[stylez2k4]

You don't think the Federal Government can fast track in a pandemic if they want to? We could easily build a facility to make vaccines in 11 months if the funding was there and the Govt. was behind it to allow for a fast track build. The reason everything takes so long is because of permits and approvals, you don't think they could influence that to happen quickly in a situation like this? We can build a new hospital with 100's of rooms from the ground up in 14 months without expediting the build, you don't think we can design and build a laboratory/production facility in 11 months expidited?

There is absolutely no comparison in building a pharmaceutical facility that can produce millions of vials to a hospital with a couple of hundred rooms. Pharmaceutical facility takes years to construct and billions of dollars. You need to construct the facility, procure the necessary equipment, hire and train your personnel, qualify your equipment, validate your process, and have it approved by Health Canada. All of this during pandemic.

I work for a pharmaceutical firm and we had trouble procuring cleanroom supplies (e.g. gloves, masks), cleaning supplies (e.g. Quaternary ammonium, alcohol), and vials because everything was in short supply. We wanted new equipment installed but no one would come on-site for installation and validation because of travel restrictions.

How long does a new drug normally take, test, human trials ect. to get approved after it's already made? years right? How long did the covid vaccines take to create and get approved? Less than a year right? Wait, but that can't be done yet here we have it, how so?

Technically the COVID-19 vaccines are not approved, they are granted emergency use authorization.

In b4 “Hondaracer isn’t a scientist!!”

But my wife’s old company which made a fairly complicated medical device which is inserted into your body had a very nice office/manufacturering facility in the lower mainland. This also included a “clean room” which the assembly is done in. Now this is a smaller private company but this clean room which isn’t that big took months and months to build then you need to test and certify if I believe before you can actually start using it

Again you are demonstrating your complete ignorance of pharmaceutical manufacturing. I agree that you can construct a cleanroom and have it certified within a couple of months. However, you are discounting basically everything else that relates to pharmaceutical manufacturing.

[GGnoRE]

Yeah, Turd is doing an awful job with Covid purchases and distribution.

Having said that, I believe that we should not let "Erin the Tool" off the hook either. The Conservatives, the official Opposition party in Canada, under Erin the Tool put some of their attention on this issue recently.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/o-toole-calls-for-relocation-of-beijing-olympics-due-to-china-s-genocide-of-uighurs-1.5310842



lol what? You can criticize O'toole for other things but why should O'toole be on the hook for a vaccine distribution plan that he did not directly oversee? Unless both parties were given equal opportunities at creating and rolling out a vaccine distribution, how could you say the Cons under O'toole would've done worse?


Really??? Erin the Tool politicizing a sporting event in the winter Olympics in China right in the middle of a pandemic? He is calling the government to ask the IOC to relocate the next winter Olympics from China to another country because of alleged crimes against a minority group in China.

Talk about knowing the priorities in Canada now. :facepalm: Erin the Tool thinks that Canadians really care about where the next winter Olympics will be held in 2024 compared to the pandemic??


You don't think the opposition party can multi-task and raise attention to multiple issues at the same time? You might not care but I do care about where the next Olympics are held. It should not be held in China similar to how the 1936 Summer Olympics should never have been held in Berlin, hosted by Nazi regime, under Adolf Hitler who saw it as an opportunity to promote his government and ideals of racial supremacy. Prior to the 1936 Olympics, Germany has already shown its anti-sematic colors. Have you read about the genocide (mass rape, sterilization, torture, concentration camps etc.) being carried out against the Uighurs before calling it an "alleged crime"? You also do know that China is detaining two Canadian civilians as hostage for over two years as an act of hostage diplomacy? There are many parallels between CCP and Nazi Germany. For one, they want to destroy democracy around the world. First its Hong Kong, similar to how it was first Poland, and next is Taiwan etc. This is not a small issue and if Canada wants to be a world leader, we need to step up and push our allies to confront China together.

[Hondaracer]

There is absolutely no comparison in building a pharmaceutical facility that can produce millions of vials to a hospital with a couple of hundred rooms. Pharmaceutical facility takes years to construct and billions of dollars. You need to construct the facility, procure the necessary equipment, hire and train your personnel, qualify your equipment, validate your process, and have it approved by Health Canada. All of this during pandemic.

I work for a pharmaceutical firm and we had trouble procuring cleanroom supplies (e.g. gloves, masks), cleaning supplies (e.g. Quaternary ammonium, alcohol), and vials because everything was in short supply. We wanted new equipment installed but no one would come on-site for installation and validation because of travel restrictions.



Technically the COVID-19 vaccines are not approved, they are granted emergency use authorization.



Again you are demonstrating your complete ignorance of pharmaceutical manufacturing. I agree that you can construct a cleanroom and have it certified within a couple of months. However, you are discounting basically everything else that relates to pharmaceutical manufacturing.

It’s cute that you pick apart my posts on some abstract level when the basis of it is just a generalization from my relationships with the people involved in that process. But then you make it sound like I’m trying to come off as some expert in the field.

Of course I’m ignorant to it. I didn’t construct it, I wasn’t there, outside of the general construction aspects I have no inside knowledge of assembling one. My experience is based on a first hand account by Somone who also does not understand every aspect of said procedures.

Why not grace us with your infinite knowledge on the subject? You seem to be the real expert.

[quasi]

There is absolutely no comparison in building a pharmaceutical facility that can produce millions of vials to a hospital with a couple of hundred rooms. Pharmaceutical facility takes years to construct and billions of dollars. You need to construct the facility, procure the necessary equipment, hire and train your personnel, qualify your equipment, validate your process, and have it approved by Health Canada. All of this during pandemic.




Lol, I'm sure you know all about production of vaccines but the fact you actually think it costs billions of dollars to construct a lab shows what little you actually know about the cost of construction.

You realize they are building the new St Pauls Hospital in Vancouver including all furnishings for 2 billion right? I'll give you a lab is going to have some expensive equipment more so than a hospital but I'm talking about a significant sized hospital like top 15 largest in Canada around 550 rooms with a footprint bigger than a multiple football fields and from what I remember around 10 stories high. How big of a lab you think we need?

https://www.on-sitemag.com/construction/pcl-picked-to-build-2-1b-replacement-for-st-pauls-hospital-at-new-vancouver-site/1003971939/

You're right I have no idea about how long after construction it would take to get up and running after completed, I wouldn't assume years but I'll take your word for it lol.

They are currently building a lab in Saskatoon at the University of Sask. but like I said I feel they left it way to long to get started.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/vido-intervac-vaccine-manufacturing-facility-phase-1-clinical-trial-1.5899559

[stylez2k4]

Lol, I'm sure you know all about production of vaccines but the fact you actually think it costs billions of dollars to construct a lab shows what little you actually know about the cost of construction.

A pharmaceutical manufacturing facility is not a lab. The complexity of a manufacturing site far exceeds that of a lab.

You realize they are building the new St Pauls Hospital in Vancouver including all furnishings for 2 billion right? I'll give you a lab is going to have some expensive equipment more so than a hospital but I'm talking about a significant sized hospital like top 15 largest in Canada around 550 rooms with a footprint bigger than a multiple football fields and from what I remember around 10 stories high. How big of a lab you think we need?

https://www.on-sitemag.com/construction/pcl-picked-to-build-2-1b-replacement-for-st-pauls-hospital-at-new-vancouver-site/1003971939/

Not comparable in terms of the facilities and equipment required.

You're right I have no idea about how long after construction it would take to get up and running after completed, I wouldn't assume years but I'll take your word for it lol.

They are currently building a lab in Saskatoon at the University of Sask. but like I said I feel they left it way to long to get started.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/vido-intervac-vaccine-manufacturing-facility-phase-1-clinical-trial-1.5899559

They are a long long way from producing anything. Their product just entered into phase 1 trial.

[twitchyzero]

so moderna already had the facilities, training, equipment, mass distribution networks in place 6mos ago? what are they doing that we are not?

not that they aren't hurdles but i'm not getting the sense of urgency within canada to end this pandemic

whatever we tried in the past year isn't sustainable long term

[Hondaracer]

A pharmaceutical manufacturing facility is not a lab. The complexity of a manufacturing site far exceeds that of a lab.



Not comparable in terms of the facilities and equipment required.



They are a long long way from producing anything. Their product just entered into phase 1 trial.

Great input bro, will read again

[Manic!]

so moderna already had the facilities, training, equipment, mass distribution networks in place 6mos ago? what are they doing that we are not?

not that they aren't hurdles but i'm not getting the sense of urgency within canada to end this pandemic

whatever we tried in the past year isn't sustainable long term

The are a company that manufactures vaccines. The equipment used to make vaccines is not off the shelf. You can't just place an order on Amazon. Knee jerk reactions is not what be need. We need long term plans. Either we pay companies to open up plants in Canada or we rely on government funded research. I don't think the cons would have been happy if 3-4 years ago JT decided to spend billions on research facility's and factories.

[GLOW]

i got you quasi, i know a nurse at st pauls...she'll know how many billions it really is Kappa

[quasi]

A pharmaceutical manufacturing facility is not a lab. The complexity of a manufacturing site far exceeds that of a lab.



Not comparable in terms of the facilities and equipment required.


This we can agree on, they aren't comparable in cost either the Hospital due to the shear size will cost far more then any facility we'd build to manufacturer vaccines. I stand by what I said, you might know about the manufacturing of vaccines but your knowledge on the cost of building the facilities to produce them is limited. It wouldn't cost billions of dollars, no way no how I really think you just pulled that number out of the air.

[twitchyzero]

GSK has vaccine production in toronto, also there's another in QC city

Both the co-chairs of the [covid-19 vaccine] task force have conflicts of interest with companies producing the vaccines and the terms of the contracts are being kept secret. Among other things, we don’t know what price Canada is paying for each vaccine, what the timeline for delivery is, whether there are penalties for delays and how the contracts are being enforced, if at all.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/018/012/this_is_fine.jpg

https://theconversation.com/the-roots-of-canadas-covid-19-vaccine-shortage-go-back-decades-154792

[Manic!]

This we can agree on, they aren't comparable in cost either the Hospital due to the shear size will cost far more then any facility we'd build to manufacturer vaccines. I stand by what I said, you might know about the manufacturing of vaccines but your knowledge on the cost of building the facilities to produce them is limited. It wouldn't cost billions of dollars, no way no how I really think you just pulled that number out of the air.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5518734/


50 to 700M USD
Example: It took Pfizer five years and 600M USD to build a manufacturing site in the US [17]




Vaccine manufacturing overview

Vaccine manufacture is one of the most challenging industries. Even the most basic manufacturing steps necessary to produce vaccines in a manner that is safe, effective, and consistent over the life cycle of a vaccine are difficult to execute [7]. Outcomes can vary widely due to the nearly infinite combinations of biological variability in basic starting materials, the microorganism itself, the environmental condition of the microbial culture, the knowledge and experience of the manufacturing technician, and the steps involved in the purification processes. To add to the complexity, the methods used to analyze the biological processes and antigens resulting from vaccine production often have high inherent variability. Failure to manage these risks can result in costly product recalls, and suspensions and penalties may be assessed if a manufacturer fails to fulfil supply agreements. In addition, lack of supply can disrupt routine immunization programs and negatively impact national public health outcomes.

