[white rocket]

To an extent, yes, but like Westopher said, profiling due to behaviour isn't the same as profiling for something they literally can't control.

But yes, as with everything in life, people will fall on a spectrum and not just on one side or the other, I'm fully aware. Like for example we had a young (mid 20's guy) at work refusing to get vaccinated, but he wore a mask and did whatever else was asked and I can respect that. (he ended up getting the shot when he realized he would have to drive back to Ontario for Christmas if he didn't, lol)

People I can't stand is the crusty old guy that lives in my building who got into a fight with someone when they asked why he wasn't wearing his mask in the elevator. Since then he made it a point to go onto elevators at capacity and yelling at people to get off if they're so afraid of him and the chinavirus. You don't need to be a genius to figure out where his stance on vaccines are.

I appreciate you sharing your experiences. Indeed there are different levels to people making the choice to not vaccinate and it's not all for the same reason. There is crossover for sure but not everyone wants to burn it all like that crusty old guy and not everyone is out to make public scenes or make others feel unsafe.

Realistically this whole thing can never "end" unless every single human is vaccinated. If even one person is left out and the world declares this pandemic "over" or whatever the demic it turns into then the rest of the population will wonder why that person isn't dead and the whole "do your part" narrative is torched. Doubling down now is the only play but it builds up the hate for those who don't deserve it and creates the unnecessary divide. All for safety?

[inv4zn]

I was wAndering about Wuhan. What the situation is like these days at ground zero. Searched a bit. Came across the usual stuff, but saw this. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/covid-19-origin-first-shots-excerpt-1267694/

Dr. Michael Callahan. Damn...............
https://advancingcures.org/vic-management-michael-callahan/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/opinion/covid-vaccine-strategies.html

By Michael V. Callahan and Mark C. Poznansky
Dr. Callahan and Dr. Poznansky are infectious disease experts at Massachusetts General Hospital. They previously worked on a Darpa program designed to predict and protect against pandemics.
Soon after the novel coronavirus emerged, its genome was sequenced and vaccines were developed at, yes, warp speed. These are all herculean tasks that deserve praise. But America’s achievement stops there. The initial vaccine strategy was reactive and tactical, not decisive and strategic. While it prioritized getting safe, effective vaccines into bodies as quickly as possible, it did not consider how to prevent variants or subsequent waves of the virus.

All coronaviruses produce variants, and as with prior coronavirus outbreaks, variants of SARS-CoV-2 emerged as the virus spread from Wuhan, China, across the planet. The next danger is the further evolution of variants that can overcome the immunity provided by existing Covid-19 vaccines and prior infections.

The second generation of Covid-19 vaccines, which are now in development as booster shots, is aimed at known variants, but they are not designed with future variants in mind. This is “whack-a-mole” vaccine development, an inefficient and costly approach that chases yesterday’s virus. What we need is “kill shot” immunity, which would protect people against all current and future variants and bring an end to the pandemic.

It is possible to make a vaccine like this — if scientists closely study the patterns of how viruses mutate, and design vaccines for the viruses that we’re about to face, not just the ones we have now. This approach is especially important considering the number of ways viruses can emerge in humans, including from natural spillover (when a virus spreads from one species to another) or an accident in a virus research laboratory (“lab leak”) — both scenarios that are, appropriately, the subject of serious investigation.

They are working on a 'one-all' vaccine, an example is in Japan:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/12/29/national/science-health/one-shot-lifetime-covid-vaccine/

Also, we had an interesting debate on China's situation over the weekend. My cousin's wife's uncle lives in China, and they are essentially "back to normal", at least where he lives. Little restrictions, day to day, etc. At first I was impressed, then skeptical, and I found this article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10392071/Reality-Zero-Covid-China-quarantine-camps-confine-residents-cells-videos-show.html

Essentially if you have covid you and everyone around you is sent to what can only described as a concentration camp. Anyone using China as some stellar example of covid response is either brainwashed, narrow-minded, and/or an idiot.

[inv4zn]

I appreciate you sharing your experiences. Indeed there are different levels to people making the choice to not vaccinate and it's not all for the same reason. There is crossover for sure but not everyone wants to burn it all like that crusty old guy and not everyone is out to make public scenes or make others feel unsafe.

Realistically this whole thing can never "end" unless every single human is vaccinated. If even one person is left out and the world declares this pandemic "over" or whatever the demic it turns into then the rest of the population will wonder why that person isn't dead and the whole "do your part" narrative is torched. Doubling down now is the only play but it builds up the hate for those who don't deserve it and creates the unnecessary divide. All for safety?

I understand what you're saying, but there are counter-arguments using your same logic. The "hate" is largely manufactured by the hardcore antivaxxers playing victim to something they either made up or put themselves into. Most vaccinated people don't actually "hate" anyone, but the loudest (and stupidest) minority are making it really easy to ostracize them because they spew bullshit.

It's not 'hate' to decide not to let unvaccinated people into public spaces, nor is it some nefarious scheme to a class system. It's literally consequences to actions, and the only real victims of this is people who legitimately can't get the shot, not just because Jesus doesn't want them to.

In the end, we're all human beings, and there's no real "right answer". But there's definitely a wrong one, and it's the idiots who subscribe to that ideology that frankly deserve all the flack they get.

[Traum]

Maybe just me that thinks this way when I read the news about post-secondary students all petitioning about in class rooming learning. Just withdraw from the course, get your fully course money back. Then take the course later on when Covid is settled down from the variants. Keep reading about people bitching as though someone is pointing a gun to their head they must absolutely go to school. Covid has impacted everyone lives, what's a semester or two pushed back going to affect your education from?

For students that are on student loan, withdrawing from the course is quite often not an option because it will affect that loan status.

[punkwax]

If you have Pfizer twice, should you get a different vaccine for the booster?

In the booster lineup now. First 2 doses we’re Pfizer but they’re recommending Moderna for 30+.. Moderna it is.

[CivicBlues]

Anyone else sick of fucking anti-vaxxers/maskers/covid deniers keep using that "Love over Fear" meme to seem above it all and holier than though, when in reality the only thing they love over all else is themselves.

[Hondaracer]

Anyone else sick of fucking anti-vaxxers/maskers/covid deniers keep using that "Love over Fear" meme to seem above it all and holier than though, when in reality the only thing they love over all else is themselves.

It’s working on ya! Lol

[CivicBlues]

Ooh and another one. I'm not "anti-vaxx" I'm just "pro-choice"

..."except when it comes to a woman's right to choose...then I'm pro-life"

[westopher]

“Hugs over masks” but you can find me spitting on a healthcare worker outside VGH

[inv4zn]

Some anti-vaxxer was making fun of people wearing their masks in their car alone, and I'm like uh, aren't you about "my body my choice"? Didn't even being up abortions (which I know they're against). SMH.

[twitchyzero]

it is weird to mask alone in the car, unless your heater doesn't work :alone:

[Manic!]

I wear a mask in my car sometimes because I'm lazy and my next stop is only a few minutes away.

[68style]

Haha yah I was driving a short distance once last year and wasn't thinking about it and kept my mask on, was getting out of my car and some yankeedoodle in a truck yelled something at me.

Funny how it's such a trigger to some people. Not sure how what anyone is choosing to wear has anything to do with anyone else, it's literally not hurting anyone else to wear one even if it was like 5 years ago.

[ilovebacon]

Wearing a mask inside the car is nothing. I had to wear a mask inside the house because of covid..

[Spectre_Cdn]

I wear a mask in my car sometimes because I'm lazy and my next stop is only a few minutes away.

^same.

Last week, I could smell vape smoke(?) in my car from another car in front of me. Made me regret not wearing a mask at the moment, considering how transmissible omicron is. :suspicious:

But at the same time, the smoke has tumbled around outside and through a cabin filter... so that may have been an overreaction.

[SumAznGuy]

Ooh and another one. I'm not "anti-vaxx" I'm just "pro-choice"

..."except when it comes to a woman's right to choose...then I'm pro-life"

I was talking to a friend.
He is against the vaccine because it is too new and was rushed.
Doesn't know the long term effects.

But forces his GF's to take the morning after pill because he doesn't like sex without a condom.
And now he's convinced her to use IUD's. FailFish

[SumAznGuy]

^same.

Last week, I could smell vape smoke(?) in my car from another car in front of me. Made me regret not wearing a mask at the moment, considering how transmissible omicron is. :suspicious:

But at the same time, the smoke has tumbled around outside and through a cabin filter... so that may have been an overreaction.

Could be worse.
Wife and I were walking outdoors and a guy walked past us with a mask on and we could still smell his garlic breath. :Puke:

[inv4zn]

Could be worse.
Wife and I were walking outdoors and a guy walked past us with a mask on and we could still smell his garlic breath. :Puke:

Might not have been his breath...hehe

[CivicBlues]

I was talking to a friend.
He is against the vaccine because it is too new and was rushed.
Doesn't know the long term effects.

But forces his GF's to take the morning after pill because he doesn't like sex without a condom.
And now he's convinced her to use IUD's. FailFish

What the fuck? that shit isn't meant to be taken regularly. Why doesn't she go on the BC pill?

[Presto]

Fuck that guy. I hope his GF dumps that selfish douche.

[Teriyaki]

Classic "My body my choice, Your body also my choice"

[westopher]

I don’t think I’d be friends with that guy.

[Hondaracer]

Lol at first I read birth control and was gonna say..it’s pretty tried and tested over 50+ Years

But taking morning after every time there’s a cream pie? That is some hood rat shit lol

[SkinnyPupp]

I was talking to a friend.
He is against the vaccine because it is too new and was rushed.
Doesn't know the long term effects.

But forces his GF's to take the morning after pill because he doesn't like sex without a condom.
And now he's convinced her to use IUD's. FailFish
Being friends with someone like that kind of calls your character into question... :considered:

Edit: In case this looks serious, it's not

[MarkyMark]

SumAznGuy is now cancelled for having a shitty friend, cya bud.

[westopher]

Lol at first I read birth control and was gonna say..it’s pretty tried and tested over 50+ Years

But taking morning after every time there’s a cream pie? That is some hood rat shit lol
Pull out methods been around before that. Be a man and control that nut if you wanna go that route.

[donk.]

Where's Skidz at

[quasi]

Pull out methods been around before that. Be a man and control that nut if you wanna go that route.

Been practicing the pull out method for 16 years, older she gets the more reliable it is. Lol

[GLOW]

after reading the drake thing in no need to start a new thread thread...

gf could put an inner lining and fill it with hot sauce :devil::ilied:

[Traum]

I was talking to a friend.
He is against the vaccine because it is too new and was rushed.
Doesn't know the long term effects.

But forces his GF's to take the morning after pill because he doesn't like sex without a condom.
And now he's convinced her to use IUD's. FailFish
Please do not tell me this is someone I know as well...?
:badpokerface:

[CivicBlues]

...also you guys discuss birth control methods with your buds?

[whitev70r]

haha ... Quebec proposed tax on unvaxxed and 7000 people signed up for the vaccine. It may not even go through ... great strategy.

