[Hondaracer]

Lol I don’t get these news reports and anchors trying to emphasize about singling out Chinese over corona and stigmaziting the Chinese because of it

It started in China, it was Chinese people eating bats that started it, it spread in China to the point we see it at today, and the Chinese govt. tried to cover it up and downplay the severity of it. It’s very much a “Chinese” thing lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Lol I don’t get these news reports and anchors trying to emphasize about singling out Chinese over corona and stigmaziting the Chinese because of it

It started in China, it was Chinese people eating bats that started it, it spread in China to the point we see it at today, and the Chinese govt. tried to cover it up and downplay the severity of it. It’s very much a “Chinese” thing lol
This is the case where "politically correct" has actual use and is not a punchline. It's not politically correct to name a virus after people or a place (or animals). WHO stopped doing it after MERS.

It was colloquially called Wuhan Coronavirus at first for obvious reasons, but media now calls it by its proper politically correct name, 2019 New (or Novel) Coronavirus or 2019 nCoV

If someone still calls it "Wuhan Virus" or whatever, and aren't in the press, I don't think that's a problem. Maybe don't do it though. Regardless of if you think someone is a "snowflake" for bringing it up, why not just be sensitive to people? It makes the world a better place overall. Press needs to be professional though, and should not call it by its colloquial name.

I don't think it's a "huge deal" and I don't think normal people are making a "huge deal" out of it. There is definitely some anti-US propaganda going around China, complaining that H1N1 outbreak wasn't called "American Virus" (it actually started in Mexico btw). Absolutely people were calling it "American Swine Flu" around the world and "Swine Flu" in America and elsewhere. It's such a dumb argument to use though, fighting xenophobia with your own xenophobia FailFish

Anyway my thought is, if people are saying they don't like it when you call something that, why not just call it something else? Does it hurt to do that? Who is actually the snowflake?

[twitchyzero]

it's a tabloid-format print, they're not gonna put 2019-nCoV in bold letters front page

the formal nomenclature itself isn't even finalized because it's still so new

the fact that it's even debated just puts everything into perspective

[SkinnyPupp]

it's a tabloid-format print, they're not gonna put 2019-nCoV in bold letters front page

the formal nomenclature itself isn't even finalized because it's still so new

the fact that it's even debated just puts everything into perspective
I see some places simply calling it "Coronavirus" which at this time everyone knows what it means, despite it being technically inaccurate.

HKFP dropped "Wuhan" from the name after one complaint on twitter. So while they don't call it by its official name (which is not at all reader or SEO friendly) they did accommodate the naming convention.

I think it's good to debate stuff like this. Let's get better at considering the feelings of others!

[threezero]

Apparently Dr. Li is still alive, barely. They reportedly have restarted his heart and have him on ECMO (artificial lung)

Fucking tragic if this man dies.

What is the source on this. Chinese social media is exploding over this. The internet police is on overtime right now.

People are starting to realize the what happened when their rights on infringe on by a government that is always “right”

[SkinnyPupp]

What is the source on this. Chinese social media is exploding over this. The internet police is on overtime right now.

People are starting to realize the what happened when their rights on infringe on by a government that is always “right”
Mind you it has been 11 hours since these tweets:

https://twitter.com/ariahychen/status/1225455408447246336

https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1225456573767536646\

UPDATE: He died a few hours after this. What a shame

https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1225579274771496960

[SkinnyPupp]

Wuhan police “letter of reprimand” to Li Wenliang: translation and analysis (https://thechinacollection.org/wuhan-police-letter-reprimand-li-wenliang-translation-analysis/)

This is an odd document for a couple of reasons — so much so that I first wondered if it might be fake, but I then discovered that Li had presented the document himself to Caixin. But look at the language: instead of the usual formal style of official documents, we have exclamation marks in what reads more like a transcript of a police officer barking at a suspect: “听明白了吗? Have you got that?” The document is suffused with the language of offended Authority scolding a wayward and insufficiently obedient subject.

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/bxs9amvj49f41.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

My gym now checks your temperature before letting you in... Good thing I passed EleGiggle

Saw a huge line of old people outside a Circle K. Turns out they gave away 10,000 masks to people over 65. Only one each, but people still lined up. Many are using them for several days, even though really you shouldn't use one for more than a couple hours.

They have been producing them at the prison 24 hours a day for a while now, I wonder where they are ending up? Certainly not in HK citizens' hands.

[ae101]

my heart outs to all those effect and as well as all the medical personal working, but sadly it doesn’t go out to ignorance which applies mostly to the government for not learning anything from SARS cuz all of this could have been prevented

Also friend bought a bunch of mask and he ask me to hand them out for free instead of donating them, he doesn’t want ppl buying used mask or buying over price masks

[asian_XL]

My gym now checks your temperature before letting you in... Good thing I passed EleGiggle

Saw a huge line of old people outside a Circle K. Turns out they gave away 10,000 masks to people over 65. Only one each, but people still lined up. Many are using them for several days, even though really you shouldn't use one for more than a couple hours.

They have been producing them at the prison 24 hours a day for a while now, I wonder where they are ending up? Certainly not in HK citizens' hands.

I only have less than one box of masks sharing with 7 people at home...only one person can go out and buy food and the mask has to be reused at least 1-2 days. It has been like this for 2 weeks or so.

[SkinnyPupp]

I only have less than one box of masks sharing with 7 people at home...only one person can go out and buy food and the mask has to be reused at least 1-2 days. It has been like this for 2 weeks or so.
I should be getting some soon and will have some to spare if you need (if they actually ever show up). DM me if you're serious!

[belka]

my heart outs to all those effect and as well as all the medical personal working, but sadly it doesn’t go out to ignorance which applies mostly to the government for not learning anything from SARS cuz all of this could have been prevented

You mean high population density, poor controls and limits on animal-human interaction and wet markets are not breeding grounds for virus's that could wipe out humanity? This won't be the last disease coming out of china....

[Mr.HappySilp]

Wife's friend who works as a driver for the Beijing train were given one mask every 10 days or longer. WTF good thing the in laws have a bunch of mask (boxes) left over form last year when the pollution was really bad they had to use them. So they give him some.

[Y2K_o__o]

If they had done that, someone would be posting an article saying "China ignores company's copyright and steals their work to create and sell counterfeit drugs"

Can't win man. Also I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of the copyright application in this case... I don't believe there's any intention to make money off their own citizens in this case.

That is partly true

but after the emergency situation, will the institute hand the patent over to Gilead in China?

What i can see is, there will be two version of Remdesivir from different region and it's just going to be a chaos like other trademark issues (Best example is New Balance).

[RiceIntegraRS]

I should be getting some soon and will have some to spare if you need (if they actually ever show up). DM me if you're serious!

How much are the N95 masks selling for nowadays? Theres actually better, possibly cheaper alternatives out there that I would use over theses masks especially over in China/HK

[6793026]

they were selling for 5.99 at crappy tire on cambie and broadway today. Do have to check which n95 it is.
Regular dusk mask at 4.99.

If this ever happened in USA, they would never name this as Seattle/ new york/ texas virus.

[Vansterdam]

my buddys going to HK this weekend and packed a suitcase full of different type of masks for his family which is the only thing his family requested lol

[SkinnyPupp]

How much are the N95 masks selling for nowadays? Theres actually better, possibly cheaper alternatives out there that I would use over theses masks especially over in China/HK
Not sure about N95, but regular masks are about 10X normal price.

A friend gathered orders for a bunch of people, and ordered tons of masks online in Japan right when this started, so we were able to get them for normal price. I ordered some extras in case I needed to give some out. We'll have to go get them once they make it to Hong Kong - we're not going to trust a freight forwarder so we'll pick it up ourselves (and be very careful, I can see someone trying to rob us if they are desperate enough)

You don't need N95 anyway; you just need to keep peoples' cough juice out of your face if you come across someone coughing.

Keeping hands clean is the most important

[SFU_wmc]

better safe than sorry...

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/84919772_10218362787234965_6523724605847240704_o.j pg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=Zt7M1Zt1BtgAX8_vHUT&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=b98f881d89964fcd1db7051870ebb468&oe=5EBE441D
https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/84965684_10218362787034960_2487480285717856256_o.j pg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=gNA-YkO45iQAX93L-Gg&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=1c61d0d215f2e1b241eef68e0a8079c3&oe=5EC90B6B

[SkinnyPupp]

If that person has a compromised immune system, they may not have a choice but to use that

[yray]

I would use that without the virus. tired of rubbing shoulders

[Gumby]

Wtf is that? It looks like a ball pit for toddlers.

[asian_XL]

I should be getting some soon and will have some to spare if you need (if they actually ever show up). DM me if you're serious!

Staying at home is much safer than walking around, I will wait until the mask supplies are more stable and more reasonable priced. A rioter friend gave me a 3M tear gas mask with a dozen of N95 filters just in case someone in the family needs to go to hospital.

It is unknown who is infected around you. Better stay indoor.

[yray]

Staying at home is much safer than walking around, I will wait until the mask supplies are more stable and more reasonable priced. A rioter friend gave me a 3M tear gas mask with a dozen of N95 filters just in case someone in the family needs to go to hospital.

It is unknown who is infected around you. Better stay indoor.

LOL just walk by the police station and its a free ride to the hospital

[ursher]

thinking of buying some masks online and shipping it to family in China. Anybody do it yet? What company did you use to send it and did it make it there?

[twitchyzero]

If that person has a compromised immune system

then you stay put

[SkinnyPupp]

then you stay put
Unless you HAVE to travel, which some people do
thinking of buying some masks online and shipping it to family in China. Anybody do it yet? What company did you use to send it and did it make it there?
I would stick to companies like FedEx that would have some accountability and offer some insurance.

[RiceIntegraRS]

If i was in china i would be using a 3M Respirator than the N95 masks like this

https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/Images/Original/7558_23259_p1.jpg

I use this respirator for work and it forms a perfect seal around your face so u wont be breathing in anything airborne through your mouth and nose and also with the Pink P100 Filter, itll last 30 days/40hrs of use compared to the single use N95. Which imo are only useful for u to stop touching yourself in the face. In canada you can find the lower model respirator for like $25 with filter, ive seen them on Ali for as low as $20. Seems to be cheaper yet better alternative. Its something to think about if you dont wanna catch the disease and possibly die.

[Vansterdam]

ive always wanted a gasmask of some sorts in case SHTF or some crazy ass emergency

any recommendations

[asian_XL]

yeah, I bought a 3M 6200 + a bunch of N95 (5n11) filters just in case. P100 (62923 / 62926) is for tear gas and people who are in the medical camp.

beside respirators, you should get eye wear and something can protect your ears. Never thought of buying one of these in the past 30 years, now it is different.