[westopher]

I’m generalizing, but there’s a lot of talk about just making vaccines here from those that said things like “I don’t trust vaccines that come to market that quickly, we don’t know long term side effects.”
Canada was promised a lot of vaccines from various manufactures that seemed like they would have been here in a near instant after approval. Approval happened far quicker than expected leaving no real time to plan for such a vast manufacturing ramp up in a facility that didn’t exist yet. This has been all guessing and gambles from the get go and Canada has done moderately ok. It could have just as easily gone extremely well, or absolutely fucking terrible. We can talk about how fast Belgium is vaccinating people but in the same breath it’s worth mentioning they have one of the highest death rates per capita in the world, if not the highest of any real populated country for that number to be a sample size that’s comparable to Canada. Would we still want to trade for that position?

[twitchyzero]

another 600+ new in BC
highest daily since 1/7

[6793026]

^ cause of superbowl gatherings?

[JDMDreams]

^ Church gatherings? Penthouse parties? Kelowna protests? Reopen all the economies ??? Profit

[Teriyaki]

People definitely starting to flout the rules. Parties being busted left and right, but for every one busted there's likely many many smaller gatherings that are getting by unnoticed.

Covid fatigue is real. The social gathering ban has been in place for how long now?

[twitchyzero]

just anecdotal but saw quite a few CNY gatherings on my feed
i think people stopped caring when they banned mental welfare indefinitely

[spoon.ek9]

Got the second shot today. Ready to have my organs controlled mobile styles via 5g by that evil bastard Bill Gates now.

Jokes aside, didn't get any of the sleepiness I did from the first shot :considered:

[JDMDreams]

Because they reopened everything, you mean my boss can tell me to go meet with random strangers for 8 hours a day to do business but I can't visit my family? :fulloffuck:

[SSM_DC5]

Got the second shot today. Ready to have my organs controlled mobile styles via 5g by that evil bastard Bill Gates now.

Jokes aside, didn't get any of the sleepiness I did from the first shot :considered:

Report back in 24 hours

[spoon.ek9]

well it's next morning now and i'm fine. arm is sore. apparently yesterday 4 people in my department called in sick lol.

[SkunkWorks]

well it's next morning now and i'm fine. arm is sore.

Try to not grip so hard, or consider switching arms. :badpokerface:

[Teriyaki]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/with-variants-current-health-measures-not-enough-to-stop-pandemic-resurgence-modelling-1.5315741

So, with the new variants, even if we maintain our status quo of "zero social interactions" we're going to get clobbered.

What could we possibly do, looks like a no-win situation aside from buckling down and hope you don't get anything until everyone's vaccinated.

With the new variants, it's going to wreck havoc on "survivor" areas like us that because of survivor bias I think. Like, everyone's used to their routines now and because it's gotten them this far with no ill-effect even if the new variants are that much more infectious.

[twitchyzero]

predicting 3rd wave might happen in weeks spiking much harder than this winter assuming ease of restrictions and continued vaccination shortages

does anyone have the luxury of working from anywhere and just gonna go ride it out in New Zealand for a few years?

[CivicBlues]

New Zealand ain't gonna let you in bro

[whitev70r]

Human race is effed ... got brought to its knees by an invisible mutating virus.

[spoon.ek9]

Try to not grip so hard, or consider switching arms. :badpokerface:

bruh you'd have to be a noob to get the shot in your jerking arm lol.

ANYWAYS, 24 hours later and I'm still fine. 3 other coworkers who got also got their second dose came to work today with no issues as well.

[twitchyzero]

According to an survey of about 1,600 Canadians conducted online in early February, only 48 per cent of people claim to be following COVID-19 restrictions and guidelines all the time.

In B.C., that number drops to 34 per cent — which is 14 to 22 points lower than other provinces.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/poll-pandemic-rules-1.5920437

also we hit 12k vaccinated daily

[punkwax]

Human race is effed ... got brought to its knees by an invisible mutating virus.

Because some effed up human ate something humans shouldn’t be eating in the first place.

[donk.]

predicting 3rd wave might happen in weeks spiking much harder than this winter assuming ease of restrictions and continued vaccination shortages

does anyone have the luxury of working from anywhere and just gonna go ride it out in New Zealand for a few years?

New Zealand ain't gonna let you in bro

Im in twitchy, i need one more reason to bail vancouver. Already got my NZ licences sorted pre-covid, all we gotta do now is apply for the visas.

Nah, NZ is thirsty for for certain skills CivicBlue

[CivicBlues]

right now? They're not letting anyone in except for citizens and "critical health workers" I doubt either of you fall into those categories.

[Obsideon]

I wonder if Taiwan is accepting? :considered:

[GGnoRE]

^ friend recently tried to go to see his significant other but couldn't unless you had some special permit/visa. I think the restrictions are similar in South Korea and Australia for foreigners, countries that are seemingly doing much better hmm

[Hondaracer]

Doing “much better” than everything open and the only real restriction is not having large gatherings? Lol

On CKNW they were saying Australia and other places that were perceived as doing well are now back to square one pretty much

[pastarocket]

Self-care bingo card from the BC government. People are pissed at the NDP for being tone deaf and condescending.

-make a blanket fort for self-care.

:lawl:


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/8cc7bd74da23d3c079c3365f0e9fa3b8.jpg

Check out this story from NEWS 1130: https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/02/19/b-c-government-slammed-self-care-bingo/

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) — Tone-deaf, condescending, callous, dumb, shockingly bad. Those are some of the reactions to the B.C. government’s tweet offering people in the province self-care tips to help cope with the mental health fallout of the pandemic.

The responses came flooding in almost immediately – mostly in the form of quote tweets -many any with the same two-word-long profane phrase.

A number of responses took issue with the emphasis on self-care instead of government action.

“British Columbians experiencing mental illness can’t find a family physician or psychiatrist to manage their care. Making a blanket fort is not the answer,” one user wrote.


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[The Producer]

Doing “much better” than everything open and the only real restriction is not having large gatherings? Lol

On CKNW they were saying Australia and other places that were perceived as doing well are now back to square one pretty much


Semi on topic - whenever anyone talks about Australia’s situation I casually mention that it’s summer there (and not influenza season) and we were pretty solid in the summer too. Turns out there are grown adults that aren’t aware of this.


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[SkinnyPupp]

Self-care bingo card from the BC government. People are pissed at the NDP for being tone deaf and condescending.

-make a blanket fort for self-care.

:lawl:


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/8cc7bd74da23d3c079c3365f0e9fa3b8.jpg

Check out this story from NEWS 1130: https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/02/19/b-c-government-slammed-self-care-bingo/

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) — Tone-deaf, condescending, callous, dumb, shockingly bad. Those are some of the reactions to the B.C. government’s tweet offering people in the province self-care tips to help cope with the mental health fallout of the pandemic.

The responses came flooding in almost immediately – mostly in the form of quote tweets -many any with the same two-word-long profane phrase.

A number of responses took issue with the emphasis on self-care instead of government action.

“British Columbians experiencing mental illness can’t find a family physician or psychiatrist to manage their care. Making a blanket fort is not the answer,” one user wrote.


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"Had Fun" :fappery:

[twitchyzero]

Semi on topic - whenever anyone talks about Australia’s situation I casually mention that it’s summer there (and not influenza season) and we were pretty solid in the summer too. Turns out there are grown adults that aren’t aware of this.



probably because they've never left vancouver or vegas

we're not quite in the clear yet for 2nd wave

i'm not convinced we'll even get what we had last summer (maybe safe 6 but still no intraprovince travel)

[GGnoRE]

Doing “much better” than everything open and the only real restriction is not having large gatherings? Lol

On CKNW they were saying Australia and other places that were perceived as doing well are now back to square one pretty much

Sure, vancouver’s done well. Take a look at ontario and quebec. Toronto, the most populous city in canada, has been in lockdown since Nov 2020 and its still in a lockdown. Do u see that anywhere in the three countries i listed?

[whitev70r]

https://twitter.com/CTVNewsBen/status/1363229107077607426

https://youtu.be/UXUtfAZba60

[spoon.ek9]

seems like these idiots will always be around.

[westopher]

I just cant understand it. Like I get not wanting lockdowns, I can empathize with the argument that the damage to the economy, peoples mental health etc. from being unable to work, socialize, travel is causing drastic effects on people.
What I can't ever understand is the fight against a fucking piece of cloth on your face, the mentality of "it being an excuse to instil communism" or it being a hoax. If you want people to take you seriously you have to not be SO FUCKING STUPID AS FUCK. Like you think this is going as the government planned? Losing billions of dollars to keep people from going to work or see their parents for Christmas? Sweet fucking plan, so sensible.

[Teriyaki]

seems like these idiots will always be around.

Does it make me a bad person when I sometimes wish universal healthcare wasn't so universal at certain times?

[whitev70r]

^ no ... I proposed that if you attend a rally and get Covid then if you go to hospital, it's, 'Sorry but we don't treat hoax viruses, you don't have anything, you're discharged. Bye.'

What is really stupid is even if you're anti-mask, why are you such an asshole to those who want to wear one. Doesn't the other person have the 'freedom' to do what they want as well.

[Hondaracer]

Damn.. so they got my DNA when i had my test? :(

[SkinnyPupp]

LIBERATE CANADA!!!

[spoon.ek9]

I've talked to several people (both healthcare workers and regular folks) and we've all come up with the "yeah ok, go ahead and believe that horse shit but don't come to us when you actually get sick" idea lol. Obviously we'd still help them but man, I would love for some of these die hard idiots to sign a waiver saying they won't seek medical help when they realize they were wrong.

[GLOW]

latest in anti-masker stirring shit up for a local business

https://globalnews.ca/news/7652694/vancouver-anti-mask-confrontation-kerrisdale-cameras/

[GGnoRE]

This is the news that we've been waiting for. Data from Israel showing vaccines are preventing transmission and infection on top of preventing hospitalization and death. UK variant was also the dominant strain in Israel during this study.

From FT.com, "The Covid-19 vaccine made by BioNTech and Pfizer has been highly effective at preventing infection in Israel, according to the first real-world data showing that vaccination stops transmission of the virus. The results gathered by Israel’s health ministry, and seen by the Financial Times, showed that the vaccine was 89 per cent effective at preventing infection of any kind and 94 per cent effective against symptomatic infection."

https://www.ft.com/content/2626ec05-5bc5-4121-afc4-be62c29c4894

[JDMDreams]

^^ so you mean it's not the blanket forts?

[pastarocket]

Eight exposures to the Covid UK variant in 7 schools in Surrey and Delta:

SURREY (NEWS 1130) – There are worries about COVID-19 variants in schools south of the Fraser River with eight exposures now linked to the B.1.1.7 variant of the virus at seven schools in Surrey and Delta, as teachers push for districts to be given more power to deal with cases on a school-by-school basis.

