[StylinRed]

news agencies are reporting speculation that the exotic animal market stole animals from the government animal research facility nearby, which is like a cdc facility

these were rumours we always hear about, but for major news agencies to echo these is a bit new

[Mr.Money]

south korea is slowing being infected...


reports 15 more COVID-19 cases; total now at 46

news agencies are reporting speculation that the exotic animal market stole animals from the government animal research facility nearby, which is like a cdc facility

these were rumours we always hear about, but for major news agencies to echo these is a bit new

from the "28 days later" film?

[Ludepower]

My coworker who had a trip planned for Taiwan was given an ultimatum after fellow co workers told her to self quarantine herself with no pay for 2 weeks before returning to work or else theyll walk off. Workplace drama. She canceled her trip and lost money on hotels, etc.

[whitev70r]

^ sounded like a reasonable request of coworkers to have her self quarantine. Good solution in the end.

This is an example of the rights of an individual vs. the rights of the collective which many in a democracy doesn't understand.

[Mr.HappySilp]

My coworker who had a trip planned for Taiwan was given an ultimatum after fellow co workers told her to self quarantine herself with no pay for 2 weeks before returning to work or else theyll walk off. Workplace drama. She canceled her trip and lost money on hotels, etc.

Her co worker isn't wrong. She should self quarantine without being asked. My work sent an email saying anyone travel to China needs to self quarantine for 14 days. We can use our vacation days or sicks for it. If you ran out then it is no pay. I think is fair. Your co worker needs to think what would happen if she caught the virus and spread to the work place.

[SkinnyPupp]

She was going to Taiwan, not China. There's not a huge breakout there. There's one cluster that keeps hitting people, but it's mostly been within one family, and is away from Taipei.

If someone told her coworkers this, and they still insisted, then they aren't being reasonable. If you're supporting this, you're just supporting the spread of misinformation and hysteria.

And that's coming from ME, you guys have seen how seriously I've been taking this.

[whitev70r]

^ I see you are one of those who don't quite understand.

[SkinnyPupp]

^ I see you are one of those who don't quite understand.
No I DO understand, that's why I know it's wrong of them.

If I did NOT understand, then I would be in agreement with you.

[Mr.HappySilp]

She was going to Taiwan, not China. There's not a huge breakout there. There's one cluster that keeps hitting people, but it's mostly been within one family, and is away from Taipei.

If someone told her coworkers this, and they still insisted, then they aren't being reasonable. If you're supporting this, you're just supporting the spread of misinformation and hysteria.

And that's coming from ME, you guys have seen how seriously I've been taking this.

Taiwan is part of China though. Some countries (other than China) agree to this IE Italy when they Ban Chinese from China from entering they also ban Taiwanese because according Italy Taiwan is part of China. Also a lot of airlines have listed Taiwan as part of China IE Air Canada. Do I feel Taiwan is part of China. Nope. But some people/country/company do.

[320icar]

Ok let’s keep THAT topic out of this thread please

[SkunkWorks]

Ok let’s keep THAT topic out of this thread please

So... We sending badhobz back to China yet?

[bcedhk]

So... We sending badhobz back to China yet?

badhobz "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0AiurM-Xgs

[Hondaracer]

My dad and his buddies going to Thailand Cambodia and Vietnam next week, via Manila however. Will be interesting to see what happens

[Mr.HappySilp]

My dad and his buddies going to Thailand Cambodia and Vietnam next week, via Manila however. Will be interesting to see what happens

It will be fine. Honestly outside is China is pretty safe (even HK).

[CorneringArtist]

My dad and his buddies going to Thailand Cambodia and Vietnam next week, via Manila however. Will be interesting to see what happens

35 confirmed in Thailand, half already out of the hospital. 3 confirmed in Philippines, 1 died, two already out of the hospital, all Chinese nationals.

Apparently Thailand has been tinkering with HIV retrovirals with some success, and Japan is putting them into clinical trial.

[Hondaracer]

35 confirmed in Thailand, half already out of the hospital. 3 confirmed in Philippines, 1 died, two already out of the hospital, all Chinese nationals.

Apparently Thailand has been tinkering with HIV retrovirals with some success, and Japan is putting them into clinical trial.

A buddy of theirs lives half the year in Thailand and travels around SEA to do inspections etc.

He said 95+% of people in the airports are wearing masks and they look at you as the oddball without it. Told my dad might as well not wear one because everyone is trapping all their own germs in their N95’s Kappa

[6793026]

My coworker who had a trip planned for Taiwan was given an ultimatum after fellow co workers told her to self quarantine herself with no pay for 2 weeks before returning to work or else theyll walk off. Workplace drama. She canceled her trip and lost money on hotels, etc.

I would go ape shit on the company. There is no Canadian law stating mandatory quarantine. If this is something your company is enforcing, call up worksafe. This is something your company is imposing and you better let me work from home.

If you had a client from Taiwan flying into Vancouver, are you going to say F U, sorry, we can't do business with you until you quarantine yourself... ... total BS.

[Mikoyan]

Turns out a guy I knew from college, his parents are on the Diamond Princess in Japan. As of a couple days ago, they're not infected, but I guess their vacation's continuing in Cornwall for another 2 week quarantine.

[twitchyzero]

your coworkers have a right to a safe workplace...don't be that guy
we're gonna ask our colleague to consider staying home after returning from japan

taiwan now has 2 dozen cases and its 2nd case of unknown origin (they've identified 360 people she's come in contact with)
they're taking it very seriously but still not contained yet
honestly i wouldnt even wanna hang around yvr's international terminal these days
and yes i've cancelled my family's taiwan trip that was supposed to start in a fortnight

[whitev70r]

^ This.

Taiwan reports first death from coronavirus
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/16/taiwan-reports-first-death-from-coronavirus

A taxi driver has died from the coronavirus in Taiwan, marking the first such death on the island and the fifth fatality outside mainland China from an epidemic that has curbed travel and disrupted global supply chains.

The man who died had not travelled abroad recently and was a taxi driver whose clients were mainly from Hong Kong, Macau and mainland China, the minister said. One of his family members was also confirmed to have the virus.

[StylinRed]

Looks like hysteria is hitting the fan here too eh...

[Rallydrv]

I would go ape shit on the company. There is no Canadian law stating mandatory quarantine. If this is something your company is enforcing, call up worksafe. This is something your company is imposing and you better let me work from home.

If you had a client from Taiwan flying into Vancouver, are you going to say F U, sorry, we can't do business with you until you quarantine yourself... ... total BS.

worksafe can't do anything in this matter as it only deals w/ injuries and making work environment safer (its a grievance against the company, so human rights tribunal, maybe). frankly, take the fact out that its ur friend, as a head of the company (or coworker) i wouldn't want to deal with someone potentially bringing in virus from outside, and sending everybody else in dept they work (or potentially whole ) office home to quarantine. they are cases here that it happened.

Besides i would cancel my own vacation cause they are chances of picking this up in asia. not only on the ground but by travelling in a closed tube for 9-10 hours.

and yes, i have worked in healthcare industry for last 10 years

[6793026]

worksafe can't do anything in this matter as it only deals w/ injuries and making work environment safer. frankly, take the fact out that its ur friend, as a head of the company (or coworker) i wouldn't want to deal with someone bringing in virus from outside, and sending everybody else in dept they work (or potentially whole ) office home to quarantine. they are cases here that it happened.


There is some truth to your statement as it's only health and injuries. If there is a sexual assault, wages miscalculation, harassment, and discriminatory issues, they are there to help. You can actually submit a claim because due the CONVID situation, they are refusing to pay you which is refusal of payment.

On a separate note.
Shop owner "Owner is heart broken, deals for everyone" which in fact means.... they are over stocked....
Just yesterday, they were selling 2 for $80
https://i.ibb.co/d65Xtk5/1.png

Normally this wouldn't matter in Vancouver, but in HK, when humidity kicks in...
https://i.ibb.co/KwX7dYQ/2.png

[Mr.HappySilp]

I would go ape shit on the company. There is no Canadian law stating mandatory quarantine. If this is something your company is enforcing, call up worksafe. This is something your company is imposing and you better let me work from home.

If you had a client from Taiwan flying into Vancouver, are you going to say F U, sorry, we can't do business with you until you quarantine yourself... ... total BS.

That's what my friend did (he is a immigration consultant)and he clearly stated on his wechat and social media he is not accepting any new case at least till march. Currently case he is working on clients can call or video chat but if they need to see him they can but have to let him know in advance. So is not BS.

You can call worksafe if you like about it but try putting yourself in your friend's manager shoe would you rather have one person self quarantine for 14 days or would you rather have the whole office complain and possible walk out of work (job action). Would you rather risk the part of the office/whole office getting infected? Let's just say your friend refuse to self quarantine and still goes to work how do you think her co worker will act? Do you think they will still want to work with her? Rat on her maybe as soon as she did something wrong, give her the cold stare. How would she survive at her work when most of her co workers refuse to work with her? She is not going to have a fun time at all.

Beside she is the one who decides to travel. No one forces her to. When my company stated that anyone traveling to China we will have to self quarantine for 14 days using my own vacation or sick days and if I have none then is no pay I am fine with it. I was planning to travel back to China in March (Not anymore flight got cancel). I 100% is willing to stay home for 14 after I come back with no pay. Is my choice to travel back and I don't want to spread the coronavirus to anyone at work if I do get it. It is also a respect to my co workers.

[whitev70r]

You have a lot of wisdom MrHappyslip. Some people can only go apeshit and think about what is 'legal' but you obviously have experience working with real life situations and people.

[bcedhk]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3051553/coronavirus-hong-kong-government-extends-work

...what goes around, comes around.

HK cop contracts virus, has all the symptoms (fever, coughing) and STILL decides to go to a police dinner function with over 60 people. (head honcho and Rupert Dover was there too).

People are laughing and also scalding at them because they were the ones that told rioters to not be in social gatherings.

[nah]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3051553/coronavirus-hong-kong-government-extends-work

...what goes around, comes around.

HK cop contracts virus, has all the symptoms (fever, coughing) and STILL decides to go to a police dinner function with over 60 people. (head honcho and Rupert Dover was there too).

People are laughing and also scalding at them because they were the ones that told rioters to not be in social gatherings.

