[shawn79]

reminds me of this...
ryan smyth gets destroy feelsgoodman
ryan smyth gets put on strecher feelsbadman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPphB84zMCM

[DanHibiki]

Dan Hanhuis must be a shy guy. He scores a OT game winner and he barely even celebrates. His face prob turned red knowing he played the hero tonight.

[shawn79]

Dan Hanhuis must be a shy guy. He scores a OT game winner and he barely even celebrates. His face prob turned red knowing he played the hero tonight.

friend met him at a autograph session said hes a shy guy

[MG1]

I guess they can curve the glass or angle it. Bottom of body is kept in line with boards and glass is introduced gradually in line with the boards later on. At least you won't go head on with an object that isn't gonna move.

[ShyGuy]

Did you guys see the Rick Rypien interview? He's looking good. Can't wait to see him back in the lineup.

[shawn79]

Did you guys see the Rick Rypien interview? He's looking good. Can't wait to see him back in the lineup.

our bottom 6 looks stacked with rypien, lappierre, higgins, tambellini.... but can they play hockey when it matters? :whistle:

[604778]

I didn't even noticed that was Rypien after they showed his name. I was like "really that's Rypien?" Looks funky with his beard.
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[Ronin]

Holy balls, that Chara hit looked brutal. If he didn't know that turnbuckle was there...

[Expresso]

Looks like Bettman is finally giving up on PHX. Let's go GOLDWATER!

[nosaj]

Rick Rypien speaks to the media for the first time

http://video.canucks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=0&id=101870

Canucks Celebration 03/08/11

http://video.canucks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=805&id=101979

[Gumby]

I wonder if Pacioretty's visor helped in any way?

[Okami]

I wonder if Pacioretty's visor helped in any way?

his neck still snapped way back :/

I didn't even noticed that was Rypien after they showed his name. I was like "really that's Rypien?" Looks funky with his beard.
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when i saw rypien it reminded me of that time brock lesnar had a beard.. hope he doesnt suck and get knocked out too..

[Machi604]

I wonder if Pacioretty's visor helped in any way?

Probably helped a bit?! Looked brutal though.. news is broken vertebrae and a severe concussion.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/592/254939843.jpg

[AzNightmare]

Was there any drama going on?
I heard maybe some sort of retaliation... but I don't really follow Boston or Montreal.

[Mizter]

^It had something to do with an OT goal that Pacioretty scored sometime back.

The picture looks pretty bad. Look at where Chara's hands are. To me it looks like the intent to injure was there.

[Machi604]

Was there any drama going on?
I heard maybe some sort of retaliation... but I don't really follow Boston or Montreal.

^It had something to do with an OT goal that Pacioretty scored sometime back.

Yep, from this game earlier in the year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuRSLZ8LRRs

"Basically we were racing for the puck and battling for position. As the puck went by, I was riding him out," said Chara.

(It's) very unfortunate that at the same time I pushed him a little bit, he kind of leaned and jumped a little bit, and just hit the glass extension. It's very unfortunate.

I knew we were somewhere close to our bench, but obviously that wasn't my intention, to push him into the post. It's very unfortunate, in that situation, everything's happening fast. I wasn't planning to do that. That's not my style to (try to) hurt somebody. I always play hard, play physical, but I never try to hurt anybody. I hope he's okay.

Not sure if there's really bad blood between them, but SERIOUSLY??? :eek:

[mako]

He's no friendly giant. That's for sure
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[7seven]

So Pacioretty suffered a severe concussion and non-displaced fracture of 4th cervical verterbrae. Looks like he'll be out close to a year and who knows if he ever returns or how he'll be after. Erik Cole hasn't really been the same since his fractured verterbrae.

[SumAznGuy]

why is that? please educate me

wouldn't retired canadians rather stay in Canada due to health care and etc.?

If you were retired, would you want to stay in Canada where the air is cold and dry and you have to shovel your driveway of all that snow?
Don't just think of Vancouver, but every other province in Canada.

