symptoms other than a sore arm for a couple of days.

[Traum]

i'm just reading that only one dose of Pfizer leaves you vulnerable to the covid variations( this report was referring to the American variations.) so, you just can't feel too safe until you get that second shot.
Take this to mean however you would interpret it, but even after 2 doses, the Pfizer vaccine isn't super effective against the S.African and UK variants either.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/04/11/the-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine-is-less-effective-against-the-south-african-and-uk-variants-than-against-the-original-virus-according-to-a-new-real-world-study-from-israel/?sh=3e1076a15888

the vaccine was eight times more protective against the wild type than the B1.351 variant. Similar studies showed that the vaccine is about 2.5 times more effective against the wild type than it is against the B 1.1.7 (UK) variant.

[fliptuner]

When you say confirmation code, do you mean you were able to book?

Or that you were able to just register?

If it's the latter, then yeah, we all got our confirmation code after we registered. But if you got your booking, that would be a whole new development.

Do you live in any of these areas? I believe they have priority because of the high infection rate in those spots. If not I don't know, but good for you.

East Newton
Fleetwood
North Delta
North Surrey
Panorama
Port Coquitlam
South Langley Township
West Abbotsford
West Newton
Whalley

Yes. I'm in Poco.

Registered Apr. 8
Allowed to book appt. Apr. 19

Could've got AstraZeneca the next day in Langley but opted for Pfizer in N.Van for Apr. 27 (soonest opening)

[DavidNguyen]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's based more on supply vs. your risk. You now will have antibodies, so chance of reinfection is even lower than if you were vaccinated and had never been infected, therefore, the dose should be used for someone that could be infected, and as a result their infection could be severe.

Ahh I see. I'm still gonna get the Vaccine. Better me than someone who WFH or someone who books an appointment and not show up.

[westopher]

Yeah as soon as your eligible get on that train. Glad to hear you weren’t too sick from it.

[320icar]

Anyone on here have tips for me tomorrow morning? Last time I got a shot a decade ago I PTFO, as well as a bunch of times before that.

Don’t look? Just breathe deep and slow? Lay down?

[hud 91gt]

Don’t look. Maybe explain to them how to get full infusion with carbon fibre while not making the part brittle.


I can’t look at shots. Fuck that. Look away and it’s done before you know it. I can handle lots, but not needles. Hahah.

[westopher]

Just don’t rush to get up. Pass out in a chair? No worries. Pass out walking out? No bueno.

[SkinnyPupp]

Anyone on here have tips for me tomorrow morning? Last time I got a shot a decade ago I PTFO, as well as a bunch of times before that.

Don’t look? Just breathe deep and slow? Lay down?
Make sure they know of your issues beforehand, because they'll be scrutinizing every adverse effect quite a bit and you don't want to end up in the hospital for no good reason.

[RiceIntegraRS]

You are sitting in a chair and you're not supposed to get up till after 15mins anyways. Depending on how long the wait is, make sure u just ate something beforehand. Maybe have a bottle of water with u. They come up to u, ask for ur carecard and paper u filled out, ask to roll up ur sleeze if u havent already done so, clean and jab. Out of all the needles ive had, this is probably the only one i didnt even feel. Maybe watch something on ur phone to keep urself pre-occupied when they do it

[CRS]

Anyone on here have tips for me tomorrow morning? Last time I got a shot a decade ago I PTFO, as well as a bunch of times before that.

Don’t look? Just breathe deep and slow? Lay down?

Don't look. Ask them to count down for you.

While they are counting down, make sure to breath. Time it so that you are beginning/mid intake from breathing.

This also prevents you from screaming.

[320icar]

Got it done! I was more nervous than when I was getting married lol. Requested to lay down just in case, but it was 99% painless. Definitely the most gentle shot I’ve received. And no passing out!

Will update you later when I’m a shivering blubbering mess lol

[fliptuner]

I felt her pinch my arm, more than I felt the needle. So much so, I had to check there was a needle in there. I haven't got a shot since I was a kid. My anxiety the night before was totally unwarranted.

Sat in the waiting area for 15 minutes after and was fine to work after. A bit of a headache later that evening and maybe a bit lethargic for a couple days but nothing that couldn't be overcome with Tylenol and some extra coffee.

I did get a bit of a side effect, that isn't usually mentioned - a minor case of hives the next day. Just from the crook of my arm, to the top of my hands. They were itchy, so I put some cream on them and wore long sleeves for a couple of days. All good now.

[GLOW]

give it a week before you start hearing the voices of the hive mind :troll:

[Mikoyan]

give it a week before you start hearing the voices of the hive mind :troll:

Gotta love it when the 5G kicks in.

