[Mr.HappySilp]

Seems like no one really posted this up I though I would. Is Canadian gov doing enough to prevent people with the coronavirus from entering Canada? I feel like any passenger coming from China needs to have their temperature check at the very least before entering Canada. Since there isn't a direct flight from Wuhan to Canada there is no telling who might be from Wuhan or have visited Wuhan before coming to Canada. Also with Chinese new year coming up a lot of Chinese tourist will be visiting Canada.

Wife and I are going back to China Beijing in March she seems a bit worry but I feel like as long as you are a healthy person, wash your hands, stay away from hospital basically common sense it should be fine.

It is Chinese new year soon so millions and millions of Chinese will be traveling though trains and air plane so it could spread to other cities in China very quickly.

[punkwax]

First confirmed case in the USA: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/death-toll-coronavirus-china-wuhan-1.5434256

[twitchyzero]

i had no idea SARS in 03 killed 40+ canadians

[SkinnyPupp]

Good thing there's no more tourism in Hong Kong :fuckthatshit:

[Mikoyan]

Seems like no one really posted this up I though I would. Is Canadian gov doing enough to prevent people with the coronavirus from entering Canada? I feel like any passenger coming from China needs to have their temperature check at the very least before entering Canada. Since there isn't a direct flight from Wuhan to Canada there is no telling who might be from Wuhan or have visited Wuhan before coming to Canada. Also with Chinese new year coming up a lot of Chinese tourist will be visiting Canada.

Wife and I are going back to China Beijing in March she seems a bit worry but I feel like as long as you are a healthy person, wash your hands, stay away from hospital basically common sense it should be fine.

It is Chinese new year soon so millions and millions of Chinese will be traveling though trains and air plane so it could spread to other cities in China very quickly.

CBC interviews with doctors with Public Health Agency of Canada said that the temp checks at the airports didn't end up catching any cases during SARS, and the costs to do so would be better spent at the local hospitals. They're checking temps as needed based on the initial CBSA screening.

Makes sense to me. Screening everyone and checking body temps may look good , but wastes resources and may be ineffective. Airport screening would only catch anyone who's currently ill. Case in point, the US case. Traveller was asymptomatic when he came through the airport Wed. Felt ill Sunday, and contacted medical help.

[CharlesInCharge]

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[danned]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/2087747328/h510A052A/h1n1-flu-virus

[320icar]

I’m actually extremely worried. Both my wife and I work in Richmond (I think you all know where), and she is 5 months pregnant.

I think we are some of the highest risk people in all of Canada.

[Spectre_Cdn]

^not to mention the Air China tour groups that go to the Richmond Costco. Plus the regular crowd :notlikethis:

[yray]

300 cases according to the chinese government... times that number by 10 is probably the amount of cases in chinar

[threezero]

For those with relative in China. People are hoarding N95 mask for resell. These mask have a five year self life, a lot of the mask being sold for $$$$ on taboo are expired or not even real N95 mask.

Resellers are starting to hoard up mask here as well. Might be worthwhile to hoard some yourself to send back to relatives.

major minus point for the Chinese government. They learn nothing from SARS. This was known in early December and instead of trying to prevent it from spreading they focus their resources on the cover up once again.

negative social credit for you CCP!!!!

[Mr.Money]

we hear the name for it,but is there any cure for it?



i was reading a 30 year old guy died from it

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93r4q9u6qws

[ilovebacon]

we hear the name for it,but is there any cure for it?



i was reading a 30 year old guy died from it


Your answer at 4:33 mark

[shabusen]

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[Mr.HappySilp]

I’m actually extremely worried. Both my wife and I work in Richmond (I think you all know where), and she is 5 months pregnant.

I think we are some of the highest risk people in all of Canada.

I think it will be ok. Maybe have your wife avoid places with crowd if possible.

^not to mention the Air China tour groups that go to the Richmond Costco. Plus the regular crowd :notlikethis:

Actually air China is offering refund on to tickets purchase before Jan 2020. Co Worker is going back Wuhan in March but might change her plan. Her mom is there and according to her there is a lot of information blackout happening. Lots of hospital are actually full currently, and they have police at the hospital anyone who isn't a paitent, visiting a patient, works there the police are forcing you to leave or arrest you.

For those with relative in China. People are hoarding N95 mask for resell. These mask have a five year self life, a lot of the mask being sold for $$$$ on taboo are expired or not even real N95 mask.

Resellers are starting to hoard up mask here as well. Might be worthwhile to hoard some yourself to send back to relatives.

major minus point for the Chinese government. They learn nothing from SARS. This was known in early December and instead of trying to prevent it from spreading they focus their resources on the cover up once again.

negative social credit for you CCP!!!!

Not sure how effective the mask is. After my infections I ask the doctors about mask. He just said most mask aren't effective and those that are people wore them wrong so is pretty useless.

[Vansterdam]

shits gonna skyrocket this weekend when lunar new year hits

[hud 91gt]

Pneumonia is not pretty. I’ve had it twice. (You are more susceptible after your first go). It kills people all the time, but generally those with weak immunity. 320 if you or your wife start to get run down, take it easy and don’t let it get the better of you. Wash your hands often and do your own due diligence, you will be fine. With the little one on the way, certainly take your precautions but honestly until this comes over and becomes a real issue, you don’t have much to worry about. I don’t think there have been any travel advisories yet.

[Euro7r]

Maybe I'm OCD with any kind of bacteria, I normally use some hand sanitizer right when I get into the office everyday and wash my hands right when I get home.

[asian_XL]

:fuckyea:

[SSM_DC5]

For those with relative in China. People are hoarding N95 mask for resell. These mask have a five year self life, a lot of the mask being sold for $$$$ on taboo are expired or not even real N95 mask.

Resellers are starting to hoard up mask here as well. Might be worthwhile to hoard some yourself to send back to relatives.

major minus point for the Chinese government. They learn nothing from SARS. This was known in early December and instead of trying to prevent it from spreading they focus their resources on the cover up once again.

negative social credit for you CCP!!!!

N95 masks need to be properly fitted through testing for it to work as intended. There are more than 1 kind of N95.
There's also been research that regular masks with added tissue paper can filter up to 90%

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ seems like a lot of places in Van is out of N95 mask, superstore, london drugs, shoppers, T and T etc etc
people must be buying them and shipping to China and see for profit.

[Hehe]

N95 masks need to be properly fitted through testing for it to work as intended. There are more than 1 kind of N95.
There's also been research that regular masks with added tissue paper can filter up to 90%

It's all about fitting it properly.

N95 standard is to test how a mask can filter when it comes to particles of 0.3μm or bigger, the 95 stands for 95%, N99 for 99 and N100 for 99.7%.

Source: my cousin who's an MD and worked during the SARS period.

During SARS, where N95 supply ran low (both in qty and logistical difficulties), my cousin would substitute their usual surgical N95 mask to whatever available at the time. As long as the fitting is right, it would do the same job. "Surgical" ones were reserved for surgical rooms as they have some extras in material and design for a sterile environment like surgical room, hence the designation "surgical".

Thus, for anyone who will be traveling or work in places with a high possibility of pathogen contact (airport), just grab a box of N95 for sanding and shit from HD or your fav hardware store. Only thing... learn to FIT IT PROPERLY!

[Hondaracer]

17 deaths world wide = panic panic panic!!

How many people in the same time frame died from regular flu? hundreds? Thousands?

:/

[Badhobz]

^so true hahaha. Even better if those non vax parents are now interacting with chinese kids. the fearmongering will be insane.

[Traum]

shits gonna skyrocket this weekend when lunar new year hits
Depending on the source of reference you look at, the claim is the incubation period ranges from 5 - 14 days.

The CNY mass migration in China involves some 3 billion+ trips. Locally for us here in Vancouver / Canada, I think shxt is gonna hit the fan when people start returning to Vancouver / Canada from China after their CNY trips.

IMO, the virus is already spread thoroughout most of China by now. The CNY travels will make it infinitely worse, so IMO, basically anyone and everyone returning from China has the potential to be a carrier. But if you start indiscriminately quarantining travellers from China -- which would have been the safest thing to do -- tons of people are gonna bxtch this way and that.
FailFish

[mikemhg]

17 deaths world wide = panic panic panic!!

How many people in the same time frame died from regular flu? hundreds? Thousands?

:/

This. People need to chill.

[Traum]

17 deaths world wide = panic panic panic!!

How many people in the same time frame died from regular flu? hundreds? Thousands?

:/
Please don't say that. While it is true that tens of thousands die from the regular flu every year, the mortality rate from flu is still estimated to only range from 0.1% to 2.5%. By contrast, SARS, a relative of the current Wuhan coronavirus, has a mortality rate of 14 - 15%, with the percentage being much higher for the elderly or immunocompromised people.

[Mr.HappySilp]

WuHan actually have suspend their subway and bus just now.

[Mikoyan]

WuHan actually have suspend their subway and bus just now.

Airport and train service shutting down too.

[1mcoupe]

debunked. disregard
RIP

[Hondaracer]

Please don't say that. While it is true that tens of thousands die from the regular flu every year, the mortality rate from flu is still estimated to only range from 0.1% to 2.5%. By contrast, SARS, a relative of the current Wuhan coronavirus, has a mortality rate of 14 - 15%, with the percentage being much higher for the elderly or immunocompromised people.

In the total SARS “scare” 774 people globally died.

In 2018 simple influenza caused 61,000 deaths.

By a simple numbers game, you’re probably gonna be aight.

People with compromised immune systems can die much easier from literally anything, a new virus your system isn’t used to? Yea probably not going to fair well.

[yray]

well the "17" number is verified cases... pneumonia can cause heart failure, kidney failure and various other things that may have not been attributed to the new virus in the earlier days.

[pastarocket]

Rumour has it that a Sales person from BJBMW contracted coronavirus and has passed. There is a string being forwarded around WhatsApp. Can anybody here confirm ?

If this is indeed true, it's time to stay away from BJBMW. Buy your Beemers at another dealership. :heckno:

[Y2K_o__o]

In the total SARS “scare” 774 people globally died.

In 2018 simple influenza caused 61,000 deaths.

By a simple numbers game, you’re probably gonna be aight.

People with compromised immune systems can die much easier from literally anything, a new virus your system isn’t used to? Yea probably not going to fair well.

The way we treated SARS was completely different than normal flu.
people who have contracted or show symptoms were quarrantined.
also it's the fatality percentage matters, but not the overall amount

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by 1mcoupe
Rumour has it that a Sales person from BJBMW contracted coronavirus and has passed. There is a string being forwarded around WhatsApp. Can anybody here confirm ?

Coughing and sick Beemer sales reps? :eek:

[shabusen]

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[Hehe]

In the total SARS “scare” 774 people globally died.

In 2018 simple influenza caused 61,000 deaths.

By a simple numbers game, you’re probably gonna be aight.

People with compromised immune systems can die much easier from literally anything, a new virus your system isn’t used to? Yea probably not going to fair well.

You just can't compare it like that.