All you need to do is be in Cananda for half the year and you can collect your CPP and old age pension. Rest of the time, you can be in sunny FLorida, Arizona, or California hence why Bettman thought it would be a great idea to have NHL hockey teams in these locations.

And you can buy travel insurance in CAnada, and then live 5-6 months in the US and be covered for health care.

[b0unce. [?]]

rypien with a beard looks like billy mays

[Ch28]

So Pacioretty suffered a severe concussion and non-displaced fracture of 4th cervical verterbrae. Looks like he'll be out close to a year and who knows if he ever returns or how he'll be after. Erik Cole hasn't really been the same since his fractured verterbrae.

Sad thing about all of this is that Chara will get nothing but a slap on the wrist because of his star status.

[Ch28]

Sad thing about all of this is that Chara will get nothing but a slap on the wrist because of his star status.

Why am I not surprised? /picard

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357209

NO SUSPENSION OR FINE FOR CHARA'S HIT ON PACIORETTY

Bruins defenceman Zdeno Chara (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=zdeno+chara) will not face further discipline for his hit on Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=max+pacioretty) on Tuesday night, the National Hockey League announced Wednesday afternoon.

"I conducted a hearing with Boston Bruins' defenceman Zdeno Chara (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=zdeno+chara) with respect to the major penalty for interference and game misconduct that he was assessed at 19:44 of the second period for a hit on Max Pacioretty (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=max+pacioretty) of the Montreal Canadiens," NHL vice-president of hockey operations said in a statement.

[7seven]

Sad thing about all of this is that Chara will get nothing but a slap on the wrist because of his star status.

Yup, you're correct, NHL just announced no suspension or fine for Chara.

[411ken]

I wonder what he would have gotten if say he hit Crosby or Ovy like that...

either way.. this is a joke... not even a fine... unbelievable

[Bouncing Bettys]

Chara gets no further punishment. To me, it looks pretty obvious he knew what he was doing and he knew where he was and thus where the turnbuckle was. He's been playing hockey for how long and he claims he didn't anticipate such a collision? Factor in the history between the 2 players, the domination by the habs in that game, and the late timing of the incident and it seems he was even motivated by anger.

[quasi]

If it was a 4th line player who did the hit it would be a suspension. The NHL rarely suspends stars.

[fliptuner]

Not surprised but still disgusting all around.

[7seven]

Factor in that Chara also plays for the NHL's head of disclipine son's team, does this really surprise anyone, especially given Colin Campbell's leaked emails that came to light about 6months ago, what a joke. I know Mike Murphy made the decision but you have to be blind if you think Colin Campbell (his boss) didn't give his 2 cents, Campbell should've been fired when his emails were leaked.

[fliptuner]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Coyotes+remain+limbo/4409011/story.html


There is a colourful two-word term that perfecty describes the Phoenix Coyotes' situation.

The first word is cluster.

You know the second word.....


LOL

[Greenstoner]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Coyotes+remain+limbo/4409011/story.html




LOL

FUCK

[Mizter]

Not surprised but still disgusting all around.

+1

Not even a fine..Did the NHL issue any reason why there was no punishment?

[fliptuner]

Oh and a few pages back, the 7 year anniversary of Bert's hit on Moore was mentioned. I didn't realize Moore's case against Bert and Orca bay hasn't even been heard yet.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Court+date+lawsuit+against+Bertuzzi+approaching/4400501/story.html

[!Nhan]

I like how in the post game interview Price was the only guy to call Chara out. He said that it's the job of all the players to know where they're at at all times and that Chara knew that they were coming up into the glass in the middle.

Sad sight and yeah another NHL star goes undisciplined.

[platinum300]

That's totally BS Chara didn't get suspended. Looking at the Youtube video and screen capture a few pages back, it looks to me like a head shot. I thought the NHL is cracking down on head shots.

[murd0c]

the NHL is a joke plain and simple for the double standereds they have. They keep on saying they want to be like the NFL? well it doesn't matter who it is in the NFL they will get what they deserve. Bettman is the one thats fucking everytihng up. It's time for him to get booted out.