[spoon.ek9]

watching yourself get a vaccine is nothing. watching blood be drawn from you is another animal lol. but hey! no judgment here. glad everyone has their own way of coping with the fear.

a classmate of mine actually had no idea we would be using needles in pharmacy. her phobia was so bad that she was even afraid of mechanical pencils. good news is she passed the course despite her fears (as well as poking herself once in class :lol)

[StylinRed]

a classmate of mine actually had no idea we would be using needles in pharmacy. her phobia was so bad that she was even afraid of mechanical pencils. good news is she passed the course despite her fears (as well as poking herself once in class :lol)

I had a friend like that in elementary school, she even peed herself when I pretended to stab myself with the mechanical pencil lead :lol

Her name isn't Lisa is it? :lol

[CRS]

Guilford rec has additional AZ shots for 30+. No line as of posting. Closing at 8. Have to register by 7:45pm.

[spoon.ek9]

I had a friend like that in elementary school, she even peed herself when I pretended to stab myself with the mechanical pencil lead :lol

Her name isn't Lisa is it? :lol

nope lol

[fliptuner]

I've had several vials of blood drawn, for tests. Getting the vaccine shot is nothing.

[AzNightmare]

Getting shots is like some legit phobia for some people.

A couple months back I was in the waiting room waiting to get my blood withdrawn next. This woman behind the curtains taking her shot was all chilled at first, prep talking herself. Then after the first vial, she just started to break down saying "I can't, I can't" while the nurse was trying to console her.

She legit started crying and sobbing and the nurse finally suggested she could stop now and continue another time.

It was pretty uncomfortable that I was just on the other side of the curtain and could overhear everything.

[fliptuner]

It was pretty uncomfortable that I was just on the other side of the curtain and could overhear everything.

https://i.imgur.com/b9RSXSc.jpg

[320icar]

When I was a child I had a lot of cavities. Got to the point where every visit was guaranteed 2 or 3. Absolutely traumatizing and my most hated part was the freezing. The needles hurt so bad especially near the front teeth, you could feel that thing deep up into your nostril.

Got to the point where -as a child- I would get cavities filled with zero freezing. I don’t know how the fuck I was strong enough to do that. Low blood pressure and massive stress/adrenaline spike would cause me to PTFO with a needle.

Last one I got was over a decade ago at 18? Can’t remember what it was for. I was super calm, talking to the nurse the whole time. The second it touched my arm I told her “I’m going to pass out”. She didn’t believe me until I was unresponsive for over a minute and ambulance was on it’s way lol.

So I don’t like needles but I am a big boy now. Figured just to be cautious I’ll ask to lay down and receive the shot. So far feeling great. Bummer cuz I was totally planning to call in sick tomorrow =_=

[Mr.Money]

they use a micro needle now a days, at lease when i got my shot, so no bandages is needed.


first time in my life getting it..was weird af.

[Traum]

When I was a child I had a lot of cavities. Got to the point where every visit was guaranteed 2 or 3. Absolutely traumatizing and my most hated part was the freezing. The needles hurt so bad especially near the front teeth, you could feel that thing deep up into your nostril.

Those dental freezing needles are seriously worse than vaccine shots or even drawing blood. I don't know why that is the case, but that's how I see it LOL~

[immorality]

Bummer cuz I was totally planning to call in sick tomorrow =_=

You might want to still call in, I had zero energy the next day.

[EvoFire]

Those dental freezing needles are seriously worse than vaccine shots or even drawing blood. I don't know why that is the case, but that's how I see it LOL~

Have you seen those things they use for freezing? it's like giving you a shot with a god damn straw.

[StylinRed]

There has been 1700+ cases of ppl getting covid after being vaccinated? That's interesting, was Henry speaking ab Canada or BC?

[underscore]

watching yourself get a vaccine is nothing. watching blood be drawn from you is another animal lol.

At least if you watch you know how much they're taking. Last time I had blood taken I didn't realize the clicking I was hearing was the nurse swapping out the vials, I thought it was just a volume indicator on the thing. I felt fine, stood up and nearly ate shit immediately. It was then that I looked over and saw the pile of vials sitting there lol.

[westopher]

There has been 1700+ cases of ppl getting covid after being vaccinated? That's interesting, was Henry speaking ab Canada or BC?

Everyone’s first doses for the most part so that leaves efficacy at like 65%. It’s not surprising, especially as people will let their guard down. That said the protection against serious illness is high, and that’s what matters. Covid isn’t going away, like ever, so if people die less it’s all we can hope for.