Every year, tens of millions are affected by seasonal flu and yes, the absolute number of death is much greater. However, the difference is that Wuhan coronavirus has a much higher mortality rate AND there is no viable treatment options without life-long side effects. The only treatment option now, similar to how SARS was treated is basically bomb your body all sort of powerful agents to combat peumonia. And if you look it up, many who had SARS and were treated that way, had life long effects on their body that will never be able to recover from. Think how cancer patients are treated with nasty chemos... well, this is perhaps worse as it affects your bone, respiratory system... so on and once the damage is done, it's PERMANENT.

Seasonal flu... otoh, once treated, one would go back to their daily life without much difference from before.

If you had close family who had suffered through SARS (I did), you would NOT say that we shouldn't freak out about this. This virus is SO MUCH WORSE than even the strongest flu one'd ever encounter in their life.

[Hondaracer]

You know what I’m afraid of? Winning the lotto max.

Because there’s a hell of a better chance of winning that then catching these “outbreaks”

Stocking up on N95 masks is pure ignorance.

Also your comparison to the treatment of sars VS chemo or rediation therapy is asinine. How many people suffered those long term effects? How many people were ever even treated that way? A thousand? A hundred thousand? A million?

You know how many people a year globally get treated via chemo? Lol..

The type of people who buy into the fear of these outbreaks are the same who think the stock market is mumbo jumbo, etc. Ignorant people.

It’s a numbers game period. But yea be scared, stock up on masks, and stay inside bro’s

[Mr.HappySilp]

You know what I’m afraid of? Winning the lotto max.

Because there’s a hell of a better chance of winning that then catching these “outbreaks”

Stocking up on N95 masks is pure ignorance.

Also your comparison to the treatment of sars VS chemo or rediation therapy is asinine. How many people suffered those long term effects? How many people were ever even treated that way? A thousand? A hundred thousand? A million?

You know how many people a year globally get treated via chemo? Lol..

The type of people who buy into the fear of these outbreaks are the same who think the stock market is mumbo jumbo, etc. Ignorant people.

It’s a numbers game period. But yea be scared, stock up on masks, and stay inside bro’s

Stocking up and selling it in China for 5 to 7x the profit isn't ignorant is smart.

[Euro7r]

^Maybe it's just me, but making a few extra bucks off someone that actually needs the mask, just doesn't make me feel good or extra happier. To me if it concerns the well-being physically health of an individual, just doesn't feel good to take advantage. It's like, is your life going to change with a few extra bucks...

[punkwax]

Stocking up and selling it in China for 5 to 7x the profit isn't ignorant is smart.

No, it’s greed.

[SkinnyPupp]

17 deaths world wide = panic panic panic!!

How many people in the same time frame died from regular flu? hundreds? Thousands?

:/
The difference being that the flu statistics are the same as always, while we have a new deadly virus to deal with that China once again tried to cover up causing even more deaths.

[hud 91gt]

The difference is this is an aggressive virus. Your everyday joe contracting it is going to get sick. It’s going to suck. If Your immunity is compromised then it is worrisome. You have an unborn baby? Be careful. The chance of getting it is pretty slim. But this isn’t even worth talking about until it spreads wildly here.


Lol at MrHappy. That comment doesn’t surprise me at all from you.

[ae101]

n95 mask？oh bitch please

[Mr.HappySilp]

No, it’s greed.

The difference is this is an aggressive virus. Your everyday joe contracting it is going to get sick. It’s going to suck. If Your immunity is compromised then it is worrisome. You have an unborn baby? Be careful. The chance of getting it is pretty slim. But this isn’t even worth talking about until it spreads wildly here.


Lol at MrHappy. That comment doesn’t surprise me at all from you.

In case people haven't noticed a lot of places are currently sold out of n95 mask in Vancouver, superstore, London drugs, shoppers, T and T and some pharmacy are all out. That's the sad truth of there is money to be made these so called Daigou will buy all the stock and ship to China for profit. Happens to HK a lot to the point that hongers can't even find milk powder for their newborn coz is all bought up. Is it wrong? Maybe but as long as the store makes money government doesn't do anything it will continue.


We might have our first case here. 6 tourist have the same symptoms from China arrived in Quebec and is in hospital.currently. One of them is currently released as the test shows he is not a virus carrier. The rest of them are still in hospital.

[punkwax]

^ that’s not an excuse to do it as well. Shit like that is not the Canadian way.

If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

[SkinnyPupp]

I took this picture at the hospital, where I went twice over the last week. They doubled the price over that week, from $2 to $4 (you can see that the $4 price has been added to the sign)

https://i.imgur.com/d3wN3VA.jpg

Thankfully they were still giving them out to everyone who walked into the emergency area, free of charge. I just thought it was weird that a public hospital of all places is starting to gouge prices WutFace

[Mr.HappySilp]

^ that’s not an excuse to do it as well. Shit like that is not the Canadian way.

If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

Then a lot of us are also the problem. What are you going to do? Tell them stop buying up all the supply and if they don't listen fight them? What's the solution when stores turn an blind eye. People on HK try to stop this behavior and it didn't do much. We all turn a blind eye when we saw this and did nothing. Don't even have to look far. Just look at Costco, certain items are always out stock even a new shipment is in. I think it was on the news a years ago when these Daigou would buy up all specific brand of this make up right before the store opens and some of them even fight each other for it. The store wasn't even open yet but they got in somehow. One even posted online he knows exactly when the shipment comes.

https://thetyee.ca/News/2016/04/20/Chinese-Students-Global-Shoppers/

Here is a good read about it. Me personally every time o travel back I don't buy stuff or bring stuff back for friends and relatives. Of they want some they can buy it on their own.

[punkwax]

I’m not going to contribute to the problem. That is all.

[Hondaracer]

Just because it happens doesn’t mean it’s not gross.

Also I would hope as people become adults their time is more valuable than flipping $3 masks..

[MG1]

Please, please, please.............. don't let our country become like that.

[threezero]

The difference being that the flu statistics are the same as always, while we have a new deadly virus to deal with that China once again tried to cover up causing even more deaths.

They were never gonna admit there is a problem until the virus was detected oversea.

8 people were arrest for “spreading rumor about disease” online literally a couple days before the official statement from the government.

I also find it odd that Hong Kong has more suspected case than Shenzhen and Guangzhou.

[StylinRed]

Then a lot of us are also the problem. What are you going to do? Tell them stop buying up all the supply and if they don't listen fight them? What's the solution when stores turn an blind eye. People on HK try to stop this behavior and it didn't do much. We all turn a blind eye when we saw this and did nothing. Don't even have to look far. Just look at Costco, certain items are always out stock even a new shipment is in. I think it was on the news a years ago when these Daigou would buy up all specific brand of this make up right before the store opens and some of them even fight each other for it. The store wasn't even open yet but they got in somehow. One even posted online he knows exactly when the shipment comes.

https://thetyee.ca/News/2016/04/20/Chinese-Students-Global-Shoppers/

Here is a good read about it. Me personally every time o travel back I don't buy stuff or bring stuff back for friends and relatives. Of they want some they can buy it on their own.

You're comparing buying hard to find items whilst abroad for friends n family, to buying up medical equipment to resell at a high markup for profit during a medical emergency and hysteria... Those are very different things

You suggested being a greedy asshole, then continue with you're not like that, you won't even help friends n fam buy regular goods, which is an asshole move as they'd be forced to buy said goods from a reseller

[HonestTea]

I heard the China govt will be giving N95 rated masks to everyone and banning reselling of said masks online. Can anyone confirm?

[twitchyzero]

gee i didnt know we had so many virologists on here :ilied:

[SkinnyPupp]

They were never gonna admit there is a problem until the virus was detected oversea.

8 people were arrest for “spreading rumor about disease” online literally a couple days before the official statement from the government.

I also find it odd that Hong Kong has more suspected case than Shenzhen and Guangzhou.
I don't find it odd, there have probably been many unreported cases in SZ and GZ

[threezero]

I don't find it odd, there have probably been many unreported cases in SZ and GZ

I think Hong Kong reporting is way more accurate than mainland side. there has to be at least 10x more than what they are saying right now.

[danned]

https://i.imgur.com/LJK0GBj.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

China has shut down the city (https://au.news.yahoo.com/sars-lessons-hang-over-chinas-fight-against-virus-064354857--spt.html)... I was saying to my wife last night that the major benefit of having a complete authoritarian dictatorship is that you have the power to do things like this, that benefit the people pragmatically.

Anyone stuck in there is almost certainly doomed, but the rest of the world will be much safer this way.

[6793026]

China has shut down the city (https://au.news.yahoo.com/sars-lessons-hang-over-chinas-fight-against-virus-064354857--spt.html)... I was saying to my wife last night that the major benefit of having a complete authoritarian dictatorship is that you have the power to do things like this, that benefit the people pragmatically.

Anyone stuck in there is almost certainly doomed, but the rest of the world will be much safer this way.

I think it's freaking crazy to see how China is able to do this. Can't see anyone being able to this.

As to someone saying testing temperature is not effective... honestly, it's ONE way to detect someone who is already infected. If someone has high fever, it's a extremely good indicator, so why not.

HIGHLY doubt we will be that "lucky" to catch it in Vancouver. SARS was epic crazy; there were 400+ cases and 44 deaths, all in Toronto.

[StylinRed]

I thought ppl in Wuhan were still able to leave by car?

[asian_XL]

yes, they are allowed, and Hong Kong allows them to enter the city, dumb fuck gov't

[Mr.HappySilp]

https://m.facebook.com/headlinepopnews/videos/754575618371497/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F66141878055 2690%2Fposts%2F3192184270809449&_rdr=

Can't say 100,% is this is true.

http://forum.vanpeople.com/showtopic-694824.php
Military have arrive at Wuhan

http://forum.vanpeople.com/showtopic-694790.php
Can't confirm but basically in the chat and the picture are saying a ton of people from Wuhan was driving to Shanghai since Beijing is the capital and is harder to get into.

http://forum.vanpeople.com/showtopic-694748.php
Basically sum up what's happening in Wuhan but also showing military arriving at the city.

Not sure of it is all true since the Chinese government isn't telling everything. All I know is from my coworker who relatives are still Wuhan said basically most people are staying in their home and hospital is pack with people seeking to see the doctor even if they just have the cold in fear of catching the virus. Conwoker sister and her husband left for Japan just before Wuhan shut down so they are very lucky.

Also on the news there was a Chinese tourist going to France who had fever but decided to take some medicine, lower his temperature and was able to fly to France. It wasn't till he landed he told authority what happen. Now he is in the hospital…… certainly doesn't make the French happy.
Edit https://www.worldofbuzz.com/selfish-wuhan-girl-with-fever-cough-eats-medicine-to-trick-airport-health-control-so-she-can-travel/
Find the article. So it looks like she was just order to go to the local hospital for testing but wasn't force to go and no one knows of the actually went or not……

[Mr.HappySilp]

You're comparing buying hard to find items whilst abroad for friends n family, to buying up medical equipment to resell at a high markup for profit during a medical emergency and hysteria... Those are very different things

You suggested being a greedy asshole, then continue with you're not like that, you won't even help friends n fam buy regular goods, which is an asshole move as they'd be forced to buy said goods from a reseller

Maybe you don't have relatives from China asking to buy stuff for them (that's very lucky) but they don't just ask you to buy am item or two they actually send you a list of what they want from stuff to skin care products, Canada goose, jewelry, luxury brands. If you do it once they expect you to do it every time. Oh and the list is most likely going to take a whole suite case and went over your limit you can bring back to China without paying a duty.