[buhdeh]

https://twitter.com/timobrien/status/1226135633975902208

[MG1]

ive always wanted a gasmask of some sorts in case SHTF or some crazy ass emergency

any recommendations

https://www.gorillasurplus.com/gas-masks


Gorilla Surplus on Broadway........... Place is awesome. Need ideas for Halloween? This is the place.

https://www.camouflage.ca/search?q=gas+mask


Read descriptions carefully. Some are for costume use only, lol.


Like you, I've always wanted protection from airborne contaminants. Chinese or otherwise, hee hee. I did some research.

For more modern stuff............. some good info.


https://bestsurvival.org/best-gas-mask/

I'm sure RS members who are in the military can be of more help.

[$_$]

thinking of buying some masks online and shipping it to family in China. Anybody do it yet? What company did you use to send it and did it make it there?

Where can you even buy some face masks? I'm having a hard time just finding normal medical masks, let alone N95

[lowda9]

If i was in china i would be using a 3M Respirator than the N95 masks like this

https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/Images/Original/7558_23259_p1.jpg

I use this respirator for work and it forms a perfect seal around your face so u wont be breathing in anything airborne through your mouth and nose and also with the Pink P100 Filter, itll last 30 days/40hrs of use compared to the single use N95. Which imo are only useful for u to stop touching yourself in the face. In canada you can find the lower model respirator for like $25 with filter, ive seen them on Ali for as low as $20. Seems to be cheaper yet better alternative. Its something to think about if you dont wanna catch the disease and possibly die.

I got this too with the p100 filters. Although I think it'll work, I think there's a right tool for the job behind the thinking. Otherwise why don't doctors wear n99 or p100 but they wear n95? It's because n95 will work. N99 probably for NASA scientists working with radioactive particles, while p100 is probably more geared towards automotive sector where there are many oil, carcinogens, respiratory irritants in the air.

[AzNightmare]

Since my hobby is doing random projects and painting, I've already owned one of these masks. They are so good... you can be spraying paint for half an hour and not smell anything, then once you take the mask off, then you realized just how bad the whole place smells with paint fumes. lol

It seems like Canadian Tire has recently received a new shipment. They have a lot of masks for sale now.

https://i.imgur.com/0l48KuN.jpg
limit of 10 per customer on the masks, and limit of 3 for hand sanitizers.
They have a lot of N95 masks too.

[RRxtar]

Some of y'all never done any fabricating in your shop and it shows.

https://i.postimg.cc/mgsfVZyQ/20200123-104452.jpg

[StylinRed]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51425702

5 brits catch corona at a French ski chalet

I'm in Hawaii atm and there're two mainlanders families on the same floor, and the husband has a cough k. Like eek

[B!tch]

Some of y'all never done any fabricating in your shop and it shows.

https://i.postimg.cc/mgsfVZyQ/20200123-104452.jpg

Will you be wearing this ensemble out around town?

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/ChrisDerps/status/1226093088860508160

[asian_XL]

Will you be wearing this ensemble out around town?

no kidding, I see at least 4-5 people everyday wearing like this in Hong Kong

[ilovebacon]

Another two more cases of coronavirus in BC. :heckno:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/02/06/novel-coronavirus-bc-update/

So we now have 4 in BC and 3 in Toronto...

I dont feel normal wearing masks around Vancouver. It attracts a strange vibe.

[SkinnyPupp]

A family of 19 decided to have hot pot, with 2 of them returning from Guangdong. One had a cough before CNY. But they did go for check ups after they got to Hong Kong.

So now there's 3 confirmed new cases and 7 more suspected cases. The place hosting has shut down, and all employees are on 2 week quarantine.

Be careful out there. Don't freak out, but be careful. Hot pot is a bad idea right now.

[$_$]

So we now have 4 in BC and 3 in Toronto...

I dont feel normal wearing masks around Vancouver. It attracts a strange vibe.

It's weird how little the govt is doing/educating the public especially at YVR. Felt more or less business as usual with not a lot of reminders and no anti-bacterial :heckno:. Vibe is very diff here despite how many Chinese people we have going through that airport

[Ludepower]

Wife doesnt wanna goto T&T and aberdeen mall. Also forcing my parents to quarantine themselves because they have a connecting flight in hong kong.

Extreme but I ain't got time to argue.

[trd2343]

Just like to hear different perspective on this, for those living in Hong Kong right now, how did you evaluate the risk of catching the virus between staying in Hong Kong, vs flying out (ie back to Vancouver/Canada)?

I have family living in HK, and when I’m looking at precautions set out by WHO/VCH, important precautions are avoid crowd and hand washing. Hence I’m a strong believer that there’s a lower risk of catching the virus if you stay put (in HK specifically) than if you fly out. However I have friends who thinks it’s safer in Vancouver than HK, which is true, but aren’t you putting yourself at a higher risk when you’re flying out?

Just wanr to hear what others perspective are, and if I missed anything or there’s a flaw in my thinking.

[corollagtSr5]

https://youtu.be/uGeWspeMzFk

[6793026]

Hong Kong medical workers vote down plans to extend their strike having earlier escalated their action by occupying key floors of Hospital Authority headquarters

First of all, someone called your bluff, you lost by a fooking landslide. All your blown up numbers; at the end collasped. You LOST hard.

I DO RESPECT you (chairwoman Winnie Yu Wai-ming) for standing UP and accepting the defeat.

TL;DR. HK medical workers no strike due to 2,000 votes short of the target. Only 30% agreed to strike.

[HonestTea]

https://youtu.be/uGeWspeMzFk

Thinking bout watching this movie tonight

[RiceIntegraRS]

my wife made me watch it last week, and its a good watch, especially after following this thread for awhile

[ilovebacon]

You guys are not alone. I, myself watched it too haha.

[StylinRed]

You guys never seen it before?! Dang

[SkinnyPupp]

Watched it when it came out, do NOT want to watch it again LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

97 new deaths yesterday (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3049759/coronavirus-china-reports-97-new-fatalities-death-toll), this is now deadlier than SARS

In a few months, 97 per day will seem low

[DavidNguyen]

How many are infected? How many have died? Age?

I read on youtube that there are 100k people that are ill
But chinese media. Obviously down playing that #

[Mr.HappySilp]

It's weird how little the govt is doing/educating the public especially at YVR. Felt more or less business as usual with not a lot of reminders and no anti-bacterial :heckno:. Vibe is very diff here despite how many Chinese people we have going through that airport

Mask is pretty much all sold out. You might be lucky to get a box or two at regular price if you happen to be at the store that just got stock. All the anti-bacterial wet wipes sold out as well. There are still some anti-bacterial wipes out there but they are not safe on skin(only use for cleaning). Rubbing Alohcol is being bought up as well. Lot's of place were out of stock earlier but I think they have some now. Wife and I bought a bottle at London Drugs but you have to get it at customer service. I am guessing they do this to prevent people from buying all the stocks.

Next thing that is going to be sold out pretty quick is anti-bacterial soap. You can still find them at London drugs but I suspect as soon as the Chinese community figure this out it will be gone (BTW the brand is call safeguard). You can still buy mask online but price is like 7x higher than normal.

Wife and I order 5 boxes of N95 mask like a month again online. Still haven't receive them yet. Status is saying seller is preparing them. We kinda of need it coz the plan was to travel back to China in March. But we are most likely to reschedule it to End of April or May. Ticket is purchased though Air Canada and since they suspend flight till end of Feb if we were to reschedule we have to pay out of our pickets so we are waiting right now. We also bought 10 packs of Wet wipes to use in China and a bunch of travel size Purell to bring with us.

The Gov is too scare to do anything in case people call them racist or if they put any policy that target a specific group. My niece goes to pre school now and there are a lot Chinese that comes back after holidays. School refuse to force these kids to go to school due to the fact health officals refuse to issue statements advising people returning from China needs to self quarantine for 14 days.

[SkinnyPupp]

How many are infected? How many have died? Age?

I read on youtube that there are 100k people that are ill
But chinese media. Obviously down playing that #
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

40K infected, 910 deaths, 3000 recovered. Official numbers - models show actual numbers may be 10-20X this. 100K should be assumed, but it's possibly 400K to 1 million so far, the vast majority of these in Wuhan and other locked down cities. Remember Wuhan itself had a population of 11 million.

Older people and those with existing conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) are more vulnerable to serious illness. In healthy people, it seems to be a reall bad flu deep in the respiratory system - so not really a sore throat or cough, but inflamed and saturated lungs.

But we haven't really gotten many reports on death statistics outside the initial wave - the first 17 deaths had a median age of 75, that's all we know for sure. The guy who died in Philippines was 44, the one who died in Hong Kong was 39 IIRC (reports say he had a pre-existing condition, but I never saw what that condition was)

[SkinnyPupp]

Mask is pretty much all sold out. You might be lucky to get a box or two at regular price if you happen to be at the store that just got stock. All the anti-bacterial wet wipes sold out as well. There are still some anti-bacterial wipes out there but they are not safe on skin(only use for cleaning). Rubbing Alohcol is being bought up as well. Lot's of place were out of stock earlier but I think they have some now. Wife and I bought a bottle at London Drugs but you have to get it at customer service. I am guessing they do this to prevent people from buying all the stocks.

Next thing that is going to be sold out pretty quick is anti-bacterial soap. You can still find them at London drugs but I suspect as soon as the Chinese community figure this out it will be gone (BTW the brand is call safeguard). You can still buy mask online but price is like 7x higher than normal.

Wife and I order 5 boxes of N95 mask like a month again online. Still haven't receive them yet. Status is saying seller is preparing them. We kinda of need it coz the plan was to travel back to China in March. But we are most likely to reschedule it to End of April or May. Ticket is purchased though Air Canada and since they suspend flight till end of Feb if we were to reschedule we have to pay out of our pickets so we are waiting right now. We also bought 10 packs of Wet wipes to use in China and a bunch of travel size Purell to bring with us.

The Gov is too scare to do anything in case people call them racist or if they put any policy that target a specific group. My niece goes to pre school now and there are a lot Chinese that comes back after holidays. School refuse to force these kids to go to school due to the fact health officals refuse to issue statements advising people returning from China needs to self quarantine for 14 days.
Just thought I'd spill some thoughts out here as I watch some XFL

BTW you don't need anti-bacterial soap - regular soap will clear your hands of the gunk that the virus lives within. Same goes for those hand wipes.

The thing to keep in mind is, the virus doesn't exist outside its environment of human goop. Either mucous, spit, snot, or poop. You don't need to "kill the virus" with soap, you just need to clean the crap that the virus resides in while on your hands.

Keep your hands clean, keep your hands off your face when they're not clean.

If you live in a condo, get to your strata and put together a plan to clean door handles and elevator buttons on the hour.

