[Ludepower]

These next couple weeks are crucial. We can atleast have a partial shutdown with minimum wage jobs, schools, restaurants, malls, etc. They're already suffering from the lack of business. Just pull the plug on them and give them 100% employment insurance.

Other jobs like trades can close a little later depending on the conditions. All I'm saying is let's be proactive instead of reactive.

[quasi]

I see discord increased channel size from 10 to 50 to allow people to do virtual classrooms if needed. This is what I like to see companies looking for ways to help, even though it's a small thing it's a good idea. Good on you Discord.

[UnknownJinX]

What's the alternative? There are ways to offset peoples costs and steps need to be taken to flatten the curve as much as possible to reduce the strain on the health care system. It's pretty hard to pay your bills when you're dead too.

It won't kill most of the young people, so they still have to pay bills. That's why you see the younger population risk it.

Young people suffer financially, older people suffer in terms of health.

[corollagtSr5]

If your an organ donor and you die from the virus, do they still transplant the organs to other people or are the organs disqualified?

[welfare]

They should do what Hong Kong did to China. Shut down all land borders to Washington, except one. Anyone coming in is subject to a mandatory 14 day quarantine, monitored by a phone app and call-ins. If your phone GPS doesn't sign in for a certain time, police come check up on you.

Nobody will want to come in unless they are coming home, and those people should be going back anyway, or staying away completely.

It worked pretty well for us, and no testing was needed.

Then have facilities for quarantined people who are either homeless (or visiting) or don't have a phone that can be tracked. I think someone said a mental hospital is empty but ready to go? Perfect.

"no monitoring team available" so make one lol. These don't have to be doctors or nurses, we could use police or military to do the job.

Once the borders are closed, there will not be many people to look after anyway

I hear you man, just trying to brainstorm some solutions that worked elsewhere.

When people say that nobody is going to quarantine, my first thought is to track them so they have to.

However, maybe the assumption should just be, not everyone will quarantine themselves. So the goal should be to get as many of them to do so as possible. Public shaming might be the solution, rather than forcing them to stay home.

Maybe full lockdown is the only viable solution, and some countries were just lucky to avoid it (and some may well get there)

You think they're going to do any of that?
Countries weren't just "lucky". The ones that didn't test and monitor to extent restricted flights and their border, If not closing them completely.
Which, as you know, we have still done neither.

Canada's "enhanced screening measures" consist of a touchscreen questionnaire and a pamphlet. Sometimes not even that. And we're talking about people coming back from highly infected areas.

https://montreal.citynews.ca/video/2020/03/11/passengers-from-italy-faced-no-screening/

What i find really upsetting about this is that Canada had a much further head start than other countries and its been squandered completely.
The combination of a lack of transparency and action is probably the worst way of handling this.
But I'm not surprised in the least.

[Manic!]

These next couple weeks are crucial. We can atleast have a partial shutdown with minimum wage jobs, schools, restaurants, malls, etc. They're already suffering from the lack of business. Just pull the plug on them and give them 100% employment insurance.

Other jobs like trades can close a little later depending on the conditions. All I'm saying is let's be proactive instead of reactive.

Are you going to also pay the business owners? Closing down malls would also mean closing down pharmacies and some doctor's offices.

[Ludepower]

Are you going to also pay the business owners? Closing down malls would also mean closing down pharmacies and some doctor's offices.


We can atleast start the discussion on what we can close first or close everything all together. We have many countries we can model ourselves too.

Sacrifices and hard decisions need to be made now

[welfare]

Manic!, I'd just like to take this moment to thank you, and all those others like you, who have continued to defend this government after bungling just about every state of affairs that's been thrown at them.

In a few weeks time, when we're taking much more drastic measures than those that should have been taken in preparation, and people in dire need of healthcare are being turned away, I'm sure you'll still be praising the terrific job they've done.

[westopher]

No matter what happens you will blame the Liberal government. How is your outlook any more valid?

[trd2343]

We can atleast start the discussion on what we can close first or close everything all together. We have many countries we can model ourselves too.

Sacrifices and hard decisions need to be made now

Not Apple to Apple, but I feel like this is a situation where you have a family member who has a terminal illness. How do you do you decide how much resources you want to put in to keep them alive? (You’re just a regular family)

I’m not suggesting answers or correct solutions.

[welfare]

No matter what happens you will blame the Liberal government. How is your outlook any more valid?

And if you can't be critical of this government's clear failure at handling this very foreseeable issue, then you are wearing the heaviest prescription of partisan glasses I've witnessed.

Trump dropped the ball HARD on testing. But at least they restricted travel promptly from countries with high rates.

200 yesterday morning. 313 this morning.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6680382/coronavirus-canadians-313-chief-health-officer/

[Amuse]

Stay home, save lives: How Canada could avoid the worst of COVID-19

Now is the time for social distancing, before the disease gets 'completely out of control'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-canada-social-distancing-1.5497789

[twitchyzero]

ottawa will have a mechanism in place to easily lend money to businesses
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-fiscal-package-1.5496928

for the individuals/families that dont have a rainy day fund...this will be a hard lesson to learn...let's hope EI can get them through

but anyone trying put economy before communtiy health should try working on the front lines in italy/iran/hubei if they're gonna say this virus is nbd

a physician working near milan tells his story (translated)...people that help others fight the virus for weeks without seeing their own family in times of crisis
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/

[westopher]

And if you can't be critical of this government's clear failure at handling this very foreseeable issue, then you are wearing the heaviest prescription of partisan glasses I've witnessed.

Trump dropped the ball HARD on testing. But at least they restricted travel promptly from countries with high rates.

200 yesterday morning. 313 this morning.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6680382/coronavirus-canadians-313-chief-health-officer/
This has nothing to do with partisanship you cucumber.
This has to do with the fact that really, nobody knows what the appropriate course of action is, as this is an unprecedented worldwide event in our lifetimes. You have absolutely no idea what the appropriate course of action is. Neither do I. If you want to know how to butcher a pig, I'll show you. If I want to know how to change my hedgasket, I'll ask you. But neither of us have a fucking clue what the appropriate measures are for this situation, because besides the medical implications, there are MASSIVE financial implications as well that could cause more harm long term than even this disease if things get under control. Then we will get to hear from welfare in "the Canadian recession thread" about how the liberal governments overreaction to the covid-19 epidemic caused Canada's financial collapse. Your formula isn't subtle.

[underscore]

France shut themselves down as much as possible: https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/03/574856/france-partial-lockdown-covid-19-deaths-hit-91

What boggles my mind is all the people who seem completely oblivious and are going around like everything is normal. Meanwhile other people/businesses are shutting down or isolating as much as possible.

This seems relevant given the opposing views in here.

https://i.imgur.com/0FpznWh.png

[welfare]

This has nothing to do with partisanship you cucumber.
This has to do with the fact that really, nobody knows what the appropriate course of action is, as this is an unprecedented worldwide event in our lifetimes. You have absolutely no idea what the appropriate course of action is. Neither do I. If you want to know how to butcher a pig, I'll show you. If I want to know how to change my hedgasket, I'll ask you. But neither of us have a fucking clue what the appropriate measures are for this situation, because besides the medical implications, there are MASSIVE financial implications as well that could cause more harm long term than even this disease if things get under control. Then we will get to hear from welfare in "the Canadian recession thread" about how the liberal governments overreaction to the covid-19 epidemic caused Canada's financial collapse. Your formula isn't subtle.

Canada's own government website states that 79% of cases are due to travel.
Yet there have been no travel restrictions placed thus far. Only "recommendations" and "advisories".
But i guess you'd need to be a mathematician to understand that 2+2=4.

[hud 91gt]

Of course the cases came from travel! Not even hipsters are eating bats in Canada.

[Manic!]

Canada's own government website states that 79% of cases are due to travel.
Yet there have been no travel restrictions placed thus far. Only "recommendations" and "advisories".
But i guess you'd need to be a mathematician to understand that 2+2=4.


What happened to personal responsibility? If a vaccine is created should everyone be forced to take it?

[Manic!]

What a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IM-02VpUsE

[whitev70r]

Once Manic! and Welfare starts at it in a thread, it's like a bad virus.

[Hehe]

US Fed just cut the rate to effective 0

[eclipseman]

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/interior-airport-issues-advisory-after-passenger-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

Passenger on Vancouver-Kelowna flight tests positive for COVID-19

[welfare]

Once Manic! and Welfare starts at it in a thread, it's like a bad virus.

Honestly, I'm not even..

My wife has been dealing with complications the last few years. She's scheduled for a hysterectomy in April. I doubt it's gonna happen. Which is fine by comparison.
She'll live.
But I'm sure there are members on this site,and many Canadians in general, with family who deal with critical health problems.
When our ICU's become so overwhelmed, and they're treating patients in hallways, with personnel and equipment stretched beyond their limits, I'm not so sure about what'll happen to them.

So yea, I'm not too concerned about replying to some forum troll atm.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1239243622916259841

This is an excellent read. Whenever I hear someone talk about the "panic" and "don't panic" I want to slap them upside the head.

We need to REACT, what these idiots are calling "panic" or we are truly fucked. Actually we need to do what seems like OVERREACT.

I hope some of them are still lurking. I see them failing smart posts, so I know they're still here.

I think if more unfiltered footage came out of Wuhan, along with actual statistics, people might be taking this a bit more seriously. Probably not though...

[punkwax]

I’ve had a cough for a few weeks now.. it just won’t go away. No COVID I actually got the fever test before I could enter a clients site the other day. Felt bad for the guy beside me on the plane today. He was ultra cautious, broke out the Lysol wipes ahead of takeoff and everything. Tried my damn best not to cough on the short 45 min flight from Kelowna to YVR but probably did 5-6 times into my sleeve and away from him. Was wondering what was going through his mind lol

There was a toddler in the row next to me coughing his ass off. A lady in the same row got westjet to provide her with sanitizing wipes. Everyone is ultra cautious at the moment, especially in airports and planes.

