[CivicBlues]

China isn't a race and calling out a culture for their stupid beliefs when it impacts the global population isn't racism.
:rukidding:
Did you not watch your own video? The people that are still buying and eating wildlife are the elite and those with above average means. I don't have a doubt the vast majority of Chinese people have never even considered eating a pangolin or bat. FFS, it's like watching the Real Housewives of wherever and calling out their massive carbon footprint and excess and then turning around and blaming "American culture for their stupid beliefs when it impacts the global population".

[CivicBlues]

Anyone been to YVR is the last few days? Is it really completely empty?

[hud 91gt]

YYZ was eerily quiet this morning

[Rallydrv]

I wonder if Fraser Health will delay turning the new ward at RCH into a mental health Unit?

You have a brand new 4 Floor Hospital with nobody in it set to be turned over in the next 30 days, it would make a good spot for turning into a medical wing to treat virus patients and you could keep them separated from the general Hospital.

It's coming. They need to allocate resources first. Ie doc, nurses and equipment accordingly

[StylinRed]

Disneyland is closed from Saturday on (think I read someone was planning on going here)

[HonestTea]

Disneyland is closed

[quasi]

Disneyland is closed from Saturday on (think I read someone was planning on going here)

Yup me, read that. Not really surprised, what kind of sucks is we were going a week into April and technically they haven't closed it for that date yet so we're still kind of up in the air for the rest of the month.

Most likely IMO it will be extended and trip cancelled but until it officially is I can't do anything like cancel my flights or try and work a refund from Disney if possible.

Worst case scenario I'll probably end up with credits for everything and push trip till the fall, honestly not to worried about it just playing it by ear.

[Hondaracer]

Wife has a trip to New York next week, she was suppose to sing at Carnegie Hall and go see Hamilton on broadway as well as a Rangers game.. all the events have been cancelled and New York banning groups of over 500 so pretty much all shows and sights are done..

Trying to decide if I should grab a flight on points and just go anywhere that remains open but NY will probably be a shell of itself during this time

[Presto]

Out of an abundance of caution, the office is closed today, and tomorrow. Someone had a fever and respiratory problems. While we wait for test results, the office is getting pro-cleaned.

[The_AK]

Anyone been to YVR is the last few days? Is it really completely empty?

Was supposed to fly out to Pittsburgh on Sunday but luckily client cancelled. Glad I'm staying put. I redownloaded snapchat to see what people are posting from YVR and it looks super quiet.

[bcedhk]

i feel sorry for all the SME being effected by the sudden event closures.... Doesn't look like our government is offering much support for them compared to Hong Kong or US?

[twitchyzero]

China isn't a race

panda isn't a race either and rice field hats are worn by many nationalities, amirite?

https://cdn.statically.io/img/nextshark.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/vdvdv-e1583959725890.png?w=800&quality=100

[JSALES]

Everything getting cancelled or postponed. I was supposed to go to coachella and now I’m trying to get a refund on airline tickets and it’s impossible to get through

[StylinRed]

Events with over 250ppl are cancelled in BC now

[6793026]

Everything getting cancelled or postponed. I was supposed to go to coachella and now I’m trying to get a refund on airline tickets and it’s impossible to get through

My flight is a 4 PM today... i got notification at 2:00 PM the course i'm about to take in alberta is cancelled. I was told to NOT go to calgary due to covid19 as they didn't wnat 100 + people in a room.

i had to forgo my ticket at air canada cause expedia + Westjet + aircanada... told me there is a 206 minute wait... wtffff

it's best to just go to rlight counter caues email and calls ain't working....

Was supposed to fly out to Pittsburgh on Sunday but luckily client cancelled. Glad I'm staying put. I redownloaded snapchat to see what people are posting from YVR and it looks super quiet.
was told to isolate ifyou fly from US back to Canada; new was released recently... still need to be fact checked.

[belka]

panda isn't a race either and rice field hats are worn by many nationalities, amirite?

Holding China accountable for literally being an incubator of terrible diseases (why do they all come from china anyways) is racist and we're better then that, right? So get sick and die, but at least you're not making chinese peoples feelings hurt. Their practises have now affected the world and there is death and financial losses and untold other problems. China should be held financially responsible.

[Mikoyan]

BREAKING: B.C. is recommending against all travel outside of Canada, including the U.S. Anyone who travels outside of the country will be required to stay home from work and school for 14 days. https://t.co/t3pRiJkGvy

[Ludepower]

Trying to decide if I should grab a flight on points and just go anywhere that remains open but NY will probably be a shell of itself during this time

Cool ignorant flex bruh

[Rallydrv]

going to work is an event for me. they are more than 250 people working here. i am assuming its canceled. :lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Surprised nobody has posted the "TRUDEAU IS THE REAL VIRUS" meme in here FailFish

Fucking internet....
Literally saw that on facebook LUL

Couple of my high school buddies are hardcore right wingers, and I can't believe how much they hate the guy. They also love guns for some reason, and will post about guns a lot. Oh and this virus is a "hoax". These are Canadians mind you.

Although so many of their memes put him in sexually suggestive poses, photoshop him into gay pride outfits... I'm sure there is some deep down confusing thoughts that me be what is causing these issues for them LUL

White people :fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

Disneyland is closed from Saturday on (think I read someone was planning on going here)
Yeah here he is (excuse the new facebook design, I just opened the page and haven't turned it off yet)

https://i.imgur.com/HjrIWMQ.png

That grammar :heckno: maybe I was wrong about this guy DansGame

[SkinnyPupp]

Holding China accountable for literally being an incubator of terrible diseases (why do they all come from china anyways) is racist and we're better then that, right? So get sick and die, but at least you're not making chinese peoples feelings hurt. Their practises have now affected the world and there is death and financial losses and untold other problems. China should be held financially responsible.
If you don't see how this is racist, you don't belong here. Please stop posting this shit or you'll be removed from the thread. No place for it here

[SkinnyPupp]

https://i.imgur.com/Ifks7ZB.jpg

Taiwan doesn't even show up since they only had 49 cases LUL

[Amuse]

BREAKING: B.C. is recommending against all travel outside of Canada, including the U.S. Anyone who travels outside of the country will be required to stay home from work and school for 14 days. https://t.co/t3pRiJkGvy
How about going to the border at Blaine to pick up parcels and coming back?

[Liquid_o2]

I was supposed to go to Louisiana and then Atlanta next week for work. Got my travel agent to cancel flights. No change fees and credit applied to my account from United and Delta.

Wife is happy I'm staying home.

[Badhobz]

Holding China accountable for literally being an incubator of terrible diseases (why do they all come from china anyways) is racist and we're better then that, right? So get sick and die, but at least you're not making chinese peoples feelings hurt. Their practises have now affected the world and there is death and financial losses and untold other problems. China should be held financially responsible.

youre such a fucking idiot. you gonna go sue Africa for AIDS then retard? this is a natural occurrence in the world. it just happened to happen in China. Chinese people didnt invent this shit, its a mutation of a strain of viruses thats been around for as long as there has been people on this planet.

Fuck you.

[Mikoyan]

How about going to the border at Blaine to pick up parcels and coming back?


Apparently they don't want people doing that either

"That means no milk runs to Bellingham [in Washington state]," Health Minister Adrian Dix told a news conference.

[HonestTea]

DISNEYWORLD is closed now

[JSALES]

My flight is a 4 PM today... i got notification at 2:00 PM the course i'm about to take in alberta is cancelled. I was told to NOT go to calgary due to covid19 as they didn't wnat 100 + people in a room.

i had to forgo my ticket at air canada cause expedia + Westjet + aircanada... told me there is a 206 minute wait... wtffff

it's best to just go to rlight counter caues email and calls ain't working....


was told to isolate ifyou fly from US back to Canada; new was released recently... still need to be fact checked.

I’m guessing you booked all your flights with Expedia? I made the same mistake and I’ll probably never use a third party again, I’ve been trying to get a hold of Expedia for 2 days now and no luck

[belka]

youre such a fucking idiot. you gonna go sue Africa for AIDS then retard? this is a natural occurrence in the world. it just happened to happen in China. Chinese people didnt invent this shit, its a mutation of a strain of viruses thats been around for as long as there has been people on this planet.

Fuck you.

Eat a dick fuckwit. :lol Both SARS and COVID-19 started in the same area of China's medeival wet markets. Every country should be accountable to their own people for the spread of this or any virus. I guess unsanitary open air animal markets are natural occurances right? :lol

[Manic!]

Eat a dick fuckwit. :lol Both SARS and COVID-19 started in the same area of China's medeival wet markets. Every country should be accountable to their own people for the spread of this or any virus. I guess unsanitary open air animal markets are natural occurances right? :lol

Maybe natives should sue white people for all the diseases they brought to North America.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/b-c-health-officials-discourage-travel-outside-canada-ban-events-larger-than-250-people-1.4850903

14-day quarantine for anyone who travels abroad. I'm guessing that includes the states?

[Teriyaki]

For those look to buy facial mask wal mart online have them in stock now.

Was curious about inventory levels and this is what I got. Since when did Walmart.ca become like Aliexpress and Wish.com? What is this?:heckno:

https://i.imgur.com/4KgX1H3.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Eat a dick fuckwit. :lol Both SARS and COVID-19 started in the same area of China's medeival wet markets. Every country should be accountable to their own people for the spread of this or any virus. I guess unsanitary open air animal markets are natural occurances right? :lol
Ain't nobody got time for this shitty attitude. Racism, name calling.. take that shit to reddit. :gay:

[StylinRed]

How about going to the border at Blaine to pick up parcels and coming back?

That too, they said no more milk/gas runs to blaineWas curious about inventory levels and this is what I got. Since when did Walmart.ca become like Aliexpress and Wish.com? What is this?:heckno:

https://i.imgur.com/4KgX1H3.jpg

To compete with Amazon they've allowed private sellers, so ya, don't look online for masks

Pharmacies, ull have to ask, they may or may not have inventory, and may not sell to you

Medical supply store prolly Ur best bet

[Hondaracer]

“This couple has made more than $100,000 reselling Lysol wipes”

https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/canada/2020/03/12/were-hustlers-amid-coronavirus-fears-this-couple-has-made-more-than-100000-reselling-lysol-wipes.html?__twitter_impression=true

[SkinnyPupp]

Why Wearing a Face Mask Is Encouraged in Asia, but Shunned in the U.S. (https://time.com/5799964/coronavirus-face-mask-asia-us/)

You guys better hope the mask trend picks up in North America (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/mar/12/coronavirus-most-infections-spread-by-people-yet-to-show-symptoms-scientists). I know the experts say don't bother, but they've never seen a disease like this.

I predict that they will change their recommendations eventually. It might be delayed due to the fact that there's just not enough to go around, and telling people to wear masks when they can't get one would cause panic. Taiwan can make 10M a day, but aren't exporting them. US and Canada should be on their knees begging them for masks.

[UnknownJinX]

Eat a dick fuckwit. [emoji38] Both SARS and COVID-19 started in the same area of China's medeival wet markets. Every country should be accountable to their own people for the spread of this or any virus. I guess unsanitary open air animal markets are natural occurances right? [emoji38]

No government or force in the world can stop this kind of stuff, period. That's like taking down the Dark Web completely. There is very little anyone can do for this kind of illegal market. We can keep busting them and keep them in check, but completely eliminating it? Never going to happen.