If you are caught and have to pay duty they won't pay for that and some relatives would assume they don't need to pay you back since they assume we are all well off in Canada.

Just ask skinny he knows too well about it. Is just best to tell them you aren't helping them right off the bat to a avoid any unhappy feelings down the road. Beside when I travel I do not want to carry more luggage than I have to.

[pastarocket]

The source of the coronavirus may be snakes. :considered:

Coronavirus study:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/01/23/snakes-wuhan-coronavirus-study/


Some co-workers thought it was the coffee bean eating civet cat as the source of this virus. It may not be the cat after all.

[Mr.HappySilp]

I heard the China govt will be giving N95 rated masks to everyone and banning reselling of said masks online. Can anyone confirm?

No the gov is not giving out free N95 mask. What the gov is doing is banning people from raising price of said mask. Which I mean doesn't mean anything.

I don't find it odd, there have probably been many unreported cases in SZ and GZ

Sad but true there are many many unreported case or the doctors at the hospital have been told not to say a world.

https://youtu.be/VLp8CHeKQkI

[Bouncing Bettys]

Gotta take precautions and wipe that bottle
https://youtu.be/dvo8Fep5ifk

[ae101]

wuhan has shutdown aka sealed period, air and rail is closed with the only transport is car (bus are gone too)

Ppl are selling mask like crazy now in china, I was at the cny markets and ppl are selling them on the streets g style

Everywhere u go u see ppl wearing masks and all major public places all have signs that say they disinfect every so so time, as well as sanitation areas and temperature checks at airports, train stations and metro stations

Also I heard that 17 ppl that contact the virus in wuhan with one cured and on its way to recovery

But this is China, report might fake just to calm ppl down and give ppl hope

[6793026]

yes, they are allowed, and Hong Kong allows them to enter the city, dumb fuck gov't

Wuhan has 11.8 million people, 600 confirmed global cases now (even if we times that by 100, with 60000 cases), that's less than 0.005
There hasn't been a country restricting people from Wuhan, I can't see why Canada would be doing so.
I would be pissed if had a connecting flight and then get locked down just cause I had a transfer.


https://m.facebook.com/headlinepopnews/videos/754575618371497/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F66141878055 2690%2Fposts%2F3192184270809449&_rdr=


Not sure of it is all true since the Chinese government isn't telling everything. All I know is from my coworker who relatives are still Wuhan said basically most people are staying in their home and hospital is pack with people seeking to see the doctor even if they just have the cold in fear of catching the virus.

China said they have 1000 beds (in wuhan) opened up for this, not sure how trueout notice they have 1000 beds opened up. I am not surprised by that FB video, they have to isolate and quarantine people. They can't have a separate ventilation system within every hospital room, that's why they have these instant built your own tents. It looks worse that it is.

As to people driving... you can't ban people from driving or walking. They already stopped trains + planes which is already unheard of any parts of the world. Can people drive 5 hours to the next airport, yes, probably. I'm sure there are always ways if you ever had to leave, but I'm not surprised if there are army check points.

I would be pissed if the army got some corrupted people handing them cash just so they could leave (assuming they locked down the hwy).

[Doubl3_H]

Look at the prices of n95 on CL. $10 a piece, what a joke.

[Mr.HappySilp]

https://fbwat.ch/1jPagQKsHJAGeN9o
Again not 100% confirm. Seems like the doctors in Wuhan is starting to break down.

[MG1]

gee i didnt know we had so many virologists on here :ilied:

‘cause the news of it has gone viral? :troll:

[Mr.HappySilp]

wuhan has shutdown aka sealed period, air and rail is closed with the only transport is car (bus are gone too)

Ppl are selling mask like crazy now in china, I was at the cny markets and ppl are selling them on the streets g style

Everywhere u go u see ppl wearing masks and all major public places all have signs that say they disinfect every so so time, as well as sanitation areas and temperature checks at airports, train stations and metro stations

Also I heard that 17 ppl that contact the virus in wuhan with one cured and on its way to recovery

But this is China, report might fake just to calm ppl down and give ppl hope

Seems like you are in CHina now. Can you confirm that China have shut down 9 cities so far?

[SkinnyPupp]

2nd case in Japan, a tourist from Wuhan who I guess got through before the flights were grounded? Or maybe came in from another city

https://twitter.com/NHKWORLD_News/status/1220476568012652545

[SkinnyPupp]

Two more cities near Wuhan have been locked down (https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1504458-20200123.htm)

[sonick]

Anecdotes from 2 degrees of acquaintence (friend of friend) who work at CBSA at airport saying two people have been quarantined at Richmond general.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1220358585713999874

People crowding to hospitals in Wuhan.... This is the LAST PLACE you want to go if you're not actually sick FailFish

[BIC_BAWS]

Anecdotes from 2 degrees of acquaintence (friend of friend) who work at CBSA at airport saying two people have been quarantined at Richmond general.I thought it was fake news, but friend at VCH confirmed it to me that there are people at RGH suspected to have it and are undergoing testing.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200124/757abcfb833d33c17c935f0e0d3f7418.jpg

Edit: @JDMDreams I doubt there would be headlines, cause they don't want to cause mass panic.

[JDMDreams]

NVM posted above already. Wonder if it's confirmed. Didn't see any headlines about it

[sonick]

Just in from @PHSAofBC. Despite rumours to the contrary, there are NO confirmed cases of novel coronavirus at Richmond Hospital or anywhere in B.C.

https://twitter.com/NEWS1130/status/1220515611739951104

[SkinnyPupp]

News site putting gifs in their tweets FailFish

[Mr.Money]

damn Wuhan and its bat soup.

[BIC_BAWS]

Just in from @PHSAofBC. Despite rumours to the contrary, there are NO confirmed cases of novel coronavirus at Richmond Hospital or anywhere in B.C.

https://twitter.com/NEWS1130/status/1220515611739951104

I have mixed feelings about this. I feel like the Gov are more likely to have tight lips on the situation to avoid mass hysteria.

On another note:

According to Vancouver Sun:Three airports in Canada, including Vancouver’s, have added messaging to arrivals screens reminding travellers from Wuhan to tell a border service officer if they have flu-like symptoms.

A health question was also added to electronic kiosks, and those who have visited Wuhan will be subject to closer screening by border-services officers. Those with flu-like symptoms will be referred to a quarantine officer and then taken to Richmond Hospital for assessment, while others will receive information packages.

Yikes, self-reporting. I wonder if people are more likely to be honest about their symptoms or would they just lie about it.

[sonick]

Perhaps they were quarantined for symptoms but it did not turn out to be coronavirus.

http://nmaa.co.id/1/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ff-1-brew.gif

[DaJo]

I have mixed feelings about this. I feel like the Gov are more likely to have tight lips on the situation to avoid mass hysteria.

On another note:

According to Vancouver Sun:

Yikes, self-reporting. I wonder if people are more likely to be honest about their symptoms or would they just lie about it.

This makes sense... If we've been sending potential patients of the Coronavirus to RGH, then it's possible that the news about it contacting this virus more real... I agree, the gov will always try to downplay it so it does not create a mass panic attack...

[Traum]

Yikes, self-reporting. I wonder if people are more likely to be honest about their symptoms or would they just lie about it.
In a situation like that (declarations at the border), isn't it a federal crime to make false declarations?

Of course, if someone where to make that false claim, I doubt federal prosecution is a thing on their mind...

[BIC_BAWS]

In a situation like that (declarations at the border), isn't it a federal crime to make false declarations?

Of course, if someone where to make that false claim, I doubt federal prosecution is a thing on their mind...

It's also a crime to falsely identify as a witness to an ICBC claim or make a false report to the police. I don't think people actually care or get prosecuted.

Also it's technically a false declaration when you declare $800 (CAD) rather than $800 USD at the border. But meh

[RiceIntegraRS]

U also forgot about the Chinese factor, like they give a fuck

[BIC_BAWS]

Found a subreddit dedicated to this topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/

[spoon.ek9]

I won't go into where I work but I want to say a couple of things.

1. You need to question where your information is coming from. Are they credible? What's their source?

A couple of screenshots being passed around on whatsapp has about the same validity as "yo i heard mcpizza is coming back, trust me I have a source"

2. The vast majority of people who die from seasonal flu include: The elderly, individuals with severely compromised immune systems (terminally ill, cancer patients, etc) and children can be susceptible too. SARS (and potentially the current virus) was capable of killing individuals who were otherwise healthy before being infected. It is NOT the same.

[320icar]

Wuhan, 2017

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO-8nCvWAAEclGk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/96rqUrX.gif

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong public hospital employees are threatening to strike if HK doesn't close its borders to China

https://twitter.com/the852spirit/status/1220520464872853504

[SkinnyPupp]

U also forgot about the Chinese factor, like they give a fuck
lol @ anyone who thinks it would be common to self report properly

https://twitter.com/ChrisDerps/status/1220571900214153216

Another rumor going around is someone being quarantined at the airport ripped the mask off a doctor and spit in their face...

Of course times like these, 99% of what we hear is going to be bullshit.

[HonestTea]

LOL

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc/tls/d/vancouver-bnib-new-n95-respirator-masks/7060570417.html?lang=fr&cc=ca

5K supply

[unit]

geez how pathetic. i have a box of 20 that i bought years ago sitting at home. if anyone really wants one i can give you one for free.

[Presto]

LOL

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc/tls/d/vancouver-bnib-new-n95-respirator-masks/7060570417.html?lang=fr&cc=ca

5K supply

There's a bitch that needs to be trolled hard.

[pastarocket]

Coronavirus hits Europe. Two reported cases in France.

The mainlanders are being quarantined in Paris and Bordeaux now.


https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/01/24/france-confirms-2-cases-of-virus-from-china-1st-in-europe/

[Euro7r]

There's a bitch that needs to be trolled hard.

Arrange meetup to buy all, say deliver out to Abbotsford and no show :troll:

Unless you are a store vendor, I don't see why normally someone would have so many.

[hud 91gt]

Technically they are a one time use mask. Having a small stock isn’t out of the question.

I don’t know how medical personel can’t trust those things. Even if your “fit tested” they still get bumped around. Shit, even with a true respirator half the time I have “leak” marks on my face (particulate which has bypassed the seal). I’m far from a germ freak, but I wouldn’t dare work in a hospital without a space suit. Hahah when this junk is going around. Lol

[SkinnyPupp]

This virus isn't airborne, so the only thing the mask needs to do is block droplets from going into your nose and mouth. You don't need a respirator or even N95.