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/interior-airport-issues-advisory-after-passenger-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

Passenger on Vancouver-Kelowna flight tests positive for COVID-19

Not me!

This is a little close for comfort though I flew YVR to YLW the next day :badpokerface:

[StylinRed]

Big numbers damn

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51901976
The three states bearing the brunt of the coronavirus pandemic in Europe have all recorded their highest death tolls for a single day.

Italy saw 368 deaths bring its total to 1,809, Spain recorded 97 more deaths for a total of 288, and France reported 29 deaths, giving a total of 120.

The UK also saw a single-day record, with 14 new deaths and a total of 35.

[SkinnyPupp]

Big numbers damn

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51901976
If we knew the real death toll in China, those would seem miniscule (not that ANY deaths are miniscule)

[T4RAWR]

Honestly, I'm not even..

My wife has been dealing with complications the last few years. She's scheduled for a hysterectomy in April. I doubt it's gonna happen. Which is fine by comparison.
She'll live.
But I'm sure there are members on this site,and many Canadians in general, with family who deal with critical health problems.
When our ICU's become so overwhelmed, and they're treating patients in hallways, with personnel and equipment stretched beyond their limits, I'm not so sure about what'll happen to them.

So yea, I'm not too concerned about replying to some forum troll atm.

Most hospitals are already over capacity. Have a stroll through surrey memorial and you'll see beds all over with 4 to 6 hour waits to get in. :heckno:

[ilovebacon]

You guys will call me crazy. With the world planning for a one-world government and depopulation. I am starting to believe this redhead.
Watch the first 15min and let me know what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtfqUtW_8AA&feature=emb_title

[StylinRed]

I can't bring myself to click it, even though redheads are hilarious to listen to

[welfare]

Someone was mentioning that they assumed airport screening must be more thorough than the border crossing (can't find the post).
Guess again.
I like when the reporter asks the woman coming back across the border if she plans on self isolating for 14 days as instructed and she responds with laughter.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/international-travellers-arriving-at-yvr-say-they-re-not-seeing-extra-screening-1.4853006

At Vancouver International Airport, passengers arriving from overseas Friday told CTV News they didn’t notice any additional screening while passing through Canada Customs.

“Yeah, there is nothing happening in the airport. It’s insane. All other airports have been really spot on. This airport? Nothing happening,” said traveller Emma Logan. “And yet the media is telling everybody that they need to be careful and there’s nothing actually happening in the airport.”

[welfare]

Here's another good read. From today.

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/coronavirus-the-major-breakdown-at-canadian-airports/

Public Safety Minister Bill Blair and the Canada Border Services Agency have not explained why travellers who arrived Saturday were not asked to self isolate, or why they had to wait for up to an hour in the Customs line at Pearson to be processed.

By Sunday morning, some travellers were receiving pamphlets with instructions. The pamphlet advises: “You are also asked to limit your contact with others for 14 days starting the day you began your journey to Canada.”

The pamphlet instructs travellers to contact “the public health agency in the province or territory where you live within 24 hours of arriving in Canada (see back of sheet).”

The back of the sheet is blank.

[tegra7]

Big numbers damn

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51901976

Says nothing about age groups of the deceased or if they had previous health issues.

[SkinnyPupp]

Says nothing about age groups of the deceased or if they had previous health issues.
What difference would that make? :fulloffuck:

[tegra7]

What difference would that make? :fulloffuck:

It would explain statistics :seriously:

[SkinnyPupp]

It would explain statistics :seriously:
And what would that mean to you if most of the people dying are old and sick?

It's still killing people who would otherwise be alive, and still disrupting our lives immensely.

What would the "statistics" do for us?

[punkwax]

^ could help those who aren’t elderly or have pre-existing medical conditions stay a bit more calm and help avoid sudden chaos.

If every demographic was in survival mode, society would be a lot worse than it is now.

It’s still horrible that people are dying, don’t get me wrong. But any factual data that could help influence less panic is a good thing IMO.

[twitchyzero]

Here's another good read. From today.

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/coronavirus-the-major-breakdown-at-canadian-airports/

things are literally changing by the hour

by the time the pamphlet is printed it's already outdated

2020 is one for the books, this is 9/11 on the global scale for the new generation: kids will read about it in textbooks, case studies in business school etc

[SkinnyPupp]

^ could help those who aren’t elderly or have pre-existing medical conditions stay a bit more calm and help avoid sudden chaos.

If every demographic was in survival mode, society would be a lot worse than it is now.

It’s still horrible that people are dying, don’t get me wrong. But any factual data that could help influence less panic is a good thing IMO.

I disagree, everyone needs to be in survival mode right now. And calm. Also it doesn't matter how old YOU are, we have to think as a community. As a community, we have young people and old people. We should strive to protect everyone in our community.

NOT panic mode mind you, but absolutely survival mode. You should NOT be "living your life" like normal. Things you are doing should feel surreal and unfamiliar. Because this situation is.

I suspect the city you're in will be shut down once the numbers climb enough. That seems to be the only effective way to slow it down...

I'll repost this tweet since it ended up on the bottom of a page;

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1239243622916259841

[MG1]

Great. Now I can’t do my laundry anymore.


https://gcgaming.com/

[tegra7]

Starting Monday Surrey is closing it's rec centers, pools and libraries.

[rsx]

Starting Monday Surrey is closing it's rec centers, pools and libraries.

Are other cities following suit? Wouldn't some folks just go into community centres that are open?

[6793026]

Aritiza (starting March 16) + GoodLife fitness + fit4Less effective immediately until further notice. (as of 8PM PST).

[Mr.HappySilp]

Aritiza (starting March 16) + GoodLife fitness + fit4Less effective immediately until further notice. (as of 8PM PST).

That puts Apple, Lululemon, MEC and Lush. Also The Bay and some other store and malls have their open times change.

[Ludepower]

I sense the government is gonna lay down the hammer and shut everything down this week. They've been warning everyone to come home.

I hope you all have an emergency fund and contingency plans in place to weather this out. Not trying to incite fear but this is the real deal now.

[SkinnyPupp]

I sense the government is gonna lay down the hammer and shut everything down this week. They've been warning everyone to come home.

I hope you all have an emergency fund and contingency plans in place to weather this out. Not trying to incite fear but this is the real deal now.
I think we need to start talking about UBI again

I mean it was always something worth discussing, but people are finally realizing hey, we can get fucked over with no control, and not everyone is rich enough to "save for a rainy day"

Maybe people will start to realize, all these people they rely on every single day are actually quite poor. Maybe the system is unfair and we should help each other out, and they're not just "being lazy"

[hud 91gt]

I bet complete shutdown tomorrow.

[ilovebacon]

I sense the government is gonna lay down the hammer and shut everything down this week. They've been warning everyone to come home.

I hope you all have an emergency fund and contingency plans in place to weather this out. Not trying to incite fear but this is the real deal now.

Welp, I guess I'm fucked. I just recently graduated, maintaining a part-time position and now coronavirus... Wheres, my money cheat code.

[westopher]

I bet complete shutdown tomorrow.
I hope it is. Get everyone on the same page, get it started, and get it finished.

[hud 91gt]

In my eyes it’s the most economically effective way to do it. No point in prolonging the inevitable.

Just like ripping off a bandaid. I just hope gold and silver aren’t what people are goong for after TP. Then we’re screwed.

[RRxtar]

Trudeau has a press conference tomorrow to announce something. I'm expecting a shut down.

[Amuse]

Besides UBC, SFU, and UVIC, other post secondary institutions are going to online instruction. Some of them made the announcement today.

https://www.straight.com/news/1372736/bcit-langara-college-and-capilano-university-transition-online-or-alternate-forms

[SkinnyPupp]

Most likely he's closing the borders. I don't expect a shutdown yet

[GS8]

This thread is 2 fast 2 furious for me to keep up with so apologies if these have been posted before.

Found this tracking site:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Continuously updated despite the site being attacked more than once. Hopefully its accuracy is maintained.

-----

Also, journalists are trying to narrow down the first case of this virus

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-patients-zero-contracted-case-november-2020-3

SCMP Report: (I don't know how credible SCMP is)

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back

[StylinRed]

Casinos are closing (sorry mg1 gonna have to play the slots from Ur phone) :lol

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/15/10-b-c-casinos-set-to-close-at-midnight-due-to-covid-19/

[Teriyaki]

Welp, I guess I'm fucked. I just recently graduated, maintaining a part-time position and now coronavirus... Wheres, my money cheat code.

You and me both. Just came back to Canada after a year abroad and labour market could not be any worse. UBI looking real good right about now.

[SkinnyPupp]

Calgary declares state of emergency, here's what they're doing (https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/city-of-calgary-declares-state-of-local-emergency-over-covid-19-1.4854314)

[Amuse]

Calgary declares state of emergency, here's what they're doing (https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/city-of-calgary-declares-state-of-local-emergency-over-covid-19-1.4854314)

Beside Calgary, which other cities in Canada declared a state of emergency? Or is Calgary the first one?

[ImportPsycho]

Why are ppl buy up breads?
Gonna freeze them?

Eggs too

[Bouncing Bettys]

Trudeau has a press conference tomorrow to announce something. I'm expecting a shut down.
Could be to let us know he started showing symptoms and tested positive.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Could be to let us know he started showing symptoms and tested positive.

Or could be telling people to stay clam go.oit as usual but don't buy packs and packs of TP coz he can't buy any. Seriously though I don't expect him to shut down the country
He doesn't have the balls to do it.

[6793026]

* i don't want to spread fear, so i'm going to remove my post.

did people start getting what's being talked about on press release tmw? I got it, and it's pretty detailed.

[danned]

shutting down PORN?
:troll:

[Manic!]

Or could be telling people to stay clam go.oit as usual but don't buy packs and packs of TP coz he can't buy any. Seriously though I don't expect him to shut down the country
He doesn't have the balls to do it.

No, he is going to talk about how well Costco, Superstore Walmart and London Drugs are doing and how everything is going perfect.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/HirokoTabuchi/status/1238959717088624648

[6793026]

shutting down PORN?
:troll:

no it's pretty serious. it's an 8 point "shut down of everything" border, food, restaurnats etc... everything our PM will address at 11 AM PST address the nation speech.