About the only people who enjoy doing this kind of stuff are either rich or social media attention seekers, and both of them will go great length to do anything they want in any culture. If you wish to change their beliefs, be my guest.

[Mikoyan]

Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau tests positive for COVID-19

[SkinnyPupp]

Millions of masks stockpiled in Canada's Ontario expired before coronavirus hit (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-canada-supplies-ex/exclusive-millions-of-masks-stockpiled-in-canadas-ontario-expired-before-coronavirus-hit-idUSKBN20W2OG)

[SkinnyPupp]

Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau tests positive for COVID-19
Source (https://globalnews.ca/news/6670203/sophie-gregoire-trudeau-coronavirus-positive/) for those wondering

[StylinRed]

F1 in Melbourne cancelled finally, after Mercedes sent a letter to the FIA saying they're out
Vettel n Raikkonen had already flown back to Europe

[Mikoyan]

Millions of masks stockpiled in Canada's Ontario expired before coronavirus hit (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-canada-supplies-ex/exclusive-millions-of-masks-stockpiled-in-canadas-ontario-expired-before-coronavirus-hit-idUSKBN20W2OG)

Yeah. Great planning. Budget to store it, but no plan to rotate and replace stock.

[Ludepower]

How come were not banning all international and domestic travel.

Shutdown the country for a month and give everyone employment insurance.

We have a small window to stay on top of this. What is the government waiting for.

[nsmb]

BREAKING: B.C. is recommending against all travel outside of Canada, including the U.S. Anyone who travels outside of the country will be required to stay home from work and school for 14 days. https://t.co/t3pRiJkGvy


How about going to the border at Blaine to pick up parcels and coming back?

I just came back through nexus lines at pacific crossing.

USA just asked me where i was going and if i had anything to declare.

CANADA asked me to declare items, and if i was out of North America in the last 14 days and if i was feeling sick.

They mentioned nothing about self quarantine.

[SkinnyPupp]

I just came back through nexus lines at pacific crossing.

USA just asked me where i was going and if i had anything to declare.

CANADA asked me to declare items, and if i was out of North America in the last 14 days and if i was feeling sick.

They mentioned nothing about self quarantine.
It all seems to be suggestion, reading that article.

Also not closing schools because kids can go to school to learn about social distancing? :seriously:

Closing schools should be literally the first thing you do, even before any border controls. Kids are walking petri dishes LUL

[twitchyzero]

nexus lane into canada was asking about hand washing habits yesterday

[T4RAWR]

Seems serious enough that they're considering reinstating retired doctors....


Not forcing them but asking nicely.



https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/retired-doctors-coronavirus



BC asks retired doctors to help if local coronavirus cases reach crisis
Megan Devlin

Mar 12 2020, 2:50 pm


The College of Physicians and Surgeons of BC is asking recently retired doctors if they’d consider re-instating their qualifications to ease the strain on the health care system if the local COVID-19 outbreak worsens.

“This is the first time in my three-and-a-bit decades [in medicine] that anything like this has ever happened,” said Dr. Heidi Oetter, registrar with the college.

The move follows a request from Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry to use a mechanism called emergency registration, which enables BC to register physicians from other parts of the country in times of crisis.



But other provinces are also dealing with the coronavirus pandemic, which is why the college is reaching out to BC’s own retired doctors, Oetter explained.

“We said hm, we don’t think there’s terribly many doctors in other provinces being underemployed,” she said.

The college is emailing all BC doctors who retired within the last two years. Already, Oetter said there’s been interest.

She was clear the college is asking physicians, not demanding they come back. Because many retired physicians are older, she said it’s important they do “their own risk assessment.”

[RRxtar]

Source (https://globalnews.ca/news/6670203/sophie-gregoire-trudeau-coronavirus-positive/) for those wondering

2 months of "there's no concern for Canadians and the risk is extremely low" and doing nothing to slow the importation of the virus like the rest of the modern countries in the world and now and trudeau most likely has it but is choosing to not be tested. Great fucking leadership.

[SkinnyPupp]

2 months of "there's no concern for Canadians and the risk is extremely low" and doing nothing to slow the importation of the virus like the rest of the modern countries in the world and now and trudeau most likely has it but is choosing to not be tested. Great fucking leadership.
If he's saying he's not getting tested, that goes against absolutely everything we know about this virus. MOST PEOPLE who got the virus, got it from someone who wasn't even sick (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/mar/12/coronavirus-most-infections-spread-by-people-yet-to-show-symptoms-scientists).

Even if they hadn't fucked or kissed or even held hands, they've been breathing the same air for all this time. No it's not airborne, but even a drop of spit when you're talking can spread it.

My theory is that they want to keep it on the down low to not spread panic. The idea of an actual world leader getting this virus will shake a lot of people.

[BIC_BAWS]

nexus lane into canada was asking about hand washing habits yesterdayYeah I got asked if I'm experiencing any flu symptoms. I think US travel is not recommended, and 14 day quarantine is required, but how are they going to enforce that.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

[anxiety]

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[SkinnyPupp]

I legit LOL'd

[threezero]

2 months of "there's no concern for Canadians and the risk is extremely low" and doing nothing to slow the importation of the virus like the rest of the modern countries in the world and now and trudeau most likely has it but is choosing to not be tested. Great fucking leadership.

I am sorry where and when did JT say he is not getting tested? His wife went for testing immediately when she show symptoms. And JT self quarantine himself before the test result even came back.

Source?

[welfare]

US fed pumping $1.5 trillion into the repo market.
Wall street took a swig then spit it out like lukewarm water.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/03/12/fed-injects-15-trillion-to-prop-up-crashing-markets/#69525f3c6adb

[RRxtar]

I am sorry where and when did JT say he is not getting tested? His wife went for testing immediately when she show symptoms. And JT self quarantine himself before the test result even came back.

Source?

The sauce was in the sauce I quoted lol

“Also on the advice of doctors, he will not be tested at this stage since he has no symptoms. For the same reason, doctors say there is no risk to those who have been in contact with him recently.”



Seriously what in the fuck. No risk to those who have been in contact with him? So his wife is positive, he's asymptomatic, which means he's probably contagious, but no one around him is at risk? Is anyone paying attention?

[SkinnyPupp]

US fed pumping $1.5 trillion into the repo market.
Wall street took a swig then spit it out like lukewarm water.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/03/12/fed-injects-15-trillion-to-prop-up-crashing-markets/#69525f3c6adb
There's your free medical care right there LUL

[twitchyzero]

Justin Trudeau, everybody.

[subordinate]

Gotta say, this all feels so surreal

[Hondaracer]

It all seems to be suggestion, reading that article.

Also not closing schools because kids can go to school to learn about social distancing? :seriously:

Closing schools should be literally the first thing you do, even before any border controls. Kids are walking petri dishes LUL

The guy on Joe Rogan said closing schools especially considering children are seemingly somewhat uneffected by this could be a massive additional strain in the healthcare system as 35% or more of Nurses and other healthcare workers have school aged children? Can’t remember if he said single parents or not

[SkinnyPupp]

The guy on Joe Rogan said closing schools especially considering children are seemingly somewhat uneffected by this could be a massive additional strain in the healthcare system as 35% or more of Nurses and other healthcare workers have school aged children? Can’t remember if he said single parents or not
He mentioned the single mothers thing, kind of weird. But he went on to talk about how many diseases are spread through schools which end up infecting their parents, and going from there. Kids are almost always asymptomatic, but the key is to lower the amount of large crowds so of course you cancel school.

It's the first thing they did in HK, in fact schools are still closed and have been since January (although international schools are opening up).

Not just that, but the suggestion that kids go into HUGE SOCIAL GATHERINGS to learn about SOCIAL DISTANCING... like... WHAT????? :fulloffuck:

[spoon.ek9]

The sauce was in the sauce I quoted lol

“Also on the advice of doctors, he will not be tested at this stage since he has no symptoms. For the same reason, doctors say there is no risk to those who have been in contact with him recently.”



Seriously what in the fuck. No risk to those who have been in contact with him? So his wife is positive, he's asymptomatic, which means he's probably contagious, but no one around him is at risk? Is anyone paying attention?

I hope the media calls out this bullshit at the next press conference. obviously there's a high chance that he's positive as well. If anything, this is probably the PR department thinking it's better to just say he's being quarantined than admitting he has the virus. In reality, it would be better for the public's trust in our system if he were to get tested and come back with a negative.

[Hondaracer]

He mentioned the single mothers thing, kind of weird. But he went on to talk about how many diseases are spread through schools which end up infecting their parents, and going from there. Kids are almost always asymptomatic, but the key is to lower the amount of large crowds so of course you cancel school.

It's the first thing they did in HK, in fact schools are still closed and have been since January (although international schools are opening up).

Not just that, but the suggestion that kids go into HUGE SOCIAL GATHERINGS to learn about SOCIAL DISTANCING... like... WHAT????? :fulloffuck:

In B.C. at least, 2 week spring break starts Tom anyways

[SkinnyPupp]

In B.C. at least, 2 week spring break starts Tom anyways
That's actually really lucky, it will be easier to simply extend it since kids are already out of school. It was the same situation here with chinese new year.

Things will be much clearer to these clowns in 2 weeks I think

[Rallydrv]

So what's situation like down under. If this is supposed to get better with warmer weather. Australia should be doing well with coronavirus.

Tom hanks might think otherwise

[underscore]

BREAKING: B.C. is recommending against all travel outside of Canada, including the U.S. Anyone who travels outside of the country will be required to stay home from work and school for 14 days. https://t.co/t3pRiJkGvy

I'm curious how long til they shut down domestic travel. I'm supposed to go to Sask for work in a week and a bit. I'm seriously considering driving out if they don't cancel it altogether.

[welfare]

I hope the media calls out this bullshit at the next press conference. obviously there's a high chance that he's positive as well. If anything, this is probably the PR department thinking it's better to just say he's being quarantined than admitting he has the virus. In reality, it would be better for the public's trust in our system if he were to get tested and come back with a negative.

I assume the issue is if he tests positive, his whole cabinet will likely need to be tested. And if they test positive, well...

[SkinnyPupp]

I think it's because he's showing what the proper procedure is if you get sick. Since they can't test everyone who is asymptomatic yet, the right thing to do is isolate yourself if you get sick or are in contact with someone who got sick, and go from there.

Don't go to the hospital unless you have problems.

Like everyone says, for most young healthy people, this is a minor thing. Going out to confirm a test just puts you in public needlessly. Honestly it doesn't matter if you have it or not, if you have symptoms, quarantine yourself for 2 weeks.

[welfare]

I think it's because he's showing what the proper procedure is if you get sick. Since they can't test everyone who is asymptomatic yet, the right thing to do is isolate yourself if you get sick or are in contact with someone who got sick, and go from there.

Don't go to the hospital unless you have problems.

Like everyone says, for most young healthy people, this is a minor thing. Going out to confirm a test just puts you in public needlessly. Honestly it doesn't matter if you have it or not, if you have symptoms, quarantine yourself for 2 weeks.

But it can spread asymptomatically.

[SkinnyPupp]

But it can spread asymptomatically.
Yup that's why he's been self isolating since she got sick

This is the procedure for most normal people. The PM himself obviously should get tested regardless. So he's kind of doing it "wrong" by setting the "right" example

[welfare]

If he tests positive,he may have been spreading it to those he's come into contact with.
Isn't that quite likely?