That is karma at work...

[JDMDreams]

I wonder if this is the same banquet that was posted a few days ago on FB about black police with tvb people?

[bcedhk]

I wonder if this is the same banquet that was posted a few days ago on FB about black police with tvb people?

nope different one. This new one was for a retirement party with officers only. High chance other officers will be spreading it because banquet dinner = at least 10 people sharing plates of food/spit with each other.

[SkinnyPupp]

I wonder if this is the same banquet that was posted a few days ago on FB about black police with tvb people?
It's not, unfortunately. People have checked. Imagine the justice boner people would have if Jackie Chan got the virus LUL

https://twitter.com/ezracheungtoto/status/1230529032816447488

People are popping champagne in front of police stations, in reference to a cop telling protesters they were celebrating a student protester death by popping champagne back in November.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/GeorgieSmyth/status/1230670351807369217

[StylinRed]

South Korea is up to 150+ infected about half of them are from some cult

Iran has new cases as well as 2 deaths, they've only confirmed 5 cases, seems like the city of Qom is where it hit

[eclipseman]

https://twitter.com/GeorgieSmyth/status/1230670351807369217

Iran having 2 people die yesterday and another 3 infected is pretty big news. They were denying any cases up until the two died yesterday.

It also means it's been spreading since at least January, if the woman has it here in BC.

[eclipseman]

Oh...and how dumb is the US government here?

https://nypost.com/2020/02/20/coronavirus-infected-americans-flown-back-to-us-on-plane-full-of-healthy-people/

The 14 coronavirus-stricken Americans evacuated from a cruise ship in Japan were flown back to the US on a plane full of healthy people against advice from the CDC, a report said Thursday.

[DaJo]

"Japan says 2 former cruise ship passengers died from virus, Japan now has three deaths linked to the COVID-19 illness."

https://www.kron4.com/health/coronavirus/japan-says-2-former-cruise-ship-passengers-died-from-virus/

[StylinRed]

The cult in Korea says 400 of its members are experiencing corona symptoms but have yet to be tested for the virus. Daegu, and Cheongdo cities are under quarantine now
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51582186

[SkinnyPupp]

Well since their leader is the second coming of Christ, he should be able to just heal them all, right? :considered:

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/burnabys-crystal-mall-vendors-say-coronavirus-rumours-dropped-revenues-by-80-2110871

telling media, mall is perfectly safe.

but wears mask....hahahaha


I was at metro town over the long weekends, packed as usual, nobody wearing mask

[Hondaracer]

The dumb leading the dumb.

[spoon.ek9]

wearing a mask during food prep isn't exactly unheard of.

[Amuse]

https://twitter.com/HeungGongGirl/status/1228736894487236610

[donk.]

the paranoya around this virus is halarious

people whining others not wearing masks, then they eat in a restaurant with it off for half an hour

the only way you are going to stay safe is staying home until its cured, eating your 40kg bag of rice. Oh wait, you probably already shook hands with someone that has the virus 2 weeks ago, then picked out that booger

more likely to get killed in a car accident, from the seasonal flu, or that healthy big mac your wife doesnt know you get for lunch everyday.

Been to taiwan, china, thailand, vietnam, japan, signapore since december, no mask. Go live life people.

PS: vietnam is dump.

[SkinnyPupp]

So Japan sent about 90 people onboard that cruise ship for testing, etc, but didn't test anyone after they got off the ship. Their reason is that "if they tested them and found too many tested positive, there would be no way to get all the work done" (really this is the most Japanese thing I have ever heard)

So now they have 90 people who were exposed to this INSANELY contagious virus, and haven't quarantined or tested them.

So far 4 of them that did get sick have tested positive

[StylinRed]

Italy Lebanon Israel Korea Iran all reporting more cases death in Italy too

Prisons in China have it somehow

The spread is beginning dun dun dunnnnn

Donk. I've traveled too but just because we didn't catch it doesn't mean we should be irresponsible and tell people to maintain high levels of transit, that's how these things spread. Even countries are telling ppl to keep travel down or not at all depending on the location, to snub Ur nose at it is just juvenile

[Badhobz]

So how did the guys in Iran get it !? I still don't understand that one. News isn't even reporting it.

[Mr.HappySilp]

So how did the guys in Iran get it !? I still don't understand that one. News isn't even reporting it.

According to wife and the in laws. Iran have a lot of students studying in Beijing. Wife actually showed me a medical school where people from Iran studied.

[Rallydrv]

Anywhere u have public gathering.. Virus will multiply. Religious or otherwise. Ie mosque and churches.

And wow guess what Aberdeen mall is holding a public gathering about the virus. Nice

[Ch28]

the paranoya around this virus is halarious

Jesus christ

[RRxtar]

So it's understood the incubation period may be 28 days now

Japan let people off the ship after 14 days that didnt test positive on day 10 after strong urging from health officials. And now some of them are testing positive after being back out in the public. After a significant number of people on the ship have been confirmed infected.

To reference a post above "how dumb is the Japanese government here"

[JDM GTO]

So Japan sent about 90 people onboard that cruise ship for testing, etc, but didn't test anyone after they got off the ship. Their reason is that "if they tested them and found too many tested positive, there would be no way to get all the work done" (really this is the most Japanese thing I have ever heard)

So now they have 90 people who were exposed to this INSANELY contagious virus, and haven't quarantined or tested them.

So far 4 of them that did get sick have tested positive

The people that could disembark the ship since they were “quarantined”, were also able to leave via public transportation. Well, a Japanese woman has tested positive for the virus after disembarking....

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200223_02/

[SkinnyPupp]

Japan may have seriously fucked things over, especially the chance at having the Olympics go as planned

CDC has increased their travel alert for Japan to level 2 (elderly and at-risk not to go unless absolutely necessary)

[CorneringArtist]

Italian soccer top flight has cancelled three Sunday games in the affected regions over the spread there. Japanese league is mulling over postponing until things improve.

[Badhobz]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/italian-towns-on-lockdown-after-2-virus-deaths-clusters-1.4823230

Old man in northern Italy just died from it. No direct linkage to China so this bastard is spreading like the normal flu now. Ruhhhhh oooohhhhh

[StylinRed]

Well yeah with the delay China had in stopping this, and the fact the rest of the world didn't really take it seriously, even after knowing it spreads easily, hope for containment went out the door

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/02/health-officials-expect-coronavirus-to-spread-worldwide/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%2520Gazette%252020200221%2520%2 81%29

[whitev70r]

Coronavirus outbreak edges closer to pandemic (Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-edges-closer-to-pandemic/2020/02/21/03afafc0-5429-11ea-9e47-59804be1dcfb_story.html

[Alpine]

It's likely this is just the start and we could be battling the Coronavirus well into 2021. Stock up all before Vancouver is shut down.

[MG1]

https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/apparel-and-safety-gear/respirators-and-dust-masks/74167-elipse-low-profile-dust-respirator

Lee Valley, the store that sells useless, over priced items to yuppies............. gulolol.

They still have them in store (Coquitlam location). Sold out everywhere else and on-line.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/factsheets/respsars.html

I purchase one with extra filters. They are really comfortable. Low profile and very light. I can now airspray my models with ease. Have to wait until it gets warmer, though. I'm too cheap to heat up the rape dungeon and fire up the spray booth. Poor results and extended drying time. Nope.


EDIT: I lied. Burlington, Edmonton, and Kelowna locations have limited stock at the moment.............

[welfare]

I know they're trying to keep panic levels reduced, but telling people that testing/assessment is not recommended for people who've been in contact with this most recent case seems to cross that line into irresponsibility.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/02/22/maple-ridge-pitt-meadows-parents-warned-people-with-contact-to-covid-19-may-have-attended-school/

[MG1]

On a side note, flu season is here and there's no better timing than Costco having a sale on ColdFX. This week only.......... shit, I think the sale ends today. It's good for two years, so I'm gonna git me some today!

It helps build your immune system to fight off flu. It's too late if you have flu, but prevention is key. As a senior and a diabetic, I get free flu shots, but I have yet to get it. Damn, maybe I should............

[EmperorIS]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/passenger-aboard-air-canada-flight-to-vancouver-from-montreal-tests-positive-for-covid-19-1.5473283

Air Canada has confirmed that a passenger aboard one of its flights from Montreal to Vancouver on Valentine's Day has tested positive for the novel coronavirus, COVID-19.

[whitev70r]

I found out that ColdFX ingredient is primarily Ginseng. Looks like my mother-in-law was right all along. You can get pure form of Canadian Ginseng from Jamieson for cheaper.

[Hondaracer]

If you believe that coldFX actually works.

[StylinRed]

Coldfx is a scam, thought everyone knew already

[Hondaracer]

I’ve rarely gotten colds and flus my entire life but in the last 3-4 years I haven’t been sick once

While it’s not a closed experiment really I chalk it up to completely stopping taking any sort of oral painkiller, anti inflammatory etc. Tylenol, Advil, etc.

All that shit fucks with your gut biome and as a result makes you more susceptible to bad bacteria and germs, I’ve seen a marked improvement in even short term runny noses etc since I stopped all that stuff

[whitev70r]

If you believe that coldFX actually works.

Coldfx is a scam, thought everyone knew already

I believe Ginseng works to build up immunity and is probably good for other things. I believe ColdFX is way overpriced.

[StylinRed]

Is it really ginseng tho? It's some extract of it ehhh..

https://nationalpost.com/health/class-action-lawsuit-reveals-company-sat-on-2004-study-indicating-cold-fx-does-nothing-to-fight-colds

[whitev70r]

^ That's why I just get the pure Ginseng from Jamieson or other brands. Forget the filler that ColdFX puts in and charge twice as much.

[SkinnyPupp]

I thought about immunity boosters as well. There are several substances that can increase immunity. However this shit is super virulent with an R0 between 3.11-4.08 (swine flu pandemic had 1.46, really nasty flus can be a 2 or 3 in densely populated areas)

No amount of immunity boosters will prevent you from getting COVID-19 if the virus comes into contact with your eyes or mouth. I suppose it doesn't hurt anything but your wallet if you take it though... Don't count on it though, be sure to take other precautions, especially washing your hands regularly.