Having said that, I think Quebec premier has ballz. I see all the cray cray protest in France, I thought Francophones are pretty high on independence, personal freedom, etc.

[Hondaracer]

Yea..actual French people are. Not French Canadians

[JDMDreams]

Pics of the chick :worthless: she could just do it in the stink instead of the pink and it's free ??? Profit :ifyouknow::troll:

[underscore]

after reading the drake thing in no need to start a new thread thread...

gf could put an inner lining and fill it with hot sauce :devil::ilied:

There's always those barbed inserts they invented in Africa.

[JSALES]

I ended up waiting in line today for 40 minutes at the YVR drive through covid test site and took home a rapid test. My symptoms were body aches and a slight sore throat. My test results came out positive, I was sort of shocked thinking maybe it’s a false positive but probably unlikely. I guess I was bound to get it sooner or later.

[whitev70r]

^ oh wow ... get some rest and hope you come through in a few days. Yah, if you are positive on a rapid test, that's a pretty sure positive as it is less sensitive to PCR test.

[Hondaracer]

At work today talked to a bunch of colleagues as we don’t typically see each other much and 3 of the 4 I talked to tested positive over Xmas break plus myself.

[westopher]

Another freedom fighter choosing hugs over masks
Vancouver Coastal Health says people who don’t want to get vaccinated themselves have been paying vulnerable people who live in the Downtown Eastside to get COVID-19 shots using the fraudsters’ name and health number.

A health-care worker in the neighbourhood says she recently encountered a patient who had been paid $200 to get two shots using another person’s name and personal health number. She said the patient is extremely vulnerable and has mental health and addiction issues, and was not able to make a fully informed decision when presented with a chance to make extra money.

“I’m angry at people taking advantage, but also that this is what [this patient] has to do to make money because they live in abject poverty,” the health-care worker said.

The worker spoke to The Tyee anonymously because she could face reprisals from her employer for speaking to the media.

The worker said she gave the patient a third dose of the vaccine, a “booster” shot now being given to B.C. residents across the province, in an attempt to counter the highly infectious Omicron variant of COVID-19.

But because the patient had gotten the two previous shots under another person’s name, the patient will not be able to get proof they are fully vaccinated.

Since Oct. 24, B.C. residents have needed a vaccine passport showing they’ve received at least two doses to go to eat in restaurants or cafés, and to enter indoor spaces like bars, movie theatres and sports venues. Some employers also require their employees to have a vaccine passport.

In the Downtown Eastside, Vancouver Coastal Health has been running pop-up vaccination clinics on street corners, overdose prevention sites and venues like the Carnegie Community Centre to try to get residents vaccinated. Many people who live in the neighbourhood have pre-existing health conditions and are more likely to end up in hospital if they contract COVID-19.

The Vancouver Coastal Health authority told The Tyee that staff are aware of people trying to get vaccine passports fraudulently by paying vulnerable people in the neighbourhood to be vaccinated.

The health authority said it’s now put in place “measures to thwart these attempts” and will be ensuring that anyone seeking a COVID-19 vaccine in the Downtown Eastside is eligible to get one and has their identity confirmed.

VCH did not respond to questions about how many times this type of vaccine fraud has happened.

While many Downtown Eastside residents have their identification repeatedly stolen, the health-care worker said it’s possible to confirm patients’ identity by asking them for their full name and birthday and checking that information with health records.

She added that it’s disturbing to realize that unvaccinated people may be able to enter restaurants and other venues where vaccine passports are required using the fraudulent documents.

There have been reports of similar fraud in Edmonton, again using vulnerable people to get shots under other people’s names. An emergency room nurse told Global News that they had encountered at least six patients who said they’d been paid to get vaccinated, including one who said they’d gotten seven shots in one day.

One patient had told the nurse that the end customer for the vaccine proof pays $2,000 to a third party, but the people who agree to get the shot are paid $100, according to the Global News story.

Alberta Health Services told Global News that COVID-19 vaccines are safe and adverse reactions are rare, but it’s not advised to have more doses than recommended. Getting doses too close together could increase the risk of having an adverse reaction, AHS said.

Edmonton police are now investigating the reports of vaccine fraud, and Vancouver Coastal Health says it will report any future incidents of fraud to police.

The Downtown Eastside health worker who spoke to The Tyee said the patient she spoke with was afraid of getting in trouble and was reluctant to give her information because of that fear.

She emphasized that it’s the fraudsters, not the vulnerable people being enticed to get vaccinated for money, who should face the consequences of their actions

[inv4zn]

^wow, that's actually really, really fucked up.

[StylinRed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrOzY86YcEM

From reddit

Here is some context to the Calvinism bit that apparently no one in the comments is getting:

This guy is a prof at Ferris State, which is in West Michigan. There is a large amount of religious conservatives coming from Calvinist traditions in West Michigan, many of whom are anti-vaxx or anti-mask. There is a somewhat common argument amongst religious conservatives here of "I won't get covid because it's God's will that his followers will be protected". In saying that his students are predestined to pass or fail his class, he's pointing out this argument is bullshit because divine will or not your actions do have consequences that influence the world around you, i.e. wear a mask, get your shots, social distance, study, etc.

Essentially he's half joking half making a point to his students, many of whom I presume have never left The Bubble. For those who did not grow up in the area where this guy is teaching, let me assure you that in context what he is saying is fucking hilarious and at least some of the students in his class probably could stand to benefit from critical analysis of their world view.
This prof loses it over the idea of the semester returning to in person classes over remote learning, this is his intro to the class, and the soft kids were shocked, but tbh it's quite nicely done imo :lol

Original clip was made private, but this is an alt link

https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/in-obscene-video-ferris-state-professor-tells-students-final-grades-assigned-randomly

Admin leave supposedly

[white rocket]

While of course it's shitty to use another human being as a pin cushion because you don't want the poke but still want to live in this society; isn't it ironic that the police may be called to intervene but since the VPD isn't required to be vaccinated wouldn't one of them entering into a restaurant to oust a fraudster be looked at as "disturbing" like the article says? Not poking fun at the context of the article but more seeing if there is a double standard there at all in terms of legal enforcement.

[Hondaracer]

Well that cop would have to wear a mask the entire time and wouldn’t be able to dine in said establishment so it’s not really the same.

[Peturbo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10395843/Family-claim-evicted-Ronald-McDonald-House-not-vaccinated.html
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ronald-mcdonald-house-covid-vaccine-mandate
Family from kelowna starting a boycott against a charity home? How ungrateful can you be trying to put other families and sick kids at risk.

[TOS'd]

^ $150K+ raised so far on their gofundme

[westopher]

Fighting for our rights to put immunocompromised children in danger. This man is our generations Rosa Parks.

[Hondaracer]

The guy looks like the type of knob who’d argue with a barista over the temperature of a coffee

[GIZZ]

Get the shot, live there for free, don't and be homeless. It looks like he's a career shit disturber, it's all calculated for social media and is finally paying off for him. $150K will buy a nice Dodge Caravan they can live in.

I made the mistake of posting on the FB link, I couldn't stand the notifications so I deleted my post.

[CivicBlues]

^ $150K+ raised so far on their gofundme

I thought Go Fund Me cancelled anti-vaxxers fundraisers? Can they be reported?

[hotjoint]

In the booster lineup now. First 2 doses we’re Pfizer but they’re recommending Moderna for 30+.. Moderna it is.

Got my booster booked for the 29th. Same situation so will be moderna as well

[TOS'd]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Basically YMMV.
If you got Omicron post-vaccination, medical experts advise not to rush out for a booster shot

If you're now one of a growing number of people who've been infected post-vaccination, you might be wondering when it's appropriate to get a booster — or if you need one at all.

"People should still get a booster," Dr. Lynora Saxinger, an infectious diseases specialist and associate professor at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, told CBC News. "I think the harder part is, when is the best time to boost?"

Provincial guidance on that timing varies across the country, ranging from Quebec's suggestion to simply wait until your symptoms go away to a recommendation from Ontario's top doctor to hold off for 30 days.

There's no magic number, but the science behind how our immune system works means you might want to wait weeks or even months after an Omicron infection to reap the benefits of a booster shot.

Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/omicron-covid-vaccinated-booster-1.6312471

[ImportPsycho]

PSA
Korea updated incoming passenger PCR test requirement to within 48H, starting 1/20
my parents had to reschedule their test

[JDMDreams]

Locking things down

COVID-19: N.B. imposing 16-day lockdown, top doctor says ‘matter of life and death’

https://globalnews.ca/news/8508242/nb-covid-19-jan-13-2022-2/

[BlackV62K2]

So they are recommending that we get a different vaccine from our first two for the booster? Hesitant to do mixed doses more in the sense of what other countries view as fully vaccinated' including boosters for travel in the future. Much like how the AZ people took one for the team early when we first started vaccination.

[CivicBlues]

Hey those of you guys who got their booster, have you checked if the Federal vaccine card has been updated? I got mine on Sunday and it's still not updated for me. The BC Vaccine Card has though.

[SumAznGuy]

Please do not tell me this is someone I know as well...?
:badpokerface:

Let's say no. SeemsGood

[GIZZ]

Hey those of you guys who got their booster, have you checked if the Federal vaccine card has been updated? I got mine on Sunday and it's still not updated for me. The BC Vaccine Card has though.

I got my booster in Dec. Mine updated to include it but I didn't look until over a week later.

[punkwax]

Got my booster yesterday and it’s already showing under my federal profile.

[hud 91gt]

Got mine this morning and it’s already showing…

[nabs]

I'm playing grocery delivery to family members.

Luckily the wife and I haven't seen anyone the past few weeks, everyone ended up getting Covid this week. We dodged a bullet.

[CivicBlues]

Damn same with my wife her Federal Vaccine card changed the day after she got hers.

Who do I even contact to look into this?

[Hondaracer]

No one, you gotta go get a 4th shot now

[CivicBlues]

dang I feel gyped :alone:

[Teriyaki]

Started getting chills and sore throat 2 days ago. Escalated and could barely sleep yesterday with how bad the sore throat was getting. Went to nab a test at YVR, they're only passing out quick tests now. Positive.

I've not seen anyone at all since new years, really only been grocery shopping and I wear KN95 everywhere. Insane.

[mikemhg]

Oh COVID you strange virus.

We were supposed to fly back from Puerto Vallarta (been down here for 3 weeks) on Wednesday. We both took our PCR tests on Monday, checked our results from the condo on Wednesday morning before the flight.

I test negative, my girlfriend tests positive. Our flight literally hours away from departing. I ended up deciding to miss my flight and stay down here with her.

She's completely asymptomatic. Very odd she tested positive, and me negative.

Ah well. Another 10 days in paradise :)

[hud 91gt]

I may have been taking you home. You missed out, but your GF probably appreciates it. Lol.

[donk.]

Oh COVID you strange virus.

We were supposed to fly back from Puerto Vallarta (been down here for 3 weeks) on Wednesday. We both took our PCR tests on Monday, checked our results from the condo on Wednesday morning before the flight.