BTW China has now locked down 16 cities, putting 46 million people essentially in quarantine.

They are taking extremely drastic measures to control this. That's good, but it makes me wonder if the actual numbers are much much higher than they are saying.

HK protesters are going to try to shut down the high speed rail. 4 out of the 5 cases here have come in from Wuhan on that train.

[belka]

Guaranteed that Vancouver and Toronto will be first on the list to receive cases, best thing to do is restrict travel from Asia, not self-declare a fucking headache. When people start to die in Richmond it’ll be too late.

[corollagtSr5]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dy1D3d1FBcw

[MG1]

More like, "She's a Dirty Girl."


Like a former girlfriend said to me once............ "You turned me into a dirty girl." :fuckyea:

[Hondaracer]

Bring the sick to the birth tourism ward

[SkinnyPupp]

Bring the sick to the birth tourism ward
:pokerface:

[ilovebacon]

I think I'm going to stay away from Richmond for a while

[belka]

I think I'm going to stay away from Richmond for a while

I actively avoid that cesspool whenever I’m in the GVA.

[SkinnyPupp]

Local governments are sealing themselves off from the epicenter

https://twitter.com/Comparativist/status/1220713217736863744

[Manic!]

Bring the sick to the birth tourism ward

Why not be a real man and go there and kill them yourself?

[highfive]

Bring the sick to the birth tourism ward

What a piece of shit thing to say. The child did no harm. Plus you don’t wish anyone to get sick.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's part of the racist element of this whole thing, and the fact that the virus originated in China is not helping, with other cultural shit going on, and with their government basically turning their backs on the world.

I tried focusing for a minute what it would be like to just be a normal citizen of Wuhan, seeing thousands of people getting sick right before your eyes, seeing on social media videos of people flooding familiar hospitals, medical staff having mental breakdowns (one doctor died of a heart attack due to the stress). It's like a horror movie.

Nobody really knows the true extent of this - the people know because of SARS that their government will lie. Western researchers are estimating that China's official numbers represent about 5% of the actual numbers.

Then they shut down the train and airport, taking away your easiest (or for some, only) options to get out of there. Roads around you are being blocked with piles of dirt, or if you do get out, people from neighboring cities won't take kindly to you, and will treat you like a direct threat to their lives. (not blaming anyone for this - it's very contagious, and people can carry it without showing any symptoms)

If escape isn't an option, you just have to sit and wait it out, and simply hope the virus isn't deadly enough to kill you once you inevitably get infected. Maybe you and your wife survive, but your children and parents don't. For these people, it's hardly a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

During this time, you probably don't want to go near other people. Food will be scarce. There will be looting and possibly vandalism and who knows what else?

Just put yourself in that mindset for a second before thinking how funny it is that they are ground zero for possibly the worst pandemic we've seen since the Spanish Flu. You're rightfully upset about birth tourism, but come on.

[Traum]

Plus you don’t wish anyone to get sick.
Oh on this point alone, I beg to differ. I wish every leading gov representative in Carrie Lam's cacuss (including Carrie Lam herself, of course) will get sick and die the most miserable, prolonged, and painful death possible. For everything that they have done (or not done) to sell Hong Kong out, they deserve nothing less than that.

[SkinnyPupp]

Oh on this point alone, I beg to differ. I wish every leading gov representative in Carrie Lam's cacuss (including Carrie Lam herself, of course) will get sick and die the most miserable, prolonged, and painful death possible. For everything that they have done (or not done) to sell Hong Kong out, they deserve nothing less than that.
BTW

https://twitter.com/sumlokkei/status/1221008733397909504

[6793026]

Few post on FB got me mad.
1) HKongers says the gov't should have shut down and bar flights from Wuhan from beginning. There's not one country doing so, what makes you think HK as a city has the right to go beyond Center of Disease to pull that kind of rank and power.

2) Go on strike at hospitals cause these Mainlanders are getting people sick in HK.
My mom is ER in HK for 15 years, and OR for another 10, my dad is doing chemo right now so I have the utmost respect to health care. No OT and at times risking their lives.

They can't pick and choose based on color and race to rescue / heal. What makes you think we can do so in China.

Who is to say my department is more at risk so I'm going to strike, whereas if your mom and dad got into a car accident, can't go on strike.

As to Skinny's comment, being at ground zero or even close to it is hard to imagine.

11 million people in Wuhan (that's entire BC + Alberta population together), 1300 confirmed cases globally. Let's assume its 130,000 are current affected, that's the entire population of maple ridge, or Coquitlam. Maybe if Richmond was ground zero, I can see Richmond being a gong show, how will it really affected Abbotsford, Hope, Whistler, kamloops would be interesting if that ever happened.

[Hehe]

Welp... you know the shit is getting serious when US is evacuating consulate staff and citizens out of Wuhan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa/u-s-to-evacuate-its-citizens-from-wuhan-china-wsj-idUSKBN1ZO0FM

[Traum]

I understand your frustrations, and I agree that medical staff are essential service providers that should not go on strike under normal circumstances.

On the other hand, what tools would front line medical staff have when the totally undemocratic bastard gov is selling you out stright to your death? Cuz the other option for these medical staff is mass resignation.

If you don't already know, Hong Kong medical services have already been long overstretched. Every flu season, hospital usage dramatically exceeds capacity -- I seem to remember reading usage stats in the under 120% range. They are chronically short staffed, and the HK gov has long proven to not give a damn about the medical sector's call for help. And now in the face of this massive epidemic, the HK gov's refusal to do anything at the border means floods of sick Chinese patients will swmap the HK hospital systems. The (HK hospital) system is practically ready to burst any minute now. Isolation ward usage is already near capacity at many places. HK01, a Mainlander-funded Hong Kong newspaper that pretends to be politically neutral, published a news article yesterday saying that the ER at Prince of Wales Hospital have already been flooded with patients showing flu-like symptoms, with scores of them claiming to have come from Wuhan.

Few post on FB got me mad.
1) HKongers says the gov't should have shut down and bar flights from Wuhan from beginning. There's not one country doing so, what makes you think HK as a city has the right to go beyond Center of Disease to pull that kind of rank and power.

2) Go on strike at hospitals cause these Mainlanders are getting people sick in HK.
My mom is ER in HK for 15 years, and OR for another 10, my dad is doing chemo right now so I have the utmost respect to health care. No OT and at times risking their lives.

They can't pick and choose based on color and race to rescue / heal. What makes you think we can do so in China.

Who is to say my department is more at risk so I'm going to strike, whereas if your mom and dad got into a car accident, can't go on strike.

As to Skinny's comment, being at ground zero or even close to it is hard to imagine.

11 million people in Wuhan (that's entire BC + Alberta population together), 1300 confirmed cases globally. Let's assume its 130,000 are current affected, that's the entire population of maple ridge, or Coquitlam. Maybe if Richmond was ground zero, I can see Richmond being a gong show, how will it really affected Abbotsford, Hope, Whistler, kamloops would be interesting if that ever happened.

[buhdeh]

Looks like mainlanders have brought into Canada. First case being confirmed in Ontario.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Few post on FB got me mad.
1) HKongers says the gov't should have shut down and bar flights from Wuhan from beginning. There's not one country doing so, what makes you think HK as a city has the right to go beyond Center of Disease to pull that kind of rank and power.

2) Go on strike at hospitals cause these Mainlanders are getting people sick in HK.
My mom is ER in HK for 15 years, and OR for another 10, my dad is doing chemo right now so I have the utmost respect to health care. No OT and at times risking their lives.

They can't pick and choose based on color and race to rescue / heal. What makes you think we can do so in China.

Who is to say my department is more at risk so I'm going to strike, whereas if your mom and dad got into a car accident, can't go on strike.

As to Skinny's comment, being at ground zero or even close to it is hard to imagine.

11 million people in Wuhan (that's entire BC + Alberta population together), 1300 confirmed cases globally. Let's assume its 130,000 are current affected, that's the entire population of maple ridge, or Coquitlam. Maybe if Richmond was ground zero, I can see Richmond being a gong show, how will it really affected Abbotsford, Hope, Whistler, kamloops would be interesting if that ever happened.

IN china if you don't have the $$$ hospital won't even admit you.

[xjc11]

funny... haven't seen a single "pray for wuhan" photo on social media. But when it's a "tourist" destination, I always see this(ie. pray for paris)

[Hondaracer]

Koalas > Mainlanders?

i joke, i joke :badpokerface:

[MG1]

So this may be the Year of the Rat, but if it gets any worse, we might have to call this, the year of the Bat!

I don't buy it, but it makes for good story.............. bat soup, lol.

[is350]

This virus isn't airborne, so the only thing the mask needs to do is block droplets from going into your nose and mouth. You don't need a respirator or even N95.

BTW China has now locked down 16 cities, putting 46 million people essentially in quarantine.

They are taking extremely drastic measures to control this. That's good, but it makes me wonder if the actual numbers are much much higher than they are saying.

HK protesters are going to try to shut down the high speed rail. 4 out of the 5 cases here have come in from Wuhan on that train.

I'm curious, what sources have you read and claimed that Coronavirus isn't airborne?

So far we know that it can be spread if someone coughs or sneezes close to another person, so airborne really isn't out of the question.

At this point, we don't even know the incubation period or the period of infection where the virus can be spread to another person. There are still a lot more information that's not confirmed at this point.

[SkinnyPupp]

Few post on FB got me mad.
1) HKongers says the gov't should have shut down and bar flights from Wuhan from beginning. There's not one country doing so, what makes you think HK as a city has the right to go beyond Center of Disease to pull that kind of rank and power.

2) Go on strike at hospitals cause these Mainlanders are getting people sick in HK.
My mom is ER in HK for 15 years, and OR for another 10, my dad is doing chemo right now so I have the utmost respect to health care. No OT and at times risking their lives.

They can't pick and choose based on color and race to rescue / heal. What makes you think we can do so in China.

Who is to say my department is more at risk so I'm going to strike, whereas if your mom and dad got into a car accident, can't go on strike.

As to Skinny's comment, being at ground zero or even close to it is hard to imagine.

11 million people in Wuhan (that's entire BC + Alberta population together), 1300 confirmed cases globally. Let's assume its 130,000 are current affected, that's the entire population of maple ridge, or Coquitlam. Maybe if Richmond was ground zero, I can see Richmond being a gong show, how will it really affected Abbotsford, Hope, Whistler, kamloops would be interesting if that ever happened.
Other countries have blocked travelers from Wuhan (before their airport was blocked) Taiwan did it immediately, and Philippines sent a flight back to China. HK has now blocked Wuhan but a lot of people want all of China to be blocked.

Considering the proximity and that fact that there is still effectively a border, I think it would be prudent to close the border completely to Mainland visitors for the time being.

It's possibly too late anyway. There could be hundreds of people with the virus right now, and won't know it for another 2 weeks.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm curious, what sources have you read and claimed that Coronavirus isn't airborne?

So far we know that it can be spread if someone coughs or sneezes close to another person, so airborne really isn't out of the question.