[StylinRed]

Garlic, ginger, ginseng, turmeric, chilli peppers, etc just increase all those in your diet, exercise, clean, clean, clean, and fingers crossed

[Ch28]

On a side note, flu season is here and there's no better timing than Costco having a sale on ColdFX. This week only.......... shit, I think the sale ends today. It's good for two years, so I'm gonna git me some today!

It helps build your immune system to fight off flu. It's too late if you have flu, but prevention is key. As a senior and a diabetic, I get free flu shots, but I have yet to get it. Damn, maybe I should............

https://nationalpost.com/health/class-action-lawsuit-reveals-company-sat-on-2004-study-indicating-cold-fx-does-nothing-to-fight-colds

[SkinnyPupp]

If you're young and healthy: Astralagus

If you're old and not the best diet: Astralagus + Vitamin E

Also probiotics. EVERYONE should be taking this unless your diet is perfect.

[!LittleDragon]

I believe Ginseng works to build up immunity and is probably good for other things. I believe ColdFX is way overpriced.

That's not how the immune system works. You can't boost it, only train it. For it to know how to fight something, it would need to have been exposed to it at one point. There are people out there with boosted immune systems but unfortunately they have conditions like psoriasis or crohn's disease which are caused by the immune system being unbalanced.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4227

or in plain english... lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo

[unit]

If you believe that coldFX actually works.

one of the things i hate about don cherry was how much he defended this product because they paid him to. obvious snake oil

[StylinRed]

https://youtu.be/LRgGrR1pVxA

50 deaths in Iran oO

[Hondaracer]

So turns out my dads flight to SEA connects through Seoul, so will be interesting to see whether it gets cancelled or not. He leaves on Thursday

[6793026]

Everyone has their worries about Olympics right now. It's such a hush hush topic right now. I don't blame them. Trillion of dollars globally. One can't pull the plug on it just yet.

Back in SARS, it lasted a solid 2 months before it blew over, ending roughly 6 month's time. We still have 5 months exactly until Olympics starts.

Will they pasue Olympics (like they did back in WWI and WWII), will countries not participate? If China can't go into Tokyo (which i can't see the travel ban being this long) but man... or if China, russia, won't send atheletes to compete... man..

It starts Friday, July 24 and ends on Sunday, August 9, BTW

[BIC_BAWS]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6588231/chinese-swat-team-coronavirus-video/

LOL wtf "chinese SWAT" practicing how to take down uncooperative infected people.

[twitchyzero]

considering there are supposedly infected who are pulling masks off police officers/healthcare workers...this drill isn't sucha bad idea

[Rallydrv]

lol if usa they would have shot first.

[buhdeh]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/24/21151404/china-wechat-twitter-coronavirus-critics-protest-information-share

Lol China

[SkinnyPupp]

Everyone has their worries about Olympics right now. It's such a hush hush topic right now. I don't blame them. Trillion of dollars globally. One can't pull the plug on it just yet.

Back in SARS, it lasted a solid 2 months before it blew over, ending roughly 6 month's time. We still have 5 months exactly until Olympics starts.

Will they pasue Olympics (like they did back in WWI and WWII), will countries not participate? If China can't go into Tokyo (which i can't see the travel ban being this long) but man... or if China, russia, won't send atheletes to compete... man..

It starts Friday, July 24 and ends on Sunday, August 9, BTW
This is so much worse than SARS, you can't really compare. The closest thing to this that we know about is the Spanish Flu 100 years ago. That one infected 500 million people (27% of the population), lasting 2 years. With the population being much higher, and more dense, we could have 1-2 billion infected by the time this "blows over" with around 2% of those dying (20 million)

I think we'll probably have a vaccine by 2 years, but definitely not by 5 months.

By the time the Olympics start, there could be several cities around the world on lockdown, with nobody able to enter or leave. Italy has locked down several small downs. Korea is already considering doing it in Daegu after infections quadrupled over the weekend.

Sports will be the last thing on our minds 5 months from now. Everyone complaining about things like Sony pulling out of gaming exhibitions will look pretty silly. Especially with the Mayor of Boston essentially calling them racist against Asians (yeah what?) for doing so.

[punkwax]

I’m currently at a sales conference in Mexico and they blocked our Italian colleagues from entering and sent them back home. :badpokerface:

I did not want to travel myself and almost asked if I could skip it.. not really optional though.

[Hondaracer]

So my dads return trip from SEA through Seoul in 3 weeks just got cancelled..

The flight there hasn’t been yet but they may be forced to cancel trip Tom and they were suppose to leave on Thursday

[6793026]

https://youtu.be/N-xQLlNftXQ

Lots of music regarding Wuhan and keeping the spirits alive; GEM, as we all know is this singer, she came up with this MTV, she wrote the lyrics & did the music herself.

G.E.M.鄧紫棋【平凡天使 Angels】"Ordinary Angels" as translated.
Not an epic video but with clips of videos on line; the 1:28 mark; shown with mother standing 30 feet away seeing the daughter + husband crying.... Daughter drops off dumplings, looking at each other..eye to eye.. balling...
Each of them giving each other an "air hug"....

0:28 guy runs in to police station, just drops off a bunch of mask and just runs away.
"since Chinese New Year, they have been working 7 days straight"

I respect front line workers all day long..... you are the ones risking your life, during whatever type of diseases thrown your way, I sautle you all.

NOT trying to sucker punch... but this maybe one of the reasons why the strike of the HK nursing union failed in getting enough votes for a strike.

People's sense of honor, pride, and calling of the role of nursing / doctors / health care workers have a stronger sense of doing the right thing than just "walking away".

I bet a high percentage of health care workers are not equipped than any Western hospitals in Wuhan, but man, their grit to continue to fight.. makes me proud of the medial field workers.

[UnknownJinX]

This is so much worse than SARS, you can't really compare. The closest thing to this that we know about is the Spanish Flu 100 years ago. That one infected 500 million people (27% of the population), lasting 2 years. With the population being much higher, and more dense, we could have 1-2 billion infected by the time this "blows over" with around 2% of those dying (20 million)

I think we'll probably have a vaccine by 2 years, but definitely not by 5 months.

By the time the Olympics start, there could be several cities around the world on lockdown, with nobody able to enter or leave. Italy has locked down several small downs. Korea is already considering doing it in Daegu after infections quadrupled over the weekend.

Sports will be the last thing on our minds 5 months from now. Everyone complaining about things like Sony pulling out of gaming exhibitions will look pretty silly. Especially with the Mayor of Boston essentially calling them racist against Asians (yeah what?) for doing so.

I think it's probably somewhere in between Spanish Flu and SARS, probably closer to SARS.

Trying to compare the medical treatment 100 years ago to what we have nowadays is silly. That was literally after WWI where a lot of infrastructure got destroyed and I wouldn't doubt a lot of people back then were already ill or malnutritioned, which didn't help the case.

It's not a pandemic yet, no need to blow it out of proportion. You are thinking of the worst case scenario.

I am looking at the more positive estimates because this is not 100 years ago, simple as that. SARS is at least not that long ago so some conditions are more comparable.

I also have read an interesting point of view on my company's website article on the issue. One of the employees mentioned that the media does a lot of fear mongering because that sells the story. Makes sense to me, since the media does that a lot with everything, so you can't really take what media is telling you 100%.

[Badhobz]

Some co workers are already buying up shit like it’s the coming apocalypse. This guy in the office hoarded 10 bags of rice and a shit load of water. He said if it comes to Vancouver he ain’t leaving the house lawl.

[Hondaracer]

So my dads return trip from SEA through Seoul in 3 weeks just got cancelled..

The flight there hasn’t been yet but they may be forced to cancel trip Tom and they were suppose to leave on Thursday

So to update this they changed their flight to fly through HK.. which seems like it would be worse but it’s still a go

[SkinnyPupp]

I think it's probably somewhere in between Spanish Flu and SARS, probably closer to SARS.

Trying to compare the medical treatment 100 years ago to what we have nowadays is silly. That was literally after WWI where a lot of infrastructure got destroyed and I wouldn't doubt a lot of people back then were already ill or malnutritioned, which didn't help the case.

It's not a pandemic yet, no need to blow it out of proportion. You are thinking of the worst case scenario.

I am looking at the more positive estimates because this is not 100 years ago, simple as that. SARS is at least not that long ago so some conditions are more comparable.

I also have read an interesting point of view on my company's website article on the issue. One of the employees mentioned that the media does a lot of fear mongering because that sells the story. Makes sense to me, since the media does that a lot with everything, so you can't really take what media is telling you 100%.
Medical treatment will certainly help the recovery rate, but that's irrelevant to what makes it a pandemic. What matters is the replication rate, which is why this shit is spreading to fast. Even WITH improved hygiene and awareness and travel bans, this virus still has a higher replication rate than Spanish Flu. We also have a much higher population and way more rapid travel which makes it much easier to spread.

Well some of us have better hygiene than others... I still see people refusing to take this seriously, which means a lot more people are going to get it than necessary.

Also it's not a matter of if this will become a pandemic, but when. WHO say they are in the preparation stage for calling it a pandemic now. BTW since I posted that, Spain got 6 new cases.

You shouldn't compare COVID-19 to SARS because although they have similar causes, the diseases are quite different. That fact that SARS is more deadly and made you more sick is what helped contain it. It basically killed itself out, along with our ability to quickly identify people who had it. With COVID-19, you could be sick and literally have zero symptoms, or something mild like a cough. Sure that sounds great, but guess what, you're spreading it to 5 other people, some of whom WILL get very sick and possibly die. This really is the worst kind of disease to be a pandemic.

If you're looking for someone blowing this out or proportion, don't point your finger at me. I am not relying on overzealous media, I am just looking at figures and statistics and actual happenings in the news. When I say Italy has the third highest number of infections in the world, in an area not necessarily popular with Chinese travelers, I'm not making it up to be a sensational story. I am saying it's becoming a pandemic.

What's kind of annoying is that if this does get contained and controlled before it becomes too huge, people will act like it never was a big deal. I guess it doesn't matter, but will make me go :fulloffuck: and try my best to ignore it lol

[Mikoyan]

TLDR: Iranian Deputy Health Minister tests positive after sweating, coughing and looking like crap at a press conference.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51628484

"I had a fever as of last night and my preliminary test was positive around midnight," Mr Harirchi said in a video released on Tuesday.