Gloves are a good idea, maybe even more important than masks. Masks are overrated, but as I said before, it's paradoxically a good thing they are overrated. I just wish the govt would distribute to people in need who are most at risk. We gave all our pre-wrapped masks to homeless people we came across yesterday throughout TST and Jordan. Govt isn't watching out for people, so we need to watch out for each other.

Change your hand towels or whatever you use to dry your hands after washing them, like every day or every other day. Some people leave these up for way too long, and now is not a good time for that

So far 99% of the infections have come from not one country, but practically one city. It's not "racist" to keep people from that city contained. If your niece goes to a school where there's a chance someone else went to that city or near it, absolutely don't go there for at least a couple weeks!

That 99% is not going to last forever. Already people are getting sick with no travel or known contact with anyone from Hubei or even China. WHO says this is very worrying, and could be "the tip of the iceberg (https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1507658-20200210.htm)" for local transmission.

In other words, despite all the lockdowns and flight cancellations and border controls, the virus was NOT contained.

The excuse of being "racist" no longer exists.

The goal now is for each country to manage and contain the outbreak as it makes its way around the world. Good luck!

[trd2343]

Just like to hear different perspective on this, for those living in Hong Kong right now, how did you evaluate the risk of catching the virus between staying in Hong Kong, vs flying out (ie back to Vancouver/Canada)?

I have family living in HK, and when I’m looking at precautions set out by WHO/VCH, important precautions are avoid crowd and hand washing. Hence I’m a strong believer that there’s a lower risk of catching the virus if you stay put (in HK specifically) than if you fly out. However I have friends who thinks it’s safer in Vancouver than HK, which is true, but aren’t you putting yourself at a higher risk when you’re flying out?

Just wanr to hear what others perspective are, and if I missed anything or there’s a flaw in my thinking.

If anyone would love to share their insight, I'd be grateful to hear them.

[BIC_BAWS]

Has anyone in HK received masks/rubbing alcohol via postage? My relatives want some, I have excess supply of both (rubbing alcohol makes good rainx), but I don't want to run the risk of it getting stolen in transit.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

[SkinnyPupp]

Has anyone in HK received masks/rubbing alcohol via postage? My relatives want some, I have excess supply of both (rubbing alcohol makes good rainx), but I don't want to run the risk of it getting stolen in transit.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
Careful attempting to ship rubbing alcohol, as it's a class 3 flammable "dangerous good"

[trd2343]

Has anyone in HK received masks/rubbing alcohol via postage? My relatives want some, I have excess supply of both (rubbing alcohol makes good rainx), but I don't want to run the risk of it getting stolen in transit.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I had no problem with UPS for my shipment of masks back to HK.

[asian_XL]

Has anyone in HK received masks/rubbing alcohol via postage? My relatives want some, I have excess supply of both (rubbing alcohol makes good rainx), but I don't want to run the risk of it getting stolen in transit.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk


^are you going to some to me and skinnypupp?

[BIC_BAWS]

Careful attempting to ship rubbing alcohol, as it's a class 3 flammable "dangerous good"I wonder if alcohol wipes work. Had a relative ask for aerosol.. that shit would explode. Also why wouldn't you just put rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle?I had no problem with UPS for my shipment of masks back to HK.Perfect thanks!^are you going to some to me and skinnypupp?You want N95? Cause my relatives don't for some reason

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[welfare]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1226246609782046722

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1226246609782046722
Thanks for sharing (though why am I not surprised at who you follow on twitter LUL )

Here's some more info on what they're spraying (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7961361/Chinese-government-spray-disinfectant-entire-CITY-tonight.html) It's not "mind control" or "chemtrailing the streets" and I don' think it's "a sign that this is a manmade bioweapon" as some of that guys other followers seem to think.

I think they spray it each night after curfew, to clean off surfaces that accumulated during the hours that people are allowed to go out.

It's an extreme measure, but this is an extreme circumstance.

BTW this is the damage that occurs when misleading information like "the flu is actually worse" proliferates, and part of why I keep posting here to the people who are exposed to that kind of info.

[ilovebacon]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1226246609782046722

Look like something out from a game but real life...

[welfare]

Thanks for sharing (though why am I not surprised at who you follow on twitter LUL )

Here's some more info on what they're spraying (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7961361/Chinese-government-spray-disinfectant-entire-CITY-tonight.html) It's not "mind control" or "chemtrailing the streets" and I don' think it's "a sign that this is a manmade bioweapon" as some of that guys other followers seem to think.

I think they spray it each night after curfew, to clean off surfaces that accumulated during the hours that people are allowed to go out.

It's an extreme measure, but this is an extreme circumstance.

BTW this is the damage that occurs when misleading information like "the flu is actually worse" proliferates, and part of why I keep posting here to the people who are exposed to that kind of info.

I'm hearing that the virus may be transferable through aerosol. Meaning it can travel quite long distances. Not just droplets and direct contact. Could be another reason for the spraying.

Ps, I don't actually have a Twitter account. Was shared on a video discussing the virus.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm hearing that the virus may be transferable through aerosol. Meaning it can travel quite long distances. Not just droplets and direct contact. Could be another reason for the spraying.

Ps, I don't actually have a Twitter account. Was shared on a video discussing the virus.
Source on that? Maybe one that doesn't have "conservative patriot" in their username ;)

[welfare]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/china-confirms-coronavirus-is-airborne/ar-BBZOXg2

[StylinRed]

Oh jesus

[Manic!]

I don't think newshub is a 100% credible source. It also looks like the story has been taken down.

[SkinnyPupp]

They are referring to a report from Shanghai (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3049623/coronavirus-hubei-province-reports-81-new-deaths-and-2841) that the virus is airborne through aerosol, which the China CDC was quick to debunk (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/09/c_138768432.htm)

Here is their report (http://www.nhc.gov.cn/jkj/s7915/202001/bc661e49b5bc487dba182f5c49ac445b.shtml) which states that it can be aerosolized in specific settings - namely clinical settings (such as inserting a tracheal tube)

Personally I'll wait for WHO to say it before I 100% believe it.

[ilovebacon]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/china-confirms-coronavirus-is-airborne/ar-BBZOXg2

Oh Fuck....

[donk.]

I don't think newshub is a 100% credible source. It also looks like the story has been taken down.

:rukidding:

no news page is credible

[Vansterdam]

https://www.gorillasurplus.com/gas-masks


Gorilla Surplus on Broadway........... Place is awesome. Need ideas for Halloween? This is the place.
.

last year when I went and checked the masks out they said it was all for props or costumes only.

this looks legit
https://www.gorillasurplus.com/czech-cm4-gas-mask-40mm-nato-filter

with that link you sent, I think the Mira Safety CM-6M is legit.. 20-year shelf life. if I can find it locally or if someone knows a good place online to get one..

locally I think Ima go with this if they get more in stock.

https://www.camouflage.ca/israeli-civilian-4a1-gas-mask-nato-filter

[eclipseman]

last year when I went and checked the masks out they said it was all for props or costumes only.

this looks legit
https://www.gorillasurplus.com/czech-cm4-gas-mask-40mm-nato-filter

with that link you sent, I think the Mira Safety CM-6M is legit.. 20-year shelf life. if I can find it locally or if someone knows a good place online to get one..

locally I think Ima go with this if they get more in stock.

https://www.camouflage.ca/israeli-civilian-4a1-gas-mask-nato-filter

I've also been looking in case of a zombie apocalypse. While those probably are good, this is the mask I'm leaning towards, for better visibility:

https://www.mirasafety.com/collections/frontpage/products/cm-6m-tactical-gas-mask?avad=209887_e19407df1

[Mr.HappySilp]

Personally I'll wait for WHO to say it before I 100% believe it.

Don't really believe WHO at this point. They acted late, responded late with warnings(maybe have to do with Chin's grip on them? or they don't want to cause economy unrest?) And they totally bullshit when they ask countries not to close their boarders. And they actually believe China numbers and stats....:rukidding:

[UnknownJinX]

Don't really believe WHO at this point. They acted late, responded late with warnings(maybe have to do with Chin's grip on them? or they don't want to cause economy unrest?) And they totally bullshit when they ask countries not to close their boarders. And they actually believe China numbers and stats....:rukidding:

So who do you believe then?

I believe the idea behind not closing the border is that if the border is closed, some people will still find ways to sneak in and that's a lot harder to keep track of. With open borders, you could much better track who has been to China recently and quarantine as needed.

Now I am not saying I support or am against it, I am just stating the rationale behind the suggestion.

And who else's number would they publish? I know China's reported numbers are definitely not accurate, but at the same time this is probably the most credible source as far as WHO is concerned since it's still the official numbers reported by the legallt governing body.

[Hehe]

So who do you believe then?

I believe the idea behind not closing the border is that if the border is closed, some people will still find ways to sneak in and that's a lot harder to keep track of. With open borders, you could much better track who has been to China recently and quarantine as needed.

Now I am not saying I support or am against it, I am just stating the rationale behind the suggestion.

And who else's number would they publish? I know China's reported numbers are definitely not accurate, but at the same time this is probably the most credible source as far as WHO is concerned since it's still the official numbers reported by the legallt governing body.

It's an unfortunate cycle really.

Chinese gov't has a long history of understating/manipulating data to save face; to a point where some of their critical datas (such as GDP and what not) are taken as reference only and foreign entities who need the true data do estimations via their own methods to achieve a more objective view of real data.

This, in the event of a medical crisis is bad. When the gov't data has no credibility, FUDs fly too easily and CCP has to censor them. And while censoring some FUDs, they also censor some real data, making the gov't data unreliable. And the cycle continues.

They are getting a taste of their own poison... that's why there's a surge now in China asking for freedom of speech... which is part of their constitution... but we all know that's not gonna fly.

[320icar]

I’ve had a bunch of masks on order for at least 3 weeks now, just got an email and they cancelled the order and refunded the money. Guess I’ll die then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[yray]

so alot of chinese australians are in van now because australia is not allowing any one entry that was in china in the last 14 days

closed borders ftw

[UnknownJinX]

It's an unfortunate cycle really.

Chinese gov't has a long history of understating/manipulating data to save face; to a point where some of their critical datas (such as GDP and what not) are taken as reference only and foreign entities who need the true data do estimations via their own methods to achieve a more objective view of real data.

This, in the event of a medical crisis is bad. When the gov't data has no credibility, FUDs fly too easily and CCP has to censor them. And while censoring some FUDs, they also censor some real data, making the gov't data unreliable. And the cycle continues.

They are getting a taste of their own poison... that's why there's a surge now in China asking for freedom of speech... which is part of their constitution... but we all know that's not gonna fly.That I can agree.

I have a friend who is in Wuhan right now and he tells me that the numbers are definitely worse than the published figures from what he has seen.

