[MarkyMark]

Surrey needs to crack down on that crazy Christian problem right away.

[Obsideon]

So who's ready for Puff-Puff-PASS THE RONA?

[westopher]

Lol, I had no idea what time of year it was even until you mentioned that. I was actually just saying to my wife today I'm thinking of taking up doing marijuanas again.

[68style]

I know this isn’t the weed thread but... I’ve never even tried it. Not even once.

I had a good reason before, 14 years in a workplace that wouldn’t have accepted it... but I don’t have much reason now other than just a lack of interest which might just be ignorance haha

[SkinnyPupp]

Weed is fun and relatively harmless

If you're a nostalgic type of person you'll love it. The visualization aspect is my favourite thing about weed... Memories are in your eyes instead of your mind, if that makes any sense.

If you're really high strung you might not like it though, it tends to bring up anxiety issues

[westopher]

I know this isn’t the weed thread but... I’ve never even tried it. Not even once.

I had a good reason before, 14 years in a workplace that wouldn’t have accepted it... but I don’t have much reason now other than just a lack of interest which might just be ignorance haha
I used to smoke a lot. Since I had quit, I became much more motivated. The reason I quit, is because I was ok with being bored.
Since all this has started, the lack of socialization has made me bored, and I fucking hate it. It's the ultimate source of stress. I figured maybe I need to be ok with being bored again.

[320icar]

I used to smoke a lot. Since I had quit, I became much more motivated. The reason I quit, is because I was ok with being bored.
Since all this has started, the lack of socialization has made me bored, and I fucking hate it. It's the ultimate source of stress. I figured maybe I need to be ok with being bored again.

Come for dog walks with me in the morning. Much better than sitting around drinking hollandaise

[quasi]

So who's ready for Puff-Puff-PASS THE RONA?

Started my latest batch of plants beginning of the month.

[Hondaracer]

Started my latest batch of plants beginning of the month.

I’m on COVID chronic round 2 :fullofwin:

https://i.imgur.com/zbg8KeQ.jpg

[underscore]

I know this isn’t the weed thread but... I’ve never even tried it. Not even once.

I had a good reason before, 14 years in a workplace that wouldn’t have accepted it... but I don’t have much reason now other than just a lack of interest which might just be ignorance haha

Similar boat, it just never came up (am I really that lame? fuck) til I had a really job with potential drug testing and it didn't seem worth risking it. The smell of some strains (?) can be pretty rank to me too so I never had much interest.

But I haven't been able to drink for like 5 years, I haven't smoked anything for a dozen and a cup of tea in the morning isn't exactly cutting it with my stress level these days so I'm getting pretty tempted to try just about anything.

I definitely have anxiety issues and fuck knows what else though so maybe I should just try a second cup of tea in the morning lol.

[Mr.Money]

is that low rider strain? :badpokerface:.




anxiety issues?, Yes if you go overboard and do too much, while "Fighting it".... you're gonna go in fight mode while being on edge.



i'd say take one puff and stay there to see how you will react, have some activities you like to do with music playing or video games, movies while in the mix.


don't just sit there and think how much shit can go wrong cause "i'm too high" or someone judging you on the spot "what the fuck are you high for?" lol .

[twitchyzero]

bill blair is a smrt guy

completely neglects an isolated community 20km from the east coast with majority vaccinated

St-Pierre wants to join Atlantic Bubble
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.5981864/these-french-islands-off-newfoundland-want-to-join-the-atlantic-bubble-1.5981865

[Manic!]

bill blair is a smrt guy

completely neglects an isolated community 20km from the east coast with majority vaccinated

St-Pierre wants to join Atlantic Bubble
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.5981864/these-french-islands-off-newfoundland-want-to-join-the-atlantic-bubble-1.5981865

They should just join Canada.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/tripperhead/status/1383799602441195534

Another thing for Canada to take note of maybe? Like 90% of the new cases here are being caught in the 3 week quarantine camp of incoming travelers, including like 24 of them on one single flight from India monkaS

Normally they ban specific routes, but now doing a full ban of 3 countries sending in a lot of people infected with variants.

Seal the borders and deal with it internally after that!

[mikemhg]

Lol, I had no idea what time of year it was even until you mentioned that. I was actually just saying to my wife today I'm thinking of taking up doing marijuanas again.

"I'm thinking of taking up doing marijuanas again"

Something funny about the way you said that :lol

[westopher]

Lol that was the joke. I wanted to say it as Narc like as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asuPahpB1wc

[whitev70r]

I know ... very rare ... but this is the demographic that is supposedly the most safe for the AZ vaccine .. namely male >55, this guy is 60. Before anyone goes off about risk of blood clot vs. getting Coronavirus .. that's not the true A or B. comparison or option. It is take the AZ now or wait for 2 weeks for your age group to get Pfizer or Moderna. Most people over 55 can wait.


Alberta case of blood clot from AZ:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/astrazeneca-first-blood-clot-alberta-1.5991997

The case was identified in a man in his 60s after receiving the vaccine, according to a statement released by Alberta's chief medical officer of health on Saturday.

"While this case is unfortunate, it does not change the risk assessment that I have previously communicated to Albertans," Dr. Deena Hinshaw said during a teleconference.

[JDMDreams]

I saw them busy giving vis yesterday, l don't see anyone complain about getting tickets for partying

https://globalnews.ca/news/7767578/vancouver-english-bay-party-covid/amp/

[Hondaracer]

Woman goes to the beach, complains people are at the beach..

Unless they put a stay at home order in place you’re never gonna keep people away from parks and beaches period.

Honestly how many people are actually getting the message? I watch the morning news everyday, listen to the radio all day long. If you don’t pay attention to the specific press conferences etc. The messaging probably doesn’t even reach a lot of people

[Manic!]

Ford now asking other countries for vaccines. What a joke the guy is. https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/ford-government-asking-foreign-diplomats-if-their-countries-can-send-ontario-covid-19-vaccines-1.5392263

The Washington Post saying ford should resign.
https://archive.fo/7Qpdn

[StylinRed]

I saw them busy giving vis yesterday, l don't see anyone complain about getting tickets for partying

https://globalnews.ca/news/7767578/vancouver-english-bay-party-covid/amp/

The news1130 quote

"Vancouver police did respond to a report of a party at English Bay, issued no tickets

Kennedy Stewart says police have 'better things to do' than enforce COVID-19-related orders, urges people to behave "

Nice...

[CharlesInCharge]

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche
https://i.imgur.com/Bw76axS.jpg
This guy worked in one of Bill Gates vaccine programs... I was randomly watching a part of a video of his stating the corona anti-bodies that the vaccines make will attack future variants of the the virus but will not be effective, in fact they will compete against normal antibodies, making the infection worse.

Im sure he has more important points, but I can compare that to the multi pill synthetic vitamins that would compete with real vitamins, retarding ones health.

[68style]

The news1130 quote

"Vancouver police did respond to a report of a party at English Bay, issued no tickets

Kennedy Stewart says police have 'better things to do' than enforce COVID-19-related orders, urges people to behave "

Nice...

Yah, like sit on Beach Ave yesterday handing out VI’s and unnecessary noise tickets to cars and motorcycles.... also running student speed watch in the 30km/h zone. Really pressing shit.

[quasi]

The news1130 quote

"Vancouver police did respond to a report of a party at English Bay, issued no tickets

Kennedy Stewart says police have 'better things to do' than enforce COVID-19-related orders, urges people to behave "

Nice...

From what I seen on the news they had a murder and a seperate stabbing/attempted murder within 30 mins of each other starting around 8:30. At least that's what they reported as a lack of members attending that party.

[whitev70r]

yah ... some serious sh*t at Cardero's in Coal Harbour. Gang shooting. Keep that sh*t in Surrey guys!

[twitchyzero]

sure there's probably alcohol involved so the distancing sucked but it's an outdoor gathering, why bother using police resources when people wont pay anyways

[is350]

Yah, like sit on Beach Ave yesterday handing out VI’s and unnecessary noise tickets to cars and motorcycles.... also running student speed watch in the 30km/h zone. Really pressing shit.

I actually don't have a problem with police pulling speeders in school zones, those people deserve the tickets, and they will impose more of a risk to peds.

I hate the police on alex fraser or hwy 17 pulling over drivers doing 90, seriously get a life, do something more important.

[Manic!]

yah ... some serious sh*t at Cardero's in Coal Harbour. Gang shooting. Keep that sh*t in Surrey guys!

Well known gangster had been shot 2 times before. You can hear his brother screaming in the video.


https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/real-scoop-gang-shooting-leaves-at-least-one-dead-in-coal-harbour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FHOWSyn2K4

[Hondaracer]

Biden announces today every American that wants a vaccine can get one today regardless of age. Presumably they also will have the follow up shots within the manufacturers recommended time frame.

Where in Canada we only have 2 provinces that are vaccinating 40 year olds

[JDMDreams]

VPD logic, Coronas,e Hastings drugs, ppl getting shot is no risk to public, loud cars and bikes has taken many lives over the years.

[The Producer]

Biden announces today every American that wants a vaccine can get one today regardless of age. Presumably they also will have the follow up shots within the manufacturers recommended time frame.

Where in Canada we only have 2 provinces that are vaccinating 40 year olds

this may change for us at 2 o'clock today

40+ AZ vaccine sounds like it's coming very soon.:pokerface:

[320icar]

So that’s why my wife was told to sign up today. Psh

[immorality]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7767959/bc-vaccine-registration-everyone/


Under its updated timetable, B.C. is asking millennials and Gen-Xers to register on the following schedule:

Monday, April 19 – Registration opens for people aged 40 and up
Tuesday, April 20 – Registration opens for people aged 35 and up
Wednesday, April 21 – Registration opens for people aged 30 and up
Thursday, April 22 – Registration opens for people aged 25 and up
Friday, April 23 – Registration opens for people aged 18 and up

[Ch28]

Registration has been open for anyone to do so for the past several weeks. This entire "age X is now open to register" is nothing more than trying to make it seem like they're making progress.

[winson604]

Registration has been open for anyone to do so for the past several weeks. This entire "age X is now open to register" is nothing more than trying to make it seem like they're making progress.

Lol I got hella confused, I "registered" a couple weeks ago via some BC website and got a confirmation number which they told me is important and would make it easier. Then there's the register in age bracket thing and coworker is saying nah it's different, the first one was just to registered to be notified for the real registration? I don't know wtf is going on lol

[whitev70r]

Registration is the most inefficient process ...registration means absolutely nothing. Who designed the 2 step process? I registered a week ago and have not receive email for actual appointment yet. Talked to neighbour who registered and was confused as hell ... she thought now she can get an apt today for the vaccine.

Really silly and stupid question but why can't you register and book an appointment with one call or one visit to the website ... one. Is that too much to ask for?

[Hondaracer]

Lol I got hella confused, I "registered" a couple weeks ago via some BC website and got a confirmation number which they told me is important and would make it easier. Then there's the register in age bracket thing and coworker is saying nah it's different, the first one was just to registered to be notified for the real registration? I don't know wtf is going on lol

So that’s the same thing my wife did. She registered on one site then she saw an ad about a different one so she clicked it and it was a legit govt. site but it was different than the one she registered first with..

[MarkyMark]

Registration is the most inefficient process ...registration means absolutely nothing. Who designed the 2 step process? I registered a week ago and have not receive email for actual appointment yet. Talked to neighbour who registered and was confused as hell ... she thought now she can get an apt today for the vaccine.

Really silly and stupid question but why can't you register and book an appointment with one call or one visit to the website ... one. Is that too much to ask for?

How old are you? I was under the impression that even if you registered already they still only get back to you about an appointment when your age group is next in line.

[yray]

I think its to see how many of us are actually in the province and allowing for better allocation.

Just going by census data, alot of people might be out of country etc.

[westopher]

Registration is the most inefficient process ...registration means absolutely nothing. Who designed the 2 step process? I registered a week ago and have not receive email for actual appointment yet. Talked to neighbour who registered and was confused as hell ... she thought now she can get an apt today for the vaccine.

Really silly and stupid question but why can't you register and book an appointment with one call or one visit to the website ... one. Is that too much to ask for?
They were pretty clear.
Register when your age group is eligible to register, so that the system doesn't get overloaded by those that are way down the line.
They will contact you when your age group is eligible. Unless you're 55+, you aren't getting vaccinated yet. Thats all been communicated.