"I've isolated myself in a place since... and now I am starting medication.

"We will definitely be victorious against this virus in the next few weeks," the minister added.

Mr Harirchi's positive test for Covid-19 was announced a day after he took part in a news conference, where he coughed occasionally and appeared to sweat heavily.

During the briefing, the minister denied a claim by a member of parliament for Qom - the centre of the outbreak - that the authorities were engaged in a cover-up.

[Rallydrv]

lol what a nutjob ^


now its just a matter of time, no way to stop spread.

Some co workers are already buying up shit like it’s the coming apocalypse.

As your coworkers thr home address. :lol

[eclipseman]

Some co workers are already buying up shit like it’s the coming apocalypse. This guy in the office hoarded 10 bags of rice and a shit load of water. He said if it comes to Vancouver he ain’t leaving the house lawl.

While 10 bags of rice is a bit excessive, no reason not to prepare...all the movies you see are exactly how people are behaving.

You certainly don't want to be panic buying food when everyone else is...

[CorneringArtist]

Chinese State Media Slam Korea's Handling of Coronavirus - The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - National/Politics > Politics (http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/02/25/2020022502537.html)

Chinese state media criticizes Korea and Japan for their handling of containment. What irony that they're spewing bullshit when their country is ground zero.


China's state media are criticizing Korea's "slow" response to surging coronavirus infections even as the world's most populous country has become a global pariah for lying about and mishandling the disease that originated there.

The English-language Global Times in an editorial on Monday chided Japan, Korea, Iran and Italy by saying, "It is worrisome that the prevention and control measures adopted by the above-mentioned countries might be insufficient."

Instead, the paper hailed China's catastrophic mishandling of the outbreak as a vast achievement for the regime. "Fortunately, China has a huge medical system and can quickly mobilize over 40,000 medical staff to support Wuhan and Hubei," the epicenter of the outbreak, which have gone into disastrous lockdown.

"If a second epicenter like Wuhan were to emerge in another country, it is difficult to imagine that such massive assistance could be mobilized," it added.


The propaganda machine seems desperate to find some other scapegoat to deflect growing anger within the country at the regime's handling of the outbreak.

China's No. 1 mobile news app Jinri Toutiao complained that China was left to deal with the outbreak "without preparations" while Korea "copied" China's response measures. But the two produced "contrasting" outcomes, it said.

Jinri Toutiao said Korea's response was "slow" because it did not lock down any cities but seemed to imply that China has the virus successfully under control due to its prompt measures.

[twitchyzero]

coworker's 10 day trip to asia now means cant return to work for a month

[MG1]

I believe Ginseng works to build up immunity and is probably good for other things. I believe ColdFX is way overpriced.

I don't know about the effectiveness of ginseng, but I believe in radishes........

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/RS%20Bull/Roshi.jpeg

Daikon O' Roshi

[spoon.ek9]

Chinese State Media Slam Korea's Handling of Coronavirus - The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - National/Politics > Politics (http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/02/25/2020022502537.html)

Chinese state media criticizes Korea and Japan for their handling of containment. What irony that they're spewing bullshit when their country is ground zero.

shit like this is why no one respects that government.

[RRxtar]

How about the WHO saying there wasn't anything to worry about and saying travel bans were unnecessary. Now they're getting ready to call it what it really looks like it's going to be. Big miss there.

[DavidNguyen]

I suspect WHO was paid to down play it.

[SkinnyPupp]

WHO only makes statements on things as of the moment they are made. They aren't allowed to speculate, even if it's kind of obvious to people who CAN say things.

As for China that brings up an interesting point of where the country is going. Over the years I've been noticing that they are shutting themselves away from the rest of the world more and more, becoming weirder and more authoritarian while basically shitting on everyone publicly who pisses them off in any minor way. Other countries have been responding by backing away from them bit by bit. You wouldn't notice it immediately, except this virus has really accelerated the separation. Manufacturing lines are being moved out of China and dispersed around the world. IMO this all would have happened anyway, but over the course of like 10 years, not a single month.

It's going to be absolutely insane times for China even if this virus is 100% effectively cured and eliminated. Their people aren't taking kindly to how they handled things, and there are some pretty major leaks high up in the government letting everyone know how bad things actually are up top.

[Teriyaki]

While I am no apologist for the PRC, they have some basis for calling out other countries for being slow to respond. The measures they took to try to contain, and if not try to slow down the spread (once past that head in the sand initial denial period) were nothing short of extraordinary.

Compared with the response the rest of the world, they are right that no other country or government would have been able to put in that vast amount of resources, that quickly. How effective it has been is another topic altogether but atleast they did "something"...

I'm not sure what containment measures Korea took, but I can say with confidence that Japan has done shit all twiddling their thumbs for the past 2 months.

On another topic altogether, anyone re-looking at their investment portfolio? This virus is going to hit the world supply chain real hard and Q1 and Q2 numbers are not going to be pretty.

[Rallydrv]

^Yeh Well not everybody can weld door shut of apartment buildings or be communist like China.






Well Then again..maybe best Korea.

[asian_XL]

worst experience dealing with Korean and Gmarket.

Paid on 30 Jan and said the masks will be shipped on 20 Feb. Sent 10+ email with no response, then today all the orders are cancelled.

[SkinnyPupp]

The masks we ordered from Japan right when the outbreak in Wuhan started have just arrived today. $50 per box! SeemsGood

If you can't get masks seriously let me know

[Teriyaki]

^Yeh Well not everybody can weld door shut of apartment buildings or be communist like China.






Well Then again..maybe best Korea.

Best Korea might be the only country left in worst case scenario :concentrate:

[Teriyaki]

The masks we ordered from Japan right when the outbreak in Wuhan started have just arrived today. $50 per box! SeemsGood

If you can't get masks seriously let me know

Your seller still got supply? Doubt it but doesn't hurt to ask I guess. Got like a week left between myself and partnerWutFace

[SkinnyPupp]

Your seller still got supply? Doubt it but doesn't hurt to ask I guess. Got like a week left between myself and partnerWutFace
No way, we got lucky that we know someone extra paranoid who was going to order a bunch anyway, and asked if we wanted to add to the order. We got the order in at the last second. Same for the Vogmasks I ordered, they sold out right after I ordered.

Are you guys in Hong Kong?

[Teriyaki]

The masks we ordered from Japan right when the outbreak in Wuhan started have just arrived today. $50 per box! SeemsGood

If you can't get masks seriously let me know

No way, we got lucky that we know someone extra paranoid who was going to order a bunch anyway, and asked if we wanted to add to the order. We got the order in at the last second. Same for the Vogmasks I ordered, they sold out right after I ordered.

Are you guys in Hong Kong?

Thats pretty lucky. Nope, we're over in Tokyo. Gas Masks are still available on Amazon, but think that'd be overdoing it a bit here in Japan. Ok for HK:smug:

[Vansterdam]

sooo good place to order masks online if ur in BC still? seeing alot of local places having limits

think ima stock up on some canned goods , noodles and shit just in case as well

[winson604]

While 10 bags of rice is a bit excessive, no reason not to prepare...all the movies you see are exactly how people are behaving.

You certainly don't want to be panic buying food when everyone else is...

A few years ago when we had the salt shortage and people went ape shit you already can tell us as humans are fucking doomed. It was salt for crying out loud, not even an essential item like say food or water and the behavior was ridiculous. God have mercy on us all!

[twitchyzero]

if that day comes I hope they close the bridges to Richmond and contain Metrotown :toot:

[buhdeh]

if that day comes I hope they close the bridges to Richmond and contain Metrotown :toot:

they should do that regardless

[bobbinka]

if that day comes I hope they close the bridges to Richmond and contain Metrotown :toot:

You mean Crystal Mall

[Mikoyan]

You mean Crystal Mall

Crystal Mall is safe as there's no one showing up there anymore.

[StylinRed]

Moderna is testing a vaccine, they say it'll still take about 2 years though, if it proves successful

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/business/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/rlsusthqkdj41.jpg
https://i.redd.it/ehmyv2gdzdj41.jpg

[asian_XL]

if that day comes I hope they close the bridges to Richmond and contain Metrotown :toot:

and people can enter from Massey tunnel?

[Amuse]

Allowing flights from China into Kenya?

Algeria records its first case yesterday.

https://twitter.com/kipsmutai/status/1232894382250119168

https://www.africanews.com/2020/02/26/ivory-coast-tests-suspected-coronavirus-case/

[ilovebacon]

Thank god my 8oz hand sanitizers are here. I think the price of sanitizers is raised. I had to pay 50$ for it.

But if you guys need hand sanitizers. You can order from Walmart online for cheap.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/one-step-extra-strength-hand-sanitizer/6000079337880

[Hehe]

Da faq? hand sanitizers going up in price too?! How's 7.78 for a bottle of 16 fl oz cheap?

I just picked up my amazon (US) order today at Blaine, as it's something we are used to keeping around after having kids. 4 bottles of 30 fl oz for 15.xx USD.

Edit: Just checked... it's OOS now and the 8oz bottle now is 12USD for a single bottle!!! Oh well... these 4 bottles should last me a good 4-6mths.

[SkinnyPupp]

Funny enough, there's plenty of hand sanitizer to go around now LUL

https://twitter.com/alicemuwu/status/1232964277247438849

[StylinRed]

https://youtu.be/3-wf3Nb8tzI


Recovered patients testing positive again

[Fafine]

Da faq? hand sanitizers going up in price too?! How's 7.78 for a bottle of 16 fl oz cheap?

I just picked up my amazon (US) order today at Blaine, as it's something we are used to keeping around after having kids. 4 bottles of 30 fl oz for 15.xx USD.

Edit: Just checked... it's OOS now and the 8oz bottle now is 12USD for a single bottle!!! Oh well... these 4 bottles should last me a good 4-6mths.

Can also make your own, by diluting 99% alcohol from Costco with aloe to make 70%.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Thank god my 8oz hand sanitizers are here. I think the price of sanitizers is raised. I had to pay 50$ for it.

But if you guys need hand sanitizers. You can order from Walmart online for cheap.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/one-step-extra-strength-hand-sanitizer/6000079337880

Make sure the alochol level is around 70 to 77%. If it is too low or too high it won't kill bacteria.

