[MG1]

YES!!!!!

takes the lead!

[Not really racist!]

wooooooooooooooooooooo

[Soundy]

FUCK YEAH DANNY!!!!

[satek]

GOAL!!!!! 4-3 daniel!!

[DsZ24]

DANIEL SCORES. YAAAAAAAAAAAA

[RCubed]

that was awesome!

[sunny_j]

4-3!!!!!

[spoon.ek9]

SEDINS :bowdown:

[Soundy]

Man, that goal was INSANE!

[TypeRNammer]

WOW

[MG1]

That's it, take it to them. You need an insurance goal or two.

[Not really racist!]

Fuck, back to the PK

[satek]

Powerplay for hawks....

[spoon.ek9]

hmmm powerplay with 2:59 to go

[MG1]

Biekshit again........ no worries, we have Monster for shorthanded goal.

[MG1]

Nice blonde behind AV............ where's the bouncing tits?

[RCubed]

LOL chicago cant get in!

[b0unce. [?]]

nice pk burn

[Not really racist!]

TAKEEE ITTTTTTTTTTT

[RCubed]

WOOOOOOt

[Soundy]

WINNNAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[satek]

Win... Great game!!

[DsZ24]

Hellz ya. We worked hard the whole game and it paid off

[Soundy]

FAK, Louie only stopped 42 of 45 shots?? What a worthless bum... we're paying this jerk HOW much?? TRADE HIM!!



:troll: :troll: :troll: :troll: :troll: :troll:

[sunny_j]

what a great game

[Not really racist!]

Daniel, ONE point behind Stamkos!!

[MG1]

Now THAT, my friends, was an awesome game!

Luigi definitely earned his pay tonight. A couple of weird goals, but the post and a few lucky moments saved the day. Shook the monkey off his back. The team came through with some pretty good goals. Solid ones as opposed to the fluke goals by the black cocks.

[Soundy]

Damn, Danny's goal was SICK, that's gotta be a play of the week!

[Soundy]

SO who were the three stars? 42-save performance should earn second star at least!

[MG1]

Thank you, Gillis. Thank you, AV.

Team is awesome. Awesome goalie tandem, lots of offensive talent, lots of young talent. First in NHL at this point in the season. Damn, I hope this is the year we go all the way. Cautious optimism.

[XxFcukxX]

this game was fucking awesome

[Tim Budong]

At game..or was fucking rocking!!!!!
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[shawn79]

look whos #1 in pts

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/statistics/

[InvisibleSoul]

Daniel, ONE point behind Stamkos!!

Daniel, ONE point AHEAD of Stamkos!!

http://i52.tinypic.com/dm8n0z.jpg

[InvisibleSoul]

Looks like Ehrhoff's goal was JUST offside...

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5199/screenhunter01feb042306.gif

This is how the Flames and Hawks fans saw it...

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8308/canucksref.jpg

[spoon.ek9]

^ hahaha you know, i was actually thinking the same thing when he took the shot, but they allowed it :D:D:D

[Not really racist!]

Looks like they didn't update that shit yet, I was wrong!!!

Even better!!

[FRStan]

awesome game

[Sentinel]

What a big win.

[Mizter]

Very entertaining game tonight. Even better that we got the win!

[cliffhanger33]

WOOO canucks made me proud today

[Sentinel]

Daniel is now #1 in points, Henrik is back by 4 points. Wonder if Henrik can catch up and win the Art Ross back to back?

[punkwax]

Best game of the season.
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[rb]

the suprising thing about the Art Ross race is that Crosby is still only 3 points back and he's been out for almost a month

[jing]

Pretty sure I just spotted Luongo drive past me in Yaletown lol
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[spoon.ek9]

the suprising thing about the Art Ross race is that Crosby is still only 3 points back and he's been out for almost a month

it's a shame really, crosby would have been "uncatchable" if he wasn't out with this concussion.

[dinamix]

it's a shame really, crosby would have been "uncatchable" if he wasn't out with this concussion.

injuries are part of the game. theres no excuses.keeping fit and healthy is also a part of being an MVP. sedins do alot of work with thier strength and condition off the ice

[BLUETIGER]

headshots are part of the game?
how do you stay healthy after getting hit in the head blindside and suffering a concussion?

[Oleophobic]

Fuck yeah first canucks game I went to where they won! 1 for 3 for me wooooooooh!
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[Tim Budong]

headshots are part of the game?
how do you stay healthy after getting hit in the head blindside and suffering a concussion?

injuries are part of the game. theres no excuses.keeping fit and healthy is also a part of being an MVP. sedins do alot of work with thier strength and condition off the ice

BLUETIGER hits the spot here. Many players have had their career's laid to rest due to headshots. Lindros was never hte same after he got knocked the fuck out and the guy's pretty damn ripped, not to say the guy was huge as well. Same thing in the NFL, headshots kill careers.

[dinamix]

BLUETIGER hits the spot here. Many players have had their career's laid to rest due to headshots. Lindros was never hte same after he got knocked the fuck out and the guy's pretty damn ripped, not to say the guy was huge as well. Same thing in the NFL, headshots kill careers.

If u play hockey dodging checks and keeping your head out of a vulnerable position is a skill too.
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[Tim Budong]

If u play hockey dodging checks and keeping your head out of a vulnerable position is a skill too.
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infact I do, keepin ur head up is a skill, but more of just being SMART. fact of the matter is, Sid was blindsided, and nothing will stop that

[Gumby]

;7293075']nice

+1 for jiggly bouncing green tits

(My view was partially blocked at first)

Me: Woah, thought it was the green guys for a sec.
Buddy: She put the green guys in her shirt.
Both of us: :lol

[raygunpk]

headshots are part of the game?
how do you stay healthy after getting hit in the head blindside and suffering a concussion?

by eating Fleury Flakes

[cliffhanger33]

If u play hockey dodging checks and keeping your head out of a vulnerable position is a skill too.
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loooooL

[raygunpk]

http://i52.tinypic.com/34ex1k1.jpg

zomg daniel sedin for hart, art ross, rocket, lindsay, norris, vezina, jennings, crozier