[stuff99]

"If you cause a player to be injured, then you have to be responsible for the play ... if there's any carelessness or recklessness in it." Colin Campbell on Ovechkin's suspension last year

[Hondaracer]

it was a hockey play in the end, and intent cant be established therefor no penalty

it's as simple as that

[Roach]

NHL Head Office is full of idiots. It's shocking.

Kev

[b0unce. [?]]

When team1040 discussed this today, they mentioned what henrik thought about it.
"Every players knows where they are on the ice."

It's as simple as that. People are arguing that Chara didn't intentionally hit him there, but he had every chance to hit him earlier or wait after the divider in the boards and nudge him then. Chara playing at an elite level that he is, definitely knew what he was doing. Dirty.

[AzNightmare]

It was a late hit too.

[LsquareD]

Dirty dirty dirty play by Chara. Can't believe he's not suspended. WTF

[hotjoint]

yup dirty play, superstar treatment is what it comes down to.

[AzNightmare]

so if crosby gets taken out like that.
Superstar vs Superstar. What happens then :confused:

[b0unce. [?]]

so if crosby gets taken out like that.
Superstar vs Superstar. What happens then :confused:

they cancel each other out.

[604778]

"From Coach V: Schneider will start in San Jose. Both Raymond and Higgins will be game-day decisions." Via Vancouver Canucks Facebook.

[fliptuner]

Game time? I thought they already sent Oreskovick back.

[Hondaracer]

meaning one of them at least will be playing i would think

[woob]

If both are ready, I want to see Higgins play. With Raymond playing through a shoulder and groin problem, the rest would probably help.

[Soundy]

;7335516']When team1040 discussed this today, they mentioned what henrik thought about it.
"Every players knows where they are on the ice."

It's as simple as that. People are arguing that Chara didn't intentionally hit him there, but he had every chance to hit him earlier or wait after the divider in the boards and nudge him then. Chara playing at an elite level that he is, definitely knew what he was doing. Dirty.

There's just one problem with this theory: it assumes that Pacioretty was a mannequin and just stood there like a ragdoll, allowing Chara to steer him wherever he wanted to.

What happens, though, if Chara aims to take Pacioretty into the glass, hits him at that angle, but Pacioretty either backs off or tries to aborb the hit, and they both hit the boards sooner than Chara intended? Or conversely, if Chara was aiming to flip him over the low boards into the bench, but Pacioretty tried to fight him off, changing the trajectory into the stanchion?

Just two of the most obvious (to me, anyway) "what-ifs" that can happen in a split second... both fully accept that Chara would know where he was on the ice, and knew exactly where he INTENDED to take Pacioretty... and things didn't go as expected.

And both are very strong arguments an arbitrator or PA lawyer could make if strong discipline were brought down.

There's no clear intent... and without intent, it's nothing more than an unfortunate accident.


That's totally BS Chara didn't get suspended. Looking at the Youtube video and screen capture a few pages back, it looks to me like a head shot. I thought the NHL is cracking down on head shots.

:failed:

I don't hear anyone else saying "head shot"... including people who actually know something about hockey.

[pure.life]

OV scored his first home powerplay goal of the season. Amazed by how long it took

[orange7]

stamkos is having a good game.

[Ronin]

it was a hockey play in the end, and intent cant be established therefor no penalty

it's as simple as that

Yep.

[Tim Budong]

There really isn't much intent. It looked worst than it should for Chara being the giant he is, but they cannot fault him for his size. he's 6'9 on foot, maybe 6'11 to 7ft on skates. MaxPac, probably is starting to stride, is in "stance" for his actions. knees bent, hands on stick. and maxpac being 6'2 on foot. Chara just TOWERED over him

[dignatas]

that check was really late. karma would hit the bruins this year. You will see...

wow just noticed it was 15 seconds left of the period too. Even more late!

[Noir]

Why not draw a box around the benches and penalty boxes and make that a no hit zone? That's how stupid knee-jerk opinions sounds.