[eclipseman]

Interesting tweet/analysis my wife sent me...

https://twitter.com/JeromeRoos/status/1236729011889418246

https://twitter.com/JeromeRoos/status/1236733607902937089

[SkinnyPupp]

If he tests positive,he may have been spreading it to those he's come into contact with.
Isn't that quite likely?
Yes that's why he's self isolating!

As for that map above, I think a lot of it is "correlation does not mean causation" and the spread is more related to travel trends than anything else.

Too early to tell if temperature has a significant effect

[welfare]

Yes that's why he's self isolating!


Ok, maybe I'm not being clear.
If you were in contact with someone, probably on multiple occasions, whose wife tested positive, wouldn't you want the husband, who you'd been in contact with, probably on multiple occasions, to be tested in order to know if you had anything to worry about?
Regardless of whether or not he's symptomatic?
Does that not seem like it would be the responsible thing to do?

[SkinnyPupp]

Ok, maybe I'm not being clear.
If you were in contact with someone, probably on multiple occasions, whose wife tested positive, wouldn't you want the husband, who you'd been in contact with, probably on multiple occasions, to be tested in order to know if you had anything to worry about?
Regardless of whether or not he's symptomatic?
Does that not seem like it would be the responsible thing to do?
Yeah like I said in his specific case, he should be tested publicly

For the general public - for now since testing is not being done on a large enough scale - it's better to just self isolate unless you actually get sick. We don't want to overburden the hospitals

However the best option is what Korea is doing, just flood the population with testing. They have drive-thru testing!

They should be working on getting that done, so they can really nail down who needs to be quarantined and who doesn't

[welfare]

Yeah like I said in his specific case, he should be tested publicly

For the general public - for now since testing is not being done on a large enough scale - it's better to just self isolate unless you actually get sick. We don't want to overburden the hospitals

However the best option is what Korea is doing, just flood the population with testing. They have drive-thru testing!

They should be working on getting that done, so they can really nail down who needs to be quarantined and who doesn't

Well, i think you may have more faith in people's judgment to self isolate than i do.

We're at 150 now. Was 100 this morning.

[tegra7]

Interesting tweet/analysis my wife sent me...




:heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

Well, i think you may have more faith in people's judgment to self isolate than i do.

We're at 150 now. Was 100 this morning.
It's not that I have faith, it's that it's the best solution currently available. Based on the ignorance on display here and other places I've seen, there really is not much we can do from preventing a catastrophe. Just ride it out and hope we come out on the other end OK.

150 now, expect it to be 300 in 4 days, 600 by next week. And so on...

[welfare]

This is how unprepared Canada is. They're basically repelling people from being tested.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6668233/public-health-wait-times-coronavirus/

[striderblade]

Just shut the city down for a month. Let the people know so we have time to stock up. No flying out or flying in. Clearly our situation is not improving. Just look at how fast the virus spread in Italy. We are already suck at preparing for winter. This can't get any worst than that. Do we really need to have 1000 ppl die from this to take it seriously. People have family kids. It's it worth it for people to go to work and risk that 18 dollars for this? Everyday there is a new case. We really need to wait for the government to take action? This is life and death situation here. Trudeau wife is tested positive bet he's kicking his own ass atm.

[J____]

2 months of criticizing the Chinese government for not acting swiftly, and also laughing at those that wear masks, it's now our turn to see how quickly out of hand this virus can get. Word of advise is not to listen to the gov/docs and over protect ourselves. They really don't know what they're talking about and unfortunately, didn't learn from China's mistakes. If shit really gets out of control, no way we can contain it quickly like China did because we have some bs human rights crap and can't quarantine 5 million people. Protect yourselves people, this stuff gets out of hand very quickly and spreads like gonorrhea through Olympic village.

[SkinnyPupp]

Notes from UCSF Expert panel - March 10 (https://www.linkedin.com/content-guest/article/notes-from-ucsf-expert-panel-march-10-dr-jordan-shlain-m-d-/)

Panelists
Joe DeRisi: UCSF’s top infectious disease researcher. Co-president of ChanZuckerberg BioHub (a JV involving UCSF / Berkeley / Stanford). Co-inventor of the chip used in SARS epidemic.

Emily Crawford: COVID task force director. Focused on diagnostics

Cristina Tato: Rapid Response Director. Immunologist.

Patrick Ayescue: Leading outbreak response and surveillance. Epidemiologist.

Chaz Langelier: UCSF Infectious Disease doc

This mostly goes over the stuff we've been saying here. Their estimates are much less optimistic than the guy on Joe Rogan. They say 12 months, and 40-70% of the population in the US will be infected (he said 96 million infected, this is more like 120-210 million).

Using 1% mortality rate, that's around 1.2-2.1 million deaths (the guy on Rogan said 460K). The guy on Sam Harris' second virus show said 0.6%, but I don't know what he's basing that on. Korea has the lowest rate, and they are at 0.88%.

The post does go into details on why testing capacity will not be good enough to be really useful, and going in for tests isn't something we should worry about right now.

Currently, there is no way to determine what a person has other than a PCR test. No other test can yet distinguish "COVID-19 from flu or from the other dozen respiratory bugs that are circulating”.

The leading clinical lab firms, Quest and Labcore have capacity to process 1000 kits per day. For the nation.

UCSF and UCBerkeley have donated their research labs to process kits. But each has capacity to process only 20-40 kits per day. And are not clinically certified.

Novel test methods are on the horizon, but not here now and won’t be at any scale to be useful for the present danger.

Right now the #1 thing is: don't go into crowded places. Don't go to the hospital unless you have respiratory or cardiac issues. There is NOTHING the hospital can do for you that you can't do at home if you don't have these issues.

This is for the people who are looking for facts from experts. Not some clown on TV telling you to "live your life".

[Manic!]

This is how unprepared Canada is. They're basically repelling people from being tested.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6668233/public-health-wait-times-coronavirus/

Even worse in the US.

https://time.com/5801790/coronavirus-testing-us/

Also, you have a lot of paranoid people that want to be tested but don't need to be tested and just end up taking up resources.

[welfare]

Even worse in the US.

https://time.com/5801790/coronavirus-testing-us/

Also, you have a lot of paranoid people that want to be tested but don't need to be tested and just end up taking up resources.

Without thorough testing, you can not accurately monitor the situation.
If you look at countries that have leveled the curve, they've either promptly introduced rigorous testing, or shutdown necessary travel entirely. Sometimes both.
Canada has done neither.

[Ludepower]

Are we waiting for more casualties? Our prime minister wife has it for fuck sakes.

No work, no school, no public gathering for a month and give every citizen $2000.

Lets go full Italy mode right now. Shutdown the whole country and close our borders except for trade. Its inevitable anyways.

Extraordinary measure for extraordinary times.

[Badhobz]

Agreed. This is getting out of hand.

I feel the worst for our frontline heath care providers.

Anyone else surprised as hell about Richmond not having a case so far ?!? I know the Chinese populace here are extra paranoid but I think it kind of works.

[SkinnyPupp]

Without thorough testing, you can not accurately monitor the situation.
If you look at countries that have leveled the curve, they've either promptly introduced rigorous testing, or shutdown necessary travel entirely. Sometimes both.
Canada has done neither.
Korea's measures were much more drastic than just doing a lot of testing, although that was part of it. The main thing they were able to do was precisely track practically everyone who got it, and made sure anyone who may have come into contact would be notified to be tested and quarantined if necessary.

So for instance if someone at your gym got it, you would have no way to know. But in Korea, you'd get a notification on your phone. From there, you self isolate, and they come test you to see if you need to be quarantined.

Civic complicity was a part of why this is effective. Take a look at this very thread and think, will Canadians be as complicit? Or Americans for that matter?

Very drastic, not as draconian as China or Italy. Seems to have been effective in slowing the wave, but it is kind of too early to be sure. They are starting to get people testing positive in Seoul, and of course if their borders are open to travel, incoming infected is inevitable.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Are we waiting for more casualties? Our prime minister wife has it for fuck sakes.

No work, no school, no public gathering for a month and give every citizen $2000.

Lets go full Italy mode right now. Shutdown the whole country and close our borders except for trade. Its inevitable anyways.

Extraordinary measure for extraordinary times.

Well some people make more than 2k. I say make your wage. Honestly though I don't really feel scare. Wash my hands more often than before, always wipe my hands with wet ones if I want to touch my face of rub my eyes. Nothing have really change, I still go out for dinner, parks. Maybe coz I live near Coquitlam center and generally there isn't much people out anyways. I also work early at 7am so again not much people is out at that time.

I did however avoid going to more crowded place like metrotown and DT.

[RiceIntegraRS]

You'd be surprised at how many people still have the mentality of "just live your life" over the mentality of "being safe than sorry". Its very mind boggling to see and it's the reason why this is only going to get worse. But I'm not even the least bit surprised that people are acting like they are invincible, privileged, entitled to life that they cant even be inconvenienced for a day, a week, let alone a month. People just need to learn the hard way.

[Mr.HappySilp]

You'd be surprised at how many people still have the mentality of "just live your life" over the mentality of "being safe than sorry". Its very mind boggling to see and it's the reason why this is only going to get worse. But I'm not even the least bit surprised that people are acting like they are invincible, privileged, entitled to life that they cant even be inconvenienced for a day, a week, let alone a month. People just need to learn the hard way.

I think it also have to do with the Canada Gov keep saying the risk is low. I understand they want to keep everyone from freaking out but at the same time they should tell people to prepare.

[RRxtar]

Handing out $2k to everyone does fuck all when all the small businesses go bankrupt because they can't work and make their financing, credit, mortgage, loan, lease, rent payments. Not everyone works in an office.

[twdm]

This thread has officially become a circle-jerk of doomsday cultists. Ahhhh people dropping dead left and right. Ahhhhh!! Please do stay at home. Don't wait for the government. Quit your jobs, take your kids out of schools, buy 3 months worth of toilet paper and other supplies, board up your houses and get the shotgun ready to repel us coronavirus zombies. Better safe than sorry.

By the prediction of all the experts here, since the pandemic is uncontrolled, we should estimate 4% of the world's population will die. Wow. 300 billion people dead this year. Amazing.

I have some high-grade anti-coronavirus plastic bottle helmets to sell to you guys if you're interested. Bottled air from the swiss alps free of coronavirus as well. Shit I should start a company selling this shit to the chinese.

[J____]

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/special-report-italy-and-south-korea-virus-outbreaks-reveal-disparity-in-deaths-and-tactics/

Here's a good article, compares how Korea and Italy responded differently in the early stages of their epidemic. Korea was locking down shit and testing while Italians were chilling and going out with friends. Now see the difference in infected and deaths between the 2 countries. Don't take the early stages lightly, better to be laughed at by people by wearing masks than regretting it in the hospital.

[J____]

This thread has officially become a circle-jerk of doomsday cultists. Ahhhh people dropping dead left and right. Ahhhhh!! Please do stay at home. Don't wait for the government. Quit your jobs, take your kids out of schools, buy 3 months worth of toilet paper and other supplies, board up your houses and get the shotgun ready to repel us coronavirus zombies. Better safe than sorry.