[cliffhanger33]

http://i52.tinypic.com/34ex1k1.jpg

zomg daniel sedin for hart, art ross, rocket, lindsay, norris, vezina, jennings, crozier

wow srs

[ImportXxX]

LLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[AzNightmare]

Daniel, ONE point AHEAD of Stamkos!!

http://i52.tinypic.com/dm8n0z.jpg

It's nice finally seeing Luongo getting in the top 5 goalie category... now to get in the other 2 categories :fullofwin:

[invader]

Getting excited for the post season

[dignatas]

Pretty sure I just spotted Luongo drive past me in Yaletown lol
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Luongo orders a lobster languini at this place called cappacuianio or somewhat LOL! It's his pre game ritual which he does every home game. It's located in yaletown too! Another fun fact is that a lot of away teams visit that restruant a lot. Last time I went, they said the coyotes went in the private room the day before i came.

[van19]

Luongo orders a lobster languini at this place called cappacuianio or somewhat LOL! It's his pre game ritual which he does every home game. It's located in yaletown too! Another fun fact is that a lot of away teams visit that restruant a lot. Last time I went, they said the coyotes went in the private room the day before i came.

He goes Cactus Club a lot as well. Sister works there and said spotted him yesterday and tonight.

[LsquareD]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs794.ash1/168445_10150115217892145_63958787144_6330748_47809 34_n.jpg

[trancehead]

If u play hockey dodging checks and keeping your head out of a vulnerable position is a skill too.
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one word

BLINDSIDE

[DanHibiki]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs794.ash1/168445_10150115217892145_63958787144_6330748_47809 34_n.jpg

When the hell was a cameraman allowed on the bench to take this photo?
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[illicitstylz]

He goes Cactus Club a lot as well. Sister works there and said spotted him yesterday and tonight.

was he spotting her? :troll:

[Soundy]

When the hell was a cameraman allowed on the bench to take this photo?
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Pre-game skate?

[Gh0stRider]

@SportsnetSpec Malkin has torn MCL and ACL, Penguins announce

Surgery needed, so he's gone for the season. What a major blow for the pens. GG


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[Sentinel]

@SportsnetSpec Malkin has torn MCL and ACL, Penguins announce

Surgery needed, so he's gone for the season. What a major blow for the pens. GG


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Wow so many injuries to the pens this season.. First staal was out for like 3mths, crosby who is still out, malkin out for 5 games, back for 1 now done for the season. That sucks for them.
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[JesseBlue]

the win last night did not feel like a win to me...the disallowed goal and the off side goals are little bit iffy...if they won big like a margin of 3 or more goals, i'm good...but they barely won it...oh well....:speechless:

[pure.life]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWdy5x1xfJk

[Hondaracer]

KHL gun is probably set higher just to prove their superiority over the NHL lol

[RiceIntegraRS]

i dont know the official rule on the offside call, but lets say our players are alll offside and erhoff shot it from center, and it goes in. is that offside call or does the goal still count?

cause ive seen plenty of times where players hammer the puck in while players are offside to get a change in.

[RRxtar]

the win last night did not feel like a win to me...the disallowed goal and the off side goals are little bit iffy...if they won big like a margin of 3 or more goals, i'm good...but they barely won it...oh well....:speechless:
good teams win games they should. great teams win games they shouldnt

[E-40six]

KHL gun is probably set higher just to prove their superiority over the NHL lol

It also looks like they placed the puck at the hash marks instead of behind the hash marks to be a little closer to the net

[RRxtar]

i dont know the official rule on the offside call, but lets say our players are alll offside and erhoff shot it from center, and it goes in. is that offside call or does the goal still count?

cause ive seen plenty of times where players hammer the puck in while players are offside to get a change in.
thats actually a good question. what if no player touches the puck and it scores on a delayed offside dump in?

[MG1]

KHL gun is probably set higher just to prove their superiority over the NHL lol

So they have same the format as the NHL All Star events? Team so and so vs team so and so?

Or did the NHL copy the KHL...............


Also, is hardest shot taken from the same distance?

110 mph, is pretty scary if it is in fact, true.

[InvisibleSoul]

thats actually a good question. what if no player touches the puck and it scores on a delayed offside dump in?

I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE it wouldn't count.

I'm not going to bother looking up the rule, but there must be a clause that specifically addresses it.

[MG1]

BTW, I saw the bouncy tits on the local news hour last night. Let's just say, "What's been seen cannot be unseen." As in, it was not a pretty sight. Sometimes too much is too much.

[InvisibleSoul]

Also, is hardest shot taken from the same distance?

110 mph, is pretty scary if it is in fact, true.

I'm quite certain that they shoot from WAY closer to the net than the NHL... and as such, I'm pretty sure the measurement is affected.

[Gumby]

BTW, I saw the bouncy tits on the local news hour last night. Let's just say, "What's been seen cannot be unseen." As in, it was not a pretty sight. Sometimes too much is too much.
Wow... I don't think I've ever seen/heard you say that a pair of bouncy tits was too much, regardless of size! :p

[InvisibleSoul]

I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE it wouldn't count.

I'm not going to bother looking up the rule, but there must be a clause that specifically addresses it.
Actually, I thought about it some more... and started having some doubts about it.

For soccer, it would count, because the play is only considered offside if the play is affected by the player(s) in the offside position. You can have players offside and still score a legitimate goal.

So I was wondering if the same thing applied for hockey... so I decided to look it up.

The answer is no...

83.4 Disallowed Goal – If the puck is shot on goal during a delayed off-side, the play shall be allowed to continue under the normal clearing-the-zone rules. Should the puck, as a result of this shot, enter the defending team’s goal during a delayed off-side, either directly or off the goalkeeper, a player or an official on the ice, the goal shall be disallowed as the original shot was off-side.