[CorneringArtist]

On the lighter side of things...

https://twitter.com/HenryYinCNA/status/1225353782067744768?s=20

[BIC_BAWS]

so alot of chinese australians are in van now because australia is not allowing any one entry that was in china in the last 14 days

closed borders ftwOoh Chinese Aussies are hot af. Too bad they're infected

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[Expresso]

Ooh Chinese Aussies are hot af. Too bad they're infected

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LOL - This is definitely the lighter side.

[twitchyzero]

WHO/UN is useless because of China's influence

this outbreak is 9000% more effective in shifting the Chinese mindset on CCP's autocracy when compared to the HK protests

[Traum]

WHO/UN is useless because of China's influence

Unfortunately, our idiot federal government doesn't seem to understand that. In particular, our federal Health Minister also doesn't seem to understand that.
FailFish

[Derpdidoo]

another one bites the dust thx to CCP

https://theprovince.com/news/world/reporter-covering-the-coronavirus-in-wuhan-disappears/wcm/105d5af1-9316-422b-910b-30c0bec54775?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2oswGCR7ABn-BVGBztX4kDwFvveuaaaIrDWoblEby8bL_LGZRv_GsMoFY#Echo box=1581362542

[SkinnyPupp]

Don't really believe WHO at this point. They acted late, responded late with warnings(maybe have to do with Chin's grip on them? or they don't want to cause economy unrest?) And they totally bullshit when they ask countries not to close their boarders. And they actually believe China numbers and stats....:rukidding:
I think when it comes to something political, WHO will try as hard as they can to accommodate China, because if they don't, they know they'll just get kicked out of the country then we REALLY don't know what's going on.

If it's something like viral mutations, studies on transmission, etc, I think they are the most credible source within China. If it's proven to be spread via aerosol, they'd let us know. Unlike something like "the real death toll", I don't think there's any reason for them not to.

[gilly]

Over 1000 deaths now.

Just now from CNN:

The Hubei health authority reported that 103 more people died of the coronavirus in Hubei province on Monday, raising the death toll in the epidemic's epicenter to 974.

This brings the total number of deaths in mainland China to at least 1,011. Globally, a total of 1,013 people have died, including one death in Hong Kong and one in the Philippines.

Hubei authorities confirmed an additional 2,097 cases of the virus in Hubei on Monday, which brings the total number of cases in the region to 31,728.

More than 25,000 patients have been hospitalized in Hubei, including 1,298 who are in critical condition, according to the health authority. More than two thousand patients have been cured and discharged.

The global number of confirmed coronavirus cases now exceeds 42,500. The vast majority of cases remains in mainland China.

[twitchyzero]

aside from masks/gloves, cars and electronics, anything else expected to climb significantly in price this year from the virus?

[Mikoyan]

LOL - This is definitely the lighter side.

Saw this one from Taiwan. Car must have just reeked of alcohol.

After dousing his car in alcohol-based disinfectant, a Taiwanese man failed a breathalyzer test at a DUI checkpoint, local television news reported.

[welfare]

Looks like incubation period may be up to 24 days.
10 days longer than previously thought.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-incubation-period-symptoms-china-sars-length-days-time-a9326591.html

[StylinRed]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51453848

Bunch of higher up's were let go from their positions by the ccp, a red cross director was fired over stealing donations too wtf

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ over stealing lol. So if he didn't steal so much I guess it would be fine.

[6793026]

*wrong forum post..

[MG1]

Looks like incubation period may be up to 24 days.
10 days longer than previously thought.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-incubation-period-symptoms-china-sars-length-days-time-a9326591.html

Imagine "if" the virus is mutating. Worse case would be the type where it lays dormant after first affecting (entering) the patient. It seems like it's been cured, but comes back multiple times. Each time more violent and more contagious. Somewhat like chicken pox and shingles. A vaccine is developed, but the virus develops immunity to the anti-virus.

I've been watching too many sci-fi movies. Spores. Like Alien: Covenant. Gas masks, unless you wear the kind that covers the entire head, don't cut it when the spores enter through ears. :troll:


Bottleheads might have the last laugh.................... gulolol.

[Blueboy222]

4Head

[corollagtSr5]

Tried dimsum at 1030am western lake and it was hour and half wait. Ended up at Hoang yen.

[twitchyzero]

metrotown tnt had plenty of parking spots by the entrance at 5pm...that almost never happens

[SkinnyPupp]

Imagine "if" the virus is mutating. Worse case would be the type where it lays dormant after first affecting (entering) the patient. It seems like it's been cured, but comes back multiple times. Each time more violent and more contagious. Somewhat like chicken pox and shingles. A vaccine is developed, but the virus develops immunity to the anti-virus.

I've been watching too many sci-fi movies. Spores. Like Alien: Covenant. Gas masks, unless you wear the kind that covers the entire head, don't cut it when the spores enter through ears. :troll:


Bottleheads might have the last laugh.................... gulolol.
No this is absolutely a concern. If it hits enough people, and it's hitting a LOT, it's going to start mutating. Much like how we have a different influenza every year.

Someone asked if HK Canadians are considering moving back. If this becomes a seasonal "flu" coming from China every year, that's when I'd consider leaving.

For now, this is my home, and I just deal with it.

[StylinRed]

Automakers shutting down plants for a couple days due to lack of materials coming from China

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51441344

I didn't realize everyone sourced parts from china

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/10/21131118/mwc-2020-coronavirus-intel-sony-amazon-cancel
MWC lost a nice chunk of exhibitors over corona fears... Even tho it's held in Barcelona, and has banned anyone whose been to China

Edit: on a flight from Hawaii back to Vancouver, and about half the Air Canada crew are weari g masks, and using hand sanitizer after handling each passport

[SkinnyPupp]

We're legit about to run out of rice.. nobody has any LUL

Guess it's potatoes and pasta for a while... eat like white folks! Kappa

[Vansterdam]

All my orders from wish and AliExpress taking forever to ship .. shit I hope my packages aren't infected

[belka]

All my orders from wish and AliExpress taking forever to ship .. shit I hope my packages aren't infected
https://womensworldtoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/0_LrSVLDJjjpeg.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

The virus is now called COVID 19

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1227248333871173632

[twitchyzero]

sounds like a JAV title code

i'll show myself out

[Badhobz]

^you would know :)

[StylinRed]

Fucking air Canada didn't have a plane from Hawaii to Vancouver, they used a OAI Boeing and it was fukin horrible, felt ripped off!
To top it off my a flight from shanghai landed at the same time... They had the Hawaii flight use a different line at first, then just merged everyone together, eek

[MG1]

The virus is now called COVID 19

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1227248333871173632

At least it's an acronym now, instead of some abbreviation. It's now easier to pronounce.

Still corona virus, although not specific enough, will be easier to recognize by commoners.

Haters gonna hate and still call it the "China Virus".

[6793026]

How are Chinese restaurants in Vancouver/Richmond doing? Does it seem like less people are eating out?

The right in Richmond right above #3 road TD bank, issued a notice to all staff it will close on Feb 27. Nope, didn't even make it. Closed for operation as of last week.

Some dim sum joints are closing 2 days a week. wtf. (These are in Richmond as there are TONS of competition in Richmond.)

Geoduck are at EPIC right now. Couldn't say no to it and splurged and bought 2. Price didn't move that much but the quality / size are pretty legit.

King Crab are no long at $50-60 per pound, going to eat a 2 course tonight at $39.99/lbs.

[HonestTea]

The right in Richmond right above #3 road TD bank, issued a notice to all staff it will close on Feb 27. Nope, didn't even make it. Closed for operation as of last week.

Some dim sum joints are closing 2 days a week. wtf. (These are in Richmond as there are TONS of competition in Richmond.)

Geoduck are at EPIC right now. Couldn't say no to it and splurged and bought 2. Price didn't move that much but the quality / size are pretty legit.

King Crab are no long at $50-60 per pound, going to eat a 2 course tonight at $39.99/lbs.

King Crab at 39.99 is pretty good, where at?

[jackmeister]

The right in Richmond right above #3 road TD bank, issued a notice to all staff it will close on Feb 27. Nope, didn't even make it. Closed for operation as of last week.

Some dim sum joints are closing 2 days a week. wtf. (These are in Richmond as there are TONS of competition in Richmond.)

Geoduck are at EPIC right now. Couldn't say no to it and splurged and bought 2. Price didn't move that much but the quality / size are pretty legit.

King Crab are no long at $50-60 per pound, going to eat a 2 course tonight at $39.99/lbs.

Parklane was scheduled to close at end of Feb for renos into another concept. However due to the disaster its now closing 2 weeks early.

I heard from some people that work there + confirmed on Richmond News

[winson604]

The right in Richmond right above #3 road TD bank, issued a notice to all staff it will close on Feb 27. Nope, didn't even make it. Closed for operation as of last week.

Some dim sum joints are closing 2 days a week. wtf. (These are in Richmond as there are TONS of competition in Richmond.)

Geoduck are at EPIC right now. Couldn't say no to it and splurged and bought 2. Price didn't move that much but the quality / size are pretty legit.

King Crab are no long at $50-60 per pound, going to eat a 2 course tonight at $39.99/lbs.

Last night Sun Sui Wah on Main was $29.98 bruh

I went to Dai Tung on Kingsway Sunday night, it was their last night. They even had a big sad farewell dinner with some of the staff and they were definitely operating with skeleton crew that night. Anyway, they're closed now.

[Badhobz]

29.98 for king crab ?!?!! 4 realZ ?!?

[Vansterdam]

Last night Sun Sui Wah on Main was $29.98 bruh

I went to Dai Tung on Kingsway Sunday night, it was their last night. They even had a big sad farewell dinner with some of the staff and they were definitely operating with skeleton crew that night. Anyway, they're closed now.

closed for good or just temporary? dam i Loved dim sum there esp the deep fried spicy squid

[Traum]

I went to Dai Tung on Kingsway Sunday night, it was their last night. They even had a big sad farewell dinner with some of the staff and they were definitely operating with skeleton crew that night. Anyway, they're closed now.
Damn...?! Dai Tung on Kingsway is closed now?! The place has been there forever! I love their salt-baked chickens!

[winson604]

29.98 for king crab ?!?!! 4 realZ ?!?

100% but I don't know how long it's for, definitely was $29.98 last night though.

Vansterdam - No clue, when the wife called on the weekend to make a reso for dim sum for this Wed they made it sound like it was temp. They said we'll be closing for a while after Sunday because you know what's going on right now. Obviously, hinting that the virus is taking a hit to their business. When I was there Sunday night the way the table acted made it seem like forever but I didn't ask.

[HonestTea]

That's crazy and it's not even King Crab season yet!

[320icar]

At least it's an acronym now, instead of some abbreviation. It's now easier to pronounce.

