[Hondaracer]

That’s cute. Not like they had 6-7 months to prepare.

Know who else is exhausted with this shit? Every other essential worker who has had to find ways to adapt on the fly since day 1.

If teachers don’t think there is proper PPE etc. In place, eventually you have to take matters into your own hands. I get they are part of this whiney ever-complaining union. However if you want to protect yourself and feel that it isn’t adequate, do somthing about it.

[Ch28]

That’s cute. Not like they had 6-7 months to prepare.

Know who else is exhausted with this shit? Every other essential worker who has had to find ways to adapt on the fly since day 1.

If teachers don’t think there is proper PPE etc. In place, eventually you have to take matters into your own hands. I get they are part of this whiney ever-complaining union. However if you want to protect yourself and feel that it isn’t adequate, do somthing about it.

I'm sure every person that's working a public-facing job is running into the same issues. The biggest difference between them and everyone else is that their union is always running to the media to bitch and whine about everything.

[Hondaracer]

Notice how you haven’t heard from the nurses union once during covid?

[welfare]

...

[westopher]

Notice how you haven’t heard from the nurses union once during covid?

There’s a couple things about it.
From my wife’s experience, the nurses union is great at getting things done. She pays in an absolute shitload, but she says it’s so well worth it. They are very effective at tabling solutions with their complaints, which is really the best way to get things done. From being an outsider on the teachers unions it doesn’t always appear the same. They are always in the media.

To be fair though, nurses go to school for exactly this. They study virus transmission, medicine, PPE and have a vast understanding of this situation. Teachers don’t. They really have no clue how to deal with this situation and rightfully so are much more scared of it. That said, my friends that teach have not said the things the teachers union has when I’ve spoken to them about this. My best friend is a teacher and he has spoken about how much time and effort they have put into explaining protocols and he also understands this is a moving target. Things will change and they will have to adapt as it’s a new situation. No one has this magic answer. The media loves to stir up teacher union controversy.

[Manic!]

Hell no.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-canada-trump/trump-says-u-s-canada-border-will-open-by-end-of-year-hours-after-restriction-extension-idUSKBN26932F?il=0

Hours after U.S.-Canada border closure extended to Oct. 21, Trump says it 'opening pretty soon'

[320icar]

Absolutely fucking not

[Gumby]

Regarding the border, I saw on the news tonight Trump said (and I quote) “Canada would like it open”.

[Teriyaki]

Technically true. We WOULD like to open the borders so we can trade, travel, get cheap gas***

***On the condition that they get their shit together 120%

Just, you know omitted most of the message and all of the fine print

[Great68]

I kind of feel like as a Canadian you don't get to sing the praises of our better social systems to the USA and the go and funnel money into their economy in your desire to get cheap goods at the same time.

[StylinRed]

Ive got to admit there've been a lot of purchases I've made recently that would've been a helluva lot cheaper if I ordered from the states and shipped to pt Roberts

I would get them a lot quicker too, eta is another month for some items whereas I could get the items monday if the border were open

But I don't mind, considering what open borders would mean

[Obsideon]

Ive got to admit there've been a lot of purchases I've made recently that would've been a helluva lot cheaper if I ordered from the states and shipped to pt Roberts

I would get them a lot quicker too, eta is another month for some items whereas I could get the items monday if the border were open

But I don't mind, considering what open borders would mean

Yeah, a minor inconvenience in the grand scope of opening the flood gates for Washington, California, New York and Florida to start flying thousands of people here. :heckno:
Our downtown store relies heavily on tourists and the cruise season was a complete wash too ... but I guess rather that than a full on explosion of COVID...

[twitchyzero]

gotta say i feel bad for the pt roberts residents
economy drying up, trapped despite zero covid cases
they're JUST starting to get free weekly boat rides back to the mainland
ottawa should really consider exception for these isolated communities like Hyder Alaska that relies heavily on us

[68style]

Trust me, nobody working for the government in Ottawa knows anything geographically about anything west of Ottawa

Even if they moved from here to there, their memory is instantly blocked somehow lol

[MG1]

.........self isolate, I must.

[MG1]

.....same

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1307487069791563780

[westopher]

A lot of people seem to be banking on a vaccine while ignoring that we don't have vaccines for every fucking illness on the planet. Like, we are 40 years into HIV/AIDS and don't have a vaccine.

[SkinnyPupp]

Exactly, and the kind they are developing, we have never used on humans before

[Hehe]

A lot of people seem to be banking on a vaccine while ignoring that we don't have vaccines for every fucking illness on the planet. Like, we are 40 years into HIV/AIDS and don't have a vaccine.

This is why I have long advocated about a comprehensive track and tracing.

A safe massive scale vaccine could be years away. The supposed vaccine from both China and Russia have tested less than a thousand people, and that's "according" to what they said. God knows how many they actually tested and how many of those develop things that weren't supposed to happen.

Having PPE is also NOT a long term solution. It's a disease so powerful at spreading that it only takes a few small oversights to get one and every person he/she encounters with infected.

Taiwan is arguably the ONLY advance economy that had successful suppressed the virus with no resurgence. We are talking full scale economic activities with no major change in them (a retail location hosting a restaurant that were originally designed to have 120ppl in there paid its rents accordingly. You drop it to 30 because of social distancing, that restaurant goes bankrupt) and having tens of cases for the last couple of months.

Taiwan's success is still not complete. It's working on proposals to allow foreign visitors to come in just like before. But the base is still the same, precaution+track and tracing.

The sooner our gov't realize that we need to start making long term preparations, the better. They are avoiding like a taboo. I get it... we have a liberal party in power and god are they incompetent. But as SARS and Covid showed us, these kind of pandemic can come back at any time. Developing a system in place that you can start using it at any given moment to control a pandemic is not a waste of resources.

Out of those hundred of billions of debt we took on to combat the Covid... if even a percent or two can be spared to this, we'd have made so much progress already.

Instead what do we have? Daily new figures that doesn't show a slowdown any time soon and public is worry that any day we can go back to full lockdown.

Fucking pathetic.

[Hehe]

.........self isolate, I must.

What happened grandpa? Told you to not get too close to those college chicks. :fuckthatshit:

[Alpine]

A virus so harmful you need to take a test to confirm if you have it, and a vaccine so beneficial some want to force you to take it.

[Xu.Vi]

A virus so harmful you need to take a test to confirm if you have it, and a vaccine so beneficial some want to force you to take it.

You take a test so you know to stay the fuck home, and you take that vaccine so you don't need to stay the fuck home

[6793026]

People think a vaccine is the end all. F that....if COVID19 mutates, we are still at risk.

Vaguely read people can be reaffected even if they were healed from COVID (was it HK?). Again, no major reports on this of course.

[welfare]

You take a test so you know to stay the fuck home, and you take that vaccine so you don't need to stay the fuck home

Not necessarily. Without cycling threshold (Google this) values included in a PCR test, a positive result only tells you part of the story.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans quarantined likely unnecessarily due to positive results with far too high CT count.
Not all positive results should be considered equal. Not all positive results indicate a contagious sample.

[Hondaracer]

https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1307487069791563780

Take it for what it’s worth but on BNN they were discussing these results and they seemed to think the people experiencing some of this inflammation of the spine had undiagnosed MS?

Not sure who the experts were etc. But that was the talk when this trial was halted

[SkinnyPupp]

Take it for what it’s worth but on BNN they were discussing these results and they seemed to think the people experiencing some of this inflammation of the spine had undiagnosed MS?

Not sure who the experts were etc. But that was the talk when this trial was halted
There's no way of knowing at this time, we have to wait and see (it's the waiting that sucks)

[Xu.Vi]

Not necessarily. Without cycling threshold (Google this) values included in a PCR test, a positive result only tells you part of the story.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans quarantined likely unnecessarily due to positive results with far too high CT count.
Not all positive results should be considered equal. Not all positive results indicate a contagious sample.

Thanks for this, I didn't know anything about cycling threshold. What i'm understanding is that Ct values will give an estimated viral load, and the lower the number...the higher the likelihood of one transmitting. But there is no evidence stating that higher numbers = definitely not infectious, but "unlikely".

I agree, Not all positive results should be considered infectious but it's this uncertainty that the professionals don't want to play with. 33 is a very low viral load, but what's being looked at is the reliability of correlating this with how infectious one is. Research is ongoing so i'm very hopeful there'll be more clarity with Ct values.

[Bouncing Bettys]

That didn't take long. Received a school-wide notice today that someone at my son's school in Abby(wouldn't say if it was staff or student) has covid and was present a recently as Thursday. The school is contact tracing and notifying possible exposed students/staff directly.

[quasi]

That didn't take long. Received a school-wide notice today that someone at my son's school in Abby(wouldn't say if it was staff or student) has covid and was present a recently as Thursday. The school is contact tracing and notifying possible exposed students/staff directly.

Yeah we had that last week at my sons high school. I think it's going to be the norm and unless things really start spiraling they won't scale anything back, just keep dealing with it best they can.

[TOPEC]

That didn't take long. Received a school-wide notice today that someone at my son's school in Abby(wouldn't say if it was staff or student) has covid and was present a recently as Thursday. The school is contact tracing and notifying possible exposed students/staff directly.

just drove by an elementary school today in south richmond, i think it was during lunch or recess, i barely saw kids wearing masks which is a big wtf. i even saw a group of kids sitting in a circle with an adult, which i assume is their teacher, and was not wearing a mask as well...

[hud 91gt]

My niece isn’t required to wear a mask (I think kindergarten?). They are too young to bother even trying.

[Hondaracer]

https://i.imgur.com/QVuu7gI.jpg

[twitchyzero]

https://bemorepanda.com/files/2020-08-12/images/267927.jpeg

[Digitalis]

Calling all idiots that think I give a sh!t what your fails mean.
This post FAILED by:
320icar, CRS, EvoFire, haha13, inv4zn, Jmac, MG1, Mining, Obsideon, Presto, RiceIntegraRS, SkinnyPupp, spoon.ek9, twitchyzero, underscore

https://globalnews.ca/news/7348060/coronavirus-cdc-airborne-transmission/
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/u-s-cdc-takes-down-warning-that-covid-19-spreads-through-airborne-particles
https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-deletes-guidance-coronavirus-airborne

Main stream media for all you followers.
Months late everytime. Enjoy.