At this point, we don't even know the incubation period or the period of infection where the virus can be spread to another person. There are still a lot more information that's not confirmed at this point.
The virus itself isn't floating around in the air - It needs to ride on a droplet of saliva or mucous. So it can be sent on an airborne particle (a cough or a sneeze), but the virus itself dies when it gets dry.

This is why you don't really need an N95 mask - it's not a tiny particle that will go through a normal mask. You just need to prevent infected mucous or saliva from entering your mouth, nose, and eyes (a HK medical official advised yesterday that people should consider wearing glasses in public places)

[Badhobz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOzpt9yWkAUPo0u.jpg

Brilliant !!!!

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/01/25/public-health-officials-in-ontario-call-evening-news-conference/

[SkinnyPupp]

Chinese official count of infected is up to 1975 (up 600 from yesterday). Actual number possibly 40K

Official death toll 56 (up 15 from yesterday), meaning actual number around 1100

Ocean Park and Disneyland just closed in HK. I believe movie theatres are still operating.

Xi calls this a "grave situation". Carrie Lam still refusing to do anything other than political grandstanding. Says she has to wait for factories in China to start operating before attaining masks for the public (despite there being some mask manufacturers in Hong Kong)

[ilovebacon]

Apparently there is 90k infected.. I'm not sure how reliable this source is but you can judge the video yourself.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQflXs0jZ9w&fbclid=IwAR29-NMqSiTYqXFctCsTPC6CRrAxC7TqlL8DbYkXP7oBiZQeCvjc_MT h5zI

[Hondaracer]

Lol spread the misinformation!

Problem is no one will know. Likely even the Chinese govt. is in the dark

[Hehe]

Lol spread the misinformation!

Problem is no one will know. Likely even the Chinese govt. is in the dark

They are not in the dark... it's just they don't want to run the chance of a total chaos if they release a figure say 90,000.

Rumor has it that Chinese officials "convinced" the WHO to narrowly voted down to declare this as an emergency. (because when WHO declares it, it would put the whole China-world logistic into lockdown).

But I've gotta say, if this coronavirus spreads further, the blood is on these people at WHO. Because they valued economy more than human lives. When the whole goddamn idea of WHO is to promote worldwide health.

[ilovebacon]

A friend of mine who lives in shanghai told me that everyone is scared and people are advised to stay home and not to go out.

[Hondaracer]

They are not in the dark... it's just they don't want to run the chance of a total chaos if they release a figure say 90,000.

Rumor has it that Chinese officials "convinced" the WHO to narrowly voted down to declare this as an emergency. (because when WHO declares it, it would put the whole China-world logistic into lockdown).

But I've gotta say, if this coronavirus spreads further, the blood is on these people at WHO. Because they valued economy more than human lives. When the whole goddamn idea of WHO is to promote worldwide health.

Even these days there is a chain of information that is behind the reality.

That video that’s been going around with all the excavators “building a new hospital” is some sort of propaganda or some shit..literally anyone who has ever run an excavator would know that is simply a show

[SkinnyPupp]

Even these days there is a chain of information that is behind the reality.

That video that’s been going around with all the excavators “building a new hospital” is some sort of propaganda or some shit..literally anyone who has ever run an excavator would know that is simply a show
They claim they did the same thing for SARS in 2003, building the Xiaotangshan Hospital (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/02/china.sars) in 8 days

I made sure to find an article from that time, since most articles about this new one refer to it, but I haven't come across any pictures of the completed hospital.

The only picture I've found dated between 2004 and 2019 after an admittedly quick google, is this one (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zhanglijie/3951121718) which is not exactly inspiring, but if you look at the rest of the pictures, it looks like it was in use and then abandoned.

I've also seen tweets of alleged prebuilt walls being shipped into Wuhan.

I don't know how useful the hospital will be, but I don't think it's just for show

[Mikoyan]

https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/24/coronavirus-infections-no-symptoms-lancet-studies/

[twitchyzero]

reposting rumours aren't helping...please take most of the crap off youtube/twitter with skepticism

i think you'd be surprised at how efficient the Chinese are if the gov't wants to build infrastructure....city trams, dams can be built rapidly

i believe given the scale of the situation it's being handled pretty well, good to know they've learned from sars

[snowball]

The numbers are too tidy. Expecting another "15" deaths tomorrow and ~500 official infections tomorrow. If it keeps going at this "rate" no way are the numbers even close to the reality.

[SkinnyPupp]

reposting rumours aren't helping...please take most of the crap off youtube/twitter with skepticism

i think you'd be surprised at how efficient the Chinese are if the gov't wants to build infrastructure....city trams, dams can be built rapidly

i believe given the scale of the situation it's being handled pretty well, good to know they've learned from sars
Unfortunately if the reproduction number is really 3.8 or around there, they acted way too late to contain it. Instead of trying to hide it and putting people who spoke about it in jail, they needed to do this stuff immediately.

They didn't really learn from SARS at all, they tried to do the same thing. Problem this time is, this virus is even worse than SARS, so they couldn't hide it for as long.

What they're doing now may prevent apocalyptic catastrophe, but it's still going to be very bad.

SARS killed 800 people and shaved 2% off China's economy. We could be in the thousands already.

[Badhobz]

world war z incoming.

[StylinRed]

Didn't Carrie lam rate this a 3rd degree emergency or something (max severity) and every shop, pharmacy, corner store, 7-11 has a bazillion boxes of masks for sale, just bought a case for like 100hkd

[BIC_BAWS]

This isn't reposting a rumor. This is a plea for help.

https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA

At around 7 mins, he admits that it's a pretty shit and poorly run country. He and his friends aren't dumb or brainwashed (re: HK thread), but what can they do? They're human against tanks (guess that analogy is re: Tianamen?)



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[HonestTea]

Didn't Carrie lam rate this a 3rd degree emergency or something (max severity) and every shop, pharmacy, corner store, 7-11 has a bazillion boxes of masks for sale, just bought a case for like 100hkd

Surprised people aren't buying them and shipping them back to China

[6793026]

The hospitals are not fake that were built for SARS. They were temp. and of course, when SARS was all said and done, no one wants to deal with the mess. Who would want the SARS left over infrastructure right.

It was built for quarantine, infections and isolation control. Ventilation bare minimum was with air con and bare basics. So I doubt it would have full use afterwards.

I don't understand what people want Carrie Lam to do. She is a mofo puppet. You think she has the ability to just say "fuck u wuhan, we are going to block off SZ's border and bar all flights into HK". Now, if US & Germany and 5 other countries are banning all flights (with the blessing of World Health Org.). THEN we got something to worry about. I cannot see HK being the first city to ban anyone from China.

[SkinnyPupp]

Bro she already blocked Wuhan. People want it to be more comprehensive, since the disease is already spreading all over China

Also of course it's political, with her continuing to pursue the mask ban in times like these (BTW it is now compulsory to wear masks in public in Guangdong) and other significantly idiotic bullshit.

You and I know she's a puppet, but being a puppet also makes her THE target for any backlash against china. After all, it's not like they can vote someone else in.

Times like these perfectly show how bad things are here, and why HKers have been fighting since June.

[StylinRed]

First confirmed case for Canada, in Toronto

[SkinnyPupp]

Quoting this again:
U also forgot about the Chinese factor, like they give a fuck
Taiwan fines coronavirus patient $10000 for 'hiding' illness (https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Virus-outbreak/Taiwan-fines-coronavirus-patient-10-000-for-hiding-illness)

Man fails to disclose symptoms then visits nightclub after returning from Wuhan

Self reporting is not enough. Another couple in HK tried to escape a hospital as they attempted to quarantine them.

Borders need to be closed now. Just for a couple weeks. HK first, maybe other countries can consider it later.

[StylinRed]

HK should be the first to close borders, if any place were to, since HK is basically the front lines, but I doubt they'd block all travel, no way in hell

Everyone's wearing a mask here, so I feel safe walking around without one since everyone's covered :lol

[SkinnyPupp]

HK should be the first to close borders, if any place were to, since HK is basically the front lines, but I doubt they'd block all travel, no way in hell

Everyone's wearing a mask here, so I feel safe walking around without one since everyone's covered :lol
Exactly! Everyone else wears a mask, so we don't have to Kappa

Probably saw about 95% people wearing masks at malls today.

Actually hand sanitizer would be way more important than masks, but that's sold out everywhere I looked.

[StylinRed]

Yeah same here, even the malls sanitizer dispensers for the public are empty -_-

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/alvinllum/status/1221371274150236160

Macau SAR to kick out everyone from Hubei out of the city, or arrest them and put them in quarantine.

Just to show how seriously things SHOULD and COULD be taken in Hong Kong.

[StylinRed]

And stories about the virus spreading before the carrier even shows symptoms aren't going to help ease the panic

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51254523

[SkinnyPupp]

Chinese official count of infected is up to 1975 (up 600 from yesterday). Actual number possibly 40K


https://twitter.com/Rover829/status/1221431662732439553

Number will go up 33% by tomorrow.

We'll never be sure if the real number will come out. (to the idiot who failed me, the source is Lancaster University (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1). The paper hasn't been peer reviewed yet, but it's not a "rumor"). Anyone with a functioning brain will know that the actual number is nothing like the reported number, based on the actions being taken.

HK, with 6 cases, is looking for somewhere to quarantine future patients. In other words, they expect hundreds or thousands of people to be diagnosed in the next couple weeks.

They were going to use a newly built public housing estate, but the people of Fanling didn't take kindly to it, and protested tonight, lighting the lobby of the building on fire. Government then canceled plans to use that building.

[buhdeh]

https://twitter.com/williamyang120/status/1221459546293428225

Good job containing the city.

[StylinRed]

lmao how tf did thst happen :lol

[buhdeh]

lmao how tf did thst happen :lol

China. Hell, There are people lying to evade checks at airports (France) and flying knowingly with symptoms. Wouldn’t expect less.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/alvinllum/status/1221441489672163329

HK blocking anyone who has been to Hubei province in the last 2 weeks from entering

Yeah there are 5 million Wuhan people floating around China and the world, spreading it all over the place. Chinese govt trying to get them to turn themselves in to be quarantined properly. I'm sure a lot of them started off just doing their normal CNY travel, so most will be within Hubei province.

This literally couldn't have happened at a worse time. (Of course, it really happened a month ago, and even more of this could have been avoided)

[eclipseman]

John Hopkins University has created a tracking map for the virus:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[twitchyzero]

We'll never be sure if the real number will come out. (to the idiot who failed me, the source is Lancaster University (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1). The paper hasn't been peer reviewed yet, but it's not a "rumor"). Anyone with a functioning brain will know that the actual number is nothing like the reported number, based on the actions being taken.

that's a transmission model aka forecast, from pundits on the other side of the world using publicly available data

unless some top health official from China blows the whistle we'll probably never know, everything else is basically hearsay at this point

i do feel bad for those on the ground

i think for managing spread/hysteria, China's already doing much better than 2003...it aint easy running 1.4B in times of crisis

[Euro7r]

With these so called "screenings" at checkpoints of land crossings/airports, it's not really even effective against this virus because symptoms don't show right away. Based on some of the news articles reads and videos I've seen, seems like they just check your body temperature with a thermometer. Shit ain't hitting until like 5-10 days later which is the scary part as you could be fine crossing the checkpoints.