[shawn79]

that check was really late. karma would hit the bruins this year. You will see...

wow just noticed it was 15 seconds left of the period too. Even more late!

when daniel sedin scores in OT goal in boston 1on1 against chara :fullofwin:

[trancehead]

LOL people here are talking about how a player must be responsible for knowing his exact surroundings? newsflash, look at how fast the game moves. and the players are MOVING as well not stagnant ragdolls. Everything and anything changes in an instant.

Yes it was unfortunate, but given the stature of chara vs max, his head was right there. Just ask Sir Isaac Pronger

[Tegra_Devil]

victory flames! :devil:

[MG1]

victory flames! :devil:

Seaweed! :fullofwin:

[Majestic12]

victory flames! :devil:

..But gave Dallas an important point.

[trancehead]

victory flames! :devil:

I sincerely do hope they make the playoffs:fullofwin:
but at 8th seed:)

[JesseBlue]

i hope they don't make the playoffs...

[quasi]

i hope they don't make the playoffs...

Agreed, but on the last day getting bounced by someone like EDM who needs to lose in order for them to finish 8th. That would be epic on so many levels and well....it would make me laugh.

[lol]

lol ya that would be dope.

If you guys play hockey you will know that Chara is fully aware of what he did and the position they were in on the ice. He probably didn't want him to be that injured but the intent to move him into the turn buckle was obviously there. That play wasn't even necessary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEaY_k8pMA

[justYU]

^ agreed

Chara intentionally tried to hit him against the turn buckle. His head was up and knew that the turn buckle was coming.

[taker]

These guys have played hockey all their life. They know their way around a rink, intent was definitely there. NHL fail.

[MG1]

Not all rinks are the same, plus none of us can play with the speed and intensity that these guys play with. Then there are the other factors such as the crowd, the emotion, the fatigue factor, etc. Anyway, we can argue this till the cows come home. What's done is done.

[Greenstoner]

shark tank tonight !!!!!!

[Hondaracer]

"if you played hockey"

Yea becuase playing pickup games at 8 rinks is an NHL equivelent..
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[murd0c]

Not all rinks are the same, plus none of us can play with the speed and intensity that these guys play with. Then there are the other factors such as the crowd, the emotion, the fatigue factor, etc. Anyway, we can argue this till the cows come home. What's done is done.

It doesn't matter he knows where he is on the ice especially being a D, I played a high level of hockey Jr A and when you are at a rink you have to know every aspect of the arena you are at or else you will either get smoked or you would be less able to break free after a puck.

As well a NHL player blocks out the crowd when they play, they are way to focused on the game and trying to predict what will happen next.

Saying he didn't know is a stright up BS excuse!!!

[Soundy]

...intent was definitely there.

Why are you wasting time on RS, instead of winning the lotto or something with your amazing psychic powers?

[fliptuner]

I can understand both sides but IMO he still shoud've got a 3 - 5 game suspension for several reasons (regardless of intent and awareness of the rink conditions):

-to solidify the fact that head shots will not be tolerated,
-superstars will not be immune to the rules,
-to send a message to fans, future players and media that the issue is under control by the NHL

Even sponsors are not happy with how it was dealt with:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/951618--nhl-could-lose-air-canada-sponsorship-media-report?bn=1

If he recieved 5 games it would appease the fans, some players, media and sponsors and there wouldn't be too much debate over it. The lack of a suspension is bad press, especially when Pacioretty is so badly injured and out of the game for up to a year.

[Hondaracer]

Even if he "knew where he was" which is debatable because the stantion is different in every arena, can you honestly say that in that fraction of a second chara made the choice to ram his head into it?

The puck was played into the Boston zone and chara went to go rub him out in the boards, skating at full tilt and catching him at that exact spot was just unlucky IMO if that hit was at all intentional and somone WANTED to ram the opostions head into that pole the timing on that hit would have to be absolutely perfect with the right amount of speed and angle,
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[stuff99]

Like I said in the previous page: ""If you cause a player to be injured, then you have to be responsible for the play ... if there's any carelessness or recklessness in it." Colin Campbell on Ovechkin's suspension last year"

There's no consistancy with the NHL. It's all a crap shoot on how they suspend players. Can anyone justify Murphy's explanation on Chara's lack of suspension with the same explanation his boss gave about Ovechkin's hit last year?