Also, not so much the virus itself that you're trying to block 100%. Consider the aerosols that are floating in the air after a sneeze, cough, etc that the virus attaches itself to. These particles are much larger now, and very easily blocked (albeit not 100%) by a mask. Once again, not 100% effective, but any percentage less intake of particulate matter or virus droplets is better than inhaling the whole damn thing no?

[westopher]

What does that have to do with your comments about masks and vaccines?

[Teriyaki]

Calling all idiots that think I give a sh!t what your fails mean.
This post FAILED by:
320icar, CRS, EvoFire, haha13, inv4zn, Jmac, MG1, Mining, Obsideon, Presto, RiceIntegraRS, SkinnyPupp, spoon.ek9, twitchyzero, underscore

https://globalnews.ca/news/7348060/coronavirus-cdc-airborne-transmission/
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/u-s-cdc-takes-down-warning-that-covid-19-spreads-through-airborne-particles
https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-deletes-guidance-coronavirus-airborne

Main stream media for all you followers.
Months late everytime. Enjoy.

For the sake of educating myself I clicked into the link to see if my current paradigm of thinking needed to be changed. And here is what we get:

"Presently, the agency’s guidance says the virus mainly spreads from person-to-person through respiratory droplets, which can land in the mouth or nose of people nearby. (https://bit.ly/2EknVZc)"

I'm curious to know your perspective and how the articles cited helped to land to the conclusion that disproves what myself and many others have been saying. I don't currently see it??

I think the mic drop was a little premature there. Let's pick that back up eh

[pastarocket]

-really pissed at senior management at my workplace for encouraging staff to go to the office to work in the middle of a pandemic!

Westopher, I wanna hear your feedback about this work situation that my colleagues and I will face in the near future. You're a smart and insightful man based on your posts that I see on RS and the numerous "thanks" that you get from members for your posts.

Long story short, a senior manager in my workplace (government office) sent out an all staff email yesterday asking staff to wait for an email from their supervisors. Senior managers wants all employees to come to the office to take away all personal belongings from their desks by a certain date. Why?

Some moron in upper management thinks that it is a good idea for staff to come to work in the office and sit in any desk that he or she wants to. As of this year, work stations/desks are shared among all employees.

In fact, management created a "coordinator" job so that one dude can coordinate the set up of office signage in elevators, hallways, lunchroom etc. about social distancing.

I am so pissed right now because idiots in senior management are putting the health of employees in the midst of this Covid pandemic at risk in order to get more employees to work in the office. Rationale? They think that more employees working in the office, despite supervisors working from home, means more employee productivity compared to working from home.

Are they serious??? :mad: Someone thinks I play video games, watch TV all day while working from home? :mad:


The risk of Covid transmission just went up much higher with staff sharing desks. I need to take my headset away, and other belongings because there is no way I am sharing a headset with another employee during this pandemic!

I already use tonnes of wetwipes to wipe my desk, photocopier, and other office equipmentdown.

My union reps will push back hard at management if managers ask a number of employees that is deemed "too high" for the office. I don't know the number of employees in the office that would make union reps contact management.

Good luck trying to social distance in the washrooms at my office. :facepalm:

Change happens so slow in my workplace to keep employees safe. My colleagues and I just got our work laptops and phones in June for home use.

I don't see plexiglass barriers going up at my office's cubicles anytime soon either. :facepalm:

Westopher, what are your thoughts on this upcoming change in workplace situation?

[hud 91gt]

Can I assume the rationale of your employer is because there simply is not enough room to socially distance everyone in the workplace?

Are employees going to be alternating between working from home, and in the office? By sharing desk space, your employer is now able to create enough room for everyone to keep a safe distance and continue to work more efficiently in the office.

You may work well at home, but I’m sure you can see not all of your co-workers may do the same. Rather then taking this personally, can you see the larger picture?

I bet your employer has changed their cleaning procedures to keep your personal space safe. On top of that, 10 minutes prior to starting your work could you take it upon yourself to do your own cleaning? A little due diligence would go along way to keep you healthy, that is if you do not trust others to clean. I’m sure your union would have zero issue with negotiating you the right to clean your desk.

These are unprecedented times, and I think it is important for everyone to take a little responsibility themselves to make things right. If there are specific items like sharing a headset, bring that up with OHS. They will deem if it is safe or not. Create a procedure to work around it. If you do not agree, you do have the right to carry it up the chain (Right to refuse).

[hud 91gt]

On top of that, with your issue with washrooms. Your OHS team has probably evaluated all workspaces, and created a maximum occupancy for each room. This should be applied to the washroom. You may have to wait to take a piss until the occupancy is below that limit, but you are safe and your management team is eating the cost.

God, I sound like a manager but I’m just a unionized employee who ran the OHS committee, thankfully prior to this BS. Lol.

[westopher]

I really appreciate you taking my input as something valuable, but while I do my best to remain educated on what’s going on, I merely relay information from those who are educated on the situation like our public health officials.

If they say it’s safe for people to return to their workplaces, which they have, I’d trust that to be true. They have mentioned the caveat that there is risks involved, but we know that getting it isn’t a death sentence, and there are plenty of other risks we face in our day to day lives.

That said, your employer should be putting forth a coherent and reasonable plan to mitigate the risks. Social distancing, masks and other protocols are a must, and they must be adhered to. If you don’t trust your employer to do that, you should put that forth and if you still aren’t listened to, work safe BC could be involved in such a complaint. The desks being shared seems like an obvious issue and they should be able to explain how they came to the conclusion that it’s safe, or the protocols they put in place to make it safe. Remember, many of us do not have the option of working from home and we have been doing what we need to do to make that type of work safe.

Again, it’s appreciated that you see me as insightful, but this is far beyond what I know. I can totally teach you how to bake bread or butcher a pig, but that’s where my expertise lies.

I have been responsible in my role of creating a safe work environment for my staff, but all those guidelines can be found on the work safe BC website. It’s worth you looking at it and deciding if you feel like your employer is doing enough to meet those guidelines.

[SkunkWorks]

Westopher, I wanna hear your feedback about this work situation that my colleagues and I will face in the near future. You're a smart and insightful man based on your posts that I see on RS and the numerous "thanks" that you get from members for your posts.

Wow. Westopher's got clout. First I've ever heard of RS 'thanks' being a barometer for intelligence.

If I may, west has 23,396 thanks for 4,869 posts for a thank/post (TP) ratio of 4.81

hud 91gt, while his post is informative, really only has a TP ratio of 2.56 - horrible.

Really, you should stop fantasizing about west and revere me as I've a stellar TP ratio of 7.51

[68style]

Your department sounds kind of garbage pastarocket, mine is just starting phase 1 ext week and that’s 25% maximum employees allowed back at any given time. No shared workspaces or shared equipment, sanitizer stations everywhere... if you even want to go into the office to pick something up you need to email a manager and get out into shift scheduler to see if there’s enough room for you to be in the building...

That said I know of one other department that’s been full back to work for 1 month now all employees... but they’re a relatively small section so not sure how they’re handling it

[westopher]

Wow. Westopher's got clout. First I've ever heard of RS 'thanks' being a barometer for intelligence.

If I may, west has 23,396 thanks for 4,869 posts for a thank/post (TP) ratio of 4.81

hud 91gt, while his post is informative, really only has a TP ratio of 2.56 - horrible.

Really, you should stop fantasizing about west and revere me as I've a stellar TP ratio of 7.51

I mean, I am pretty sweet though.

If anyone here really has an input I want to hear in here it’s spoon.ek9

[pastarocket]

Wow. Westopher's got clout. First I've ever heard of RS 'thanks' being a barometer for intelligence.

If I may, west has 23,396 thanks for 4,869 posts for a thank/post (TP) ratio of 4.81

hud 91gt, while his post is informative, really only has a TP ratio of 2.56 - horrible.

Really, you should stop fantasizing about west and revere me as I've a stellar TP ratio of 7.51

I also read Westopher's posts too for the content before making compliments about him. -not just about TP ratio stats. :lol

Anyways, I am hearing from some colleagues that this plan for "back to work" for my office may have some holes in it terms of mitigating risk of Covid for employees.

As of now, the plan has no transparency in terms of clear communication from management (e-mails, conference calls, etc.) for these factors:


A) changes in shared workspace policy as a result of a Covid case or outbreak.

B) Any email updates about Covid cases in office building in terms of date of incident, office workspace location

C) Contract Tracing for employees who may have come in contact with person with Covid at office.

[hud 91gt]

Privacy becomes the issue with announcing description of Positive COVID cases. The OHS team will be the ones in charge of contact tracing.

[Hondaracer]

Like, I get the privacy argument but given the circumstances it’s rediculous.

My workplace is also focused on that “privacy” aspect however, their approach of Somone feels ill is to send the person for testing, keep everyone in the dark until results come back, and then if they are positive it’s based on your memory of the day in terms of contact tracing all the while if anyone was exposed to that person they have then went and been exposing literally dozens of customers while waiting for person X test results to come back

It’s insane.

[Jmac]

Doesn’t know the difference between droplet and airbourne transmission, calls others idiots :lawl:

[hud 91gt]

I agree. It certainly seems like a risk, and it privacy isn’t an issue announcing the persons name would be the fastest and most accurate way to do contact tracing. But, they can’t.

The risk is apparently small enough it’s a none event. I’m not actually well versed on this virus (I just make sure I’m not being stupid, and continue living my life). But is one not contagious for the first couple days of coming in contact/contracting the virus? If so, the damage is done, and there is really no need in freaking everyone out about a possibility of a positive case.

The actual experts deem it safe, so we carry on.