[Rallydrv]

^ foam works better than gel. also they are lysol hand wiples. (which imo r better at times to grab stuff in public areas)

was at tnt recently. woman coughing all over the place. for f sakes why dont people learn how to cough and sneeze , still using hands, if that and not elbow. think gov needs to do a better job education people in different languages.

[twitchyzero]

chances are some of these shoppers dont work, don't take the bus, only stream asian shows, play mj to spread more germs etc...it's hard to reach the immigrants that don't integrate

[Ludepower]

Markets are crashing. Are we in panic mode yet?

[hud 91gt]

I’m 50% panic. Not for the flu, for the crash :(

[Spoon]

10% drop is hardly a crash. Markets have tripled since 2008, if the virus is the next bubonic plague I won't even touch stocks unless it drops another 30-40%.

[underscore]

We also have a much higher population and way more rapid travel which makes it much easier to spread.

10 months after the Spanish Flu started millions of soldiers were crammed together and then slowly dispersed over large parts of the world after the war ended. That's definitely going to make it a lot worse.

[whitev70r]

Markets are crashing. Are we in panic mode yet?

TSX literally crashed, had to halt trading for an hour. Technical issues, I think.

[hud 91gt]

10% drop is hardly a crash. Markets have tripled since 2008, if the virus is the next bubonic plague I won't even touch stocks unless it drops another 30-40%.

What do you think a crash is? This is a dip. 50% panic is for the potential of a crash. As if it hits, it won’t be pretty.

[Presto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L9-POl_GFs

[RRxtar]

In 1918. Millions of soldiers returned from war yes, but most of them were from European to begin with. And most of the world didn't even have cars or travel more than 5 miles from their house. Little different today when over 4 billion people travel by air all around the world for fun. "The most significant figure released was that a record-breaking 4.1 billion passengers flew on scheduled airline services last year."

[Hehe]

If anyone is panic enough, :fuckthatshit: just saw a bunch of hand sanitizers at Costco Surrey by the entrance. So, probably something at every store as those are usually temp/promo items they want to push.

[SkinnyPupp]

Definitely a lot more people out and about in the last few days. Maybe people are getting too comfortable, or maybe just tired of staying home. That's not good, because this is still in full swing. If another grouping of outbreak occurs, it'll hit a lot more people now, masks or no masks.

[320icar]

If anyone is panic enough, :fuckthatshit: just saw a bunch of hand sanitizers at Costco Surrey by the entrance. So, probably something at every store as those are usually temp/promo items they want to push.

Shits 100% fucked. The news told everyone to panic and buy stuff. Yesterday we sold out of water, rice, toilet paper etc. We sold all our freezers. Yet canned goods were fine! But our tofu and salmon lox and kimchi sold out. Priorities :rukidding:

We did $1.3m in sales yesterday, up ~500k from the previous year that day

Fucking stupid idiot crowd mentality

[!LittleDragon]

Bleach works much better at killing viruses than hand sanitizers. A lot cheaper too... lol

Sanitizers will kill most of the germs and viruses... disinfectants destroys all.

[Hehe]

Shits 100% fucked. The news told everyone to panic and buy stuff. Yesterday we sold out of water, rice, toilet paper etc. We sold all our freezers. Yet canned goods were fine! But our tofu and salmon lox and kimchi sold out. Priorities :rukidding:

We did $1.3m in sales yesterday, up ~500k from the previous year that day

Fucking stupid idiot crowd mentality

Hahaha... it's really fucked up when they ask you to stock up and yet don't really tell you exactly what to stock.

Cans are great as they can be consumed without fire/water (in case of loss of basic utilities).

There are a lot of microwaveable rice and stuff (room temp) at Costco that are really good too. They can be consumed without any processing. Not very tasty, but perfectly safe.

I am cheap AF, so I usually stock up stuff already on non-perishable items like toilet paper, cans, pastas and all sort of crap when they go on sale. The only recent addition when the virus thing started was organic whole milk for kids (the one that needs no fridge) from US as that's the one thing I need if shit hit the fans and we want to avoid going out as much as possible. Also added a few big jug of distilled water that technically has no shelf life that I put in the crawspace with a few boxes of wine I have down there. :D

All in all, between whatever in the fridge, pantry and garage, our family can stay inside comfortable for 2wks and up to 6 or so if we ration everything.

And really, it should be something on everyone's home, not because of virus, but because our location on the fire belt for quakes.

[eclipseman]

Went by Costco downtown at around 1:30pm today...Could not even find parking. It's never crowded during the weekdays...

Went inside and stocked up on various, many people were doing the same thing. They sold out of the lysol wipes as well...not sure when they'll restock.

[Hondaracer]

Lol..”stocking up” ..

You’re more likely to have to stock up due to Trudeaus ineptitude rather than this years form of the flu bra’s

[Rallydrv]

Bleach works much better at killing viruses than hand sanitizers. A lot cheaper too... lol

Sanitizers will kill most of the germs and viruses... disinfectants destroys all.

R u using bleach to sanitize Ur hands in random places.. Hope not!

[ilovebacon]

Make sure the alochol level is around 70 to 77%. If it is too low or too high it won't kill bacteria.

This is what I purchased. I was hoping it would be a big bottle but 8 oz is just a cup...

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/Assured-Hand-Sanitizer-with-Aloe-8-oz-Bottles-You-Will-Receive-1-Ea-SHIPS-N-24-HRS-FREE-SHIPPING/PRD6XULKTQXTB7P

[ilovebacon]

Bleach works much better at killing viruses than hand sanitizers. A lot cheaper too... lol

Sanitizers will kill most of the germs and viruses... disinfectants destroys all.

Unless you want dry crusty hands haha. Bleach is bad for my skin since I have sensitive skin too.

[Rallydrv]

^ not just bad, its toxic, can cause nerve damage etc.

[!LittleDragon]

R u using bleach to sanitize Ur hands in random places.. Hope not!

LOL... no, I'm not doing anything. Not living my life in fear... but don't use the bleach straight obviously. A few drops in a bucket of rainwater for a few hours will make it potable in an emergency. You can use a few drops with water in a portable spray bottle if hand sanitizer becomes hard to find.

[SkinnyPupp]

The point of washing your hands with soap or alcohol isn't to "kill the virus", it's to clean off all the gunk on your hands that the virus resides in. Don't use bleach omg

[!LittleDragon]

The point of washing your hands with soap or alcohol isn't to "kill the virus", it's to clean off all the gunk on your hands that the virus resides in. Don't use bleach omg


From the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/making-hand-washing-solution-bleach-hth.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/emergency/09_202278-b_make_water_safe_flyer_508.pdf

[SkinnyPupp]

From the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/making-hand-washing-solution-bleach-hth.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/emergency/09_202278-b_make_water_safe_flyer_508.pdf
Well yeah, dilute it first, then you can wash your hands

[Raid3n]

This is what I purchased. I was hoping it would be a big bottle but 8 oz is just a cup...

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/Assured-Hand-Sanitizer-with-Aloe-8-oz-Bottles-You-Will-Receive-1-Ea-SHIPS-N-24-HRS-FREE-SHIPPING/PRD6XULKTQXTB7P

lol $50 for 8oz. bottle?! XD

[Simplex123]

Make sure the alochol level is around 70 to 77%. If it is too low or too high it won't kill bacteria.

I was curious after reading this comment and went digging to find out why there is a specific range between 0-100% alcohol. I wasn't able to find a clear answer why.. I guess anything higher would damage our hands or become too flammable? But I was reading info from the CDC and they mentioned to "clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that contains 60 to 95% alcohol".

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/steps-when-sick.html

[SumAznGuy]

I was curious after reading this comment and went digging to find out why there is a specific range between 0-100% alcohol. I wasn't able to find a clear answer why.. I guess anything higher would damage our hands or become too flammable? But I was reading info from the CDC and they mentioned to "clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that contains 60 to 95% alcohol".

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/steps-when-sick.html

Alcohol will evaporate. If the alcohol content is too high, it was evaporate too fast and isn't able to kill the germs is what I was told.

[hud 91gt]

That doesn’t really make sense. As soon as some of it evaporates it brings the alcohol content down to the “desired” level, then it magically doesn’t dissolve? I’m betting it has more to do with health reasons or safety vs. it’s inability to kill germs.

[whitev70r]

Don't sweat it ... there is a run on > 90% isopropyl alcohol at pharmacies. You're too late to make your own brew.

[haymura]

looks like the whole panic buying has already started. Ive been through 4 different big box groceries and all of them are sold out on rice and Spam. only the small bags of brown rice are left.

[6793026]

The outbreak will be in US, it's inveitable. US has no money, shit affordable health care for the public (lots of private), and inability to lock down.

What happens if I'm poor. Will I go to the doctors. NO. Just suck it up with tyleno / over the counter drugs to minimize the cough.

Each person has to be TESTED to see if it is actually COVID-19.
This is where the grey area comes in... If you die of pneumonia, ARDS (Acute respiratory distress syndrome), kidney failure and doesn't get tested... well they just died of pneumonia.

This is why WHO is asking US to hand over the data.

US doesn't have the money + time + ability to lock down... I want to see what the real numbers are from US (327.2 million people and only 60 cases???)

Pic below is Feb 27 2020
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/151/590x/secondary/Coronavirus-map-countries-with-covid19-infections-2335825.jpg?r=1582813600005

[underscore]

Going around the grocery store today everything looked like normal, so if you're worried and don't mind a road trip...

[6793026]

for f sakes why dont people learn how to cough and sneeze , still using hands, if that and not elbow. think gov needs to do a better job education people in different languages.

You know what..... it's something I was NEVER ever taught. I didn't know we are to cough at your elbows. I certainly did not learn it in Hong Kong, my parents never did. If it wasn't a pre-school teacher telling me this in my 20s. I wouldn't know.

To this date, my parents still do not know... I don't blame them... they have been coughing (when they are sick) at their palms for 60 yrs... it's hard to break a habit you know.

This dude... National TV... negative for Corona Virus... cough cough... cough cough... not with elbows... and HE out of ANYONE should know better.
* ANY he grabs the water bottle
:rukidding:

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1233439635944148993

[SpeedStars]

Don't sweat it ... there is a run on > 90% isopropyl alcohol at pharmacies. You're too late to make your own brew.