[CRS]

They were pretty clear.
Register when your age group is eligible to register, so that the system doesn't get overloaded by those that are way down the line.
They will contact you when your age group is eligible. Unless you're 55+, you aren't getting vaccinated yet. Thats all been communicated.

The email confirmation after you register also says:

CRS, thank you for registering.

This is your first of three steps to get immunized against COVID-19.

Your registration confirmation number is: A-BCD123

Be sure to save this number.

It will make step two, booking your vaccination appointment, quick and easy.

We’ll contact you when it’s your turn to book a vaccination appointment.

To make sure your notification email doesn’t end up in a spam folder, add us to your address book.

My critique of the system in place would be that there should have been a verification system that tells those registering that they've already registered so that there aren't duplicate entries. This would also let people know that this registration and the age registration is the same thing.

[sonick]

Registration is the most inefficient process ...registration means absolutely nothing. Who designed the 2 step process? I registered a week ago and have not receive email for actual appointment yet. Talked to neighbour who registered and was confused as hell ... she thought now she can get an apt today for the vaccine.

Really silly and stupid question but why can't you register and book an appointment with one call or one visit to the website ... one. Is that too much to ask for?

They were pretty clear.
Register when your age group is eligible to register, so that the system doesn't get overloaded by those that are way down the line.
They will contact you when your age group is eligible. Unless you're 55+, you aren't getting vaccinated yet. Thats all been communicated.

Looks like the latest schedule to 'register' is the same process as this post from a few weeks ago quoted below.

Except back when I first shared it there was no instructions about age specific groups registering at any given time, just sounded like it was an open registration and you would be contacted once your group was up.

I THINK that is the case, the messaging from health authorities are just so confusing...

You can pre-register for vaccination online now, even if you are not eligible yet. They'll reach out via email or sms on how to book an appt when you become eligible:

https://www.getvaccinated.gov.bc.ca/

[whitev70r]

I THINK that is the case, the messaging from health authorities are just so confusing...

THIS ...

[CivicBlues]

Whelp, according to Hulk Horgan as a Vancouver resident I can go up and party it up in Whistler on a daytrip but I'll be ticketed if I get caught driving in Burnaby.

[Great68]

Random check stops now asking where people are going?
So police by the roadside are now the judge and jury on what constitutes a valid reason to travel?

[320icar]

Whelp, according to Hulk Horgan as a Vancouver resident I can go up and party it up in Whistler on a daytrip but I'll be ticketed if I get caught driving in Burnaby.

Lol wut? You’re not just talking VI right

[pastarocket]

Horgan: "Hotels, tourism operators are following new orders, to not book any customers living outside of local areas"

Example, hotel in harrison hot springs not taking bookings for Burnaby residents.

Random audits, random roadside checks by all BC police to make sure people are not travelling outside of local community. for all major highways. Huge fine for non essential travel outside. new border signs on BC Alberta border. warning Albertans to stay home if here for non essential travel like vacation.

So, these are the tonnes of bricks that Horgan is going to use to deter non essential travel within BC and between provinces?? Hmmmm. :suspicious:

[Great68]

Lol wut? You’re not just talking VI right

No, they just announced they'll be doing random check stops/road blocks asking where people are going.

[JDMDreams]

Wooooooo scary warning signs, but Cain and sons will say they aren't gonna try to enforce this cuz they got vis to give

[westopher]

“Oh fuck a sign, better go back to airdrie” - guy from Alberta that thinks covid is a hoax?

[Hondaracer]

“I’m going to drive my parent to a medical appointment in X community”

Oh, ok

So let’s use golf courses as an example, they are all still open. You think people gonna stop golfing outside their health region? Lol

[yray]

brb driving to bella coola because its VCH

[RiceIntegraRS]

Horgan: "Hotels, tourism operators are following new orders, to not book any customers living outside of local areas"

Example, hotel in harrison hot springs not taking bookings for Burnaby residents.

Random audits, random roadside checks by all BC police to make sure people are not travelling outside of local community. for all major highways. Huge fine for non essential travel outside. new border signs on BC Alberta border. warning Albertans to stay home if here for non essential travel like vacation.

So, these are the tonnes of bricks that Horgan is going to use to deter non essential travel within BC and between provinces?? Hmmmm. :suspicious:

https://i.imgflip.com/56ca48.jpg

[The Producer]

this may change for us at 2 o'clock today

40+ AZ vaccine sounds like it's coming very soon.:pokerface:

quoting myself - just registered at a couple of local pharmacies. hopefully will be able to get in quick

[immorality]

quoting myself - just registered at a couple of local pharmacies. hopefully will be able to get in quick

I registered today and was able to book for Monday morning through the government site.

[ssjGoku69]

gg to those who live in Burnaby and work in Vancouver. There's a chance you'll get fined because you're travelling from fraser health to vancouver coastal health. The province can just setup base at skytrain stations and fine everyone on the trains

https://youtu.be/aMdlCNgygjE?t=674

[westopher]

That’s one of, if not the dumbest thing someone’s said here recently and Charlesincharge posted multiple times in the last few pages

[whitev70r]

Hopefully, Horgan can employ those who have lost their jobs .. hospitality/restaurant industry to go to Translink stations and checkpoints to have these nice conversations with people. Obviously, officers like Cain doesn't have time to do that, he's busy making our streets safe.

[Alpine]

Sure, let's restrict people from travelling from one city to another but let's continue to allow people to fly/travel into the country.

[mikemhg]

This is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

I've been a supporter of this government through the entire course of COVID, but this is it for me.

You allow international flights from all the places in which these variants come from, but you're trying to tell me I can't go camp, or stay at a cabin on the island/interior? :lol

Guess what Horgan, if I'm a retired boomer living in a house I bought 20+ years ago out of the city, it sure as fuck easy to "stay home" with a beach or campground minutes drive from you.

When you live in a condo in the city, and we haven't been able to air travel in over a damn year now, good luck telling those people to "stay in your region".

Go fuck yourself.

My trip plans will go forward just as scheduled.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hard to believe the level of incompetence we're seeing. Wow

Let's completely ignore what's been shown to work for other countries, and just do random shit that has only one result - pissing off your constituents. FailFish

[BIC_BAWS]

gg to those who live in Burnaby and work in Vancouver. There's a chance you'll get fined because you're travelling from fraser health to vancouver coastal health.

TIL that Burnaby is Fraser Health.. totally thought it was part of VCH.

[mikemhg]

I've listened to the high-up's in my company speak about visiting their vacation homes on the Coast, Interior and Island during this entire pandemic.

We've heard of party members in governments in each province visit their vacation homes abroad, and within Canada, especially lake country in Ontario.

Bonnie Henry literally took a flight to visit her family on the island during the Easter holiday.

You think those same people who own vacation properties will be hanging out in town?

No fucking way.

This is classism at its finest.

[Obsideon]

oh fucking yay.
Indoor dining restriction extended until May 25th
Many shops are going to shut down.

[Hondaracer]

I've listened to the high-up's in my company speak about visiting their vacation homes on the Coast, Interior and Island during this entire pandemic.

We've heard of party members in governments in each province visit their vacation homes abroad, and within Canada, especially lake country in Ontario.

Bonnie Henry literally took a flight to visit her family on the island during the Easter holiday.

You think those same people who own vacation properties will be hanging out in town?

No fucking way.

This is classism at its finest.

People with yachts ain’t gonna be getting pulled over to check their health region I’ll tell ya that much lol..

Fucking peice meal party here ffs..

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1384309087010054144

[eclipseman]

I registered today and was able to book for Monday morning through the government site.

Visited the BC gov website this afternoon looking for pharmacy locations. Tried to sign up at a few Shoppers and Pharmasaves without any luck. Ended up getting an appointment for Wed from an independent pharmacy.

Pretty quick after all said and done.

[twitchyzero]

almost embarrassed to be a canadian right now

123K new cases and 600 deaths since easter

[quasi]

It looks like once you register depending on your postal code you might be able to book right away.

If you're in an area with high infection rate you'll get it quicker.

Or am I totally missing something?

[StylinRed]

When I regd my parents they got an appointment booking link right away

I registered then as well, but haven't got a link to book yet, maybe I gotta wait til next week

[JDMDreams]

Went to two donair stores for dinner tonight both closed, ended up going to a&w. This wouldn't have happened if we just closed for a month last year

[RiceIntegraRS]

I registered my parents at the same time 55+ and it took 3 days to get my dads appointedment booked, he got the Pfizer shot today, and my mom for some reason had to wait 5 extra days to book her appointment for this friday. Took 2 weeks total from registration to actually getting the vaccine.

Is it random what shot ur getting when registering?

[Hondaracer]

Went to two donair stores for dinner tonight both closed, ended up going to a&w. This wouldn't have happened if we just closed for a month last year

Tell that to Ontario

Also..donair shops are like..take out only when they ARE open?..

[underscore]

Oh hey we finally got travel restrictions. A year late and not implemented in any logical way, but at this point I'm not surprised.

[StylinRed]

Is it random what shot ur getting when registering?

From what I've seen it just depends what the vaccination centre is using that day, parents had to go to different vac centres (availability) and each had a sign outside listing which vaccines they were using (both were only offering pfizer)

[68style]

Went to two donair stores for dinner tonight both closed, ended up going to a&w. This wouldn't have happened if we just closed for a month last year

Since when does anyone eat in a donair shop?

I think it's highly likely both those places closed for........ other reasons

[donk.]

They should test the vaccine on govt officials first

If they survive, the vaccine is good

If they die, the country is safe

[Amuse]

Some articles say a fine for travel across different “health regions” and some say “local communities”. So who knows.

[Bouncing Bettys]

This didn't age well.
I always love when a prank caller gets through on cbc' BC Today. Today a man called in saying we should have road checks, with guards, and (now in a bad german accent) said you must produce your papers, as proof you don't have Covid. Only this time, the host took the call seriously and posed the question to her guest. The guest just said there would be logistical and legal difficulties, and so on. Funny and scary when obvious satire is mistaken for legitimate suggestions of authoritarian measures, and people are willing to consider them.
11/19/2020

[Bouncing Bettys]

Double post

https://media.giphy.com/media/5wWf7GMbT1ZUGTDdTqM/giphy.gif

[Traum]

What are the different “health regions” in the lower mainland/ BC and what cities/municipalities do these cover?

Is there a map with the health regions?
Map at the bottom. Individual municipalities listed with their health regions on top:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/partners/health-authorities/regional-health-authorities

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/managing-your-health/mental-health-substance-use/find-services-map-large.jpg

[Manic!]

What are the different “health regions” in the lower mainland/ BC and what cities/municipalities do these cover?

Is there a map with the health regions?

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/health/managing-your-health/mental-health-substance-use/find-services-map-large.jpg



https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/partners/health-authorities/regional-health-authorities

[JDMDreams]

So everyone is in Fraser health and everything else is buttfuck no where. Sounds like I'm fine going from bby to Harrison to Kelowna

[Bouncing Bettys]

Didn't realize the Fraser Health Region included so much of the Lower Mainland. Not just a bunch of dumb hicks in Abby/Wack/Langley driving the numbers?

[JDMDreams]

^ you mean Surrey?

[Bouncing Bettys]

^ you mean Surrey?
Hard to see on that map, but yes Surrey, Delta, Burnaby, Coquitlam, Maple Ridge, etc.,

[SkinnyPupp]

It didn't take long for people to equate this to Papers, please (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papers,_Please)

[320icar]

Hard to see on that map, but yes Surrey, Delta, Burnaby, Coquitlam, Maple Ridge, etc.,

Even as far as Ladner. All my friends, family, work etc is in richmond 3 minutes away from me. Granted not like I get to see friends/fam anyways

[twitchyzero]

Kash Heed says unlikely any meaningful enforcement due to counter attack OT pay

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/you-will-not-be-able-to-do-it-former-solicitor-general-doubts-b-c-can-enforce-travel-restriction-1.5394085

[CharlesInCharge]

What will the future hold... vaccinated families get city and road use? And when will the city proposed tolls kick in? This is getting closer to that movie Minority Reports.

btw, which one is the fake news?
https://i.imgur.com/erRN0YP.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

30 more times, so one is 0.0001% chance and one is 0.004%. Birth control is 17 times more likely than that. Both are lower or as low as pretty much any other drug that exists. Smokers have around a 0.87% chance to get VTE blood clots.