[GS8]

This past weekend, I noticed a huge upswing of activity in some of the buy and sell groups I'm part of on Facebook. Not even single items either but rather 3-4 from each seller.

Some people are definitely taking this seriously and planning far ahead.

[underscore]

This is from Bergamo, Italy, a town of ~120,000. Comparing the obituary pages from Feb 9 to Mar 13th.

https://i.imgur.com/SYVkJSv.mp4

I don't know how to embed a .mp4 here so the link is the best I can do.

[SkinnyPupp]

This is from Bergamo, Italy, a town of ~120,000. Comparing the obituary pages from Feb 9 to Mar 13th.

https://i.imgur.com/SYVkJSv.mp4

I don't know how to embed a .mp4 here so the link is the best I can do.
"But they're all old" BrokeBack

[6793026]

Confirmed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETM45SDUMAESSPq?format=jpg&name=small

[eclipseman]

New York City is doing the same...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/new-york-los-angeles-shut-bars-and-restaurants-worlds-central-banks-coordinate-to-combat-coronavirus-idUSKBN2130EQ

[tegra7]

Have any of you local guys taken time off work to quarantine yet?

[Manic!]

* i don't want to spread fear, so i'm going to remove my post.

did people start getting what's being talked about on press release tmw? I got it, and it's pretty detailed.

According to the mayor to T.O. John Tory it's not true.

https://twitter.com/JohnTory/status/1239369884351545344?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Teriyaki]

According to the mayor to T.O. John Tory it's not true.

https://twitter.com/JohnTory/status/1239369884351545344?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Not true until its true? Don't know. Always taking politicians words with a grain of salt. Personally, I hope they have the balls to take the drastic measures to shut down all the things aside from essential services.

[GS8]

Have any of you local guys taken time off work to quarantine yet?

I'm 'essential' staff where I work (I'm 1 of only 2 essential). That said, my industry isn't even essential :lol

I have the right to refuse work given these circumstances so I'm going to wake up early, see what new developments there are and decide for myself...

[ilovebacon]

* i don't want to spread fear, so i'm going to remove my post.

did people start getting what's being talked about on press release tmw? I got it, and it's pretty detailed.

Youre too late.

[SpeedStars]

Have any of you local guys taken time off work to quarantine yet?

I work under the govt. Apparently we are allowed 2 weeks off when booking off sick now.

[MG1]

Casinos are closing (sorry mg1 gonna have to play the slots from Ur phone) :lol

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/15/10-b-c-casinos-set-to-close-at-midnight-due-to-covid-19/


2 pages ago, my friend....................

https://www.revscene.net/forums/716747-coronavirus-wuhan-72.html#post8978053



There's still Parq Casino................. crossing fingers............ Seniors Day is Wednesday, gulolol.

[StylinRed]

lol mg1 I shoulda known

I had a craving for some snacks just now, and went to the 24hr market at the mercato on commercial, and the place was busy... Why is it that everybody is buying up all the potatoes? :lol

Shelves were pretty barren, I guess I should say unsurprisingly, but I was surprised

[StylinRed]

Ah this corresponds with what some of my relatives were saying, that I mentioned some pages back ("fully recovered" patients having lung damage)

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3074988/coronavirus-some-recovered-patients-may-have

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah if you have serious lung issues and need medical intervention to help you breathe, it's going to be a while before you can breathe fine again. Months and months, with possible lifetime decreased capacity. Ask anyone who's had pneumonia

[SkinnyPupp]

Korean church sprayed salt water inside followers' mouths, believing it would prevent coronavirus. 46 people got infected because they used the same nozzle (https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3075421/coronavirus-salt-water-spray-infects-46-church-goers)

[Mr.HappySilp]

Work is actually preparing for all staff to work at home if needed. I have no idea how they can get us all laptops in just a day. Tech will still have to go out and do their work which sucks.

To be honest working from home sucks I will be stuck at home for like 18+ hours a day @@

[twitchyzero]

right now is not the time to bitch about cabin fever (unless you’re stuck with a bunch a known infected)

[!Aznboi128]

Mandatory work from home for us.

https://www.clio.com/blog/response-to-covid-19/

The company decided this last week just to be safe, considering there's 300 or so in the office it makes sense.

[pastarocket]

The Canucks' office staff got hit with Covid 19 too. One office employee is in self isolation. :heckno:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/16/canucks-office-staff-member-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

[Euro7r]

I already planned to work from home this week and monitor the situation as it progresses. COO issued memo last night, mandatory company wide all office based workers work from home for a couple of weeks. :fuckyea:

[hud 91gt]

I’ve had pneumonia twice. It sucks. But not the end of the world. I just have a much higher chance of dying. Hahaha. But seriously, just a lifetime of coughing and easy infections. I’m pretty active so I can’t say my capacity is any worse then it should be.

[blkgsr]

what's that? you work in construction? see you at work tomorrow

because we all know no one in construction takes transit, or has meetings, or can get sick like everyone else

[Vansterdam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erCCzcd9eYA

[nabs]

I’ve had pneumonia twice. It sucks. But not the end of the world. I just have a much higher chance of dying. Hahaha. But seriously, just a lifetime of coughing and easy infections. I’m pretty active so I can’t say my capacity is any worse then it should be.

I get pneumonia too.. really really sucks.

[StylinRed]

Borders closed

[Hondaracer]

Insane that the important points are in French and then translated.. the translation is very hard to hear on CTV..

[hud 91gt]

Not quite. International flights cancelled. Borders open to citizens and US citizens. Domestic US, Canada and mexico flights still on.

[pastarocket]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/trudeau-gives-covid-19-update-cbc-news-special-coverage-live-1.5498891

Trudeau's speech.

Non-residents are banned from entering the country, except for US citizens.

[StylinRed]

what did I hear wrong? thought he said no americans either

only govt diplomats, and non symptomatic canadians

domestic flights with the us still on to allow ppl to go back home, fly out, but no one in?


edit: ohh wow nevermind us citizens too wtf

edit2: "doesn't apply to us citizens for the moment" geeeez

[MG1]

Borders closed

To those who are non-residents or not permanent residents.


So far...................


Good thing I decided not to go today. Things can change as quickly as the weather in Vancouver.


I'm also going to self quarantine myself. Those filthy amuricans.................. :troll:

[Teriyaki]

I understand that it is extremely hard to close borders with the US with the flip of the switch. Hopefully this is just another step towards shutting it down.

[Mr.HappySilp]

LOL weak! Should have ban US citizen from entering as well since is getting pretty bad down there. What's worse is people aren't testing so you have no idea if you have the virus or not.

[MG1]

Need to laugh a bit........... to offset so much bad news.

https://www.keeplaughingforever.com/post/top-10-corona-virus-jokes

You know Chuck Norris had to be in there...........

[GS8]

Hmm. I was expecting something 'stronger' to be said by the PMO but I guess I'm just reading too many 'what if' articles ::facepalm:

Anyway,

Went to a nearby Safeway at 9:30 this morning. BUSY but manageable. Some parts of the freezer sections wiped out as with canned goods. NO TP at all and Tissues were almost empty. I was able to get what I needed and despite standing in line for about 20 minutes, it was fine. Other than a couple of people clearing grabbing more than they need (and things they probably don't eat), most people were cool, calm and cheerful. This weather is probably helping lift people's spirits.

Shout out to the store employees. They don't get paid enough in general but to deal with all this now? Hope they get some kind of bonus / profit share.

I'm not worried about the virus, I'm worried about how people deal with unprecedented situations.

[westopher]

Insane that the important points are in French and then translated.. the translation is very hard to hear on CTV..
Trudeau said the ENTIRE address in English and French. He said every point once in each language.

[mikemhg]

My girlfriend is a nurse @ VGH.

Edit by !Aznboi128: patient confidentiality

[Vansterdam]

3 more deaths in BC today

[quasi]

what's that? you work in construction? see you at work tomorrow

because we all know no one in construction takes transit, or has meetings, or can get sick like everyone else

Interesting to see what they do with jobsites going forward. I can see big sites getting shut down.

I'm an estimator/PM so I'm in the office most of the time. I called my boss and let him know I'll be working from home for the next week or two, he was fine with it.

TBH I don't want to risk getting my wife sick her works needs her on the front lines now more now than ever.

I feel terrible for all the people in hospitality that are going to either be laid off our have their shifts seriously cut for the unforeseen future who work at hotels, restaurants ect. All the people living cheque to cheque who are going to be in serious trouble, the Govt. can say what it wants about helping but talk is cheap I want to see action.

[inv4zn]

My girlfriend is a nurse @ VGH.

Edit by !Aznboi128: patient confidentiality

Uh, your girlfriend might want to be reminded of laws regarding patient confidentiality...she probably didn't want you to just post that online as well.

[yray]

My girlfriend is a nurse @ VGH.

Edit by !Aznboi128: patient confidentiality

:lol my dad walked into family doctor requesting for oxygen because he was feeling better but wanted an extra boost to being sent into ER to almost going on ECMO in 9 hours

Dad was 54% SpO2 at ER

they never found out what caused his double pneumonia, this was in feburary

[Jmac]

Health care workers can get in big shit for stuff like that. Mods edit the posts?

[blkgsr]

Interesting to see what they do with jobsites going forward. I can see big sites getting shut down.

I'm an estimator/PM so I'm in the office most of the time. I called my boss and let him know I'll be working from home for the next week or two, he was fine with it.

TBH I don't want to risk getting my wife sick her works needs her on the front lines now more now than ever.

I feel terrible for all the people in hospitality that are going to either be laid off our have their shifts seriously cut for the unforeseen future who work at hotels, restaurants ect. All the people living cheque to cheque who are going to be in serious trouble, the Govt. can say what it wants about helping but talk is cheap I want to see action.

my wife works for PHSA as a PM and is being deemed an essential service and has to continue to go work. i would assume as support for programs and logistics etc

is there any truth to the rumor that gatherings of 50 or more is now banned? my site has 60+

bull shit if my office just says keep 10 guys at home...