Walmart in tsawassen mills has tons of 91% and 70% isopropyl. No hand sanitizer though. I swear the buying and stocking up pandemic is only prevalent in Richmond/Vancouver/Burnaby

[winson604]

looks like the whole panic buying has already started. Ive been through 4 different big box groceries and all of them are sold out on rice and Spam. only the small bags of brown rice are left.

I saw a picture today that the Costco in Richmond was sold out of toilet paper and some were even seen buying mini fridges while stock piling slabs of meat.

[RRxtar]

Walmart in tsawassen mills has tons of 91% and 70% isopropyl. No hand sanitizer though. I swear the buying and stocking up pandemic is only prevalent in Richmond/Vancouver/Burnaby
imagine if asians in vancouver and richmond were the only ones that survived because they pandemic prepped and the rest of us thought they'd be the first to go

[Mr.HappySilp]

imagine if asians in vancouver and richmond were the only ones that survived because they pandemic prepped and the rest of us thought they'd be the first to go

People are just stupid. There are still lot's of stock in Coq. Wife and I just goes buy what we need and stock up on items that we do use and is on sale. Is funny seeing people buying 5 bags of rice as once and they can't even lift it up for the cashier to scan at T and T.

[SumAznGuy]

That doesn’t really make sense. As soon as some of it evaporates it brings the alcohol content down to the “desired” level, then it magically doesn’t dissolve? I’m betting it has more to do with health reasons or safety vs. it’s inability to kill germs.

Google came up with this
https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/why-is-70-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-a-better-disinfectant-than-99-isopropanol-and-what-is-ipa-used-for/

"The presence of water is a crucial factor in destroying or inhibiting the growth of pathogenic microorganisms with isopropyl alcohol. Water acts as a catalyst and plays a key role in denaturing the proteins of vegetative cell membranes. 70% IPA solutions penetrate the cell wall more completely which permeates the entire cell, coagulates all proteins, and therefore the microorganism dies. Extra water content slows evaporation, therefore increasing surface contact time and enhancing effectiveness. Isopropyl alcohol concentrations over 91% coagulate proteins instantly. Consequently, a protective layer is created which protects other proteins from further coagulation.

Solutions > 91% IPA may kill some bacteria, but require longer contact times for disinfection, and enable spores to lie in a dormant state without being killed. A 50% isopropyl alcohol solution kills Staphylococcus Aureus in less than 10 seconds (pg. 238), yet a 90% solution with a contact time of over two hours is ineffective. Some disinfectants will kill spores with exposures times that exceed 3-12 hours, which are classified as chemical sterilants. So why do higher alcohol solutions yield fewer results for bactericidal and antimicrobial outcomes?"

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not saying everyone here should panic buy, but do make sure you have enough food for an extra week or so, in case stores do run out temporarily. We didn't get in on the panic buy on rice, and had just enough to last before stocks showed up again, only because we also had some white folks carbs like pasta and potatoes.

[inv4zn]

Google came up with this
https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/why-is-70-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-a-better-disinfectant-than-99-isopropanol-and-what-is-ipa-used-for/


This is the real reason, it's not the % of alcohol, but rather the higher presence of H2O. ~70% is the perfect balance between efficiency and potency.

higher concentrations are made generally for a different purpose, generally to clean/disinfect things that are water sensitive.

[eclipseman]

Again, this afternoon at 2pm, there were tons of people at the otherwise "less" busy Lougheed Costco. Generally, it was folks with kids and elderly people stocking up, myself included.

Panic buying hasn't started imo...people are preparing, but it's still very orderly. Returned to Costco at Lougheed this afternoon to grab a couple other things and they too were out of Lysol wipes. Seems Downtown, Richmond, Lougheed and Willingdon are all out of Lysol wipes.

Both the Pho noodle bowls and Nong Shim bowls were completely sold out as well lol.

But there's still plenty of stock of TP etc...

https://i.imgur.com/yBy3bG4.jpg

[Mikoyan]

https://i.imgur.com/yBy3bG4.jpg

The pho bowls went on sale?

There's no MSG in those ones apparently. I was waiting for them to go on sale to keep some at work for the "didn't bring lunch but not wanting to pay for cafeteria food" days.

[Rallydrv]

how much freaking noodles can people eat? OMG.

think tuna cans and stuff would be first to go.. not freaking ramen

[320icar]

how much freaking noodles can people eat? OMG.

think tuna cans and stuff would be first to go.. not freaking ramen

#asians

[SkinnyPupp]

Based on what I see in carts at the grocery store, there are people who live on instant noodles.

[MG1]

Brighton Avenue Costco still sane............ smaller location, so perhaps they're out of items, as well. I was at Still Creek yesterday and there was a whole pallet of lysol wipes. Mind you, they never bring down pallets from the upper shelves during shopping hours, due to safety regulations. Go in the morning.

[Presto]

there are people who live on instant noodles.


Gotta keep those tapeworms happy!

[hud 91gt]

Google came up with this
https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/why-is-70-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-a-better-disinfectant-than-99-isopropanol-and-what-is-ipa-used-for/

"The presence of water is a crucial factor in destroying or inhibiting the growth of pathogenic microorganisms with isopropyl alcohol. Water acts as a catalyst and plays a key role in denaturing the proteins of vegetative cell membranes. 70% IPA solutions penetrate the cell wall more completely which permeates the entire cell, coagulates all proteins, and therefore the microorganism dies. Extra water content slows evaporation, therefore increasing surface contact time and enhancing effectiveness. Isopropyl alcohol concentrations over 91% coagulate proteins instantly. Consequently, a protective layer is created which protects other proteins from further coagulation.

Solutions > 91% IPA may kill some bacteria, but require longer contact times for disinfection, and enable spores to lie in a dormant state without being killed. A 50% isopropyl alcohol solution kills Staphylococcus Aureus in less than 10 seconds (pg. 238), yet a 90% solution with a contact time of over two hours is ineffective. Some disinfectants will kill spores with exposures times that exceed 3-12 hours, which are classified as chemical sterilants. So why do higher alcohol solutions yield fewer results for bactericidal and antimicrobial outcomes?"

Damnit! Chemistry strikes again!

[extracrunchie]

I really cant imagine a pandemic if there was it will be crazy. Man do you guys remember the salt shortage and how crazy ppl got fighting over salt during the winter of 2017...........this will get out of hand.

[corollagtSr5]

Since it came from an animal, can the virus be transmitted to say a mouse/rat? Say infected person leaves left overs mouse eats it, gets sick, travels around the house eats something left out then another person eats that food and gets sick?

[will068]

I saw a picture today that the Costco in Richmond was sold out of toilet paper and some were even seen buying mini fridges while stock piling slabs of meat.

Costco Richmond is the busiest Costco in North America though (according to the yearly Costco reps who visit the office).

[Rallydrv]

Omg.. End of humanity.. And beyond.
Gonna be a never ending cycle..
:heckno:

https://apple.news/AbZ8CU1ztSM29S0zUlgqOPg

[Spectre_Cdn]

Since it came from an animal, can the virus be transmitted to say a mouse/rat? Say infected person leaves left overs mouse eats it, gets sick, travels around the house eats something left out then another person eats that food and gets sick?

There's a case of a dog getting infected in Hong Kong:

A dog in Hong Kong has tested positive for the COVID-19 virus that’s killed at least 2,859 humans across the world over the last two months, World Health Organization officials said Friday.

Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, the technical lead of WHO’s emergencies program, said the canine tested “weakly positive,” meaning low levels of the virus were found.

Hong Kong scientists aren’t sure if the dog is actually infected or if it picked up the virus from a contaminated surface, she said.

“We’re working with them to understand the results, to understand what further testing they are doing and to understand how they are going to care for these animals,” Kerkhove said during a press conference at WHO’s headquarters in Geneva.

The dog reportedly belongs to a 60-year-old woman who developed symptoms on Feb. 12 and later tested positive, according to The Wall Street Journal.

As a precaution, the Hong Kong government declared cats, dogs and other domesticated mammals whose owners test positive and are quarantined for COVID-19 would be collected and delivered to a “designated animal keeping” facility for quarantine and veterinary surveillance. Hong Kong’s Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department said the dog doesn’t have any symptoms. Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities revealed tested “weak positive,” it said in a statement Friday.

The dog is under quarantine at a facility at a port in Hong Kong and will be returned to the owner once it tests negative for the virus, according to the agency.

Although the virus seems to have emerged from an animal — scientists have said a bat — there is currently no evidence that suggests pets like dogs or cats can be infected with the coronavirus, the department said. However, the situation is still evolving, scientists say.

On Thursday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said six animal drug firms that source ingredients or make finished products in China have indicated they’re seeing disruptions in the supply chain that could soon lead to shortages.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests pet owners restrict contact with pets and other animals if the owner is infected with COVID-19. That includes “petting, snuggling, being kissed or licked, and sharing food.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/a-dog-in-hong-kong-tests-positive-for-the-coronavirus-who-confirms.html

[MG1]

Mosquitos?

That would be scary as fuck, but...............

https://www.cmete.com/index.php?tg=articles&idx=Print&topics=101&article=68

[Rallydrv]

With dogs now getting infected, it's more looking like "I am legend" than contagion.

[Mr.HappySilp]

With dogs now getting infected, it's more looking like "I am legend" than contagion.

But people and animal have not turn into zombies yet.

On a funny note wife and I went to Wal Mart coquitlam center after dinner. I notice this old Chinese couple have a cart full off bleach like literally 10 bottles and they were like 3.5L or 4L each. After they took like 20 steps they heard me giggling with my wife and then around. Give us a pretty dirty look. We didn't care though. Like wtf what are you going to do with that much bleach? Take showers with it?

[Okami]

31104

[Manic!]

FYI the dollar store sells hand sanitizer, bleach, and Isopropol Alcohol.

[ilovebacon]

lol $50 for 8oz. bottle?! XD

I just opened the package today, it came in two bottles.

[ilovebacon]

The pho bowls went on sale?

There's no MSG in those ones apparently. I was waiting for them to go on sale to keep some at work for the "didn't bring lunch but not wanting to pay for cafeteria food" days.

Pho Bowls? Are they like instant noodles...