[RRxtar]

Makes sense. otherwise youd end up with a lot of people 'dumping' pucks in on net from outside the blueline hoping for the goalie to stop play and get a faceoff inside the zone as opposed to turning over the puck (on a dump in) or a faceoff outside the zone (for an offside)

[Tim Budong]

In depth look at Luongo's new mask! and the obvious reason why he isn't wearing it
http://ingoalmag.com/masks/luongos-new-mask/

[Hondaracer]

new mask is sick, i knew he wouldn't wear it last night though

[RRxtar]

Love Bobby Lu's new and current masks. I really dont like the airbrushed picture maks. they look like shit from more than 2 feet away and you cant tell what it is anyway. I love the style these are.

[Oleophobic]

Actually, I thought about it some more... and started having some doubts about it.

For soccer, it would count, because the play is only considered offside if the play is affected by the player(s) in the offside position. You can have players offside and still score a legitimate goal.

So I was wondering if the same thing applied for hockey... so I decided to look it up.

The answer is no...

definitely doesn't count
:lol hasek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_c_7l1vjtM

[Sentinel]

http://media.canada.com/idl/vapr/20061126/228871-85811.jpg

This is still my favourite one of Bobby Lu's..

[shawn79]

hasek is the ultimate troll goalie, swimming in the ice to make saves and dives into gaboriks break away to flip him :troll:

[Hondaracer]

http://media.canada.com/idl/vapr/20061126/228871-85811.jpg

This is still my favourite one of Bobby Lu's..

this plus the silver lined pads were my favorite so far as well

http://www.hockeyforum.com/photopost/data/500/nhlRoberto_Luongo.jpg

but the new one is very sick

[raygunpk]

Malkin has a torn MCL and ACL, ouch.

[CRS]

While we're on the offside goal topic...

Did anyone see what Kesler did the goal was scored? Start viewing at about 1:00 min and maybe you'll be able to see it. If not, just finish reading my post and rewatch because it is a little difficult to see.

YouTube - CanucksHD's Channel

Kesler was essentially coming into the play and just hopped off the bench when Hodgson was going back for the switch. As soon as Kesler hit the ice and Hodgson was in the bench, the goal was scored. Kesler, instead of going in and celebrating turned around right away and signaled for Hodgson to go back in to celebrate. In fact, it kind of looked like he left Erhoff hanging...

:lol

Class act.

[Tegra_Devil]

GOALLLL BY REGEHR!!!

[SumAznGuy]

definitely doesn't count
:lol hasek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_c_7l1vjtM

Official rule is a stoppage in play if the puck goes into the net or hits the goalie on a delayed offside with the resulting faceoff in the offending teams zone.

[MG1]

GOALLLL BY REGEHR!!!

Oh, was there a Calgary game on tonight? :showbutt:

[Ronin]

definitely doesn't count
:lol hasek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_c_7l1vjtM

Hasek = :troll:

PROBLEM, WASHINGTON?

[Alatar]

Oh man, cbc commentator on Terry Murray's lineup "He really tossed the salad!"
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[quasi]

Nice, wings lose again.

[Tim Budong]

i really liked luu's mask from the olympics
it was great with the jerseys too!

[Ronin]

That KHL hardest shot is probably bullshit or it isn't measured at the same spot as they do it in the NHL.

Yes, no player in the history of the NHL, the best hockey league in the world filled with the best players in the world have never shot harder than 105.9 MPH and some second-rate beer league filled with communists and aging players no longer good enough to play in the NHL has a guy that can beat that mark by FIVE? How plausible is that?

But either way, Zdeno Chara and the NHL probably don't give a shit. The KHL sucks and it probably will stay that way for years to come.

[fliptuner]

Maybe the KHL player is on the Ivan Drago workout.

[Tim Budong]

That KHL hardest shot is probably bullshit or it isn't measured at the same spot as they do it in the NHL.

Yes, no player in the history of the NHL, the best hockey league in the world filled with the best players in the world have never shot harder than 105.9 MPH and some second-rate beer league filled with communists and aging players no longer good enough to play in the NHL has a guy that can beat that mark by FIVE? How plausible is that?

But either way, Zdeno Chara and the NHL probably don't give a shit. The KHL sucks and it probably will stay that way for years to come.

u hit the point, the puck was placed in between the hashmarks, so it was up a lil bit more, in which it could be the difference, im no physics man, but someone shoudl chime in on my claim

[RRxtar]

arent the speeds measured with a radar? depending on the angle of the radar it may not make a ton of difference where the shot was taken from.


and in the end, why are we trying do discount the KHL players shot? are we, as NHL fans, actually that worried that someone somewhere else has a slightly harder shot?

[murd0c]

arent the speeds measured with a radar? depending on the angle of the radar it may not make a ton of difference where the shot was taken from.


and in the end, why are we trying do discount the KHL players shot? are we, as NHL fans, actually that worried that someone somewhere else has a slightly harder shot?

Personally I'm a Hockey fan I don't watch just the NHL. If another player has a shot like that fricken awesome. It's better for the game that there are great players in every league. What fun would it be if we had all the best players?

[Tim Budong]

id personally like to see the following three KHL players do accuracy, fastest skating and the puck control portion of the skill relay against some of the best in the NHL

Alex Radulov
Jgar
Yashin

especially the latter two, since they are so praised over there for their contributions. Radulov tho, that kid, is the face of the KHL, but we all know he's good enuff to be a regular in the NHL, and most likely be dominant

[SumAznGuy]

arent the speeds measured with a radar? depending on the angle of the radar it may not make a ton of difference where the shot was taken from.

The radar gun is placed on a tripod behind the net, about 2 feet off of the ground, IIRC.

Where the shot hits the net will make a difference on the recorded speed. Shots higher up or off to the side will show up with a lower speed than if the shot was bang on 2 feet from the ice and on the middle of the net.

[punkwax]

I think its entirely possible someone in the KHL has a 110mph shot. Just because the guy has a crazy shot doesn't mean he's a good enough hockey player to make the NHL.

I mean, hasn't anyone seen Happy Gilmore? :p

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/40266_1217253892926_400_217.jpg
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A more realistic comparison is long ball champions not playing on the PGA Tour. They're superior in one element of the game, but don't have the whole package.