[Obsideon]

Calling all idiots that think I give a sh!t what your fails mean.
This post FAILED by:
320icar, CRS, EvoFire, haha13, inv4zn, Jmac, MG1, Mining, Obsideon, Presto, RiceIntegraRS, SkinnyPupp, spoon.ek9, twitchyzero, underscore


Takes time to copy, paste and post irrelevant list of fails.
States that he doesn't care about it.
How ironic.
:alone:

[SSM_DC5]

I mean, I am pretty sweet though.

If anyone here really has an input I want to hear in here it’s spoon.ek9

I got a feeling he shares work stations at work.

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMGiYk-7U8

comments are more scary

[EvoFire]

Calling all idiots that think I give a sh!t what your fails mean.
This post FAILED by:
320icar, CRS, EvoFire, haha13, inv4zn, Jmac, MG1, Mining, Obsideon, Presto, RiceIntegraRS, SkinnyPupp, spoon.ek9, twitchyzero, underscore

https://globalnews.ca/news/7348060/coronavirus-cdc-airborne-transmission/
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/u-s-cdc-takes-down-warning-that-covid-19-spreads-through-airborne-particles
https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-deletes-guidance-coronavirus-airborne

Main stream media for all you followers.
Months late everytime. Enjoy.

From the listed articles on your list:

"The WHO has not changed its policy on aerosol transmission of the coronavirus, an official said on Monday."

"Presently, the agency’s guidance says the virus mainly spreads from person-to-person through respiratory droplets, which can land in the mouth or nose of people nearby."

“respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.”

Which all points to using a mask. Which is what the post you quoted said to do. Which means you are a fucking idiot still.

[StylinRed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMGiYk-7U8

comments are more scary

Wow those comments... I'd like to think they're Americans commenting but a lot of em have Canadian inspired usernames or profile pics... ffs

[Teriyaki]

Wow those comments... I'd like to think they're Americans commenting but a lot of em have Canadian inspired usernames or profile pics... ffs

Heard that conspiracy theories on Covid are running rampant in Quebec for some reason. WutFace

[Obsideon]

Wow those comments... I'd like to think they're Americans commenting but a lot of em have Canadian inspired usernames or profile pics... ffs

Yeah I really had to stop reading I was getting so triggered ... I would like to see the demographic of the viewers for this but it is CTV so I assumed it would be mostly Canadians... :fulloffuck:

[Digitalis]

Wait till next summer when more revisions come out smart guy.
There is a reason the UN has said since feb the masks dont work.
From the listed articles on your list:

"The WHO has not changed its policy on aerosol transmission of the coronavirus, an official said on Monday."

"Presently, the agency’s guidance says the virus mainly spreads from person-to-person through respiratory droplets, which can land in the mouth or nose of people nearby."

“respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.”

Which all points to using a mask. Which is what the post you quoted said to do. Which means you are a fucking idiot still.

[hud 91gt]

It’s not that masks don’t work. With proper distancing they aren’t required.

[Teriyaki]

Wait till next summer when more revisions come out smart guy.
There is a reason the UN has said since feb the masks dont work.

Why are we moving the goalposts? You cited those very articles to support your argument though did you not? I think we're all still curious to see how we're all interpreting the message wrong?

If you mean by waiting till next summer for another "revision", are we safe to assume that what you're ultimately saying is that the status quo NOW, as it stands is that there is no good empirical evidence to support that masks are "useless" then? And only, and only until another one of these long-awaited revisions will Jesus come out of the sky to prove you've been right all along?

I also don't recall the UN having an official stance saying masks don't work. Lets add that to the list of things to discuss shall we.

[ilovebacon]

When I pick up food from downtown. I see tons of people not wearing masks nor socal distancing.. Maybe this is the reason why our numbers are going up. Thank god I was raised by parents who take this virus seriously. I apply the 6 feet rules everywhere I go, with a mask or no masks.

[Alpine]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Data from CDC dated Sep 10th.

[Hondaracer]

This is why people don't wear masks -

Percent that die among those hospitalized. Includes both non-ICU and ICU admissions†† -18-49 years: 2.4%

Lets get real, the vast majority of people aren't thinking about "Long term health effects" they don't want to get it, and they don't want to die, that's about it

and statistically, you're not very likely to do either, so roll the dice

[SkinnyPupp]

For the 10 millionth time, preventing a larger outbreak isn't just about "well I have a 97.6% chance to simply be inconvenienced for a couple weeks"

[punkwax]

This is why people don't wear masks -

Percent that die among those hospitalized. Includes both non-ICU and ICU admissions†† -18-49 years: 2.4%

Lets get real, the vast majority of people aren't thinking about "Long term health effects" they don't want to get it, and they don't want to die, that's about it

and statistically, you're not very likely to do either, so roll the dice

As a father of three young children, my primary concern, as well as keeping the grandparents safe, is the unknown possible long term effects. We’re a healthy family that would likely survive this today, but if contracting it means my kids may have a tough time living past 60-70 then :fuckthatshit:

[Hondaracer]

For the 10 millionth time, preventing a larger outbreak isn't just about "well I have a 97.6% chance to simply be inconvenienced for a couple weeks"

You give people too much credit

I completely agree and echo Punkwax’s sentiment of protecting your parents etc. However I think the general thought of the selfish people who do not wear masks as a courtesy to others or simply believe in the scam/hoax theory rely heavily on the idea of you not getting infected and not dieing.

[EvoFire]

As a father of three young children, my primary concern, as well as keeping the grandparents safe, is the unknown possible long term effects. We’re a healthy family that would likely survive this today, but if contracting it means my kids may have a tough time living past 60-70 then :fuckthatshit:

This is why people don't wear masks -

Percent that die among those hospitalized. Includes both non-ICU and ICU admissions†† -18-49 years: 2.4%

Lets get real, the vast majority of people aren't thinking about "Long term health effects" they don't want to get it, and they don't want to die, that's about it

and statistically, you're not very likely to do either, so roll the dice

What skinny said, but also what punkwax said. We don't know the long term ramifications of even recovering from the virus. The long term effects of recovering from SARS sucks pretty bad, and people didn't know until a few years after the fact because they simply weren't able to achieve the same respiratory levels as before.

[Alpine]

I'm not saying that we should throw caution to the wind, but just look at something like BPA that most of us have been consuming for most of our lives. It was used for over 50 years until we figured out that it is harmful to humans. Since then we've done a great job at eliminating BPA from newer plastics but what about the consumption of micro/nano plastics? I wonder what science will say about that in the coming decades.

My point is, there will always be things that we do today that will have long-term ramifications to our health but we won't know about it until the long-term.

[Harry V. Gina]

As a father of three young children, my primary concern, as well as keeping the grandparents safe, is the unknown possible long term effects.

How dare you bring logic into this conversation.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Anyone hear a potential case at the Yaohan T&T?

[Hondaracer]

Anyone hear a potential case at the Yaohan T&T?

Yea don’t go there

[G]

Yea don’t go there

Walked around Foody World in Richmond... :heckno:never again

[spoon.ek9]

Doesn’t know the difference between droplet and airbourne transmission, calls others idiots :lawl:

Bingo. This is why I try to not engage individuals who are very clearly misinformed. This very topic of transmission was discussed and clarified multiple times in the early stages of this thread. Different modes of transmission require different methods of handling and PPE. If anyone is still unclear on this, I would be happy to explain again.

As for that workplace scenario, it sounds like the management group has a plan but has not been transparent enough about it. Yes, we have shared working spaces around the hospital and no, it isn't a problem. Why? Because it's very simple for us (as well as housekeeping) to disinfect these areas. My guess is that management wants to rotate people in and out of the office in order to reduce the number of workers and abide by social distancing guidelines. Removal of personal items from work stations means it's easier to disinfect. Sharing of working space means there's less stations to clean. It also makes it easier to track for cleaning schedules on the housekeeping end of things.

As someone already pointed out, it's best to not look at things in a cynical manner right off the bat. It's alright to question if something seems odd but try to understand and communicate rather than fly off the handle only to make yourself look ridiculous later when you're wrong.

[Manic!]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/point-roberts-covid-1.5740806

Point Roberts not doing so good. 5 gas stations for less than 1000 people.

[68style]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/point-roberts-covid-1.5740806

Point Roberts not doing so good. 5 gas stations for less than 1000 people.

I got a letter in the mail last week that the Banner Bank which I have an account at is closing permanently and amalgamating to the one in Blaine... sucks

[pastarocket]

Two idiots "fight" inside a bus in Surrey during this weekend because one dude refused to wear a mask. Surrey 312 bus.
The younger guy is doing his best to slap the older guy. :lawl:

https://www.facebook.com/nealandjackie.menzies/posts/3199920553459139

[GLOW]

won't wear a mask, but will get in a fight with a rando in surrey, get scraped and potentially in contact with blood
:derp:

[BlackV62K2]

won't wear a mask, but will get in a fight with a rando in surrey, get scraped and potentially in contact with blood
:derp:

That's hectic bro

[lowda9]

Stupid question, i didn't research, but hoping someone can answer for me. Can I cross the border to pickup car parts I got shipped to blaine? It's maybe "essential travel" because I "need" the parts.

[westopher]

No. Get the shipping forwarded or you’ll probably be waiting til January.

[cafe22]

Stupid question, i didn't research, but hoping someone can answer for me. Can I cross the border to pickup car parts I got shipped to blaine? It's maybe "essential travel" because I "need" the parts.

CBSA officer ":rukidding:"

[Alpine]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html?fbclid=IwAR2i2jrtaORYwmp_iAqj-MiBS27ym5SGWAMUfVicKo1pifowPQaTmOO3gNA

Article about the validity of current testing methods.

[StylinRed]

Stupid question, i didn't research, but hoping someone can answer for me. Can I cross the border to pickup car parts I got shipped to blaine? It's maybe "essential travel" because I "need" the parts.

Nope

My friend wanted to go get his RV that he has stored, so that his wife could use it for work (she's a nurse and wanted to sleep in it to keep away from the family) he got turned around by the US, and then still had to quarantine for two weeks

But if you have a business, you could try using the commercial crossing, as long as you have all the necessary documents

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/guide-eng.html

[dachinesedude]

saw two Cali plates this weekend, both of them families with children

CBSA more lax than CBP? or is the Alaska loophole still working?