[Gumby]

No blood donors here? That needle is like a straw... and they only draw a few vials of blood for tests, whereas for donation they draw a small bag!

I think the needle they use for freezing at the dentist seems scary because it’s used on the inside of your mouth, which is a pretty sensitive area.

[SkinnyPupp]

The needles hurt so bad especially near the front teeth, you could feel that thing deep up into your nostril.

Oh god I could practically feel that feeling as I read this sentence WutFace

I've been injecting myself twice a week for the last 3 or 4 years so it's nothing to me. First one was a bit weird though.

One time I was donating blood, and my arm cramped up so hard that the nurse had to straighten it out for me, she could barely do it lol. I think it's because I just went there straight from the gym.

[Mikoyan]

Getting shots is like some legit phobia for some people.

A couple months back I was in the waiting room waiting to get my blood withdrawn next. This woman behind the curtains taking her shot was all chilled at first, prep talking herself. Then after the first vial, she just started to break down saying "I can't, I can't" while the nurse was trying to console her.

She legit started crying and sobbing and the nurse finally suggested she could stop now and continue another time.

It was pretty uncomfortable that I was just on the other side of the curtain and could overhear everything.

A few years back when my wife was pregnant, she had like a panic attack/heart arrhythmia scare one night. We were in the VGH ER, and they had us sitting inside one of the treatment bays. The next bay only had a curtain separating us.

A few mins in they prep and set up the bay beside us. If you ever watched ER, House or any other med show, what happened next was the 15 mins they receive and treat an unresponsive OD patient straight off the ambulance. And the wife and I are sitting 1m away behind the curtain.
It was super interesting for me, as I used to volunteer in the first responder space, but spent the time trying to keep my wife calm.

[6793026]

donating blood with that 4,500 to 5,700 milliliters of blood... now that needle is thick (16 to 17 gauge)

22-25 gauge is the vaccine needle... (bigger the number, the "smaller" the needle)

[320icar]

I've been injecting myself twice a week for the last 3 or 4 years so it's nothing to me. First one was a bit weird though.
.

Celltech?

[Obsideon]

lol reading this has brought back some horrible memories for me.
Back when I was young .... getting my wisdom teeth extracted. I asked to be put to sleep but the clinic said they don't have that service. So I had to endure 3-4 hours of watching them drill, hammer and pry them out. The dude was using the side of my lips for leverage, and kept rubbing vaseline all over my face! One time his tool slipped and my blood sprayed all over his mask and googles!

He's like "I'm gonna shoot you up with anesthetic and then start working, if you feel the pain coming back just make a sound and I'll shoot you again"... in total I think I took 16-18 needles in the mouth, fucking brutal.

Reflecting back the dentist was a hack! My mom recommended him cuz he was "cheaper" ... fuck what a mistake.

[CRS]

Fuck all of you guys with your dentist stories. I'm seeing my dentist this Wednesday for a check up.

I don't need to dig up past traumas before I go.

[iwantaskyline]

lol reading this has brought back some horrible memories for me.
Back when I was young .... getting my wisdom teeth extracted. I asked to be put to sleep but the clinic said they don't have that service. So I had to endure 3-4 hours of watching them drill, hammer and pry them out. The dude was using the side of my lips for leverage, and kept rubbing vaseline all over my face! One time his tool slipped and my blood sprayed all over his mask and googles!

He's like "I'm gonna shoot you up with anesthetic and then start working, if you feel the pain coming back just make a sound and I'll shoot you again"... in total I think I took 16-18 needles in the mouth, fucking brutal.

Reflecting back the dentist was a hack! My mom recommended him cuz he was "cheaper" ... fuck what a mistake.

Jesus. Shit like this is why I still have my wisdom teeth. Everytime I visit the dentist they tell me to get them removed lol. I don't have any issues with them but they keep telling me to get them removed for the past decade...

Back on covid topic...

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/02/reaching-herd-immunity-unlikely-in-us

Experts believe herd immunity unlikely to happen in America, not enough vaccinations.

[The Producer]

Jesus. Shit like this is why I still have my wisdom teeth. Everytime I visit the dentist they tell me to get them removed lol. I don't have any issues with them but they keep telling me to get them removed for the past decade...



this is super off topic, but don't fuk around w your wisdom teeth

everybody on this page is me, fear of dentists, fear of needles. I did 7 years of orthodontics, including multiple extractions. I'll never forget them making me hold a paddle that I realized later grounded the cauterizing tool. Add in self employed and no insurance, and I kept telling my now dentist (who I visit regularly) that i didn't want the teeth out. finally my guy retired, and the new guy told me it was time to stop stalling.

lights out general, 40 minutes under, about 3 days of suffering, never needed the happy pills. about 4 grand when the dust settled.

no more pressure, and my persistent headaches went away. if you're on the fence, do it. If you need a referral, PM me.