Still corona virus, although not specific enough, will be easier to recognize by commoners.

Haters gonna hate and still call it the "China Virus".

Before you just now, I’ve not heard a single person or place call it the China virus.

[yray]

king crab gonna beat dungeness crab prices

:ahwow:

[MG1]

Before you just now, I’ve not heard a single person or place call it the China virus.

You’re not hanging out in places frequented by racists.............. gulolol.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/opinion/letter-calling-coronavirus-china-virus-is-racist-2075027

[Derpdidoo]

all this dim sum talk

https://www.dailywire.com/news/suitcase-full-of-dead-birds-from-china-intercepted-at-virginia-airport?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

[320icar]

You’re not hanging out in places frequented by racists.............. gulolol.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/opinion/letter-calling-coronavirus-china-virus-is-racist-2075027

I guess I’m just a typical millennial who doesn’t read the news paper. Totally missed that. I do sympathize and I wouldn’t personally call it that, but it is common. The Spanish flu? MERS is Middle East respiratory syndrome.

Everyone’s allowed to complain. Us whites fucking hate the bus ads with only mandarin and no English so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[StylinRed]

Haters gonna hate and still call it the "China Virus".

The last coronavirus was called MERS which stands for middle eastern respiratory syndrome, so I don't get why ppl are being so PC about this being called China virus, it's not even being called the Chinese virus :lol

[Hondaracer]

Chinese bat eating death disease, spread the word

[Derpdidoo]

tons of videos of forced quarantined in Wuhan. Glad the CCP is doing something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKek0Y30Ctw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2CKku-sh2UvPd4vHBZFInwLwm1j-B3og_A2CLRyOCy62eb_1hN3MKAFLM

[welfare]

https://youtu.be/TXpHD9bjGe0

[CivicBlues]

I guess I’m just a typical millennial who doesn’t read the news paper. Totally missed that. I do sympathize and I wouldn’t personally call it that, but it is common. The Spanish flu? MERS is Middle East respiratory syndrome.

The last coronavirus was called MERS which stands for middle eastern respiratory syndrome, so I don't get why ppl are being so PC about this being called China virus, it's not even being called the Chinese virus :lol

Spanish Flu was named over a hundred years ago when people were dumb and racist as fuck. In fact it started in the battlefields of WWI in France and it was named "Spanish Flu" because the Spanish media was not censored at the time, leading people to believe there were a ton of cases in Spain.

MERS was named after a geographical area. It would be much worse if it was called "Chinese Virus" but perhaps it's due to the negative connotations associated with China *blank* being used as a slur. Sorta how "Chinaman" is racist but not "Irishman" or "Frenchman"


Everyone’s allowed to complain. Us whites fucking hate the bus ads with only mandarin and no English so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

First of all, it's written Chinese, no need to qualify it as Mandarin as other dialect speakers can read it as well. Second, why would you care? The ad obviously isn't for you or me. I can't read Chinese either and it doesn't piss me off. In fact I'm glad for it, one less ad invading my headspace as far as I'm concerned.

Chinese bat eating death disease, spread the word
No reason to keep repeating this misinformation:
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup

But here's the thing, per Foreign Policy: That video in question reportedly wasn't filmed in Wuhan or China in general—the woman in the video, who news outlets have identified as Wang Mengyun, is a host of an online travel show who was actually eating a dish in Palau, an island country located in the western Pacific ocean. The video was also reportedly filmed in 2016—well before the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan. Mengyun has also reportedly apologized for the footage. "I am sorry everyone. I should not have eaten a bat," she said, according to the South China Morning Post. “[I] had no idea during filming that there was such a virus,” she continued. “I realized it only recently.”


It is pretty apparent though that this outbreak has been racialized much more than other recent ones including SARS(China), MERS (Saudi, Korea), H1N1(Mexico). Perhaps because of the size and drastic measures being taken have made it a huge news story. Again, calling it "China VIrus" is not racist in itself, but the intent is there to perhaps rile up some of the more unenlightened idiots out there.

But here's some bedtime reading for ya'll:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia_and_racism_related_to_the_2019%E2%80%93 20_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak

[Mr.HappySilp]

Plane ticket to Beijing in March got cancel from Air Canada. Got an email that just said they cancel my ticket. However, no updates on their website. Want to call about the refund and stuff been on hold since 11am......
Heard from the in laws Beijing and Shanghai is starting limited trains going in and out of the city same with flight. Shit is getting real.

[Hondaracer]

Shit like this is almost always going to originate in places like China etc. Where people are literally living on top of one another in such densely populated cities and neighborhoods

Think about the amount of people you interact with on a daily basis. I think I probably work in a workplace with more exposure to people than your typical workplace and I MIGHT be around 30 people on any given day

Now I’ve never been to China or Wuhan but I can imagine you may run into hundreds if not thousands of people just walking a few blocks. The risk for contact is crazy

[MG1]

Spanish Flu was named over a hundred years ago when people were dumb and racist as fuck. In fact it started in the battlefields of WWI in France and it was named "Spanish Flu" because the Spanish media was not censored at the time, leading people to believe there were a ton of cases in Spain.

I only know of Spanish Flea, the song, by Herb Alpert.............

oh, and Spanish Fly, ftmfw!

https://www.healthline.com/health/spanish-fly-drug

[Jmac]

Shit like this is almost always going to originate in places like China etc. Where people are literally living on top of one another in such densely populated cities and neighborhoods

Think about the amount of people you interact with on a daily basis. I think I probably work in a workplace with more exposure to people than your typical workplace and I MIGHT be around 30 people on any given day

Now I’ve never been to China or Wuhan but I can imagine you may run into hundreds if not thousands of people just walking a few blocks. The risk for contact is crazy
Meanwhile, these things never seem to originate from other densely-populated areas like Japan ...

[twitchyzero]

this thread is now about alaskan king crabs in vancouver

i miss the $15/lbs days...apparently they just limit the amount that can be caught and many go to china now...hence no more king crab season locally

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/10/ca/4d/a8/steamed-king-crab-leg.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

No reason to keep repeating this misinformation:
https://www.health.com/condition/inf...virus-bat-soup
Agree with everything you said, and yeah that idiot eating the bat was mostly perfect timing, but the "COVID-19" genome is 96% similar to a bat coronavirus (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7), so it almost definitely came from a bat. It would have had to go through another species first though, and right now they are suspecting it was the pangolin, since they found a coronavirus on them that is 99% similar (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/07/c_138763566.htm) to "COVID-19"

Calling it "China Virus" is absolutely racist - it was never called that to begin with, but racists are using the name now. In case anyone was curious, the Hong Kong subreddit is absolutely ruined now, filled with anti-China racists from all over the world, mostly Australia and USA. They insist on calling it things like "China Virus" and "WARS" and the sub is filled with racist propaganda. Their live thread is still useful, but the subreddit itself is a lost cause.

[320icar]

What does the ‘wars’ stand for. Wuhan something respiratory syndrome?

Also civicblues: simmer down. I’m not attacking you

[SkinnyPupp]

What does the ‘wars’ stand for. Wuhan something respiratory syndrome?

Also civicblues: simmer down. I’m not attacking you
That's the idea. They love the that they could use "war". They promoted violence constantly during the protests

[Hondaracer]

Meanwhile, these things never seem to originate from other densely-populated areas like Japan ...

Cultural differences?

Also I’m not sure but I would think personal wealth in Japan, and especially in the most densely populated centres is far greater

[Teriyaki]

Cultural differences?

Also I’m not sure but I would think personal wealth in Japan, and especially in the most densely populated centres is far greater

Entirely possible that a public toilet here in Japan is cleaner than some peoples toilets at home :accepted:
The word clean, is taken to next level. A country of OCD

[MG1]

Even the monkeys there are clean and polite.

[CivicBlues]

What does the ‘wars’ stand for. Wuhan something respiratory syndrome?

Also civicblues: simmer down. I’m not attacking you

sorry if I came across as belligerent, that wasn't my intent.

[twitchyzero]

so they're leaving at least 2 weeks of food/meds before welding the door?

[320icar]

so they're leaving at least 2 weeks of food/meds before welding the door?

That was one of my questions. What if a fire breaks out. Everyone’s done for :(

[StylinRed]

MERS was named after a geographical area. It would be much worse if it was called "Chinese Virus" but perhaps it's due to the negative connotations associated with China *blank* being used as a slur. Sorta how "Chinaman" is racist but not "Irishman" or "Frenchman"


Exactly my point, China is a geographic location, middle eastern is less geographic than it is ethnic, but they're both geographic, I'd agree with all the PC outcry if these were called the arab or chinese respiratory syndrome

The racism as you put it, is coming from us Chinese not in China, we're probably the most outspoken "eww not again mainlanders" "eww mainlanders be fucked up" "stay away from mainlanders" white ppl are just like "not again China, sigh, always Doin crazy shit"
It seems more like white ppl are shocked by the craziness, while other chinese/asians are getting nasty

[StylinRed]

so they're leaving at least 2 weeks of food/meds before welding the door?

Nope they get food deliveries etc from a pulley up to their apartment, only if they have cash though, otherwise good luck

[Mr.HappySilp]

Nope they get food deliveries etc from a pulley up to their apartment, only if they have cash though, otherwise good luck

There is always wecaht pay or just use the red pocket function. In laws are saying going to the supermarket you have to get your temperature taken like 7 times before you get to the supermarket. Is annoying as hell lol. Oh and they have police driving around if they see anyone wandering around they ask you to go back home
Unless you are working, going to work, supermarket they want you to stay indoor.

[eclipseman]

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/02/harvard-expert-says-coronavirus-likely-just-gathering-steam/

Well that's not cool...only a matter of time. Hope everyone is prepped!

[ilovebacon]

There is always wecaht pay or just use the red pocket function. In laws are saying going to the supermarket you have to get your temperature taken like 7 times before you get to the supermarket. Is annoying as hell lol. Oh and they have police driving around if they see anyone wandering around they ask you to go back home
Unless you are working, going to work, supermarket they want you to stay indoor.

I guess they'll die if they don't have any money for food and cant work.

[RRxtar]

Just to race bait, what percentage of the people who've gotten the coronavorus are of non Chinese desent? Could it still be racist to call it the China virus if ONLY Chinese DNA could contract it? Hypothetically speaking.

Just making conversation. No ill intent

[Badhobz]

contagion contagion contagion!!!!

That movie is so on the nose it’s not even funny.

[SkinnyPupp]

Just to race bait, what percentage of the people who've gotten the coronavorus are of non Chinese desent? Could it still be racist to call it the China virus if ONLY Chinese DNA could contract it? Hypothetically speaking.