[CivicBlues]

^ were they Persian/Middle Eastern looking? Apparently a ton of them work in the Valley and keep their families up here. Could be waiting it out this side of the border.

[dachinesedude]

nah they were white

[EvoFire]

Been seeing a lot of US plates, lot ofrandom state plates too like Tennessee, Texas, Alabama. I'm guessing Canadians working in the states have escaped back to Canada?

[Hehe]

Stupid question, i didn't research, but hoping someone can answer for me. Can I cross the border to pickup car parts I got shipped to blaine? It's maybe "essential travel" because I "need" the parts.

The only way to pick stuff up now (assuming it's in Blaine, not Pt. Robert) is to fly down to Seattle, and either rent a car or have a Seattle based buddy to drive you back. (And you have to be CDN citizen/PR to cross back to Canada... but if you are walking back, expect an earful from border agents)

I have a friend who did just that as he ordered a whole bunch of stuff before summer (he thought the closure would only last a month or two before his summer flight to China) that were gifts/stuff for relatives in Asia.

He had to do it because he had no use for all those stuff...

What he ended up doing was... YVR-SEA... rented a car to drive all the way back to Blaine, picked everything, drove back to SEA, and flew back to Asia from SEA-YVR-PVG. (Yes, he actually flew back again to YVR for his connection to China)

[twitchyzero]

guy in my hood has WA plates, no biggie

disappears for a while then returns with CA plates for weeks now :rukidding:

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

[SkinnyPupp]

Seems like it was just a matter of time... The person who handled it as poorly as possible goes and gets it before the election. The only surprise is that it took this long. Here's hoping nobody around him gets it really bad. That includes everyone who was involved in that debate...

[Manic!]

Hey welfare what about that hydroxychloroquine?

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQS3Fel96E

[hud 91gt]

Or he gets it... “recovers” and proceeds with his campaign to sway any on the edge that it’s no big deal.... there’s that tin foil hat. Ha.

[Hehe]

Or he gets it... “recovers” and proceeds with his campaign to sway any on the edge that it’s no big deal.... there’s that tin foil hat. Ha.

You know what they say... what doesn't kill you....

[underscore]

Or he gets it... “recovers” and proceeds with his campaign to sway any on the edge that it’s no big deal.... there’s that tin foil hat. Ha.

Isn't that what happened in Brazil?

[Ludepower]

Not wishing Trump death but he definitely deserves catching it. Doesn't promote mask wearing or social distancing while encouraging people to come to his massive rallies.

[SkinnyPupp]

Not wishing Trump death but he definitely deserves catching it. Doesn't promote mask wearing or social distancing while encouraging people to come to his massive rallies.
He literally mocked Biden at the debate for wearing a mask, to his face

There's nobody on this planet who deserves it more

[Great68]

Oh god, he's going to recover and start spouting "See it's like I've been saying all along, it's not so bad!"

The timing of this news seems a bit too convenient, don't you think?

[StylinRed]

Well with debates n rallies going on they're all encountering more people and in closer proximity,
I wouldn't be surprised if they all get it, including Biden

[Manic!]

Well with debates n rallies going on they're all encountering more people and in closer proximity,
I wouldn't be surprised if they all get it, including Biden

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/15/913137954/4-differences-in-how-biden-and-trump-campaign-right-now

[Ludepower]

Well with debates n rallies going on they're all encountering more people and in closer proximity,
I wouldn't be surprised if they all get it, including Biden


Show me a picture of Biden hosting a rally during a pandemic. During the debate Biden was mocked that no one would attend by Trump. Aged like milk.

[StylinRed]

Doesn't change the fact that they're all encountering more ppl now than they would be if an election, debates, rallies, etc weren't taking place...

Sure bidens taking precautions, great... But they're all at a higher risk now

[SkinnyPupp]

NYC locking down again

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1312850023378550786

[CivicBlues]

^Some neighborhoods with a high proportion of Hasidim.

If there's one good thing that might come from this virus is putting the microscope on religious fundamentalists and perhaps idiotic religious beliefs in general. Church/Mosque attendees superspreading, cult superspreaders in Korea, anti-maskers, "pray the virus away". I hope this bullshit gets put to bed sooner than it would have. It was fine and dandy to ignore them before but now they're putting us all in danger.

[StylinRed]

Several states r breaking daily virus records, and 1 in 4 tests in wisconsin are coming back positive... keep our borders closed longer plz omg

[Ludepower]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/3618196001

Kellyanne Conway daughter has it now. Apparently her mom was coughing all over the house and knew about the positive test but didn't want her daughter knowing because she would of leaked it first to tiktok.

Way to throw your kid under the bus. Disgusting parenting if true.

[Manic!]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/3618196001

Kellyanne Conway daughter has it now. Apparently her mom was coughing all over the house and knew about the positive test but didn't want her daughter knowing because she would of leaked it first to tiktok.

Way to throw your kid under the bus. Disgusting parenting if true.

and people where calling her names when she wants to be emancipated from her parents.

[westopher]

The same people who are fucking crying because of the “big lefty meanies” that are indifferent to trumps suffering at the hands of this disease.

[SkinnyPupp]

The same people who are fucking crying because of the “big lefty meanies” that are indifferent to trumps suffering at the hands of this disease.
There is literally nothing more ironic. Before this it was them making fun of people for wearing masks, calling them "weak". When wearing masks is a real sacrifice people make to take care of one another.

And before that, calling "lefties" "snowflakes" when they are overly sensitive and react to every bit of backlash like fucking babies

And moronic, when they tell "lefties" they need to be more politically correct EleGiggle

[68style]

I love that Trump’s campaign advisor said they will not change their rallies going forward because they can’t hide in a basement like Biden does and life must go on.

They really do all deserve this.

[StylinRed]

I imagine they've decided that their country can't slowdown due to the virus or else they'll collapse, so they want everyone going about their day as usual

And instead of marketing that belief as a "we must continue working even tho this virus is deadly" they've decided its easier to get everyone on board by dismissing the virus entirely

But I may be giving them more credit than they deserve

[Teriyaki]

I really wonder what the conversation is like for those that were claiming "its a hoax bro", " do you know anyone that even HAS it mannn".

[SumAznGuy]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070


:rukidding:

[Qmx323]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070


:rukidding:

THANKS DONALD!

I AM GOING BACK TO DEEP THROATING EVERY HANDRAIL I SEE BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU FELT BETTER THAN YOU DID 20 YEARS AGO!!!

[68style]

Said in the other thread but might as well here too... bet he’s going to say release of the drugs that helped him (not saved him cuz he’s so strong and great leader) is contingent on him continuing his presidency... all the news stations got cucked big time showing concern and well wishes and how serious the condition of this fucker was made him look even stronger coming out of it

[Harvey Specter]

Said in the other thread but might as well here too... bet he’s going to say release of the drugs that helped him (not saved him cuz he’s so strong and great leader) is contingent on him continuing his presidency... all the news stations got cucked big time showing concern and well wishes and how serious the condition of this fucker was made him look even stronger coming out of it

He had and possibly still has investments in both companies that produced the drugs, not suspicious at all.

[Spoon]

Who checked on recent Trump threads/news for the remote chance he kicked the bucket? :lol

[Hondaracer]

Not likely, no one important has ever died of Covid

[SumAznGuy]

Who checked on recent Trump threads/news for the remote chance he kicked the bucket? :lol

Won't lie. I was hoping Simpsons predicted another one.

[yray]

intubated in a week, simpsons always right

[!LittleDragon]

It's fake.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/simpsons-predict-trumps-death/

[yray]

It's fake.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/simpsons-predict-trumps-death/

shut up flanders :troll:

[cafe22]

https://youtu.be/-vXrqyApyrg?t=884

:lawl:

[blkgsr]

who or what in the fuck was that woman.....jesus

[quasi]

who or what in the fuck was that woman.....jesus

That's a Wendy Williams, it's an angry old version of the cougar be scared and be aware.

[MG1]

who or what in the fuck was that woman.....jesus


Wendy Williams.......... she's hot, said no one, evar........... see her in a dark alley and you will be scarred for life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8813329/Wendy-Williams-mispronounced-coronavirus-cornova-Trumps-return-White-House.html

[spoon.ek9]

Pretty sad that after all this time, all this knowledge and education surrounding this exact topic that someone in the US could still butcher the name that badly lol. It kind of personifies how poorly it's been handled down south.

[Alpine]

https://twitter.com/SongbirdTam_83/status/1314065214015377409

Feel free to ignore the whole NWO stuff so you don't get distracted but here is a statement from the health minister of south wales saying that your own home is now a place of danger.

[CivicBlues]

^ *New South Wales, Australia. They're freaking out because for the first time in ages they have higher cases than their neighbour Victoria (12 vs 10)

What he's saying is true though, people are getting it in their homes by having gatherings and such.

[Obsideon]

I'm starting to get a sense of 'COVID Fatigue' everywhere. Especially with school starting, Winter coming, every parent I talked to is basically "I give up, kids are going to school, nobody is wearing masks, this is never going to end, whatever will be will be"

[StylinRed]

Oh man the conspiracy theorists are going to jizz in their pants over that nwo comment :lol

I appreciate how Australia is taking things more seriously than we are, they're flipping out over having a dozen or less cases a day

Yep everyone seems to be completely 'back to normal' yikes (in terms of social circles, and 'going out'), but at least people are masked up and social distancing while they're out n about

[Hehe]

I'm starting to get a sense of 'COVID Fatigue' everywhere. Especially with school starting, Winter coming, every parent I talked to is basically "I give up, kids are going to school, nobody is wearing masks, this is never going to end, whatever will be will be"

To be honest, what can you expect though.

It's not about fatigue... but the overall effectiveness of masks given the context.

If you aren't going to make it mandatory for EVERYONE at school to wear one at all time, then, unless one doesn't send their kids to school, with or without masks, it becomes irrelevant. The kid gotta eat, drink, and do many other activities... where mask wearing becomes an impossible task.