[BlackZRoadster]

Someone with photoshop skills should do this:

max shoving chara and taunting in one pic from previous game, and the other with max in the partition.

[Hondaracer]

If there is one argument to be made with all of this, i will agree that consistancy is the main thing in question
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[RRxtar]

Why do you guys keep using the reasoning that "things happen very fast in the NHL and you cant think fast enough to make decisions"

ITS PRO HOCKEY! EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST ALL THE TIME. if you cant think fast enough to keep up, or have split second spacial awareness, you arent good enough for pro hockey. If guys can spot and tip a 100mph slap shot thru a screen and purposely put the puck over the goalies blocker, I think they know whats going on every split second of every minute of the game. even at the most rec level of a sports league, you've got a pretty good idea of whats going on.

You know how sometimes you get a feeling like everything slowed down and you can make thoughs super quick, pro athletes live that in their sport.

I dont think he had intent to break his neck. But I have no doubt he knew he was giving him the extra shove rubbing him along the boards when he knew he was getting beat.

[7seven]

Ok, police involvement is just idiotic

Montreal police launched an investigation Thursday into this week's devastating hockey hit on Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty.

The investigation follows a recommendation from Quebec's director of criminal and penal prosecutions to the provincial department of public safety look into whether Tuesday night's hit, during a game in Montreal between the Canadiens and the Boston Bruins, could be considered criminal.

"Many people were questioning the possibility that this gesture might be criminal," prosecutions spokeswoman Martine Berube said of the reasons behind the chief Crown prosecutor's move. "At this moment, we asked to see if there is evidence of a crime being committed, so we are just at the first step."

The check, by Boston Bruins defenceman Zdeno Chara, knocked the 22-year-old Pacioretty unconscious, fractured his fourth cerebral vertebra and resulted in a severe concussion. He remained in hospital Thursday morning.

Chara's checked Pacioretty into the stanchion, which divides the players' benches, a brutal high-speed collision that saw the Canadiens' player's body twist then crumple to the ice. Images of the hit have replayed constantly since Tuesday night on TV sportscasts and news shows.

Montreal police said Thursday that they had received a call from the ministry of public safety and would be investigating the hit.

"We are trying to understand exactly how it is going to happen," said Olivier Lapointe, a spokesman for the Montreal police.

The director of criminal and penal prosecution wasn't the only person calling for an investigation.

Police in Montreal said they received several 911 calls from the public demanding an investigation into the hit.

While there has been no indication of charges yet in the incident, there is legal precedent for charges stemming on-ice actions in the NHL.

Former Boston Bruins player Marty McSorley was criminally charged and eventually convicted of assault with a weapon after using his stick to club the Vancouver Canucks' Donald Brashear in the side of his head in 2000. He was given a conditional discharge, meaning he has no criminal record.

Also in Vancouver, Todd Bertuzzi, a Canucks forward, pleaded guilty to assault in 2004. Bertuzzi was criminally charged after he high-profile on-ice sucker-punch of Steven Moore of the Colorado Avalanche.

Moore suffered three broken vertebrae in his neck and a concussion. He has not played hockey since and has launched a civil suit against Bertuzzi and the Vancouver Canucks, which has yet to go to trial.

There is also a precedent for criminal charges being laid in connection with traumatic injuries sustained on the ice in Quebec. Last October, former Quebec Major Junior Hockey League forward Patrice Cormier pleaded guilty to a charge of assault causing bodily harm and received an unconditional discharge after delivering a vicious hit to the head of Quebec Remparts defenceman Mikael Tam. Tam suffered brain trauma.

It was the same sentence handed down to son of former Montreal Canadiens goaltender Patrick Roy, Jonathan Roy, who pleaded guilty to an assault charge in 2009 after pounding rival goalie Bobby Nadeau during a hockey brawl in March 2008.

rlindell@postmedia.com

Twitter.com/rebeccalindell



Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Quebec+police+probe+devastating+Chara+Pacioretty/4415801/story.html#ixzz1GDhMnxRE

[MG1]

ITS PRO HOCKEY! EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST ALL THE TIME.