[iwantaskyline]

this is super off topic, but don't fuk around w your wisdom teeth

Well for me they've been telling me my wisdom teeth will cause me problems since I was 19...It's been a decade now and still no problems.

From my own research, getting your wisdom teeth out for preventative measures is mostly a North American thing. People in other countries only get them extracted if they cause problems.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Jesus. Shit like this is why I still have my wisdom teeth. Everytime I visit the dentist they tell me to get them removed lol. I don't have any issues with them but they keep telling me to get them removed for the past decade...

Back on covid topic...

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/02/reaching-herd-immunity-unlikely-in-us

Experts believe herd immunity unlikely to happen in America, not enough vaccinations.
My dentist strongly recommended I get my wisdom teeth removed. I went for the consoltation, watched a scary-ass info video, and decided I could wait. That was 12 yrs ago. I wasn't having issues at the time and still don't. Not long after that visit, the doctor was suspended and fined for leaving a patient with severe brain damage. I know that isn't the industry standard, but it was enough to remind me to be cautious.

[Teriyaki]

Fuck all of you guys with your dentist stories. I'm seeing my dentist this Wednesday for a check up.

I don't need to dig up past traumas before I go.

Y'all want a dentist story? I got one. Buckle up.

Back story, I got bad teeth not by birth but because my parents were cheap, next level asian cheap and never brought me to a dentist as a kid.
Well, years later and I'm in my 20's and already need a damned root canal on a molar. Now, I never liked my dentist, but been seeing them because again... Asian family network or whatever. He always seems too arrogant, doesn't explain the process of what they're doing or really give you options, but hey professionals know what they're doing and not there to give great customer service right? so whatever.

Move to operating chair for the root canal, and I start getting hit with the freezing needles talk, give it a few minutes etc. For whatever reason or other I never freeze well, I need an unusual amount to get fully numb. I have to remind my dentist basically every time even for filling cavities because, well he's not great. You can sense where this is going.

Coming back to the root canal, they explain they're going to do the freezing and I once again remind that I need more than the usual amount. They assure they've done the necessary amount and I won't feel anything. THIS WAS 100% INCORRECT. They drill a hole into the tooth, as you do for root canals... and halfway through the procedure with a gaping hole exposing all my nerves of my molar and what felt like a million tiny acupuncture needles jammed inside, my sense of pain started shooting back real fast and there was nothing I could do about it. I got like 4 hands prying my mouth open, with really sharp things attached to an open tooth, I couldn't do shit. My body was starting to have micro-contractions everywhere, I was trying to fight the pain, sweat was bubbling up and in like seconds I went from dry to dripping like a faucet on my forehead.

I tried to make some noise, or some kind of signal to let them know something was FUCKING NOT RIGHT with the anesthetic but I swear they weren't paying attention to me at all because something was going wrong with the procedure at the same time. Something something about finding a 3rd giant nerve that wasn't on the x-ray I could hear. I'm freaking out internally, all the while I could FEEL MORE of each and every poke and prod, and the drilling straight into my nerves trying to kill it. You want terrorist interrogation techniques? Cut open their tooth and start pinching their nerves. What felt like an eternity but maybe was like a few minutes, they finally notice that I'm sweating profusely (probably not normal eh) and start dabbing me down with tissue after tissue, probably emptied the whole box. They ask if I can FEEL with some concerned faces. I'm like, YA THINK. They scramble to shoot another shot, or two, or three of anesthetic? They decide to end the procedure halfway and write me a prescription for some T3's and sends me on my way saying come back in a few days to finish. I'm pretty pissed and disoriented at this point, and just want out so I leave for the pharmacy.

About 30 minutes later, I'm in the parking lot of Costco heading to the pharmacy to get my painkillers. About halfway walking through the parking lot, the rest of the anesthetic wears off and I felt like Thor himself punched the side of my face, then took some needle tipped pliers to apply pressure to an open wound. I don't know how, I swear I was crawling on the ground at some point but I got to the pharmacy desk to get my prescription. I sat or limped there for what felt like an eternity, got my T3's and immediately downed what was the "theoretical maximum limit" of pills one should take daily (like 10 or something?). I drove my ass home, crawled into bed and passed out for maybe an hour or two. Woke up again with shooting pain from my tooth, I got my damn dentists office on the phone. Demanded to speak with him directly, and no I wasn't going to be called back later. Told em off with the shit I just went through, I'm going to need this shit fixed like now, and that I wasn't going to set foot back on his chair again because he is incompetent for my situation. Get a call first thing the next morning from a dental surgeon, saying they'll see me immediately, and that the dentist will be fully covering the cost of the "friendly referral".