By the prediction of all the experts here, since the pandemic is uncontrolled, we should estimate 4% of the world's population will die. Wow. 300 billion people dead this year. Amazing.

I have some high-grade anti-coronavirus plastic bottle helmets to sell to you guys if you're interested. Bottled air from the swiss alps free of coronavirus as well. Shit I should start a company selling this shit to the chinese.

China's probably the safest country right now next to North Korea. NK just executes anyone with the virus ��

But seriously though, I'm not saying panic and lock yourself in a cage for the next month but don't take this lightly. I'm living in Shanghai and during the early stages of the virus here after Wuhan was quarantined, Shanghai closed everything and the citizens here literally locked themselves home overnight, only going out to buy groceries with masks. At the same time, people in Guangzhou didnt give a crap and went out to socialize without any precautionary measures or masks. 2 weeks later Guangzhou was massively hit with confirmed cases and the province was in chaos, Shanghai's situation was barely any worse.

The problem with this virus and what makes is spread so quickly is you can literally have no symptoms and still be highly contagious. You don't need to sneeze or touch someone, there's a chance to transmit it by talking to someone since the majority of people spray saliva when they talk.

Believe what you will, it's only your own and your families lives in hand.

Of course the government doesn't tell you it's serious since the last thing they want is an entire country to panic and riot.

Funny thing is, the situation now in the west is just like how it was in China in December, while back then everyone was criticizing China for hiding the real situation and people not taking it seriously causing the cases to escalate so quickly. Now the exact same thing is happening in the west and no one is giving a shit lol.

The reason Italy got so bad was because no one gave a shit in the beginning until it was so wide spread that the medical team and government couldn't contain it.

[pastarocket]

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/13/feds-announce-flight-restrictions-cruise-ship-ban-amid-covid-19-outbreak/

New restrictions for flights and cruises.


Flight restrictions will mean aircraft flying into Canada from overseas will be limited to a smaller number of airports

Cruise ships carrying more than 500 people will be banned from docking at Canadian ports until July

[Ludepower]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-covid-19-1.5496367

Trudeau contemplating closing the borders. Looks like were headed towards that direction...as predicted.

[320icar]

Agreed. This is getting out of hand.

I feel the worst for our frontline heath care providers.

Anyone else surprised as hell about Richmond not having a case so far ?!? I know the Chinese populace here are extra paranoid but I think it kind of works.

A coworker brought that up to me the other day actually. Within 24h of the news breaking? 80% of people had masks on. Sold out of them as well as sanitizer and wipes etc. Response was swift and immediate.

Look at Washington. Maybe they’re just ignorant to “the plight of the chinese” but a lack of response and thinking it isn’t important has screwed then.

[320icar]

Right now the #1 thing is: don't go into crowded places. Don't go to the hospital unless you have respiratory or cardiac issues. There is NOTHING the hospital can do for you that you can't do at home if you don't have these issues.

I work everyday in an extremely crowded place, and I’m at the hospital once a fortnight because of my preggo wife...

[blkgsr]

looks like my trip to mexico on April 8th isn't gonna happen.....

[J____]

to lighten the scene a bit, I thought this was pretty funny

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89600684_10221138595919121_7577192603662155776_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=WnxyHqb-wAoAX8ON04H&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=05b1d5f5007e1fe4c459ae7a8cf84ef7&oe=5E909D86

[Euro7r]

How's the groceries stores like locally? I haven't done grocery shopping in 2 weeks, so I need to go this weekend (not because of the panic mode/hoarding frenzy). I heard it's busy, so just trying think it's probably best to go right before closing or right when it literally opens to avoid "crowd".

[Fafine]

Went superstore at 1015 last night was still busy
Maybe early morning when they first open won't be as busy

[Euro7r]

Went superstore at 1015 last night was still busy
Maybe early morning when they first open won't be as busy

Gonna go 6-7am tomorrow in that case, how many willing to get up that early on a Saturday lol :fuckyea:

[Mr.HappySilp]

Gonna go 6-7am tomorrow in that case, how many willing to get up that early on a Saturday lol :fuckyea:

Wal mart, T and T and superstore seems to be pretty quiet on weekdays after work. So I don't think you need to worry. But then I live in Coq center and usually there are less people around.

[MG1]

Holy shit. I’m at the Superstore in Coquitlam. There’s no parking spots left. Overflow parking lot is overflowing. I had to fight off assholes in their ICE vehicles so I could charge. Never seen it this busy. This location does have good stock on things that are sold out at other locations.

[SoNaRWaVe]

pc express and pick up to avoid all that line. but produce is 50/50 depending on who puts your order together.

[RiceIntegraRS]

I was at the surrey walmart yesterday around noon and it wasnt busy at all. They limited Tp 2 per family

[winson604]

So apparently baby wipes and kleenex are the thing now. Even on amazon both are sold out

[Hondaracer]

So apparently baby wipes and kleenex are the thing now. Even on amazon both are sold out

Yea, clowns last night at Costco we’re buying 20+ boxes of Kleenex at a time, saw one guy with 4 air purifiers as well :rukidding:

[B!tch]

Still Creek Costco was a shit show this morning. Well the parking lot was. Triple parked, abandoned cars and crazies. I have NEVER seen it like that.

[Badhobz]

So if you get it, and survive it, are you immune afterwards ?

[Mr.HappySilp]

So if you get it, and survive it, are you immune afterwards ?

There have been reports even after you get it, cure you can still get it.

[Euro7r]

Don't quite get why people are hoarding toilet paper and kleenex, is that supposed to prevent virus or cure it? LOL

[CorneringArtist]

People be forgetting that bidets exist.

[vitaminG]

^ stores still have lots of depends in stock

[Simplex123]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-covid-19-1.5496367

Trudeau contemplating closing the borders. Looks like were headed towards that direction...as predicted.

I guess I will need to head to Blaine to pick up my package tonight in case it happens any time soon....

[Manic!]

Nanaimo Costco this morning.

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89031795_2940381646000688_2705774386538872832_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=xornqZUHk4sAX-QEEvz&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=ae911374b63f5400f0134f8b874e18e3&oe=5E9347A9

[Hondaracer]

Costco at still creek was fine last night at 4pm

[winson604]

Don't quite get why people are hoarding toilet paper and kleenex, is that supposed to prevent virus or cure it? LOL

I think the kleenex thing is more because TP is harder to buy so the next best thing for them is kleenex

I think the TP thing though mainly started as fear buying, as humans go we see everyone doing something and you get peer pressured into doing the same. Also unlike food if there is no TP what's the alternative? You can argue well I'll use kleenex, or paper towels, or news paper but those are not really actual alternatives because you can't flush it. With say canned soup, if it's sold out well there's like hundreds of other food options available.

[Akinari]

Was in Richmond Walmart shortly after noon, nothing out of the ordinary, but definitely a little busier than what I would assume to be a normal Friday afternoon. Everything was well-stocked, no crazy lineups or anything either.

[Akinari]

People be forgetting that bidets exist.
I've been planning to buy one for years now, maybe I'll finally pull the trigger on one when I move this April/May. A good mid-tier Toto one is around $400 CAD. Easy to install, but the headache is how to create a power socket right behind the toilet without having to run a stupid extension cord all the way to the socket by the sink :derp: will definitely need an electrician to gimme a hand with that.

Woops double post lol.

[murd0c]

bought a bidet off amazon and it arrived today, fuck these idiots and their obsession with TP LOL

[mikemhg]

Fuck I hate people like this. Like ticket scalpers, fitting they're from Vancouver, of course. Trash people.

“This couple has made more than $100,000 reselling Lysol wipes”

https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/canada/2020/03/12/were-hustlers-amid-coronavirus-fears-this-couple-has-made-more-than-100000-reselling-lysol-wipes.html?__twitter_impression=true

[mikemhg]

Nanaimo Costco this morning.

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89031795_2940381646000688_2705774386538872832_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=xornqZUHk4sAX-QEEvz&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&oh=ae911374b63f5400f0134f8b874e18e3&oe=5E9347A9

My god people are hilarious.

Avoid social gatherings, and people are lining up in mass groups to shop @ Costco?

Jesus.

[Rallydrv]

selling Lysol, im sure CRA has made a note. plus fine for conducting business w/o a lic.. to say the least (if they dont already)

[blkgsr]

i hope people stop buying them and they get fucked with a garage full of product....but being costco they can just take it all back


also bum gun FTW......or a pot of water and your left hand

[Mr.HappySilp]

Was in Richmond Walmart shortly after noon, nothing out of the ordinary, but definitely a little busier than what I would assume to be a normal Friday afternoon. Everything was well-stocked, no crazy lineups or anything either.

Coquitlam center Wal Mart ran out of pasta. Last night there was still some left. Went again just now and literally all pasta gone, even the noodle section is looking more empty than usual. Most toilet papers, tissue and kitchen paper sold lot as well.

[CivicBlues]

Jesus...Costco people...I live in the WestEnd so my main options are expensive ass Safeway, Urban Fare, and Whole Foods. A bit crowded yesterday but nothing extreme. Apparently No Frills was a madhouse though.

Spend a little more on groceries, without the crowds!

[ilovebacon]

bought a bidet off amazon and it arrived today, fuck these idiots and their obsession with TP LOL

how does your asshole feel lol

[CivicBlues]

OK for those of you who purchased a cheap bidet off Amazon, did you have any issues installing it? I have a rigid copper pipe for a water supply to the toilet. I see examples of a hosed water supply being an easy install but not for what I have.

[underscore]

Who else thinks Italy is going to have a baby boom in 9-10 months?

[SkinnyPupp]

I've used a bidet many times, and to the people who consider it an alternative to TP, I have to wonder if they'd used one before... Like you still gotta wipe the shit first, and also you gotta dry your ass after :considered:

Bidets will never become a thing in Hong Kong, since the flush water in urban areas is sea water DansGame

[ilovebacon]

what's the point in buying bidet if I still have to wipe my ass...

[SkinnyPupp]

It gets it much cleaner. Especially if you got a shag carpet down there LUL

But baby wipes are just as good IMO

I definitely wouldn't consider a bidet as an alternative to TP. You still need to wipe!

[Mr.HappySilp]

3 cases of COVID-19 reported at Metro Vancouver hospital

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/3-cases-of-covid-19-reported-at-metro-vancouver-hospital-1.4852253

[Hondaracer]

OK for those of you who purchased a cheap bidet off Amazon, did you have any issues installing it? I have a rigid copper pipe for a water supply to the toilet. I see examples of a hosed water supply being an easy install but not for what I have.

Does yours not have an on/off valve behind the toilet?

If there is a threaded on/off valve you could remove that put a 3 way valve on there then just thread on whatever fitting you need for the bidet

May sound easier than it actually is though lol

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5shsQuauY

saving the environment and money :bigthumb:

[nabs]

What are the actual infected numbers in BC? Have they increased dramatically or are people just going into preservation mode?

[StylinRed]

11 new cases in bc today
https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/13/11-new-cases-of-covid-19-reported-in-b-c/

[Digitalis]

Lions gate... more Iranians is my bet.
3 cases of COVID-19 reported at Metro Vancouver hospital

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/3-cases-of-covid-19-reported-at-metro-vancouver-hospital-1.4852253

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwvZql6RToE

hate how this show sometimes predict things.

[ilovebacon]

What are the actual infected numbers in BC? Have they increased dramatically or are people just going into preservation mode?