Just making conversation. No ill intent
Not sure what value there would be in this hypothetical... At that point, I don't think the name would matter, as they would be busy trying to figure out why it would only attack those of a specific ethnicity. Biological terrorism would be on everyone's mind

[320icar]

I’m not a geneticist, but I’d be curious to know if there is enough difference in human DNA between races to reliably infect one group and not cross to the others. If that was possible, fuck thats a scary thought.

[StylinRed]

Nope

Theyve tried

[Red 5]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QXvh8fVPI&feature=emb_title&time_continue=257

[welfare]

Possible airborne transmission

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/coronavirus-updates-virus-is-said-to-spread-through-apartment-buildings-pipes/ar-BBZSbFO?li=BBr8YXK

[MG1]

contagion contagion contagion!!!!

That movie is so on the nose it’s not even funny.


Not going to get this intense, but this television series was one of my favourites back then...........

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the-last-ship



As skinny once said, "It's for people who like, GI Joe."

[RiceIntegraRS]

https://youtu.be/TAafDOqfN3M

I guess this answers the question if only chinese can be infected

[winson604]

It's ok I think I just saw on the news that Trump stated with the heat coming the virus is going away. We're saved!

[StylinRed]

https://youtu.be/TAafDOqfN3M

I guess this answers the question if only chinese can be infected

I i don't think that was ever a question...

[Rallydrv]

really think this wont be easy fix, as its so easy to jump from person to person. also wonder if somebody gets the virus, gets better, can they get it again or antibodies within develop. hope vaccine comes out soon but prob a year + away.

[SkinnyPupp]

They've been making 90,000 masks a day (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3048971/coronavirus-officers-join-inmates-hong-kongs) for over a week now

There's no sign of these masks showing up in public. No public program for poor people, insufficient masks for hospital workers... Even clinics have to close because the doctors don't have enough masks.

Joshua Wong brought in 100K masks from the US to give away and sell for below cost. Pro govt people criticized him for not getting more. FailFish Other pro govt people are saying they should do another $10K giveaway, so people can afford to buy these masks that are out there for 10X the price FailFish

Where are these masks going?

[SkinnyPupp]

https://youtu.be/TAafDOqfN3M

I guess this answers the question if only chinese can be infected
She's very fortunate to not only be asymptomatic, but quarantined in Tokyo instead of some podunk town China LUL

[StylinRed]

bbc/china are trying to say the outbreaks over hmmm


And just as they were patting their backs, deadliest day yet

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51482994

14k+ new cases, and 242 more deaths

[SkinnyPupp]

bbc/china are trying to say the outbreaks over hmmm


And just as they were patting their backs, deadliest day yet

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51482994

14k+ new cases, and 242 more deaths
wtf why would they say that? it's barely even getting started, and we will never know the actual damage FailFish

[MG1]

https://youtu.be/TAafDOqfN3M

I guess this answers the question if only chinese can be infected

Are you kidding? She's chinese........... She's really an asian Ethan Hunt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn6FJ6BUXIE

[$_$]

bbc/china are trying to say the outbreaks over hmmm


And just as they were patting their backs, deadliest day yet

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51482994

14k+ new cases, and 242 more deaths

They changed the way of stats is tallied from diagnosis through actual testing to signs of showing symptoms. This gives a more accurate picture of actual infected vs before, which is an improvement on transparency (as far as I understand the situation)

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/thgysyl6agg41.jpg

[twitchyzero]

spring break's only a month out now and the cases are seriously flaring up...this outbreak is showing no signs of containment in the region

might table east asia trip...which seemed like a ridiculous idea just weeks ago but for non-essential travel it's looking more like mitigation is the way to go

American Airlines pushing HK/China flights out by TEN weeks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2020/02/11/american-airlines-extends-china-flight-cancellations-through-april/

[SkinnyPupp]

HK School closure extended another month

Rugby Sevens postponed indefinitely

[cafe22]

https://nationalpost.com/news/kim-jong-un-executes-north-korea-official-who-used-public-bath-while-in-coronavirus-quarantine-reports

HK govnt should learn from North Korea (best Korea) WutFace

[SkinnyPupp]

First patient dies in Japan. That's 3 deaths outside China, 1483 within. 2.29% death rate (SARS was 6.6% in China. Flu is about 0.1%)

[twitchyzero]

a doctor and a young guy in japan infected with NO travel history/contact with Chinese nationals

damn. that could easily be vancouver.

[Mr.Money]

possible bird transmission?...


lets say they stepped on some bird droppings with there shoes,came home,touched the shoe taking it off and bam...started eatting without washing hands and sick

[68style]

Buddy of mine is on a layover in Shanghai right now, it's like soft martial law there he can't even find food... no stores or restaurants open... need to take a card and get it stamped if you leave the hotel, allowed to leave once per day. He sent me all these pictures over wechat of the Bund almost totally empty in the middle of the day, hardly a single person in sight.

It's a lot crazier than they're letting on I think..........

[Euro7r]

With all this chaos happening in other parts of the world, truly blessed to be living here. I won't complain about how expensive it here anymore

[Rallydrv]

the world need to learn how to cough or sneeze and basic personal hygiene. sneeze/cough in ur elbow or handkerchief etc.+ People need to learn how to wash hands.

i still freaking see guys not washing hands even after using bathroom. disgusting. dont remember, for years i have purell in my car, as soon as i get in, i use it, and specially after filling up gas.

human tendency is to touch face/etc without washing hands, so wearing goggles and mask basically (or a bottle cut out for that matter) help people from touching face.

[bcedhk]

I hate people say "sorry" or "pardon me" rather than do the proper thing when they are sick and sneezing (cover mouth, wear a mask, or just dont go to work/take transit

[welfare]

With all this chaos happening in other parts of the world, truly blessed to be living here. I won't complain about how expensive it here anymore

Given the fragile state of our economy right now, I'd be more concerned with the financial fallout of this virus.

The 14 regions that were shutdown earlier this month make up 69% of China's gdp. The ccp has been injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy to ease the bleeding.
Considering how interconnected the global economy is, and the increasing trend of infections, this virus is likely to impact the economy quite severely in the coming days.

[StylinRed]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51491763


The test for corona gives false negatives, some ppl required several tests, or testing when their illness was at an advanced state, before producing a positive



Also new case in BC, woman in her 30s, returned from shanghai, living in the interior
https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/02/14/new-presumptive-case-of-covid-19-in-b-c/

[Badhobz]

i still freaking see guys not washing hands even after using bathroom. disgusting

Yeah but how many people just rinse their hands with just water and consider that washing your hands. That’s like 90% of the dudes in my office building. Rinsing with water aint doing jack shit

[GS8]

The one thing that always gets overlooked is your eyes. Never rub your eyes with dirty hands. Your tear ducts will absorb whatever filth was on your fingers.

[Simplex123]

Yeah but how many people just rinse their hands with just water and consider that washing your hands. That’s like 90% of the dudes in my office building. Rinsing with water aint doing jack shit

I see that all the time. But there also needs to be a standard for public washrooms.. A lot of washrooms are now installing hand dryers and cutting down on paper use - which is good (a whole other issue regarding the cleanliness of those machines...). But they don't have sensors on their faucets, and they still have a twist knob or pull handle on their doors. So after your hands are dry you still have to touch these contaminated surfaces again before leaving the washroom - totally defeating the purpose of hand washing.

To be honest all public washrooms should be installing these:
https://hw.menardc.com/main/items/media/STEPN002/ProductLarge/Scene.jpg

[JDM GTO]

a doctor and a young guy in japan infected with NO travel history/contact with Chinese nationals

damn. that could easily be vancouver.

A taxi driver was infected, so it’s spreading pretty fast here (in Tokyo). The guy in his 20s travels to Tokyo so most likely where he got infected.

https://japantoday.com/category/national/Coronavirus-infection-cases-spread-further-in-Japan

[ilovebacon]

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/vancouver-news/fifth-case-coronavirus-confirmed-bc-2094855

[Fafine]

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/new-study-shows-how-long-coronaviruses-can-live-on-inanimate-objects-and-surfaces/

[SkinnyPupp]

They've been making 90,000 masks a day (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3048971/coronavirus-officers-join-inmates-hong-kongs) for over a week now

There's no sign of these masks showing up in public. No public program for poor people, insufficient masks for hospital workers... Even clinics have to close because the doctors don't have enough masks.

Joshua Wong brought in 100K masks from the US to give away and sell for below cost. Pro govt people criticized him for not getting more. FailFish Other pro govt people are saying they should do another $10K giveaway, so people can afford to buy these masks that are out there for 10X the price FailFish

Where are these masks going?
Some HK govt made masks have been spotted, being worn by random citizens in China

https://twitter.com/MandyLeeDUBHKG/status/1228118467599110150

[SkinnyPupp]

Buddy of mine is on a layover in Shanghai right now, it's like soft martial law there he can't even find food... no stores or restaurants open... need to take a card and get it stamped if you leave the hotel, allowed to leave once per day. He sent me all these pictures over wechat of the Bund almost totally empty in the middle of the day, hardly a single person in sight.

It's a lot crazier than they're letting on I think..........
I've been saying that since the beginning! I don't think "the west" is suppressing information, but they definitely aren't taking it seriously enough. Information from China is hard to get, because everyone who is covering it from a non government perspective is being disappeared.

And to make it clear again - I'm not saying everyone should freak out. But DO take it seriously. This is NOT "basically the flu". All those comparisons to the flu based on symptoms and overall numbers are doing so much harm.

Even Singapore is fucking themselves over, with the govt constantly telling people not to wear masks unless they're already sick. We saw that American lady who is quarantined in Japan. She literally didn't have ANY symptoms, and was tested by chance and tested positive. She could have been spreading it all over the place without even knowing she had it. It's no surprise that Singapore has more infections than HK, despite HK being right on the border with 20K mainlanders coming in daily until they closed the border

If you don't have masks, hand wash, bleach, rubbing alcohol (and maybe gloves) go get some now. Don't use it yet, but have it on hand. Because if an outbreak occurs in Vancouver, people are going to go INSANE and you won't be able to get it.

[StylinRed]

I think it's ridiculous that at yvr ppl flying in from China can queue up with all arrivals to pass through immigration, and then they're not tested, they're just asked if theyre good

[SkinnyPupp]

I think it's ridiculous that at yvr ppl flying in from China can queue up with all arrivals to pass through immigration, and then they're not tested, they're just asked if theyre good
Well you were just in a flying tube with them for 12 hours so... Kappa

[StylinRed]

lol I flew in after a week in Hawaii, I wasn't on the shanghai to yvr flight, but I was in the same queue to get thru immigration

[SkinnyPupp]

lol I flew in after a week in Hawaii, I wasn't on the shanghai to yvr flight, but I was in the same queue to get thru immigration
Oh I see what you're saying.. Yeah that's definitely not taking things seriously enough. But they aren't quarantining anyone are they?