I test negative, my girlfriend tests positive. Our flight literally hours away from departing. I ended up deciding to miss my flight and stay down here with her.

She's completely asymptomatic. Very odd she tested positive, and me negative.

Ah well. Another 10 days in paradise :)

What's the deal down there for her? Like quarantine wise?
Guessing she needs a new negative test xx hours before the next flight now?

Me and two buddies going down in 2 weeks, to Sayulita 1hr north

[quasi]

Oh COVID you strange virus.

We were supposed to fly back from Puerto Vallarta (been down here for 3 weeks) on Wednesday. We both took our PCR tests on Monday, checked our results from the condo on Wednesday morning before the flight.

I test negative, my girlfriend tests positive. Our flight literally hours away from departing. I ended up deciding to miss my flight and stay down here with her.

She's completely asymptomatic. Very odd she tested positive, and me negative.

Ah well. Another 10 days in paradise :)

This made me laugh, imagine if you're like well that sucks but the planes leaving in a few hours so I'll see you on the flip side, let me know how it goes.

[CivicBlues]

Oh COVID you strange virus.

We were supposed to fly back from Puerto Vallarta (been down here for 3 weeks) on Wednesday. We both took our PCR tests on Monday, checked our results from the condo on Wednesday morning before the flight.

I test negative, my girlfriend tests positive. Our flight literally hours away from departing. I ended up deciding to miss my flight and stay down here with her.

She's completely asymptomatic. Very odd she tested positive, and me negative.

Ah well. Another 10 days in paradise :)

Are you allowed to stay together though? I read places that won't let you stay with a SO if one of you tests negative. It's insane. They should just test us all on arrival instead of this BS making you sit in a hotel for another 10 days.

[donk.]

What if: Mexico govt be like

Send back the results positive on 25% of travellers regardless of outcome, let's get that extra 10 days of income and boost GDP

:suspicious::considered::derp:

[CivicBlues]

Damn same with my wife her Federal Vaccine card changed the day after she got hers.

Who do I even contact to look into this?

Emailed HealthGateway@gov.bc.ca and they cleared it up for me within the hour.

And they say Government is inefficient :smug:

[BIC_BAWS]

One of our contractors mentioned in conversation today that she got fired from her restaurant job because "management doesn't appreciate critical thinking and I refuse to be sheep". Word for word quote.

She's unvaccinated lol.

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

[StylinRed]

Oh COVID you strange virus.

We were supposed to fly back from Puerto Vallarta (been down here for 3 weeks) on Wednesday. We both took our PCR tests on Monday, checked our results from the condo on Wednesday morning before the flight.

I test negative, my girlfriend tests positive. Our flight literally hours away from departing. I ended up deciding to miss my flight and stay down here with her.

She's completely asymptomatic. Very odd she tested positive, and me negative.

Ah well. Another 10 days in paradise :)

Be sure not to overstay your visa, I hear they're actually very anal about that now unlike before, and tourists have been deported, when getting checked by military patrol units

Supposedly its a new thing which has caught a lot of tourists off guard, your PP getting stamped with the date you claimed youd be leaving and the police enforces it (that's what I'm hearing anyway from ppl who have gone down there)

[underscore]

Are you allowed to stay together though? I read places that won't let you stay with a SO if one of you tests negative. It's insane. They should just test us all on arrival instead of this BS making you sit in a hotel for another 10 days.

I'm curious how it works if she tests negative and he tests positive before the next flight.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm curious how it works if she tests negative and he tests positive before the next flight.
Another 10 days! :alonehappy:

[underscore]

"Travel agents hate this one easy trick to stay in Mexico indefinitely for free!"

[The Producer]

Welp we fly out to Puerto Vallarta for 3 weeks on Christmas Day.

Better bring my work laptop as I might be down there longer with all this Omicron crap :lol

Ah well.


Oh COVID you strange virus.

We were supposed to fly back from Puerto Vallarta (been down here for 3 weeks) on Wednesday. We both took our PCR tests on Monday, checked our results from the condo on Wednesday morning before the flight.

I test negative, my girlfriend tests positive. Our flight literally hours away from departing. I ended up deciding to miss my flight and stay down here with her.

She's completely asymptomatic. Very odd she tested positive, and me negative.

Ah well. Another 10 days in paradise :)

:badpokerface:

this is why I can't leave the country - until we're past the stage of denying a timely return home it's just not feasible.

no way i could spend an extra 10 days away from a planned return date.

[Mr.Money]

what's travel insurance costs in pandemic times?.. stupid high?... any coverage of you do add on an extra 10 days...HAH.... i'm dreaming

[6793026]

I'll see what Beijing will do this coming 3 weeks. I don't hate on countries, but omicorn is spreading so fast, we'll see if they shut down olympics. Because of their policy, it will become hard to shut down BJ if anyone is detected with omicron.

[StylinRed]

I'll see what Beijing will do this coming 3 weeks. I don't hate on countries, but omicorn is spreading so fast, we'll see if they shut down olympics. Because of their policy, it will become hard to shut down BJ if anyone is detected with omicron.

They'll likely just sweep any cases under the rug

[SkinnyPupp]

Omicron is showing up here and there in China and they definitely do not sweep it under the rug.. They try to stamp that shit out as soon as it shows up, to the point where you could end up in lockdown or a quarantine camp without warning just for knowing someone who got it.

The problem is their vaccination rate is very low with older people, and even the ones that do have it are using sinovac and sinopharm which are practically the same as not being vaccinated

[quasi]

:badpokerface:

this is why I can't leave the country - until we're past the stage of denying a timely return home it's just not feasible.

no way i could spend an extra 10 days away from a planned return date.

Same boat, would love to go on vacation but can't risk getting stuck somewhere and neither can my wife. Two years without a vacation, I think we might have to go back east this summer or something stay in Canada but enjoy getting away.

[Hondaracer]

Well once you’ve had omicron, there is likely a far less chance of testing positive down the road when you’re away. Or at least that’s how I see it lol.. I’ll let my employer deal with it when I call them from Mexico

[CRS]

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271654781_327772479394758_108866404813866116_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=1&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=i8SIe5KtNKYAX-8ctCY&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT8nvwihvp_oG4MkSQvCJaLlmtxlkdgHCsawVjFrMYwK zw&oe=61E5ADDC

[68style]

I have zero doubt we're all getting it or have gotten it now... I was away this weekend at ice racing with 320icar and others, out of touch with people a bit, but now that I've come back well over half the people I can even say I know locally have it currently.

My dad even got it and he's in pretty rough shape despite being triple vaxxed... he is high blood pressure, overweight and a quadruple bypass survivor though so extremely high risk... I'm positive if he wasn't vaccinated he'd be dead in 2 weeks. Even as it is he's done from walking up the stairs.

All my coworkers are currently off sick with it... one of them lives above a daycare where 7/10 kids got infected and just sharing the same heating system in the same house she got it.

For all I know I already got it too, just didn't really notice... have had some mild headaches here or there, etc.

[MarkyMark]

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271654781_327772479394758_108866404813866116_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=1&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=i8SIe5KtNKYAX-8ctCY&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=00_AT8nvwihvp_oG4MkSQvCJaLlmtxlkdgHCsawVjFrMYwK zw&oe=61E5ADDC

At my work they are telling anyone who was even near someone who tested positive to just stay home. No test required, no symptoms needed, just stay home. Have a headache this morning? Stay home and assume it's the virus. More people here are sitting on their ass as a precaution than people who actually have it. Under those conditions it doesn't take much to have a shortage of workers.

[GIZZ]

what's travel insurance costs in pandemic times?.. stupid high?... any coverage of you do add on an extra 10 days...HAH.... i'm dreaming

Not sure, but I heard yesterday some they void coverage if you travel when there is an advisory against it.

Unrelated, my buddy got off a cruise this week in LA. Tested positive at LAX. Couldn't board the plane so he rented a car and drove home. The border provided a rapid test and he was able to get home and isolate. Gong Show, my wife would kill me if we had to go through all that.

[white rocket]

For all I know I already got it too, just didn't really notice... have had some mild headaches here or there, etc.

Same here. I swear I have either a scratchy throat or a tickle in the sinus area almost everyday, like the very first time you notice you are about to get a cold/flu, and then it just goes away and doesn't materialize into anything as the day progresses. Super annoying.

I can certainly echo the travel worries here. With kids and a business to run both myself or my wife can't risk being caught somewhere and having to quarantine. We were supposed to go to Cali during Christmas and cancelled due to the above. Now looking back and seeing how crazy things have gotten I think we made the wise choice. Besides weekend trips here and there and maybe a 4/5 day'er in Palm Springs, I haven't had a long vacation since Thailand in 2011 FeelsBadMan

[StylinRed]

Omicron is showing up here and there in China and they definitely do not sweep it under the rug.. They try to stamp that shit out as soon as it shows up, to the point where you could end up in lockdown or a quarantine camp without warning just for knowing someone who got it.

The problem is their vaccination rate is very low with older people, and even the ones that do have it are using sinovac and sinopharm which are practically the same as not being vaccinated

Naw I meant when the Olympics r going to happen and there's an outbreak in Beijing? They're going to want the show to go on, they're going to sweep any outbreaks in Beijing under the rug until after the games

[Traum]

Honestly if I were Emperor Xi, I would postpone the Winter Olympics until next year just like what Japan did with the summer games. China's draconian measure to shut down whole communities (and cities now) have proven to be sufficiently effective in keeping a lid on Delta, but with Omicron being so much more contagious, the same super harsh measure is not going to work. Already they are seeing massive logistical nightmares with everyday basic necessities like people not having access to food.

At least some portion of the Olympic athletes are going to bring Omicron into the country, just like how they brought Delta into Japan last summer. I don't agree at all with China's COVID zero policy, but if they still hope to achieve that, now is not the time to bring in thousands of foreigners from all over the world when you know Omicron is surging globally.

[Hondaracer]

Again, travel for the wealthy. While the peasants grinding away twiddle their thumbs locked away at home.

So I just went to a public pool in Burnaby, the absurdity of closing gyms is very apparent there. They should send a news crew there see what people think. So closing performance gyms, high intensity training centres, boxing facilities etc. that are almost exclusively younger, healthy people. Yet..at the public pool it’s nothing but fucking 70+ year olds face to face in close quarters chatting, no one in the r locker room wearing masks the “old boys” gathering in 6/7/10 person groups face to face.

Let alone the disgusting old fuck who actually spat in the fucking sauna who I called out and he just grumbled and turned away. I guarantee you all the “no spitting” signs are for this demographic I was in there with.

Before the current restrictions I was going to the YMCA downtown that operated more like a gym, masks everywhere etc. at this public pool no one wears masks anywhere. It’s so fucked. When I am the “safest” person of like 60+ People in a public space, kinda feels like somethings wrong lol

[whitev70r]

For all I know I already got it too, just didn't really notice... have had some mild headaches here or there, etc.

Same here. I swear I have either a scratchy throat or a tickle in the sinus area almost everyday, like the very first time you notice you are about to get a cold/flu, and then it just goes away and doesn't materialize into anything as the day progresses. Super annoying.