[Vansterdam]

Haha yea I was thinking of happy gilmore too

Movies dope
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[CRS]

On NHL news...

Foppa is back!

It's official - Peter Forsberg is back in the NHL.

The Colorado Avalanche announced on Sunday that they have signed the veteran Swedish forward for the remainder of the current season. The team said that he will join the team and will be available to play during Colorado's upcoming road trip.

"We're proud to announce that Peter will be back in an Avalanche sweater," said Avalanche general manager and executive vice-president Greg Sherman in a statement. "Peter believes he can compete at the NHL level based on how his workouts went. He will provide additional leadership to our club and he will have an impact with this young team."

Forsberg has been practicing with the Avalanche for two weeks and declared himself ready to return to NHL action after a three-year absence.

"After testing my abilities with NHL players over the last few weeks, I feel confident that I can play at the NHL level and help this team," said Forsberg in a statement. "I wanted to see where I was at physically and I am ready for this new challenge."

Forsberg, 37, won two Stanley Cup titles over his 11 seasons with the Quebec/Colorado franchise. He was the NHL's MVP of the 2002-03 season.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=352749

[fliptuner]

Alberts should be ready to play tomorrow. Sweatt back to the Moose.

Salo not playing with Moose tonight but will play next game and should be ready for us on Saturday against the Flames.

[Tim Budong]

Wow looks like Phil Kessel has issues with Ron Wilson?

after practice he told reporters the following
Me and Ron don't really talk ... that's all I got to say about that."

Kessel did get bumped down to the 3rd line so its not all too great in laffnation

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Phil-Kessel-It-s-not-going-right-It-might-not?urn=nhl-317534&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Sentinel]

So with Edler on the LTIR and the with the return of Salo. Is the salary cap still affected then? Or does Edler's contract cancels out Salo's?
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[Tim Budong]

Salo's 3.5 will be prorated to games remaining in the season so they be fine. Edler's remaining salary for the rest of the season will not count against the cap
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[iwantaskyline]

Salo's 3.5 will be prorated to games remaining in the season so they be fine. Edler's remaining salary for the rest of the season will not count against the cap
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His salary is NOT prorated. The full 3.5 goes back onto the Canucks payroll once he is activated on the roster.

My assumption is they will not clear Edler to play until the playoffs (no cap in playoffs), which means we will be keeping Bieksa. If Edler is ready a few weeks before the playoffs then they can assign him to a max conditioning stint of two weeks on the Moose.

[RiceIntegraRS]

^wrong, Salo has missed 53 games so far thats 65% of the season which means thats how much we dont have to pay of his annual salary of 3.5Million if he rejoins the canucks right now

[raygunpk]

Alberts should be ready to play tomorrow. Sweatt back to the Moose.

Salo not playing with Moose tonight but will play next game and should be ready for us on Saturday against the Flames.

Actually Sweatt broke his foot blocking a shot, so he'll stay on the roster.

[fliptuner]

IDK, read it off here:

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=551748

[dbaz]

think someone already mentioned it but the KHL is a joke, the puck is placed just under half the distance it is in the NHL meaning a 13yr old could be hitting in the 90's. I guess the KHL needed to figure out a way to make themselves look better than the NHL and putting someone 6 feet away from the radar was the answer

[iwantaskyline]

^wrong, Salo has missed 53 games so far thats 65% of the season which means thats how much we dont have to pay of his annual salary of 3.5Million if he rejoins the canucks right now

Actually you're wrong. You clearly don't know how the salary cap works when it comes to LTIR situations.

[RiceIntegraRS]

A fail is coming your way when someone agrees and proves that im right. You can fail me if im wrong

[murd0c]

http://www.capgeek.com/FAQ.php

Teams receive cap relief when a player is considered to have a "bona-fide long-term injury" — injuries that cause a player to miss at least 10 games or 24 days. This is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of the CBA.

Just because a player is on LTIR does not automatically grant the team extra cap space. In the event a player is placed on LTIR, his cap hit still counts toward the team's overall cap payroll. Relief only comes if replacing the player's salary pushes the team's cap payroll to date over the cap. The amount of relief is limited to the amount the team has gone over the cap, not the entire amount of the injured player's salary.

There is no designation of "replacement players" and performance bonuses are not used in the calculation of LTIR relief.

To further explain this, take the concept of a bank account from 'How is cap space calculated during the season?' The team continues to spend its daily "deposit" once a player goes on LTIR, even when it calls up a replacement or multiple replacements. But any day its "payroll room" drops below zero, the team effectively receives an LTIR "credit" to cover the difference.

Example: Team A starts 2009-10 with a healthy 23-man roster. If no moves are made all season, that roster would finish the season with a final cap payroll of $56,600,000 — $200,000 below the $56,800,000 upper limit.

Take the bank account example from "How is cap space calculated during the season?" question in this FAQ. For each of the first 10 days, the team uses $293,264 of its $294,300 deposit. That adds up to $2,932,640 of the $2,943,000 that has been "deposited," meaning $10,360 is sitting in the bank for future use, if required.

* On Day 10, Player 1, with a $1,000,000 cap hit, sustains a long-term injury.
* On Day 11, Player 1 is placed on long-term injured reserve.
* On Day 11, Player 2, with a $700,000 cap hit, is recalled from the minors.
* As a result, Team A's cap payroll on Day 11 has risen to $296,890, because the daily cap hits of Player 1 and Player 2 must be included in the total.
* Although Team A only has a daily deposit of $294,300 on Day 11, it has $10,360 banked for future use, or $304,660 total.
* At the end of Day 11, Team A is left with $7,770 banked [$294,300 + $10,360 ] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 12, Team A is left with $5,180 banked [$294,300 + $7,770] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 13, Team A is left with $2,590 banked [$294,300 + $5,180] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 14, Team A is left with no money banked [$294,300 + $2,590] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 15, Team A gets its $294,300 "deposit," but has no banked money, and has a cap payroll of $296,890 that day.
* As long as the excess, $2,590 [$294,300 - $296,890], is less than Player 1's daily cap hit [$5,181], the team receives an LTIR credit. If the excess were to exceed Player 1's daily cap hit, another player would need to be placed on LTIR or Team A would need to demote a player or make another transaction to be cap compliant.
* If Player 1 stayed on LTIR all season and no other moves were made, Team A would receive LTIR relief of $2,590 per day, for each remaining day, and would finish each day, and the season, with $0 in cap space. Their LTIR credit would be $463,610 [179 x $2,590], because they only started earning LTIR credits on Day 15.