Imagine a smoker avoiding vaccinations... Ele Fucking Giggle EleGiggle (actually they probably should quit for a while before getting vaccinated, but if you smoke you obviously don't care about covid or blood clots or anything else health related)

[quasi]

Further to what I posted yesterday this isn't news breaking information it's posted I honestly never seen it until this morning, posting in case anyone else was in the dark like myself. It does look like certain postal codes are getting priority, ie: if you live in an area where they haven't taken it as serious and infection rates are high you get priority (Yes we're talking most of Surrey, but not the area I live in for some reason lol). Probably all part of the meta game, their just smarter then the rest of us. :) It looks like anyone 40+ can get the AstraZeneca shot at the Pharmacy which makes sense, I see some of you posted above about making appointments.


General population

Everyone living B.C. will have the opportunity to get the vaccine for free in 2021. Your vaccine appointment will be scheduled when you are eligible, based on your age.

Priority neighbourhoods

People born in 1981 or earlier (40+) who live in high-transmission neighbourhoods can register and get contacted to book their vaccine appointment on the same day.

Check if you live in a high-transmission neighbourhood

High-transmission neighbourhoods are located in 13 communities across B.C.

Fraser Health

East Newton
Fleetwood
North Delta
North Surrey
Panorama

Fraser Health

Port Coquitlam
South Langley Township
West Abbotsford
West Newton
Whalley

Vancouver Coastal Health

Kensington
Squamish

Northern Health

Dawson Creek



Pharmacy program

People born in 1981 and earlier (40+) can get the AstraZeneca vaccine at eligible pharmacies in the Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island, the Interior and Northern B.C.

[CharlesInCharge]

30 more times, so one is 0.0001% chance and one is 0.004%.... Youre so smart... please tell us then why cant you get compensated for vaccine damage in the U.S. if the vaccines are so safe? What dollar amount does Canada provide for vaccine damage or death?

[GLOW]

so if i'm 2 blocks west of boundary in east van, and work 5 blocks east of boundary in burnaby, i can never go in to the office? :lol

https://media.tenor.com/images/0283f8169ce766913c3bb8c615dd6ec7/tenor.gif

[eclipseman]

It looks like once you register depending on your postal code you might be able to book right away.

If you're in an area with high infection rate you'll get it quicker.

Or am I totally missing something?

I'm in one of the 13 high-risk areas, however, I did not get a notification from the government to book an appointment (I've been registered for a few weeks). I merely tried booking at various pharmacies in the area, because of the new eligibility for 40+ w/ Astra-Zeneca and was successfully able to book an appointment.

[CivicBlues]

A year into this pandemic and a vaccine rollout, yet people still don't know the which cities are in which Health Region?

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded
- change the BaseMap to OpenStreet Map for more detail

So everyone is in Fraser health and everything else is buttfuck no where. Sounds like I'm fine going from bby to Harrison to Kelowna

Sorry buddy, no Kelowna for you. You get stuck with the shitty parts of Metro Van. Though you still have Golden Ears and Manning Park, good luck getting a parking spot EleGiggle

[westopher]

There’s literally a map posted above his comment. Twice.

[Mikoyan]

My brother is in one of the targeted areas. He registered a couple weeks back, and he got the text/email this morning to book. He's booked in for his shot in a couple of days.

[Hondaracer]

Hahahaha.. so the fucking public safety minister coming out now saying random roadside checks will not happen and if anything “MAYBE” they will setup at ferries etc.

Then there’s also articles coming out from political analysts saying the restrictions are virtually impossible to enforce because of VCH and Fraser health sharing such large borders and not to mention regional and RCMP police forces that there is no way to coordinate the enforcement between different jurisdictions lololol

If this fucking shit is a total failure and numbers are still going up after may long this will be the biggest fucking failure of the entire pandemic for the BC Govt.

[Hakkaboy]

Looks like the latest schedule to 'register' is the same process as this post from a few weeks ago quoted below.

Except back when I first shared it there was no instructions about age specific groups registering at any given time, just sounded like it was an open registration and you would be contacted once your group was up.

I THINK that is the case, the messaging from health authorities are just so confusing...

Most people know this by now, but in case people don't, NO, you do NOT have to re-register if you have already registered previously before the age groups were announced according to the FAQ:

https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questions/i-registered-my-age-group-was-open-registration-will-i-stay-queue-or-do-i-need


Question:
I registered before my age group was open for registration. Will I stay in the queue or do I need to register again?

Answer:
You will not need to register again. You will receive an email or text (depending on what you chose) when you are eligible to book a vaccination appointment.

[68style]

Youre so smart... please tell us then why cant you get compensated for vaccine damage in the U.S. if the vaccines are so safe? What dollar amount does Canada provide for vaccine damage or death?

Where do you get compensated for permanent damage from Covid? USA? Canada? Anywhere? Nope.

And you’re millions of times more likely to get Covid than anything from a vaccine

Pick your poison, I know which route I’m going.

[CRS]

https://twitter.com/DrBarbKing/status/1384136625362333704

Welp, suffice to say, Ontario is fucked.

[whitev70r]

^ how do they determine the % of chance of surviving?

[Traum]

^ how do they determine the % of chance of surviving?
They're doctors. It's what they do.


In a level 3 triage scenario, patients who have a greater than 70% chance of surviving twelve months from the onset of critical illness (based on an evaluation of their clinical presentation at the point of triage) should be prioritized.

[westopher]

I believe that someone has actually created an app based on a formula which takes age, preexisting conditions, genetic health risks, your prior health issues, etc.
Kind of like how they determine your life insurance premiums and risks but more scientifically accurate. I’m not sure if it was implemented, but I for sure remember hearing about it.

[Hondaracer]

A year and a half later and you’re running out of capacity. Your family members deaths are in the government’s hands now.

[CharlesInCharge]

Where do you get compensated for permanent damage from Covid? USA? Canada? Anywhere? Nope.

And youÂ’re millions of times more likely to get Covid than anything from a vaccine

Pick your poison, I know which route IÂ’m going. So it tells you something that if only a handful of people are predicted to die or get damaged from the vaccine, why not provide death money assurance so more people would get vaccinated and get this thing over with?

I remember years back reading about an incident of a Measles outbreak at a school where the teens infected were the vaccinated one and not the none vaccinated.
So we can presume what happened was teens with natural immunity were stronger compared to the vaccinated which had damaged immunity from the vaccines.
Who's smart enough to say that western vaccines arent designed in a way to fail in the future?
No guaranteed medical dollar amount compensation is a sign thats its all jacked up.

[CRS]

So it tells you something that if only a handful of people are predicted to die or get damaged from the vaccine, why not provide death money assurance so more people would get vaccinated and get this thing over with?

I remember years back reading about an incident of a Measles outbreak at a school where the teens infected were the vaccinated one and not the none vaccinated.
So we can presume what happened was teens with natural immunity were stronger compared to the vaccinated which had damaged immunity from the vaccines.
Who's smart enough to say that western vaccines arent designed in a way to fail in the future?
No guaranteed medical dollar amount compensation is a sign thats its all jacked up.

Where is your source for the measles outbreak where it was the vaccinated teens that got infected?

Don't pull some bullshit "I'm too lazy to look it up so look it up yourself" response. If you're going to make a statement like that, go and back it up.

The only way to gain your "natural immunity" is to actually get the measles. This is no different than getting the MMR vaccine since this particular vaccine uses an attenuated live virus. The infection and immune response is the same as if you got the actual virus.

[68style]

So it tells you something that if only a handful of people are predicted to die or get damaged from the vaccine, why not provide death money assurance so more people would get vaccinated and get this thing over with?

I remember years back reading about an incident of a Measles outbreak at a school where the teens infected were the vaccinated one and not the none vaccinated.
So we can presume what happened was teens with natural immunity were stronger compared to the vaccinated which had damaged immunity from the vaccines.
Who's smart enough to say that western vaccines arent designed in a way to fail in the future?
No guaranteed medical dollar amount compensation is a sign thats its all jacked up.

Welll, I’d say you’re doing some pretty fantastical logical gymnastics with your causal relationships, but that’s like saying that water is wet at this point.

There’s not a company that’s ever existed making anything in this world that is going to advertise creation of a fund for if their product fails...

I don’t believe your measles situation one bit, it simply didn’t happen or is anecdotal at best.

Imagine if companies issued media release like this: “We at General Mills have created a fund for when someone somewhere eventually chokes and dies on one of our Cheerios products they or their family can apply for compensation” nayyyy that’s not how things work. In the unlikely event that shit happens, you lawyer up and the burden of proof is on you to show that company was negligent since they already passed numerous safety standards and underwent rigorous testing on the way to market.

[SumAznGuy]

Did a quick google search and came up with a few hits.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/504811

Basically they think kids vaccinated too young against measles and the vaccine failed so they got the virus.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000359.htm

Another example of a vaccine failure, but not really proving CDC's point as non-vaccinated kids also caught the virus.

[JDMDreams]

So what do we have to do to get the cov mayor and Hogan fired?

[westopher]

Vote?

[JDMDreams]

^ fired, not unelected in 4 years

[CharlesInCharge]

Where is your source for the measles outbreak where it was the vaccinated teens that got infected?

Don't pull some bullshit "I'm too lazy to look it up so look it up yourself" response. If you're going to make a statement like that, go and back it up.

The only way to gain your "natural immunity" is to actually get the measles. This is no different than getting than getting the MMR vaccine since this particular vaccine uses an attenuated live virus. The infection and immune response is the same as if you got the actual virus. I dont keep stuff like that on hand to win over vaccine debates... it must have been something Dr. Suzanne Humphries had found and here is something new she linked to on her Facebook that Im going to watch later. https://www.bitchute.com/video/mhLU0zzTPYv6/

btw Japan banned the mmr vaccine.
..
Imagine if companies issued media release like this: “We at General Mills have created a fund for when someone somewhere eventually chokes and dies on one of our Cheerios products they or their family can apply for compensation” nayyyy that’s not how things work. In the unlikely event that shit happens, you lawyer up and the burden of proof is on you to show that company was negligent since they already passed numerous safety standards and underwent rigorous testing on the way to market. Your ancestors survived millions of years on this planet without any vaccine shots... now youre living under occupation in a fine tuned 1000 year empire... good luck trying to figure out what the truth is and if their vaccines are safe.

U.S. National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program
As of October 2019, $4.2 Billion in compensation (not including attorneys fees and costs) has been awarded.

[quasi]

I dont keep stuff like that on hand to win over vaccine debates... it must have been something Dr. Suzanne Humphries had found and here is something new she linked to on her Facebook that Im going to watch later. https://www.bitchute.com/video/mhLU0zzTPYv6/

btw Japan banned the mmr vaccine.
Your ancestors survived millions of years on this planet without any vaccine shots... now youre living under occupation in a fine tuned 1000 year empire... good luck trying to figure out what the truth is and if their vaccines are safe.

U.S. National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

What was the average life span 1000 years ago....hell 80 years ago compared to today?

[320icar]

What was the average life span 1000 years ago....hell 80 years ago compared to today?

IIRC life span was similar (not the same) to what it was today, but infant mortality rate was exponentially higher, therefore skewing the ”average age of death was 35” kind of thing.

[CRS]

I dont keep stuff like that on hand to win over vaccine debates... it must have been something Dr. Suzanne Humphries had found and here is something new she linked to on her Facebook that Im going to watch later. https://www.bitchute.com/video/mhLU0zzTPYv6/

btw Japan banned the mmr vaccine.
Your ancestors survived millions of years on this planet without any vaccine shots... now youre living under occupation in a fine tuned 1000 year empire... good luck trying to figure out what the truth is and if their vaccines are safe.

U.S. National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

:ahwow:

Wow, how convenient that you're not able to produce anything factual/credible after making an outlandish claim.

Totally not how every single one of your posts goes. /s

[westopher]

btw Japan banned the mmr vaccine.
Your ancestors survived millions of years on this planet without any vaccine shots...
Yes and the average human life expectancy in the 1800s was in the 30s. With the point above about infant deaths, adjusted it’s about 55. Still pretty far off of 75

[68style]

Your ancestors survived millions of years on this planet without any vaccine shots... now youre living under occupation in a fine tuned 1000 year empire... good luck trying to figure out what the truth is and if their vaccines are safe.