“I’m feeling very concerned for my members and all the people working at the schools, along with the kids, for how they will go to school safely,” says Mat Westphal, president of the Surrey Teachers’ Association. “I wonder how many parents will feel safe sending their children to school.”

Westphal would like to see more decisive action from the province to allow stricter rules at a local level in classrooms.

According to the BC School COVID Tracker Facebook page, there are eight confirmed exposures to “variants of concern” as of Monday morning, all in the Fraser Health region.

In Surrey, there are two exposures listed at Tamanawis Secondary, and one each at Woodward Hill Elementary, Surrey Traditional Elementary, James Ardiel Elementary, AHP Matthew Elementary, and the independent Gobind Sarvar School.

In Delta, a variant has been confirmed in an exposure at Hellings Elementary.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/02/22/variant-exposures-surrey-delta/

[Hondaracer]

Lol..look at the demographics of the areas those schools are in..same shit as in the summer etc.

How many people that go to all those schools live in multi generational house holds with 8+ ppl

[mikemhg]

COVID outbreak on 2 floors at VGH right now, outside of the actual COVID units.

I believe 2 nurses were infected, and 5 patients.

What's interesting here is that nurses are vaccinated, unless they skipped their vaccination. If they were in fact vaccinated, it'll be interesting to find out how they still ended up contracting COVID. Trying to get more details on that.

[westopher]

COVID outbreak on 2 floors at VGH right now, outside of the actual COVID units.

I believe 2 nurses were infected, and 5 patients.

What's interesting here is that nurses are vaccinated, unless they skipped their vaccination. If they were in fact vaccinated, it'll be interesting to find out how they still ended up contracting COVID. Trying to get more details on that.
Not all nurses outside the units working directly with Covid patients are vaccinated even with the first dose yet.

[SSM_DC5]

^ to add to that. Visitors are allowed in the hospital.

[pastarocket]

-watching the Covid update on Global News Live video feed on Facebook.

Minister of Education is arguing that no changes in mask policy are needed in terms of giving each school district their own powers to determine policy.
Bad idea. She argues that rapid testing for teachers and staff at a Surrey School indicate no spread of variant.

All negative test results.

There, no change in mask policy for all school districts in BC.

Dr. Bonnie is giving her Covid case numbers update on Tuesday at 3pm.

For anyone on RS that is a parent with kids in school, what are your thoughts about this "One uniform policy for masks " for all school districts? Does this policy make sense in light of the Covid variant cases in Surrey and Delta schools? :suspicious:

I am hearing news stories that some teachers decided to open windows in their classrooms because of poor ventilation.
Then those windows at certain schools were nailed shut.

[Bouncing Bettys]

COVID outbreak on 2 floors at VGH right now, outside of the actual COVID units.

I believe 2 nurses were infected, and 5 patients.

What's interesting here is that nurses are vaccinated, unless they skipped their vaccination. If they were in fact vaccinated, it'll be interesting to find out how they still ended up contracting COVID. Trying to get more details on that.
Probably because stuff like this, which I posted back on the 4th, still happens:
Earlier this week I heard a story from a nurse I know at Royal Inland Hospital in Kamloops, where there is currently an outbreak. I didn't hear this directly from her so take it for what it's worth.

She has received the first of 2 doses of the vaccine. Her supervisor essentially bullied her into treating patients in a room where the conditions for transmission are high (I think she said it was hyper-oxygenated?). She asked for a protective suit beyond the N95 and was told they don't have any. Her supervisor lied and said the patients in the room had all tested negative. So she went in and did her job. After she had come out, the doctor on the floor told her that no, they had not tested negative, their results were still pending.

I haven't heard if those results came back negative, but I hope she stays safe. Maybe she and others should take this kind of treatment to their union rep or even the press.

[Expresso]

Not all nurses outside the units working directly with Covid patients are vaccinated even with the first dose yet.

That and the vaccine efficacy rate isn't 100%.

[Mr.Money]

it takes about 2 weeks before you start feeling it after contracting covid getting sick with it

the vaccine takes about 12 days inside your body to get some of the blueprint what it needs to fight when infected.....

fully vaccinated you can still give anyone covid & there is no clue anything after this..

[westopher]

That and the vaccine efficacy rate isn't 100%.
Yeah this would be a way different ballgame if you just got a shot and were guaranteed to just eradicate this. None of the vaccines are 100%, so it should come as no surprise that transmission is still possible.

[Ch28]

Video of confrontation between unmasked customer, staff at B.C. Canadian Tire under investigation (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/video-of-confrontation-between-unmasked-customer-staff-at-b-c-canadian-tire-under-investigation-1.5320849)

Anti-masker got what he deserved :lol

[JDMDreams]

Can't find the video just a screen shot, wanted to see the beat down

[BlackV62K2]

Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/burnaby/comments/lqcmju/this_guy_is_a_total_clown_respect_to_canadian/

[JDMDreams]

Too bad he didn't get sparta kicked in the balls like the lady that spat on the bus.

[underscore]

What I can't ever understand is the fight against a fucking piece of cloth on your face, the mentality of "it being an excuse to instil communism" or it being a hoax. If you want people to take you seriously you have to not be SO FUCKING STUPID AS FUCK. Like you think this is going as the government planned? Losing billions of dollars to keep people from going to work or see their parents for Christmas? Sweet fucking plan, so sensible.

https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s600x600/151782447_4460523883968588_5531765902562810369_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_l68e8mHaFUAX_6Szah&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr3-1.fna&tp=7&oh=d4988e63f859d2a6a8128a0326160796&oe=6059A25B

[GLOW]

takes deep breathes and then screams i can't breath several times...:concentrate:

the response was correct "no one is choking you", that was not an applied rear naked choke, he was just being held imo

[Obsideon]

Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/burnaby/comments/lqcmju/this_guy_is_a_total_clown_respect_to_canadian/

Reading the comments in that thread triggers me lol
https://media.tenor.com/images/7c1bb9474deb8049534322327aeab7a5/tenor.gif

[BlackV62K2]

Reading the comments in that thread triggers me lol
https://media.tenor.com/images/7c1bb9474deb8049534322327aeab7a5/tenor.gif

I lose faith in humanity when I read some of the comments on Reddit. Not just in that thread but in general.

[Obsideon]

A part of me wants to thinks they are trolling but I'm pretty sure that's how they really think ... it's scary.

[BIC_BAWS]

Too bad he didn't get sparta kicked in the balls like the lady that spat on the bus.

vid link?

[BIC_BAWS]

Reading the comments in that thread triggers me lol
https://media.tenor.com/images/7c1bb9474deb8049534322327aeab7a5/tenor.gif

The cross posts tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649786788797218836/813941225979772948/unknown.png

[twitchyzero]

'only' 1 death today

[JDMDreams]

O she wasn't sparta kicked but then the results were still good:notbad:

https://youtu.be/u47AkxZ5LEU

vid link?

[mikemhg]

I still get triggered when I hear that lady yell "OMGGGG what's wrong with you?".

Lady or not, you spit on me, you're going flying regardless.

[StylinRed]

The Canadian tire guys went too far, but the guy is clearly an asshat

[JDMDreams]

^^ but it's private property so you gotta play by their rules. Don't wear a mask? Don't come in. There's still those Karen's that say they have a health issue so they have an "exemption" depending on the company they might let that fly. Also the idiots that wear the plastic transparent mask.

[GLOW]

isn't mall security are allowed to do certain things within reason under certain circumstances...seems like he refused to leave and was getting in people's faces, without a mask...security didn't stomp a mudhole in him, they subdued him. they were actually a lot more passive then some rcmp takedowns i've seen posted on RS tbh...

[Mr.Money]

what's on video they can easily act in self defense.


in his case it doesn't help he's yelling ASAP about a mask, that he was "Acting aggressive threatening the safety around him" in his manner.....Is he High on Meth?, Does he have a weapon hidden on him?.


nobody even knows him and they are saying "What a Fucking Idiot"....


so imagine what the Legal law system with a judge is thinking right now.

[Hondaracer]

In b4 legal system sided with him

[pastarocket]

This is disgusting news to hear:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/02/24/conspiracists-fantasizing-henry-execution/

These motherfuckers with their misogynistic attitudes fantasize about killing Dr. Bonnie.

Clearly, the double standard in much of our society, and in the world is shown towards the way men treat other men in positions of leadership compared to women in a leadership role.

These Covidiots want Dr. Bonnie dead. Imagine that! Our province's chief medical officer has a tough job of trying to keep British Columbians safe from Covid. These motherfuckers go on a livestream to give comments about wanting Dr. Bonnie to be dead. Some of these pieces of shit also voice support for liking Hitler. :facepalm:

You notice that there are no death threats against Health Minister Adrian Dix? Big double standard.

Bunch of insecure bullies hate Dr. Bonnie, a woman in a leadership position, but do not threaten Dix.

Dr. Bonnie needs the RCMP to provide security for her at her home because these Covidiots do not like the notion of a woman in a leadership position telling them how to live their lives in order to protect them from Covid.

She reported to the media that she has received death threats from people.

What losers!

Leave Dr. Henry alone! :mad:

-from the article:

When Parhar asks the gathering’s apparent host, seven-time Juno nominee John Stetch, what he has to say to Henry, the pianist responds: “Yeah, she can go [beep] herself,” making a beeping sound to censor himself.

When another attendee suggests someone is a supporter of Adolf Hitler, Parhar says, “Hitler was a good guy, maybe.”

“Of course he was,” a man identified as “Chris” says flatly.

Parhar then asks “Chris” what he has to say to Henry.

“She needs to be hanging from the nooses,” he responds.

“Yes!” Parhar says, laughing.

Parhar later says of Henry: “She can suck it, anyways. Some lead between the eyes would be good for her. I’m just saying it’s a good idea.”

Chris says he favours capital punishment for Henry: “Tried in a court – in a fair court. Give them a fair trial and then hung.”

“Or a firing line,” Parhar suggests.

[The Producer]

no vaccine announcements? AZ approved.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/astra-zeneca-covid-19-health-canada-1.5929079

J&J is imminent in the states too.

too many WFH's that don't mind how long this is taking I guess. Every single day costs $ .

get us to 70+ age covered and the rest of us will take our chances.

Can't wait to get back to real income and real life ASAP

[Teriyaki]

I'm enjoying WFH life much more than I thought I would. Not having to commute 1 hour to the office and back for the majority of the office is a huge cost and time savings. I think a lot of offices are going to have some tough decisions to make when the vaccines are in full circulation.

Yes, rest of life is basically on hold though. No socializing, no travelling, no casual visits to restaurants with co-workers even, not to mention the mental toll it's taking. These are huge huge trade-off's, looking forward to some sense of normality.

[whitev70r]

Ideally, I like to work 2 days in office and 3 at home. Perfect blend of time and cost saving balanced with sanity, social interaction, and effectiveness.

[JDMDreams]

Welcome to Florida, as someone called it eariler on this thread:okay:

[Mr.Money]

i wouldn't even give a shit to look at anyones's face while at work.... call me anti-social but its less bullshit i would have to think about when im focused in my goal.