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

British Columbia, Canada
Confirmed: 53
Deaths: 1
Recovered: 4
Active: 48

[threezero]

National Emergency sponsored by CVS/Walgreen/Target and other corporation named specifically by the orange man.

Trump is proposing working with private sector to provide drive by/walk in testing at corporate grocery store.

Instead of decalring a national emergency and telling everybody to hunker down and ride it out. He decides to prop up the stock market by naming his porfolios on the White house lawn.

So now when you go to store to stock up on TP, you get to be in a store full of sick people trying to get tested.

What a joke serious. Trump needs to pay for airtime if he is going to use public service annoucemenet as a commercial.

[CivicBlues]

I'm reading on reddit that there my be zero cases in the city of Vancouver. Possible but insanely unlikely. Could all Vancouver Coastal Health Region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Coastal_Health#/media/File:VVCH_Service_Area_Map.jpg) cases all be on the North Shore since Richmond also has zero cases (https://www.richmond-news.com/news/no-coronavirus-cases-diagnosed-in-richmond-yet-1.24094117)?

[nah]

Fuck I hate people like this. Like ticket scalpers, fitting they're from Vancouver, of course. Trash people.

Update to the story...

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.5496727/b-c-couple-confronted-at-costco-for-buying-bulk-lysol-wipes-to-re-sell-for-profit-1.5496733

[DaJo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5shsQuauY

saving the environment and money :bigthumb:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2580999368886880

[hud 91gt]

I've used a bidet many times, and to the people who consider it an alternative to TP, I have to wonder if they'd used one before... Like you still gotta wipe the shit first, and also you gotta dry your ass after :considered:

Bidets will never become a thing in Hong Kong, since the flush water in urban areas is sea water DansGame

Dude. The ones in Japan and Korea with adjustable pressure, water temp and blow dryer are literally a no hands operation. They are amazing.

[Rallydrv]

It gets it much cleaner. Especially if you got a shag carpet down there LUL

But baby wipes are just as good IMO

I definitely wouldn't consider a bidet as an alternative to TP. You still need to wipe!

don't know what kind of bidet u r using, u dont need to wipe first.FailFish
u do need some tp to dry, but some bidet has air function,


plus baby wipes and other alternatives arn't flushable, (even though they say they are). Cov is having lots of issues w/ them.

[SkinnyPupp]

Dude. The ones in Japan and Korea with adjustable pressure, water temp and blow dryer are literally a no hands operation. They are amazing.
I know! But have you tried it without ever wiping? Squirting that water onto a shitty ass and then trying to blow dry it? DansGame Also those dryers barely have any force, you'd have total swamp ass after.

I love them, but you absolutely need TP to go with them. Feel sorry for anyone who does your laundry if you don't wipe your ass before spraying water onto it LUL God forbid you wanna get your ass ate EleGiggle

[hud 91gt]

I’ve had some gross shits and never had an issue. Haha. Of course I
wiped because I’m North American and don’t trust this magic.

[Fafine]

Dude. The ones in Japan and Korea with adjustable pressure, water temp and blow dryer are literally a no hands operation. They are amazing.

It's the same everywhere, brondell or Toto at Costco has the same functions.

[6793026]

I've owned a bidet for 5 yrs. It's the best investment during a cold winter.

It's just a T you gotta attach to the water hose. Unless your toilet is some sort of fancy square shape, they all work. You do need to have a plug nearby so it stays warm and toasty.

Technically you don't need to wipe after IF you have the blower dry function which does take a good 2 minutes to dry.

[Rallydrv]

Have had Brondell swash in both my bathroom last 4 years.. Don't buy one that has remote senor on the side. My remote stopped working. Thr was a trickle leak from the water line cause cheap washer. And remote senor stopped working due to moisture. Then these asswipes want me to ship it back to them. Won't send me a sensor that just plugs into board via jumper. Side buttons still work. However not able to control water and seat temperature and pressure.

I did put in new washer.

[Qmx323]

I'm reading on reddit that there my be zero cases in the city of Vancouver. Possible but insanely unlikely. Could all Vancouver Coastal Health Region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Coastal_Health#/media/File:VVCH_Service_Area_Map.jpg) cases all be on the North Shore since Richmond also has zero cases (https://www.richmond-news.com/news/no-coronavirus-cases-diagnosed-in-richmond-yet-1.24094117)?

Or the sick ones in Richmond are just isolating at home, not going to get tested.

[punkwax]

My last house had a bidet.. lived there almost 5 years and didn’t use it once. Dunno.. my bunghole is a very private place and I don’t want a jet of water blasting it head on :lol

:denied:

[trd2343]

I understand SkinnyPupp and other's urgency regarding this coronavirus having think about it the past few days.

At the end of the day, whether it's worse or not as worse as the common flu (not having that debate here), why not be diligent in preventing this become a pandemic (already have), instead of adding this to the list of existing ones we already have? Won't the world be a better place regardless with one less pandemic?

I am reminded that common flu is a pandemic as well, no matter how I (and some) have downplayed it. It is still a serious disease, just that we don't have a way of eradicating it, and at least there's a vaccine for it. The number of deaths may be low in the grand scheme of things, but that's because we numerate these deaths. When we dissect each of these deaths, we will see that each of these death is from someone else's family.

I caught myself asking this, when this has passed, would I say, "thankfully, only x % of the people died from this virus", or "it is a tragedy that x % of these people died from this virus"? I hope I my natural response would be the latter, no matter how small the number is.

Finally, it's true that there are probably millions things in the world that can kill you, and many health condition that can kill as well, but having said all this again, won't it be better to have one less thing to worry about?

[Rallydrv]

I'm hoarding



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[J____]

So if you get it, and survive it, are you immune afterwards ?

No you can still transmit it to others as well as get it again.

[trd2343]

This thread has officially become a circle-jerk of doomsday cultists. Ahhhh people dropping dead left and right. Ahhhhh!! Please do stay at home. Don't wait for the government. Quit your jobs, take your kids out of schools, buy 3 months worth of toilet paper and other supplies, board up your houses and get the shotgun ready to repel us coronavirus zombies. Better safe than sorry.

By the prediction of all the experts here, since the pandemic is uncontrolled, we should estimate 4% of the world's population will die. Wow. 300 billion people dead this year. Amazing.

I have some high-grade anti-coronavirus plastic bottle helmets to sell to you guys if you're interested. Bottled air from the swiss alps free of coronavirus as well. Shit I should start a company selling this shit to the chinese.

No one here is suggesting to quit your jobs, buy 3 months worth of toilet paper, etc. if anything, most here has strongly recommending not panicking.

But I'm sitting here and just realized how easily this virus is spread. Why? As I'm typing this, I'm propping up my chin with my hand, while I have rubbed my nose and touched my face several times already. Now imagine trying to get old folks or young children to comply with this.

[nsmb]

OK for those of you who purchased a cheap bidet off Amazon, did you have any issues installing it? I have a rigid copper pipe for a water supply to the toilet. I see examples of a hosed water supply being an easy install but not for what I have.
you want to come off your sink with hot and cold for a bidet, you really dont want to be using ice cold water.
find a bidet with hot and cold ports. u can pm me, ill walk u through the install and parts to buy.

[whitev70r]

Can we move on from bidets, I think I've learned enough about it.

[Hondaracer]

I'm hoarding



31141

Me too

https://i.imgur.com/HvoAjqm.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

You guys need a bartender during these trying times? :fuckthatshit:

https://i.imgur.com/4bKSDfU.jpg

[i-vtecyo]

So according to Dr. Bonnie Henry, we health care providers do not need to self isolate for 14 days after travelling outside of Canada. Lets go get all our patients sick, who maybe immunocompromise and who also need us the most during this pandemic. Seems like they took action a bit too late and are desperate for health care workers now.

[hud 91gt]

Don’t worry, I got the same email... Exempt as I’m trained to be healthy. Ha.

[yray]

Bidets will never become a thing in Hong Kong, since the flush water in urban areas is sea water DansGame

lol bidets were already available in 1994 in hk

easier to install in hk as you can grab power from a wall outlet for the fan or water heater

[SkinnyPupp]

^^ Congrats?

Anyway, check out this amazing thread on how propaganda is happening. I know "everybody knows" what it is, but it's fascinating to study exactly how they're going about it.

It's a damn long thread but worth it

https://twitter.com/tombschrader/status/1238533601077198849

[StylinRed]

Wow went to save on foods, potatoes, onions, most other vegs, all gone.
Meat, poultry, all gone, although ground beef seems to be rare lately anyways.

The small Asian grocer on the corner? Full of veg, no one shopped there.

T&T coq cen? Out of instant noodles n noodles basically, and meats as well.

The organic store, Pomme? Fully stocked

Some lady in front of me was visibly ill though, and wasn't wearing a mask, started coughing too, she simply turned her head towards her child to cough, didn't cover her face... Works at a Coquitlam animal shelter/hospital..
What's worse is she took forever, trying to use some obscure store credit she has.

Girl working the till ended up disinfecting the checkout machine after she left, and apologized

[punkwax]

If you see anyone coughing without covering their mouth please say something. You don’t have to be rude about it but anyone who isn’t in the habit needs to change their ways pronto. If you’re reading this and thought of a friend or family member you know who is an open air cougher, do the world a favour and let them know it makes everyone around them uncomfortable. It can be downright disgusting too depending on the environment.

I saw a lady in my local Safeway hacking up a lung into the milk fridge as I was waiting to grab some myself. I figured screw the milk and left without saying any words to her but she definitely could tell I wasn’t impressed. If I could go back in time I’d say something but this was before the insanity began. From now on I’ll be sure to speak up.

My 5 y/o knows to cover his mouth ffs.

[SkinnyPupp]

Something I noticed when I go out lately is that I don't see ANYONE sick anymore. Not so much as a cough or a sniffle since this whole thing started. (though my wife was just at the tail end of a cold right when this started, but it was totally gone after a few more days)

My theory is it's a combination of less people out overall (although that's changed lately), schools being closes for 2 months, and I guess everyone taking greater precautions overall, wearing masks, washing hands more, etc.

I notice this, because if I saw someone coughing on the minibus, even before this, I would put on a mask to try to protect myself. I've gotten too many colds in that exact scenario too many times.

[ilovebacon]

Wow went to save on foods, potatoes, onions, most other vegs, all gone.
Meat, poultry, all gone, although ground beef seems to be rare lately anyways.

The small Asian grocer on the corner? Full of veg, no one shopped there.

T&T coq cen? Out of instant noodles n noodles basically, and meats as well.

The organic store, Pomme? Fully stocked

Some lady in front of me was visibly ill though, and wasn't wearing a mask, started coughing too, she simply turned her head towards her child to cough, didn't cover her face... Works at a Coquitlam animal shelter/hospital..
What's worse is she took forever, trying to use some obscure store credit she has.

Girl working the till ended up disinfecting the checkout machine after she left, and apologized

Time like these is to shop at unpopular local stores. like victoria drive, commercial drive, etc.

[SkinnyPupp]

Monday:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761

Friday:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238570595710836738

[BlackV62K2]

Bad timing for allergies to be hitting me hard.