U.S. National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

Every single year, year after year, up until COVID, life expectancy has increased in first world countries.

And yet people like you want more... and insist that all doctors and scientists and companies and governments are trying to kill all of us earlier.

You know what IS killing all of us? People like you and your kind wasting everyone's fucking time promoting conspiracy theories that get in the way of forward progress.

[CivicBlues]

Speaking of MMR, wasn't there some talk a while back that the reason why kids didn't get super sick with COVID was because they were recently vaccinated with the MMR vaccine? That some sort of cross-immunity could have been present?

I sure hope so, as I got an MMR and TDAP booster back in 2019 before I went to Africa.

Edit: URL is a bit sus but here's the jist of the theory:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-the-measles-vaccine-may-help-protect-against-covid-19#Vaccine-schedules-may-make-a-difference

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't know about US or Canada, but Hong Kong has a $1 billion ($128m USD) indemnity fund for the vaccines. I am assuming all deaths have been coincidental so far, but maybe the paralyzed faces are not as much.

Maybe if those end up being permanent, they'll get something from that fund.

[Traum]

I don't know about US or Canada, but Hong Kong has a $1 billion ($128m USD) indemnity fund for the vaccines. I am assuming all deaths have been coincidental so far, but maybe the paralyzed faces are not as much.

Maybe if those end up being permanent, they'll get something from that fund.
So far, Hong Kong has not paid a single dime from that indemnity fund to the victims of vaccine death since authorities have steadfastedly refused to acknowledge the vaccines played a role in causing those deaths. I don't remember the exact count now, but I think something like 13 deaths out of 15 are from China's Sinovac vaccine? To save Communist China's face, the HKSAR gov would never officially recognize the deaths as being caused by the vaccine.

Trudeau has said that in Dec 2020 the federal gov would launch a Canada-wide vaccine indemnity fund to provide no-fault support to those who are affected by serious injuries as a result of taking a COVID vaccine, but as far as I can remember, no additional detail has been provided as of March on the issue.

[CharlesInCharge]

So did anyone watch this? https://www.bitchute.com/video/mhLU0zzTPYv6/

The COVID-19 vaccines (Moderna) are causing multiple sclerosis autoimmune damage.


What was the average life span 1000 years ago....hell 80 years ago compared to today? Its said that the Quran that was recited 1400 years ago is the same that is recited today. So it should be accurate that prophet Mohammed died at 63.
Since then on weve had quite the animal farming, city sewage and spreading of diseases, but once soap was popularized it basically stopped premature deaths, not vaccines.

Why are old people dying of Covid anyway because their DNA hasent changed overtime... its because theyve lost their traditional way of life as in eating grass fed meat and soaking in the sun... most of us are industrialized servants today.

Yes and the average human life expectancy in the 1800s was in the 30s. With the point above about infant deaths, adjusted itÂ’s about 55. Still pretty far off of 75
I dont think the Roman Empire ever collapsed, but went underground and since then have been perfecting their ways for absolute power.
During the 1800's many were purposely poisoned and exposed to bacteria to "efficiently" feed the masses.

How Victorians Knowingly Poisoned Their Food | Hidden Killers
youtube.com/watch?v=bkQ0RFTHvIo


Every single year, year after year, up until COVID, life expectancy has increased in first world countries.

And yet people like you want more... and insist that all doctors and scientists and companies and governments are trying to kill all of us earlier.

You know what IS killing all of us? People like you and your kind wasting everyone's fucking time promoting conspiracy theories that get in the way of forward progress.
Why do westerners have the most health problems despite having the highest expenditures in the health system?

Can we even believe the life expectancy rates?
The health system is profit driven and the doctors are just trained robots. I think 'Rockefeller medicine' was behind the following cancer virus... create the problem, profit from the 'solution'.

Tens of millions of Americans were exposed to this virus between 1955 and 1963 as a consequence of adventitious contamination of the early poliovirus vaccines, produced in Asian macaque kidney cell cultures. By 1961, between 80% to 90% of all US children younger than 20 years had been injected at least once with formalin-inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) containing SV40

Theres a CBC documentary I posted in this thread featuring a child with an SV40 virus, rare cancer tumor in its brain which it contracted from its mother who had the Polio vaccine.

:ahwow:

Wow, how convenient that you're not able to produce anything factual/credible after making an outlandish claim.

Totally not how every single one of your posts goes. /sCovid didnt kill me yet... but the vaccine may damage you in the longterm... only time will tell.

[68style]

Covid didnt kill me yet... but the vaccine may damage you in the longterm... only time will tell.

Not really, cuz 10 years from now you’ll find an obscure article about a couple people here and there who probably had pre-existing conditions who reacted badly to the vaccine(s) and ignore the other 5 billion successful inoculations

[The Producer]

posting more trash from bitchute? :rukidding: there is nothing you could post that would invalidate your argument faster than more bitchute garbage.

you're just doing the bad actors/propagandists work for them comrade.

I've lost 14 months of income - i don't care how we get out of this, but fanning the flames of anti-vax accomplishes nothing

be part of the solution or go away

[CharlesInCharge]

You live in Canada... Canadian doctors, like the one in the video, are threatened by government if they speak out on their own, let alone host this stuff on YouTube.

[The Producer]

but they aren't scared to post it on an ultra right wing conspiracy driven video site?

your logic is flawed.

guys like you want everybody to question everything. I have no desire to do that. My life was fucking awesome before this, and it will be again after this. We just need to get through it ASAP. The way to do that is and always has been mass vaccination.

[SkinnyPupp]

So far, Hong Kong has not paid a single dime from that indemnity fund to the victims of vaccine death since authorities have steadfastedly refused to acknowledge the vaccines played a role in causing those deaths. I don't remember the exact count now, but I think something like 13 deaths out of 15 are from China's Sinovac vaccine? To save Communist China's face, the HKSAR gov would never officially recognize the deaths as being caused by the vaccine.

Trudeau has said that in Dec 2020 the federal gov would launch a Canada-wide vaccine indemnity fund to provide no-fault support to those who are affected by serious injuries as a result of taking a COVID vaccine, but as far as I can remember, no additional detail has been provided as of March on the issue.
Has any death been linked to any vaccine anywhere in the world? Out of like 300 million doses so far?

[CharlesInCharge]

but they aren't scared to post it on an ultra right wing conspiracy driven video site?

your logic is flawed.

guys like you want everybody to question everything. I have no desire to do that. My life was fucking awesome before this, and it will be again after this. We just need to get through it ASAP. The way to do that is and always has been mass vaccination.The only other video of hers Ive seen is exposing the government for threatening to jail a Surrey dad that wants to speak out against the courts pumping hormones into his child.

Interview with Robert Hoogland Who is Fighting Canadian Government Sanctioned Trans Child Mutilation
youtube.com/watch?v=sBMP9A2tTt8


If shes 'right wing' or just because a government shill like Alex Jones raved about millions of fema coffins some years back doesnt mean those coffins werent really planned this 'great rest'.
https://www.google.com/search?q=millions+of+fema+coffins&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicysyopo7wAhXC7Z4KHTg3B8AQ_AUoAXoECAEQA w&biw=912&bih=717

[The Producer]

i'm not going to be your foil tonight so you can go off on your rants.

I'm going to go back to hammering pharmacy sites to try to get an AZ shot so I don't waste a spot in the Pfizer/Moderna line for somebody that needs it more.

Keep posting tho - i think your really changing some minds here :drunk:

[sonick]

English Bay today

https://i.imgur.com/U38TlTX.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

That's enough CiC for this thread forever

[Obsideon]

I already know of a couple people heading out on party yacht's today ... :okay:

[Gumby]

That's enough CiC for this thread forever
People who take the time to respond to CiC must be really bored :lol

[westopher]

I already know of a couple people heading out on party yacht's today ... :okay:

Tell them to jump over the railing.

[320icar]

English Bay today

https://i.imgur.com/U38TlTX.jpg

Inb4 westopher was at the beach today rekindling an old flame :p

[westopher]

Lol still haven’t done it.

[Hondaracer]

Don’t leave your health authority but 4/20 celebrations are aighttttt

[SkinnyPupp]

English Bay today

https://i.imgur.com/U38TlTX.jpg
It's OK cannabis coats your lungs preventing the virus from getting in

[EvoFire]

That's enough CiC for this thread forever

Three pages of worthless garbage. It's not even a tiny bit constructive.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Three pages of worthless garbage. It's not even a tiny bit constructive.
He posts more about building a Hadron Collider in a van parked in an alleyway and I'm here for it.

[Traum]

Has any death been linked to any vaccine anywhere in the world? Out of like 300 million doses so far?
Do you pay attention to the news? or do you just selectively filter them out?

There have been a small number of blood clotting deaths after the person received AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. And then there are the Sinovac ones in Hong Kong. The HKSAR gov has certainly been refusing to acknowledge the post-vaccine deaths were linked to Sinovac. But if you were a 65+ years old person with chronic illnesses, are you going to take a Sinovac jab?

At the end of the day, it really just comes down to that.

[SkinnyPupp]

Do you pay attention to the news? or do you just selectively filter them out?

There have been a small number of blood clotting deaths after the person received AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. And then there are the Sinovac ones in Hong Kong. The HKSAR gov has certainly been refusing to acknowledge the post-vaccine deaths were linked to Sinovac. But if you were a 65+ years old person with chronic illnesses, are you going to take a Sinovac jab?

At the end of the day, it really just comes down to that.
There have been deaths after vaccinations yes, but nothing directly correlated AFAIK. If they have please share the link...

And I mean anywhere in the world, not just HK

An overweight diabetic with heart disease dying of a heart attack after getting the vaccine does not necessarily mean it was a vaccine death.

[Traum]

Do you associate the blood clotting deaths after vaccination with AZ or JJ to be something directly correlated with the vaccine? The risks are extremely small, but parts of the world are making that association strong enough to warrant banning the vaccine or restricting its use to certain lower risk age groups.

Sinovac vaccination among the 60+ yrs old group in the world is rare, mostly because the damn vaccine has a recommendation usage age of 18 - 59. The Hong Kong people who died after the Sinovac vaccination are mostly 60+ yr olds, and tend to have pre-existing health conditions. Do you associate the death with the vaccine? or do you associate it to the pre-existing health conditions?

[SkinnyPupp]

All I want is some official correlation of a death being caused by any vaccine. Not someone who died after a vaccine, but a known case of "this person died because of the vaccine and they would have lived if they had not taken it".

I'm not saying it's impossible or I won't believe you if you show me... I just want to see it. Because AFAIK (and I don't know everything) it hasn't happened yet.

HK lists in great detail everyone who gets sick enough to go to a hospital, even if they have a headache or something. The reports look like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzdnGKQUYAMX-gA.jpg

and when someone dies after a vaccine, they put out the information in great detail, including age and sex, and any existing ailments they had.. Including BioNTech btw, not just Sinovac. Without exception, everyone has had diabetes and hypertension. In some cases they had other issues like high cholesterol. Almost all of them were smokers. Also a couple pregnant women have had miscarriages, and they started telling pregnant women not go get them yet, despite other countries allowing it. It's most likely that the miscarriages are coincidental, but they are being extra cautious.

There's plenty to be mad about with the HK govt, to say the least. But when it comes to covid, they are handling it strictly and transparently, and have been effective at keeping the damage very low. 0 local cases today btw.

Compare this to the shit show going on in Canada, and I don't see how you can be mad. You're looking for something that isn't there.

BTW they also release detailed info on how many people get vaccinated each day. Here's yesterday:

Sinovac: 4,622 received 1st dose. Total 385,181
8,550 received 2nd dose. Total 241,908

BioNTech: 12,618 received 1st dose. Total 373,498
238 received 2nd dose. Total 149,068

1st dose: 758,679
Fully vaccinated: 390,976

3100 people booked for Sinovac that day, 14,000 booked for BioNTech

4-5X as many people are getting BioNTech now. Eventually they'll run out of Sinovac, and probably will stop using it. They were going to introduce AZ, but stopped. They tried to get J&J but there's not enough being made yet for other countries.

[sonick]

I may be wrong here but from my understanding most of these clots linked to vaccines have not resulted in death? Traum is making it sound like every reported clot was a death as a result of that clot.