I know this is just for a 24 day injury but I think it could work like this I dunno this shit is so confusing.

[illicitstylz]

A fail is coming your way when someone agrees and proves that im right. You can fail me if im wrong

instead of the conventional slap to the face with a white glove, we give internet fails.

truly a duel to end all duels.

[dbaz]

basically canucks get covered for how much salo misses as hes on ltir. so basically when he comes back canucks are allowed to go over the salary cap by the the amount that is generated from the time he missed. same for the time burrows missed and the time edler will miss and the others.
Projected Credits
CURRENTLY ON LTIR:

* Sami Salo
* Alexander Edler
* Alexandre Bolduc

$3,341,375

That is from capgeek and i believe the longer those players stay on ltir the higher that will go. Basically no one needs to be traded and the canucks may actually be able to acquire someone at trade deadline.

[raygunpk]

instead of the conventional slap to the face with a white glove, we give internet fails.

truly a duel to end all duels.

LOL

[iwantaskyline]

A fail is coming your way when someone agrees and proves that im right. You can fail me if im wrong

I don't really care.

The only time a salary is pro-rated is if a player is signed mid season.

eg. Sundin.

Why do you think some of the media is saying Edler's injury is perfect timing? Canucks place Edler on LTIR which takes is 3.5 cap hit off the payroll allowing the Canucks to activate Salo.

[RiceIntegraRS]

so whose right here? or we both wrong?

[dbaz]

Edlers injury does not automatically take 3.5mil off cap. Canucks were short some say anywhere from 700,000-1.3mil before Salo could come back. Now with Edler missing the rest of the regular season that salary he has left on the season will go on LTIR meaning it adds up above 3.5mil with all the other LTIR injuries.

so whose right here? or we both wrong?
not him for sure, being injured 3/4 into the season doesn't allow someones full salary to come off the books like he said.

[iwantaskyline]

Basically in order for the Canucks to activate Salo, what they had to do was clear a "3.5 million dollar salary". Edler's cap hit is 3.5 and they are basically replacing that 3.5 with Salo's 3.5.

Obviously Edler has played most of the season so he has already been paid half of the 3.5. But to add Salo a cap hit of 3.5 (the full season cap hit) had to be removed.

A salary is only pro-rated if a player signs mid season and only plays half or however many games.

[Tim Budong]

the fact that we are having the debate is funny, becuz it puts into perspective that even the fucking GMs dont quite fully get it. ie. DARYL SUTTER..

[PiuYi]

jarko ruutu is coming back?

[orange7]

can't blame kessel for wanting to be trade out of toronto.

pretty sure he was hinting that

[dbaz]

From all the sites Ive read about ltir the salary its when he was injured 3.5/82 x however many games he missed goes towards ltir, the remainder against the cap. Same for edler and bolduc, salary/82 x amount of games played goes against cap rest goes on ltir. the amount totaling on ltir is the amount you can go over what your team's salary was at the beginning of the year. So basically yes canucks needed 3.5million on the ltir to bring back Salo or close to it and then minor moves but they didnt specifically need one player with a vap hit of 3.5million to go on. Whatever though only Bettman "knows" I guess lol

[raygunpk]

There is no prorating with players on LTIR, and there are no cap savings.
If Salo comes off LTIR his cap hit is in full because THERE ARE NO CAP SAVINGS.

[Sentinel]

Damn Stamkos got 4pts today. Some catching up for Daniel to do now. 3pts back from Stamkos now.

[iwantaskyline]

There is no prorating with players on LTIR, and there are no cap savings.
If Salo comes off LTIR his cap hit is in full because THERE ARE NO CAP SAVINGS.

Exactly.

[orange7]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/?bcpid=111121241001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAGWRwLc~,cRCmKE8Utf46gG3dA5445T_eha E-7xUB&bctid=779681676001


just watched the interview.

kessel wants a change.

he sounds so sad.

[4chinit]

Its not as simple as just coming off the LTIR and getting no cap relief, I don't claim to know how the cap works very well, but capgeek does attempt to explain it. It does depend on the amount of time the player is out for.

http://www.capgeek.com/FAQ.php



Teams receive cap relief when a player is considered to have a "bona-fide long-term injury" — injuries that cause a player to miss at least 10 games or 24 days. This is one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of the CBA.

Just because a player is on LTIR does not automatically grant the team extra cap space. In the event a player is placed on LTIR, his cap hit still counts toward the team's overall cap payroll. Relief only comes if replacing the player's salary pushes the team's cap payroll to date over the cap. The amount of relief is limited to the amount the team has gone over the cap, not the entire amount of the injured player's salary.

There is no designation of "replacement players" and performance bonuses are not used in the calculation of LTIR relief.

To further explain this, take the concept of a bank account from 'How is cap space calculated during the season?' The team continues to spend its daily "deposit" once a player goes on LTIR, even when it calls up a replacement or multiple replacements. But any day its "payroll room" drops below zero, the team effectively receives an LTIR "credit" to cover the difference.

Example: Team A starts 2009-10 with a healthy 23-man roster. If no moves are made all season, that roster would finish the season with a final cap payroll of $56,600,000 — $200,000 below the $56,800,000 upper limit.

Take the bank account example from "How is cap space calculated during the season?" question in this FAQ. For each of the first 10 days, the team uses $293,264 of its $294,300 deposit. That adds up to $2,932,640 of the $2,943,000 that has been "deposited," meaning $10,360 is sitting in the bank for future use, if required.