[SkinnyPupp]

I really cant imagine a pandemic if there was it will be crazy. Man do you guys remember the salt shortage and how crazy ppl got fighting over salt during the winter of 2017...........this will get out of hand.
A pandemic is literally inevitable. There's no way it won't be announced. Currently they are in the stage of "preparation" which means if you aren't preparing for a pandemic, you're not being responsible.

I keep saying, be prepared nowt hat you have a chance. Right now it's just Chinese people, which is kind of understandably part of their culture if you look at what China went through in the last 100 years.

But once white people start panicking, and they will, look out.

Don't freak out, be prepared. Wash your hands, with soap. You won't believe how many people I see at the gym wearing a mask, go take a piss, then rinse their fingers under the water for 0.5 seconds DansGame

[SkinnyPupp]

There's a case of a dog getting infected in Hong Kong:



https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/a-dog-in-hong-kong-tests-positive-for-the-coronavirus-who-confirms.html
The dog wasn't infected by the virus, it was carrying the virus on its body. Similar to when they find "weakly positive" results on doorknobs and taps.

[320icar]

For those curious, richmond Costco posted their second highest ever sales day today (Friday). Opened in ‘89

[Teriyaki]

Well shit, I'm sick. Been wearing a facemask all month, religiously washing my hands and sanitizing everything we touch with alcohol for some time. I dont meet the threshold to get tested (Japan really doesnt want to test anyone) so it's just stay at home and uhh... dont die? I got food for days on end so no need to go out.

Tissue paper is gone city wide I hear. It's happening guys, once the panic buy sets in!

[SkinnyPupp]

Well shit, I'm sick. Been wearing a facemask all month, religiously washing my hands and sanitizing everything we touch with alcohol for some time. I dont meet the threshold to get tested (Japan really doesnt want to test anyone) so it's just stay at home and uhh... dont die? I got food for days on end so no need to go out.

Tissue paper is gone city wide I hear. It's happening guys, once the panic buy sets in!
How sick? If you get a fever, go get tested for reals

[6793026]

Well shit, I'm sick. Been wearing a facemask all month, religiously washing my hands and sanitizing everything we touch with alcohol for some time. I dont meet the threshold to get tested (Japan really doesnt want to test anyone) so it's just stay at home and uhh... dont die? I got food for days on end so no need to go out.

Tissue paper is gone city wide I hear. It's happening guys, once the panic buy sets in!

There are proper protocols if one thinks you have the specific symptoms for COVID-19. Gotta do some digging on how it should be done.

Don't just go into walk in clinic.

[i-vtecyo]

So 800 new over night cases in South Korea, 3 new cases in the states (one of them died in Washington this morning), 1 new case in BC and 3 new cases in Ontario. Yet BC health officials still thinks this is "low risk" and that "here in BC, we are still very much in our contain phase"... Like wtf every other scientist and Dr is saying this pandemic is going to be a matter of WHEN, not IF... Yet our retarded health official in BC still thinks there is nothing to be concerned about and that it'll pass. I wouldn't be surprised if she was an anti vaxxer.

If we think ER wait times of 3 hours is long right now, oh we will be in for a surprise once the covid 19 is blowing out here in B.C. #WeAreNotPrepared

Until our anti vaxxer health official declares anything other than "low risk", no one is gonna take it seriously and continue to go to work while sick. Those who are sick will just believe they have a common cold cause they "haven't been traveling".

[StylinRed]

I think it's crazy that confirmed corona carriers are just told to go home, or stay with family, like the latest case in BC

[is350]

Walmart in tsawassen mills has tons of 91% and 70% isopropyl. No hand sanitizer though. I swear the buying and stocking up pandemic is only prevalent in Richmond/Vancouver/Burnaby

My dad went to walmart and superstore in Campbell River, all hand sanitizers, IPA are sold out.

He went to the dollar store, grabbed a 760ml hand sanitizer for $3 (62% ethyl alcohol) and a bottle of 50% IPA for $2.

But apparently IPA concentration less than 70% is not very effective as stated in this thread.

[SkinnyPupp]

So 800 new over night cases in South Korea, 3 new cases in the states (one of them died in Washington this morning), 1 new case in BC and 3 new cases in Ontario. Yet BC health officials still thinks this is "low risk" and that "here in BC, we are still very much in our contain phase"... Like wtf every other scientist and Dr is saying this pandemic is going to be a matter of WHEN, not IF... Yet our retarded health official in BC still thinks there is nothing to be concerned about and that it'll pass. I wouldn't be surprised if she was an anti vaxxer.

If we think ER wait times of 3 hours is long right now, oh we will be in for a surprise once the covid 19 is blowing out here in B.C. #WeAreNotPrepared

Until our anti vaxxer health official declares anything other than "low risk", no one is gonna take it seriously and continue to go to work while sick. Those who are sick will just believe they have a common cold cause they "haven't been traveling".
I've seen the opposite - she's the one telling people to prepare (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/prepare-for-new-coronavirus-like-an-emergency-health-minister-advises-1.4828616)...

[Doubl3_H]

Dis is my wice!!

https://i.imgur.com/ifxrFik.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/brFhPLB.jpg

[Amuse]

Is that Richmond? If so that is crazy.

[Amuse]

Costco Willingdon had people using disinfecting wipes to wipe down every cart handle coming into the store. I guess this is a way to prevent the spread.

[twitchyzero]

US Surgeon General tells people to stop using masks and to save it for those who are sick/taking care of the sick/healthcare workers

https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1233725785283932160?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Ludepower]

Probably not wise for me to travel to LA to visit family? Hows everyone experience flying to the states?

[twitchyzero]

Probably not wise for me to travel to LA to visit family? Hows everyone experience flying to the states?

i would look up flight data...if many of the passengers are connecting from Korea/China :heckno:

[SumAznGuy]

For those curious, richmond Costco posted their second highest ever sales day today (Friday). Opened in ‘89

Out of curiosity, when was #1?

[i-vtecyo]

I've seen the opposite - she's the one telling people to prepare (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/prepare-for-new-coronavirus-like-an-emergency-health-minister-advises-1.4828616)...

That's the Ottawa health official. Our BC one is a joke.

[320icar]

Dis is my wice!!

https://i.imgur.com/ifxrFik.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/brFhPLB.jpg

Not richmond Costco.

[Doubl3_H]

Not richmond Costco.

Never said it was

All I said was

"my wice!!"

[SkinnyPupp]

Where/when is that?

[BIC_BAWS]

Today - Richmond

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/d349c9de5a3b5f860324a66e0a7d414d.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/44cb9bc2756e764ad4f8d983f726e5fe.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/d3b5ea569b08b6a10ab84cf720024e42.jpg

[Doubl3_H]

Where/when is that?

Today, Costco somewhere in Toronto

[JDM GTO]

Well shit, I'm sick. Been wearing a facemask all month, religiously washing my hands and sanitizing everything we touch with alcohol for some time. I dont meet the threshold to get tested (Japan really doesnt want to test anyone) so it's just stay at home and uhh... dont die? I got food for days on end so no need to go out.

Tissue paper is gone city wide I hear. It's happening guys, once the panic buy sets in!

Apparently they are allowing tests at non government sites next week. You just have to pay out of pocket like any clinic visit.
Stay safe, I’m in Saitama, so not so bad.

[BIC_BAWS]

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/richmondites-stocking-up-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-fears-1.24087146

[underscore]

For those curious, richmond Costco posted their second highest ever sales day today (Friday). Opened in ‘89

Now I'm curious, when was the highest?

[Rallydrv]

^ maybe when donald took office. :lol

[320icar]

IIRC it was ~12/22/19 or so right before xmas last year, $1.65m in a day. When I started in ‘08 it was a rare occasion when we did million dollar days, maybe a dozen a year or something like that. Last year our total annual sales was something like $350m so if you wanted to do some fairly inaccurate math, you could just average that out to being 350 separate 1M days versus a decade ago or maybe 20.

I’m afraid to move and transfer. Would be bored out of my effing mind

[!LittleDragon]

Probably not wise for me to travel to LA to visit family? Hows everyone experience flying to the states?

I was in Honolulu earlier this week. Flights were not full. Feel bad for people who paid for first class when I had a whole row to myself... lol

I'm looking forward to cheap vacations in the next 1-2 years...

[Recon604]

going to taiwan and bali in a few weeks... has anyone gone to these areas during the outbreak?

[haymura]

Im Mr. Panic guy so I need help putting all these into perspective and also why some in here, if not most, dont seem to be too worried. Am I missing some key information here or is everyone just complacent? Mind you, i have a family of 4 hence why i am also in the panic threshold.

[SSM_DC5]

Im Mr. Panic guy so I need help putting all these into perspective and also why some in here, if not most, dont seem to be too worried. Am I missing some key information here or is everyone just complacent? Mind you, i have a family of 4 hence why i am also in the panic threshold.

Answering the question "why are YOU in panic mode?" may be more effective in helping you become less anxious. It's certainly wise to be aware of the situation, and what's going on in your area.

[RRxtar]

2 years ago I was certain I'd be a survivor in the apocalypse. Now with a 2 year old I'm confident I'll be the first to go. Used to never get sick, maybe one cold every 2 years, and didn't live a sanitized life either. Now I catch every damn thing that kid brings home from the snot nosed little shits at daycare. Been sick 3 times this winter.

[SkinnyPupp]

Im Mr. Panic guy so I need help putting all these into perspective and also why some in here, if not most, dont seem to be too worried. Am I missing some key information here or is everyone just complacent? Mind you, i have a family of 4 hence why i am also in the panic threshold.
At a meta level (as in you, your wife, your kids) you are not in serious danger of dying from this.

The threat of this is more on a wider scale, as it spreads rapidly, and makes people who are normally at risk (people with pre-existing conditions and elderly) in grave danger.

So even if you get it, it's the danger of spreading it throughout the city that makes it dangerous.

So don't panic, but be cautious.

[dachinesedude]

Help me understand why people are buying 10 bags of rice, is there actually going to be a situation where there is no food on the shelves for many months?