Alright, that's my dentist story. Where were we again? Shots? Yea, I used to get a little tense getting them. All good now. Hows the Covid one, kinda like a quick flu shot right?

@Obsidien. Your old hackjob dentist sounds like my old dentist, what would the odds of that be LOL.

[Mikoyan]

^
Shit. That was bad.

What's up with shitty cheap Asian dentists?
When I was 12 they needed to extract one of my baby teeth due to crowding. I was calm through the numbing shots until I spotted the extraction tool... A pair of slip joint pliers. Dad was a mechanic, so I can tell that that did not belong there. Also, they looked exactly like the pliers the Asian hardware/dollar store next door to the office sold.

I freak out, knocking things over, trying to get out, can't speak properly as my face is all numb. Mom doesn't listen, because, Asian parents right? I get held down and tooth gets extracted.

It wasn't til later at home when I was about to get the feather duster treatment for "acting up" at the dentist that I manage to sob out what was going on.

We changed dentists pretty soon after that.

On topic: vaccine mixed messaging.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadians-should-wait-for-pfizer-or-moderna-vaccine-if-they-can-federal-advisory-committee-says
Canadians should wait for Pfizer or Moderna vaccine if they can, federal advisory committee says
However, 'In most places where the outbreak is ongoing in Canada, it would make sense to get the first vaccine possible,' one infectious disease expert counters.

[320icar]

Couldn’t even get past the “I never froze well” sentence as that was my same issue. Literally felt a cold chill down my spine.

Corona doesn’t sound all that bad now. Especially not the vaccine hahahah

[GS8]

Jesus. Shit like this is why I still have my wisdom teeth. Everytime I visit the dentist they tell me to get them removed lol. I don't have any issues with them but they keep telling me to get them removed for the past decade...


Ideally you would want to remove them when you're young (around 19). That's because the roots are shorter and softer. I think anytime after 24 and the roots become longer and sturdier. Routine panoramic xray would be beneficial in monitoring the teeth. My dentist said to only remove mine if they start bothering me. Everyone is different.

I grew up poor and dental care was a luxury and I have genetically bad teeth. Luckily all my teeth procedures have been good. Had two root canals / crowns last year. Good solid team performing the jobs. Of course I was out $4800.

:okay:

Ask anyone in their 50s to 70s and they'll tell you what dentists were like back in the day. From the stories, you'd think they were mad scientists using children's teeth to splice genes and create a new army to overthrow the uprising serf class. I'm glad dental technology has come as far as it did.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I'm lucky I have an older brother. He had his wisdom teeth removed in his early 20s, so I had all four of mine removed when I was 16. I can't remember if my orthodontist played a part in recommending me doing it earlier too.

I still remember that pressure from them yanking the tooth and the saw they used to break the tooth into chunks.

[AzNightmare]

Surprisingly, it wasn't so bad for me when I got my wisdom teeth removed. I got all 4 removed at one go and they just froze my mouth. I definitely remembered the pressure though. Kind of scary but you feel nothing, which made it really weird.

I just remembered going back home and my mouth was still all numb with gauze and I tried to kill time by watching a movie and didn't realize I was drooling spit and blood down my shirt cause my lips and chin literally had no feeling for a good couple hours.

[hud 91gt]

Haha when I got my wisdom teeth removed all was good until the Anesthetics wore off as I remember running down the hall uncontrollably (I was a teenager at this point). Eventually got the T3’s in me.

They said don’t lay down for a certain period of time (don’t remember how long), but in the evening I was in bed getting the full nurse treatment from my mom. Bunch of pillows, TV remote in hand, probably a bowl of ice cream. Cat on my lap. Life’s good. End up falling asleep and my head tilts sideways. Wake up in a pool of blood lol! I’ve had nose bleeds my entire life, no stranger to blood in the bed. But this was bad.

Go to the ER room, they can’t do anything. Somehow get a hold of my dental surgeon and they get me in at 3:30 in the morning to fix me up. Those guys must have some shitty hours, as this stuff seems pretty common. Haha.

[CRS]

This thread took a weird turn from COVID to needles to dentists.

[hud 91gt]

I think this thread started with a dental convention. Full circle.

[StylinRed]

So is anyone not afraid of needles or dentists, raise your hands

*raises hand*