* On Day 10, Player 1, with a $1,000,000 cap hit, sustains a long-term injury.
* On Day 11, Player 1 is placed on long-term injured reserve.
* On Day 11, Player 2, with a $700,000 cap hit, is recalled from the minors.
* As a result, Team A's cap payroll on Day 11 has risen to $296,890, because the daily cap hits of Player 1 and Player 2 must be included in the total.
* Although Team A only has a daily deposit of $294,300 on Day 11, it has $10,360 banked for future use, or $304,660 total.
* At the end of Day 11, Team A is left with $7,770 banked [$294,300 + $10,360 ] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 12, Team A is left with $5,180 banked [$294,300 + $7,770] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 13, Team A is left with $2,590 banked [$294,300 + $5,180] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 14, Team A is left with no money banked [$294,300 + $2,590] - $296,890. No LTIR relief is required.
* At the end of Day 15, Team A gets its $294,300 "deposit," but has no banked money, and has a cap payroll of $296,890 that day.
* As long as the excess, $2,590 [$294,300 - $296,890], is less than Player 1's daily cap hit [$5,181], the team receives an LTIR credit. If the excess were to exceed Player 1's daily cap hit, another player would need to be placed on LTIR or Team A would need to demote a player or make another transaction to be cap compliant.
* If Player 1 stayed on LTIR all season and no other moves were made, Team A would receive LTIR relief of $2,590 per day, for each remaining day, and would finish each day, and the season, with $0 in cap space. Their LTIR credit would be $463,610 [179 x $2,590], because they only started earning LTIR credits on Day 15.



from what i hear from twitterverse, salo can come back without putting the nucks over the cap, even with elder back.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Don't misinterpret a frustrated Kessel. He doesn't want out from #Leafs. He did however throw Wilson under bus with "we don't talk" comment less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

kypers twitter

“It’s not happening here (on the line with Bozak), so maybe it’s time for a change,” a clearly frustrated Kessel said.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nhl/mapleleafs/article/934166--frustrated-kessel-feels-pressure-to-break-scoring-slump?bn=1

[MG1]

So, anyone go to the Canucks Open Practice today?

[shawn79]

burke looks dumb trading for kessel right now lulz

[tonyzoomzoom]

Burke was dumb giving away two first rounders for kessel, knowing full well that the club was going to be in rebuilding mode for quite some time.

[CRS]

burke looks dumb trading for kessel right now lulz

Burke was dumb giving away two first rounders for kessel, knowing full well that the club was going to be in rebuilding mode for quite some time.

This.

It was dumb of Burke to think Kessel was a guy you can build around. The real reason why he had so many points/goals the previous year was because Boston had the likes of Marc Savard feeding him the puck. Without an amazing play maker like Savard, Kessel will not be the spectacular player people saw in Boston.

In Toronto, he has no one to play with. No centre that can feed him the puck and no one to set him up. This results in a player who tries to be offensive but cannot due to the lack of support. Kessel was way overhyped and so they paid a King's ransom for him and it was a dumb move by Burke. Boston is now laughing their way to the bank with the 1st round picks. First in Seguin and you can only imagine it will be a top 5 pick in this year's draft.

Regardless, it seems like Burke is at a fork in the road. He has to either choose Kessel or Wilson. If he trades Kessel, he'll look like a complete fool. It seems like he has little recourse but to fire Wilson.

[invader]

How many years does Burke have left on his contract? I doubt hes getting an extension.

[quasi]

How many years does Burke have left on his contract? I doubt hes getting an extension.

3 more years and I also doubt he'll get an extension. He'll probably lose his job a year short of when they start turning it around.

[Mike Oxbig]

the only life for the maple leaf of rebuilding is trading kaberle for ANY 1st round pick and hope for top prospect falls at the draft (like fowler and gromley in 2010)

[Not really racist!]

Pretty happy for Emery, Ducks signed him

Emery signs two-way contract with Ducks

Looking to bolster their goaltending depth, the Anaheim Ducks have signed Ray Emery to a one-year, two-way contract. Terms of the deal were not released, but TSN reported the contract would pay Emery $500,000 in the NHL and $105,000 in the AHL.

Emery hasn't played since suffering a serious hip injury with the Philadelphia Flyers last season. He had surgery in April 2010 to repair the condition, called avascular necrosis, which saw the near-complete degradation of the top of the ball in his hip joint. It's the same injury that derailed and subsequently ended the athletic career of two-sport star Bo Jackson.

Emery has to clear waivers, and if he remains with the Ducks, they will assign him to their American Hockey League team, the Syracuse Crunch. The waiver process started Monday at noon ET, and concludes Tuesday at noon ET.

"Ray Emery has been a solid NHL netminder for several years and is only 28 years old," said Ducks Executive Vice President/General Manager Bob Murray. "We are going to give him a chance to go to Syracuse and establish himself again. He's worked hard to get back into shape and we are looking forward to seeing what he can do."

The Ducks could use a veteran backup to All-Star Jonas Hiller. Hiller was held out of Saturday's game against the Avalanche after complaining of fatigue and light-headedness. He's second in the League in games played (47) and shots faced (1,472), and first in saves (1,361). Curtis McElhinney started Saturday, with Timo Pielmeier recalled from Elmira of the ECHL to serve as the backup.

Emery has been on the ice since the fall, with the hope that he could resume a hockey career at some point.

"This is something I love to do and I don't want to take it for granted," Emery told ESPN.com in an October interview. "You can look at this as a bad thing or you can look at it as a chance to really realize that you should give it all you got because it's not over yet. Give it your best to get back at it."

He spent the 2008-09 season playing in Russia, and was on his way to a strong season with the Flyers prior to his injury. He was 16-11-1 with a 2.64 goals-against average and .905 save percentage in 29 games.

In six NHL seasons with the Ottawa Senators and Flyers, Emery is 87-51-15 with a 2.70 goals-against average and .907 save percentage. He backstopped the Senators to the 2007 Stanley Cup Final.

[invader]

Hmm probably has to conform to NHL rules now regarding his mask
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[Expresso]

Hmm probably has to conform to NHL rules now regarding his mask
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what rule is this?