[punkwax]

Something I noticed when I go out lately is that I don't see ANYONE sick anymore. Not so much as a cough or a sniffle since this whole thing started. (though my wife was just at the tail end of a cold right when this started, but it was totally gone after a few more days)

My theory is it's a combination of less people out overall (although that's changed lately), schools being closes for 2 months, and I guess everyone taking greater precautions overall, wearing masks, washing hands more, etc.

I notice this, because if I saw someone coughing on the minibus, even before this, I would put on a mask to try to protect myself. I've gotten too many colds in that exact scenario too many times.

I’ve had a cough for a few weeks now.. it just won’t go away. No COVID I actually got the fever test before I could enter a clients site the other day. Felt bad for the guy beside me on the plane today. He was ultra cautious, broke out the Lysol wipes ahead of takeoff and everything. Tried my damn best not to cough on the short 45 min flight from Kelowna to YVR but probably did 5-6 times into my sleeve and away from him. Was wondering what was going through his mind lol

There was a toddler in the row next to me coughing his ass off. A lady in the same row got westjet to provide her with sanitizing wipes. Everyone is ultra cautious at the moment, especially in airports and planes.

On a side note, my hands are brutally dry from the constant washing and sanitizer. Eczema sucks.

[Amuse]

Are there local hotels/inns being used to quarantine people?

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/q0o7g0uwijm41.png
https://i.redd.it/8aok7a6offm41.jpg

[Nlkko]

How about going to the border at Blaine to pick up parcels and coming back?

For what it worths: I was at Point Roberts this afternoon to pick up couple parcels.

Didn't get asked anything on US side.
On the Canadian side: 2 extra questions: "Were you away for more than 2 weeks internationally?" "Do you feel sick?"

That was it. I would imagine way stricter screening at airports.

[Amuse]

I don’t feel safe walking in Metrotown anymore. A lot of people wearing masks in the area.

HK, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea.. everyone on the street wears a mask.

How about places like Iran, Italy, Egypt?

Well you know the local people in Canada and USA don’t have a habit of wearing masks.

[Amuse]

For what it worths: I was at Point Roberts this afternoon to pick up couple parcels.

Didn't get asked anything on US side.
On the Canadian side: 2 extra questions: "Were you away for more than 2 weeks internationally?" "Do you feel sick?"

That was it. I would imagine way stricter screening at airports.

I went yesterday evening.

US guard: where I am going.
Canada guard: what did I pick up.

Do airport screening people wear ppe now? Like gloves and masks?

[SkinnyPupp]

I don’t feel safe walking in Metrotown anymore. A lot of people wearing masks in the area.

HK, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea.. everyone on the street wears a mask.

How about places like Iran, Italy, Egypt?

Well you know the local people in Canada and USA don’t have a habit of wearing masks.
:seriously: they're doing it for YOUR benefit

[punkwax]

Do airport screening people wear ppe now? Like gloves and masks?

Gloves yes, mask no. If memory serves correct, they typically always wear gloves.

[SpeedStars]

I don’t feel safe walking in Metrotown anymore. A lot of people wearing masks in the area.

HK, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea.. everyone on the street wears a mask.

How about places like Iran, Italy, Egypt?

Well you know the local people in Canada and USA don’t have a habit of wearing masks.

Would like to add that while a lot of people are most afraid of those wearing masks/full hazmat gear/gloves etc... These people are the LEAST likely people to transmit the virus to you. While they may look out of place, the person you should be worried about most is the dude who just walked by you talking on the phone without a mask.

I will be wearing a respirator when I shop now regardless if people think I look like I came straight out of Walter Whites RV.

[JSALES]

I went yesterday evening.

US guard: where I am going.
Canada guard: what did I pick up.

Do airport screening people wear ppe now? Like gloves and masks?

I actually work at the airport. Some of the screening officers are wearing the masks, even some airport employees are wearing the mask and gloves when handling boarding passes, passports etc.

[Special K]

After this is over (hopefully in a few months), I wonder if public areas are going to have signs like Hong Kong where an elevator will have a sign saying “this button has been disinfected every 4 hours”

Stay safe

[will068]

Last week going back from PR, the CDN Border guard was asking if I have been to Iran in the last 2 weeks.

[StylinRed]

After this is over (hopefully in a few months), I wonder if public areas are going to have signs like Hong Kong where an elevator will have a sign saying “this button has been disinfected every 4 hours”

Stay safe

I wish, I don't think I've ever seen anyone disinfect the buttons, handles, handrails, to anything, anywhere here in canada/us

In hk/cn/tpe you don't just see the signs, you see people actively clean

[CorneringArtist]

I know! But have you tried it without ever wiping? Squirting that water onto a shitty ass and then trying to blow dry it? DansGame Also those dryers barely have any force, you'd have total swamp ass after.

I love them, but you absolutely need TP to go with them. Feel sorry for anyone who does your laundry if you don't wipe your ass before spraying water onto it LUL God forbid you wanna get your ass ate EleGiggle

Three folded squares is all I need to wipe :lawl:

[hud 91gt]

If you see anyone coughing without covering their mouth please say something. You don’t have to be rude about it but anyone who isn’t in the habit needs to change their ways pronto. If you’re reading this and thought of a friend or family member you know who is an open air cougher, do the world a favour and let them know it makes everyone around them uncomfortable. It can be downright disgusting too depending on the environment.

I saw a lady in my local Safeway hacking up a lung into the milk fridge as I was waiting to grab some myself. I figured screw the milk and left without saying any words to her but she definitely could tell I wasn’t impressed. If I could go back in time I’d say something but this was before the insanity began. From now on I’ll be sure to speak up.

My 5 y/o knows to cover his mouth ffs.

I’ll start by saying I always cough into my elbow. But realistically, have you ever been beside someone cough into their elbow? My wife did the same thing a couple days ago. I got the full ricochet to my face. Sure, your not spreading it to your hands and touching everything in sight, but your elbow doesn’t magically absorb all the particles. It’s like farting into a walll. Your still going to smell it (ok not quite but you get what I mean. Little particles of bodily fluids are floating around until they lose their terminal velocity and come to rest). Coughing into your elbow doesn’t all of a sudden make you Mr Clean.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Wow went to save on foods, potatoes, onions, most other vegs, all gone.
Meat, poultry, all gone, although ground beef seems to be rare lately anyways.

The small Asian grocer on the corner? Full of veg, no one shopped there.

T&T coq cen? Out of instant noodles n noodles basically, and meats as well.

The organic store, Pomme? Fully stocked

Some lady in front of me was visibly ill though, and wasn't wearing a mask, started coughing too, she simply turned her head towards her child to cough, didn't cover her face... Works at a Coquitlam animal shelter/hospital..
What's worse is she took forever, trying to use some obscure store credit she has.

Girl working the till ended up disinfecting the checkout machine after she left, and apologized

In terms of meat, and veg T and T have the stock now. Rice and noodles not so much. Wal Mart was out of pasta and any type of paper is toilet paper, tissue etc etc , hand sanitizer, rubbing alcohol mask etc etc. That was yesterday. Saw some old lady at London drugs paying over $20 rolls of 24 roll of toilet paper……
As for not going to Pomme the stuff in that store is really expensive compare to Superstore, Wal Mart or even T and T. Try Assi super market instead. Price is still somewhat decent but not much people shop there. There is an organic supermarket to the left of Lincoln station but is overpriced.

Edit I also took Friday off since I got a cold and my throat is really sore. I didn't wear a mask since is only a cold but is scare to cough I'm public. It would be even worse if I cough with a mask on people is going to think ingot infected lol. Heard from a co worker management had a meeting and starting next week unless you have to work in the office you can work from home. I really don't think that's needed at all…… this also is unfair because while sales, accounting, marketing, HR can work from home people like the install techs, ISP admin, call center and support have to go in for work. It able really be everyone works from home or no one does.

[Hondaracer]

Sitting in my wife’s orthodontist office there’s some kid sitting across from me probably 13-15 kid is coughing just into the air etc I’m looking at him being like wtf..

Then he grabs some fat boogers from his nose and proceeds to eat them while looking me in the eyes..

RIP him and I

[Euro7r]

Yesterday, checked Superstore hours, shows open at 6am. So I figured not many would get up that early this morning Saturday, get there and it apparently opens at 7am. Not sure if they pushed back an hour later open or if online is misleading. Ended up chilling in my car for an hour, slowly the lineup starts building outside to wait for doors to open. Hoards of people in every aisle, lineup to pay was like an hour. Got home at 9am, 3 hour grocery shopping trip.......

[welfare]

Some invaluable relevance in these very uncertain times..

https://youtu.be/hh_s1pjFvMU

[westopher]

I think everyone’s best course of action right now is to find the busiest place they can (Costco) and stay in a warehouse with thousands of people while grappling for toilet paper , hand sanitizer and water for when the B.C. government shuts off our tap water leaving us nothing to drink or wash our hands with.
Seems super fucking smart, because that’s a super likely scenario.
Fuck people are fucking retarded.

[Manic!]

Apple is shutting all of it's stores outside China for 2 weeks.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/apple-temporarily-shuts-stores-outside-china-to-fight-virus-1.4853120

ONDON -- Tech giant Apple is closing its stores outside of China for two weeks and will only sell online as part of efforts to fight the global viral pandemic.

"In our workplaces and communities, we must do all we can to prevent the spread of COVID-19," CEO Tim Cook tweeted Saturday. "Apple will be temporarily closing all stores outside of Greater China until March 27 and committing (US)($15M to help with worldwide recovery."

[Hondaracer]

Get out and support your local small businesses

A lot of restaurants in our area are hurting, try to make an effort to go somewhere besides the giant chains if you’re going out to eat and tip well. Will be very sad to see if some restaurants that have just opened or just getting their feet under them go under because of all this

[iwantaskyline]

So my boss came into work on Thurs/Friday with a flu. People are obviously going wtf...anything legal you can do anonymously? lol, maybe a stupid question.

[Presto]

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/14/canadians-abroad-recommended-return-commercial-available/


OTTAWA (NEWS 1130) — Canadians who are currently abroad are being told by the federal government to come back home while commercial planes are still available.

The federal government is out with an official global travel advisory Saturday morning, warning that as COVID-19 spreads around the world, more countries might choose to seal off.

Foreign Affairs Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne tweeted the new recommendation, a step up from previous advice, which urged Canadians to rethink non-essential travel outside of the country.

“We recommend that Canadian travellers return to Canada via commercial means while they remain available,” his tweet reads.

In another tweet Prime Minister Justin Trudeau adds the government has also enhanced screenings and detection processes at all international airports, land borders, ferries, and rail ports of entry.

“These are significant steps – and we will do more if needed – because protecting our economy & keeping you safe is our top priority. We’ll continue to work with all orders of government, businesses, and public health officials,” his tweet reads. “And we will get through this together.”

This recommendation comes a day after Canadians were warned against all non-essential travel outside of Canada.

Meantime south of the border, the White House announced Saturday that the United States will broaden its European travel ban.

According to Vice President Mike Pence, travel from the U.K. and Ireland to the U.S. will soon come to a halt Monday at midnight.