[68style]

^ Strong username to post content ratio

[whitev70r]

i wouldn't even give a shit to look at anyones's face while at work.... call me anti-social but its less bullshit i would have to think about when im focused in my goal.

Damn, you must be a lot of fun to be around. Bro, you were born for this pandemic.

[68style]

I think he needs a new job, sounds like a toxic environment... I felt that way at some places before where I hated everyone I worked with and their stupid daily banter so much and it was because we were getting micromanaged to shit and peers were pitted against each other so I knew none of them were being genuine in any way... every interaction became a waste of time formality

[dark0821]

^I also agree it really depends on the job environment and the your direct manager....

Same company, same department...

1) Manager A tells me how good I am at taking care of the clients and suppliers, always friendly and easy to approach

2) Manager B tells me I am too casual... why do I always start my email with "I hope you had a wonderful weekend" if it was a Monday, or "I hope you had a safe trip to work this morning" or that snow day we had last week". He told me to be concise, straight to the point, my emails should be no more than 1 to 2 sentances long...

So yea... lolol... just depends lolol...

I have had clients and suppliers who I became close friends with outside of work... ofc that gets congratz on ... or frowned up on.. depending on the co-worker/manager I am working with... so yea... lolol

Some people just want work to be work...and no bs....

Other people want work to be a bit more than doing the grind...and getting paid...

[spoon.ek9]

February is finally over. I thought last month was crazy with 47 hours of OT...

This month? FIFTY SEVEN hours OT. Almost unbelievable that I could have easily topped 60 but I seriously didn't want to lol.

:drunk::drunk::drunk:

[GLOW]

February is finally over. I thought last month was crazy with 47 hours of OT...

This month? FIFTY SEVEN hours OT. Almost unbelievable that I could have easily topped 60 but I seriously didn't want to lol.

:drunk::drunk::drunk:

sounds brutal...the upside though...

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Tg6H3bvu1IgrEQHmXo/200.gif

[spoon.ek9]

is that a gif of the gov't taking my money?

[GLOW]

the middle guy is your employer, the guy on the right is the tax man, the guy on the left is you trying to balance out how to spend what's left over Kappa

[mikemhg]

So it looks like the whole 3-day hotel quarantine has been rolled out in absolutely terrible fashion. People paying for meals up-front, and getting a slice of toast for breakfast :lol

What a joke, very little organization or oversight on this rollout.

[Hondaracer]

Big surprise

[westopher]

Clearly these hotels saw the government moneybags contract and went out of their way to make things shitty, but I don’t think they thought they were gonna go full FYRE festival.
Ja rule was just named Canada’s minister of quarantine.
On a positive note, BC announced everyone will receive their first vaccination by July, 2 full months ahead of schedule.

[The Producer]

On a positive note, BC announced everyone will receive their first vaccination by July, 2 full months ahead of schedule.

excellent news

whatever it takes to remove all restrictions ASAP and get small business back to maximum capacity

[westopher]

Now all I’m really waiting on approval is the anal swabs. Daily testing a possibility?

[Teriyaki]

Now all I’m really waiting on approval is the anal swabs. Daily testing a possibility?

Sign me up. Up the butt > Up the brain?

On related news, Japan's foreign minister is calling out China for disproportionately subjecting Japanese to the butt swab.

[twitchyzero]

On a positive note, BC announced everyone will receive their first vaccination by July, 2 full months ahead of schedule.

drugmaker: data supports 4 weeks between shots

dr henry: so LeTs PuSh it to 4 MONTHS!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nemer-henry-vaccine-interval-experiment-1.5932714

[Hondaracer]

Canada's chief science adviser issues warning about B.C.'s 'experiment' with vaccine timing

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nemer-henry-vaccine-interval-experiment-1.5932714

TLDR; The Bc govt. basically using the population as an experimental group going against manufacturers suggested intervals in shots

Guess it doesn’t really matter in the end if it provides 4 months of protection but still kinda fucked up essentially having Bonnie make calls that are counter to the manufacturers recommendations..

[MG1]

Could be a good game plan............ vaccinate as many people as possible in the least amount of time. Get it under control. Hopefully, it will work. if it doesn't, it may not have made a difference since viruses tend to mutate to avoid being eradicated. In two months, things can change quite a bit. The now not so new strains are pretty scary. There are probably a whole host of mutated strains out there that we haven't seen or heard of yet, ready to take hold. Ones that kill not only the old, but everybody.

[whitev70r]

In July ... Dr. B, "Well, it appears that 4 months apart was not the best choice, we're going to have to re-vaccinate everyone while we keep the current restrictions. Let's be patient, be kind, and be calm."

[whitev70r]

Fauci: U.S. must stick with two-shot strategy for Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna vaccines

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/03/01/fauci-defends-two-shot-strategy/
The government’s top infectious-disease expert on Monday reiterated that the United States will stick to a plan to inoculate tens of millions of Americans with two doses of coronavirus vaccine, as calls mount to protect more people by letting them get one shot now.

“There’s risks on either side,” Anthony S. Fauci told The Washington Post, warning that shifting to a single-dose strategy for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines could leave people less protected, enable variants to spread and possibly boost skepticism among Americans already hesitant to get the shots.

Fauci said he spoke on Monday with health officials in the United Kingdom, who have opted to delay second doses to maximize giving more people shots more quickly. He said that although he understands the strategy, it wouldn’t make sense in America. “We both agreed that both of our approaches were quite reasonable,” Fauci said.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1366863233538228233

[MG1]

Took a page right out of Montgomery Scott's guide to A Star Fleet Engineer's guidebook to Success.

Geordi LaForge: "Captain, I think we can have the inertial dampeners working by 08:00 today and the plasma injectors to the starboard nacelle by 14:00 tomorrow.........."

Montgomery Scottie: "What the fuck, Geordi??? You never tell them you'll get it done by a certain time. You exaggerate and tell them it's going to take at least twice as long....... that way, you'll look like a genius and a miracle worker when you get it done in one fifth the time........."


LaForge: out of word.............

[twitchyzero]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1366863233538228233

great news

because not sure i can stomach local summer fuel prices :alone:

would be nice if it could slow trickle opening by canada day

but trudeau will probably still force 14 quarantine even with proof of 2-shot vaccine and same or higher active cases in canada :lol

[MG1]

Bwahahaha.......... I applied for Nexus pass like August of 2019.

My interview has been pushed back three times. Now August of 2021. They extended the time limit to 720 days from application date. My god!

It is what it is.............. can't go down there anytime soon, so no big deal.

And...... they are phasing out the Enhanced Drivers License (Ready Lane).

[BlackV62K2]

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/caught-on-camera-anti-maskers-berate-staff-at-vancouver-pizzeria-rough-up-teenager-1.5331422

Wtf :fulloffuck:

[Special K]

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/caught-on-camera-anti-maskers-berate-staff-at-vancouver-pizzeria-rough-up-teenager-1.5331422

Wtf :fulloffuck:

Man: I’m worth $50 million

*received $230 fine the nexr day*

What happen to the assault??

[StylinRed]

They should get charged for assaulting a minor...

[whitev70r]

Teen should go for the pay day and sue the two old retired rich Kits men for assault. That unmasked guy sounded like he was drunk. Let's wait for the public shaming today ... and then the 'sincere' apology written by guy's lawyer.

[quasi]

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/caught-on-camera-anti-maskers-berate-staff-at-vancouver-pizzeria-rough-up-teenager-1.5331422

Wtf :fulloffuck:

Why would you put your hands on a kid for nothing, yeah he's a teenager but he's still a kid?

[westopher]

Perfect example of why these fines don’t work for shit. Imagine how those pussies would fare after a few nights in jail.

[whitev70r]

There is a part of the story missing. How or why did the teen go outside? Were these two guys like waiting for him to come out?

[punkwax]

I think the kid was next in line to get inside after those two idiots.

[westopher]

“When the men finally left the restaurant, video shows one of them reach for the mask of a teenager waiting to order food.”
Places have limits of how many people inside. Kid probably just wanted his fucking $7.99 medium two topping that the “multi millionaires” were also trying to order.
If buddy has 50 million you think he could probably have afforded the Uber eats delivery fee and avoided this mess.

[GLOW]

$235 covid fine...but no talk of charges for assault on minor?
I don't care if it was just grabbing and shoving...that has to be scary as hell for the kid...being grabbed/held from behind by 1 guy while the other is in his face...

little more than disappointed here...but i'm not a crim major here...

[JDMDreams]

^ bECUz no WidEnEd ExHauSt TipS:accepted:

[whitev70r]

Oh I see ... an innocent teen next in line to order pizza gets manhandled by 2 rich Kits old men. Oh boy ... that's the Anti-masker Mark Donnelly crowd for ya.

[BlackV62K2]

If it wasn't two rich old white men that did this, there would be a manhunt for them.

[CivicBlues]

according to Daily Hive the men were have charges pending from the VPD and no fine was levied.

[GLOW]

https://i.redd.it/g338iwi116w31.jpg
good, i hope they get assault on a minor or worse on both their records.

[hud 91gt]

The way the guy is talking I think he just finished off a couple Pitchers at Corduroy and wanted a slice. Slurring like a drunken sailor. That’s embarrassing.

[whitev70r]

Remember that Neanderthal group in New West partying it up and wishing the Dr. a quick end ... the idiot pianist got fired!

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/03/03/vancouver-pianist-no-longer-employed-by-vso-after-hosting-illegal-gathering/

[Hondaracer]

Credit where credit is due, I’ll give it to Bonnie for being ahead of the pack when it came to pushing the timeline for vaccines based on the data they were getting essentially on the fly from other countries etc.

Albeit against manufacturers recommendations, if it gives protection and I don’t have to hear about it anymore sounds good to me

[whitev70r]

^ I'm not totally convinced but .....

[Hondaracer]

Came across this on IG lol..

https://i.imgur.com/KjWKtuk.jpg

[westopher]

Imagine being so jacked to just not wear a piece of cloth on your face.
NO MIND CONTROL NO MORE FACISM WE DIE OF COVID FREE MEN

[Hondaracer]

Well what’s even crazier is that state politicians lift mandates..

[underscore]

https://i.imgur.com/ak1no2r.jpg

[whitev70r]

The two clowns in Kits have been charged!

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/charges-approved-against-2-men-after-mask-confrontation-at-vancouver-pizzeria-1.5334211

[StylinRed]

Ah drunk driving too, not surprised

Good, glad they charged em

[SkinnyPupp]

Good. Fucking losers

[GLOW]

https://i.redd.it/g338iwi116w31.jpg
good, i hope they get assault on a minor or worse on both their records.

my post stands...

[JDMDreams]

But they didn't get a Vi, shows vpd discrimination:lawl:

[Mikoyan]

One of them apparently is/was working for Canaccord. He's wiped his social media, Linked in, personal web page etc.

[pastarocket]

Has anyone downloaded the BC Services Card app yet on your phones? A colleague told me about this government app today.