[sunny_j]

i just got tickets for todays game:woot2:. i want to pick up a jersey today but cant decide if i want h.sedin, kesler or hamhuis

[quasi]

I'd go with Kesler, he has lots of years left on his contract and still hasn't peaked yet.

[raygunpk]

obivously #11 messier jersey, signed by ben roethlisberger

[shawn79]

FUCK MESSIER!
It was an emotional and high-profile move, with Messier returning to Canada after six years with the Rangers, but the honeymoon did not last. Before the season started, popular captain Trevor Linden relinquished the "C" to Messier, a move that did not go well with Canuck supporters as Linden was a fan favorite. According to some accounts, Linden willingly handed over the "C" out of respect to Messier but later regretted it and described Messier's invasion of the dressing room as hostile.[13] Shortly after Messier's acquisition, Linden was traded by Mike Keenan to the New York Islanders, where he became their captain, replacing Bryan McCabe, whom Linden was traded for along with Todd Bertuzzi. Messier's demand to receive the number #11, which he had worn throughout his career with the Oilers and Rangers, but which the Canucks had unofficially retired after Wayne Maki's unexpected death in 1974, hurt his image as well.[14]

In Messier's first game back on Broadway, MSG provided a video for him which was displayed on the big screen at the Garden. It was very emotional as some fans as well as Messier himself shedding tears. He went on to score a goal in that game against his former team where he received applause after doing so even though he wore a different uniform. One fan even displayed a sign which read "You will always be our captain Mess".

Sixty points in 1997–98 was his worst mark in a full year since his first NHL season; his next two seasons were shortened by injury and finished with 158 points over three years, considered below expectations compared to other star centermen earning around $6 million US a season, like Steve Yzerman and Joe Sakic. Keenan was fired from his post as Canucks' manager and coach midway in the 1998–99 season, as the club missed the playoffs during Messier's three years. The team made no attempt to re-sign Messier, whom Canucks fans never warmed to, and he became a free agent after the 1999–2000 season
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/08/messier.jpg

[shawn79]

i just got tickets for todays game:woot2:. i want to pick up a jersey today but cant decide if i want h.sedin, kesler or hamhuis

h.sedin with the C, respect our captain

[Sentinel]

Henrik jerseys are so limited at the canucks store. Especially the 3rd jersey. I ordered mine a week before xmas, they told me 2 weeks. I didnt get it until this past friday.
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[kristianhay]

h.sedin with the C, respect our captain

Yup! Got my Hank jersey for Christmas and have enjoyed it since. Always a good choice.

[Not really racist!]

nebody going to kesler autograph session tml @ team store? lol

[Ch28]

nebody going to kesler autograph session tml @ team store? lol

those meet & greets at the team store are a complete joke

they always schedule them at times where most normal working people can't attend

[!Nhan]

nebody going to kesler autograph session tml @ team store? lol

I might go, but also it depends on what the weather will look like.

Never been to an autograph session, do I bring my own pens? Serious question

[JesseBlue]

my wife got me a 3rd home jersey which she had her friend scour the lower mainland...i'm so happy with my h. sedin jersey

[JesseBlue]

i just got tickets for todays game:woot2:. i want to pick up a jersey today but cant decide if i want h.sedin, kesler or hamhuis
i'd go with hamhuis...but #2 is ohlund's number and i like ohlund :(

[Mizter]

I might go, but also it depends on what the weather will look like.

Never been to an autograph session, do I bring my own pens? Serious question :(

Fair questions, I had the same concern when I went to my first autograph session:fullofwin: They should have their own sharpies.

[woob]

nebody going to kesler autograph session tml @ team store? lol

What time does it occur? I may be willing to skip some class to get my jersey signed

[van19]

Details: Tomorrow (Feb. 8) from 4-5pm at the Canucks Team Store, Gate 6. Exclusive to the first 150 fans. Will we see you there? #Vancouverabout 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

Starts at 4 and ends at 5.
Only FIRST 150 fans so good luck getting in if you're not a couple hours earlier

[raygunpk]

those meet & greets at the team store are a complete joke

they always schedule them at times where most normal working people can't attend

And they still get packed!

[!Nhan]

Starts at 4 and ends at 5.
Only FIRST 150 fans so good luck getting in if you're not a couple hours earlier

How many is a couple? like 2? 3? lol

[Hondaracer]

meh, go buy a Kesler jersey from somewhere for $100, get him to sign it, worth probably 250

ya made $150 in 2 hours and ya got a cool souvenir

that was like when I got my Ovi jersey during that olympic signing where you had to buy the jersey from the bay

alot of people i know were like LOL! $180 for a Russia jersey? what a rip!

yea, its worth about 350 now holmessss

[van19]

How many is a couple? like 2? 3? lol

I've never been to one but I would assume around 12 or even earlier. It's not really "exclusive", its been posted on CDC , Facebook & Twitter.

http://forum.canucks.com/topic/295581-ryan-kesler-autograph-signing-team-store/

[Sentinel]

Another injury? Ahhhhhh fack.

[pure.life]

thats gotta hurt Ballard ~ hope he recovers quick

[dbaz]

any links? atdhe is sucking.

[fliptuner]

That twist did not look good.

I just just talking about how well he was blocking shots when it happenned.

[MG1]

Everytime I hear a Canuck is down, I pray to the hockey gods it's not someone critical.

[Sentinel]

MONSTEEEEEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DsZ24]

BURROWS IS A MONSTER

[satek]

BURROWS!! THE MONSTER

[DsZ24]

KESLER

[Sentinel]

BEAAASSSST

[Hondaracer]

lolololol omg @ sens

Aint nothin to it, Ryan Kesler made me do it!

[satek]

BEAST!!!

[MG1]

Monster and Beast

Next, Volswagon!!

[Derek_N84]

MONSTER AND BEAST !!!

I just got wood :D

[MG1]

Most overrated team in the NHL, LOLOLOLOL.................

Shows you how accurate those polls are - based on opinions of players

Ooooooh.............. some cute Senator fans behind the Canuck bench. Perhaps too young. Can't tell. Mind you, anything under 40 is too young for me, LOL.