That's my thinking and my experience as well. Here and there, I'd get a mild headache, a cough, scratchy throat and nothing materializes. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones who is asymptomatic.

[JDMDreams]

Yea I'm getting occasional scratchy dry throat and dry cough. But not full blown sore throat. Not sure if Coronas or not.

But what I'm more worried about is sick ppl working, I have a co worker that showed up at work with symptoms, cough, sore throat and no smell. But management told him to hush hush cuz there's no staff :fulloffuck::facepalm: and he's awaiting test results.

And another Chinese restaurant calling their chef to go back to work even though the whole family is home sick with symptoms.

Mild symptoms they said, reopen all the things they said.

[donk.]

Let alone the disgusting old fuck who actually spat in the fucking sauna




What if the guy was you :suspicious:
Profile pic n all

[6thGear.]

Again, travel for the wealthy. While the peasants grinding away twiddle their thumbs locked away at home.

So I just went to a public pool in Burnaby, the absurdity of closing gyms is very apparent there. They should send a news crew there see what people think. So closing performance gyms, high intensity training centres, boxing facilities etc. that are almost exclusively younger, healthy people. Yet..at the public pool it’s nothing but fucking 70+ year olds face to face in close quarters chatting, no one in the r locker room wearing masks the “old boys” gathering in 6/7/10 person groups face to face.

Let alone the disgusting old fuck who actually spat in the fucking sauna who I called out and he just grumbled and turned away. I guarantee you all the “no spitting” signs are for this demographic I was in there with.

Before the current restrictions I was going to the YMCA downtown that operated more like a gym, masks everywhere etc. at this public pool no one wears masks anywhere. It’s so fucked. When I am the “safest” person of like 60+ People in a public space, kinda feels like somethings wrong lol

Which pool is this? I'll be sure to avoid taking my son there

[inv4zn]

Again, travel for the wealthy. While the peasants grinding away twiddle their thumbs locked away at home.

So I just went to a public pool in Burnaby, the absurdity of closing gyms is very apparent there. They should send a news crew there see what people think. So closing performance gyms, high intensity training centres, boxing facilities etc. that are almost exclusively younger, healthy people. Yet..at the public pool it’s nothing but fucking 70+ year olds face to face in close quarters chatting, no one in the r locker room wearing masks the “old boys” gathering in 6/7/10 person groups face to face.

Let alone the disgusting old fuck who actually spat in the fucking sauna who I called out and he just grumbled and turned away. I guarantee you all the “no spitting” signs are for this demographic I was in there with.

Before the current restrictions I was going to the YMCA downtown that operated more like a gym, masks everywhere etc. at this public pool no one wears masks anywhere. It’s so fucked. When I am the “safest” person of like 60+ People in a public space, kinda feels like somethings wrong lol

Even without Covid that sounds disgusting. :heckno:

[inv4zn]

Some more doom & gloom news, both federal and provincial public health's are saying it's going to get worse before it gets better.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-modelling-very-intense-omicron-surge-1.6315123

New modelling released today by the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) suggests the highly transmissible Omicron variant will push hospital admissions to "extremely high levels" in the coming weeks as case counts reach levels never before seen in this country.

While there is a lot of uncertainty about how many new infections are being reported each day due to ongoing COVID-19 testing constraints, PHAC said the current test positivity rate suggests the variant is running rampant and there will be "several weeks of very intense activity expected to come."

Nationally, the positivity rate is a stunning 28 per cent. That means more than one in four tests for the virus are coming back positive — nearly five times higher than the rate at any other point in the pandemic.

While PHAC said Omicron is likely less severe than past variants — the risk of hospitalization is lower than with the Delta variant, for example — the sheer number of new infections means more people will be susceptible to severe outcomes, including hospitalization and death.

This is what I've been saying before, yes cases are milder, but there's just so much more. Like, a smaller percentage of a larger number is still a large number.

I know Hondaracer et al are all "well if nobody lives past 70 then we'd have no deaths or ICU", which is macabre but true, but then we'd also have no grandparents.............or MG1...

[RiceIntegraRS]

Got my Moderna booster Wednesday. Got AZ then Moderna for my first 2 shots. My arm is still pretty sore. No symptoms first day but next day i had the spins and the chills for 4hrs i had to leave work to go sleep it off. Woke up in a pile of sweat. So i was basically feeling like shit for 8hrs. Today i feel great though

[320icar]

Like 68style said, we were away this weekend for 5 days and it was wonderful. Wednesday I went back to work and over that long weekend we had something like 40+ cases? I tried to get more info from a manager and was given the “I honestly don’t know, it’s been a revolving door”. So I buckled down, kept clean and safe.

Well, woke up this morning with a good sore throat…

https://y.yarn.co/9384c2c5-9e85-4414-906a-b3be25ce13dc_text.gif

[van_driver]

I've been avoiding looking at covid news as it's too depressing.

Has there been any indication gyms may reopen even at capacity on Tuesday? Or will the closure just get extended?

[westopher]

I'm on day 6 now. Feeling pretty normal now after with nothing left but congestion. The whole thing really was waves of feeling shit and thinking it was ending like multiple times in a day. Day 2/3 were brutal for aches and chills.

[quasi]

Have another buddy and his family get it this week, his kid also my sons best friend at school so I'm surprised we haven't got it yet. He owns an Electrical Company, he had 17 employees sick this week as well.

I think I might be the last person I know who either hasn't had it or hasn't know he's had it.

[Hondaracer]

At this point I think you’re better off getting it than trying desperately to hold it off and then it happen when it’s more inconvenient.

[SkunkWorks]

I'm on day 6 now. Feeling pretty normal now after with nothing left but congestion. The whole thing really was waves of feeling shit and thinking it was ending like multiple times in a day. Day 2/3 were brutal for aches and chills.

Yup, I got it too. Know exactly from where as well - if you're sick, don't be a fucking asshole and go out to dinner and spread it to everyone else.

I was asymptomatic till I got my booster, thought the initial symptoms were a poor reaction to the booster but confirmed via rapid test today that it is indeed the vids. Had everything but never quite lost my sense of taste.

On the bright side, testing-free border crossings for 180 days once recovered... Just have to pay up for a PCR test now to confirm.

[Hondaracer]

You better go get a PCR pretty quick.. also you say don’t go to a restaurant knowing your positive but you’re gonna go into a private testing facility knowing your positive in order to get border crossing status?

[stylez2k4]

You better go get a PCR pretty quick.. also you say don’t go to a restaurant knowing your positive but you’re gonna go into a private testing facility knowing your positive in order to get border crossing status?

You got to be pretty stupid to not recognize the difference between going to eat in a restaurant versus doing to get a COVID test in terms of relative risk.

[Hondaracer]

You shouldn’t be going out interacting with people period knowing you’re positive.

[westopher]

Yeah I would have rather waited until post booster. After that though fuckin send it. I got an invitation for my shot the night I started showing symptoms. Wife had it about as bad as me. Baby was congested and really fussy one night so we assume it might have affected her but could just be grumpy newborn shit too. I asked her what was wrong and she didn’t even answer. Just made some weird googoo noises.

[westopher]

You shouldn’t be going out interacting with people period knowing you’re positive.

Lol he’s not gonna have it for 180 days so that leaves him like 173 free days to cross the border.

[SkunkWorks]

Lol he’s not gonna have it for 180 days so that leaves him like 173 free days to cross the border.

This.

I'm at home and will be until I'm asymptomatic/10 days.

Though I'd be happy to make an exception for our resident RS anti-mask/restrictions/vaxx crowd though because fake MSM fake virus.

[JSALES]

I’m on day 5 and I think have strep throat. All my other symptoms have gone but my throat is still sore. I had body aches and chill for the first couple days but it wasn’t too bad

[BlackV62K2]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/s4z1g3/vancouver_man_uses_the_n_word_when_asked_to_show

[StylinRed]

Local cases of Omicron in Beijing have appeared, where no recent travel has taken place for the affected

Surprised China reported that! Wonder what they'll do now

[GS8]

My neighbour 2 doors down from me (condo) has it.

My assistant at work has it.

This girl I'm seeing has it. She and a whole bunch of her family caught it who then unknowingly spread it to others. The culprit? A non-disinfected Honda CRV lent to them by an in-law. If you're going to borrow someone else's car, make sure it smells like a hospital when you enter.

It's only a matter of time before I get it. May as well just host a droplet party myself.

https://youtu.be/5dApp_3tm7o

[68style]

My dads got 3 shots and he got it… 7 days ago? I saw him from a distance yesterday and he’s been up and down… 1 day feeling better then 2 rough days… cycle repeats… he’s pretty unhappy and has a bad cough, does not advise purposely getting it. Seems like people don’t lose their sense of taste with the omicron one???

Weirdly enough my mom didn’t get it at all yet even though she’s 77. Or if she did she has been totally asymptomatic.

He left insurance papers I needed for his car I’m storing I slathered that envelope and my hands with spray picking it up haha… what a life hey.

Wonder how Mike is fairing down in Meh-hee-co.

[ImportPsycho]

Where did everyone get their 3rd shot? Now they have it at even a small pharmacy. Why are they everywhere but 1st and 2nd shots were only available at one or two places.
I can get it sooner but.. Walmart?

[CRS]

Where did everyone get their 3rd shot? Now they have it at even a small pharmacy. Why are have them everywhere but 1st and 2nd shots were only available at one or two places.
I can get it sooner but.. Walmart?

I got mine at a local pharmacy.

[320icar]

Oh man I’m getting fucked up

Felt fine yesterday (day 1) was even able to do work on my Subaru. Cough starting coming in the evening. Then overnight I just got wrecked. Super painful cough (someone on here said like strep, I agree). 103°f fever, chills, painful migraine, got up to pee and was so dizzy I ended up vomiting.

Going to try and get tested. Local one is booking for the 19th… that’s stupid. So I guess we’ll try the yvr drive thru centre

Edit, double vaxxed (pleb first then moderna) no loss of taste or smell that I can tell

[quasi]

Where did everyone get their 3rd shot? Now they have it at even a small pharmacy. Why are they everywhere but 1st and 2nd shots were only available at one or two places.
I can get it sooner but.. Walmart?

Booked in next week at a pharmacy, after taking my wife to drive through and it taking 90 minutes hard pass on that.

[SkunkWorks]

Lost my sense of taste and smell yesterday. Choked.

All other symptoms now (mostly) gone.

Our pup has been off all week too, no idea if covid could have affected her or she just sensed her dad was all fucked up.

[westopher]

Yeah my wife has lost her taste now (who's to say she ever had any, as she married me.)
I'm glad I haven't lost mine because I literally couldn't do my fuckin job. I need my tongue insured like Jlo insured her ass.

[Gumby]

Got my booster on Friday (Pfizer x2, then Moderna), and only had the sore arm. Saturday, I felt tired in the morning, then body aches by the evening. Sunday, I’m back to normal now and arm is almost fully recovered.

[JDMDreams]

I've heard symptoms come and go, you might lose your smell after a week, have cough one day be gone and back another. Mild they say, 5 day quarantine they say

[winson604]

My neighbour 2 doors down from me (condo) has it.