I have said it before, I even wrote to local MPs and schoolboard members... let's do better. Let's gear up the kids and their family with the right tools for trace and tracking. Temperature check on arrival/recess and a careful monitoring of everyone.

We can't go back to lockdown... because any potential benefit outweighs the costs. Kids need a place to gather, learn and play. And Covid is going to be with us in the foreseeable future. Let's set it up so that we can prep the kids for this new normal.
For now, what the school is doing is just keep doing the OLD normal and hope that there isn't an outbreak. I really don't think it'd take long for the hell to break loose.

[pastarocket]

https://www.citynews1130.com/video/

Trudeau's Covid-19 update before the Thanksgiving long weekend.

-encouraging Canadians to download the health Canada covid app on their smartphones.

-new financial support for businesses. Canadian Emergency Rent Subsidy. -

-extend wage subsidy for employees.

-378,000 jobs were added to the economy in September.

-up to $10,000 in forgivable loans to small businesses.

-additional $100 million in funding to assist food banks and improve food security.

-deputy prime minister Freeland announcement: -financial support is directly accessible to businesses at local level. -targetted support for Canadian Emergency Rent Subsidy.

Canadian Emergency Wage Subsidy extended to december 2019. 65 percent of wages.

Canadian emergency rent subsidy extended. New program. rent support until June 2021 for businesses that prove that Covid affected their businesses. -cover up to 65% of rent coverage for business affected by Covid (that faced 75 percent decrease in revenues). Businesses must provide proof that loss in business is due to Covid. targetted support based on business need.

-funding in tens of millions of dollars to Nunavut and Northwest Territories.

[mikemhg]

https://www.citynews1130.com/video/

Trudeau's Covid-19 update before the Thanksgiving long weekend.

-encouraging Canadians to download the health Canada covid app on their smartphones.

-new financial support for businesses. Canadian Emergency Rent Subsidy. -

-extend wage subsidy for employees.

-378,000 jobs were added to the economy in September.

-up to $10,000 in forgivable loans to small businesses.

-additional $100 million in funding to assist food banks and improve food security.

-deputy prime minister Freeland announcement: -financial support is directly accessible to businesses at local level. -targetted support for Canadian Emergency Rent Subsidy.

Canadian Emergency Wage Subsidy extended to december 2019. 65 percent of wages.

Canadian emergency rent subsidy extended. New program. rent support until June 2021 for businesses that prove that Covid affected their businesses. -cover up to 65% of rent coverage for business affected by Covid (that faced 75 percent decrease in revenues). Businesses must provide proof that loss in business is due to Covid. targetted support based on business need.

-funding in tens of millions of dollars to Nunavut and Northwest Territories.

It's amazing to see the complete disparity between our government's support and response for Canadians during this whole crisis, as opposed to our neighbors down south.

[68style]

^
Communist!!!

Lol

[Hehe]

https://www.citynews1130.com/video/

Trudeau's Covid-19 update before the Thanksgiving long weekend.

-encouraging Canadians to download the health Canada covid app on their smartphones.

-new financial support for businesses. Canadian Emergency Rent Subsidy. -

-extend wage subsidy for employees.

-378,000 jobs were added to the economy in September.

-up to $10,000 in forgivable loans to small businesses.

-additional $100 million in funding to assist food banks and improve food security.

-deputy prime minister Freeland announcement: -financial support is directly accessible to businesses at local level. -targetted support for Canadian Emergency Rent Subsidy.

Canadian Emergency Wage Subsidy extended to december 2019. 65 percent of wages.

Canadian emergency rent subsidy extended. New program. rent support until June 2021 for businesses that prove that Covid affected their businesses. -cover up to 65% of rent coverage for business affected by Covid (that faced 75 percent decrease in revenues). Businesses must provide proof that loss in business is due to Covid. targetted support based on business need.

-funding in tens of millions of dollars to Nunavut and Northwest Territories.

To be frank, I'm horrified by Liberal's action

All these money spent on everything BUT Covid.

Do you guys really feel these "supports" are what our communities need?
All I'm seeing is trying to address the problems and not the cause.

It's Covid that made tenants couldn't pay the rent. It's Covid that businesses need to layoff employees, and it's STILL Covid that we can't fully reopen our economy. If you don't address the cause... how long can our government keep taking on debts to fund these "support" programs?

Ontario is back to a semi-lockdown stage, and I honestly don't think it'd be long before they go back to a full lockdown again.

All these money come from the pocket of our future generations. Every Canadian baby born today would inherit x amount of dollars from these "millions of dollars" as their debt of being born a Canadian.

We should be spending all these money to trace and track down any and ALL cases. Pass laws, and if that's not an option, declare a national emergency (where some constitutional rights can legally be temporary bypassed) to FORCE everyone to download an app and track their travel history (it can be made that it tracks to the account, and not any personal info, so it won't be a huge privacy concern) IF they want to go any public place. And make body temperature check in as many major crowd gathering point (public transportation, schools... etc) as possible.

Yes... there'd be Canadians in need... and we'd have some program in place to provide basic needs, but the important point is to START ADDRESSING THE VIRUS rather than focusing on how to deal with the problems that arose because of the pandemic.

If we keep doing that, and a vaccine isn't ready for another 3yrs. Would our gov't have enough funding and a responsible repayment plan to go on for another 3yrs? Let's say 3yrs is an exaggeration... let's say another year until end of 2021... at the pace Liberals are spending, by the time the pandemic is done, so will our country. We'd be so heavily in debt that we'd either have to cut HEAVILY to any social programs and raise taxes beyond imagination to pay for all these. In other words, the pandemic won't kill us... but it'd threaten our livelihoods

[68style]

^ I actually agree with you, but it would be political suicide and all the “I hate turd-no” people would go berserk... you can’t just change the mindset of an entire society into a... well... Asian one (for lack of a better way of saying it) overnight.

Western society is entirely predicated on the idea of government representing them or being there for them when required, maybe asking them to do certain things... but definitely not telling them what to do.

[Hehe]

^ I actually agree with you, but it would be political suicide and all the “I hate turd-no” people would go berserk... you can’t just change the mindset of an entire society into a... well... Asian one (for lack of a better way of saying it) overnight.

Western society is entirely predicated on the idea of government representing them or being there for them when required, maybe asking them to do certain things... but definitely not telling them what to do.

I'm not really about the gov't asking people what to do, but rather where to focus their resources on.

We have Covid for over half a year already if you count it from March. And yet ALL the expenses from gov't is targeting problems with no mention of any budgeting and support to address the problem.

No funding for track and tracing, no funding (at least not major) for vaccine/treatment researches, and no funding (again, no major... or at least I couldn't find on Google) on our health system to better prepare for Covid or any future outbreak.

It's "support" after "support"... but who are we really supporting?

I'd give them the CERB, because the sudden cut of economy was unprecedented. And the wage subsidies... maybe... to a stretch.

But commercial rent subsidies, I'm heavily against it. Why would the commercial landlords be allowed to get (up to 75%) of their rent when the whole market went shit? All business has risks... and this is the risk of commercial RE. It shouldn't be Canadians' responsibility to ensure that these landlords can receive their rents.

As for the businesses, if business has to go kaput because landlord doesn't want to renegotiate and the business itself can't adapt to the new Covid environment... bad luck, but if you let everything collapse at once, the landlord would then realize that by playing the hardball won't get them anywhere and would therefore willing to renegotiate (at least temporarily) for a rent abatement or reduction.

And there are ways to avoid total collapse too. All it needs is for CRA to change its rule a little bit for 2020 that allows to claim such "loss of income due to covid" as a tax credit/deductible expense of some sort for the landlords and they would really minimize their impact.

I'm against market intervention in this aspect. It was totally unnecessary.

[Xu.Vi]

Been hearing a guy a few floors below me in my condo cough every 15-20 minutes severely since 7AM. Not sure if covid19 or not, but not something I want...that's for sure.

[inv4zn]

Been hearing a guy a few floors below me in my condo cough every 15-20 minutes severely since 7AM. Not sure if covid19 or not, but not something I want...that's for sure.

Is your building made of hay, how can you hear a few floors below you lol.

Jokes aside, it's become a weird society for sure - even for me when I'm out somewhere and someone lets out a single cough I can't help but notice it immediately, something that would have never happened before all this.

A few months ago I walked into a chinese restaurant to pick up dinner (mask on and everything), and the weight of the door going in caught me off guard and some spit went down my windpipe. Never in my life have I done anything more difficult than trying not to cough violently that time lol.

[Xu.Vi]

Is your building made of hay, how can you hear a few floors below you lol.

Jokes aside, it's become a weird society for sure - even for me when I'm out somewhere and someone lets out a single cough I can't help but notice it immediately, something that would have never happened before all this.

A few months ago I walked into a chinese restaurant to pick up dinner (mask on and everything), and the weight of the door going in caught me off guard and some spit went down my windpipe. Never in my life have I done anything more difficult than trying not to cough violently that time lol.

Hear him coughing from out his window* :lol . Everyone is hyper-vigilant...goes to show how adaptive we are when it comes to an apparent threat.

[Hondaracer]

I’ve been coughing a lot more but it’s because it’s harvest time and I’ve been smoking way more weed than usual lol

[ilovebacon]

https://twitter.com/SongbirdTam_83/status/1314065214015377409

Feel free to ignore the whole NWO stuff so you don't get distracted but here is a statement from the health minister of south wales saying that your own home is now a place of danger.

Is it crazy to say that I've been expecting a new world order back since 2012?

[Gumby]

No funding for track and tracing, no funding (at least not major) for vaccine/treatment researches, and no funding (again, no major... or at least I couldn't find on Google) on our health system to better prepare for Covid or any future outbreak.

You're probably not using the right search terms...

This was back in June, I believe: Government of Canada and Provincial partners invest more than $109M in COVID-19 research (https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2020/06/government-of-canada-and-provincial-partners-invest-more-than-109m-in-covid-19-research.html)

The funding opportunity results are listed here (https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/52013.html), and the research areas covered include vaccines, diagnostics, therapeutics, clinical management and health system interventions, and social policy and public health responses.