[JD¹³]

Buddy of mine just flew from Toronto Pearson in to YVR today. Said there was no signage in either airport and saw basically no indication of any kind of prevention measures. He noted that the few hand sanitizer stations he passed in YVR were all empty.

The fact that the Premiere of AB had to call out the Federal government for not doing shit at our points of entry and mobilize provincial assets is a bad look. Today's federal response was weak and provinces are taking stronger measures on their own accord. Infections have gone bang in the US and spread will increase, I expect the same in Canada over the next few days. Too little too late from our fed gov.

[SSM_DC5]

my wife works for PHSA as a PM and is being deemed an essential service and has to continue to go work. i would assume as support for programs and logistics etc

is there any truth to the rumor that gatherings of 50 or more is now banned? my site has 60+

bull shit if my office just says keep 10 guys at home...

50 people is true. Listening to the news now and it was said by Dr bonnie Henry.

[welfare]

BAHAHAHAHA!!!!
so basically nothing different.
Border still wide open to the 99% who were traveling it already.
Flights still coming in and out of all areas with high rates of infection.
And we're handing out pamphlets to passengers coming back to ask them to please maybe hope you consider self isolating for 14 days.

South Africa shut it's border completely yesterday, ordered all citizens to return, and those returning from any country with over 200 infected will be tested. Mandatory isolation for all returnees.
Freaking South Africa!
With twice the population, half the gdp, and only 61 cases recorded!

Listening to these bobbleheads talk about flattening the curve while simultaneously imposing no actions to do so is like living in the twilight zone.

[hud 91gt]

my wife works for PHSA as a PM and is being deemed an essential service and has to continue to go work. i would assume as support for programs and logistics etc

is there any truth to the rumor that gatherings of 50 or more is now banned? my site has 60+

bull shit if my office just says keep 10 guys at home...

If you take your emotional aspect out of it. Do you really feel there is a hazard to your health in the workplace? Can your workplace take precautions to reduce risk? Or is this an emotional response because you are seeing others staying home?

If everyone says I’m not going to work (if this is against federal advice), it is a fairly self centred decision if there really is low risk. If your work is forcing you to work and you believe it is indeed a risk to your immediate well being, use your “right to refuse”, part 2 of the Canada labour code. They will find out fairy quick if your argument is true. If it’s really not a hazard, then do your part and keep the world spinning.

[inv4zn]

my wife works for PHSA as a PM and is being deemed an essential service and has to continue to go work. i would assume as support for programs and logistics etc

is there any truth to the rumor that gatherings of 50 or more is now banned? my site has 60+

bull shit if my office just says keep 10 guys at home...

At the provincial level 250+ is banned.

Anything else than that is either rumours at this point OR applicable in other cities/provinces. BC is ok for the moment.

[Bouncing Bettys]

My mom texted me just now saying Adrian Dix will have an announcement tomorrow about public schools and a a pundit from Victoria suggested they may keep the schools closed after spring break and thus could be the end of the school year?

[GS8]

Reposting this link:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

As of March 16th:

3233 new cases and 349 new deaths in Italy

1440 new cases and 41 new deaths in Spain

1428 new cases and 2 new deaths in Germany

They've already stated that Europe is now the epicentre of the pandemic. These numbers clearly suggest that. Contrary, I'm actually shocked how low India's number is but good on them if they're able to stay on top of the outbreak.

Also:

572 new cases and 7 new deaths in the United States

This is like the initial wind gusts before a hurricane

:heckno:

Also, the panels are getting grilled by the press. I love it.

[ilovebacon]

Work is actually preparing for all staff to work at home if needed. I have no idea how they can get us all laptops in just a day. Tech will still have to go out and do their work which sucks.

To be honest working from home sucks I will be stuck at home for like 18+ hours a day @@

Learn to take breaks. Work life balance. Sometimes we get caught up working we forget to eat.

[inv4zn]

BAHAHAHAHA!!!!
so basically nothing different.
Border still wide open to the 99% who were traveling it already.
Flights still coming in and out of all areas with high rates of infection.
And we're handing out pamphlets to passengers coming back to ask them to please maybe hope you consider self isolating for 14 days.

South Africa shut it's border completely yesterday, ordered all citizens to return, and those returning from any country with over 200 infected will be tested. Mandatory isolation for all returnees.
Freaking South Africa!
With twice the population, half the gdp, and only 61 cases recorded!

Listening to these bobbleheads talk about flattening the curve while simultaneously imposing no actions to do so is like living in the twilight zone.

I can't even.

Hyperbole aside, according to StatsCan, 7,464,299 non-residents (which does not include Americans) visited Canada in 2019. Unless you somehow think 700 million Canadians+Americans are crossing the borders barring international tourists is a good step.

Flights are coming in with screening happening at boarding and landing.

As for SA...well here's a photo from March 16, 2020.
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/03/1862/1048/safrica_4.jpg

Try suggesting social distancing there. Say what you want about Canada but despite all the idiocy there's still a lot of decent people who will take their own measures to help in this shitshow.

[underscore]

Sask and Alberta are shutting down on their own, BC and the federal level seem to be doing fuck all. Suggesting social distancing is great but too many people have zero ability to look at anything beyond how things are right at this moment.

[welfare]

I can't even.

Hyperbole aside, according to StatsCan, 7,464,299 non-residents (which does not include Americans) visited Canada in 2019. Unless you somehow think 700 million Canadians+Americans are crossing the borders barring international tourists is a good step.

You're incorporating stats from an entire year :rukidding:

All the measures that aren't taken now are going to be taken by mid April to end of April by the latest. Only by then this thing is going to be out of control.

We can always seem to find the resources to pour into a problem when it's spiraled out of control. But never when it comes to preventing it.

https://youtu.be/e-XPL91r0uk

[quasi]

my wife works for PHSA as a PM and is being deemed an essential service and has to continue to go work. i would assume as support for programs and logistics etc

is there any truth to the rumor that gatherings of 50 or more is now banned? my site has 60+

bull shit if my office just says keep 10 guys at home...

I hear you, my wife works for Healthlink BC she hasn't had a day off in almost 3 weeks been working 10-12 hours a day during the week and 8-10 on weekends. I'm worried she's going to burn out but she seems to be holding up right now, the kid and I have to take care of the household for now.

[Amuse]

Not quite. International flights cancelled. Borders open to citizens and US citizens. Domestic US, Canada and mexico flights still on.

All international flights are cancelled? What about Canadian citizens/ PR cards/ Americans from international countries wanting to come to Canada? Those flights still allowed?

[eclipseman]

At the provincial level 250+ is banned.

Anything else than that is either rumours at this point OR applicable in other cities/provinces. BC is ok for the moment.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-cancelling-events-with-more-than-50-people-1.4855058

[Ch28]

Buddy of mine just flew from Toronto Pearson in to YVR today. Said there was no signage in either airport and saw basically no indication of any kind of prevention measures. He noted that the few hand sanitizer stations he passed in YVR were all empty.

The fact that the Premiere of AB had to call out the Federal government for not doing shit at our points of entry and mobilize provincial assets is a bad look. Today's federal response was weak and provinces are taking stronger measures on their own accord. Infections have gone bang in the US and spread will increase, I expect the same in Canada over the next few days. Too little too late from our fed gov.

Adrian Dix also called out the PMO for not having stronger policies in place and that he’d like to see the border with USA closed to only essential Americans (commercial trade I assume)

[hud 91gt]

All international flights are cancelled? What about Canadian citizens/ PR cards/ Americans from international countries wanting to come to Canada? Those flights still allowed?
Look into it. I was just typing as he was speaking.

[twitchyzero]

just got ordered to isolate for a conference that happened 11 days ago

i'm finding out through news article...still no official word...all my colleagues are unsure if it includes everyone we've been in contact with since then, very frustrating kept in the dark

[punkwax]

2 pages ago, my friend....................

https://www.revscene.net/forums/716747-coronavirus-wuhan-72.html#post8978053



There's still Parq Casino................. crossing fingers............ Seniors Day is Wednesday, gulolol.

Parq is being shut down today as well.

[The_AK]

just got ordered to isolate for a conference that happened 11 days ago

i'm finding out through news article...still no official word...all my colleagues are unsure if it includes everyone we've been in contact with since then, very frustrating kept in the dark

My coworkers that were at this conference too got told a week ago to leave the office and isolate. Surprised you're only hearing about it now

[Manic!]

BAHAHAHAHA!!!!
so basically nothing different.
Border still wide open to the 99% who were traveling it already.
Flights still coming in and out of all areas with high rates of infection.
And we're handing out pamphlets to passengers coming back to ask them to please maybe hope you consider self isolating for 14 days.

South Africa shut it's border completely yesterday, ordered all citizens to return, and those returning from any country with over 200 infected will be tested. Mandatory isolation for all returnees.
Freaking South Africa!
With twice the population, half the gdp, and only 61 cases recorded!

Listening to these bobbleheads talk about flattening the curve while simultaneously imposing no actions to do so is like living in the twilight zone.


Just a few weeks backs you were telling an RS member he may want to take his dad to the states for medical treatment. Hope he didn't listen to because now he would be fckd.

Just throwing this out there, but i know a lot of people who require urgent care go south of the border.
You will have to pay, of course. But i hear quality and expediency are much greater.
Just throwing it out to you.
Take care. Lot of tough decisions ahead. I hope for the best for you and your family.

[blkgsr]

If you take your emotional aspect out of it. Do you really feel there is a hazard to your health in the workplace? Can your workplace take precautions to reduce risk? Or is this an emotional response because you are seeing others staying home?

If everyone says I’m not going to work (if this is against federal advice), it is a fairly self centred decision if there really is low risk. If your work is forcing you to work and you believe it is indeed a risk to your immediate well being, use your “right to refuse”, part 2 of the Canada labour code. They will find out fairy quick if your argument is true. If it’s really not a hazard, then do your part and keep the world spinning.