There may be a small proportion of the already small proportion of clot discoveries, that actually resulted in death. I mean people develop clots (DVT) just by sitting on a plane too long.

E.g.
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-doctors-find-2nd-case-of-blood-clot-linked-to-astrazeneca-vaccine-in-canada-1.5391531

[bcedhk]

What happens if you double book the pre-registration page? Do I get pushed to the back of the line?

I pre-registered on the first day (April 7) when the website went live. But my partner thought she was doing me a favour and pre-registered for me again yesterday... Now I have two text message with two different codes :QQ:

[CRS]

What happens if you double book the pre-registration page? Do I get pushed to the back of the line?

I pre-registered on the first day (April 7) when the website went live. But my partner thought she was doing me a favour and pre-registered for me again yesterday... Now I have two text message with two different codes :QQ:

Your codes won't work to book online when you're up to take the vaccine.

You'll have to call in to have them register for you.

At least this was the case and my experience with family members that double booked.

[quasi]

My brother in law tipped me off to a small Pharmasave near us that had vaccines.

No appointment took me 20 minutes, that includes driving there and back and filling out the paper work, nobody in line.

[Hondaracer]

You’ve gotta think with all these walk up places having vaccines that a bunch are getting wasted.

I have noticed however that there are numerous large vaccination clinics popping up including the old Fortius building (RIP :( ) as well as a big make shift one being setup at BCIT so I’m assuming they are anticipating a big ramp up

[westopher]

Theres only 5-6 doses per vial, so there’s no reason more than 5 could really get wasted per place, and the AstraZeneca is much more shelf stable than the others. There’s really no reason any should get wasted unless someone is super negligent or they all expire because people are too afraid of it.

[Expresso]

You’ve gotta think with all these walk up places having vaccines that a bunch are getting wasted.

I have noticed however that there are numerous large vaccination clinics popping up including the old Fortius building (RIP :( ) as well as a big make shift one being setup at BCIT so I’m assuming they are anticipating a big ramp up

BCIT is replacing Central Park.

[JDMDreams]

No point in ramping up if they keep letting shit this happen and flights from India Philippines coming


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/7776676/vancouver-420-crowds-sunset-beach/amp/

[beansbaxter]

What happens if you double book the pre-registration page? Do I get pushed to the back of the line?

I pre-registered on the first day (April 7) when the website went live. But my partner thought she was doing me a favour and pre-registered for me again yesterday... Now I have two text message with two different codes :QQ:

This happened to me as well. I called them and they said it shouldn't be a problem and that the second registration would be tagged as a duplicate. I guess I'll see what happens when it's my time to book.

[RiceIntegraRS]

My brother in law tipped me off to a small Pharmasave near us that had vaccines.

No appointment took me 20 minutes, that includes driving there and back and filling out the paper work, nobody in line.

I assume ur over 40 and was able to get the vaccine no problem. I tried calling a bunch of places to see if i could receive the vaccine but im not quite 40 yet though so i was denied.

[quasi]

I assume ur over 40 and was able to get the vaccine no problem. I tried calling a bunch of places to see if i could receive the vaccine but im not quite 40 yet though so i was denied.

Unfortunately I'm closer to 50 than 40. :) Seems fine so far, arm a little sore but other than that no issues so far.

[SSM_DC5]

Theres only 5-6 doses per vial, so there’s no reason more than 5 could really get wasted per place, and the AstraZeneca is much more shelf stable than the others. There’s really no reason any should get wasted unless someone is super negligent or they all expire because people are too afraid of it.

Just to add on to this. Old batch of AstraZeneca expired beginning of April. New batch of AZ has a few months until expiry (I think May). Pharmacy's keep it in the fridge until the dose is needed. After the dose is drawn, it's straight back into the fridge. Anyone over 40 (since that's the current age limit) should be able to easily get AZ if they want it. If they want to try and get Pfizer or Moderna instead, then they will need to go to through the portals to go to places like Fortis and Central park.

[320icar]

So I can sign up today (32) and my wife can sign up yesterday (41) but she is adamant she does not get AZ. To be honest I don’t want it either, nor do I want it injected into my peehole as her westopher.

Does that mean we pretty much go to the back of the line?

[westopher]

Doesn’t make a difference to you, just her as you aren’t eligible for AstraZeneca anyways. Just have to wait for the age cohorts to go through. It’s on 65 and older now, so expect to wait two months minimum, instead of getting it today.
I’m a stats motivated kind of guy, so I just wouldn’t take my chances with covid any longer than I have to.

[SSM_DC5]

So I can sign up today (32) and my wife can sign up yesterday (41) but she is adamant she does not get AZ. To be honest I don’t want it either, nor do I want it injected into my peehole as her westopher.

Does that mean we pretty much go to the back of the line?

What are yours and your wife's reasons for avoiding AZ?

[Manic!]

I don't know if everyone knows this but you can register at a pharmacy on top of registering with the government. Today I registered with 4 pharmacies. On the wait list for all of them.


https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/vaccine/pharmacy

[MarkyMark]

So I can sign up today (32) and my wife can sign up yesterday (41) but she is adamant she does not get AZ. To be honest I don’t want it either, nor do I want it injected into my peehole as her westopher.

Does that mean we pretty much go to the back of the line?

I don't think you're at the back of the line it just means you have to wait until your turn based on your age. You can't get the AZ shot anyways since you're not over 40. Your wife could get the AZ shot if she called around, or she can wait her turn and most likely get Moderna or Pfizer.

[The Producer]

I don't know if everyone knows this but you can register at a pharmacy on top of registering with the government. Today I registered with 4 pharmacies. On the wait list for all of them.


https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/vaccine/pharmacy

me too. i keep hearing that there are walk ins at certain places, but i can't spend the day looking for one. i'd lock up the shop right now if I heard a local rumour of walk up stock though

i've spammed every wait list i can find. hoping that I'll hear back, but I doubt they need to go to a wait list at all. sounds like the 40-55 year olds aren't as picky as the retired boomers who can sit around on FB all day reposting trudeau memes

[320icar]

What are yours and your wife's reasons for avoiding AZ?

I wouldn’t use the word avoid. I cannot speak for my wife. For myself I’d just prefer the best product available (efficacy rates, etc etc). Just like anyone else in this world if given the option I’d wait another week and get the higher quality product.

I work in a literal shithole so the faster I could get *any* vaccine the better

[eclipseman]

Just got my AZ vaccine today. I contemplated waiting for Pfizer or Moderna, but at the going rate, they probably wouldn't get to me until late May or early June.

Was in and out in 5 minutes. Pharmacist told me I could wait in the car for 15 minutes. Other than a sore shoulder after the jab, I'm feeling no ill effects.

[twitchyzero]

how they gonna know you suddenly need medical attention in the car haha

[Teriyaki]

^ When you suddenly drive and crash through the front door, they'll know.

[320icar]

^ When you suddenly drive and crash through the front door, they'll know.

What, did he get the shot in richmond!?!?!

[eclipseman]

how they gonna know you suddenly need medical attention in the car haha

I'll just lay on the horn hahaha.

[SkinnyPupp]

After my first shot I definitely wouldn't have been good to drive. God damn!

[whitev70r]

Can those of you who got in so quickly like to share which pharmacy? And or location that has it? #RSvaccinehunter

Or just put your name down at them all ... Shoppers, LD, Rexall, Save-On, etc.

And am I correct to assume that it is the AZ?

[stylez2k4]

Can those of you who got in so quickly like to share which pharmacy? And or location that has it? #RSvaccinehunter

Or just put your name down at them all ... Shoppers, LD, Rexall, Save-On, etc.

And am I correct to assume that it is the AZ?

You can check https://mobile.twitter.com/vaxhunterscan?lang=en

[Traum]

All I want is some official correlation of a death being caused by any vaccine. Not someone who died after a vaccine, but a known case of "this person died because of the vaccine and they would have lived if they had not taken it".

I'm not saying it's impossible or I won't believe you if you show me... I just want to see it. Because AFAIK (and I don't know everything) it hasn't happened yet.

...
There's plenty to be mad about with the HK govt, to say the least. But when it comes to covid, they are handling it strictly and transparently, and have been effective at keeping the damage very low. 0 local cases today btw.

You are quite correct that officially, no death has been directly tied to any of the known COVID vaccines at this point. The only way you're gonna get something like that is if the person has an anaphylactic reaction to the vaccine, but all vaccination sites would already have countermeasures ready to treat that.

There have been 19 deaths in Hong Kong where the deceased person has recently been vaccinated for COVID. 17 of those had been vaccinated with China's Sinovac vaccine. As you said, all of them of at least some sort of chronic illness, usually multiple issues. IIRC, most of them are elderly people in the 60+ range. Again, I am going to point out that Sinovac's official recommendation is to only use the vaccine on those who are 18 - 59.

Obviously you refuse to acknowledge that the Sinovac vaccine can lead to death. You also think Hong Kong's handling of COVID has been strict and transparent, and I will strongly disagree on both accounts. Sinovac vaccines should not have been used on the elderly at all, and there have been 17 deaths to show that the vaccine is not safe for those elderly people with chronic illnesses. It cannot be proven that the vaccine is directly responsible for these 17 people's death, but what we do know is, the vaccine will trigger an immune response in every patient who was vaccinated. Is it too far fetched to logically speculate that the vaccine-induced immune response is too much for the bodies of people with chronic illnesses to handle?

To me, what you are saying sounds a lot like a person has been stabbed in his aorta by a robber, and the doctor insists that the person died of blood loss instead of dying from the stabbing. Technically the doctor is right.

Lastly, I will say again that Hong Kong's low COVID numbers are there in spite of the gov's inaptitude, not because of its handling of the virus. The credit belongs to discipine of the general public.

[SSM_DC5]

I wouldnÂ’t use the word avoid. I cannot speak for my wife. For myself IÂ’d just prefer the best product available (efficacy rates, etc etc). Just like anyone else in this world if given the option IÂ’d wait another week and get the higher quality product.

I work in a literal shithole so the faster I could get *any* vaccine the better

Thanks for sharing. I came across this video about comparing efficacy rates. If the information presented is correct, then comparing vaccines by efficacy rates doesn’t work because it isn’t comparing apples to apples.https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

[SkinnyPupp]

You are quite correct that officially, no death has been directly tied to any of the known COVID vaccines at this point. The only way you're gonna get something like that is if the person has an anaphylactic reaction to the vaccine, but all vaccination sites would already have countermeasures ready to treat that.

There have been 19 deaths in Hong Kong where the deceased person has recently been vaccinated for COVID. 17 of those had been vaccinated with China's Sinovac vaccine. As you said, all of them of at least some sort of chronic illness, usually multiple issues. IIRC, most of them are elderly people in the 60+ range. Again, I am going to point out that Sinovac's official recommendation is to only use the vaccine on those who are 18 - 59.

Obviously you refuse to acknowledge that the Sinovac vaccine can lead to death. You also think Hong Kong's handling of COVID has been strict and transparent, and I will strongly disagree on both accounts. Sinovac vaccines should not have been used on the elderly at all, and there have been 17 deaths to show that the vaccine is not safe for those elderly people with chronic illnesses. It cannot be proven that the vaccine is directly responsible for these 17 people's death, but what we do know is, the vaccine will trigger an immune response in every patient who was vaccinated. Is it too far fetched to logically speculate that the vaccine-induced immune response is too much for the bodies of people with chronic illnesses to handle?

To me, what you are saying sounds a lot like a person has been stabbed in his aorta by a robber, and the doctor insists that the person died of blood loss instead of dying from the stabbing. Technically the doctor is right.

Lastly, I will say again that Hong Kong's low COVID numbers are there in spite of the gov's inaptitude, not because of its handling of the virus. The credit belongs to discipine of the general public.
I agree with some of what you're saying, but disagree with others.

It's true that Sinovac isn't recommended for 60+. It's weird that HK is promoting it for those people.

It also seems quite apparent that they are trying to "promote" that vaccine for some reason. Before abandoning it completely, they're already testing if it can be combined with other vaccines. Some have speculated that this is some way of them looking for "any way possible to justify its use" but I think this is in preparation to switch people over once they leave it behind. If you got your first shot of Sinovac, and we no longer offer it, you can get your second shot of BNT.