[StylinRed]

No quarantine and what's worse is they weren't sanitizing the computer checkin machines either
I appreciated how in Hong Kong/Taiwan, the malls, restaurants, airports etc would constantly have people cleaning door handles etc. The taiwan/hk airport had people sanitizing the floors even as people exited the gates

[Amuse]

Yeah that's definitely not taking things seriously enough. NO

This is probably the same for all Canadian airports and major Canadian ones that take flights in from China/HK. The government is not enforcing more strict rules.
Is this the same at Toronto?

[Amuse]

I think it's ridiculous that at yvr ppl flying in from China can queue up with all arrivals to pass through immigration, and then they're not tested, they're just asked if theyre good
Won't most people say they are good?

[Mr.HappySilp]

I've been saying that since the beginning! I don't think "the west" is suppressing information, but they definitely aren't taking it seriously enough. Information from China is hard to get, because everyone who is covering it from a non government perspective is being disappeared.

And to make it clear again - I'm not saying everyone should freak out. But DO take it seriously. This is NOT "basically the flu". All those comparisons to the flu based on symptoms and overall numbers are doing so much harm.

Even Singapore is fucking themselves over, with the govt constantly telling people not to wear masks unless they're already sick. We saw that American lady who is quarantined in Japan. She literally didn't have ANY symptoms, and was tested by chance and tested positive. She could have been spreading it all over the place without even knowing she had it. It's no surprise that Singapore has more infections than HK, despite HK being right on the border with 20K mainlanders coming in daily until they closed the border

If you don't have masks, hand wash, bleach, rubbing alcohol (and maybe gloves) go get some now. Don't use it yet, but have it on hand. Because if an outbreak occurs in Vancouver, people are going to go INSANE and you won't be able to get it.


I have said it pages back. There are literally no mask left. All sold out in Van. You can still find some mask but they are for dust (saw some at wal mart earlier today). Places like London drugs do have stocks coming in weekly but you have 20+ Chinese lining up 30+ mins before the store even opens so good luck trying to get them. Rubbing alcohol was out of stock but there seem to be some now but most stores are limiting the number of bottles you can purchase. wet ones antibacterial hand wipes you can still buy them (the travel size is harder to come by but the rolls ones you can find them easily), Lysol Disinfecting wipes aren't running out (coz you can use them on your skin). hand sanitizer are pretty much sold out. You can still find them online but they are overpriced.

Regarding wearing mask in Van. I don't think that's really needed yet. Today while at shoppers saw this poor Chinese student being talk down on by this white dude for wearing a mask, spreading her disease around and just being racist towards her. Also saw a Chines student wearing a mask, surgery gloves and sunglasses on the other day. I mean sure wear a mask but don't wear those plastic gloves, if you really want maybe wear a thin pair of leather gloves at least you won't stand out so much.

[ilovebacon]

Won't most people say they are good?

How are you feeling? I'm good.

[SkinnyPupp]

Turns out building a hospital in 7 days is actually as hard as it sounds :considered:

https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1228593622787903488

I think I read that out of the 1000 intended beds, only about 30 are usable. And there are like 3000 new cases every day anyway so...

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2-YxWkRxk

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1228435515776667649

https://twitter.com/Nectar_Gan/status/1228618288898310144

I don't even know what to say... This goes beyond any amount of local silencing we all thought they were doing.

I'm sure people will brush it off like "it's China we all knew they are using Wuhan as a scapegoat" but... don't brush it off!

Depending on how much this thing fucks over the rest of the world, I am afraid to fathom what the response may be...

[UnknownJinX]

I have said it pages back. There are literally no mask left. All sold out in Van. You can still find some mask but they are for dust (saw some at wal mart earlier today). Places like London drugs do have stocks coming in weekly but you have 20+ Chinese lining up 30+ mins before the store even opens so good luck trying to get them. Rubbing alcohol was out of stock but there seem to be some now but most stores are limiting the number of bottles you can purchase. wet ones antibacterial hand wipes you can still buy them (the travel size is harder to come by but the rolls ones you can find them easily), Lysol Disinfecting wipes aren't running out (coz you can use them on your skin). hand sanitizer are pretty much sold out. You can still find them online but they are overpriced.



Regarding wearing mask in Van. I don't think that's really needed yet. Today while at shoppers saw this poor Chinese student being talk down on by this white dude for wearing a mask, spreading her disease around and just being racist towards her. Also saw a Chines student wearing a mask, surgery gloves and sunglasses on the other day. I mean sure wear a mask but don't wear those plastic gloves, if you really want maybe wear a thin pair of leather gloves at least you won't stand out so much.

This exactly. Good luck getting masks.

Their effectiveness is questionable as well given how most people(that are not medical professionals) don't use them properly anyway. May as well reserve them for people who truly need them.

The mask is actually more effective at being a social statement than it prevents the virus. On top of the facts that I can't feasibly purchase one and it's effectiveness is questionable unless you have boxes of them and switch often, I wouldn't want to be a stick in the mud.

Keep calm, keep your hands clean, practice basic hygiene etiquettes, and you will be just fine.

[hud 91gt]

Tip: go to any small town. N95s are everywhere. Anywhere without a huge Chinese population are in stock. I saw a ton of them in hardware stores on the island last weekend (I’m talking small towns. I was in HD in Duncan but did not check. I’d consider this a large town).

[6793026]

I dont know man, I was at Yellowknife.. town of 10k people.. but due to tourists, no one had any n95.

You would need to go to any buck fuck no where town like 102 mile house in order to find them.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Even in Yukon and Winnipeg relatives are reporting no mask on top of Calgary and Toronto.

[SpeedStars]

Does anyone know if the autobody masks with p100 filters would also do the job? I've got a few and it seems that you could buy those ones easily in Vancouver (for now)

[StylinRed]

They work better

[RiceIntegraRS]

Does anyone know if the autobody masks with p100 filters would also do the job? I've got a few and it seems that you could buy those ones easily in Vancouver (for now)

I stated this in a previous post

The P100 filters out 99.97% of particulates in the air, they are also Oil Proof and they last 30 days/40hrs of use

The N95 filters out 95% of particulates in the air, are not Oil Proof and are only meant for single use.

N - Not oil resistant
R - Resistant to oil
P - Oil Proof

95 - Removes 95% of all particles that are at least 0.3 microns in diameter
99 - Removes 99% of particles that are at least 0.3 microns in diameter
100 - Removes 99.97% of all particles that are 0.3 microns in diameter or larger. HE or HEPA quality filter.

[hud 91gt]

I dont know man, I was at Yellowknife.. town of 10k people.. but due to tourists, no one had any n95.

You would need to go to any buck fuck no where town like 102 mile house in order to find them.

Yellowknife is a big city in my eyes. Lol. If it has a Walmart, it’s big.

Small, privately owned hardware stores, some home hardware stores (the little ones, Jim Home Hardware) has them. Atleast in the area I was in while searching for some quick setting mortar. Lol. Any of the chains have too good of inventory. Haha.

[yray]

concern with respirators is virus or particles stuck on to the plastic housing and exposure during install/removal

[Mr.HappySilp]

Was at T and T in Coq center today. Seems like the amount of people haven't change (still pretty pack) but more people wearing mask.

[spoon.ek9]

I've definitely noticed the amount of people in Richmond centre decline (most obvious in the food court). Today being Saturday, Aberdeen is usually real busy too but the numbers have dropped there as well.

It's pretty funny to see people (mostly younger people) wearing n95 masks improperly. You might as well wear nothing because it ain't doing shit for you. For the most part, people are only wearing masks to make themselves feel better about the situation which is low risk around here anyways.

[HonestTea]

Was over in Indianapolis last week and was able find all types of N95 mask

[welfare]

Looks like plasma transfusions from recovered hosts can reduce the effects in critical patients.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-14/china-seeks-plasma-from-recovered-patients-for-coronavirus-cure

China’s state-owned medical products maker is collecting plasma from the blood of people who have recovered from the novel coronavirus after discovering it helped critically ill patients.

China National Biotec Group Co. has been using this plasma, which contains highly potent antibodies, to treat more than 10 seriously ill patients since Feb. 8, the company said in an statement on its official WeChat account Thursday night. It claimed that those receiving the treatment improved within 24 hours, with reduced inflammation and viral loads along with better oxygen levels in the blood.

Drugmakers and the Chinese authorities are racing to develop a cure for the contagion that has so far killed more than 1,300 people, infected over 63,000 and has no approved treatment or vaccine. China has also unleashed a flurry of clinical trials -- as many as 77 have been registered -- in a bid to curb the outbreak that’s threatening its economic growth.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/Faisal0343Aziz/status/1228781025645469696

[Rallydrv]

^ can we keep the blockade forever. Maybe crazy glue it :smug:. Or, maybe just around China border

[twitchyzero]

how effective is that? just stack a chair/box and you can climb over?

[sonick]

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/richmond-resident-who-spent-1-000-on-dust-masks-for-coronavirus-warning-others-not-to-do-the-same-1.24077418

Woman spends $1000 on paper dust masks to send to China.

[G]

For the masks that you can use for numerous times, how do you even maintain/clean/take care of them?

[B!tch]

At 1:30 today, Home Hardware on Edmonds in Burnaby had a sign saying they had N95 masks.

[SkinnyPupp]

For the masks that you can use for numerous times, how do you even maintain/clean/take care of them?
Handwash with detergent

Note you can't clean the actual filters - pollution will still be in them until they are filled up. But this gets your nasty breath and nose sweat off the surface, as well as whatever might hit the outside of it

[Edison_Chen]

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/richmond-resident-who-spent-1-000-on-dust-masks-for-coronavirus-warning-others-not-to-do-the-same-1.24077418

Woman spends $1000 on paper dust masks to send to China.

When I went by there Friday night, they still had lots of boxes lefties they crossed off the old price and write a new price.

[asian_XL]

is it true that UPS now prohibit sending mask to Asia? my sis-in-law just sent some N95 over and they said this week there will no more mask exporting from Canada. WTF

[SkinnyPupp]

is it true that UPS now prohibit sending mask to Asia? my sis-in-law just sent some N95 over and they said this week there will no more mask exporting from Canada. WTF
Some types of masks were being blocked, as they were commonly used by people protecting themselves from police tear gas attacks. I think they have lifted the ban as of yesterday.

[J____]

Not sure about masks shipped from abroad, but recently masks bought by individuals are being confiscated and sent to the front line for use by doctors and medical professionals. They go through the packages and if they find a mask it gets taken.

[6793026]

is it true that UPS now prohibit sending mask to Asia? my sis-in-law just sent some N95 over and they said this week there will no more mask exporting from Canada. WTF

as mentioned before, you are put in the risk of the courier stealing the n95 than you shipping them. Obviously if you ship the entire original box is even more tempting.