[Hehe]

You're probably not using the right search terms...

This was back in June, I believe: Government of Canada and Provincial partners invest more than $109M in COVID-19 research (https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2020/06/government-of-canada-and-provincial-partners-invest-more-than-109m-in-covid-19-research.html)

The funding opportunity results are listed here (https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/52013.html), and the research areas covered include vaccines, diagnostics, therapeutics, clinical management and health system interventions, and social policy and public health responses.

109 Millions... sounds great on paper. But if you look into details, that's split onto over 139 projects... less than a million each.

I'm glad that our gov't is doing something... but this looks to me more like a "for face" kinda spending when countries like US, UK, Germany... etc are pouring in hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars on a few projects.

Again, I think the libs lacks focus... they are just spending and spending because they somehow justify it. But they aren't really doing shit...

[68style]

Our population is tiny, it doesn’t make fiscal sense to pour billions into vaccine research when other countries with much larger capacity and advanced labs/companies are already doing it.

Hate to say it since it doesn’t allow us to be “Proud Canadians” but sometimes riding on the coat tails of others is the soundest plan possible.

[pastarocket]

Dr. Henry's Covid update for this past Thanksgiving long weekend:

549 new cases
5 new deaths
4 new outbreaks

In particular, Dr. Henry stressed again the importance of keeping bubbles small in terms of social interaction with a small group of people for sports. She noted that Covid was spread among spectators/parents as they were watching students play in school team sports. Dr. Henry said that it is important to limit the number of sports that people play as a group. Stick to one sport that you and your family deem the most important.

[Spoon]

Thought the school boards shut down all sports teams. Or is that for certain districts only?

[Hondaracer]

Drive passed Burnaby lake any day, there’s hundreds of soccer players sharing the few field there frequently

[GLOW]

but they don't touch each other :troll: Kappa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukFUEI5qz8

[StylinRed]

Freedom Mega Rally

31408

Mostly old ppl, like the highest risk demo

Saturday’s demonstration was the first of two planned over the weekend. Posters and social media descriptions of the event describe it as a protest against “censorship, lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, quarantines, travel bans, social distancing, contact tracing, and government orders.”

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/17/vancouver-anti-mask-rally-covid-19/

[punkwax]

:facepalm:

[danned]

coronavirus is really happy to see this

[320icar]

Not one asian person in that crowd. No wonder people feel safer in richmond over anywhere else.

Edit: where are the cops? Where are the tickets???

Edit 2: Fry says police and bylaw officers can’t clamp down on a protest without direction from the province’s public health officials. B.C.’s top doctor has issued Public Health Orders restricting gatherings, and party-organizers have been slapped with fines of up to $2,300. However, there is nothing in place to limit or curb protests amid the pandemic.

[underscore]

Have fun getting home :lol

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/17/bc-ferries-anti-mask-protesters-police-banned/

WEST VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) — West Vancouver Police were called to intervene after about a dozen anti-mask protesters boarded a ferry, and began causing a disturbance.

Deborah Marshall with BC Ferries explains the protesters got on the ferry departing from Departure Bay because they were attending an anti-mask rally in downtown Vancouver Saturday.

“They were being verbally abusive to other customers wearing masks. And we do have a mandatory mask policy at BC ferries. So we don’t put up with this type of behaviour and that’s why we call the police.”

Marshall says people involved were been banned from travelling with BC Ferries for the remainder of Saturday, and the ban may be extended – so they will have to find another way home.

She adds, all of the day’s sailings on the route between Departure Bay and Horseshoe bay have been delayed because of this incident– they’re running about 45 minutes behind schedule.

“Our crews will try to make up some time during the day but anybody travelling on that route today, I would suggest that they check out our website and look at the current status of the vessel.”

Jason Doucette with the VPD, says officers are aware of the protest near the Vancouver Art Gallery.

“We’ll have resources dedicated to the event to ensure the safety of the protestors, the public, and the police,” he says.

“Our organization respects peaceful protests and during public demonstrations, the VPD’s response is proportionate to the actives observed. Although we are not anticipating any serious issues today, we are prepared to deal with anything that may arise.”

[SkinnyPupp]

Freedom Mega Rally

31408

Mostly old ppl, like the highest risk demo



https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/17/vancouver-anti-mask-rally-covid-19/
Murica LUL

Oh wait

[quasi]

Have fun getting home :lol

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/17/bc-ferries-anti-mask-protesters-police-banned/

Should have banned them for life, let em swim, find their own boat or fly.

[68style]

I really don’t get what the big deal is, we all do stuff in our lives that’s inconvenient even if we don’t want to.... like go to fucking school and work hahaha... but to pick putting a face covering on as your line in the sand that you won’t cross? It’s just bizarre. Why is it so difficult even if you don’t think it’s effective or whatever other rationale people come up with.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say most of the people participating are financially afflicted and that’s their real issue — bitter and angry and frustrated that they’re broke already or that they’ve been made broken by this thing.

[hud 91gt]

^ my real stubbornness comes out when people tell me I can’t do something. Normally in regards skillset, physical ability or just straight up mental capacity.... Following a rule? Probably not. But someone saying you “cant” generally fires me up. But who is telling these people they can’t? BC Ferries and Walmart? Lol

[bcrdukes]

The law suggests you shouldn't exceed the post limit, and when the police nab you for going over, are you going to be stubborn and tell the police to fuck off? :troll:

[hud 91gt]

The law suggests you shouldn't exceed the post limit, and when the police nab you for going over, are you going to be stubborn and tell the police to fuck off? :troll:

That’s not my logic for everything. I just said that’s what usually fires me up. I am a logical person. Lol.

[Doubl3_H]

Not one asian person in that crowd. No wonder people feel safer in richmond over anywhere else.

Edit: where are the cops? Where are the tickets???

Edit 2:

Cops were there directing traffic, quite a few of them.

Uneducated, dirty, white people.

[mikemhg]

Freedom Mega Rally

31408

Mostly old ppl, like the highest risk demo



https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/17/vancouver-anti-mask-rally-covid-19/

Honda, were you down there? :lol

[twitchyzero]

throat started tickling just looking at that image

[SkunkWorks]

throat started tickling just looking at that image

I believe that's from the penis in your mouth.

[bcrdukes]

I believe that's from the penis in your mouth.

Quoted / Sig'd :fuckyea:

[underscore]

^ my real stubbornness comes out when people tell me I can’t do something. Normally in regards skillset, physical ability or just straight up mental capacity.... Following a rule? Probably not. But someone saying you “cant” generally fires me up. But who is telling these people they can’t? BC Ferries and Walmart? Lol

I'm pretty sure these peoples actions go far beyond being stubborn though. Funny how no shirt/no shoes/no service has never been an problem but suddenly asking people to wear a mask for the benefit of others is an issue. I know plenty of people can't comprehend doing something for the benefit of others but putting this much effort into it over the tiniest thing is just sad.

[GLOW]

throat started tickling just looking at that image

I believe that's from the penis in your mouth.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/that-escalated-quickly-300x300.jpg

[winson604]

^ my real stubbornness comes out when people tell me I can’t do something. Normally in regards skillset, physical ability or just straight up mental capacity.... Following a rule? Probably not. But someone saying you “cant” generally fires me up. But who is telling these people they can’t? BC Ferries and Walmart? Lol

My real issue is the double standard. Walks into a place with a mask mandatory policy, you object when called out by staff and lose it. Yapping away at freedom of choice yet you don't respect the business to have the freedom of choice to serve you or not. Can't have it both ways but we know logic doesn't work.

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfy16s94k0

lol @ comments

[welfare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfy16s94k0

lol @ comments

Yes the comments are invaluable.
Without them i wouldn't have learned that they'd found a large pre-existing tumor in her chest. You'd think that would warrant more than a slipped in paragraph at the end of the story.
But no, she should be worried for the covid and not the large growth in her lungs.
what disgusting manipulative exploitation.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/it-can-happen-to-anyone-31-year-old-vancouver-woman-nearly-dies-of-covid-19-1.5147480

Edit: looks like they took that story down.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/10/it-can-happen-to-anyone-vancouver-woman-31-nearly-dies-from-covid-19.html

[Great68]

I really don’t get what the big deal is, we all do stuff in our lives that’s inconvenient even if we don’t want to.... like go to fucking school and work hahaha... but to pick putting a face covering on as your line in the sand that you won’t cross? It’s just bizarre. Why is it so difficult even if you don’t think it’s effective or whatever other rationale people come up with.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say most of the people participating are financially afflicted and that’s their real issue — bitter and angry and frustrated that they’re broke already or that they’ve been made broken by this thing.


This makes sense. I can't imagine THAT many people lack so much common sense. They're using these protests as an outlet for their anger.

In a way though, it's true that those in public facing businesses who are the most affected and have been sort of our sacrificial lambs in this crisis and I can understand their anger.

[SkinnyPupp]

Today, Welfare learned that young people can have pre-existing conditions too :fulloffuck:

[Great68]

Yes the comments are invaluable.
Without them i wouldn't have learned that they'd found a large tumor in her chest. You'd think that would warrant more than a slipped in paragraph at the end of the story.
But no, she should be worried for the covid and not the large growth in her lungs.
what disgusting manipulative exploitation.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/it-can-happen-to-anyone-31-year-old-vancouver-woman-nearly-dies-of-covid-19-1.5147480

This is exactly the example why we all need to be so diligent. There are many people out there walking around who have no idea they are carrying a pre-existing condition that could be complicated with COVID. Should people like her have to risk or accept death because some other shitstains don't want to follow the rules?

[welfare]

Today, Welfare learned that young people can have pre-existing conditions too :fulloffuck:
My wife is a type one diabetic not much older than the woman, but thanks for pointing that out.

This is exactly the example why we all need to be so diligent. There are many people out there walking around who have no idea they are carrying a pre-existing condition that could be complicated with COVID. Should people like her have to risk or accept death because some other shitstains don't want to follow the rules?

Yea. I get that. But you think they could have mentioned something like a tumor in her lungs a little more explicitly.
Rather than deceptively dropping it in the story, in a single sentence, at the end.