[Mikoyan]

With these so called "screenings" at checkpoints of land crossings/airports, it's not really even effective against this virus because symptoms don't show right away. Based on some of the news articles reads and videos I've seen, seems like they just check your body temperature with a thermometer. Shit ain't hitting until like 5-10 days later which is the scary part as you could be fine crossing the checkpoints.

That was based on previous history of illness like Sars. There's so much we don't know about this one yet. But yeah, if its true that it's contagious while someone's asymptomatic, the next step is going to be straight up quarantines of people that have been in affected areas, or direct contact with known patients. They're going to need to figure out the incubation period quickly. When the first name or quarantines start, they're going to use 2weeks as a minimum I think, until there's better data.

[threezero]

https://twitter.com/williamyang120/status/1221459546293428225

Good job containing the city.

Mind as well call him ex-mayor at this point.

The city was hosting a nation wide meeting earlier in the month. He suppress the news thinking it will blow over.

:heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

Chinese New Year holiday has been extended until Feb 2 (http://www.bjnews.com.cn/news/2020/01/27/680027.html) for the entire country PogChamp

[SkinnyPupp]

Footage of a supermarket, allegedly in Wuhan, showing that plenty of food is available

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNLlYwTnY3E

[Mr.HappySilp]

Lot's of info on the web. Some are real and some are fake. But from what I gather from the in laws in Beijing. Pretty much all forms of entertainment place are closed IE Movie theaters, K rooms, pools, museum , malls, library, all tourist attractions. All major Chinese new year event are cancel, all tour group that's going to other countries have been cancel. Some of my wife's friend who run a travel agency said they are not allow to open any tour groups atm and they doing refund non stop. Not sure when the ban will be lifted. Some chain restaurant are close. Pretty much the in laws just stay home everyday.

Shits are hitting the fan when even malls are closed. Pretty much you can fly into China but it will be pretty hard to leave now.

EDIT: Oh a funny note other than all face mask in Van is out of stock, Some people are stocking up rubbing alcohol and disinfect wipes. Saw lot's of Chinese at Coq center Wal mart buying up rubbing alcohol, one couple even manage to buy 8 bottles of rubbing alcohol. Then they decided to buy disinfect wipes. However, the antibacterial hand wipes are sold out but they bought some wipes for your ass after you take a shit and use it. LOL not sure if they know what the purchase isn't going to help much since they don't seem to know English....... Also according to wife's parent a lot of people are returning to Beijing early (migrante workers, they work in Beijing). I am sure this will lead to the number of people getting infected in Beijing to raise up very soon.

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/wgkj4wmqw7d41.jpg

[ae101]

Guangzhou has pretty shutdown places that are crowded (like malls and nightclub, u know places like that are crowded) due to an outbreak in Guangzhou

Story goes that someone that works for the city administration (the city inspectors that inspected the streets) host his mother in law from wuhan that was trying to protection and shelter in Guangzhou

Little did they know that the mother in law was infected (she didn’t even know cuz some how she didn’t get checked), they all went to the huang pu CNY market annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd infected about around 3000 ppl

Since this guy job also requires him to run around the streets, we don’t even know how many other ppl he has hit, nor do we know if his family has been outside else where

CNY markets in Guangzhou lost money cuz government decided to close the markets at 6pm on the last day, which in tradition it’s where they slash prices and clear out inventory

No going to lie this is the first time I have ever felt scared and had to wear a mask (public places that are still open would ask u to wear a mask) and with Guangzhou being pretty empty but yet still managed to get around 3000 ppl hit, this is quite scary in a way for me

Also there have been pictures and videos that surfaced online where some ppl are reselling used masks, which is a little crazy right now

[SkinnyPupp]

If you're in GZ gtfo of there before other countries ban you from entering!

I am a bit ashamed to admit, I just saw someone wearing one of those ugly BALENCIOGAGA mainlander uniforms, and I held my breath a bit. It's shitty I know, but a gut reaction considering there is a higher chance - however much that may be - that he or someone he knows was in Hubei in the last month :heckno:

[6793026]

https://twitter.com/williamyang120/status/1221459546293428225

Good job containing the city.

lmao how tf did thst happen :lol

I don't blame China or the police / army. If this every happened in Canada or US, GOOD FOOKING luck trying to contain Coquitlam, Maple Ridge.. pick any US city... you'll be seeing some hill billy trying to off road, 4X4, ATV their way and driving thru farm lands and back roads trying to escape...

Hell, if this was Richmond I bet you'll have people trying to set sail to Blaine.....

[StylinRed]

Yeah but for that many ppl to have been able to leave it sounds like public transportation Wasn't shutdown like they claim

[SkinnyPupp]

I think most of them were gone for CNY travels before any ban took effect

If you're locking down a city of 11 million, it's not going to happen all at once! What needed to happen was trying to keep it under control while there were 10's not thousands of people infected with this new virus. But nope, got to save face instead. That is literally the only thing that matters. Until it doesn't.

[ae101]

Seems like if u don’t wear a mask u can’t on public transit and they call the police if u don’t cooperate

[SkinnyPupp]

that's a transmission model aka forecast, from pundits on the other side of the world using publicly available data

unless some top health official from China blows the whistle we'll probably never know, everything else is basically hearsay at this point

i do feel bad for those on the ground

i think for managing spread/hysteria, China's already doing much better than 2003...it aint easy running 1.4B in times of crisis
Right, the goal is to figure out how many people are actually sick. They used that model, saying China reported about 5%. I would believe that number in a second, and in fact it is possible a huge underestimate if anything.

More estimates coming in, HKU head Gabriel Leung (who got egg on his face earlier for dumb comments) spoke about it today
https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1221691687212208128

He says 25,000 cases in Wuhan, with a possible up to 43,000

Locking down Wuhan isn't going to work anymore

Each major city in China is going to have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of very sick people in the next few months.

Blocking people from Wuhan isn't nearly enough. The whole point of "two systems" is so HK can protect itself from this sort of thing. There is literally no argument against it, other than "losing face"

This may push the protests straight into chaotic riot territory

[320icar]

I am a bit ashamed to admit, I just saw someone wearing one of those ugly BALENCIOGAGA mainlander uniforms, and I held my breath a bit. It's shitty I know, but a gut reaction considering there is a higher chance - however much that may be - that he or someone he knows was in Hubei in the last month :heckno:

No idea what balenciaga and had to google it. Is it this?

I’d hold my breathe too, but just so I don’t get tainted with PISS POOR FASHION SENSE

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6b/28/56/6b2856ea714869fafc2be3c6fbddbc28.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/bb/f9/8dbbf91e54eee545c1625badfcd8d01d.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

No idea what balenciaga and had to google it. Is it this?

I’d hold my breathe too, but just so I don’t get tainted with PISS POOR FASHION SENSE

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6b/28/56/6b2856ea714869fafc2be3c6fbddbc28.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/bb/f9/8dbbf91e54eee545c1625badfcd8d01d.jpg
Yes but it's usually just plain black clothing with a huge ugly logo on it.

[StylinRed]

I've never seen pacific place mall so empty... I know it's been a minute since I was in HK, but wtf... And since when did starbucks baristas get a snobby attitude :lol

[Mr.HappySilp]

Right, the goal is to figure out how many people are actually sick. They used that model, saying China reported about 5%. I would believe that number in a second, and in fact it is possible a huge underestimate if anything.

More estimates coming in, HKU head Gabriel Leung (who got egg on his face earlier for dumb comments) spoke about it today
https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1221691687212208128

He says 25,000 cases in Wuhan, with a possible up to 43,000

Locking down Wuhan isn't going to work anymore

Each major city in China is going to have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of very sick people in the next few months.

Blocking people from Wuhan isn't nearly enough. The whole point of "two systems" is so HK can protect itself from this sort of thing. There is literally no argument against it, other than "losing face"

This may push the protests straight into chaotic riot territory

I mean when other countries US, Canada, UK aren't banning Chinese tourist HK really have no ground to outright ban all Chinese tourist unless WHG deemed is dangerous.

[Y2K_o__o]

a little off-topic but
face mask price on craigslist went 3 times more expensive
price gouging happens everywhere....

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/hab/d/vancouver-medicom-safe-mask-premier/7062346138.html

[MG1]

I’m in Bellingham right now and there’s a shitload of N95 masks at Hardware Sales. Everything from standard 3M to Moldex Organic vapor masks. Nobody seems to give a flying squirrel about masks in this part of the world. However, Harbor Freight is out of them.

I don’t care about the masks. I have a box full of the medical masks I use when I go over to visit my mother in law.

Edit: Lowe’s in Bellingham has them, too. I imagine Home Depot would, as well.

[Hehe]

I’m in Bellingham right now and there’s a shitload of N95 masks at Hardware Sales. Everything from standard 3M to Moldex Organic vapor masks. Nobody seems to give a flying squirrel about masks in this part of the world. However, Harbor Freight is out of them.

I don’t care about the masks. I have a box full of the medical masks I use when I go over to visit my mother in law.

Edit: Lowe’s in Bellingham has them, too. I imagine Home Depot would, as well.

HD is out as far as I know last week. I was grabbing a few boxes for wife as she was heading back and that's pretty much all families in China asked. But she ended up canceling the trip as the situation seemed to be deteriorating.

Mind you, I was at HD Canada before the whole thing hit the fans (01/14 to be exact, and HD in South Surrey had a surplus of these masks, got 2 boxes because in-laws were heading back for CNY and I told them better safe than sorry even though they didn't feel it was needed), and when I head back again on the 22nd, there was none left. According to the HD guy, some "asian dude" came in and cleared the shelf. Fucking scrappers. So I ended up ordering online for US store pickup as I was heading to Bellingham that night.

And I clearly remember that they had like 20+ boxes for all brands and types each. When I checked again after the news came out, they were all gone. haha

[Euro7r]

Went to London Drugs today to get some hand sanitizer for my work bag to carry around for work everyday, literally everything gone. Even the travel size packs all gone. Unbelievable....

[Y2K_o__o]

HD is out as far as I know last week. I was grabbing a few boxes for wife as she was heading back and that's pretty much all families in China asked. But she ended up canceling the trip as the situation seemed to be deteriorating.

Mind you, I was at HD Canada before the whole thing hit the fans (01/14 to be exact, and HD in South Surrey had a surplus of these masks, got 2 boxes because in-laws were heading back for CNY and I told them better safe than sorry even though they didn't feel it was needed), and when I head back again on the 22nd, there was none left. According to the HD guy, some "asian dude" came in and cleared the shelf. Fucking scrappers. So I ended up ordering online for US store pickup as I was heading to Bellingham that night.

And I clearly remember that they had like 20+ boxes for all brands and types each. When I checked again after the news came out, they were all gone. haha

you mean this?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Went to London Drugs today to get some hand sanitizer for my work bag to carry around for work everyday, literally everything gone. Even the travel size packs all gone. Unbelievable....