Where's the emotion? why are offices/schools/public buildings etc all across the country closing but construction sites (honestly with some of the most immune compromised individuals you'll see in the work place) supposed to keep working.

A good majority of those in the construction industry take transit. My wife who is being forced at this point to continue working needs to take transit. So why is the construction industry one of the few needing to "keep the work spinning". I feel for the nurses and doctors. Also those working what i'm sure is hell like grocery stores.


what do you do? are you working from home? doing your part to keep on spinning?

and don't quote the labour code to me and my right to refuse.

as for precautions, you even stepped foot on a site before??? "ok guys, you just touched something dirty, better go wash your hands" what every 2 mins? get real

I hear you, my wife works for Healthlink BC she hasn't had a day off in almost 3 weeks been working 10-12 hours a day during the week and 8-10 on weekends. I'm worried she's going to burn out but she seems to be holding up right now, the kid and I have to take care of the household for now.

that sucks man, what does she do? nurse? fortunately my wife hasn't had to increase hours or anything yet but talking to her a little while ago she's thinking she may need to work late

[twitchyzero]

My coworkers that were at this conference too got told a week ago to leave the office and isolate. Surprised you're only hearing about it now

they said low risk since it was only 1 guy...now it's 4+

[The_AK]

they said low risk since it was only 1 guy...now it's 4+

From what I heard the initial person wasn't a vendor but someone roaming around. From what we were told this person didn't visit our booth but still...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[hud 91gt]

Where's the emotion? why are offices/schools/public buildings etc all across the country closing but construction sites (honestly with some of the most immune compromised individuals you'll see in the work place) supposed to keep working.

A good majority of those in the construction industry take transit. My wife who is being forced at this point to continue working needs to take transit. So why is the construction industry one of the few needing to "keep the work spinning". I feel for the nurses and doctors. Also those working what i'm sure is hell like grocery stores.


what do you do? are you working from home? doing your part to keep on spinning?

and don't quote the labour code to me and my right to refuse.

as for precautions, you even stepped foot on a site before??? "ok guys, you just touched something dirty, better go wash your hands" what every 2 mins? get real



that sucks man, what does she do? nurse? fortunately my wife hasn't had to increase hours or anything yet but talking to her a little while ago she's thinking she may need to work late


I think you took my comment too personally. But really, emotion is clearly at state, and it’s hard to ignore those emotions when you are feeling scared. I’m sorry if paraphrasing the CLC to you brought up even more emotion. Not sure why that would irritate you. It’s your right not to go if it is indeed a hazard? The reason I quoted it is because I’m pretty familiar with it. Having once held the position of Safety Chair for my employee group. I apologize if you found it offensive, or your interpretation of it. If you really think rationally about your situation, is it rational? Only you can answer that, I don’t know what you do. I was just laying out your legal rights.


As for your question regarding me? My industry is one of the few exceptions where I don’t even have a 14 day isolation period. My wife is also in one of these positions in a completely different industry. So yes. We are both working, and thus far not from home. Her hours are doubled, mine are slow. It is what it is.

[Great68]

This morning my company just issued a directive that anyone who can work from home should do so.

I had a couple techs today who were supposed to fly out to commission a project in Saskatchewan. They cancelled, obviously understandably I hold no ill will but right there's over a grand in lost airline fares and hotel cancellation fees right to the bottom line. Economic impact = real.

After I left work this morning I stopped by the grocery store to pick up a couple things, I hadn't been shopping for a couple weeks now and holy shit I couldn't believe what people were saying until I saw it first hand and people are totally losing it.
This woman in front of me had $500 in her cart and the cashier was like "I had someone with $1000 go through earlier today".

What are people going to do if we have a disaster that actually disrupts the food supply?

I always buy bulk/case lot and keep an inventory in my basement pantry and freezer simply because I hate running out of shit, and man is that paying its benefits now.

[nsmb]

Just a few weeks backs you were telling an RS member he may want to take his dad to the states for medical treatment. Hope he didn't listen to because now he would be fckd.



03-02-2020

Is that a frenzy, or people just being prepared?

Or is it like Y2K when people bought generators and a bunch of other stuff that they returned January 2nd?

2 weeks ago you compared this to Y2K 4Head

[Manic!]

03-02-2020



2 weeks ago you compared this to Y2K 4Head

Yes, I compared the frenzy to Y2K. I wouldn't be surprised if people try to return all the stuff they bought when this is over.

[twitchyzero]

This woman in front of me had $500 in her cart and the cashier was like "I had someone with $1000 go through earlier today".


$1000 is a typical costco run if you've got like 10 mouths to feed like many of the south asian households in vancouver

[Manic!]

$1000 is a typical costco run if you've got like 10 mouths to feed like many of the south asian households in vancouver

That's like a 6 month supply for a South Asian family.

[murd0c]

I used to spend $700-1000 at Costco every 4-5 months for a family of 2 adults...

[punkwax]

Lol @ 6 months. I have a family of 5 including 3 kids who aren’t big eaters and I spend $4-500 pretty much every month at Costco.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm a bit behind since it's morning here, so I just heard that they are closing the borders, but NOT to the US.

That is INSANE. Unless it really spreads to South America, US is going to be the #2 country after China in terms of infections.

You guys need to write to your MPs now, and put pressure on them to close the US border ASAP.

We had the exact same thing happen. Borders closed to everyone BUT China, where the damn infection started. Our medical workers started a union overnight, and went on strike until the government closed most of the borders. These workers are now considered heroes, since they put their asses on the line, and will almost certainly be sued by the hospitals later.

Do it now! If our inept, evil govt did reacted to their people, Canada should too. Hopefully without having to strike.

This is unbelievable.

[SkinnyPupp]

San Francisco on lockdown (https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/Bay-Area-must-shelter-in-place-Only-15135014.php)

Six Bay Area counties announced a “shelter in place” order for all residents, directing everyone to stay in their homes for the next 3 weeks

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/11/12/63/19180790/9/1280x0.jpg

[Manic!]

Lol @ 6 months. I have a family of 5 including 3 kids who aren’t big eaters and I spend $4-500 pretty much every month at Costco.

Indian family, 6 months no problem on a grand. An Indian diet is mostly flour, rice, and vegetables.

[Badhobz]

Why joooo buy so much milk !? Is it to make paneer ?!

[striderblade]

Sask and Alberta are shutting down on their own, BC and the federal level seem to be doing fuck all. Suggesting social distancing is great but too many people have zero ability to look at anything beyond how things are right at this moment.

Totally agreed. We have people here who still drive summer tires In a snow storm. Yeah think about that. Rofl

[inv4zn]

is there any truth to the rumor that gatherings of 50 or more is now banned? my site has 60+

bull shit if my office just says keep 10 guys at home...

We got word from head office about this.

Work from home if you can, but the 50+ gather ban is for social events and the like. A workplace with more than 50 people doesn't count as a gathering.

That said, like I said, we're being given the option to work from home if applicable.

[ilovebacon]

My 2 weeks at home begins now.
My part-time employer told me to stay home.

[Manic!]

‘It’s going to be hard’: B.C. bans gatherings of 50+ people to slow COVID-19 transmission

Ban tightens earlier order to reduce to under 250 people

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/b-c-bans-all-gatherings-of-50-people-to-slow-covid-19-transmission/

[Ludepower]

I'm a bit behind since it's morning here, so I just heard that they are closing the borders, but NOT to the US.

That is INSANE. Unless it really spreads to South America, US is going to be the #2 country after China in terms of infections.

You guys need to write to your MPs now, and put pressure on them to close the US border ASAP.

We had the exact same thing happen. Borders closed to everyone BUT China, where the damn infection started. Our medical workers started a union overnight, and went on strike until the government closed most of the borders. These workers are now considered heroes, since they put their asses on the line, and will almost certainly be sued by the hospitals later.

Do it now! If our inept, evil govt did reacted to their people, Canada should too. Hopefully without having to strike.

This is unbelievable.

I have a feeling it's due to not offending Mr. I'm not responsible Trump. Any slight insult to him will affect trade.

Besides most americans dont have passports and too dumb to know where Canada is anyways.

[SkinnyPupp]

I have a feeling it's due to not offending Mr. I'm not responsible Trump. Any slight insult to him will affect trade.

Besides most americans dont have passports and too dumb to know where Canada is anyways.
It's definitely political, which is why it pisses me off so much. Politics shouldn't replace safety. And Fuck Trump

[Liquid_o2]

Work from home for the next two weeks starting tomorrow for my company. I better gather anything I need now!

[welfare]

People can blame whoever they want, but the fact is, Canada's prime minister is Justin, not the Donald.

[welfare]

Man, laugh tracks make almost any situation seem funny

https://twitter.com/TheophanesRex/status/1238137882637893632

[Great68]

$1000 is a typical costco run if you've got like 10 mouths to feed like many of the south asian households in vancouver

Yeah I mean that's a Costco run. I'm typically in the $350 every 1-2 months at Costsco if it's just food I'm buying. But this was $500 at Country Grocer, which is insane to me. And yeah I saw people with 5 packs of toilet paper in their cart. Crazy.

[Manic!]

People can blame whoever they want, but the fact is, Canada's prime minister is Justin, not the Donald.

But trumps the greatest leader of all time. If he is not closing the boarder why should we?

[lilaznviper]

just got ordered to isolate for a conference that happened 11 days ago

i'm finding out through news article...still no official word...all my colleagues are unsure if it includes everyone we've been in contact with since then, very frustrating kept in the dark

my gf just got told to be in isolation because of the conference, so now i have to as well. her office is now closed for the week and i'm guessing lots more will be closed.

Been non stop all day setting everyone up for remote work.

[Hondaracer]

JT says it’s safe so I’m not worried, live laugh love, off to the pub!

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/holdincourt/status/1239726502587006976

Grocery store shutting down for 3 days to disinfect after a CUSTOMER says they were there before finding out they tested positive.

This is the kind of reaction that increased testing can result in. But really, if every store shuts down when one of their customers shows an infection, every store will be shut down.