You think them blatantly editing that part of the story is a good idea?
That the segment of the population not taking it seriously aren't going to see that garbage and use it to assure themselves?
It's no wonder people don't trust these clowns in the media and then go off on their conspiracy tangents FailFish

[MarkyMark]

What if Covid sends you to the hospital only to reveal something more severe wrong with you, but since they caught it early getting Covid actually saved your life?

[Hondaracer]

Her case was so severe in fact that she managed to snap some IG selfies while in the ICU

[welfare]

Her makeup was definitely on point :hay:

[Obsideon]

B.C. announces second wave of COVID-19, 499 new cases over weekend (https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/19/b-c-second-wave-covid-19/)
How can there be a second wave if the first one never ended? :considered:

[SkinnyPupp]

Her case was so severe in fact that she managed to snap some IG selfies while in the ICU
That's kind of the point of the story. She represents the clueless segment of the population who think they are invincible to everything, including covid. She was out partying, being dumb, and is the type of person to take selfies in the hospital. Then she died.

She is literally the people everyone is getting outraged about. The question is, how many others did she spread it to? How many of them had pre-existing conditions, or were old age?

How hard is it to NOT be selfish? Wearing a mask sucks to be sure, not partying sucks to be sure. But it's not difficult to do those things.

[Hondaracer]

Well yea that’s kind of the irony in the way those stories are presented as “if it can happen to me it can happen to anyone!!”

Really? It can happen to Somone who takes precautions, wears a mask, and is up to date in matters of their health?

She hardly represents the norm which you clearly laid out yet the news positions the story like it’s just a regular, cautious, citizen when bu the looks of it she’s anything but.

[320icar]

How hard is it to NOT be selfish? Wearing a mask sucks to be sure, not partying sucks to be sure. But it's not difficult to do those things.

https://youtu.be/pu9KFUhu0Y8

Actual American politicians comparing wearing a mask to the Jews in nazi Germany. What the fuck is wrong with that country

[westopher]

Well yea that’s kind of the irony in the way those stories are presented as “if it can happen to me it can happen to anyone!!”

Really? It can happen to Somone who takes precautions, wears a mask, and is up to date in matters of their health?

You're missing the angle here. She's being used as a cautionary tale to convince people who are being negligent to take precautions, and wear a mask, because even though you think you are young and healthy, you can still get fucked.
It's not some super media conspiracy to tell people who are being cautious to get super scared.

[GLOW]

Her makeup was definitely on point :hay:

if you hear a thick enough layer of makeup, can it act as a mask Kappa

[SkinnyPupp]

She hardly represents the norm which you clearly laid out yet the news positions the story like it’s just a regular, cautious, citizen when bu the looks of it she’s anything but.

From the first paragraph

Alison Lowe admits she didn’t take COVID-19 too seriously last summer, instead enjoying gatherings with her group of friends. “We made the most of our summer. We thought we were invincible, we really honestly thought we were invincible. I thought I was invincible, she said.

This article is calling out people who aren't taking it seriously. I'm not sure how you and welfare are interpreting it so differently... It's a very short, simple article

[welfare]

This article is calling out people who aren't taking it seriously. I'm not sure how you and welfare are interpreting it so differently... It's a very short, simple article

Hey all I'm saying is don't present a story in a manner that looks like there's some agenda. Or else people are likely to think there's, well, an agenda. Which was pretty evident in the comments of that story there and on Twitter.
Regardless of the intentions, i don't think it helps.

[welfare]

What if Covid sends you to the hospital only to reveal something more severe wrong with you, but since they caught it early getting Covid actually saved your life?

I can see the headlines already "covid saves young woman's life".
Man that story could have gone in a completely different direction :lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Hey all I'm saying is don't present a story in a manner that looks like there's some agenda. Or else people are likely to think there's, well, an agenda. Which was pretty evident in the comments of that story there and on Twitter.
Regardless of the intentions, i don't think it helps.
What is it you think the agenda is?

Because if you actually read it without looking for some weird agenda, it's just a story of a person admitting they didn't take it seriously because it turns out she had a condition that made it nearly deadly for her, and she wants to warn other dumb/ignorant kids not to be like her.

But I wonder what you think the actual "agenda" is? It's an incredible short, easy to digest story so I am genuinely curious what it takes to find extra meaning.

[320icar]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9564104448/h460D738B/coconino-mohave-navajo-apache-yavapai-la-paz-gila-maricopa-graham-yuma-pinal-pima-greenien

[ssjGoku69]

She's 31?????! she looks 45

[welfare]

What is it you think the agenda is?

Because if you actually read it without looking for some weird agenda, it's just a story of a person admitting they didn't take it seriously because it turns out she had a condition that made it nearly deadly for her, and she wants to warn other dumb/ignorant kids not to be like her.

But I wonder what you think the actual "agenda" is? It's an incredible short, easy to digest story so I am genuinely curious what it takes to find extra meaning.

For the love of God.
I'm not saying there's an agenda behind the story, but it could certainly be viewed that way by some, and clearly was.
I mean ffs the video interview didn't even mention her tumor at all FailFish

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not saying there's an agenda behind the story

OK


but it could certainly be viewed that way by some

But not you though. SeemsGood

[welfare]

Oh one other thing; i think it's pretty retarded that the emphasis of the whole story was covid when she's got a friggin tumor in her chest.
I mean really? I don't know about anyone else here but i know if i got covid, at 31, and they found a tumor in my lungs, the covid isn't gonna be my first priority. Call me crazy.

https://bemorepanda.com/files/2020-03-21/images/322428.jpeg

[SkinnyPupp]

if i got covid, at 31, and they found a tumor in my lungs, the covid isn't gonna be my first priority[/IMG]

If you were at death's door unable to breathe on your own, covid is absolutely your first priority LUL

If you survive that, then you can deal with whatever the tumor is. Could be anything from a benign cyst, to cancer

[StylinRed]

My wife is a type one diabetic not much older than the woman, but thanks for pointing that out.



Yea. I get that. But you think they could have mentioned something like a tumor in her lungs a little more explicitly.
Rather than deceptively dropping it in the story, in a single sentence, at the end.

You think them blatantly editing that part of the story is a good idea?
That the segment of the population not taking it seriously aren't going to see that garbage and use it to assure themselves?
It's no wonder people don't trust these clowns in the media and then go off on their conspiracy tangents FailFish

The story was on cbc or global news when I first saw it, and half of the coverage was about how they found a tumour, and they showed the xrays of it as well, so she has another battle ahead of her, if the tumour isn't benign, and she's not completely recovered from her covid struggle

What got me is she's like "omgggggg I can't believe it.... but no I wouldn't have changed my summer" :rukidding:

[welfare]

If you were at death's door unable to breathe on your own, covid is absolutely your first priority LUL

If you survive that, then you can deal with whatever the tumor is. Could be anything from a benign cyst, to cancer

Do you know how many Canadians age 30-39 have died from covid?
16.
Looking at previous stats, that same age bracket, the number is probably 40-50 times that for cancer this year.

I'm not saying this thing isn't nasty if you get a severe case. I know of several people who've gotten it bad. But there are much more fatal and prevalent illnesses (like cancer) for people in that age group.

[SkinnyPupp]

Do you know how many Canadians age 30-39 have died from covid?
16.
Looking at previous stats, that same age bracket, the number is probably 40-50 times that for cancer this year.

I'm not saying this thing isn't nasty if you get a severe case. I know of several people who've gotten it bad. But there are much more fatal and prevalent illnesses (like cancer) for people in that age group.
Yes, and between covid and cancer, one can be mitigated by taking certain actions, and avoiding other activities. Also you can help prevent other people from getting it. And only one has the potential to rapidly spread across a population, overcrowding and shutting down hospitals in a bad enough scenario.

[CivicBlues]

I feel for her ordeal and wish her better health, but all the comments about her makeup honestly are kinda hilarious ngl.

Other interesting fact through google-fu, she claims to be a PHD candidate turned MLM pusher though:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alowefinances?originalSubdomain=ca FailFish

[StylinRed]

Sounds well educated, yet decided to go mlm, and ignore covid... Hmm

[CivicBlues]

Not only that, a PhD in a medical field no less

[hud 91gt]

Lol a friends mom sent me this. Pretty cute.

https://www.facebook.com/163344470934871/posts/694724041130242/?vh=e&extid=0

[inv4zn]

So I'm seeing more and more posts (poorly done memes, really) from retarded 'deniers' saying the death rate is very low, only x number of people have died, this is all a scam, blah blah.

But how is 'death by covid' defined? Is it if you were hospitalized due to covid, and died, it counts regardless of actual mechanism of death? If someone had a preexisting condition that was exacerbated by covid, does that still count? And I guess, are all provinces/states/countries etc using the same metric/criteria?

Like there are stats that say so many people died from car accidents in a year, but the actual cause of death could be blunt force trauma, internal bleeding, metal rod in the head, etc.

[westopher]

Death certificates have multiple methods of death listed if applicable. Either way, if you get pneumonia due to covid, you died from covid. The death certificate lists both. I don’t know where they decided that if you have cancer and you died in a car accident that it’s not the car accident that killed you because you were going to die from cancer anyways, but that’s the direction that argument goes.

[underscore]

The universal check should be the deaths/month/region compared to previous years, though even that will be a bit low as few people driving = fewer car accidents, etc. Of course the deniers just claim those numbers are fake so it's hard to get through to them.

Then of course there's all the people who are "recovered" but are still suffering the long term effects. It's not like death is the only potential negative outcome here.

[StylinRed]

203 in this past day, and an elementary school has an outbreak

[SumAznGuy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/instantkarma/comments/jfvoyj/woman_spits_at_someone_on_the_bus/

That's pretty disgusting that the lady spat on the guy.