The way the numbers pan out - 17 deaths after Sinovac, 2 deaths after BNT definitely will lead you to the theory that one is more dangerous than the other. But keep in mind that these numbers are extremely low. A few thousand people got vaccines, a few dozen died, and more often they got one vaccine over the other. This means nothing in the grand scheme of things. They can look into it and find out if there's causation between it. If you don't trust HK to do it, other countries will. Other countries have vaccinated a fuck of a lot more people with Sinovac than HK ever will.

380,000 people in HK have gotten the Sinovac vaccine at least one dose. In Chile, 13,352,602 have received one. Indonesia 17,275,001 have gotten one.

How many deaths after vaccine in Chile? Indonesia? That should set you on a path to study, if you think there's something to this story.

It's not about "refusing to acknowledge" something. There's just nothing to acknowledge yet. Just a few people died after getting a vaccine. Well a few people died of a heart attack after taking the MTR. And a few more died of a heart attack after taking the bus. Does this mean the bus is more dangerous?

Finally, I 100% agree that early on, it was the people of Hong Kong that prevented Covid from being as big of a disaster as it could have been. The medical workers in particular started a union from scratch, and went on strike until the border to China was closed.

However since then, all the policies have been set by the government, and have been effective (some policies more than others). Closing the borders to certain countries, like right now 3 countries are completely banned from entering the country. They shut down airlines that bring people with covid into the country. We have a 3 week quarantine for most countries, which is longer than anywhere else in the world. Not many are as strict as HK when it comes to immigration.

The mandatory quarantine itself has been proven to find cases that otherwise would have been out in the public. After that gym breakout, they forced hundreds of people to quarantine, and found a bunch of positives there. Those people would have been spreading it through the community, and there would probably be another wave. Instead we're at like 0-2 local cases a day, mostly from known sources.

[GS8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJEkMVGZcA&ab_channel=joeybtoonz

[320icar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJEkMVGZcA&ab_channel=joeybtoonz

Subscribed to him a few weeks ago. He speaks to my soul for the hatred of social media

[SkinnyPupp]

That video destroys any browser I play it on, Edge and Chrome both. Just complete lockup

[quasi]

Can those of you who got in so quickly like to share which pharmacy? And or location that has it? #RSvaccinehunter

Or just put your name down at them all ... Shoppers, LD, Rexall, Save-On, etc.

And am I correct to assume that it is the AZ?

A small Pharmasave in Langley the size of my kitchen that I didn't know existed on 200th & 65th next to the Staples, correct AZ

[GGnoRE]

India reporting 250k cases per day, hospitals so overrun that they are running out of oxygen tanks, 2 patients sharing 1 bed, variant rampaging etc...

From Vancouver Sun: "According to latest data from the B.C. Centre for Disease Control, 10 flights arrived in Vancouver from Delhi between April 6 and April 16 with infected people on board — and in some cases with several infected people on board." https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-sick-people-arrive-in-b-c-from-india-as-trudeau-ponders-restriction

Quarantine for international travel? what quarantine? According to CBC: "As Ontario struggles to control a brutal third wave of COVID-19, health officials say more than 200 international travellers arriving in the province have refused to stay in a quarantine hotel. The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) told CTV News Toronto that as of April 15 they are aware of at least 211 tickets that have been issued to travellers since the hotel quarantine program came into effect in February."
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/more-than-200-travellers-arriving-in-ontario-have-refused-to-stay-in-quarantine-hotels-1.5396802

but Trudeau says yesterday: "We have some of the strongest measures in the world in terms of borders. We have seen there are direct flights from many countries of concern but there are also indirect flights as well and making sure we have a system to address all flights is something we did months ago." https://globalnews.ca/news/7778952/ottawa-consulting-on-stricter-border-measures-wont-stop-flights-from-india/

We are more than a year into the pandemic. There's no excuse for this. We've seen how countries like Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore got covid under control and prevented variants from infiltrating. But nah, we'd rather stick with singling out small businesses and restaurants.

As of yesterday, BC reporting 39 cases of the B 1.617 COVID-19 variant, known as a double mutation, originating from India.

[eclipseman]

Can those of you who got in so quickly like to share which pharmacy? And or location that has it? #RSvaccinehunter

Or just put your name down at them all ... Shoppers, LD, Rexall, Save-On, etc.

And am I correct to assume that it is the AZ?

Pacific prescriptions and supplies near Coquitlam Centre. Pharmacist told me they were fully booked in three hours after the 40+ update.

I also tried booking through Save-on, Pharmasave and Shoppers, but never received a call back at any of those places.

From what I understand, AZ is the only vaccine supplied through pharmacies currently.

[SkinnyPupp]

India reporting 250k cases per day, hospitals so overrun that they are running out of oxygen tanks, 2 patients sharing 1 bed, variant rampaging etc...

From Vancouver Sun: "According to latest data from the B.C. Centre for Disease Control, 10 flights arrived in Vancouver from Delhi between April 6 and April 16 with infected people on board — and in some cases with several infected people on board." https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-sick-people-arrive-in-b-c-from-india-as-trudeau-ponders-restriction

Quarantine for international travel? what quarantine? According to CBC: "As Ontario struggles to control a brutal third wave of COVID-19, health officials say more than 200 international travellers arriving in the province have refused to stay in a quarantine hotel. The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) told CTV News Toronto that as of April 15 they are aware of at least 211 tickets that have been issued to travellers since the hotel quarantine program came into effect in February."
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/more-than-200-travellers-arriving-in-ontario-have-refused-to-stay-in-quarantine-hotels-1.5396802

but Trudeau says yesterday: "We have some of the strongest measures in the world in terms of borders. We have seen there are direct flights from many countries of concern but there are also indirect flights as well and making sure we have a system to address all flights is something we did months ago." https://globalnews.ca/news/7778952/ottawa-consulting-on-stricter-border-measures-wont-stop-flights-from-india/

We are more than a year into the pandemic. There's no excuse for this. We've seen how countries like Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore got covid under control and prevented variants from infiltrating. But nah, we'd rather stick with singling out small businesses and restaurants.

As of yesterday, BC reporting 39 cases of the B 1.617 COVID-19 variant, known as a double mutation, originating from India.
That is some bullshit. Strongest measures in the world? LOL

BTW India is one of the 3 countries banned here for 2 weeks. The others being Pakistan and Philippines.

Are you guys writing to your MPs about this btw? Or is there no point

[Hondaracer]

Mutated variants already in Canada and Turd “might have to consider” stopping flights from India..

[westopher]

Flights coming in wouldn’t matter even if they actually fucking enforced a proper quarantine. You need to come here? Fine. 2 fucking weeks quarantine or you go to jail. That’s it. No “please quarantine, maybe if you can. So sorry about your rights to travel the world and infect your community”
Too many stupid fucks “BuT mA ConSTiUtIonAl RiTes!”
We need to face the facts that
A) people are fucking idiots
B) Canadians are fucking idiots
And treat them as such.

[Hondaracer]

Well, either way that is a federal jurisdiction and they could not be dropping the ball harder.

Don’t go to kamloops but please come from India!

[The Producer]

can't really blame a canadian passport holder in india for looking around and thinking it's time to get the fuck out of dodge

can absolutely blame our government for not quarantining that person. either go to this nice hotel or go to this army base field barrack. we don't care which one but you aren't leaving our sight and you sure as hell aren't going home.

this thing is over in 10 weeks and we're spiking the ball on the one yard line like idiots. self sabotage - why?

speaking of ball drops, I feel like I should have closed the shop on monday on gone looking for a vaccine. I have zero confidence that I'm going to hear back from any pharmacy on the north shore. I was waitlisted within 5 minutes of the announcement.

[BlackV62K2]

Turdeau doesn't want to offend other countries by banning incoming flights. Meanwhile let's just continue to fuck your own people. BC also be like, don't travel anywhere but has a red carpet out for people arriving from international flights.

[JDMDreams]

Watch we're gonna be fucked by the Indian variant and 2 weeks later they will be hurr Durr we don't have the power to close the borders.

[GGnoRE]

Let me give another reason why restricting travel ("force" quarantine for CA citizens, ban for non-citizens) between India and Canada is such a no-brainer.

Surrey: Highest Indian population in BC. Responsible for highest Covid infection rate in BC. http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/data (http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/data))
Brampton: Highest Indian population in ON. Responsible for highest Covid infection rate in ON (Currently has 22% Covid positivity test rate). https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/data-and-analysis/infectious-disease/covid-19-data-surveillance/covid-19-data-tool?tab=maps

Of course, there is a socio-economic factor that people from these cities are working in essential jobs in factories, plants etc. Combine that with the culture of multi-generations living in one household, it only takes 1 person to contract Covid to spread it to all their family members who will go on to cause an outbreak in the community. When people are travelling from India (source of variant), who are they likely to interact with once they come into BC or ON? Its like adding fuel to the fire.

[Ch28]

can't really blame a canadian passport holder in india for looking around and thinking it's time to get the fuck out of dodge

Maybe they should've came back "home" last year when the Canadian government gave everyone a heads up to return home if you're a Canadian that's currently abroad

[The Producer]

of course - but your form of whataboutism doesn't solve the immediate problem

every canadian passport holder has the right to be repatriated. it's one of our most basic rights. it's never going to change, so why even ponder it?

the federal government has had 14 months to figure out how to prevent the incoming infected from passing it in their communities. That's the failure. The great Australia scenario we hear about incessantly would have worked here too.

[westopher]

We should keep in mind the amount of immigration Canada is based on. I sure as hell would be visiting my dying relative if it came to that, and there are a lot of people who’s families they need to help are all in other places in the world. They should be able to help their families if necessary. I have more of an issue with the people coming back from their vacation homes in Florida than I do anyone that would be in situation.
All of it would be moot if a quarantine was enforced.
Do what you want, go where you want, but follow the rules when you get here to keep everyone in this country safe, or you’ll be quarantining in a cell at the border.

[Hondaracer]

If you’re landing in an airport from anywhere but a domestic location it should be a militarized system that basically holds your hand until you’re in the designated quarantine room. It should also have probably just stayed at that 2 week time frame snd have multiple tests over the course of that until you are discharged

But turd is obviously concerned with hurt feelings and would rather drag this out for as long as humanly possible..

[JDMDreams]

^ you mean like how Taiwan and Australia and solved their pandemic and economic problems? But human rights > pandemic and economy.

[mikemhg]

The UK has banned/restricted flights from India, pretty sure there's a larger expatriated community in the UK, than that of Canada :lol

If the UK can do it, why can't we?

I think it's absurd that one can travel to a country with a massive influx of COVID cases, and simply fly back to Canada, without any restrictions. Why aren't we handling inbound flights from places with massive outbreaks differently? Why don't we have officials at the airport to physically have the person escorted to a quarantine site?

I feel like there's so much more we could be doing here. Folks who have not left the country, stayed here the entire time, are now restricted from basic travel within the province?

Get the fuck out of here.

[The Producer]

If you’re landing in an airport from anywhere but a domestic location it should be a militarized system that basically holds your hand until you’re in the designated quarantine room. It should also have probably just stayed at that 2 week time frame snd have multiple tests over the course of that until you are discharged

But turd is obviously concerned with hurt feelings and would rather drag this out for as long as humanly possible..

so you don't want flights from hotspots banned (and canadians prevented from coming home), you want to make sure quarantine is handled correctly for ALL incoming international flights

we're on the same page i think

Why don't we have officials at the airport to physically have the person escorted to a quarantine site?



this is the way

[westopher]

The UK has banned/restricted flights from India, pretty sure there's a larger expatriated community in the UK, than that of Canada :lol

If the UK can do it, why can't we?

I think it's absurd that one can travel to a country with a massive influx of COVID cases, and simply fly back to Canada, without any restrictions. Why aren't we handling inbound flights from places with massive outbreaks differently? Why don't we have officials at the airport to physically have the person escorted to a quarantine site?

I feel like there's so much more we could be doing here. Folks who have not left the country, stayed here the entire time, are now restricted from basic travel within the province?

Get the fuck out of here.
Just because UK did it doesn’t make it right though. In fact, they’ve handled the pandemic worse than just about any developed nation on the planet.
We are on the same page about the quarantine, but I think to completely ban flights is callous and doesn’t address the issue that any flight is a threat, from anywhere in the world, and has been for over a year now. They should all be treated as such. Honestly even domestic flights should be treated as such, but the feds are too scared of letting the airlines fold.