My assistant at work has it.

This girl I'm seeing has it. She and a whole bunch of her family caught it who then unknowingly spread it to others. The culprit? A non-disinfected Honda CRV lent to them by an in-law. If you're going to borrow someone else's car, make sure it smells like a hospital when you enter.

It's only a matter of time before I get it. May as well just host a droplet party myself.

https://youtu.be/5dApp_3tm7o

Just curious because I often hear people who caught it know for sure how it happened. With so many people being affected how do we know for sure it was the car? Surely, at least one of the people from the group has had some type of interaction with the public at some point, grocery, work etc and I don't even really care if they were masked because that isn't 100% either. Also how do we know one of the people who were in the car was patient 0?

Not being a dick about it. I'm just legit curious how they seem 100% sure that was the cause.

[Hondaracer]

Transmission from surfaces seems very very limited so kinda doubt it was the vehicle.

[320icar]

I did want to add another symptom; heartburn. I don’t even know how many tums I’ve had to eat the last two days. Very uncomfortable

[sdubfid]

Just curious because I often hear people who caught it know for sure how it happened. With so many people being affected how do we know for sure it was the car? Surely, at least one of the people from the group has had some type of interaction with the public at some point, grocery, work etc and I don't even really care if they were masked because that isn't 100% either. Also how do we know one of the people who were in the car was patient 0?

Not being a dick about it. I'm just legit curious how they seem 100% sure that was the cause.

Because the science. Revsceners are able to detect 0.1 micron with the naked eye.

[Traum]

Where did everyone get their 3rd shot? Now they have it at even a small pharmacy. Why are they everywhere but 1st and 2nd shots were only available at one or two places.
I can get it sooner but.. Walmart?
I am reasonably sure that Pfizer has modified the formulation of its vaccine to allow for some slightly less stringent cold storage requirement. That could potentially be one of the reasons why we see pharmacies being able to adminster the vaccine now.

I also seem to vaguely remember Moderna relaxing its cold storage requirements some time after it started distributing its vaccine as well.

A third but probably more important (potential) reason that a lot of pharmacies are helping with the vaccine now is -- there is a real shortage of medical staff available to administer those vaccines. Medical staff are burnt out from the stress, esp when there are fxxking idiots threatening them or protesting outside vaccination centers. After doctors and nurses, I suppose pharmacists are the next best candidates to help do this?

I lucked out and snatched my 3rd dose appointment on Friday at the Il Centro Italian Cultural Center. When I was there, easily at least 2/3 of the medical staff administering the vaccines were obviously on the older side -- wrinkles, silver hair and all. If I had to guess, those 2/3+ medical staff are probably in the 60+ range, with some looking like they were obviously in the 65+ range. The good granny doctor that gave me my vaccine totally looked like she was a smart and super alert grandmother. Huge kudos to them for stepping up to help with our vaccination efforts, but I think it points to how serious the shortage of staff we have in the medical field is because of COVID.

FWIW, about ~2 hours after getting jabbed (with Modern), my brain started turning into mush and stayed that way for a solid 4 - 5 hours. When the brain numbness started to fade, it was replaced by a nagging headache that lasted until this morning after I got some caffine in me. I was tired and lethargic. I had chills on Friday night that was actually bad enough to wake me up a couple of times through my sleep, but I never got any fevers. The injection site (left deltoid) got very sore -- I couldn't sleep on my left side at all. Saturday continued to suck, but at least the chills went away by Sat evening.

At least most symptoms seem to have past today.

[68style]

^ your mushy brain symptoms are just my daily life :okay:

[underscore]

I did want to add another symptom; heartburn. I don’t even know how many tums I’ve had to eat the last two days. Very uncomfortable

iirc the calcium in Tums can reduce the effectiveness of other medications, so if you're on anything else watch out for that.

FWIW, about ~2 hours after getting jabbed (with Modern), my brain started turning into mush and stayed that way for a solid 4 - 5 hours. When the brain numbness started to fade, it was replaced by a nagging headache that lasted until this morning after I got some caffine in me. I was tired and lethargic. I had chills on Friday night that was actually bad enough to wake me up a couple of times through my sleep, but I never got any fevers. The injection site (left deltoid) got very sore -- I couldn't sleep on my left side at all. Saturday continued to suck, but at least the chills went away by Sat evening.

At least most symptoms seem to have past today.

My experience was roughly the same. 2 hrs after the shot (Pfizer for the first two and Moderna this week) I was hit with a lot of fatigue and my thinking/focus took quite the hit. I conked right out for a nap on the couch for a couple hours and was out cold with kids banging on toys and stuff right beside me. No headache, but a very sore arm and chills waking me up a bunch that night. Fatigued and groggy all the next day til the evening, and then I cleared right up and felt good to go at around the 33 hour mark.

[Special K]

Got boosted today at a pharmacy. 10-15 mins in and out. Phizer x3. I feel extra tired and a mild headache.

[SkinnyPupp]

Anyone asking for a quad injection? I plan to... They have it detailed on the booking site that they do it for boys, but I think they'll do it for others if you ask.

Probably easier to convince them if you wear shorts LUL

[pastarocket]

-got my Moderna booster with wifey this morning at Canada Place.

-pretty efficient process. 30 minute wait for the booster. Then we sat for the usual 15 minutes on those chairs that belong to UBC. LUL

-many people were there for their 10:15 and 10:30 appointments.

The waterfront view at Canada Place is beautiful as always.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220117/0d4e5d6f5e833700a48618763f9e5b4c.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220117/22746d671768110a6f2cb17125f5eedb.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220117/3d8254eb927358e55b800353a3442c7b.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Special K]

Got boosted today at a pharmacy. 10-15 mins in and out. Phizer x3. I feel extra tired and a mild headache.

F… woke up this morning feeling like a major hangover. I was fine for the first two shots.

[blkgsr]

anyone seen any reported research on having AZ first shot then Pfiser send shot and what to get for the third?

[TOS'd]

go for the trifecta

This post has some relevant info, not exactly your case but still seems to point to M for booster.: https://www.revscene.net/forums/716747-coronavirus-discussion-567.html#post9049958

[MarkyMark]

Restrictions were supposed to end tomorrow for gyms, bars etc. and in typical fashion no one has any idea what they are going to do. I don't even own a business and it makes me furious for them lol

[inv4zn]

^Word on the grapevine is those restrictions are extended indefinitely.

[MarkyMark]

^Word on the grapevine is those restrictions are extended indefinitely.

Yeah they updated the website removing the expiry date but people assume it's so nothing happens before the update at 1:30 tomorrow.

Man I hope at least the gyms can open tomorrow this is getting depressing

[Traum]

Dr. BH's press conference has already announced that the restrictions on business and places of worship will be in place until further notice:

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/01/17/b-c-extends-covid-restrictions-indefinitely/

Was listening to the radio earlier in the morning, and it seems like the gym / fitness center situations are especially dire. A lot of them will probably be forced to close down. :(

[68style]

The gym at my condo is still open… RS spotters and oil-up boys meet?

[JDMDreams]

For all the gym Bros, can't you just lift outside? Run around outside? Home gym? Or are you just there for the view :ifyouknow:

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.tiktok.com/@kirstinelizabethd/video/7053569923641068806?sender_device=mobile&sender_web_id=6892998485470578181&is_from_webapp=v1&is_copy_url=0

:facepalm:

[68style]

haha fuck... I mean I hate gyms being closed too... but you can do entire body weight routines in your own living room without any difficulty if you just change your mindset. I did it for months and months without issue.

If you absolutely need to be in groups to work out there's something wrong with the approach/that's just a privilege not a right.

[MarkyMark]

Is sitting down at a restaurant with your buddies a right? The list of shit that's still open and what you're still allowed to do is what makes these restrictions insane.

[inv4zn]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3163657/did-omicron-arrive-chinas-capital-beijing-mail-canada

China blames Canada for sending Omicron by mail. :lawl:

[Teriyaki]

Here's how I see the gym issue. For the people that value the gym for one reason or other, its a pretty big loss. I don't consider myself a gym rat by any stretch of the definition, but I did finally get myself a habit of going at least twice every-week. For the "casuals" and "normies" like me, working up bit by bit where you finally have a good rhythm where you consider it part of your weekly routine to go to the gym is tough, its not an on/off switch. We also all know that once you stop going to the gym once or twice, its THAT much harder to start up again.

The social aspect... Did I go there to see people? No, do I need group lessons or whatever to get myself motivated? No. But its a destination, and a reason to get up in the morning and get stuff done and feel accomplished for your day, week etc.

I wholeheartedly agree that it was very good for mental health. Gym time was, time carved out in your day or week that was for you to make the effort, dedicate to being a place A, get better and improve. There was a cost to it, a time-cost, a physical-cost, money-cost, but it was worth it. It was really one of the few things I was doing that I felt I was progressing and not just "waiting it out".

I get that we need to control the spread, and nothing is ever going to be perfect and fair. There's always going to be some industry thats going to take the hit. Some people value the chance to eat-in at a restaurant among friends, some people value parks and outdoor activities, some people value casinos and other forms of indoor distraction like theatres. For some, like me, it was the gym. So while I'm absolutely bummed that it was chosen out of the many to be sacrificed, I'm also not mad about it. There are certainly those that are much more vocal, to the point of being obnoxious about it and there's no reason for that vitriol either. The virus exists, and nobody chose it to exist but it does.

Just throwing out some of the thoughts out there, for those that are looking from the outside in on the thought process of why it isn't just as simple as "working from home bro". It wasn't just about the gains, or getting swol, it was just the whole experience as a destination and a distraction in itself to everything else happening.

[320icar]

Day 3, add another symptom. I think I’m losing my taste? I’m not totally sure but it’s not a loss of taste but a change? Kind of hard to put words to, but I made some green bean/beef/black bean garlic and rice and it just didn’t taste right. My wife tried it and it seemed just like normal, so I cracked a blackberry wheat ale and it also taste… different.

[mb_]

I'm day 5 on mine and mostly feel recovered but still feel sore throat and cough. I was suppose to get my booster yesterday :lawl:

Worst was day 1-3 for me. My symptoms in the last 5 days were coughing, sore throat, fever, body aches, body chills, fatigue, runny nose in those order. Taking tylenol helped.

[Traum]

Day 3, add another symptom. I think I’m losing my taste? I’m not totally sure but it’s not a loss of taste but a change? Kind of hard to put words to, but I made some green bean/beef/black bean garlic and rice and it just didn’t taste right. My wife tried it and it seemed just like normal, so I cracked a blackberry wheat ale and it also taste… different.
Loss and/or loss of taste due to COVID is not at all surprising, at least with the previous variants. Omicron is supposed to have fewer people losing their sense of smell and taste, but it still seems to happen a bit.

Based on what I've read about past variants, some people's smell and taste comes back, but some don't, or potentially not all of it. And some people's sense of taste and smell changed. Since everything is still more or less an on-going experiment, there is no telling how things will play out.