[DsZ24]

Ooooooh.............. some cute Senator fans behind the Canuck bench. Perhaps too young. Can't tell. Mind you, anything under 40 is too young for me, LOL.

I saw her briefly at the start of the game but didn't get a good look at how old she is. Oh well :D

[LUUUUUUUU]

shit 4 Ds now?

[Nechako87]

fuuuuuu adhetnet.tv is so fucking shitty quality

any HD streams?

[LUUUUUUUU]

i think kristin reid is gonna be kesler's mistress :troll:

[MG1]

Puck bunny? She's more than that.............

[DsZ24]

SAMUELSSON, nice pass by kes

[Razor Ramon HG]

Wow, didn't expect a pass from Kesler there. What a goal.

[MG1]

What did the announcers just say about the assistant coach/trainer? He's too slow? When Kessler needed a stick. Wow! It sounded like they were making fun of the guy. LOL

[AzNightmare]

no shutout. :(

[LUUUUUUUU]

omg lol

[satek]

no shutout lol

[LUUUUUUUU]

FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 3 on 0

[DsZ24]

3 man breakaway. What happened there

[AzNightmare]

:troll:

hmmmmm........

[MG1]

Three man breakaway!?!?!?!

[raygunpk]

LOL game

[Razor Ramon HG]

That's like straight out of NHL11. So fucking dumb.

[AzNightmare]

nothing Lu could have done...

[satek]

3 man breakaway....shitty

[Hondaracer]

brutal

[Oleophobic]

that hurt

[LUUUUUUUU]

wow hansen

[pure.life]

no finish by Torres

[pure.life]

lol nux are taking it easy with this game

[LUUUUUUUU]

FFS

[satek]

So many penalties.......

[pure.life]

are they gonna even out the penalties now?

[LUUUUUUUU]

oh my gawd

[AzNightmare]

wow.. so many posts..

[AzNightmare]

wow... Sens are really quick... or canucks just aren't skating.

[raygunpk]

that kids going off

[orange7]

for some reason, it seems like the canucks are on cruise mode.

there's not enough urgency.

[raygunpk]

That's how we do against weaker teams.

[raygunpk]

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/521/kesler94coho777.jpg

:troll:

[b0unce. [?]]

such a sloppy game tonight.

[LUUUUUUUU]

god damn.. flames r on fire

[Tegra_Devil]

yup they are

[LUUUUUUUU]

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Tegra_Devil]

VICTORY 8th spot!

[need2speed]

Powerplay!!!

[MG1]

wow.. so many posts..

Yup, closing in on 1500, in fact. Will we make it to the 2000 mark by the end of season? :troll:

[MG1]

VICTORY 8th spot!

Thanks for the update. We can always count on you............

[sonick]

What's with people losing their gloves this game? Seen it happen like three times this game already, but rarely ever before.
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[sell_item_604]

powerplayyyyy

[MG1]

PP needs to get going.

[Tim Budong]

A picture from REUTERS on Ballard's injury...pretty nasty boys
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=tb7vv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
if that dont work, then this link
http://yfrog.com/gytb7vvj

[need2speed]

A picture from REUTERS on Ballard's injury...pretty nasty boys
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=tb7vv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
if that dont work, then this link
http://yfrog.com/gytb7vvj


holy crap hope its not a acl/mcl

[spoon.ek9]

shitty deal... d-men going down like flies :(

[LUUUUUUUU]

we still dont have enough D lol... time to get chris phillips

[sonick]

holy crap hope its not a acl/mcl

It's definitely going to be one or both of those.
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[Tim Budong]

It's definitely going to be one or both of those.
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pic looks like its ankle more than knee

[sonick]

pic looks like its ankle more than knee

Hope so but the replay seemed like he was clutching his knee.
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[spoon.ek9]

sammy!

[DsZ24]

Bout time someone hit that empty net lol. SAMUELSSON

[need2speed]

samuelsson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[satek]

SAMMY!

[Not really racist!]

Game!

[Hondaracer]

lol fuckkkk was sweating there

i put $50 down on Canucks to win by 1.5 goals lol

thank you samuelsson!

[Not really racist!]

Buttfugly finally gets a point eh....... and Crosby expected to be out till March.. ouch..

Hopefully Ballard recovers by the playoffs

[orange7]

Buttfugly finally gets a point eh....... and Crosby expected to be out till March.. ouch..


I like crosby, but this is good news for daniel.

now he can focus down on stamkos.

[LUUUUUUUU]

heard on team 1040 today saying crosby could join malkin and sit out the rest of the season as they dont wanna take any chances... fuckin blows

[Nechako87]

A picture from REUTERS on Ballard's injury...pretty nasty boys
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=tb7vv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
if that dont work, then this link
http://yfrog.com/gytb7vvj

holy crap....your leg is definitely not supposed to bend that way...

please don't be injured...

[mb_]

A picture from REUTERS on Ballard's injury...pretty nasty boys
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=tb7vv.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
if that dont work, then this link
http://yfrog.com/gytb7vvj

fuck that looks so fucking bad :/

[AzNightmare]

Buttfugly finally gets a point eh....... and Crosby expected to be out till March.. ouch..

Hopefully Ballard recovers by the playoffs

Yup... no points in 12 games. I just dropped him yesterday.
And he gets a point. I knew if I drop him, he would finally wake up.
I just picked him up again.... :fullofwin:

holy crap....your leg is definitely not supposed to bend that way...

please don't be injured...

miracle if he's not injured by looking at that picture... :(

[Hondaracer]

i tried to bend my leg like that, then i realized i was having trouble doing it the oposite "normal" way lol... uh oh..

[MG1]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/swedish_monster.jpg

............ Swedish Sea Monster.

He looks like one. A face only a mother could love, LOL.

[AzNightmare]

should I pick him up for my head to head pool??

I already have kane, eriksson, and selanne...
how consistent is he going to be...

[Ronin]

Man, Ballard was just starting to beast it up on D too. Hope it's not too serious or he's ready for the playoffs.