Order on London drugs website

[SkinnyPupp]

Macau has deported 150 people from Hubei (https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1505136-20200127.htm), and are trying to find the remaining 500 who haven't left yet, who they will arrest into quarantine.

Taiwan has banned all Mainland tourists (https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/life/breakingnews/3050606), regardless of visa status

[threezero]

Chinese Media been circulated news about an individual with confirm Coronavirus in Burnaby.

Apparently they self reported having symptoms. Went to VGH for diagnosis but was send home when VGH refuse to do any testing. This person had family in china that has been confirmed with the virus.

They send themselves back to Shanghai on Jan 25th. Shanghai hospital confirmed that they were indeed infected.

This was reported by a local MP.

Haven't notice this being pick up by English Media yet. Officially this does not count as a confirmed case. The individual has identify all the places he has been to in Richmond/Burnaby.

Dunno what to say...

[SkinnyPupp]

Chinese Media been circulated news about an individual with confirm Coronavirus in Burnaby.

Apparently they self reported having symptoms. Went to VGH for diagnosis but was send home when VGH refuse to do any testing. This person had family in china that has been confirmed with the virus.

They send themselves back to Shanghai on Jan 25th. Shanghai hospital confirmed that they were indeed infected.

This was reported by a local MP.

Haven't notice this being pick up by English Media yet. Officially this does not count as a confirmed case. The individual has identify all the places he has been to in Richmond/Burnaby.

Dunno what to say...
People outside China/Asia are NOT taking this seriously enough. Every time I see it on reddit people are like "meh it's just like a bad cold we're fine"

Even people here were trying to dismiss it. Hell we had someone say SARS wasn't a big deal :seriously:

I wonder if people purposefully stop themselves from having perspective of others in bad situations, in order to just not have to worry about anything. I wonder if that's a result of a safe, peaceful life

[threezero]

People outside China/Asia are NOT taking this seriously enough. Every time I see it on reddit people are like "meh it's just like a bad cold we're fine"

I don't want to bring up the race card. But just like SARS. It seems like nobody will care until someone of non-asian ethnicity get infected.

By that time it is already too late

[Manic!]

I don't want to bring up the race card. But just like SARS. It seems like nobody will care until someone of non-asian ethnicity get infected.

By that time it is already too late

Just like AIDS. no one cared at first because it was only being spread amongst homosexuals.

[SkinnyPupp]

Just like AIDS. no one cared at first because it was only being spread amongst homosexuals.
In men It's still like 90% homosexuals when you take out drug use (which is like 3%)

If anything, people were more afraid of it than they needed to be. If you weren't gay or a drug user, there was a much lower chance of getting it.

(not saying that's a bad thing at all btw)

[Alpine]

Its already here, or it will be here soon enough. Just do what you can to limit your own risk to it.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Chinese Media been circulated news about an individual with confirm Coronavirus in Burnaby.

Apparently they self reported having symptoms. Went to VGH for diagnosis but was send home when VGH refuse to do any testing. This person had family in china that has been confirmed with the virus.

They send themselves back to Shanghai on Jan 25th. Shanghai hospital confirmed that they were indeed infected.

This was reported by a local MP.

Haven't notice this being pick up by English Media yet. Officially this does not count as a confirmed case. The individual has identify all the places he has been to in Richmond/Burnaby.

Dunno what to say...

This was circling on a bunch of whatsapp groups im in and alot of people are choosing not to believe it

https://www.revscene.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31076&stc=1&d=1580181247

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah this falls into "totally unconfirmed rumor" territory, don't pay too much mind to it

[ilovebacon]

This was circling on a bunch of whatsapp groups im in and alot of people are choosing not to believe it

https://www.revscene.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31076&stc=1&d=1580181247

I got the same message today but in chinese...

[spoon.ek9]

Chinese Media been circulated news about an individual with confirm Coronavirus in Burnaby.

Apparently they self reported having symptoms. Went to VGH for diagnosis but was send home when VGH refuse to do any testing. This person had family in china that has been confirmed with the virus.

They send themselves back to Shanghai on Jan 25th. Shanghai hospital confirmed that they were indeed infected.

This was reported by a local MP.

Haven't notice this being pick up by English Media yet. Officially this does not count as a confirmed case. The individual has identify all the places he has been to in Richmond/Burnaby.

Dunno what to say...

This is the part of the story I have trouble believing. Local health authorities in conjunction with the hospitals they oversee, are all on high alert.

[twitchyzero]

Yeah this falls into "totally unconfirmed rumor" territory, don't pay too much mind to it

this is the infected individual doing due dillgence: diagnosis confirmed and informing the public where she's been

how's that the same thing as pulling a wildly speculated number of infected cases?

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/3fi9yuc8lbd41.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

this is the infected individual doing due dillgence: diagnosis confirmed and informing the public where she's been

how's that the same thing as pulling a wildly speculated number of infected cases?
No, it's a forward going around whatsapp about "a Burnaby resident"

I will say that it's plausible - not that they "refused" to test for it, but that they got a false negative. So far most tests have shown to be negative and then positive. Also they have found that a throat swab often isn't enough, as the infection occurs deep in the respiratory tract.

So it's plausible, but still, don't pay too much attention to it until actually confirmed.

It's funny because just a few pages ago you went after me for "misinformation" while I posted preliminary modeling from epidemiologists in UK (later models in HKU showed similar results).

So like... what? That's not even taking into account your making jokes about killing Chinese babies. .... What are you even doing? :seriously:

[SkinnyPupp]

Press conference taking place. I'm sure there will be a writeup soon, but here are some notes:

They're going to suspend individual tourist visas for mainland people in 49 cities (says they need approval from beijing first). These tourists account for about 50% of mainland tourists to Hong Kong.

They are shutting down 6 border points, including the high speed rail and all ferries

canceling half of all flights from china

more temperature checks at ports

And they are canceling the waived fees for non residents (to take away incentive for people to come for free treatment)

ALSO today, Leisure Services have closed all public facilities. That includes sports centers, pools, beaches, gyms, museums, libraries. Also government workers can work from home if possible

[ilovebacon]

Trump is offering a hand to China, this is good news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k09uyQBfCFA

[SiRV]

For comparison - Flu virus between October 2019-January 2020

15-21 million infections world wide
140,000-250,000 hospitalizations
8200-20,000 deaths

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

[68style]

^ apples and oranges man

Might as well compare gun related deaths too, that’s how similar it is

[SiRV]

Instead of making the dumbest comparison possible (? Gun deaths?? LOL) How are the viruses so different?

[winson604]

I don't want to downplay and say meh the virus is nothing but to me whether there are any confirmed cases here locally or not doesn't really change anything. I'm still going to practice good hygiene, wash my hands etc. It isn't going to make me leave the house any less or if I do walk around in a hazmat suit.

[yray]

Instead of making the dumbest comparison possible (? Gun deaths?? LOL) How are the viruses so different?

flu is like a slow kill that but also allows you to fight it off

WARS is like a fast kill and really depends on your body condition if you live or die

[6793026]

Yeah this falls into "totally unconfirmed rumor" territory, don't pay too much mind to it



I totally agree. Think of it this way, if someone posted all over social media saying I'm infected I would be PISSED OFF and taking legal action. Again, in this case, no names were mentioned, but if there were.... holy F...

[6793026]

^ apples and oranges man

Might as well compare gun related deaths too, that’s how similar it is

You are right, it is apples to oranges (to a sense)

https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/coronavirusinfo.png?w=1024&h=1452

[StylinRed]

Wow MERS was deadlier than SARS I'm shocked

[StylinRed]

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/01/28/first-case-of-wuhan-coronavirus-confirmed-in-b-c/

First case in Vancouver

[Berzerker]

Meme going around shows the lab where ground zero is, having the Umbrella logo. In Blue.

I have no idea if it's accurate I just found it amusing.

If you put rats in an environment, with unlimited food, an interesting thing happens. They will breed and reproduce like normal. Their population will explode. Then, suddenly, a mysterious illness will come through and kill the large majority of them. Population will reset and begin again. This will happen over and over.

Humans also go through this. Bubonic Plague, Ebola, Aids, are all (in my non scientific opinion) natures way of trying to "cure" over population of humans. We have found ways to fight off these attempts at natures population control. Ever notice how all the terrible plagues tend to start in the most over populated parts of the planet?

Berz out.

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/01/28/first-case-of-wuhan-coronavirus-confirmed-in-b-c/

First case in Vancouver


https://media.makeameme.org/created/so-it-begins-5b8182.jpg

[MG1]

Trump is offering a hand to China, this is good news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k09uyQBfCFA

Typical American reaction. Throughout history, it’s always been about how something affects their country. If it profits them, they’re in like a dirty shirt. If it looks like the problem might reach their shores, they are in. Why did they enter WWII on the European front? Because they realized, if the allied forces fell, they’d be next with nobody left to help them. They helped Japan rebuild, because there was a greater threat called the Commies. They needed bases from which to launch attacks. Oil and other resources. If that ain’t it, arms dealing. There’s always an ulterior motive. Look like you’re being kind and humane is just an added bonus.

[shabusen]

Meng Wanzhou's neighbour? :lol

[Bouncing Bettys]

Interesting that when asked where this new case is from, all they will say is that he is from the Vancouver Coastal Health Region.

[blkgsr]

why are they still allowing flights to leave this fucking city....


keep your ass there and stop spreading it around the world

[fliptuner]

I don't want to downplay and say meh the virus is nothing but to me whether there are any confirmed cases here locally or not doesn't really change anything. I'm still going to practice good hygiene, wash my hands etc. It isn't going to make me leave the house any less or if I do walk around in a hazmat suit.

Same here and I go into people's homes all day.

[ImportPsycho]

Interesting that when asked where this new case is from, all they will say is that he is from the Vancouver Coastal Health Region.


VCH serves

Vancouver
Richmond
North Shore
Coast-Garibaldi

A man in his 40s returned from Wuhan City, China last week, where he travels regularly for work.

I think we know where :lol

[hchang]

What goes well with coronavirus?

Lyme disease

.............I'll show myself out.

[sonick]

https://i.imgur.com/R22y3Yq_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[pastarocket]

Talk about paranoia. :lawl:

Pics of a few mainlanders wearing plastic bottle cut outs to protect themselves at YVR.

That girl standing behind one of those bottle heads is literally laughing hystericallly.

Pics were taken at YVR today.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200128/3c1c9ab004fe296e14d4d11cc64a68db.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200128/914e1944d462fc4f5f4bcea77b6d4938.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[GS8]

keep your ass there and stop spreading it around the world

I can see this on an AIDS prevention poster Kappa

[Hondaracer]

I was going to make a post about how I’ve literally never seen a single other race than (presumably) Chinese people wearing The masks Until I saw a big white guy last night at Rogers arena wearing one lol..

[shabusen]

.

[buhdeh]

Is that first picture with the bottle head actually Vancouver?