Fingers crossed that it'll just be a phase that you'll get over as you recover.

[twitchyzero]

Day 3, add another symptom. I think I’m losing my taste? I’m not totally sure but it’s not a loss of taste but a change? Kind of hard to put words to, but I made some green bean/beef/black bean garlic and rice and it just didn’t taste right.

you think it was from ice racing? if you stayed with others? not trying to point fingers

get better

[68style]

Nah he didnt get it at ice racing... he got it when he came back and went to work

[320icar]

you think it was from ice racing? if you stayed with others? not trying to point fingers

get better

100% from work. No one else got sick from ice racing including my wife. She was home all week and I went back to work where it’s a literal dumpster fire. Never even went shopping or anything, just work and home.

My workplace has 1000% given up and is letting it spread like wildfire

[twitchyzero]

that's so frustrating

my boss was coughing quite a bit today :seriously: just stay tf home

[CivicBlues]

Anyone who is boosted get it?

[Hondaracer]

Anecdotal but my neighbour works for Canadian blood services and he said 2 of his colleagues were boosted 1-2 months ago and both are currently very sick after testing positive

[MarkyMark]

Anecdotal but my neighbour works for Canadian blood services and he said 2 of his colleagues were boosted 1-2 months ago and both are currently very sick after testing positive

Just make it sound more positive and say "without that booster they'd be dead!"

[68style]

Anyone who is boosted get it?

My dad… got it fairly bad…

But no sarcasm I have zero doubt in my mind he’d be in hospital or dead without the vaccines.

[JDMDreams]

Gyms are reopening only if you're vaccinated, I guess time to enjoy the view :ifyouknow::troll:

[MarkyMark]

I'm gonna double up on my steroids in celebration

[68style]

Gyms are reopening only if you're vaccinated, I guess time to enjoy the view :ifyouknow::troll:

Only if you're there bb :gayfight:

[SkunkWorks]

Well, finally happened - became a covid statistic as part of the hospitalized crew.

Back home now but want to extend my sincere appreciation for the folks at VGH. From arriving to being wheeled to my own room with all relevant tests done, was only 45 mins.

[CivicBlues]

Well, finally happened - became a covid statistic as part of the hospitalized crew.

Back home now but want to extend my sincere appreciation for the folks at VGH. From arriving to being wheeled to my own room with all relevant tests done, was only 45 mins.

Damn, what happened? All your posts before were saying you were feeling fine.

Glad you're ok though.

[JSALES]

What’s the likelihood of a PCR test detecting you’re still positive after previously getting covid within 90 days?

[hud 91gt]

I was just speaking to an acquaintance.

He’s just getting over round 2 of covid, and he’s double Vax’d. Haha so many antibodies.

[Liquid_o2]

My uncle tested negative for Covid when he was feeling tired and lethargic. Then he got more symptoms such as fever, etc. BOOM, tested positive. He is just getting over it now, but it shows that you need to get tested at the right time for it to be picked up.

[SSM_DC5]

^false negative is possible. Rapid test or PCR?

[320icar]

When I got my rapid test they made it clear to take the test 3 days after your first symptoms

[SkinnyPupp]

Hana Horka: Czech singer dies after catching Covid intentionally (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60050996)

Her son, Jan Rek, said she got infected on purpose when he and his father had the virus, so she could get a recovery pass to access certain venues.

Imagine.

And this is why we ban anti vaxx idiots from spreading bullshit. People like her who don't know any better end up killing themselves because of this misinformation.

[Hondaracer]

I love that no one anyone actually knows really dies of Covid anymore so news outlets have to make a martyr out of a Czech folk singer..

[SkinnyPupp]

You'll have to clarify that a bit, I don't understand what you're saying.. People don't die from covid now?

[320icar]

I can deal with the fever, cough, headache etc but this sore throat is just fucking my shit up. I can’t sleep at night cuz every gulp is like knives, and it’s starting to get quite inflamed. Though oddly enough doesn’t visually look inflamed (like strep/infection)

[Hondaracer]

You'll have to clarify that a bit, I don't understand what you're saying.. People don't die from covid now?

This isn’t like Lebron James went and got Covid intentionally and died. It’s a Czech folk singer that no one knows. This might as well be a singer at a local pub for the majority of the world. It’s not someone anyone cares about so it’s not really a “cautionary tale” it’s just some idiot and news media grasping at straws

[El Bastardo]

Weibo users are backing Beijing's claim that it received Omicron via Canadian mail, saying an 'ugly nation' sent them 'poison'


https://www.businessinsider.com/weibo-canada-mail-covid-19-omicron-poison-beijing-winter-olympics-2022-1


"Chinese social media users are supporting a claim that Beijing received Omicron through a package from Canada."

"Some have even gone as far as to say that Canada "deliberately poisoned" the document."

"The claim comes as China named Canada its least favorite country (https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202112/1243607.shtml?id=12) in a public poll."

[SkinnyPupp]

This isn’t like Lebron James went and got Covid intentionally and died. It’s a Czech folk singer that no one knows. This might as well be a singer at a local pub for the majority of the world. It’s not someone anyone cares about so it’s not really a “cautionary tale” it’s just some idiot and news media grasping at straws

The equivalent for us would probably be more like a retired singer or athlete a lot of people have heard of but don't think of much often.

It's absolutely a cautionary tale, because there are people who think covid is no longer a big deal, and think vaccines are evil, and will go get covid on purpose to avoid getting a vaccine.

[whitev70r]

This part of the article really stood out to me, she wasn't some cray cray anti-vax 5G chip wacko:

Although she was unvaccinated, Jan Rek stressed that his mother did not believe in some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines.

"Her philosophy was that she was more OK with the idea of catching Covid than getting vaccinated. Not that we would get microchipped or anything like that," he said.

There was no point in trying to discuss the issue with her as it would just get too emotional, he added. Instead, he hoped that by telling his story he could convince others to get vaccinated.

"If you have living examples from real life, it's more powerful than just graphs and numbers. You can't really sympathise with numbers."

[westopher]

I don’t think you really need to believe you get a microchip to be considered pretty fucking stupid if you are more afraid of the vaccines than you are of covid. It’s pretty simple math that’s readily available.

[whitev70r]

^ that's the kind of language that will polarize the hesitant. But go ahead ... you be you.

[SkinnyPupp]

"But Pfizer wants to make money" :derp:

I don't think all anti vax people (or vax 'hesitant') are all stupid idiots. Mostly just misinformed, or so strictly hate being "told what to do" that they'll do the opposite of what's in their best interests. Or a lot of people who can't see past themselves, and "if I get covid I'll be fine" as if the only thing that matters in life is one person.

[westopher]

^ that's the kind of language that will polarize the hesitant. But go ahead ... you be you.
You’ve got a different feeling about someone purposely catching covid? Have at it. I’m sure all the people looking for vax info are coming to the RS thread.
We are two years into this. People have been asked nicely, inconvenienced, told explicitly, been given encyclopedias of statistics. I’m not sympathetic to 99.9% of them.

[CRS]

^ that's the kind of language that will polarize the hesitant. But go ahead ... you be you.

Facts are facts. The whole idea that having a contrarian opinion makes it just as valid is fucking stupid.

When 2+2 = 4 but you believe it is 3, if I tell you that you're wrong. Is that polarizing?

[GIZZ]

Put it in the drinking water, like how they add fluoride. You wonder how they ever got away with that. I know, they just went ahead and started adding it.

[westopher]

Ha that was wild. Every dentist I have ever been to out here is like “you from edmonton?”
They can tell by looking at my teeth there was fluoride in the water.

[320icar]

Put it in the drinking water, like how they add fluoride. You wonder how they ever got away with that. I know, they just went ahead and started adding it.

I recently found out our water in BC does not have added fluoride. Hasn’t the dental benefits been known for like Over 100 years? And isn’t BC known as the cavity capitol of Canada?

Edit for context: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6221674

[westopher]

Have you tasted the water in edmonton? It’s disgusting.

[68style]

BC having almost no fluoride additive water is literally my favourite factoid to bring up whenever I run into conspiracy thoerists spouting nonsense about government controls of populations using fluoride :)

Actually, it's not widely used Canada-wide, first number is percentage of the population that's drinking water with fluoride... second number is percentage that is drinking water with no fluoride in it:


British Columbia 1.17% 98.83%
Alberta 42.43% 57.57%
Saskatchewan 39.6% 60.4%
Manitoba 69.01% 30.99%
Ontario 71.1% 28.9%
Quebec 2.49% 97.51%
New Brunswick 1.18% 98.82%
Nova Scotia 46.91% 53.09%
Prince Edward Island 24.20% 75.80%
Newfoundland/Labrador 1.46% 98.54%
Nunavut 28.83% 71.17%
Northwest Territories 64.91% 35.09%
Yukon 0% 100.00%

Canada as a whole 38.7% of water supply has fluoride, 61.3% does not.

This is from 2017 statistics, Alberta's numbers would obviously sway if Calgary jumped on the fluoride wagon. Only Ontario, Manitoba and NWT are heavy fluoride users.

[JDMDreams]

Surprise mother fuckers the gov lied again

Latest research shows Omicron infectious up to 10 days: Tam

But Tam told the House of Commons health committee that the sheer number infections from Omicron is stressing workforces and is a reason to adjust our risk tolerance for ending isolation periods early.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/latest-research-shows-omicron-infectious-up-to-10-days-tam-1.5745294

It might kill you but you gotta show up for work son, bekuz eCoNomiez :rukidding:

[white rocket]

"Proof of vaccination or recent infection from the virus is required in the Czech Republic to gain entry to many social and cultural venues, including cinemas, bars and cafes"

Do we think that recent infection from the virus will be as suitable as a vaccine here in Canada for entry to restricted vax-only zones at any point? Considering that countries like Austria are looking to impose heavy fines just to not getting vaxxed it seems a bit odd that other countries would recognize recovery from covid as similar protection to the vaccine itself. Millions of people get covid and recover and are not vaccinated so would those people get fines for not being vaxxed even though it seems that it should be recognized. Am I looking at this wrong?

[westopher]

As far as risk, i don’t think it will be necessary as vaccine passports will go away if the virus becomes something to truly not worry about. The real purpose of the passports is to inconvenience the unvaccinated into being vaccinated, so they “inconvenience” the medical system less.
The last thing they want is to get people to go catch covid so they can participate in social activities again, because look what happens.

[Hondaracer]

If you’ve already had Covid and recovered though what is the likelihood of you being a strain on the healthcare system?

Much of Europe is using that same system Czechia is using where you can get your vacc pass if your recovered, vaccinated, or have a valid PCR test.

[68style]

Surprise mother fuckers the gov lied again

Latest research shows Omicron infectious up to 10 days: Tam

But Tam told the House of Commons health committee that the sheer number infections from Omicron is stressing workforces and is a reason to adjust our risk tolerance for ending isolation periods early.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/latest-research-shows-omicron-infectious-up-to-10-days-tam-1.5745294

It might kill you but you gotta show up for work son, bekuz eCoNomiez :rukidding:

How did you jump to the conclusion that anyone lied?