[mikemhg]

Just because UK did it doesn’t make it right though. In fact, they’ve handled the pandemic worse than just about any developed nation on the planet.
We are on the same page about the quarantine, but I think to completely ban flights is callous and doesn’t address the issue that any flight is a threat, from anywhere in the world, and has been for over a year now. They should all be treated as such. Honestly even domestic flights should be treated as such, but the feds are too scared of letting the airlines fold.

I totally agree with you, I would say it's unfair to ban all flights entirely, for sure. But there is easily a better method in terms of escorting and controlling the quarantine for those who are entering the country, especially from nations with high COVID incidences.

One can fly somewhere internationally, return, and our Federal government won't even bother to make sure you quarantine for any timeframe. Yet now we're supposed to fear being pulled over on the highway because we want to go for a camping trip in this beautiful weather somewhere on the island or the interior?

To put the onus on restaurants, and now even the basic mobility of BC residents is simply an insult.

It just seems to perpetuate a class divide to folks. It seems as though we have a dual system in place here.

[westopher]

Absolutely. Especially with the exceptions made for people like the CEO of costco to come into the country for “essential work”
The only people who should be exempt are healthcare workers, and transport operators, and even then they should be tested. Although it’s kind of moot now. We are already fucked and we are our own biggest problem now.

[The Producer]

my biggest problem right now - today, is that I'm eligible for an AZ vaccine and I can't find one now. today. not next week, or next month. not in surrey, or chilliwack either. Close to home (so that I don't have to non essential travel)

Why are we relying on (the good work) of volunteer twitter feeds to tell us who has stock right now? Every pharmacy should have been tied into a central system w every dose accounted for. I should be able to see that Pharmacy X has 400 doses, is full staffed and will run until they've expended the stock. So much talking, so little action as usual. 14 months burned - couldn't build a website?

absolutely maddening

[immorality]

Interesting. I went on the gov't site on Monday and they had hundreds of openings starting next week in Coquitlam at the Poirier complex. Maybe you have to live in the area to get an appointment there?

[The Producer]

i don't know how to imbed twitter

.https://twitter.com/DavidWCochrane/status/1385332505943891976

BREAKING: CBC news has learned the federal government will ban passenger flights from India and Pakistan for 30 days starting tonight.

[pastarocket]

Yay! It's about time that Turd made a decision about a flight ban from India and Pakistan.

[westopher]

Yet someone’s still going to fly in from San Diego and go straight to Whistler.
“What time does the hill open?”
Nothing but a “look we are doing something” move

[pastarocket]

Yet someoneÂ’s still going to fly in from San Diego and go straight to Whistler.
“What time does the hill open?”
Nothing but a “look we are doing something” move


I disagree. We needed this flight ban for all direct flights from India and Pakistan fast.

Over 300 thousand daily Covid cases in India that is likely because of this double mutant variant B 1.617.

We already have a reported 39 cases, if not much more of this variant already in B.C.

If Turd just sat on his hands and waited for a "risk assessment" from infectious disease experts about this variant, things would be much worse.

[westopher]

I’m not arguing that it’s not going to make a difference. I’m saying it doesn’t address the root of the problem.
It’s amputating your finger when your whole hand is covered in flesh eating bacteria.

[RiceIntegraRS]

^Its the Canadian way, wait till its too late to do something about it. And when we do respond, its a bandaid fix.

[pastarocket]

^Its the Canadian way, wait till its too late to do something about it. And when we do respond, its a bandaid fix.


Our Canadian government does not take quick and decisive action when it is about Covid.

:facepalm:


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[twitchyzero]

Doubt americans are still the problem

it’s not June 2020 anymore, many are doubly vaccinated and now more worried about visiting our dumpster fire

[pastarocket]

Dr Bonnie's update:

1006 new cases
4 deaths
502 in hospital
160 in ICU

[Teriyaki]

Get it back down in the hundreds? Can we do it? It seems so long ago already when we were in the 300s and 400s and crying.

[Traum]

The India cases started re-surging back in mid-March, and it was escalating quickly too. By late March / early April, the explosive phase of the exponential curve was already very obvious. And yet Trudeau is only choosing to ban flights from India (and Pakistan) today on the 22nd.
FailFish

[EmperorIS]

Did other countries already banned flights from India and Pakistan long before the recent resurge?

[StylinRed]

Did other countries already banned flights from India and Pakistan long before the recent resurge?

The UK, HK, NZ banned Indian flights dunno who else, HK banned em for ab a month now, and the UK/NZ about a week I believe

I think the ban on Pakistan is just to appease India, as Pakistan doesn't have an issue like India is facing, not only that we're only getting 1 flight a week from Pakistan, and the government isn't quoting any numbers for the amount of covid from Pakistan flights

Health Minister Patty Hajdu says half of the people who are testing positive for COVID-19 after arriving in Canada on an airplane came from India, even though Indian flights accounted for only one-fifth of air traffic.

She says passengers coming from Pakistan are also testing positive at higher rates than average.

Alghabra says there are no flights coming in from Brazil at the moment but Canada won’t hesitate to ban further commercial flights if the data supports it.

At least 32 flights from Delhi and two from Pakistan have landed in Canada in the last two weeks carrying dozens of passengers who later tested positive for COVID-19.


Edit: the UK has also banned flights from Pakistan, Kenya, the Philippines, and Bangladesh due to growing covid cases

[pastarocket]

Did other countries already banned flights from India and Pakistan long before the recent resurge?

-pretty recent flight bans that New Zealand and Hong Kong imposed on India and Pakistan.

New Zealand: -from April 11th until April 28th

Hong Kong: starting April 20th.

UK: travellers from Indian and Pakistan flights are put on a "red list" as of 4am UK time, April 23rd, which means British or Irish passport holders, or people with UK residence rights, will be allowed in but must quarantine in a government-approved hotel for 10 days. If passengers don't have that status, they are banned from entering the UK.

[Manic!]

Doubt americans are still the problem

it’s not June 2020 anymore, many are doubly vaccinated and now more worried about visiting our dumpster fire

Many in the US still refuse the vaccine.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-republican-hesitancy/

[Ch28]

my biggest problem right now - today, is that I'm eligible for an AZ vaccine and I can't find one now. today. not next week, or next month. not in surrey, or chilliwack either. Close to home (so that I don't have to non essential travel)

Why are we relying on (the good work) of volunteer twitter feeds to tell us who has stock right now? Every pharmacy should have been tied into a central system w every dose accounted for. I should be able to see that Pharmacy X has 400 doses, is full staffed and will run until they've expended the stock. So much talking, so little action as usual. 14 months burned - couldn't build a website?

absolutely maddening

B.C. out of AstraZeneca vaccines amid surge in demand at pharmacies (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-out-of-astrazeneca-vaccines-amid-surge-in-demand-at-pharmacies-1.5398622)

VANCOUVER -- Just days after expanding its pharmacy-based COVID-19 vaccination program to those ages 40 and older, B.C. is now functionally out of AstraZeneca vaccines, health officials said Thursday.

During their news conference on the province's response to the coronavirus pandemic, provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry and Health Minister Adrian Dix were asked about growing wait-lists at pharmacies, particularly on Vancouver Island.

Henry said there had been "a lot of uptake" of the pharmacy-based program across the province.

"We have very little of it left in the province right now," Henry said.

[Manic!]

The UK, HK, NZ banned Indian flights dunno who else, HK banned em for ab a month now, and the UK/NZ about a week I believe

I think the ban on Pakistan is just to appease India, as Pakistan doesn't have an issue like India is facing, not only that we're only getting 1 flight a week from Pakistan, and the government isn't quoting any numbers for the amount of covid from Pakistan flights




Edit: the UK has also banned flights from Pakistan, Kenya, the Philippines, and Bangladesh due to growing covid cases

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-pakistan

evel 4: Very High Level of COVID-19 in Pakistan
Key Information for Travelers to Pakistan

Travelers should avoid all travel to Pakistan.
Because of the current situation in Pakistan even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants and should avoid all travel to Pakistan.
If you must travel to Pakistan, get fully vaccinated before travel. All travelers should wear a mask, stay 6 feet from others, avoid crowds, and wash their hands.

[The Producer]

B.C. out of AstraZeneca vaccines amid surge in demand at pharmacies (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-out-of-astrazeneca-vaccines-amid-surge-in-demand-at-pharmacies-1.5398622)

VANCOUVER -- Just days after expanding its pharmacy-based COVID-19 vaccination program to those ages 40 and older, B.C. is now functionally out of AstraZeneca vaccines, health officials said Thursday.

During their news conference on the province's response to the coronavirus pandemic, provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry and Health Minister Adrian Dix were asked about growing wait-lists at pharmacies, particularly on Vancouver Island.

Henry said there had been "a lot of uptake" of the pharmacy-based program across the province.

"We have very little of it left in the province right now," Henry said.

:okay:

a vaccine for my wife and I would not only take us off the board, but would basically guarantee that my public facing business can never be the source of spread.

guess I'll wait for more shitty boomers to take their sweet time to make their appointments.

there shouldn't be a single open slot in the cohort calendar. if there is, drop the eligibility years faster. clearly the uptake on the AZ shows that younger people are ready to go now. How about work upwards from 30 for the next month? anybody over 55 has had ample time to get vaccinated.

[underscore]

Can they just bounce through the US or another country on some loophole or does the flight ban actually achieve something?

[6793026]

^ exactly.. that's why i freaking hate how we do things

you can't ban SHIT.

Fine. ban india .. they drive to neighbouring countries via land and then just fly from China. Fly from other countries.

Unless there is a centralized system which you are clear from last 14 days from india or wherever... it ain't going to make a diff.

I was told AZ is lacking cause people in India is going to keep it for their own use.
#rumors?

[SkinnyPupp]

Pretty soon it's going to be hard to go to any country from India, so hopping around isn't exactly viable

Anyway what they really need to do is set up compulsory quarantine for all incoming travelers, like I posted a few pages back. Maybe even block anyone without a Canadian passport. Are these things even being discussed to anyone's knowledge?

[CivicBlues]

Jesus christ you can't make anyone happy here on this thread. You don't ban flights and people flip out. You ban flights and people still flip out.

If you fly to a Canada via a third country from India you have to get a 2nd PCR test before you're allowed to fly out from there. Places like Europe and China - you know places that are super strict actually have flights to/from India (if they don't ban them already) will make it exceedingly difficult for people to get to Canada.

[Teriyaki]

Do we not still have a entry ban to foreigners? I don't recall them announcing opening the borders to anyone but Canadian passport holders and PR?

[68style]

The only thing they really need to enforce is, as someone else already mentioned, a militarized approach to quarantine after landing.

Banning flights is lip service, they'll just fly into somewhere else first, stay a day and then grab another one to Canada if they're motivated at all.

[SkinnyPupp]

they'll just fly into somewhere else first, stay a day and then grab another one to Canada
I really don't think it's that easy.

[hud 91gt]

I have a distant family member who will remain unnamed, who spent the winter in Mexico (like every winter). While we all think it was disgusting i really was jealous.

Now I see she flew to Bellingham, spent 2 days in Washington to “quarantine”, walked across the border and caught a cab home. All to avoid the “government hotels.” Seems like a huge pain in the ass to save a couple hundred bucks. Most people are in and out of those hotels in 2 days after they get their test.

Either way, there are loopholes.

[punkwax]

Just got the notification I can book to get an AZ shot tomorrow. Problem is, I have 5 days of self-isolation to go after my daughter’s friend and classmate tested positive. Several of her other classmates have been tested and are all negative but we haven’t displayed any symptoms so haven’t bothered with a test, per instruction from 811.

Going to call the pharmacy tomorrow when they open and see what they have to say.. sure would suck to miss this opportunity and pick it up somewhere down the line.

[TurboTalon]

Received my AZ shot today at BCIT.

[6793026]

Correct me if i'm wrong, people are flying from India / or anywhere back to Canada has to be citizens. No visitors, no work visa (maybe), but definitely traveling not allowed. (Even if you have valid visitor visa or electronic travel authorization (eTA).)

All in all, anyone coming back to Canada are Canadians and has every right to return home. Now it's just tough cause they can't come in at all.

[nns]

Wanted to share this article because it has some good perspective:
VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) — The third wave of the COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia is weighing heavily on healthcare workers, with hospitalizations at a record high and surgeries postponed in an effort to ease the pressure.