The app can be used to book appointments for Covid vaccine shots.

-pretty labour intensive setup:

-gotta scan the barcode on your BC Medical Services card.

Enter date of birth and your e-mail address.

Then, you need to take a selfie.

Next, you need to take a video that is 30 seconds or less in length.

You gotta say the "your name as listed on your BC Services Card".

Smile in the video. Then zoom in on your face then zoom out.

Then send photo and video to BC Medical Services so that an agent can verify your identity.


The alternative would be to use the slow poke method of calling BC Medical Services to book an appointment for your Covid vaccine shot. We all know how long that can take to wait on the phone to get an agent to help you. :lawl:

[whitev70r]

^ BC Services App? I'm still waiting for my BC $500 relief fund! Damn, this province is so inefficient.

[mikemhg]

Has anyone downloaded the BC Services Card app yet on your phones? A colleague told me about this government app today.

The app can be used to book appointments for Covid vaccine shots.

-pretty labour intensive setup:

-gotta scan the barcode on your BC Medical Services card.

Enter date of birth and your e-mail address.

Then, you need to take a selfie.

Next, you need to take a video that is 30 seconds or less in length.

You gotta say the "your name as listed on your BC Services Card".

Smile in the video. Then zoom in on your face then zoom out.

Then send photo and video to BC Medical Services so that an agent can verify your identity.


The alternative would be to use the slow poke method of calling BC Medical Services to book an appointment for your Covid vaccine shot. We all know how long that can take to wait on the phone to get an agent to help you. :lawl:

Seriously? Way to encourage people not to get vaccinated. Try getting older folks to navigate that process, GTFO.

[westopher]

It’s not the only way.

[Obsideon]

Here at work we setup a digital method for contact tracing.
1) Scan QR code with phone
2) Link pops up, enter name and phone number
3) 4-digit confirmation code gets texted to your phone for verification (so people don't enter fake numbers for whatever reason)
4) Enter the code, done.

I implemented the system because it's more sanitary than paper and pen recording.

Point is, even a check-in like this there were quite a few people "annoyed" by the process. Others were borderline about to turn around leave without eating because it was "too much of a hassle" :seriously:

[Teriyaki]

Here at work we setup a digital method for contact tracing.
1) Scan QR code with phone
2) Link pops up, enter name and phone number
3) 4-digit confirmation code gets texted to your phone for verification (so people don't enter fake numbers for whatever reason)
4) Enter the code, done.

I implemented the system because it's more sanitary than paper and pen recording.

Point is, even a check-in like this there were quite a few people "annoyed" by the process. Others were borderline about to turn around leave without eating because it was "too much of a hassle" :seriously:

You probably don't want that sort of customer anyways. Ugh.

[twitchyzero]

damn 2-step verification for contact tracing! that must not be cheap

[Obsideon]

Covid fatigue. Is anyone even checking the daily briefings anymore? I'll admit I haven't read the report in a couple weeks now. Someone told me we are back over 600.

[Obsideon]

You probably don't want that sort of customer anyways. Ugh.

Funny story there was a customer that was super against it, saying "I got frauded before so I'm not giving you my information!" ... (haircut exactly like a karen heh) ... anyway, lady I'm not asking you for bank account and SIN ... I just need a name and phone number ... :okay: :pokerface:

[Liquid_o2]

634 today :okay:

[twitchyzero]

iuno i'm with karen there, that's how people get non-stop spam calls and emails

when you write it down on paper it's less likely to get sold (not saying that's your motivation at all)

vaccine news:

J&J approved
pfizer shipment now 3 mos early but national herd protection is still expected for sept
Canada will take its share from covax

[Hakkaboy]

Speaking of Karen's....

https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/03/unmasked-toronto-nurse-refuses-testing-quarantine-pearson-airport/

Is there a way to embed tweets? The video of her on there

https://twitter.com/klaidlaw/status/1367598769848668166

A Registered Nurse from Toronto arrived at Pearson International Airport this week and refused to wear a mask, undergo a COVID-19 test or cooperate with the mandatory three-day hotel quarantine period despite legislation requiring all international travellers to do so to protect public health

:fulloffuck:

[Ch28]

What's even worse is she's supposed to be working LTC now

https://twitter.com/klaidlaw/status/1367996754197626882

[whitev70r]

Investment advisor at Canaccord Genuity charged in Vancouver pizzeria confrontation

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/investment-advisor-at-canaccord-genuity-charged-in-vancouver-pizzeria-confrontation-1.5336066

VANCOUVER -- One of the men charged following a heated confrontation over masks at a Vancouver pizza restaurant is an investment advisor at Canaccord Genuity. The company issued a statement to CTV News on Friday saying the employee has been suspended without pay pending the outcome of an internal investigation.

"We are incredibly disappointed to learn of a shameful incident of inexcusable behaviour involving one of our employees," a spokesperson for Canaccord Genuity said in an email. "Canaccord Genuity rejects the disgraceful behaviours, opinions and actions of the individuals involved. They are in no way representative of our firm’s values."

Vancouver police confirmed this week that assault charges have been approved against James Henry Davidson and Brenton Thomas Woyat. Profiles on Facebook and LinkedIn identified Woyat as an investment advisor at Canaccord Genuity as recently as Thursday, though both pages appear to have been deactivated.

[GLOW]

i can't recall the specifics of a nurse's oath, but i'm assuming it's similar to doctors and engineers', to do no harm, serve the public interest, etc... seems like she broke it breaking health orders...

wonder if anything will come of that on the licensing end...

[Gumby]

What's even worse is she's supposed to be working LTC now

https://twitter.com/klaidlaw/status/1367996754197626882
Can’t believe she has the audacity to call herself a hero :lol

[sonick]

What's even worse is she's supposed to be working LTC now

https://twitter.com/klaidlaw/status/1367996754197626882

Would hit :ifyouknow:

[Mikoyan]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/doctor-who-said-canada-doesnt-need-covid-vaccine-calls-online-critics-hyenas-in-6-8m-libel-suit

Tldr: anti lockdown/covid vaccine Doctor suing her critics.


Doctor who said Canada doesn't need COVID vaccine calls online critics 'hyenas' in $6.8M libel suit
The legal action targets tweets that began after Gill wrote that society has existing COVID defences in the form of 'the Truth … T-cell immunity … Hydroxychloroquine'

Author of the article:Tom Blackwell
Publishing date:Mar 04, 2021

Doctors and others have accused Dr. Kulvinder Gill of spreading conspiracy theories, being an “extremist crank” and part of a “war on science” because of her views on COVID-19 treatment.
Doctors and others have accused Dr. Kulvinder Gill of spreading conspiracy theories, being an “extremist crank” and part of a “war on science” because of her views on COVID-19 treatment. PHOTO BY ERNEST DOROSZUK/POSTMEDIA/FILE
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When an Ontario doctor argued publicly that Canadians need neither a vaccine nor lockdowns to combat COVID-19 but should rely instead on a controversial malaria drug, some of the response was sharp.

Fellow physicians, academics and journalists called out Dr. Kulvinder Kaur Gill on social media last summer for peddling what they alleged was anti-scientific misinformation and conspiracy theory.


At least one of her tweets was removed by Twitter, and complaints were filed to Ontario’s medical regulator. Those recently resulted in cautions for “irresponsible” and “indefensible” behaviour that could endanger public health.

But then the dialogue took a different turn.

Gill filed a $6.8-million libel suit in December against 23 of the detractors – including a former president of the Ontario Medical Association (OMA) – claiming they had maliciously sullied her reputation.

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The defendants include two former allies of Gill’s in a previous push to reform the powerful OMA, while the suit alleges racist and misogynist motives.

A year since the first lockdown was imposed, the case seems to underscore the bitter divisions spawned by the virus and efforts to curb it, even among health-care professionals.

“The individual defendants, like a pack of hyenas, attempted and in fact coordinated a circling of the plaintiff to literally destroy her career and reputation,” charges Gill’s statement of claim.

Handling the lawsuit is Toronto lawyer Rocco Galati, known himself for outspoken views about the pandemic. Galati has called public-health measures against the virus a “vicious fraud,” referred to protective face coverings as “slave-trade masks” and blamed it all on the “predatory globalist agenda of Bill Gates and his criminalist cohorts.”

Microsoft founder Gates has given away much of his vast fortune to help combat disease and poverty in the developing world.

Meanwhile, the pediatrician recently teamed up with another scientific outlier on one of her causes – promotion of the drug hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment. Among the authors on a paper that concluded the malaria medicine was a useful therapy were Gill and Paul Alexander. He’s the part-time McMaster University professor who controversially tried to influence the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and other American government agencies as a Trump-administration appointee.

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Dr. Kulvinder Gill and Dr. Mark D’Souza each resigned their posts as chairs of districts representing Toronto-area physicians. “(There is) a culture of fear and intimidation and not one of freedom of speech,” says Dr. D’Souza.
Melodrama at Ontario doctors’ group ‘like a bad episode of House of Cards’

None of the allegations in the lawsuit has been proven in court and no statement of defence has yet been filed.

Two defendants dismissed the claims when reached this week.

“We believe the case is without merit with respect to Dr. Jacobs and we’re seeking to have it dismissed at the earliest opportunity,” said lawyer Andrew Winton, representing prominent radiologist David Jacobs.

“She’s not going to get any money from anybody,” predicted Dr. Terry Polevoy, a retired Waterloo, Ont., physician who crusades against what he considers anti-scientific health claims and products. “We told the truth. We presented facts.”

Gill referred inquiries to Galati, who declined to comment, saying that the suit spoke for itself.

The legal action targets mostly a series of tweets that began last August after Gill wrote that a vaccine is not needed against COVID-19, and that society has existing defences in the form of “the Truth … T-cell immunity … Hydroxychloroquine.”

She also tweeted that “there is absolutely no medical or scientific reason for this prolonged, harmful, and illogical lockdown.”

One response suggested it was “quite shocking” for such comments to come from a Canadian physician leader, and was followed by reference to an “army of hydroxychloroquine bots and unhinged conspiracy theorists” who chastized Gill’s critic.

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She’s not going to get any money from anybody

Doctors and others then accused the physician of spreading conspiracy theories, being an “extremist crank” and part of a “war on science.” Some suggested she be investigated by the College of Physicians and Surgeons, or actually filed complaints with the regulator.

The suit alleges the criticism of Gill, a woman of Sikh background, falsely and maliciously painted her as incompetent, mentally unstable and unscientific, threatening her future income and career opportunities. It said her views were backed by a “good portion” of the world’s scientific community,” while the criticisms were “laced with sexist, misogynist and racially overt overtures.”

Last month, Ontario’s College of Physicians and Surgeons issued official cautions to Gill for posts stating there was no need for a vaccine or justification for lockdowns. The tweets showed a lack of professionalism and caution that posed a potential risk to public health, its decision said.

“A safe, tested vaccine is the ideal solution to protecting the population and bringing about the end of the pandemic with the lowest possible number of deaths,” said the regulator.