More to come…

[cafe22]

Get out and support your local small businesses

A lot of restaurants in our area are hurting, try to make an effort to go somewhere besides the giant chains if you’re going out to eat and tip well. Will be very sad to see if some restaurants that have just opened or just getting their feet under them go under because of all this

This. local F&Bs are getting a swift kick in the balls due to this virus. In the food truck/catering world, contracts are being cancelled or postponed for April just when the season is getting started.... :alone:

[twitchyzero]

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/13/no-canadian-should-have-to-worry-about-paying-rent-amid-covid-19-pandemic-trudeau/

will Trudeau pay my VI too? :alone:

[underscore]

Three folded squares is all I need to wipe :lawl:

3 squares is so wasteful, get on my level

https://i.imgur.com/GwGGuEn.jpg

[extracrunchie]

3 squares is so wasteful, get on my level

https://i.imgur.com/GwGGuEn.jpg

You will need to wash your hands anyways :fullofwin:

[pastarocket]

Nine new cases of Covid 19 in BC. -total of 73 and counting now. :heckno:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/14/nine-new-covid-19-cases-in-b-c/

[welfare]

“It’s not essential, and we do not have to test everybody who has been outside the country even if they have a mild illness,” she says. “

Huh.

[twitchyzero]

makes sense...they dont wanna flood the testing sites
priority is for senior home/hospital patients

[i-vtecyo]

“Even if you have mild symptoms, or if you have no symptoms and you have returned from travel, you don’t need testing. We want to make sure that people with no symptoms understand they don’t need to be tested for COVID-19.”

LOL, because of lack of initial action against this virus, now there will be a great number of cases undetected/ unmonitored. People travelling who MAY be positive for covid-19 but showing mild symptoms won't be tested and are going out to spread the virus to the poor senior down the street, on the bus, at work, or at the pharmacy because the potential carrier himself is ONLY presenting with MILD symptoms.

[Manic!]

Huh.

If you are coming from abroad you are suppose to self quarantine. Testing positive or negitive is not going to change that.

[welfare]

If you are coming from abroad you are suppose to self quarantine. Testing positive or negitive is not going to change that.

And I'm sure people are going to follow that strictly when they haven't been tested.
Especially when they won't receive pay.
Lmao.

[SkinnyPupp]

One of those Trudeau-hating gun-loving Nanaimo high school friends posted this on his facebook

https://i.imgur.com/luC85bP.png

Dude was the first person I ever tripped on acid with. Man we took different paths :ahwow:

He needs to take another trip I think LUL

[Manic!]

And I'm sure people are going to follow that strictly when they haven't been tested.
Especially when they won't receive pay.
Lmao.

If they test positive you want the government to lock them up? Your boss has to be an idiot to let you work right after you come back from abroad.

[welfare]

If they test positive you want the government to lock them up? Your boss has to be an idiot to let you work right after you come back from abroad.

Hey don't worry, I'm sure everyone who's been outside Canada will just lock themselves in their basement 24/7, for two weeks, when they show minimal to no symptoms and have no idea whether they're positive or negative.

I guess the numbers won't climb because nobody will know what they are EleGiggle

[SkinnyPupp]

There's literally no way to do enough tests to make them useful enough to "flatten the curve". Until someone invents one that is basically instant - and actually reliable - this is what has to be done for now.

People are focusing way too much on testing. It would be nice to be able to do it (and act upon the results) but it's not feasible at this time

[Manic!]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6678526/whistler-blackcomb-vail-resorts-coronavirus/

Whistler Blackcomb to shut down as Vail Resorts ceases operations due to coronavirus.

Fears over the coronavirus have now hit the Whistler Blackcomb ski resort, which will shut down for a week starting Sunday along with all of Vail Resorts’ other North American properties.

[StylinRed]

France shutdown everything deemed non essential overnight

Grocery stores, pharmacists, gas stations, tobacco shops (corner stores), banks are considered essential

Said ppl weren't heeding the warnings/advice so they had to

Same with Spain which has the largest outbreak behind Italy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51892477

[Hehe]

For people who still think this wuhan virus is nonsense... take a look at what extreme measures China/Italy/just today Spain are taking in order to stop this.

All the drop in consumptions is going to hurt our economy, and dare I say worldwide for the next 2 quarters and pushing pretty much every major economy into a technical recession if they aren't in one. This is a true black swan.

[welfare]

There's literally no way to do enough tests to make them useful enough to "flatten the curve". Until someone invents one that is basically instant - and actually reliable - this is what has to be done for now.

People are focusing way too much on testing. It would be nice to be able to do it (and act upon the results) but it's not feasible at this time

I'm not saying test everyone, but Jesus, test the people coming back into the country.
At least then they'll know if they need to quarantine or not.
Telling people to just self isolate without them knowing whether they need to or not is just irresponsible.
Other countries that don't have Canada's "fiscal firepower" (Morneau's words, not mine) have been able to test much more. Why aren't we?

Washington State I believe has the highest number of cases in the US. Tens of thousands of British Columbians have probably gone and come from there since their outbreak. And more will. You think they're all going to self isolate?

France shutdown everything deemed non essential overnight

Grocery stores, pharmacists, gas stations, tobacco shops (corner stores), banks are considered essential

Said ppl weren't heeding the warnings/advice so they had to

Same with Spain which has the largest outbreak behind Italy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51892477

Yup the French didn't listen but Canadians will.

[StylinRed]

Scientists of the UK write a open letter to the gov't stating their strategy of spreading out the virus, and allowing for some to contract the virus to build a basic lvl of community immunity as irresponsible and risks lives

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51892402

[whitev70r]

Whistler Blackcomb shutting down.

CTV News: Panic buying increases your risk of catching Covid19.

Spain’s government said that the wife of Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has tested positive for COVID-19. Was she hanging out with Sophie?

[Ludepower]

What is the government waiting for? Next friday? Confirm cases to reach 1000?

We can start gradually shutting things down like schools, close non essential business, ban international and national flights.

A controlled closure just so the dust settles for awhile.

[tegra7]

At Langley Costco today.

Source:FB

[Hondaracer]

You can’t just abandon people abroad. There is warning going out now to get home ASAP because of the measures being taken

Closing non essential business as well is going to crippleeeeee people’s livelihoods. When you start forcibly closing business all the while people still have to pay their bills, mortgage etc. Those are worst case measures not somthing you just follow suit with other countries for for the sake of it.

[UnknownJinX]

Given the economical impact this can have, this is probably a major factor in the government's decision-making.

I want you to think like a politician for a second. To you, every one of us is just a number. That's it.

Who are the most vulnerable to the virus? The old and the weak. If you are a politician, you don't care about those people. They are a burden to you. Heck, it's a good opportunity to decrease the number of these people. All you need to worry about is "flattening the curve" when it comes to people.

I apologize if I sound like a dick, but I am just trying to put myself in a politician's shoes to see this. As an individual, we all have loved ones we don't want to lose, but a politician will have different interests in mind. Economy, votes, etc. are the main factors in their mind.

Take a look at the UK's "fuck it" approach. They basically decide to not even bother to do anything other than shielding the old and the weak. Sacrifices will be made along the way, but it's for "the greater good" if their strategy works.

In other news, Alberta seems to be taking some actions. My local gym shut down today, and I was asked by my boss to work from home starting Monday.

At Langley Costco today.

Source:FB

That's just scummy, but not much you can do to stop it. I can only imagine asking whoever manages the parking lot to tell them to fuck off.

I have read that Kijiji has banned toilet paper, wipes, etc. ads, but that's more popular around where I live in Alberta. On the west coast, Craigslist is far more prevalent.

[Mr.HappySilp]

If you are coming from abroad you are suppose to self quarantine. Testing positive or negitive is not going to change that.

And I'm sure people are going to follow that strictly when they haven't been tested.
Especially when they won't receive pay.
Lmao.

I was at service Canada with a friend and over heard a Chinese talking on the phone saying he just came back to Canada from China and went straight to service Canada with his friend (he wasn't alone) to get sin Card and that afterwards he will go home, take a shower and meet up. This was back Feb. So much for self quarantine…… coz that's going to work. Unless you have people isolate in a military camp or have a GPS ankle bracelet on them there is no way to 100% to sure everyone will follow the self quarantine rule.

[AzNightmare]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html


Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.

Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them.

lol, serves him right. Fuck these people.

But now I guess no one can get them...

[6793026]

You know what's going to happen to US & Canada which I think is quite different in China is the retail / living sector.

There will be a LOT of people living thru paychecks to paychecks + retail + min. wage jobs are going to get hit HARD.....

-getting laid off, mom and pop shops and service industries... are going to hurt.

I do hope people realize the importance of having an emergency fund.

Apple store + Michael Kors etc are closing / limited hours. Trickle effects from servers... will have hours reduced and people aren't able to find jobs....

[i-vtecyo]

I was at service Canada with a friend and over heard a Chinese talking on the phone saying he just came back to Canada from China and went straight to service Canada with his friend (he wasn't alone) to get sin Card and that afterwards he will go home, take a shower and meet up. This was back Feb. So much for self quarantine…… coz that's going to work. Unless you have people isolate in a military camp or have a GPS ankle bracelet on them there is no way to 100% to sure everyone will follow the self quarantine rule.

Exactly this. Mom's friend had a funeral sometime in Feb and people from China came for a week to pay their respects. Some were told to self isolate, but guess what? They went to the funeral the next morning and went all over the place. Like I said before, if people are asymptomatic and told to self isolate while on vacation, what do you think the likelihood of them are going to listen and "waste" their vacation days?

[trd2343]

Given the economical impact this can have, this is probably a major factor in the government's decision-making.

I want you to think like a politician for a second. To you, every one of us is just a number. That's it.

Who are the most vulnerable to the virus? The old and the weak. If you are a politician, you don't care about those people. They are a burden to you. Heck, it's a good opportunity to decrease the number of these people. All you need to worry about is "flattening the curve" when it comes to people.

I apologize if I sound like a dick, but I am just trying to put myself in a politician's shoes to see this. As an individual, we all have loved ones we don't want to lose, but a politician will have different interests in mind. Economy, votes, etc. are the main factors in their mind.

Take a look at the UK's "fuck it" approach. They basically decide to not even bother to do anything other than shielding the old and the weak. Sacrifices will be made along the way, but it's for "the greater good" if their strategy works.

In other news, Alberta seems to be taking some actions. My local gym shut down today, and I was asked by my boss to work from home starting Monday.



That's just scummy, but not much you can do to stop it. I can only imagine asking whoever manages the parking lot to tell them to fuck off.

I have read that Kijiji has banned toilet paper, wipes, etc. ads, but that's more popular around where I live in Alberta. On the west coast, Craigslist is far more prevalent.

I won't make a blanket statement that all politicians are like that, but certainly ones like that do exist.

I am sure we would love for the governments to divert all resources possible to put an end to this virus, and say there's not a single life not worth saving.

But at the end of the day, our resources are finite, and unless all the hyper-rich of the world decides to pool their wealth together and help out, it would be a tough job to save and everyone and not screw up the economy.

I am sure the impact of the economy right now goes well beyond what we can see immediately, possibly extending to quite some time after this.

[westopher]

Whoever sees someone selling toilet paper in the Costco parking lot like that just throw a lit cigarette in the back of their vehicle. Should catch quickly.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Whoever sees someone selling toilet paper in the Costco parking lot like that just throw a lit cigarette in the back of their vehicle. Should catch quickly.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-03-2018/-4K_0c.gif

[fliptuner]

I hope Costco does a no return policy on TP.

[Manic!]