It's also a reminder to Hong Kong that the pandemic is STILL HAPPENING and that we should NOT be "going back to normal".

Same with Singapore, Japan, China, and everyone else who experienced it earlier than the rest of the world.

[spoon.ek9]

This is from Bergamo, Italy, a town of ~120,000. Comparing the obituary pages from Feb 9 to Mar 13th.

https://i.imgur.com/SYVkJSv.mp4

I don't know how to embed a .mp4 here so the link is the best I can do.

this is really chilling to see...

[donot521]

my gf just got told to be in isolation because of the conference, so now i have to as well. her office is now closed for the week and i'm guessing lots more will be closed.

Been non stop all day setting everyone up for remote work.
What about the patients who visited the dentist? Should they isolate too?

[Digitalis]

Gender justice and equality before anything else. He needs to have a gender equal task force before he can enforce any quarantines or close any borders down

[6793026]

FYI, I was suppose to get an offer from a new job; they held off due to this.

I'm goign to be in the long haul to be unemployed (since Nov 1, now it's march, i can't see this going well until 4 months from now). I'm blessed to have 1 yr worth of rent saved up; you will soon see roll out of retail people out of a job (zero to virtually no hours) to not have income / can't pay rent and then can't pay for groceries.

It'll be a long haul.. let's see how this plays out. I'm offering no contact pick up food for those who are older within my close friends / relatives / church. No groceries shopping for you (there are free services right now); i'm offered free cooked food.

Let's help those closed one another / loved ones and the less fortunate.

[inv4zn]

Not gonna lie, headline made me chuckle
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/03/canada-announces-it-will-exclusively-import-covid-19-from-us/

[GS8]

Despite some ups and downs, the Dow Jones lost 9000 points since Valentine's Day

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history/

[tegra7]

I have a family member who is 62 years old and isn't taking this too seriously and continues to travel to work via transit. Should she continue to go to work for a couple more weeks or should I convince her to stay home starting asap?

[punkwax]

^the latter. If she can.

[Mikoyan]

I have a family member who is 62 years old and isn't taking this too seriously and continues to travel to work via transit. Should she continue to go to work for a couple more weeks or should I convince her to stay home starting asap?

Convince her to stay home if you can. I don't think anyone will be commuting to work within the next week.

[Ludepower]

People are goin to work to pay the bills. You cant fault her for that. My boss told me its business as usual and we're gonna stay open as long as possible.

Its the government with blood on their hands for not shutting down non essential businesses sooner.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Helpful when determining if you need to get tested:
https://twitter.com/adriandix/status/1239764066542817281

[welfare]

Looks like the US is conducting the first trial for a vaccine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-vaccine-test-opens-1st-doses-n1160836

SEATTLE — U.S. researchers gave the first shot to the first person in a test of an experimental coronavirus vaccine Monday — leading off a worldwide hunt for protection even as the pandemic surges.

With a careful jab in a healthy volunteer’s arm, scientists at the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle begin an anxiously awaited first-stage study of a potential COVID-19 vaccine developed in record time after the new virus exploded from China and fanned across the globe.

[Rallydrv]

JT says it’s safe so I’m not worried, live laugh love, off to the pub!

That's quite a 180 from a few pages back when u were failing everyone who was being precautions. Telling people they r over reacting, saying all good to go on cruises.

[Hondaracer]

Well at that time I was legitimately ready to book a flight to join my wife in NY. Shows how quickly things change, im not ignorant enough to not change my view as new information becomes available.

However I still think the likelihood of me or the majority of people I know becoming gravely I’ll is still very slim but as it seems to be, I’m trying to do good unto others and not go out and potentially spread anything any further.

I’m hoping for everything to be over relatively quickly and that major lessons are learned here so we hopefully won’t have to go through this BS again for some time.

[snowball]

I’m hoping for everything to be over relatively quickly and that major lessons are learned here so we hopefully won’t have to go through this BS again for some time.

Lots of people still not taking this seriously, more lessons to come. I was at Metrotown today very briefly to get a refund on an item that I only had a couple of days left to return; the food court was pretty packed.

[Mikoyan]

Last Call's coming. Friend working in BC liquor store is hearing they may close as soon as end of day tomorrow, following all the other store shutdowns.

My feeling is that it's going to a full shutdown by the end of the week, middle of next by the latest.

[Hondaracer]

Well, maybe they learn a lesson the hard way.

[Gumby]

However I still think the likelihood of me or the majority of people I know becoming gravely I’ll is still very slim but as it seems to be, I’m trying to do good unto others and not go out and potentially spread anything any further.
And that’s the key part - not spreading the germs to others that might get really sick. Just thinking that you won’t get really sick is the selfish (but completely understandable) way of looking at things now.

[StylinRed]

cbc news Vancouver was at yvr, and no one is being checked, or told to self isolate.

Passengers are saying officers are asking groups of ppl in general if they're feeling okay /shrug

A senior said he was told IF he was feeling ill he should self isolate

[GS8]

Well at that time I was legitimately ready to book a flight to join my wife in NY. Shows how quickly things change, im not ignorant enough to not change my view as new information becomes available.

However I still think the likelihood of me or the majority of people I know becoming gravely I’ll is still very slim but as it seems to be, I’m trying to do good unto others and not go out and potentially spread anything any further.

I’m hoping for everything to be over relatively quickly and that major lessons are learned here so we hopefully won’t have to go through this BS again for some time.

One very important development is that people who show NO symptoms may be spreading the virus. It's still too soon to say with scientific certainty but some clues are presenting themselves.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread/index.html

I wouldn't risk going anywhere TBH. Stay home with your friends, family and community at least until the storm passes and the infection number stabilizes.

Also:

Not now, Tinder, not now....WutFace

[fliptuner]

WestJet cancelling all international flights after Sunday and focusing on efforts to get Canadians home.

[tegra7]

My work (car dealership) has no intention of shutting down any time soon, and no one at my work has taken time off yet. Im still contemplating going in to work tomorrow. My concern is that i don't want to risk spreading anything to the elders at home.

[HonestTea]

My work (car dealership) has no intention of shutting down any time soon, and no one at my work has taken time off yet. Im still contemplating going in to work tomorrow. My concern is that i don't want to risk spreading anything to the elders at home.

Are people even car shopping?

[tegra7]

Are people even car shopping?

They've been selling a couple a day last week. Service department is fairly busy as well.

[welfare]

cbc news Vancouver was at yvr, and no one is being checked, or told to self isolate.

Passengers are saying officers are asking groups of ppl in general if they're feeling okay /shrug

A senior said he was told IF he was feeling ill he should self isolate

Outstanding.
At this point I'm beginning to wonder if this incompetence is even unintentional.

UK strategy?:suspicious:

[hi-revs]

Dont mean to spread more panic, but can this be real??

https://www.boredpanda.com/coronavirus-outbreak-stages-italy-jason-yanowitz/

[Amuse]

Dont mean to spread more panic, but can this be real??

https://www.boredpanda.com/coronavirus-outbreak-stages-italy-jason-yanowitz/
Looks like Canada is stage 2 going to 3.
We have to stop this now.

[Mikoyan]

^this will make you feel even better.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/top-health-officials-stockpiled-equipment/index.html

[ime2006]

Dont mean to spread more panic, but can this be real??

https://www.boredpanda.com/coronavirus-outbreak-stages-italy-jason-yanowitz/

I would rather people be over-reacting.
That way we can stop virus transmitting more effectively.

And yes, it is real to a certain point.
I still don't get why people are thinking this is just a flu...

Wait till you see more serious outbreaks in Canada......then its way too late.
Canadian health and medical system will not hold it.
Guaranteed.

As i said before, Canada most likely will be the next Italy.

[tegra7]

I would rather people be over-reacting.
That way we can stop virus transmitting more effectively.

And yes, it is real to a certain point.
I still don't get why people are thinking this is just a flu...

Wait till you see more serious outbreaks in Canada......then its way too late.
Canadian health and medical system will not hold it.
Guaranteed.

As i said before, Canada most likely will be the next Italy.

What else should we do other than avoid crowded places and wash our hand 46 times a day? People have bills to pay. Ei only covers 2 weeks of staying home from work. Sure we can get a break from paying a mortgage and fortis bills Etc.
All those bills are going to add up and then were fucked when its time to pay up.

[Manic!]

^this will make you feel even better.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/top-health-officials-stockpiled-equipment/index.html

Why would the US government stockpile equipment? Isn't that the job of the private sector in the US who runs the healthcare?

[ImportPsycho]

I feel very fortunate to be able to work from home, remote into my office computer.
Friend works at downtown and he has no work starting today...
55% EI barely covers his $2.5k+ downtown rent.
There is lot of people living pay cheque to pay cheque, now suddenly have no way to pay next rent....

[BrokenEuro]

They've been selling a couple a day last week. Service department is fairly busy as well.

This is the case for us as well, as much as I'd hate to admit it. I too am contemplating taking time off.

[tegra7]

This is the case for us as well, as much as I'd hate to admit it. I too am contemplating taking time off.

Im sure by next week dealerships will be shutting down as well.

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKWOlFblLw

"When making a decision on limited equipment and having to choose between a 75 year to a 25 year old. The person with the higher expectation of life is the honorable choice."

I hope Canada will have all the equipment they need and the number of infected is low. I don't want them to choose one of these two choices.

[StylinRed]

Have you guys seen this?

90% of ventilators already used in Ontario hospital

1 ventilator per 10,000 Ontarians but 90% being used, so 1 ventilator per 100,000, wonder what the numbers are for each province

2:20
https://youtu.be/LRvCp_CQxv8

So in case anyone's wondering that's about 146 ventilators available for use in Ontario given the other 90% are being used

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong to quarantine ALL incoming travelers...

Except Macau (which have 0 active cases now IIRC), Taiwan (which have around 40 and no new ones for a while) and... mainland China :heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

Well at that time I was legitimately ready to book a flight to join my wife in NY. Shows how quickly things change, im not ignorant enough to not change my view as new information becomes available.