The college said it was fair to question the effectiveness of lockdowns or whether their benefits outweighed the harms. But Gill stated “unequivocally and without providing any evidence” that there is no medical or scientific reason for such measures. The statement wasinaccurate, misinformed and misleading, said the regulator, citing as an example lockdowns in places like China that have virtually stopped spread of the virus.

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In another decision, it blasted her for an “indefensible” retweet suggesting that contact tracing, testing and isolation were ineffective and counter-productive.

Gill’s comments, “are irresponsible and careless in the current context and climate,” the College said.

But the agency dismissed a separate complaint about the doctor’s promotion of hydroxychloroquine in August, saying that at the time there was some good evidence of its effectiveness.

A bottle and pills of Hydroxychloroquine.
A bottle and pills of Hydroxychloroquine. PHOTO BY GEORGE FREY/AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES
The jury is not completely in today on hydroxychloroquine, which became a political football after former U.S. president Donald Trump touted it as a coronavirus therapy. Some trials are still ongoing. But the most recently published or internet-posted “meta-analyses” – studies of past research – conclude the drug had little or no impact on the coronavirus. One analysis did cite lesser-quality observational studies that suggested low doses could lessen mortality.

The study by Gill, Alexander and other authors, however, concluded that early use of hydroxychloroquine combined with other drugs cut mortality in nursing-home residents.

T-cell immunity is a theme embraced by COVID-19 skeptics such as U.S. Senator Rand Paul and controversial Trump advisor Dr. Scott Atlas, who believe herd immunity to the virus may be close at hand. T cells are a part of the immune system not detected in antibody tests, which suggest only a small portion of the population has natural defences against the virus.

Studies have suggested that 20-50 per cent of people have T cells that recognize the COVID-19 virus, likely because of previous infection with common-cold coronaviruses. But even the scientist who spearheaded that research has said it’s unknown whether those cells protect against the pandemic bug, and almost certain they wouldn’t produce herd immunity.

[320icar]

TlL;DR woman thinks she deserves millions because she went on a public forum Being and idiot and got bullied lol

[BIC_BAWS]

Investment advisor at Canaccord Genuity charged in Vancouver pizzeria confrontation

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/investment-advisor-at-canaccord-genuity-charged-in-vancouver-pizzeria-confrontation-1.5336066

Figures. Canaccord isn't exactly known for its great people and great moral ethics.



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[Teriyaki]

Felt like I needed to get out of the house, cabin-fever setting in. Been wanting to grab something from the office so went for a quick drive downtown. Quick drive turned into a casual solo cruise around Stanley Park and then decided to head across the bridge and check out how Park Royal is coming along.

2 thoughts. A lot has changed here. More importantly. It looks like there's NO pandemic here once you cross the bridge? Was just driving through the "Village" and it is absolutely packed to the gills with people. Groups and groups of "same age people" all walking around with no masks so they're very unlikely to be household.
Is this normal around here? Siighh.

[320icar]

^^ it’s becoming more normal everywhere. People are sick and tired of covid

[StylinRed]

Speaking of Karen's....

https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/03/unmasked-toronto-nurse-refuses-testing-quarantine-pearson-airport/

Is there a way to embed tweets? The video of her on there

https://twitter.com/klaidlaw/status/1367598769848668166



:fulloffuck:

Yeah I've heard a lot of canadians returning just flouting the rules and the govt not being able to do a thing, some ppl got a ticket, some didnt

Some want to follow the rules but were apparently expected to make hotel reservations on their own before their return, and weren't able to do so the day of their return etc etc

[spoon.ek9]

^^ it’s becoming more normal everywhere. People are sick and tired of covid

we all are but like i said before, the virus don't give a shit if we're tired. it has no such fatigue unfortunately.

[Ch28]

i can't recall the specifics of a nurse's oath, but i'm assuming it's similar to doctors and engineers', to do no harm, serve the public interest, etc... seems like she broke it breaking health orders...

wonder if anything will come of that on the licensing end...

I believe there was another nurse from Ontario that went to a Trump rally or that Capitol Hill riot in the US that got her license stripped and fired. The precedence is there, so it really depends on how the College of Nurses of Ontario approach this case.

[GLOW]

wonder if the nurses union can protect her like police union

[whitev70r]

:D:D:lol

Two Vancouver men thrown in jail for hosting party during pandemic
https://theprovince.com/news/two-vancouver-men-thrown-in-jail-for-hosting-party-during-pandemic/wcm/124e468d-e409-4b7a-a83c-62487745d3f3

Vancouver police arrested two men early Saturday morning for allegedly hosting a party in a downtown condo, a violation of B.C.’s provincial COVID-19 restrictions.

Prior to Saturday’s arrests, VPD Sgt. Steve Addison said police had received 10 previous complaints concerning parties in the high-rise tower near Burrard and Alberni streets.

Officers busted into the suite around 2 a.m.

“After repeated complaints from the public and unsuccessful efforts to convince these hosts to stop having parties, our officers obtained a search warrant and forced entry into the condo Saturday to arrest two men,” said Addison. “The alleged hosts were taken to jail, and six guests were issued $230 tickets for being at the gathering.”

[twitchyzero]

seems like a fast turnaround for a warrant?

[twitchyzero]

https://scontent.fyvr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/97058487_1353063974884165_2201511987236569088_o.pn g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=HlnByuin2mQAX-3GncH&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr4-1.fna&oh=af7e49659b63ba2dfe13d4722c841c76&oe=606AB5FD

[Hondaracer]

George Takei can chill out on his social justice warrior BS.

He makes this virtue signaling comparisons about his life to current situations, like sorry George, no one cares.

People bitch about scenarios in modern day life because they have the luxury to. This isn’t like don’t be upset a virus is preventing you from seeing loved ones because in medieval times they didn’t have soap.

[Mikoyan]

seems like a fast turnaround for a warrant?

Justices are available 24/7 for search warrants, emergency protective orders, Child custody issues etc.

[twitchyzero]

This isn’t like don’t be upset a virus is preventing you from seeing loved ones because in medieval times they didn’t have soap.

i dont think his statement touched on the chronic mental distress we all have to endure

classifying 'face diapers' as oppression really is comical though, esp if you put it in perspective to an event that's still within living memory for quite a few

[Hondaracer]

I get it, but it’s kinda like, enough of these celebs making memes to tell people how they should be. If covid taught everyone anything it’s celebs in general are so irrelevant and out of touch they might as well stfu rather than chiming in when it comes to your average person

[westopher]

Just being a celeb, and being in a group of out of touch, often annoying clowns, doesn’t make him wrong.
It’s not like he’s like JUST STAY HOME LOOK HOW FUN IT IS as he floats in the pool of his Hollywood hills mansion.
It’s pretty fucking old listening to these pussies act like masks are some form of oppression.

[Hondaracer]

Well I’m sure they will definitely start listening when a C list actor like George posts a meme quote

[westopher]

Yeah they’ll just hoop a big gulp and lick an ATM to stick it to the left.

[twitchyzero]

i dont hang out in hollywood but are c-list celebs not your average person that still need to go grocery shopping? lol

[GLOW]

isn't his schtick these days being a cheeky actor/comedian, usually playing himself?
comment seems pretty george takei to me, i don't mind

[SkinnyPupp]

If you're suddenly offended by George Takei calling out conservative nuts, you must have not heard from him in the last 20 years or so LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1369135860055171075

[GLOW]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-24-2016/LzEa3S.gif

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong has been around 10 cases a day for a bit, but there appears to be a breakout taking place in fitness centers. One fitness center alone has 30 preliminary cases, 19 confirmed today, and they say it could reach 50+ tomorrow. Several others as well, as members and trainers are spreading it to people who go to other gyms.

Just a reminder that going back to the gym isn't something to consider until you've been vaccinated. Not being able to train is doing a number on my mental health; it's something I've relied on to keep me even. I won't lie, it's been rough, but better than risking me and my family to covid.

[JDMDreams]

^^ what about all the ppl dying after getting the vaccine, or getting sick with negative effects in the hospital, it doesn't seem like there's much of that reported in NA. Not sure if the gov is covering it up here though.

[sonick]

Went to a fancier, higher-end restaurant last night (i.e. not one that you would think would be typically busy on a weekday) to buy a gift card to find all the blinds in the windows were closed.

Knocked on the door to get in, only to discover a large long-table private party being hosted with at least 10 ppl if not more.

Naturally I snitched on them and reported it to local bylaw office. Not sure if anything will come of it though. Frustrating to see people gathering and having a great time when we've personally been diligent in avoiding it.

Today is the 1 year anniversary of the last time I had a meal with my buddies, wings night at Canadian Brewhouse... :okay:

[68style]

^^ what about all the ppl dying after getting the vaccine, or getting sick with negative effects in the hospital, it doesn't seem like there's much of that reported in NA. Not sure if the gov is covering it up here though.

Why is the first assumption with some people that governments are conspiring to cover people dying up......... instead of using common sense and thinking that maybe the stories of deaths are fabricated

[JDMDreams]

Because they actually set up rules and policies to try to curb this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hongkongfp.com/2021/03/08/covid-19-two-in-critical-condition-and-another-death-within-days-of-sinovac-jab-health-dept-to-investigate-if-vaccine-link/

Unlike here how they only had 300 booked appointments for vaccine shots in a day. And why fraser health has online bookings but everywhere else is by phone:rukidding: most people have jobs and can't sit around for 5 hours on hold just to get hung up on.

O numbers are going up with other more dangerous variants? Don't worry guys we will reopen in a few weeks.:accepted:

[320icar]

Went to a fancier, higher-end restaurant last night (i.e. not one that you would think would be typically busy on a weekday) to buy a gift card to find all the blinds in the windows were closed.

Knocked on the door to get in, only to discover a large long-table private party being hosted with at least 10 ppl if not more.

Naturally I snitched on them and reported it to local bylaw office. Not sure if anything will come of it though. Frustrating to see people gathering and having a great time when we've personally been diligent in avoiding it.

Today is the 1 year anniversary of the last time I had a meal with my buddies, wings night at Canadian Brewhouse... :okay:

Inb4 NSMB tries to call you out for snitching and calling you pretentious and cringe, only to be proven wrong and never apologize or own up to being a cunt like a man lol

[spoon.ek9]

Because they actually set up rules and policies to try to curb this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hongkongfp.com/2021/03/08/covid-19-two-in-critical-condition-and-another-death-within-days-of-sinovac-jab-health-dept-to-investigate-if-vaccine-link/

Unlike here how they only had 300 booked appointments for vaccine shots in a day. And why fraser health has online bookings but everywhere else is by phone:rukidding: most people have jobs and can't sit around for 5 hours on hold just to get hung up on.

O numbers are going up with other more dangerous variants? Don't worry guys we will reopen in a few weeks.:accepted:

ok... and what does China's vaccine have to do with us here using Pfizer/Moderna? Also, why would it surprise you (or anyone) that information in China would be covered up?