[westopher]

Is there any context as to why she did that? Someone called her out for not wearing a mask? She should be charged with assault

[320icar]

She deserved the Leonidas kick to the chest

[chinook79]

similar shit happened to me.. just before COVID.. I took skytrain to work and some random dude spat on milk bottle and threw it on my direction. Called transit police, and they actually caught the guy who did it. Apparently he's known to police and it's not first time doing that. He is mentally unstable native. No charges were laid to him. I was taking sky train instead of driving to contribute to reduce congestion.. since then, fuck that shit.. it actually costs more to go on public transit than drive everyday (since I am paying for insurance and other stuff whether I decide to commute to work via transit or my car anyway, and cost of gas is cheaper than cost of transit fare)
Unfortunately, the world is full of crazy people. If cops were involved, if anything, they'd be more interested in charging poor guy who got span on during pandemic than the woman.

[Hondaracer]

Native? How dare you

[mikemhg]

That's insane. I wish someone would try that to me in public, the fun I would have with them, I envy your stories. my inner beast has been itching :)

Speaking of that Alison Lowe person, I somewhat agree with welfare on that one. It seems as though she's using this diagnosis as a bit of a PR stunt/marketing tool, perhaps not the best representation of a person you should be looking at for guidance on COVID.

I've lost track what people are even arguing about in this thread anymore.

[twitchyzero]

Alberta is trying out rapid testing at YYC and US border

https://torontosun.com/news/national/breaking-rapid-testing-at-airports-to-replace-mandatory-quarantine-for-international-travellers

[SkinnyPupp]

Alberta is trying out rapid testing at YYC and US border

https://torontosun.com/news/national/breaking-rapid-testing-at-airports-to-replace-mandatory-quarantine-for-international-travellers
I wonder how much it will cost? Hong Kong is doing something similar, making a travel bubble with Singapore. Travelers will have to take 4 tests and I think they said it's like $600 USD

Seems pretty reasonable doing something like that with Singapore.. Not sure I'd do it with the US though :heckno:

[ImportPsycho]

should've called the police and have her charged with assault.
but now she just walks away with some scratches.

[AzNightmare]

should've called the police and have her charged with assault.
but now she just walks away with some scratches.

The instant gratification seemed more worth it.

[hud 91gt]

This is big for my industry.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/breaking-rapid-testing-at-airports-to-replace-mandatory-quarantine-for-international-travellers

[twitchyzero]

gg 274 new cases today, needs more mega freedom rallies

when I was freaking out at 30 :lol

[JDMDreams]

Damn when is re shutdown

[StylinRed]

Vancouver city council wanted to make masks mandatory in civic offices/buildings but a group of anti maskers went to protest so council members voted against mandating, but instead to "encourage" masks

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/10/22/vancouver-council-votes-against-mandatory-masks/

Yikes

“Please consider our forefathers fought for our freedom, and if we release that choice, it’s the first step towards a dictatorship,” said one speaker.

“Masks are used as weapons and they have certainly been used as weapons against me and other to silence and marginalize us and it’s not fair,” said a woman.

“Vancouverites have been forced to wear masks on public transit, in grocery stores, and in mall. The number the people who have tested positive for COVID-19 has actually risen,” exclaimed another.

[SkinnyPupp]

Fucking idiots

[Spoon]

This is big for my industry.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/breaking-rapid-testing-at-airports-to-replace-mandatory-quarantine-for-international-travellers

What business is that? Medical, travel or the funeral business? :lol

[mikemhg]

My GF and I are planning a vacation to Mexico in January or February. We originally were trying to do the Philippines, but I doubt they'll be open by then.

If I'm quarantined on the way back, I'm fine, because I work from home. She's a nurse however, so it's a little more shitty for her.

Given that recent news, anyone believe we'll be back to a full on lockdown by January? I'd like to buy my plane tickets in the next month or so here and book my trip, but don't want to get fucked over.

[Expresso]

Thinking right now any air travel is a gamble. There's no way to predict the future. I tend to be on the cautious side though.

[Hondaracer]

I think everything outside of Canada will be the easy part. I’d wager you’ll have no issue from the Mexican side or departing Canada. It’s just going to be coming home that may cause issues. Maybe if they have testing on site by then it would streamline the process

[welfare]

My GF and I are planning a vacation to Mexico in January or February. We originally were trying to do the Philippines, but I doubt they'll be open by then.

If I'm quarantined on the way back, I'm fine, because I work from home. She's a nurse however, so it's a little more shitty for her.

Given that recent news, anyone believe we'll be back to a full on lockdown by January? I'd like to buy my plane tickets in the next month or so here and book my trip, but don't want to get fucked over.

I believe the government said 8 million rapid tests have been procured and will be ready by Christmas.
By February I should hope rapid testing will be available at all major Canadian airports.
I'd probably bet on it, tbh.

[welfare]

Sorry, I thought you were asking about quarantining. My bad.
Personally, I don't think we could afford a high level lockdown again. I doubt that'll be coming down the pike. JMO of course

[SkinnyPupp]

My GF and I are planning a vacation to Mexico in January or February. We originally were trying to do the Philippines, but I doubt they'll be open by then.

If I'm quarantined on the way back, I'm fine, because I work from home. She's a nurse however, so it's a little more shitty for her.

Given that recent news, anyone believe we'll be back to a full on lockdown by January? I'd like to buy my plane tickets in the next month or so here and book my trip, but don't want to get fucked over.
Making long term plans these days seems kind of pointless

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1319660104585797632

[Obsideon]

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122478806_10158981191048060_5539119352382987943_n. jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=H6w_r7QZQMIAX8oDFg_&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=581cc29e3d3065023abd5b53bf00e0ae&oe=5FB99D34

So who wants to carpool with me on the way down? :troll:

[corollagtSr5]

https://youtu.be/u47AkxZ5LEU

[JDMDreams]

Lol at least she was face planted

[quasi]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IubJ56w5C90

I mean she did deserve it.

[MG1]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IubJ56w5C90

Jesus......... why is the video preview frame stuck on the upskirt position. OR, is it MG1's computer? Gulolololol.

Yeah, I'm glad I don't take transit.

Hastings Street in Burnaby, right?


Oh, shit............. forgot. Oh, what the fuck. I'll rejoin this thread. I've self quarantined from this thread long enough.

[welfare]

Aren't masks now mandatory on transit?

[SpeedStars]

^ Mandatory but not enforceable :ahwow:

[GLOW]

looks like it got enforced there Kappa

[winson604]

Jesus......... why is the video preview frame stuck on the upskirt position. OR, is it MG1's computer? Gulolololol.

Yeah, I'm glad I don't take transit.

Hastings Street in Burnaby, right?


Oh, shit............. forgot. Oh, what the fuck. I'll rejoin this thread. I've self quarantined from this thread long enough.

Hastings @ Nanaimo

[mikemhg]

https://youtu.be/u47AkxZ5LEU

What's up with that stupid chick that got off the bus to help her saying "OMG what's wrong with you?!" to that guy?

Bitch, that woman just spat in that guy's face, what the hell do you expect?

God I hate people like that.

[BlackV62K2]

Assuming that woman that went out to help her didnt see the initial incident and only saw a guy push someone out the door. But if she saw the whole thing and still said that and helped the lady that spat on that guy, then she can go fuck herself as well.

[pastarocket]

Dr. Bonnie's Covid update for this past weekend mentions frightening numbers.

Number of new cases: 817.

Who thinks that Dr. Bonnie is going to ask Horgan and Dix soon to implement more restrictions in BC to bring down the curve?

[quasi]

Dr. Bonnie's Covid update for this past weekend mentions frightening numbers.

Number of new cases: 817.

Who thinks that Dr. Bonnie is going to ask Horgan and Dix soon to implement more restrictions in BC to bring down the curve?

I don't think they do anything unless hospitals can't keep up.

[pastarocket]

How are officers gonna enforce social bubbles in homes????

VICTORIA (NEWS 1130) — The new order limits gatherings in private homes to members of your immediate household, plus six others in your social bubble. The order comes after B.C. set a three-day record with 817 new COVID-19 cases over the past three days. Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said the immediate focus will be on the Fraser Health region, where most new cases are occurring. She also announced a new expectation for people to wear masks in public spaces.

[yray]

Most of the new cases were in the Fraser Health region (665) and Vancouver Coastal Health region (109).

[pastarocket]

Halloween is on a Saturday this year. It just so happens that Daylight Savings Time also ends on this weekend. We fall back one hour on Saturday night.

An extra hour for people to be at their Halloween parties or blow up more fireworks/fire crackers. More opportunities for Covid to spread in BC. :facepalm:

[JSALES]

Has anyone here tried flying to the US for non-essential travel? The border is closed at the land crossing for non-essential travel but Canadians are still allowed to fly into the US.

[StylinRed]

Geez I was expecting a high number for the weekend but not this high, I was thinking around 700

[westopher]

Halloween is on a Saturday this year. It just so happens that Daylight Savings Time also ends on this weekend. We fall back one hour on Saturday night.

An extra hour for people to be at their Halloween parties or blow up more fireworks/fire crackers. More opportunities for Covid to spread in BC. :facepalm:
DST is on a Saturday every year.
You're right though, it's going to be fucking bad. I got off work around midnight Friday and Saturday, and people were clearly going to/leaving parties as I drove through DT. I might be back peddling on my stance that they wouldn't be putting in place another lockdown.

[JDMDreams]

But they can't even pass the vote to have mandatory face masks in city of Vancouver buildings:rukidding::fulloffuck:

[spoon.ek9]

I don't know if it'll help anyone to know but I, as a healthcare worker, am also exhausted by the restrictions. Irregardless of how strictly everyone is still enforcing this on themselves, it's been an exhausting year either way. All I can say is, it's still better than having to revert back to a full lockdown. If things get as bad as they are in Ontario (and we're getting damn near close) there won't be a choice but to lockdown. Nobody wants that; whether you're liberal/conservative/denialist etc.

If everyone can just continue to be diligent it'll pay off. Delayed gratification is something lost on the current generation since they've been brought up a world where they're literally surrounded by instant gratification among other social problems.

To everyone who has stayed the course, thank you. I share in your struggle and hope you can dig deep and continue on even when it looks bleak.

[twitchyzero]

Ontario 1k
Quebec 800
BC 300

time to re-open the border