As soon as they had updated data from further studies showing the virus is still infectious, they presented the information and are updating the information posted.

Nobody lied, they're being extremely upfront.

The provinces are the ones choosing to ignore the number of infectious days and coming up with their own policies.

[winson604]

How did you jump to the conclusion that anyone lied?

As soon as they had updated data from further studies showing the virus is still infectious, they presented the information and are updating the information posted.

Nobody lied, they're being extremely upfront.

The provinces are the ones choosing to ignore the number of infectious days and coming up with their own policies.

My thoughts exactly re the Provincial Government at least. Their decisions for the longest time has been more economy based not science based. I just came out of ISO last week but I did ISO for 5 and masked for another 5 at home.

[westopher]

If you’ve already had Covid and recovered though what is the likelihood of you being a strain on the healthcare system?

Much of Europe is using that same system Czechia is using where you can get your vacc pass if your recovered, vaccinated, or have a valid PCR test.
I think you should re-read my breakdown on it if you are posting to be contrary to what I said. Im not suggesting that someone who’s had covid and is reinfected is more likely to be sick than someone that’s vaccinated at all in what I wrote.
It’s gotta vary a lot pending on the person and how long since infection.

[Hondaracer]

Wasn’t trying to be contrary just more so wondering out loud and if those stats exist in terms of recovered, unvaccinated, cases.

If a country like Germany can roll with the recovered status as proof for a vax pass, there has to be a bunch of data on that being effective

[westopher]

They have to be around, but I think there would be so many different pieces of information to get really meaningful data about it.

[inv4zn]

Here's some actual info on recovery antibodies:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

So, science shows that most people who had covid have antibodies long-term.

But, it is extremely disingenuous to take this and say things like "you don't need the vaccine"...because you've already had fucking covid.

Having the antibodies in you from having covid isn't mutually exclusive of the effects of covid. And to try to answer the question whether already having covid excludes you from burdening the healthcare system - well there's documented evidence having covid (even if recovered) can fuck you up. So if you get re-infected because you're unlucky or new strain or whatever, then you could start with lower HP, and therefore be hospitalized easier.

I mean this is all statistical and hypothetical, but the "I've already had covid, I'm immune" is stupid and dangerous to yourself. There's lots of documented cases of reinfection.

We have someone at work who had it three times since the beginning of this. We call her Typhoid Mary behind her back, they spraybomed the entire office twice because of her.

[Hondaracer]

It’s stupid and dangerous yet Germany allows recovery for form of entry into places unvaccinated people couldn’t otherwise go?

[inv4zn]

It’s stupid and dangerous yet Germany allows recovery for form of entry into places unvaccinated people couldn’t otherwise go?

You misread, it's stupid and dangerous to think you are invincible - just like they are for vaccinated people.

Canada also allows proof of recovery to enter Canada.

[westopher]

TORONTO – Claims that the first case of the Omicron variant reported in Beijing ‘arrived on a parcel sent from Canada’ are being met with heavy skepticism by the scientific community as well as anyone who has ever tried mailing anything using Canada Post.

“It just doesn’t seem very plausible, sending covid through the mail like that,” remarks Torontonian Mary-Ann Demers, re-checking her mailbox for a Christmas gift sent on Dec 9th by a relative in Brampton. “My god, the shipping costs alone!”

While the amount of time that the coronavirus can survive on surfaces is still not fully understood, many scientists agree it is ‘highly implausible’ for any virus to remain viable at its destination after four return trips to the same distribution centre and a two-week stint lost in a sorting facility.


Dr. Vincent Tranh, an epidemiologist at McGill University, further refutes the claims. “Our lab has been extensively modelling transmission rate and all our models repeatedly show that for a package sent by Canada Post to be arriving in Beijing right now, it would have had to have been sent in early 2019.”

Canada Post has yet to respond to any of these accusations but have assured Canadians they will attempt to respond two more times, at which point their statement can be picked up from the nearest post office.

At press time, the Canadian government has thoroughly denied all allegations of ‘germ warfare’ from Beijing stating that if it was going to be sending the Omicron variant overseas, it would be doing so the old-fashioned way: through an Olympic delegation.
Response to chinas allegations.

[inv4zn]

Response to chinas allegations.

lol, just so you know, that's from a Beaverton article.

[Hondaracer]

You misread, it's stupid and dangerous to think you are invincible - just like they are for vaccinated people.

Canada also allows proof of recovery to enter Canada.

Yea, my bad.

I’m not trying to be this constant contrarian but do all these places which allow you to get your vax pass based on recovery have data we don’t? Or is it Canada and turds take on the Canadian public in that if offered that option people would opt for recovery over vaccination and we wouldn’t have the rates we do today? (Which seemingly not working all that well in terms of returning to normalcy..)

It’s kind of fucked to see what other places do, other places with triple the population in Germany allow recovered people to function in society whereas here it’s either get vaccinated or you’re out of society completely.

Would you be taking 4 flu shots within the same year you got the flu?

[inv4zn]

Yea, my bad.

I’m not trying to be this constant contrarian but do all these places which allow you to get your vax pass based on recovery have data we don’t? Or is it Canada and turds take on the Canadian public in that if offered that option people would opt for recovery over vaccination and we wouldn’t have the rates we do today? (Which seemingly not working all that well in terms of returning to normalcy..)

It’s kind of fucked to see what other places do, other places with triple the population in Germany allow recovered people to function in society whereas here it’s either get vaccinated or you’re out of society completely.

Would you be taking 4 flu shots within the same year you got the flu?
It's all in perspective I think.

Germany isn't some utopia you make it out to be...fully vaccinated/recovered can go into restaurants via vax-pass, but they also need to provide evidence of booster or current negative test. (Source: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-tightens-covid-19-restrictions-on-bars-and-restaurants/a-60355944). Arguably that's more stringent/worse than here. They're also mulling vaccine mandates nationwide.

I can also talk about Korea - they have a similar vax-pass, but you also needed one to go into grocery stores (this, they repealed after backlash). But sitting here in Vancouver you think Korea has gone back to normal life, whereas that's not true at all. My parents in Korea also think Canada is way too lax on everyday restrictions, and that it's far better off here than there. Like I said, perspective.

Or China, where also you think "regular life has resumed", they do shit like this:
At an office building in China's capital on Sunday, masked COVID-19 control personnel lugged boxes of pillows and bedding through the closely guarded entrance for white collar workers stuck inside, preparing for what may be days of lockdown as Beijing rushes to prevent the spread of Omicron ahead of the Winter Olympics.

The snap lockdown meant the building in the west of the city was sealed off without advance warning, with everybody inside unable to leave and subject to compulsory Covid testing. The decision to lock the office down came after an employee tested positive for Omicron on Saturday -- the city's first recorded case of the highly transmissible variant.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/beijing-locks-down-office-building-with-workers-still-inside-after-single-omicron-case-detected-1.5742943

Like, yes, things definitely aren't back to normal here, and current restrictions definitely have more impact/effect on some than others. But with bits of information and poorly captions pictures you see on the internet, it's impossible to make an informed deduction on where it's good and where it's bad.

[westopher]

https://www.euronews.com/amp/2022/01/06/are-countries-in-europe-are-moving-towards-mandatory-vaccination
Places in Europe and their various stances and plans on vaccine mandates.
Most are requiring health care workers to be vaccinated at least, which is nothing new. Nurses have been required to be vaccinated against things like TB and keep them current with boosters for well before my wife was doing it. Flu vaccines are mandatory or you need to work in a mask (long before the pandemic, pretty moot now)

[Hondaracer]

^ so most of that list uses recovery as a acceptable form for the pass.

I’m actually feeling those Greece policies, start fining the 70+ unvaccinated. Just like I posted before from those Alberta stats, the huge portion of ICU admissions is that 70+ bracket and seems logical it’s the same elsewhere

[mb_]

I'm day 5 on mine and mostly feel recovered but still feel sore throat and cough. I was suppose to get my booster yesterday :lawl:

Worst was day 1-3 for me. My symptoms in the last 5 days were coughing, sore throat, fever, body aches, body chills, fatigue, runny nose in those order. Taking tylenol helped.

Fuck I'm on day 7 but my cough came back with a bang this morning, was hoping I could go back to work tomorrow :okay:

[inv4zn]

I’m actually feeling those Greece policies, start fining the 70+ unvaccinated. Just like I posted before from those Alberta stats, the huge portion of ICU admissions is that 70+ bracket and seems logical it’s the same elsewhere


https://cdn.kapwing.com/final_61e891419852ac00781a2fff_444412.gif

[westopher]

LOL
I actually like the dialogue with Honda even though we disagree on some things, but that shits funny.

[Hondaracer]

*unvaccinated old people

[68style]

So, I got my booster at noon today in a Shoppers Drug Mart... this 14-ish girl was before me with her Dad and when she went in, I could hear the conversation with the pharmacist... she asked if she can get the shot in her right arm and the pharmacist is like "Oh are you left handed?" and she said "No, I'm not naturally... but I'm trying to force myself to be to unlock the creative side of my brain."

No words..................

[westopher]

lol, just so you know, that's from a Beaverton article.
U MEAN IT NOT REEL?
There’s more logic in it than Chinas accusation to be honest, but yes, I copied and pasted from the Beaverton.

[inv4zn]

U MEAN IT NOT REEL?
There’s more logic in it than Chinas accusation to be honest, but yes, I copied and pasted from the Beaverton.

Haha yeah for sure, it's a sad testament when satirical articles hold more weight than the truth..lol

[Traum]

Here is the Global News article on our response to China's allegation:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8518482/china-canada-mail-omicron-covid/

Dr. Gerald Evans, an infectious disease specialist at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ont., said it was “implausible” that a piece of mail from Canada would have any infectious virus on it that survived intact to result in a COVID-19 transmission event in China.

“SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, does not survive in an infectious form for very long outside an infected host or person,”
Evans cited a study released last week by the University of Bristol that showed that the virus loses 90% of its infectivity after 20 minutes in respiratory particles exhaled by a infected person, with the majority of that loss occurring in the first 5 minutes.

“This doesn’t sound credible at all,"

[Teriyaki]

We should send a harshly worded letter saying "Stop saying things that hurt the feelings of Canadian's"

[ImportPsycho]

I dont get why SOF is limiting capacity to 50%, their stores are never packed and social distancing just happens without even trying. Meanwhile shoulder to shoulder jam packed places like Costco and Ikea is ok with full capacity...

[Hondaracer]

290 people in hospital - the system is about to collapse!!!

900 people in hospital - lower the isolation time, if your kid has Covid but is asymptomatic he can go anywhere he wants!

UK also announced today, no more masks in public places or schools, no more vax pass for public events etc.

[StylinRed]

https://youtu.be/vshpyaAvfXs


The topic of gain of function research is growing again

[EvoFire]

So I've been sick since Saturday. Tested 3 times all negative but since it's a rapid antigen test, there's an asterisk to that.