[CivicBlues]

Chinese Vaccine causes two people with pre-existing conditions to almost die

OMG THE BC GOVERNMENT IS COVERING UP ALL THE VACCINE DEATHS!!!!!1111

[Hondaracer]

Lol

[68style]

Funny how so many vaccines have been mandatory for decades and all of us born in Canada without a doubt have them... and life expectancy continues to increase year over year in all modern countries (COVID not withstanding)...

But yes the medical system is out to kill us all. Makes perfect sense.

[GLOW]

Chinese Vaccine causes two people with pre-existing conditions to almost die

OMG THE BC GOVERNMENT IS COVERING UP ALL THE VACCINE DEATHS!!!!!1111

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1370129719283249158


B.C. easing COVID-19 restrictions to allow outdoor social gatherings up to 10 people (https://globalnews.ca/news/7691308/bc-easing-restrictions-outdoor-social-gatherings/)

[pastarocket]

-clarification about Dr. Bonnie's new provincial order:


Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry has introduced a new provincial health order allowing for outdoor social gatherings of 10 or fewer people.

The new order comes into effect immediately.

Henry said it means British Columbians can meet friends outside and have a coffee or they can meet grandparents outside.

The guidelines will require people to socially distance outdoors but will be able to gather at parks and on private property including backyards.

However, it should be the same 10 people, Henry said, not different groups of 10 people.

There are no changes to the current indoor gatherings. Children will not be able to have sleepovers, for example.

[Qmx323]

"Henry said it means British Columbians can meet friends outside and have a coffee or they can meet grandparents outside."

What? We weren't allowed to meet friends outside before this new order?

[SkinnyPupp]

Why is the first assumption with some people that governments are conspiring to cover people dying up......... instead of using common sense and thinking that maybe the stories of deaths are fabricated
LUL such a weird conclusion to jump to... But people are definitely getting sick from the Sinovac vaccine. 3 deaths, 3 in critical condition. It's definitely being reported (https://hongkongfp.com/2021/03/10/covid-19-hongkongers-demand-for-sinovac-vaccination-wanes-as-third-man-in-critical-condition-within-days-of-jab/) too.

Think about how many millions of people who are getting the Pfizer/Biontech, and Moderna vaccines in America and around the world. No deaths. Hong Kong jabs a few thousand with this one, and people are getting REALLY sick and dying. Also this vaccine has an efficacy rate of around 50% rather than 95% of the others.

Because of this, number of people going in for vaccines are way down. They're doing like 10-15K a day. If you look at the booking page, everywhere has room available for booking. They are starting to open it up for more people. In China they don't give the vaccine to anyone over 60, but they are here, and I think all the deaths are sick people over that age.

They also started giving the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine. But again, people here don't trust the government, so not as many people as needed are getting their vaccines.

I mentioned the compulsory sign-in when going to restaurants or govt facilities... You can use an app which creates an anonymous hash, and you just scan a QR code to enter. Or alternatively you can leave your name and phone number on a piece of paper. I see WAY more people using that method than their phones, which I find weird because the phone is way more anonymous than your name and number. Unless these people are giving fake numbers, which I suspect but hope isn't happening. No breakouts yet since they started doing this, so we don't know.

[StylinRed]

The aatra zeneca vaccine is causing blood clots and at least one person has died, norway/netherlands/Iceland has banned it or put a freeze on it for now

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56357760

But regulators say they see no sign of an increase in clots

[SkinnyPupp]

The aatra zeneca vaccine is causing blood clots and at least one person has died, norway/netherlands/Iceland has banned it or put a freeze on it for now

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56357760

But regulators say they see no sign of an increase in clots
1 person out of 50 million seems like a coincidence more than anything to me, but I guess they'll have to look into it.

[Hondaracer]

Lol “now you can go outside”

You gotta be a real covid Cuck to not have been seeing people fucking outside in a oark etc. Since sept lol..

Given the variants and whatnot of just because Bonnie says now you can go outside with 10 people now you’re gonna go have a bbq party with elderly parents? Lol..that makes less sense than seeing people outside pretty much anytime before today if you were actually following the rules.

[CivicBlues]

The aatra zeneca vaccine is causing blood clots and at least one person has died, norway/netherlands/Iceland has banned it or put a freeze on it for now

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56357760

But regulators say they see no sign of an increase in clots

If you read the article they're all from 2 specific batches. If the link is made to that batch then someone done fucked up bad...:noyoudidnt:

[twitchyzero]

if we're allowed distanced picnics, i'll take it

[Teriyaki]

Lol “now you can go outside”

You gotta be a real covid Cuck to not have been seeing people fucking outside in a oark etc. Since sept lol..

Given the variants and whatnot of just because Bonnie says now you can go outside with 10 people now you’re gonna go have a bbq party with elderly parents? Lol..that makes less sense than seeing people outside pretty much anytime before today if you were actually following the rules.

I've been outside, alone. I haven't been outside with people. I guess I'm a cuck. :okay:

[320icar]

if we're allowed distanced picnics, i'll take it

Are we allowed to drink in parks/beaches yet? Having a picnic and a craft beer with friends sounds like a dream come true

[Qmx323]

Are we allowed to drink in parks/beaches yet? Having a picnic and a craft beer with friends sounds like a dream come true

If not, awful lots of happy laughing folks drinkin' out of Contigo water bottles :drunk:

[Ch28]

Lol “now you can go outside”

You gotta be a real covid Cuck to not have been seeing people fucking outside in a oark etc. Since sept lol..

Given the variants and whatnot of just because Bonnie says now you can go outside with 10 people now you’re gonna go have a bbq party with elderly parents? Lol..that makes less sense than seeing people outside pretty much anytime before today if you were actually following the rules.

You've pretty much summed up the people on r/vancouver on Reddit. There are so many "I've been isolating at home by myself because I live alone" people basically saying the same thing.

It's absolutely mindblowing how those people can't do any sort of critical thinking for themselves.

[whitev70r]

If not, awful lots of happy laughing folks drinkin' out of Contigo water bottles :drunk:

Yes, you're allowed ... but I remember that it has to be particular ones:

Vancouver Park Board votes to allow drinking in 22 public parks, but legislation still needed

https://globalnews.ca/news/7224370/vancouver-park-board-votes-to-allow-drinking-in-22-public-parks-possible-booze-sales/#:~:text=The%20Vancouver%20Park%20Board%20finally, coolers%20at%20nearby%20park%20concessions.

[SkinnyPupp]

You've pretty much summed up the people on r/vancouver on Reddit. There are so many "I've been isolating at home by myself because I live alone" people basically saying the same thing.

It's absolutely mindblowing how those people can't do any sort of critical thinking for themselves.
That's basically all of reddit. They've turned social distancing into a cult-like form of thinking. Everywhere you go, if there's a celebrity or known person who is part of that subreddit, if they find out they aren't completely shut in for an entire year, or take off their mask to do something, they get absolutely destroyed and "canceled".

I've seen them turn on wrestlers, athletes, MMA fighters.. basically anywhere I go on reddit, I see them getting outraged about someone not doing everything "perfectly" and basically "canceling" them in their own part of that subculture. It's turning into some sort of deranged cult, to be "perfect" in adherence to social distancing. If you don't, you're literally trying to kill their grandparents.

[gilly]

Are we allowed to drink in parks/beaches yet? Having a picnic and a craft beer with friends sounds like a dream come true

It is legal to drink in parks in Port Coquitlam. Good thing I moved there recently. :D

[westopher]

Same with North van, although I have to say, since it’s become legal I’ve become a little too casual walking down the street with a tall can lol.

[mikemhg]

You've pretty much summed up the people on r/vancouver on Reddit. There are so many "I've been isolating at home by myself because I live alone" people basically saying the same thing.

It's absolutely mindblowing how those people can't do any sort of critical thinking for themselves.

It's an excuse for shitty, lonely, people to act like shitty people. You remove COVID, those same people will find another reason to be shitty to their fellow citizens.

"You can't park there"
"You can't BBQ there"
"Your music is too loud"

They are all the same types.

Unhappy people dealing with mental health issues that are looking to bring others down to their otherwise sorrow filled level.

[Hondaracer]

That's basically all of reddit. They've turned social distancing into a cult-like form of thinking. Everywhere you go, if there's a celebrity or known person who is part of that subreddit, if they find out they aren't completely shut in for an entire year, or take off their mask to do something, they get absolutely destroyed and "canceled".

I've seen them turn on wrestlers, athletes, MMA fighters.. basically anywhere I go on reddit, I see them getting outraged about someone not doing everything "perfectly" and basically "canceling" them in their own part of that subculture. It's turning into some sort of deranged cult, to be "perfect" in adherence to social distancing. If you don't, you're literally trying to kill their grandparents.

Weird

[Hondaracer]

Like, I get it. Bonnie has to put some rules in place because people are too dumb to read between the lines and if you had said it’s ok to be with 10 people outside before, that turns into 10 people on a porch, those 10 people going inside the house because you’re loose after a few drinks, those 10 people hanging out inside without masks etc.

But it’s funny as mentioned above this attitude of do-gooder syndrome otherwise

[68style]

I happened to be in Aldergrove last night, drove by the Fox & Hound... uhm... I think a number of people/establishments heard "We are easing restrictions..." and just rushed out the door.

Parking lot was full spilling out onto the street, dozens of people standing outside partying it up...

Crazy... give an inch take a mile... RIP Fraser Health Authority

[pastarocket]

What are your thoughts on the safety of the AstraZeneca vaccine for people?

-from the article:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/03/12/pfizer-million-doses-a-week-canada/

Health Canada made a statement saying that the batch of AstraZeneca vaccines being shipped to Canada is safe.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/03/11/demark-italy-norway-temporarily-suspend-astra-zeneca-vaccine-blood-clots-side-effects-ontario-pharmacies-health-canada/

Denmark has temporarily suspended the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine after reports of blood clots in some people, but its health authority said Thursday it has no evidence the vaccine was responsible.

Other experts pointed out that of the millions of AstraZeneca vaccine shots administered elsewhere, including in Britain, there have been no reported cases of the vaccine causing blood clots or related problems.

On Thursday, AstraZeneca Canada confirmed to 680 NEWS the batch of doses the country has secured are different than the ones being investigated for the aforementioned side effects.

“We’re aware of the statement made today by Sundhedsstyrelsen (the Danish Health Authority) that they are currently investigating potential adverse events related to vaccination against COVID-19,” an AstraZeneca Canada spokesperson said in an email.


Other experts pointed out that of the millions of AstraZeneca vaccine shots administered elsewhere, including in Britain, there have been no reported cases of the vaccine causing blood clots or related problems.

On Thursday, AstraZeneca Canada confirmed to 680 NEWS the batch of doses the country has secured are different than the ones being investigated for the aforementioned side effects.


“Patient Safety is the highest priority for AstraZeneca. Regulators have clear and stringent efficacy and safety standards for the approval of any new medicine, and that includes AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine.”

Health Canada has recommended that the shot be administered to people aged 60 to 64.


“The safety of the vaccine has been extensively studied in Phase 3 clinical trials and Peer-reviewed data confirms the vaccine has been generally well-tolerated,” AstraZeneca Canada said.