However I still think the likelihood of me or the majority of people I know becoming gravely I’ll is still very slim but as it seems to be, I’m trying to do good unto others and not go out and potentially spread anything any further.

I’m hoping for everything to be over relatively quickly and that major lessons are learned here so we hopefully won’t have to go through this BS again for some time.
Not calling you out bro, but none of this is new information. I've been posting the same shit since like day 1, just that a lot of people ignored it since it was not in their backyard.

Actual experts (not TV doctors, not politicians or media) were saying all along that this would happen. That's the information I've been repeating the entire time (along with some of my own speculation based on observations and having been through SARS)

It's kind of like how we all knew Fukushima was a really fucking bad thing for Japan, but not really the rest of us immediately. No actual experts were saying that there was going to be any direct threat to anyone outside a certain area, it was only the nutjobs spreading fear.

However real experts HAVE been saying that coronavirus was well past the point of being able to be contained AFTER China finally admitted it was happening, and without every country literally closing their borders to Chinese visitors, a pandemic was all but inevitable. There was never a valid argument against this.

None of this should have surprised anyone.

I will say that every day we delay social distancing, the number of overall infections will go significantly higher. As stylin posted, Canada are almost out of respirators. They've already been running hospitals at 100% capacity, and soon they're going to be at 10,000% capacity if this doesn't slow down.

Again not calling you out, not saying "I told you so". The reason I've been harping on this for 2 months is because I've been there before, and Hong Kong has been here before. We showed an effective way to handle it (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-16/hong-kong-shutdown-is-a-lesson-to-the-world-in-halting-the-virus) (and the people deserve a lot of the credit, as they were the ones who forced the govt into action immediately, when they were unwilling to do so), and everyone should have been getting ready to do the same thing. Early response was the best response, and it was led by the people, even with THIS damn government of all the ones in the world which is extra amazing.

I'm glad you came around - it's never too late in terms of social acceptance. There are STILL people in fucking denial about this, including some here still failing posts that are giving good information.

[MG1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKWOlFblLw

"When making a decision on limited equipment and having to choose between a 75 year to a 25 year old. The person with the higher expectation of life is the honorable choice."

If it were between me and a 25 year old, hot babe.............. j/k

Yeah, unless the youngster was a fucking useless crackhead, I'd gladly make the choice for them and say my goodbyes. Aside from not ever seeing the canucks hoist the cup, I've had a great life. Bucket list almost completed.

I don't think any senior would put themselves ahead of a young person.

[Mr.HappySilp]

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/donnelly-group-keg-stakehous-cactus-club-cafe-coronavirus
Lots of chain restaurant is closing and cinplex is also not opening. At least 15k people are affected……

[welfare]

Italy's healthcare was/is world-class.
Canada typically ranks in the twenties.
Good chance it could be even worse for us.

This human teleprompter of a leader is acting like the "measures" they imposed yesterday are harsh.
Just drive by your local coffee shop, or any of the many many businesses that are still open, and tell me that things don't seem to be just carrying on as normal.

And for anyone who's worried about the economy, it's dead. It has been ever since China shut down its main industrial hub.
Yesterday was the third day in the past week they had to pause trading due to mass selloffs at opening.

[welfare]

BC canceling all non life threatening surgeries now.

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/b-c-hospitals-start-cancelling-elective-surgeries-in-covid-19-preparations/

Hospitals across B.C. are cancelling elective surgeries across the board this week, to free up beds and staff for an expected surge in coronavirus patients in need of acute care.

“B.C. health authorities are directed to immediately move all hospitals in the province to outbreak response basis,” Health Minister Adrian Dix said Monday. “This means hospitals will only undertake urgent and emergency procedures, and will postpone all non-urgent scheduled surgeries.

“This will be implemented in the next three to five days, and it will result in the cancellation of thousands of scheduled, elective surgeries in BC, and free up, as you would expect, hundreds and hundreds of hospital beds.”

[buhdeh]

Italy's healthcare was/is world-class.
Canada typically ranks in the twenties.
Good chance it could be even worse for us.

This human teleprompter of a leader is acting like the "measures" they imposed yesterday are harsh.
Just drive by your local coffee shop, or any of the many many businesses that are still open, and tell me that things don't seem to be just carrying on as normal.

And for anyone who's worried about the economy, it's dead. It has been ever since China shut down its main industrial hub.
Yesterday was the third day in the past week they had to pause trading due to mass selloffs at opening.

It's funny that Trudeau thinks some strongly worded recommendations are going to do anything ... there are too many idiots in this world to rely on the honor system. smh.

[StylinRed]

Especially when so many ppl still think this is either a hoax or overreaction, my friends seem to be rather intelligent.... But their friend groups are frighteningly tinfoil-hatty

[pastarocket]

The fucking idiot strikes again with this tweet. :facepalm:

Trumpty can kiss goodbye a phase 2 completion of a trade deal between U.S. and China.
:lawl: Talking about stigmatizing a particular ethnic group. :whistle:

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

The United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus. We will be stronger than ever before!

[Bouncing Bettys]

I haven't seen evidence of it, but apparently China is trying to claim the US military released the virus. If this is the case, then Trump seem to be hitting back against those claims and rightly so.

[eclipseman]

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1239675876196958218

[J____]

I haven't seen evidence of it, but apparently China is trying to claim the US military released the virus. If this is the case, then Trump seem to be hitting back against those claims and rightly so.

So at this point this virus is either,

1. naturally occurring and got transmitted through wild animals to humans
2. China's own bio weapon that got accidentally released
3. American soldiers unknowingly brought it to Wuhan during the military games

neither of these have any concrete evidence, so just like aliens, there's no way will we ever know the truth haha.

[hud 91gt]

Why accidental release? I like the conspiracy it was on purpose. They sure acted quickly and are already on the rise! Aren’t conspiracies fun?

[Tapioca]

The government is in a tough situation. Essentially, the government would have to see this as equivalent to fighting a war and enact the Emergency Act through Parliament. There's no guarantee that it would pass in a minority situation. Also, you can be sure there would be legal challenges that would argue that limiting freedom of movement violates the Charter. Our legal system is what separates us from dictatorships.

Is this a war? I think public opinion is pretty divided.

[twitchyzero]

People have bills to pay. Ei only covers 2 weeks of staying home from work. Sure we can get a break from paying a mortgage and fortis bills Etc.
All those bills are going to add up and then were fucked when its time to pay up.

the time to act is now or maybe already too late....we can't afford to wait until friday or next week if we wanna avoid 100+ deaths a day to go into shelter mode for non-essentials

i see it two ways, we wait it out for 2-3 weeks now, or wait a week then shut down for 6 weeks+

what's more painful financially?


Friend works at downtown and he has no work starting today...
55% EI barely covers his $2.5k+ downtown rent.
There is lot of people living pay cheque to pay cheque, now suddenly have no way to pay next rent....

there's always gonna be exceptions like perhaps a single income is also supporting elderly parents and kids with disabilities, but this goes to suggest there are way too many people in vancouver living beyond their means

50% gross going into rent? no rainy day fund? no i dont think you have to make lots to manage personal finances well...it's almost unfortunate 2008 didn't really impact Vancouver because now people have to learn the hard way

[Tapioca]

The majority of RS is pretty well off, but there are lots of people in Toronto and Vancouver who live paycheque to paycheque. Many people have made the choice of living in an urban environment because of better employment prospects and recreational opportunities, despite the high cost of living.

It's not just the health impacts that the government needs to consider - there are economic and legal ones as well. Not to mention that our supply chain is linked to the States which has highly unpredictable political leadership at the moment.

We live in very interesting times.

[J____]

This virus is considered pretty mild in terms of death rate. Way more people will go bankrupt than die. Unless you have no debt and have an extra $50k to live off of for 6 months, this will hurt you financially if it gets out of hand like in China or Italy. China's economy was hit 10 times worse than predicted during the first 2 months of the year. Imagine that happening in Canada... as if the economy isn't bad enough already.

[quasi]

This virus is considered pretty mild in terms of death rate. Way more people will go bankrupt than die. Unless you have no debt and have an extra $50k to live off of for 6 months, this will hurt you financially if it gets out of hand like in China or Italy. China's economy was hit 10 times worse than predicted during the first 2 months of the year. Imagine that happening in Canada... as if the economy isn't bad enough already.

Economic damage is my biggest concern for sure, all the people that are going to be unemployed is unprecedented in our lifetime, hopefully most of that is only temporary but a lot of mom and pop business and businesses that were already teetering are going to go tits up for sure.

I'm still not sure how this is going to affect my work fully, my owner is pretty good to his workers and fairly well off I wouldn't be surprised that even if he shut down temporarily he continued to pay his management staff. That said I'm prepared for the worst, I'll continue to work at home and if things escalate I'm prepared after being laid off in 2010 I've made sure I always have a good chunk of money in the bank just in case.

[welfare]

So at this point this virus is either,

1. naturally occurring and got transmitted through wild animals to humans
2. China's own bio weapon that got accidentally released
3. American soldiers unknowingly brought it to Wuhan during the military games

neither of these have any concrete evidence, so just like aliens, there's no way will we ever know the truth haha.
Don't forget the one about it being smuggled from Winnipeg.
This one actually had legs considering the head of that lab died "suddenly" following the outbreak.

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/frank-plummer-former-head-of-the-national-microbiology-lab-dead-at-67-1.4797116

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/china-coronavirus-online-chatter-conspiracy-1.5442376

[6793026]

Heard about the rumors on US army bringing virus to wuhan competition; i told her to STFU, stop spreading rumors.
-you have not fact checked your sources and where are the sources?
-even if maybe its right... we are way beyong trying to find the source... nows it's self isolation now.... so why beat on a dead horse

Yup, Keg, Donelley's, Catcus club closed; people who are RENTING will be FOOKED. I see some who depends on their tips to live a life.. reality is going to sink in hard.
EI ain't even going to cover their basic needs.

Dilemma is either work with your tenant on rent of you better start dealing with no rental payments for 3 months until you might get a hearing.