On Monday, Health Minister Adrian Dix and Dr. Bonnie Henry said procedures are being paused because the hospital system is stressed — and the people who keep it running are exhausted.


Dr. Navdeep Grewal sees patients at Delta Hospital and Mount Saint Joseph Hospital and has been working on the frontlines throughout the pandemic.

She says the stress has been cumulative, compounding as they care for patients day-in day out during a pandemic

“We’re fatigued. We’re just tired of constantly going to work, having to wear a mask and PPE all day at work, not being able to socialize, not being able to sit together while having our lunch,” she explains.

“It’s just been a lot of shared fatigue experiences, trauma experiences. We’re seeing patients that come in quite sick, having to deal with wondering when are they going to get sicker and have to be admitted to ICU. All of that kind of stuff gathers over time. You just keep working, just going in every day, every week, every month, not knowing when you’ll have a break or when you’ll be able to finally say, ‘Okay it’s time to take a holiday now,’ or actually have the ability to take that time off and not feel stressed because you know that your coworkers are still in the midst of all of this.”

RELATED: Abbotsford nurse takes to Instagram with tearful plea after death of COVID patient
And each day brings a flood of new information — about vaccines, about transmission, about variants.

“It’s like taking a continuing medical education course several times a day, every single day. The information just comes down to so quickly and it changes so fast,” she says.

Grewal also does volunteer outreach to help people overcome vaccine hesitancy, so it’s not just her patients who rely on her to allay their worries.

“I feel like I need to be on top of my game so that I can convince patients and friends and family that vaccines are safe, and there’s nothing to worry about. It’s just constantly upgrading my own medical education so I can be the expert for my friends and family,” she says.

She says at this stage of the pandemic what worries her most is that the spread of the virus could outpace immunization.

“The hardest part for me is knowing that we’re so close to the end. And yet, we still have a way to go. Our vaccination rollout is still in progress, we still have only about 30 per cent of the population eligible even to get vaccinated,” she explains.

“We’re still not anywhere close to where we need to be. My worry is that with COVID-fatigue that has developed — especially in this third wave — that we just may end up getting so many more cases of variants and not really winning this race.”

Grewal isn’t hopeless or pessimistic.

“We can still move forward and get through this, if we just continue to do our art — wearing masks, physical distancing, and making sure that we all get the vaccine when it’s our turn.”

She does urge people to consider the ripple-effect their decision to bend the rules can have.

“There is a small segment of the population that is questioning, that is wondering whether there’s some rules that they can break and still feel safe, and that’s fine,” she explains.

“But if everybody starts to feel the same way, and everybody then starts to become an exception to the rule then that’s when we start to have transmission of variants and the transmission of cases within social gatherings and it just gets worse and worse over time. That’s what led to the third wave.”

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/04/22/bc-doctor-covid-exhaustion/

It's starting to annoy me how people who are eligible for vaccination aren't getting registered. It's not that they're conspiracy theorists, they're pretty normal people. It's just that for 1 reason or another, they can't be bothered to make it a priority. If the buck stopped at them in terms of their decision and the outcome, I wouldn't care, most people wouldn't care even. But their decision doesn't stop at them. I know we should learn to accept the things that we cannot control, and instead focus on the things we can control, and it's not kosher to shame people for their decisions, but it's getting pretty tough to keep my mouth closed when I see such flawed judgment.

The Dr in the article is literally the textbook definition of being altruistic. She suffers and endures for the betterment of strangers, for her friends, and family. I'm not religious but I think in some certain circles she'd be considered a saint.

[SkinnyPupp]

Correct me if i'm wrong, people are flying from India / or anywhere back to Canada has to be citizens. No visitors, no work visa (maybe), but definitely traveling not allowed. (Even if you have valid visitor visa or electronic travel authorization (eTA).)

All in all, anyone coming back to Canada are Canadians and has every right to return home. Now it's just tough cause they can't come in at all.
AFAIK travelers can still go, unless the policy was changed in the last week. I know this because last week, an American twitch streamer I watch just went to Canada and will be there for a few months.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Correct me if i'm wrong, people are flying from India / or anywhere back to Canada has to be citizens. No visitors, no work visa (maybe), but definitely traveling not allowed. (Even if you have valid visitor visa or electronic travel authorization (eTA).)

All in all, anyone coming back to Canada are Canadians and has every right to return home. Now it's just tough cause they can't come in at all.

International travellers are allowed to enter canada as long as they quarantine in hotel........... Last week more than 200 travellers were fined for not quarantining after they have arrived which probably means only 200 were caught and the thousands probably fell through the cracks or got off scott free knowing how lax the Canadian Justice system is. Thats why theres a huge uproar among BC residents on International flights, Residents are not allowed to leave their health authority while foreigners are allowed to roam free throughout the province.

Heres the link

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/quarantine-hotel-covid-19-travel-canada-fine-1.5988378

[twitchyzero]

I think the current system is probably ok if it’s just Canadians and PR returning home

but non-essential travel from foreigners? give them the military-style 2 week treatment like all successful countries or double vaccination records

[Hondaracer]

So the globe and mail is running a story right now regarding Theresa Tam saying “some restrictions could be lifted by summer if 75% of Canadians are vaccinated and 20% of those people have the second dose”

She then also says “you never know, you open up things and see what happens”

Oh, that’s the approach, that’s good to know. Not like there are dozens of countries well ahead of us that you could gather all the data you need to see what happens when restrictions are loosened..

[Ch28]

All this pandemic has shown me is if the big earthquake ever hits BC then we're all fucked because the government won't know what the fuck to do.

[Hondaracer]

The pandemic turned out to be not nearly as bad as they had originally thought when it started and the govt. still dropped the ball.

[MarkyMark]

Fuck what the government will do in an earthquake, people here get into fights over free salt when it's snowing out and hoard necessities at the first glimmer of bad news. I'm not big on guns but the thought of an earthquake makes me want to get a few.

[twitchyzero]

bUt We'Re NoT aN isLaNd

Vietnam: hold my beer

[punkwax]

Just got the notification I can book to get an AZ shot tomorrow. Problem is, I have 5 days of self-isolation to go after my daughter’s friend and classmate tested positive. Several of her other classmates have been tested and are all negative but we haven’t displayed any symptoms so haven’t bothered with a test, per instruction from 811.

Going to call the pharmacy tomorrow when they open and see what they have to say.. sure would suck to miss this opportunity and pick it up somewhere down the line.

No shot for me today. Re-registered and hope to get another chance when I’m able to roam free.

[subordinate]

Fuck what the government will do in an earthquake, people here get into fights over free salt when it's snowing out and hoard necessities at the first glimmer of bad news. I'm not big on guns but the thought of an earthquake makes me want to get a few.

Pretty much.... I did just that.

[pastarocket]

Fuck what the government will do in an earthquake, people here get into fights over free salt when it's snowing out and hoard necessities at the first glimmer of bad news. I'm not big on guns but the thought of an earthquake makes me want to get a few.


It's gonna be a very scary situation if and when the big one, a big earthquakes, hits BC.

What this pandemic, and natural disasters has reminded me is that when shit hits the fan, we see the best and worst of humanity. Most of the time, it's the worst behaviour. -not just focussing on our government.

Nurses, doctors, front line medical workers putting their lives at risk, working in hospitals where Covid patient cases are rising fast. Working to the point of mental and physical exhaustion.

People that paid their sacrifices day in and day out in their jobs as front line medical workers.

Then you have the motherfucking idiots like people throwing parties in their penthouse like Mo at Telus Gardens with no regard for people's safety or provincial health orders.

People beating up front line workers at supermarkets or yelling at these employees because they refuse to wear masks. People that keep saying "oh, my rights are violated" blah blah blah.

Blatant racism at the east Asian community in the Lower Mainland. I have seen racist graffiti that a racist fuck spray painted on the windows of the Chinese Cultural Centre.

A Lower Mainland resident who reported in the news recently that a Karen told her "You know this Covid is because of you...you need to go back to China"" simply because that person Gina Chong did not want to take a picture for that lady at a Port Moody Park. ""Sorry, we can't due to Covid".

https://www.tricitynews.com/amp/local-news/port-moody-woman-speaks-out-after-getting-racially-attacked-in-coquitlam-park-3642249

Racist attacks on Chinese seniors like this assault that happened last year just three blocks from my house! I'm glad that the cops arrested the mother fucker. Assaulting a 92 year old Chinese man.

Wow, what a tough guy! Jamie Bezanson :mad:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/suspect-charged-in-march-assault-on-elderly-asian-man-at-7-11-store-1.5659702


I do not have a lot of faith in humanity when it comes to how we treat each other in times of crisis. There are always gonna be some good people who take the time to care for others in times of crisis.

However, I think that evil and selfish behaviour of people would overcome the people's good side if BC experienced a big earthquake.

Heck, I can imagine people hauling big screen TVs and other electronics out of stores during looting when an earthquake hits BC. LUL

The magnitude 6.9 earthquake that hit San Fran in 1989 lasted for 15 seconds. -still remember TV news footage of widespread looting and violence in San Francisco. People stealing stuff and looting stores. Crime sprees everywhere.

If an increase in violent crime and widespread looting can happen in San Francisco after an magnitude 6.9 earthquake, that can definitely happen in B.C.

That is how us humans operate. :facepalm:

[twitchyzero]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-officials-to-announce-travel-restrictions-today-to-limit-covid-19-spread-1.5999366

The three regional zones are:

The Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley (Vancouver Coastal Health and Fraser Health areas).
Vancouver Island (Island Health).
Northern and Interior regions (Northern health and Interior Health)

...

"If you really have to ask 'should I go out to Chilliwack' the answer is no you shouldn't if you live in Vancouver," he said. "If you live on the North Shore, that's your local area. Stay in that area."

someone should let Farnsworth know Chilliwack is part of the valley

it's like Henry saying outdoor gathering of 10 is allowed, but discouraged :derp:

[SSM_DC5]

FYI to people looking for AstraZeneca. Shoppers across Metrotown where the Best buy used to be is doing walk in's. No idea if all shopper's are doing it. So if you are in area and want the vaccine, go get it.

[Obsideon]

So BC announced "new" travelling restrictions?
But in typical Canada fashion, it was followed up with a string of exceptions.

DO NOT TRAVEL, we will catch you and punish you to the fullest extent of the law! ($575 slap on the wrist) ... BUT it's ok if:

· Returning to your principal residence, moving or helping someone move
· Work, both paid and unpaid (volunteer)
· Commercial transportation of goods
· Getting health care or social services or helping someone get those services
· Court appearance, complying with a court order or parole check-in
· Exercising parental responsibilities
· Child care services
· Attending classes at a post-secondary institution or school
· Responding to a critical incident, like search and rescue operations
· Providing care to a person because of a psychological, behavioural or health condition, or a physical, cognitive or mental impairment
· Visiting a resident (as an essential visitor) at long-term care or assisted living facility
· Attending a funeral
· Travelling under a PHO variance. For example, BCHL

So basically you can never get caught unless you are a moron.
"Hi officer yes I plan to go play 18 rounds of golf in Mission with 4 of my friends then attend a yacht party at Horsehoe Bay this evening"

[Hondaracer]

I don’t plan on travelling outside of the health authority but I have a letter from work from both the provincial/federal levels “essential ” designation, I have my ID in my wallet, and tossed a branded shirt in my trunk, with those exceptions though that seems like overkill in avoiding a fine lol

[twitchyzero]

realistically though, joe bringing his camper trailer to the sticks isn't much risk to the general public

another rule backed by a poor track record that won't even really get enforced LUL

[The Producer]

FYI to people looking for AstraZeneca. Shoppers across Metrotown where the Best buy used to be is doing walk in's. No idea if all shopper's are doing it. So if you are in area and want the vaccine, go get it.

good looking out - somebody go get this!

still waiting for an email text or callback from about a dozen pharmacies in north van. starting to think there were never many doses here and that they are in hotter spots

edit: why tell us we're effectively out of AZ vaccines if you can still walk in and get it? fucking gov just continues to botch this

edit 2: just called every pharmacy in north van again, still no doses.

[westopher]

Do the Duffey loop? Danger zone.
Beach party at English bay? As long as you live near there, whatever, VPD is busy.

[yray]

just do a full lockdown

advised by LTL carriers I cannot ship anything to Quebec for a week.