“We immediately shared this global information with Health Canada and will continue to share evolving data on our vaccine from both Canada and around the world as part of our ongoing pharmaco-vigilance activities.”

Denmark’s Health Authority said its decision was “based on a precautionary principle” and that one person who developed a blood clot after vaccination had died.

“At present, it cannot be concluded whether there is a link between the vaccine and the blood clots,” authorities said. Danish officials did not say whether the patient had any underlying conditions and did not provide any other details.


I'm assuming that most people on RS, except maybe MG1 :considered:, are not in the age range of 60-64.

That being said, if you know anyone in this age range, do you think it is safe for them to take the AstraZeneca vaccine?

[SkinnyPupp]

Number of blood clots per person injected is about the same as the general public. One guy died of DVT, but no causal relationship. Looks like it's fine

[GGnoRE]

Not sure what all the numbers are exactly but if the probability of me catching covid AND having critical adverse effects as a young person is lower than the probability of getting blood clots from AstraZeneca vaccine, I'm passing. AstraZeneca having one of the lowest efficacy rate doesn't help either.

[Ch28]

Not sure what all the numbers are exactly but if the probability of me catching covid AND having critical adverse effects as a young person is lower than the probability of getting blood clots from AstraZeneca vaccine, I'm passing. AstraZeneca having one of the lowest efficacy rate doesn't help either.

Wife told me that she wasn't given a choice of the vaccine and was basically told right before injection :badpokerface:

[JDMDreams]

O look I guess the none China vaccines aren't as good as they sound. With Euro countries banning it. But of course Canada says it's fine cuz we're desperate for any vaccines. We'll just deal with the deaths if they die.

[twitchyzero]

O look I guess the none China vaccines aren't as good as they sound. With Euro countries banning it. But of course Canada says it's fine cuz we're desperate for any vaccines. We'll just deal with the deaths if they die.

which chinese one did we approve?

[westopher]

Government always wrong jdmdreams always right. 5 years full lockdown is the answer, don’t question it.

[JackAss]

O look I guess the none China vaccines aren't as good as they sound. With Euro countries banning it. But of course Canada says it's fine cuz we're desperate for any vaccines. We'll just deal with the deaths if they die.


I get that you hate China... So do I... but please educate yourself about the vaccines name and where they come from first. :failed:

[whitev70r]

So we passed the one year mark when Covid19 was declared a pandemic, people often use Mar 11 or that week as the starting point. It was then that NBA suspended games ... shock. LeBron said, 'I'm not playing in empty arenas'. NHL suspended games and everything started to unravel. Dr. Bonnie started shutting things down. Runs at Costco for toilet paper. Robson, Burrard and other major streets became like ghost town. Stock market dropped about 25-30% or more in some sectors. Gas price was like $0.95/l. Beginning of WFH. Surreal. Once in a generation pandemic. The world changed.

What have you learned in the past year?

[68style]

I’ve learned that people, in general, are really really really stupid

[whitev70r]

I would change that to 'some' people are really really stupid.

I was inspired by many health professionals who worked triple OT risking their own health. Some willing to do some very restrictive things in order not to infect their family members.

A crisis reveals the true nature and character of a person ... or a nation.

[pastarocket]

What concerns me the most is that before the one year anniversary of the pandemic start date, March 11th 2020, as per the World Health Organization, the world saw the UK and South African variants of Covid in people.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/03/12/bc-covid-cases-and-deaths/

-even more cases of variants in B.C. :heckno:

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – B.C. has recorded 648 new cases of COVID-19, a day after the province’s top doctor announced a relaxing of rules on outdoor gatherings.

No one has died of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, but there are 79 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 variants of concern.

[underscore]

I'd hesitate to say I learned anything new, more just confirmed what I already suspected about a lot of people.

[westopher]

I didn’t expect the population to be as fucking stupid as they have been. The YouTube university of doctors, the conspiracy theorists, etc. is mind boggling. Like the thought that the entire worlds governments has just decided to work together to invoke communism and angles like that. Imagine thinking this is benefitting governments throughout the world.

[Hondaracer]

Learned that the hospital system and healthcare in general is incredibly fragile and having a pandemic that is slightly worse than seasonal flu can shut down the world is fairly alarming

Hopefully lessons are learned to build in capacity for the future

[westopher]

having a pandemic that is slightly worse than seasonal flu.
Here’s a good example.

[Hondaracer]

When hospitalizations effect 0.00X% of the population and it can shut down the world? Ehhhhh..kinda fucked that our systems can’t handle the uptick.

So in BC we have 5 million people. Covid hospitalizations since the beggining of the pandemic are around 4400. That constitutes 0.0008 of the population

So an additional 0.0008% of the population of unexpected hospitalizations (over the course of a year) overwhelms the system?...

[westopher]

We’ve literally gone 100 years since something like this happened. I don’t disagree that hospital capacity should be increased in certain instances, but it’s fucking daft to say this is slightly worse than the seasonal flu.
Also probably worth mentioning the system was never at capacity.

[SkinnyPupp]

I’ve learned that people, in general, are really really really stupid
Apparently so

[The Producer]

i've learned that people's definition of hardship varies dramatically.

[twitchyzero]

What you call inconsistencies, I call Canada.

The reality is the nature of the case counts were very different from P.E.I. to Quebec to Saskatchewan to B.C to the territories, and provinces had different approaches because they had different situations on the ground.

limp leadership too common in canada..never wants to take blame

sure it's a massive country, but procurement is still 100% the Feds job

how hard is owning up to the misstep and being transparent with procurements? tell us how much we paid for each dose, what consequences the companies have if they dont meet the deadlines

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/vaccine-and-case-counts-will-determine-when-border-opens-says-trudeau-1.5344805

[snowball]

I didn’t expect the population to be as fucking stupid as they have been. The YouTube university of doctors, the conspiracy theorists, etc. is mind boggling. Like the thought that the entire worlds governments has just decided to work together to invoke communism and angles like that. Imagine thinking this is benefitting governments throughout the world.

This also scared me, but if anything I've realized during the vaccination push right now (especially in the US) is that it's a very loud and vocal minority but their numbers are smaller than they make themselves seem.

[GS8]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/3cc395d5b3c64e13f3c3af369d544cbe/tenor.gif

Oh yeah, who could forget what was happening one year ago...

[Hakkaboy]

I knew about anti-vaxxers before the pandemic, but at least they are scared about their kids get autism..

Anti-maskers on the other hand....OMG. There is literally no excuse if don't have a medical condition

[JDMDreams]

No it should be that you SHOULD WEAR extra masks if you have a health issue and not use it as an excuse not wear. It just means you're weak and gonna die faster or stay the fuck home. But then population control:accepted::lawl:

[spoon.ek9]

I knew about anti-vaxxers before the pandemic, but at least they are scared about their kids get autism..

Anti-maskers on the other hand....OMG. There is literally no excuse if don't have a medical condition

I hope that you're aware this is absolutely false information as well. Literally zero proof.

[westopher]

Imagine thinking Jenny McCarthy is a viable source of medical advice over you know, literally anyfuckingthing else.
Also, good news, my 83 year old grandparents, including my grandpa who just did 28 sessions of radiation for melanoma just got vaccinated a week and half ago. No illnesses, no side effects other than I quote, “ I can tell someone stuck a needle in my arm the day after, but that was the worst of it.”
Can’t wait to see them after all this shit.

[underscore]

I hope that you're aware this is absolutely false information as well. Literally zero proof.

Not only zero proof, but even if it was somehow true it still makes no sense to anyone who can count. You're far more likely to die of the diseases (if unvaccinated) than be autistic. And that's before even getting into the whole concept of a spectrum.

[68style]

Imagine thinking Jenny McCarthy is a viable source of medical advice over you know, literally anyfuckingthing else.
Also, good news, my 83 year old grandparents, including my grandpa who just did 28 sessions of radiation for melanoma just got vaccinated a week and half ago. No illnesses, no side effects other than I quote, “ I can tell someone stuck a needle in my arm the day after, but that was the worst of it.”
Can’t wait to see them after all this shit.

Congrats to your grandparents!! Grandpa dispelling more than 1 myth too... so many people out there claim cancer treatments don’t work too, just drink some alkaline water right? Fucktards

Btw anyone ever actually read up on Jenny McCarthy’s activism? She’s a dark dark person man... her son isn’t even actually autistic and she keeps saying he is to promote her views. She also claims she’s like the mother of dragons... a chosen one or “indigo mom” as they like to put it. She’s basically mentally ill, how she’s allowed to be on talk shows and judge singing competitions is beyond me.

[Hakkaboy]

I hope that you're aware this is absolutely false information as well. Literally zero proof.

Oh I know, I'm just saying that's still a 100 times better excuse than "it infringes on my freedom!!! "

https://youtu.be/PjH1aCj510o

[GLOW]

i think when jenny was asked to cite her sources and credibility etc, she backtracked a bit didn't she?

that 1st speaker, 'same reason i don't wear underwear, things gotta BREATH' LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

Everyone over 30 will be eligible for vaccination here starting tomorrow. Also all foreign domestic helpers, and all >16 students who will travel overseas to study

Do I rush into it or wait? Gym and travel is fucked anyway...

:considered:

[cdizzle]

Everyone over 30 will be eligible for vaccination here starting tomorrow. Also all foreign domestic helpers, and all >16 students who will travel overseas to study

Do I rush into it or wait? Gym and travel is fucked anyway...

:considered:

Only if you get a choice of which vaccine to take... :badpokerface:

[SkinnyPupp]

Only if you get a choice of which vaccine to take... :badpokerface:
We do actually, Pfizer/Biontech or Sinovac. And Astrazeneca next month.

I decided I'll try to book an appointment tomorrow, we'll see how it goes. With 5 million people suddenly eligible, it might be a gong show LUL

[GLOW]

get it now vs when astrazeneca may be an option you can't say no to?

[pastarocket]

Dr. Bonnie's Covid update for the past weekend:

1506 new cases (555, 491, 460)
10 deaths.
76 people are in ICU.

[SkinnyPupp]

All booked! First dose Monday, second dose April 12 POGGERS

[twitchyzero]

quick, blame telus again for the poor rollout

The B.C. RCMP and police in Vancouver, West Vancouver and New Westminster confirm they’ve had to ask frontline police to cancel appointments they aren’t eligible for, even though they identified themselves to call-takers as law enforcement and were accepted to book a shot. Correctional officers are currently eligible for vaccinations, while police and other law enforcement officers are not.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/police-in-b-c-asked-to-cancel-vaccine-appointments-after-misinformation-issue-1.5347887

[EvoFire]

quick, blame telus again for the poor rollout



https://bc.ctvnews.ca/police-in-b-c-asked-to-cancel-vaccine-appointments-after-misinformation-issue-1.5347887

The blame on Telus was ridiculous.

Telus was contracted for something like 100k calls a day from the government, they received 1.7 million calls in 4 hours and weren't staffed correctly for the volume.