I started with a fever, runny nose, and headache on Saturday, which went into Sunday. Monday I was just having a runny nose and a slight fever. Tuesday I started having thick yellow mucus, and yesterday was the same.
Just got woken up by the kid cause he was up, and I don't have my voice.

Wife and kid are sick too with different symptoms.
Wife had a sore throat and a headache for a day, and nothing else
Kid has a runny nose, fever, and some coughing.

We haven't seen anyone or gone to anywhere high risk. The only biggest transfer point is kid going to daycare. At this point I'm 50/50 about having covid because I just don't think the test is accurate when it tells me negative.

[westopher]

UK only did that cause BOJO is trying to give the kids a gift so they don’t kick him out of the house.
“Oh you want me gone? You can stay up past midnight and have a bag of m&ms whenever you want”

[!Aznboi128]

So I've been sick since Saturday. Tested 3 times all negative but since it's a rapid antigen test, there's an asterisk to that.

I started with a fever, runny nose, and headache on Saturday, which went into Sunday. Monday I was just having a runny nose and a slight fever. Tuesday I started having thick yellow mucus, and yesterday was the same.
Just got woken up by the kid cause he was up, and I don't have my voice.

Wife and kid are sick too with different symptoms.
Wife had a sore throat and a headache for a day, and nothing else
Kid has a runny nose, fever, and some coughing.

We haven't seen anyone or gone to anywhere high risk. The only biggest transfer point is kid going to daycare. At this point I'm 50/50 about having covid because I just don't think the test is accurate when it tells me negative.
The Rapid antigen test will only test accurately 3-5 days after.

Hope all is well tho, this shit sucks.

[Hondaracer]

UK only did that cause BOJO is trying to give the kids a gift so they don’t kick him out of the house.
“Oh you want me gone? You can stay up past midnight and have a bag of m&ms whenever you want”

If that’s what Covid has become then so be it. Once again we fall well behind our direct comparables.

How long can we grasp onto this “be safe be calm!” BS

Even my work place now is like, oh you’ve got lingering symptoms? Well a cough and sore throat sometimes stick around according to us so return to work please

Edit* also Ireland followed suit in the easing, which obviously doesn’t take directives from Boris, so it’s not just an election thing, it’s a reality thing.

[Traum]

UK only did that cause BOJO is trying to give the kids a gift so they don’t kick him out of the house.
“Oh you want me gone? You can stay up past midnight and have a bag of m&ms whenever you want”
IMO, while there is definitely a big dose of truth in what westopher has said, we also have to remember that:

1) The British attitude towards COVID has always been far more lax than we have. General mask use was never anywhere as close to the levels that we have seen here in Canada / BC / Metro Vancouver.

2) The NHS has been under far higher strains than we have here in Canada.

IMO -- and this is obviously only just IMO -- the more casual UK attitude is one of the reasons why UK has always seen higher COVID rates than we have. Of course UK cities have higher population densities than we do too, and that undoubtedly contributes to the higher rates of transmission as well.

At the end of the day, what I'm saying is -- the UK really has a higher need to relax their COVID restrictions because their healthcare and social system will collapse if they don't do this. But just because they do this doesn't mean it is the current gold standard. In fact, it is far from being the gold standard. It's just that Britons have always been realists. So given the predicament that they are in right now, it's just something they have to do.

If we do what the UK is doing, our case count is guaranteed to shoot up.

[Hondaracer]

So turns out Trump was actually right regarding remdesivir:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-trial-remdesivir-reduces-need-for-ventilation-by-half-for-covid-19-patients-1.5746373

And now Canada just approved the Pfizer anti-viral pill that “reduces the risk of hospitalization by 90%”

https://globalnews.ca/news/8516531/canada-approved-paxlovid-pfizers-new-oral-covid-pill-what-you-need-to-know/amp/

Which will of course by prioritized for the unvaccinated here in Canada.

Lift the fucking travel advisory ffs.

[68style]

Had my booster yesterday and felt fine, just the sore arm, even went to the gym last night… but today I feel like a truck hit my body… just sorrrrre everywhere.

[StylinRed]

So turns out Trump was actually right regarding remdesivir:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-trial-remdesivir-reduces-need-for-ventilation-by-half-for-covid-19-patients-1.5746373

And now Canada just approved the Pfizer anti-viral pill that “reduces the risk of hospitalization by 90%”

https://globalnews.ca/news/8516531/canada-approved-paxlovid-pfizers-new-oral-covid-pill-what-you-need-to-know/amp/

Which will of course by prioritized for the unvaccinated here in Canada.

Lift the fucking travel advisory ffs.

US prisons have also been giving inmates ivermectin to treat covid (prisoners are suing as they say they were given no choice)

[Hondaracer]

So global news at noon just ran this story with the reporter in the ICU in a Toronto hospital. They showed 6 fucking nurses and a doctor having to flip an unvaccinated 80 year old woman on a ventilator

“The outlook is not good”

Hahahaha like what in the fuckkkkkk are we doinggggg

I’m so glad we all “did our part” and more so that 80 year old unvaccinated people can decimate the businesses of young, healthy, vaccinated people. Really great.

[westopher]

I’m more worried about those unvaccinated old people preventing people who didn’t make the choice to forgo their chances of survival for other diseases that don’t have a simple way of protection from severe outcomes.

[Hondaracer]

Well yea.. the 80 year old anti vaxxer delays cancer treatment of someone for a month? Let them die.

The guy from global interviewed other people in the ICU and he said only 1 person who didn’t want to be on camera regretted it. Everyone else unvaccinated in the ICU didn’t regret anything

[SumAznGuy]

Well yea.. the 80 year old anti vaxxer delays cancer treatment of someone for a month? Let them die.

The guy from global interviewed other people in the ICU and he said only 1 person who didn’t want to be on camera regretted it. Everyone else unvaccinated in the ICU didn’t regret anything

Yeah, it's the same thing in the US when the delta wave hit.
End of the day, they say they rather die fighting for what they believe in.

Wait didn't we hear this before?

[Hondaracer]

I had never seen a news story inside an ICU during the entire pandemic until today

It might just be because I spend most of day staring at my phone but all the stories and articles coming out within the last week or so, I feel like we’re kind of at a tipping point here with people having had enough.

There’s stories going around now about how Bonnie came out and said gyms would remain closed before the “official” announcement and then by gauging the publics response they went to “Plan B” and allowed them to open. Might be a stretch but if it’s even half true, pretty fucked.

[SumAznGuy]

I had never seen a news story inside an ICU during the entire pandemic until today

It might just be because I spend most of day staring at my phone but all the stories and articles coming out within the last week or so, I feel like we’re kind of at a tipping point here with people having had enough.

There’s stories going around now about how Bonnie came out and said gyms would remain closed before the “official” announcement and then by gauging the publics response they went to “Plan B” and allowed them to open. Might be a stretch but if it’s even half true, pretty fucked.

I wouldn't be surprised based on how BoHo has flip flopped during the whole pandemic.
She's a puppet

She said masks don't work and then puts in a mask mandate.
And is seen at sporting events with no mask on.

I've seen a few, the news was inside an Italy ICU during the first wave. Everyone was on ventilators.
A few news stories inside ICU's interviewing Americans with covid during Delta. Most didn't regret not getting vaccinated because of them fighting for their rights and freedoms.

They aren't wrong in terms of the vaccine mandate but could have prevented a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.

But to win a war, you have to sacrifice a pawn or 2.

[Gh0stRider]

Went to get booster today, they asked which one i wanted. They recommended Moderna, but I went with Pfizer.

[white rocket]

Went to get booster today, they asked which one i wanted. They recommended Moderna, but I went with Pfizer.

https://i.imgur.com/bsY1VbT.gif

[BlackV62K2]

Those that got boosters, did you stick with the same brand as your first two? They recommended to me to get the other mRNA then my first two. I listened but also fuck them if they don't consider that fully vaxxed down the road if you need to have boosters in your vax passport too.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I got Pfizer for the first two, then Moderna for my third on Monday.

Sore arm within seconds. Went to bed that night and for the next 36 hours, I had a massive headache, full body fatigue and a mixture of chills and sweats. Had to take two days off of work and stayed in bed for practically that entire duration.

I felt pretty good last night so I ended up going back to work today.

[320icar]

Day 7 for me today and I feel just as shitty as day 2. I actually coughed a bunch last night. And now my wife is feeling pretty sick, and my 20 month old was coughing every hour last night, and was very fussy all yesterday =_=

[whitev70r]

Oh my ... the 20 month old is the crucial one, no vaccine. You two hopefully will be fine in a while but how do you isolate from the little one ... or is it even possible to isolate if you have a child under 5 in the house?

[westopher]

Fuck that’s a long go man. Sorry to hear, especially about the young guy. You guys all sorted for supplies?

[CRS]

I'll do a porch or whatever drop off if you need supplies.

Being a new dad I know how it feels.

[westopher]

My 8 week old had it as well (or I assume so)
Definitely no way to isolate unless you can pass them off to someone outside the household that can feed, change diapers, and all that.
It’s really just manifested as a very stuffy nose. We checked lots for fever but it didn’t seem to happen. I still have some congestion after 13 days now, and it’s finally subsiding.

[320icar]

Thanks guys! My mum has done a few drops already for us so it’s all going smoothly. We’re all just really going stir crazy though. Thankfully I haven’t had an appetite all week so the food supply is lasting without issue.

My cats and dog are having a blast having us home though. I figured I’d be feeling fine and had sometime to work on the Subaru, but I haven’t turned a single wrench. Man what a wasted week of no work

[68style]

Just get COVID Hondaracer said

Have a free week off work Hondaracer said

:troll:

[inv4zn]

The 20 month thing hits home, and honestly that's what scariest - and also why we called off every Christmas gathering, etc.

Statistics don't mean shit when your own child is suffering in front of you with absolutely nothing you can do but hope for the best.

But yeah, feel free to post here if you (or westopher, or anyone else) needs anything with no alternatives, and I'm sure lots of people will help out.

[Hondaracer]

Yea, even with my new PS5 being stuck at home is pretty wack.

Also that week off wasn’t my idea if I recall lol at least your guys cases didn’t fall on your booked off holidays

[Manic!]

So is UK the new hotness now. What happened to copying Sweden, Florida, or Texas?

I had to physically toss out 2 customers for not wearing a mask. One night was an old lady. The next day was her son. He thought he was tough but how tough can you be when you are so weak you can't wear a mask.

[68style]

I’m coming to Nanaimo on Monday Manic!… want to come by your station without a mask to use your crypto machine :D

[Manic!]

I’m coming to Nanaimo on Monday Manic!… want to come by your station without a mask to use your crypto machine :D

Will I need to bring out the bat?

[68style]

Will I need to bring out the bat?

Probably not, I'm Richmond levels of soft

[lilaznviper]

parents just got their 3rd shot. in and out pretty fast at shoppers. probably 30 minutes there vs the wait at ICC for the 1st and 2nd shot which took over an hour

[BlackV62K2]

Booster shot is kicking my ass with the side effects. Nothing but a sore arm from the first two.

[68style]

I’m okay now after 1 day laid out from my booster, all tip top again ready for my 4th shot lol