Again, if you mail it in a brown box, there is no legal written binding law stating there are no export of mask out of Canada.

Commercial and industrial mask (dentist, private practices, health care, test labs, universities) are still being shipped in and out of Canada on a daily basis.

[twitchyzero]

need Astm lvl 3 at work but our supplier has run out

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/rthk_enews/status/1229038818415632384

Quarantine method has been stepped up, as people have been bailing on their quarantines. They used to do phone calls to confirm location ("are you where you're supposed to be?" "yup, I promise Kappa ")

But now you have to use tracking software (I think Whatsapp or Wechat) or wear an ankle bracelet.

I will say that all of Hong Kong should be thanking the protesters for killing the tourism industry before this virus broke out. If the tourism wasn't severely depressed going into this year's CNY travel, we would have been soooooooooo fucked.

This year, before any border controls, Lo Wu would saw around 78K travelers (including HK and non HK residents, and this includes both directions). SZ Bay: 43K Lok Ma Chau: 36K

Last year these numbers were 242K, 141K and 132K (https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/press/press-releases/20190128.html)

So before any border controls, we were at 150K from 515K, and are now at 3K daily travelers. I wish I could find the numbers for mainland visitors only, I bet it's even more significant.

Either way, protesters are saving HK in more than a few ways. SeemsGood

[Amuse]

Since February 8, Hong Kong residents who return home from the mainland have been required to quarantine themselves at home for 14 days, or face a six-month jail term and HK$25,000 fine.

Non-residents have to stay in their hotels, other pre-arranged accomodations, or be kept in a quarantine camp.

The new measure is aimed at making sure they obey the quarantine.
So how about people who come from the mainland to Canada? They are just asked "Are you good?" and then they can roam free? Or they are just encouraged to self isolate themselves at home for at least 14 days without meeting other people?

[SkinnyPupp]

We're down to our last 10 rolls of TP, and that's with 2 women in the house :heckno:

Also have yet to find rice. We might end up getting someone to send us some from Japan or elsewhere

In the meantime:

https://twitter.com/jeffielam/status/1229264376340742146

[Tim Budong]

the toilet paper thing is fucking retarded

[whitev70r]

What is the correlation between Coronavirus and low TP supply? Factories shut down?

[asian_XL]

there is no low TP supply, just stupid online rumour causing C-lais to buy shit load of TPs

[68style]

Man... internet propaganda is seriously destroying society in the absence of critical thinking

[SkinnyPupp]

there is no low TP supply, just stupid online rumour causing C-lais to buy shit load of TPs
Yup that's mostly what it is. Stupid and selfish people are panicking and taking WAY more than they need, not only ruining it for literally the entire country, but they're going to end up being stuck with tons of useless TP once mold sets in over summer time.

Update: I got some TP! They would bring out boxes of new stock, and people would grab it as soon as the boxes were opened. There's no choice what brand you get, unless you want to wait and see what the next box is going to be. If you want a specific (usually cheaper) brand, you have to wait and hope to win some fights over others looking for that brand.

Rice was easier, but again only one brand. Thai long grain rice that I usually don't buy but it'll have to do for now.

Goods from China are definitely coming in slower than usual, but thankfully there's enough supply from other countries. It's not even always more expensive either. One of the biggest concerns (for me at least) is with a complete border shutdown, we'd be relying 100% on imports from countries other than China. That was also (allegedly) a concern when debating the handover.

[Teriyaki]

Yup that's mostly what it is. Stupid and selfish people are panicking and taking WAY more than they need, not only ruining it for literally the entire country, but they're going to end up being stuck with tons of useless TP once mold sets in over summer time.

Update: I got some TP! They would bring out boxes of new stock, and people would grab it as soon as the boxes were opened. There's no choice what brand you get, unless you want to wait and see what the next box is going to be. If you want a specific (usually cheaper) brand, you have to wait and hope to win some fights over others looking for that brand.

Rice was easier, but again only one brand. Thai long grain rice that I usually don't buy but it'll have to do for now.

Goods from China are definitely coming in slower than usual, but thankfully there's enough supply from other countries. It's not even always more expensive either. One of the biggest concerns (for me at least) is with a complete border shutdown, we'd be relying 100% on imports from countries other than China. That was also (allegedly) a concern when debating the handover.

Good on ya. I just went out for a non perishable supply run here (Tokyo). I usually only have a day or two worth of food since everything is so convenient. I feel that shit is going to hit the fan in Japan soon. I think we're one of the few Asian countries that didn't quarantine anyone, and didn't cut flights to China...Message from the health minister is now "avoid all non-essential gatherings" and "avoid any crowded trains". So basically, 99% of working adults, and anyone that rides the train is... yea...:heckno:

[Mr.Money]

^^^ that's so fucking stupid.


tokyo is one of the busiest places in the entire fucking universe,its like they want to thin out the herd and say "Good Luck!"..



FailFish

[Digitalis]

Now they are offering money to rat out any "sick" neighbors on the mainland.
I wonder if your a billionare if you can buy your way out when the quarantine van comes for yo ass.

[6793026]

I don't understand why people are fighting over rice. When was the last time you ever went and bought rice from China????? Most of hte time it's Thailand and Australia, so there won't be any demand / supply shortage.

The reason for China TP was due to "factory going to shut down operation" and people went ape shit. There is one justification, at least in Hong Kong, you aren't able to put "premium Italian made" toilet paper, so people THINK all TP are from China.

Do you know HOW long it'll take to use up 1 roll of toilet paper, let along the entire 12 roll in a pack? In Canada or US, sure you have space, but this is a 250-500 sq ft apartment... WTF do you have space to store....

I can't even comprehend this picture.
https://i.ibb.co/s1qq4Cw/tp.png

This lady is over doing it but I have to say, she must be loaded cause it ain't cheap. It's 2k+ CDN for a full 3M Versaflo
https://i.ibb.co/PNKXnpS/mask.png

[cafe22]

govnt should suggest this to help reduce TP usage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSQHNYBuz4&frags=pl%2Cwn

I was at Home Depot earlier, and they had N95 masks for 6.95 each wtf! But these were the type with a non-rebreather valve at the front.... That said, there were still a bunch of aunties who filled their basket with it. 3M execs are laughing their way to the bank this month.

[asian_XL]

I don't understand why people are fighting over rice. When was the last time you ever went and bought rice from China????? Most of hte time it's Thailand and Australia, so there won't be any demand / supply shortage.

The reason for China TP was due to "factory going to shut down operation" and people went ape shit. There is one justification, at least in Hong Kong, you aren't able to put "premium Italian made" toilet paper, so people THINK all TP are from China.

Do you know HOW long it'll take to use up 1 roll of toilet paper, let along the entire 12 roll in a pack? In Canada or US, sure you have space, but this is a 250-500 sq ft apartment... WTF do you have space to store....

I can't even comprehend this picture.


This lady is over doing it but I have to say, she must be loaded cause it ain't cheap. It's 2k+ CDN for a full 3M Versaflo


You might not understand a lot of stuff in Hong Kong. When 99% of the Hongers think it is choas, 1 or 2 C-lai would suddenly go crazy and go buy all the rice at the supermarket. Thanks to the govn't is doing nothing to prevent or educate the public in advance.

When I see the TP rack in supermarket is empty for 1 week, even a normal Honger would buy 2-3x more than normal and demand continues.

I wore my 3M 6200 mask to supermarket once when my mask ran out. Better to play safe than getting killed (and the family members too)

[SkinnyPupp]

It might just be partially in the nature of the culture; I've seen it happen a million times. T10 typhoon incoming? Better hope you have rice at home, because shelves will be empty. Fukushima blows up? Somehow people thought eating lots of non-iodized salt would help, so no salt on shelves for a week. Even when the protests started, people panicked and started stocking up. I guess they thought there was a chance China would come in with tanks and lock everyone in their homes.

Actually I can't really remember what it was like during SARS though. To my recollection it wasn't that bad. A lot of people wore masks, but NOTHING like today. So maybe the panic thing is a more recent thing, as people learn that their government is absolutely useless. All they do is protect the CCP and the Police.

I didn't ever wear a mask during SARS, and I hung out at Amoy all the time (bad idea in retrospect). One day I was there, and all the stores were closed and dudes in full body suits were wandering around... I guess that was the day they discovered the cause :heckno:

[whitev70r]

Don't tell C lais here but there's going to be a run on TP here locally ... not because of Coronavirus but because of the damn protests blocking rail transport.

[asian_XL]

During 2003, people did not have smart phones, there was no high speed mobile internet, people sent MMS but cost a lot, people read newspaper or news website, FB or youtube or online buying platform was not existed. Revscene still talked about how to turbo a civic or impreza or hyde's porsche GT :smug:

Just cross the fingers and continue to stay home for another months or so.

[SumAznGuy]

Don't tell C lais here but there's going to be a run on TP here locally ... not because of Coronavirus but because of the damn protests blocking rail transport.

It's true. We are hearing the ports are starting to get backed up with containers because they can't load them on the trains due to the protests blocking the tracks.

[yoursyumiko]

Good on ya. I just went out for a non perishable supply run here (Tokyo). I usually only have a day or two worth of food since everything is so convenient. I feel that shit is going to hit the fan in Japan soon. I think we're one of the few Asian countries that didn't quarantine anyone, and didn't cut flights to China...Message from the health minister is now "avoid all non-essential gatherings" and "avoid any crowded trains". So basically, 99% of working adults, and anyone that rides the train is... yea...:heckno:
How's the general atmosphere in Tokyo? Have a trip booked on March 1. Thinking of just to cancel the trip for f sake. (flights are still non refundable)

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't know about other orgs in Japan, but Stardom wrestling has canceled ALL their events to the public for about the next month. All their shows will be recorded with no audience.

By March 1 it's possible a lot more stuff is going to be closed. People in Japan are furious at their government for not taking this seriously enough, so they may take action with border control as well as closing public run events, while corporations do the same.

Keep an eye on it, you might want to cancel the trip even eating the flight cost, or maybe go somewhere more rural instead of Tokyo and do other activities...

[Tim Budong]

goin to Tokyo in April.. so i hope it's fine...

[CorneringArtist]

How's the general atmosphere in Tokyo? Have a trip booked on March 1. Thinking of just to cancel the trip for f sake. (flights are still non refundable)

I'm leaving on the 1st as well. It's not going to stop me, all things considered.

However, they did just reduce the Tokyo Marathon to just top tier runners.

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkpTJXn9_gg

That's one angry Chinese woman

[SkinnyPupp]

^^^ RIP that lady

There are people who would say that her Qi is out of whack, possibly due to meddling with Falun Gong meditation practices... This is exactly how they describe it.