[Gumby]

I've seen the opposite - she's the one telling people to prepare (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/prepare-for-new-coronavirus-like-an-emergency-health-minister-advises-1.4828616)...
Your link leads to an article about Patty Hejdu, the Federal Minister of Health. Ivtec-yo is referring to Dr. Bonnie Henry (Provincial Health Officer), but regardless of her current stance on the Coronavirus, jumping to the conclusion that she is an anti-vaxxer is a bit of a leap...

[SkinnyPupp]

Your link leads to an article about Patty Hejdu, the Federal Minister of Health. Ivtec-yo is referring to Dr. Bonnie Henry (Provincial Health Officer), but regardless of her current stance on the Coronavirus, jumping to the conclusion that she is an anti-vaxxer is a bit of a leap...
You're right, I didn't pick up on the reference. When he said "our health official" I assumed he meant Canada's and not specifically BC's.

Anyway, people should listen to the Federal Minister of Health.

[Ludepower]

Help me understand why people are buying 10 bags of rice, is there actually going to be a situation where there is no food on the shelves for many months?

It's the bottle water I dont understand. We have the best tasting drinking water in the world and this virus isn't going to affect our water supply.

[G]

This might sound dumb but I have never really found a real true answer from any source, but what are the start to finish symptoms of the virus? Is there a way to differentiate it from common flu/cold?

[danned]

for people who stock up crazy they should having fun with coronavirus

:fuckyea:

[SkinnyPupp]

This might sound dumb but I have never really found a real true answer from any source, but what are the start to finish symptoms of the virus? Is there a way to differentiate it from common flu/cold?
Depending on how severe, COVID-19 has fewer symptoms than Flu. Cough, fever, and breathing problems are pretty much it.

With Flu you would have these symptoms plus more - fatigue, aching (headache, muscle aches), runny nose, sore throat etc.

[G]

Depending on how severe, COVID-19 has fewer symptoms than Flu. Cough, fever, and breathing problems are pretty much it.

With Flu you would have these symptoms plus more - fatigue, aching (headache, muscle aches), runny nose, sore throat etc.

Can you have both the flu and COVID simultaneously ? Seems like the only differentiation is the breathing issues but I’ve been reading that if you have trouble breathing it’s pretty severe and elongated symptom of COVID...

[is350]

It's the bottle water I dont understand. We have the best tasting drinking water in the world and this virus isn't going to affect our water supply.

I didn't understand it at first too. I also don't know if the water filter will be running automatically if there are no people attending to it.

If filter no longer works when workers stay home, then you have water that is not at the quality it is currently at, so you have to boil it. What if your basic utility doesn't work anymore like power, heat, stove? Then you can't drink the water.

I know it's unlikely, but if you imagine the worst possible scenario, it makes sense to stock up on water too, probably more important than food.

[yray]

https://mobile.twitter.com/trvrb/status/1233970271318503426

Trevor Bedford
@trvrb
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4h
Replying to
@trvrb
and
@seattleflustudy
This case, WA2, is on a branch in the evolutionary tree that descends directly from WA1, the first reported case in the USA sampled Jan 19, also from Snohomish County, viewable here: https://nextstrain.org/ncov?f_division=Washington 2/9
Trevor Bedford
@trvrb
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4h
This strongly suggests that there has been cryptic transmission in Washington State for the past 6 weeks. 3/9


we fucked

[SkinnyPupp]

Can you have both the flu and COVID simultaneously ? Seems like the only differentiation is the breathing issues but I’ve been reading that if you have trouble breathing it’s pretty severe and elongated symptom of COVID...
I guess it's possible, not sure if they've recorded it specifically. But yeah the breathing issues tend to come in later, and is one of the more severe symptoms.

[Doubl3_H]

Co worker just back from the Philippines yesterday and he phoned in sick today. Apparently he sounded like death, hope he gets checked out and is nothing serious.

[Hehe]

Can you have both the flu and COVID simultaneously ? Seems like the only differentiation is the breathing issues but I’ve been reading that if you have trouble breathing it’s pretty severe and elongated symptom of COVID...

Not impossible from a medical perspective.

However, COVID has a very distinctive signature in CT scans. So, the likelihood of getting a false positive with a CT scan being confused with flu is very low.

Source: my MD friend.

[ilovebacon]

Why is toilet paper being sold out than a bag of rice?

[punkwax]

Why is toilet paper being sold out than a bag of rice?

Because rice makes you poop.

[JDM GTO]

Why is toilet paper being sold out than a bag of rice?

Not sure if any one has mentioned before in the previous pages, or if you were looking for a serious answer, but there was this rumor that the material used to make masks is the same as toilet paper and tissue paper. So, at least here ( in Japan) people started hoarding anything paper related...Costco Japan had to limit one pack per customer.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

I was curious after reading this comment and went digging to find out why there is a specific range between 0-100% alcohol. I wasn't able to find a clear answer why.. I guess anything higher would damage our hands or become too flammable? But I was reading info from the CDC and they mentioned to "clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that contains 60 to 95% alcohol".

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/steps-when-sick.html

Alcohol will evaporate. If the alcohol content is too high, it was evaporate too fast and isn't able to kill the germs is what I was told.

it's cuz some germs have a cell wall, like bacteria.

they're smart. they also need hydration. the cell walls let water in and out of the cell. high % alcohol makes the cells react and harden the walls temporarily, letting them survive.

if its 60-80%, the cell walls still let the water through, and also the alcohol, therefore killing the cell.

viruses i duno. they aint even alive, i duno how the fuck they can die if they arent even alive. lol. they just dry out in the environment or break down over time haha i duno. thats as far as my alcohol sanitizing knowledge goes

[Badhobz]

^that or scat play in Japan is getting outta hand.

[whitev70r]

Our neighbour to the south has declared a state of emergency over Covid19.

[Ludepower]

US citizens are avoiding testing cause of healthcare cost. Trump calls it a hoax and has Dr. Pence in charge.

God help us.

[StylinRed]

There are corona cases along the west coast of the US that can't be sourced to danger zones, and they're not testing ppl unless theyve had contact with those danger zones... Yikes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/a-second-case-of-coronavirus-found-through-spread-in-california/2020/02/28/ae53c93a-5a77-11ea-9b35-def5a027d470_story.html

[asian_XL]

modding my 3M respirator.

3M filters are expensive, so bought a large sheet of H12 HEPA filter and cut it down, add few layers from surgical mask and I am done.


it won't 100% filter the virus, but I will drive around and shopping with this everyday, instead of paying CAD$40 for a box of 50 surgical masks

[Mikoyan]

US citizens are avoiding testing cause of healthcare cost. Trump calls it a hoax and has Dr. Pence in charge.

God help us.

Guy in Miami was charged about $4k for the test. Also, apparently they don't have enough test kits at this point.

[eclipseman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/trvrb/status/1233970271318503426

we fucked

Newly Completed Genomic study strongly suggests that there has been cryptic (undetected) transmission in Washington State for the past 6 weeks.


How many people around Snohomish County have been driving back and forth up to BC in the past 6 weeks?

We seriously fucked.

[320icar]

You know what’s far more dangerous? panic

[UnknownJinX]

So 800 new over night cases in South Korea, 3 new cases in the states (one of them died in Washington this morning), 1 new case in BC and 3 new cases in Ontario. Yet BC health officials still thinks this is "low risk" and that "here in BC, we are still very much in our contain phase"... Like wtf every other scientist and Dr is saying this pandemic is going to be a matter of WHEN, not IF... Yet our retarded health official in BC still thinks there is nothing to be concerned about and that it'll pass. I wouldn't be surprised if she was an anti vaxxer.

If we think ER wait times of 3 hours is long right now, oh we will be in for a surprise once the covid 19 is blowing out here in B.C. #WeAreNotPrepared

Until our anti vaxxer health official declares anything other than "low risk", no one is gonna take it seriously and continue to go to work while sick. Those who are sick will just believe they have a common cold cause they "haven't been traveling".People usually have just two modes: not giving a shit and panicking.

Like mentioned, panicking is a bigger problem. Look at all the panic buy that's already happening.

imagine if asians in vancouver and richmond were the only ones that survived because they pandemic prepped and the rest of us thought they'd be the first to go

Unless all the non-asian population in Greater Vancouver are over the age of 50 and/or have preexisting health condition, no.

[beatdownvictim]

Walked into richmond costco at 8:40am today it was ded!
:fuckyea:

Thanks for opening early 320icar

[eclipseman]

I don't think any of this is considered panic buying or panicking. This is more like preparedness.

You'll know if we hit panic when people trample on each other, fight for food, begin to loot etc.

For instance, there's a few videos of people lining up with carts to get into the Richmond Costco. Or this video from Hawaii titled "Panic Buying at Costco", but really it seems extremely orderly lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtcv24BacUA

[Rallydrv]

God all that tp. Install a bidet. Manuals ones r cheap. And Ur ass will thank you later. Maybe Ur plumbing to

[RRxtar]

The "prepping" that is going on is kind of funny. I've been arguing with my wife for 2 weeks that we should do a Costco run to stock up on the usual stuff we stock up on. Not to prep for the coronavirus, but to nit have to grocery shop when everyone else is panic prepping. Sure enough she agrees to go today. 8 minutes after the store opened, the lines for the checkouts were to the back of the store. That's worse than 2pm on a Sunday at Christmas for the Kelowna store. Fuck that.
Did a quick 180 no scope out the door and went to a regular grocery store.

I go home and tell some friends and they say it's stupid to do any shopping ahead of time because "it's not bad yet". I can't imagine what it's going to be like in a month or 2 when it actually gets bad and the panic shopping really gets going. 2005 Boxingday shopping for pork chops anyone? Lol

[GIZZ]

Just wait until they start closing the stores.

[underscore]

Depending on how severe, COVID-19 has fewer symptoms than Flu. Cough, fever, and breathing problems are pretty much it.

With Flu you would have these symptoms plus more - fatigue, aching (headache, muscle aches), runny nose, sore throat etc.

How hard does it hit generally healthy people and how long does it last?

Depending on how bad that is for people without health problems the concern would more be the sheer number of people being too sick to work causing transportation and supply issues.

^that or scat play in Japan is getting outta hand.

You've got to do something to fill the time if you get quarantined at home.

[320icar]

Just wait until they start closing the stores.

Why are we closing stores again?

Thinking back to sars, nothing closed.

Thinking back to swine flu, nothing closed.