[Doubl3_H]

I thought about wearing a mask and going into work just as a joke, since I am the only Chinese guy in the office. Now Imma up the game and put a bottle on as well.

[Lancerion]

Is that first picture with the bottle head actually Vancouver?

Yup...YVR

Edited: Never mind, the first picture looks like a train from somewhere else.

[twitchyzero]

So like... what? That's not even taking into account your making jokes about killing Chinese babies. .... What are you even doing? :seriously:
got me mixed up with somebody else

[MG1]

Great story for a movie........

China is secretly working on a viralogical weapon. Incompetent Chinese scientists inadvertently create a virus that mutates at an alarming rate. The virus escapes via a bat that happens to find its way into the labs. The biologists were going to work on a antidote, but nobody knew how to go about creating one. Meanwhile, the bat goes back to the Bat Cave and spreads the disease to the rest of the bat population. Townspeople love their bat soup. The Chinese get their wish. World dominance. But, the world is now void of all life. The virus mutated to the point all biological life on the planet is wiped out, except cockroaches.

BTW, isn't there some government biological weapons facility near ground zero? Government hiding it from everybody and spreading news stories about bats and cobras and who knows what else.......... good coverup.

[teggy604]

I thought about wearing a mask and going into work just as a joke, since I am the only Chinese guy in the office. Now Imma up the game and put a bottle on as well.

I guess if I put on SCBA gear and walk into T&T to buy groceries, I would blend in with ppl with basic mask, to respirator mask, to bottle heads. Lol

[Harvey Specter]

For the life of me I don't understand why people eat snakes, bats and other animals that carry disease. What is the obsession with eating every type of meat in China? This won't be last outbreak if they don't regulate what meat is OK for consumption.

[DaJo]

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-29/wuhan-coronavirus-created-in-australian-lab-outside-of-china/11906390?pfmredir=sm

"The Doherty Institute is the second lab in the world to copy the disease. A lab in China was the first, but did not share its discovery with the WHO."

Now with all this chaos going on, why would one keep that discovery away from the world?... Kinda makes you wonder.

[320icar]

For the life of me I don't understand why people eat snakes, bats and other animals that carry disease. What is the obsession with eating every type of meat in China? This won't be last outbreak if they don't regulate what meat is OK for consumption.

Bushmeat is common in every 3rd world country (yes I still classify parts of China as 3rd world)

[BIC_BAWS]

Talk about paranoia. :lawl:

Pics of a few mainlanders wearing plastic bottle cut outs to protect themselves at YVR.

That girl standing behind one of those bottle heads is literally laughing hystericallly.

Pics were taken at YVR today.

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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCan't see shabusen's pic on Tapatalk so I'll assume it hasn't been posted.

This bottle head (same family)'s picture was taken in HK (I think)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200129/7d9bae8ce97c694cb6df5ff051d8d1a2.jpg

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[ilovebacon]

For the life of me I don't understand why people eat snakes, bats and other animals that carry disease. What is the obsession with eating every type of meat in China? This won't be last outbreak if they don't regulate what meat is OK for consumption.

Because of that, I dislike mainlanders... and I'm Chinese...

[SkinnyPupp]

For the life of me I don't understand why people eat snakes, bats and other animals that carry disease. What is the obsession with eating every type of meat in China? This won't be last outbreak if they don't regulate what meat is OK for consumption.
Part of it is poverty, and the other part is pure novelty. I'm sympathetic to the former, and with law changes moving forward, we'll see a lot less of the latter.

[BIC_BAWS]

Part of it is poverty, and the other part is pure novelty. I'm sympathetic to the former, and with law changes moving forward, we'll see a lot less of the latter.All the foods not commonly eaten, wasn't it always poverty? But then you got rich people eating it now, I guess for novelty now?

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[Bouncing Bettys]

For the life of me I don't understand why people eat snakes, bats and other animals that carry disease. What is the obsession with eating every type of meat in China? This won't be last outbreak if they don't regulate what meat is OK for consumption.
If you listen to CBC lately, roadkill and bugs will soon on the menu for the plebs.

[SkinnyPupp]

All the foods not commonly eaten, wasn't it always poverty? But then you got rich people eating it now, I guess for novelty now?

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Not necessarily rich people, but middle class (which as we all know is a huge segment of the population). You can tell by the way it's promoted, that it's not really a thing done out of necessity, but out of novelty. Maybe not in the heart of a wet market, but restaurants will have signs with lists of all these whacky creatures you can eat, with pictures and everything.

Some place was seen serving Koala Bear meat... So obviously it's pure novelty in that case (and absolutely despicable considering the species is functionally extinct... Fucking disgusting)

[6793026]

China is secretly working on a viralogical weapon. Incompetent Chinese scientists inadvertently create a virus that mutates at an alarming rate. The virus escapes via a bat that happens to find its way into the labs. The biologists were going to work on a antidote, but nobody knew how to go about creating one. Meanwhile, the bat goes back to the Bat Cave and spreads the disease to the rest of the bat population. Townspeople love their bat soup. The Chinese get their wish. World dominance. But, the world is now void of all life. The virus mutated to the point all biological life on the planet is wiped out, except cockroaches.

BTW, isn't there some government biological weapons facility near ground zero? Government hiding it from everybody and spreading news stories about bats and cobras and who knows what else.......... good coverup.
There's so much assumptions here i can't even comprehend.

China is secretly working on a viralogical weapon. This I call BS.
Incompetent Chinese scientists? I don't know how you can tell one is incompetent versus competent. sureeee... I can give you this.
Virus being tested with bats I can see (no need to say virus escapes to a bat), heck, cause they can need to test it on something; rats, rabbits, snakes... sure...
How the F does a bat happen to FLY back into the bat cave to me is like WHATTTTT hahahahah. I can't even see how a bird can even escape multiple lab doors and esp when you need quarantine doors on viralogical experiments.
The bat shit roomers is so so so not true. Mainland china does NOT see bats as a delicacy (despite the pics of it being in a soup).

Again, not shitting on you but just dangggg that's some great story telling.


As to the arguments on poor people eating bats is beyond me. First of all, I know FIRST hand cause I've had dogs, cats, 果子狸 (it's actually really really good, due to their diet, their meat has a really fruity flavoretc. The ONLY one which I have NOT are the 穿山甲 chinese pangolin. Bats are NOT priority for food. Is it available, sure. Do people treat it like specialty, hell no.
Poor people can eat dogs, cats, and various animals, saying poor people readily eats bats are so so not true.

[SkinnyPupp]

Just for the fuck of it, I searched for info on the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory (http://lssf.cas.cn/en/facilities-view.jsp?id=ff8080814ff56599014ff59e677e003d), a virology research centre opened in Wuhan 2017. One of the first things that came up with the nutjobs was that they were testing biological weapons, accidentally released it on their own population...

It's hilarious going through all the sites that write about this. All these shitty fake news sites, with names like CCN to look like CNN, or Washington Times, to confuse people with New York Times and Washington Post... My browser history now looks like CiC's LUL

HOWEVER, consider that China recently declined help from the US CDC... There's no legitimate reason for them to do so if the goal is to prevent a global pandemic, especially since people are losing trust in the WHO, who have yet to declare it an emergency (and also doesn't allow Taiwan to have any say, despite them having several cases)

Oh and by the way, there's a job listing on that site to study coronavirus in bats

:considered:

[SkinnyPupp]

British Airways suspends all flights to and from China (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51292590)

HK medical workers union, which formed LAST MONTH has 15,000 members, and are ready to strike if the border isn't closed properly. The partial closing only prevents about 8% incoming traffic apparently. Only the most low traffic ports were closed.

[SkinnyPupp]

Australia and NZ are evacuating their nationals from Wuhan (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/29/australian-coronavirus-evacuees-to-be-quarantined-on-christmas-island), and will quarantine them in a detention centre on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere for 2 weeks LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

This is pretty much what it's like at supermarkets throughout the city. The timing is fucked, because imports have been halted during CNY, and now people are trying to make sure they have enough food in case they need to stay home for a long time

https://twitter.com/vickywong710/status/1222464917665509378

[StylinRed]

I was in a Yata today, full of food as always :P

The pharmacies are getting overridden with ppl buying masks n antiseptic though, place I got my masks the other day is sold out, and this one pharmacy with stock had a horde of ppl

[Hondaracer]

No food available, better eat more bats

[MG1]

There's so much assumptions here i can't even comprehend.

China is secretly working on a viralogical weapon. This I call BS.
Incompetent Chinese scientists? I don't know how you can tell one is incompetent versus competent. sureeee... I can give you this.
Virus being tested with bats I can see (no need to say virus escapes to a bat), heck, cause they can need to test it on something; rats, rabbits, snakes... sure...
How the F does a bat happen to FLY back into the bat cave to me is like WHATTTTT hahahahah. I can't even see how a bird can even escape multiple lab doors and esp when you need quarantine doors on viralogical experiments.
The bat shit roomers is so so so not true. Mainland china does NOT see bats as a delicacy (despite the pics of it being in a soup).

Again, not shitting on you but just dangggg that's some great story telling.


As to the arguments on poor people eating bats is beyond me. First of all, I know FIRST hand cause I've had dogs, cats, 果子狸 (it's actually really really good, due to their diet, their meat has a really fruity flavoretc. The ONLY one which I have NOT are the 穿山甲 chinese pangolin. Bats are NOT priority for food. Is it available, sure. Do people treat it like specialty, hell no.
Poor people can eat dogs, cats, and various animals, saying poor people readily eats bats are so so not true.

Buddy, I started off by saying it would be a good story for a movie. I don't do social media and had no idea about a biological lab. Afterwards, I heard someone mention about a lab actually being in the area. I added that to my post, so..............

god bless.

[Ferra]

Part of it is poverty, and the other part is pure novelty. I'm sympathetic to the former, and with law changes moving forward, we'll see a lot less of the latter.
50+ years ago it was poverty
Now it is 100% novelty, those weird ass meat cost a lot more than chicken and pork

[shabusen]

WTF?

[ImportPsycho]

WTF?

someone photoshopped the original

https://www.who.int/images/default-source/health-topics/coronavirus/social-media-squares/1overall.tmb-479v.png?sfvrsn=a48f6595_2

[ImportPsycho]

Any idea why the guy in Vancouver/Richmond gets to stay home, instead of hospital?
Is he handcuffed to his bed? Does he get to go out freely?

[dachinesedude]

No food available, better eat more bats

https://www.facebook.com/alexchua.alexchua.33/videos/641225493289740/UzpfSTEwMDAwNTc4MzE0MjM5OToxMzM3MzkzOTM2NDYzMzY1/

:heckno:

[SSM_DC5]

Any idea why the guy in Vancouver/Richmond gets to stay home, instead of hospital?
Is he handcuffed to his bed? Does he get to go out freely?

Informed refusal of hospitalization is a possibility as mentioned in this document from WHO https://www.who.int/publications-detail/advice-on-the-use-of-masks-the-community-during-home-care-and-in-health-care-settings-in-the-context-of-the-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)-outbreak