I was at service Canada with a friend and over heard a Chinese talking on the phone saying he just came back to Canada from China and went straight to service Canada with his friend (he wasn't alone) to get sin Card and that afterwards he will go home, take a shower and meet up. This was back Feb. So much for self quarantine…… coz that's going to work. Unless you have people isolate in a military camp or have a GPS ankle bracelet on them there is no way to 100% to sure everyone will follow the self quarantine rule.
Back in Feb was the government telling people to self quarantine?

Costco today in Nanaimo had no to but QFC had lots. I bought a pack of 12. This was around 5:20 p.m.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not saying test everyone, but Jesus, test the people coming back into the country.
At least then they'll know if they need to quarantine or not.
Telling people to just self isolate without them knowing whether they need to or not is just irresponsible.
Other countries that don't have Canada's "fiscal firepower" (Morneau's words, not mine) have been able to test much more. Why aren't we?

Washington State I believe has the highest number of cases in the US. Tens of thousands of British Columbians have probably gone and come from there since their outbreak. And more will. You think they're all going to self isolate?



Yup the French didn't listen but Canadians will.
They should do what Hong Kong did to China. Shut down all land borders to Washington, except one. Anyone coming in is subject to a mandatory 14 day quarantine, monitored by a phone app and call-ins. If your phone GPS doesn't sign in for a certain time, police come check up on you.

Nobody will want to come in unless they are coming home, and those people should be going back anyway, or staying away completely.

It worked pretty well for us, and no testing was needed.

[MG1]

Holy jesus, mohammed, buddha, lucifer, devil in miss jones, loki, chairman mao, and xena. NVM toilet paper and hand sanitizer............ nobody this side of the Rockies has thermometers. I couldn't for the life of me, find the three I thought I had in the house. So, I went out to look for a replacement. Well, nobody has any. I should have figured it out as one of the important things to have. Anyway, carry on carrying on. I'll have to spend most of tomorrow finding the old ones. I did find one, but it was the yray kind....... you know....... I mean everybody calls him that. Right, FastAnna?

[6793026]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/15/04/25985236-8113399-Passengers_were_packed_in_tight_at_O_Hare_airport_ with_lines_mov-a-61_1584248309614.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/15/04/25985054-8113399-Welcome_home_Arriving_passengers_from_Europe_have_ faced_lines_la-a-54_1584248309539.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8113399/Chaos-13-funnel-airports-lines-long-six-hours-plane-baggage-claim.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

6 hr wait time at Dallas airport... holy F.

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/q5jji6u13nm41.jpg

[6793026]

They should do what Hong Kong did to China. Shut down all land borders to Washington, except one. Anyone coming in is subject to a mandatory 14 day quarantine, monitored by a phone app and call-ins. If your phone GPS doesn't sign in for a certain time, police come check up on you.

It worked pretty well for us, and no testing was needed.

This is a great idea, just USA / Canada doesn't have the man power to do this.
1) no monitoring team available; (honestly, my friend in China did get random calls + mandatory face time and then visits. That's China with their limitless $$). Don't know how this will work in in Canada, let alone USA.

2) not everyone has data phones / coverage. someone has to enforce and receive consequences.. which is another issue.

This is something USA and canada ain't even close to how efficient Asia is.

[Mr.Money]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2E1t3yMXgE

[SkinnyPupp]

This is a great idea, just USA / Canada doesn't have the man power to do this.
1) no monitoring team available; (honestly, my friend in China did get random calls + mandatory face time and then visits. That's China with their limitless $$). Don't know how this will work in in Canada, let alone USA.

2) not everyone has data phones / coverage. someone has to enforce and receive consequences.. which is another issue.

This is something USA and canada ain't even close to how efficient Asia is.
Then have facilities for quarantined people who are either homeless (or visiting) or don't have a phone that can be tracked. I think someone said a mental hospital is empty but ready to go? Perfect.

"no monitoring team available" so make one lol. These don't have to be doctors or nurses, we could use police or military to do the job.

Once the borders are closed, there will not be many people to look after anyway

[underscore]

Closing non essential business as well is going to crippleeeeee people’s livelihoods. When you start forcibly closing business all the while people still have to pay their bills, mortgage etc. Those are worst case measures not somthing you just follow suit with other countries for for the sake of it.

What's the alternative? There are ways to offset peoples costs and steps need to be taken to flatten the curve as much as possible to reduce the strain on the health care system. It's pretty hard to pay your bills when you're dead too.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I think Seattle is going to be shut down next week. Read about people seeing the National Guard.

[SkinnyPupp]

Excellent graphical presentation on how the virus "works" (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/)

Social Distancing is the best method of "flattening the curve":

https://i.imgur.com/EQVcMHy.png

The key is, can we accomplish this type of distancing without the same drastic measures China or Italy took?

[JSALES]

One lady refused to be tested and went to church and a buffet lunch and infected more than 1000 people

https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html

[Manic!]

"no monitoring team available" so make one lol. These don't have to be doctors or nurses, we could use police or military to do the job.



Don't have the man power.

[SkinnyPupp]

Don't have the man power.
65,000 in the armed forces, 15,000 reservists. We have the manpower. This is why we have a military, not just for fighting overseas.

[Amuse]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/15/04/25985236-8113399-Passengers_were_packed_in_tight_at_O_Hare_airport_ with_lines_mov-a-61_1584248309614.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/15/04/25985054-8113399-Welcome_home_Arriving_passengers_from_Europe_have_ faced_lines_la-a-54_1584248309539.jpg


6 hr wait time at Dallas airport... holy F.
I only spot 5 face masks.

[Amuse]

This is a great idea, just USA / Canada doesn't have the man power to do this.
1) no monitoring team available; (honestly, my friend in China did get random calls + mandatory face time and then visits. That's China with their limitless $$). Don't know how this will work in in Canada, let alone USA.

2) not everyone has data phones / coverage. someone has to enforce and receive consequences.. which is another issue.

This is something USA and canada ain't even close to how efficient Asia is.

Asia is REALLY ahead in that department, compared to North America.

[quasi]

Shout out to all the Nurses, Doctors, 811, Grocery Store Employees, Truck Drivers and everyone else out there who's been working like crazy the past few weeks and who will be working like mad for the next few months at least.

Remember to be kind to each other, it's going to get worse before it gets better but it will get better.

[6793026]

65,000 in the armed forces, 15,000 reservists. We have the manpower. This is why we have a military, not just for fighting overseas.

Logistically not possible.
I only know first hand how HK/China is doing this so based on that:

1) Need vetted gov't employees with clearance to access personal database; SIN / Care Card / phone number.
2) Need a call center: manager + technical IT managers + call center reps.
3) Collect info from border records then call out to John/Jane Doe's cell phone.
4) Be able to have him / her allow location sharing. I don't even know how that works. Will it be a gov't app? Do they turn on wechat location services?
5) You'll need MULTIPLE IT nerds on standby to try and explain someone like my mom who's in her 60s and my dad who is 70 to turn on data and access internet or turn on an app. GOOD FOOKING LUCK with that... ahahahhahaha
6)OH... and you'll need an expert for all models on iphone + huawei + LG + samsung + ZTE.... etc. That's assuming we are just talking about someone who has a cell phone + data.... you know how I know.. cause my company had to have that for all our global employees (all done via India).
7) OH wait... we are in Canada.. we need bilingual AND maybe 20+ languages cause we have to cover all our bases on those who don't speak english.....

Going to stop talking now..... rants has gotten me really impressed how Asia / Hk has been able to pull this off. Fuck, I can't even get thru to Expedia for 2 day just to cancel my flight.

Military / reserves are not for these clerical tasks; guys on reserves right now are on standby on high alert in case they need to be deployed. If in 2 weeks, there are lock downs, guards will be needed at borders to say the least.

[SkinnyPupp]

Logistically not possible.
I only know first hand how HK/China is doing this so based on that:

1) Need vetted gov't employees with clearance to access personal database; SIN / Care Card / phone number.
2) Need a call center: manager + technical IT managers + call center reps.
3) Collect info from border records then call out to John/Jane Doe's cell phone.
4) Be able to have him / her allow location sharing. I don't even know how that works. Will it be a gov't app? Do they turn on wechat location services?
5) You'll need MULTIPLE IT nerds on standby to try and explain someone like my mom who's in her 60s and my dad who is 70 to turn on data and access internet or turn on an app. GOOD FOOKING LUCK with that... ahahahhahaha
6)OH... and you'll need an expert for all models on iphone + huawei + LG + samsung + ZTE.... etc. That's assuming we are just talking about someone who has a cell phone + data.... you know how I know.. cause my company had to have that for all our global employees (all done via India).
7) OH wait... we are in Canada.. we need bilingual AND maybe 20+ languages cause we have to cover all our bases on those who don't speak english.....

Going to stop talking now..... rants has gotten me really impressed how Asia / Hk has been able to pull this off. Fuck, I can't even get thru to Expedia for 2 day just to cancel my flight.

Military / reserves are not for these clerical tasks; guys on reserves right now are on standby on high alert in case they need to be deployed. If in 2 weeks, there are lock downs, guards will be needed at borders to say the least.
Can't really compare to HK as it's just a small city. That's a big advantage

Can't compare to china because their most effective method was barring people inside their homes and killing people. That's a big advantage on paper in terms of slowing the virus numbers wise (most people want as many people to live as possible, with as much liberty as possible.)

The rest, it's all pretty simple IT based stuff. Canada is a small country with 30 million people and a border shared with only one country. If people put thought into it, they can solve this. Your comments with "IT Nerds" and shit like that shows that you aren't even really putting any thought into anything, just spouting off (and during this stressful time, that's understandable)

It's not just "asia is ahead of us". They had totally different circumstances. Korea and Italy also handled their outbreaks differently from the rest, as is Japan.

[Manic!]

Can't really compare to HK as it's just a small city. That's a big advantage

Can't compare to china because their most effective method was barring people inside their homes and killing people. That's a big advantage on paper in terms of slowing the virus numbers wise (most people want as many people to live as possible, with as much liberty as possible.)

The rest, it's all pretty simple IT based stuff. Canada is a small country with 30 million people and a border shared with only one country. If people put thought into it, they can solve this. Your comments with "IT Nerds" and shit like that shows that you aren't even really putting any thought into anything, just spouting off (and during this stressful time, that's understandable)

It's not just "asia is ahead of us". They had totally different circumstances. Korea and Italy also handled their outbreaks differently from the rest, as is Japan.

You would be surprised at how many people don't have cell phones and coverage is spotty in many places including parts of Nanaimo like the Hammond bay area.

[SkinnyPupp]

You would be surprised at how many people don't have cell phones and coverage is spotty in many places including parts of Nanaimo like the Hammond bay area.
I hear you man, just trying to brainstorm some solutions that worked elsewhere.

When people say that nobody is going to quarantine, my first thought is to track them so they have to.

However, maybe the assumption should just be, not everyone will quarantine themselves. So the goal should be to get as many of them to do so as possible. Public shaming might be the solution, rather than forcing them to stay home.

Maybe full lockdown is the only viable solution, and some countries were just lucky to avoid it (and some may well get there)

[StylinRed]

cbsa has a team for that, if travel is shutdown, and ppl are denied entry, you wouldn't need much manpower to monitor...ppl play nice when they think they're being surveiled anyhow

all the suppliers like grainger/uline/etc aren't selling masks to new customers anymore, just to previous ones same with medical supply companies