[buhdeh]

https://twitter.com/joshchin/status/1239956356792078337?s=20

CCP must want to keep their citizens in check after all the criticism during the outbreak

China #1

[stewie]

Coronavirus: Asylum seekers irregularly crossing to Canada will be screened (https://globalnews.ca/news/6689836/asylum-seekers-canada-coronavirus/)


Wow. Flat out stupid. Let's close the borders but let's keep letting the illegals walk across freely and give them a warm welcoming hug. Would a 24hr screening process even prove anything if they weren't already showing symptoms?? Let's also give them priority quarantine space at hospitals since they've nowhere else to go.

Welcome to Canada.

[DavidNguyen]

I feel like coughing or sneezing is a crime now

[6793026]

March 17

Vancouver Coastal Health expands St. Patrick's Day closure of bars and restaurants beyond downtown core

Vancouver, BC – Vancouver Coastal Health Chief Medical Health Officer Dr. Patricia Daly is requiring that all restaurants, bars, lounges and similar venues throughout the City of Vancouver close their doors today — St. Patrick's Day — as part of efforts to contain the spread of the COVID-19. This expands the closure beyond the initially announced downtown core.

[Rallydrv]

The fucking idiot strikes again with this tweet. :facepalm:

Trumpty can kiss goodbye a phase 2 completion of a trade deal between U.S. and China.
:lawl: Talking about stigmatizing a particular ethnic group. :whistle:

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

The United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus. We will be stronger than ever before!

he is doing this because chinese govt is promoting theories that virus is from USA. he is putting china in its place.

For once i agree w/ him

[Rallydrv]

all these theories. bioweapon, American solders. lol

maybe the simplest one is usually the right one. it got transferred from wet markets/animals.

[twitchyzero]

can you still take-out?

[Hondaracer]

all these theories. bioweapon, American solders. lol

maybe the simplest one is usually the right one. it got transferred from wet markets/animals.

Like every other SARS, MERS, Avian flu, etc. All come from the same place.

[welfare]

Economic damage is my biggest concern for sure, all the people that are going to be unemployed is unprecedented in our lifetime, hopefully most of that is only temporary but a lot of mom and pop business and businesses that were already teetering are going to go tits up for sure.

I'm still not sure how this is going to affect my work fully, my owner is pretty good to his workers and fairly well off I wouldn't be surprised that even if he shut down temporarily he continued to pay his management staff. That said I'm prepared for the worst, I'll continue to work at home and if things escalate I'm prepared after being laid off in 2010 I've made sure I always have a good chunk of money in the bank just in case.

Unemployment is one thing, but if our currency sinks, which it has been, since it's tied closely to the price of oil, and I mean really sinks, it won't matter who has a job.
Governments/banks are trying to maintain currency value through measures like mass quantitative easing, (US)federal reserve Bank lending (repo), interest rates etc..

I think coming out the other end of this, those involved in trades will be best situated. Governments tend to spend on infrastructure to stimulate after recessions/depressions.
Those in retail, will almost definitely not fair well though.
Just my humble opinion, of course.

[Bouncing Bettys]

K-12 schools closed until further notice.

[tegra7]

can you still take-out?

Yes.

[Manic!]

Like every other SARS, MERS, Avian flu, etc. All come from the same place.

What about mad cow?

[Bouncing Bettys]

All kids receiving their final marks for the year. Grades 10-12 will be assessed for completion/graduation.

[StylinRed]

The government is in a tough situation. Essentially, the government would have to see this as equivalent to fighting a war and enact the Emergency Act through Parliament. There's no guarantee that it would pass in a minority situation. Also, you can be sure there would be legal challenges that would argue that limiting freedom of movement violates the Charter. Our legal system is what separates us from dictatorships.

Is this a war? I think public opinion is pretty divided.
Notwithstanding clause

Was at Royal Columbian hospital today, signs outside asking people not to visit friends/family

No ones wearing a mask, many ppl coming in saying their flu like symptoms are just allergies

Staff is like "oh okay" /shrug

One lady said she recently developed a cough, so they had her wait in a separate waiting room, and the radiologist geared up in a hazmat suit to assist her, but everyone seems very laid back... So many seniors, none seeming to take precautions, such as a mask

[westopher]

What about mad cow?
Mad cow isn’t human to human transmission though so it’s apples to cow brain stems

[Badhobz]

I was gonna go get a bubble tea and go sit on the beach. Are those closed too ?

[StylinRed]

Parks are being closed, so maybe

[Badhobz]

That ain’t good..... at least gas is cheap and I can drive around for lawls (maybe Cain has covid?)

[StylinRed]

Gas is still expensive it's like $.83 on the east coast? Ugh

[TouringTeg]

Gas dropping 5 cents daily in Victoria with Costco leading the way.

K-12 schools closed but I think daycares should also be closed with care available for essential workers' children.

[320icar]

How the fuck are people suppose to still work if schools are closed AND they close daycares?

[underscore]

^ the bigger question is why the fuck is everything still open?

Italy is nearly the point where they'll have to apply criteria before helping someone.

https://news.yahoo.com/italians-over-80-left-die-151225888.html?guccounter=1

Here's something that was put together about filing for EI in BC right now.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tv9UH8Nn5Y0ilGZ5GflvfhhXhpEaSDTbwthfTKfzZkI/preview

[Harvey Specter]

How the fuck are people suppose to still work if schools are closed AND they close daycares?

I'm thinking a full lock down is incoming.

[T4RAWR]

I'm thinking a full lock down is incoming.

It's coming :accepted:

[MG1]

It's coming :accepted:

Better start hoarding some more............... gulolol.

[Great68]

This whole thing has made me think about fast-tracking the purchase of a travel trailer. Having a house on wheels could be handy in any disaster.

[Hondaracer]

What’s the endgame? If we do 2-3 weeks of full lock down with everyone staying home, is that just to create a buffer for infection?

Those graphs are all fine and good but if you slow the curve of infection only to start opening things again in 3 weeks aren’t the numbers just going to spike again? The info on this type of stuff is severely lacking

[T4RAWR]

Better start hoarding some more............... gulolol.

Already been doing that before corona :fuckyea:

:lawl:

This whole thing has made me think about fast-tracking the purchase of a travel trailer. Having a house on wheels could be handy in any disaster.

I have a travel trailer and it's an awesome way to travel and vacation.

Did a road trip all over oregon in 2018 hauling a trailer. Definitely saved a ton of money on accommodations.

:thumbsup:

[Berzerker]

What’s the endgame? If we do 2-3 weeks of full lock down with everyone staying home, is that just to create a buffer for infection?

Those graphs are all fine and good but if you slow the curve of infection only to start opening things again in 3 weeks aren’t the numbers just going to spike again? The info on this type of stuff is severely lacking

Wow I was just typing out this exact same question.

I think they are hoping it will be like SARS and they will get a handle on it.

However this hasn't hit 3rd world countries yet. India, Africa, Brazil.

What happens when it flares back up 6 months from now? We're gonna be in the exact same position are we not?

Berz out.

[Badhobz]

Richmond Costco doesn’t seem THAT busy today. I went to buy some cereal and it was okay. Save on however was a gong show on terra nova.

[mikemhg]

This is why people are saying that this isn't ending anytime soon here.

The initial estimate of 2-3 weeks was simply to calm people down, primary the markets. The truth is, our governments aren't able to tell the full reality here, heck even Trump finally admitted yesterday this could last until July/August.

The truth is this isn't ending for at least a month if not even longer.

Can you imagine the Canadian government announcing after 2 weeks that the social distancing can end, and within that first week we hear of new cases? That would be a literal PR nightmare.

There's no way we're going back to normal in 2-3 weeks from now.

BTW anyone in Burnaby that goes to Steve Nash Brentwood, they had to close down as there have been possible cases at that gym for COVID-19. They have decided to close to complete some "deep cleaning" and apparently plan to reopen later this week, which is frankly nuts on their part.

I guess anyway to avoid closure and having to give money back to patrons who are paying a monthly rate to the gym itself?

What’s the endgame? If we do 2-3 weeks of full lock down with everyone staying home, is that just to create a buffer for infection?

Those graphs are all fine and good but if you slow the curve of infection only to start opening things again in 3 weeks aren’t the numbers just going to spike again? The info on this type of stuff is severely lacking

[Berzerker]

This whole thing has made me think about fast-tracking the purchase of a travel trailer. Having a house on wheels could be handy in any disaster.

Just dug a path for my trailer yesterday. Took me all day. Snow is still well over my knees in my yard up here.

Berz out.

[UnknownJinX]

^ the bigger question is why the fuck is everything still open?


Because people will probably freak out and not react well to such a drastic change?

Personally I am flexible as long as I can hoon around in my car with gas stations open.

[MG1]

I was at Willingdon Costco an hour ago. There was a long line up to get in. It was to control the amount of shoppers in the building. I got in right away, because I was there to pick up my meds from the pharmacy. I was supposed to be escorted to the pharmacy, but they said I could go alone. It was my grandfatherly trusting look. Anyway, there was a line up at the pharmacy, too, lol. It was quick, though. An hour previous to that I was a the downtown location. No line up. I parqed at Parq Casino to charge. Decided to go check out Costco. Man, that place is huge. At least it looks huge.

[MG1]

Richmond Costco doesn’t seem THAT busy today. I went to buy some cereal and it was okay. Save on however was a gong show on terra nova.

Sloppy seconds, I guess. Place has been picked over by the super hoarders.

[Great68]

I have a travel trailer and it's an awesome way to travel and vacation.

Did a road trip all over oregon in 2018 hauling a trailer. Definitely saved a ton of money on accommodations.

:thumbsup:

I know, I grew up with camper camping. It's great.

I borrowed my boss' Hobby trailer (A german brand that was imported) last year. Was great until a wheel bearing blew out on me on the drive home just south of Campbell river. Had to leave it behind at shop there for 3 months while sourcing and shipping parts (New bearings, brake hardware, drums) from Germany.

Lesson learned, I'll never buy imported stuff. If it was North American I could have bought parts anywhere and fixed it on the side of the road myself.