Like going down the track at 250 MPH!!!

Tipping the puck - most of the time it is an attempt - good ones, if you're at that level. Sometimes it works and the puck goes in. If players were that good at tipping the puck in, the score would be much higher. NHL goalies, they have amazing reaction times and they can follow the puck a lot better than any amateur goalie, but yet they get scored on.

They're human........... that's why you see crashes on the track, people getting injured, etc.

The game is so much faster nowadays - could be because of the improvement in equipment or other factors. I also believe players take bigger risks in today's game. They play at the brink of their......... can't find the right words. Anyway, you can slow the replay and say, "Wow, did you see that? His eyes were........". Analyze till the crows come home. The incident was tragic, but what's next? Slow the play down and play less aggressive and with less passion?


Just saiyan..............

[Hondaracer]

So since he knew he was giving him that extra push, was he knowingly pushing him into the stantion?
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[InvisibleSoul]

I personally believe that Chara knew what he was doing and purposefully pushed him into the turnbuckle.

I'm sure he didn't intend for him to get that badly hurt though.

[Noir]

Why do you guys keep using the reasoning that "things happen very fast in the NHL and you cant think fast enough to make decisions"

ITS PRO HOCKEY! EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST ALL THE TIME. if you cant think fast enough to keep up, or have split second spacial awareness, you arent good enough for pro hockey. If guys can spot and tip a 100mph slap shot thru a screen and purposely put the puck over the goalies blocker, I think they know whats going on every split second of every minute of the game. even at the most rec level of a sports league, you've got a pretty good idea of whats going on.

You know how sometimes you get a feeling like everything slowed down and you can make thoughs super quick, pro athletes live that in their sport.

I dont think he had intent to break his neck. But I have no doubt he knew he was giving him the extra shove rubbing him along the boards when he knew he was getting beat.

That's exactly why a lot of hockey fans aren't in an uproar because what you just described above is just another hockey play. It's that common. Where it occured is where it's an absolute fluke but the plays you just described happens in all areas of the ice rink.

Had it occurred on the other side of the rink where the glass is continuous or not in the neutral zone, Chara would've just gotten an interference or boarding at most.

People, or maybe fans just need to understand that hockey by nature is just inherently dangerous. When you factor the size of pro-athletes + the speed of ice hockey at pro levels + the necessity of full contact, there's no amount of rule changes, or rule additions that'll make hockey a safe sport.

[MG1]

This will never end, because it happened in Habs country. Air Canada is now contemplating pulling their sposorship/ads/whatever from the NHL. They don't want to associate their company with an organization that isn't responsible. That's a crock of shit. Isn't the CEO an avid Habs fan?

Now the police are getting involved. WOW!

Fix the rink........ take that fucking glass out of there!!!! Oh, what was that about some guy who almost lost his nose from a tiny little glory hole in the glass......... oh, wait....... these players know every inch of the rink and should know better. Their reaction times are superhuman. Damn idiot should have seen the hole and should have turned his head so his big fat nose wouldn't find itself in the glory hole.

[murd0c]

Enough of this BS that will honestly never end.

How about Higgins playing his first game tonight :D Sucks Tamby is sitting but it's going to be good having some more new blood in the line up.

[fliptuner]

So both Higgins and Raymond in tonight?

On a side note, Bieksa skating at practice, might be back next week.

[Hondaracer]

Lulz air Canada threats when multiple NHL teams generate 11 million in revenue for them
From private charters
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[AzNightmare]

I still say it's a good call by Air Canada...
maybe they are just bluffing... lol

They should definitely fix that part of the rink though...
Starting to get bad memories of what happened to the Georgian Luger.

[dbaz]

fuck Air Canada seriously they only care because this happened in the east. This hit is at least controversial its harder to judge in terms of was it completely the players fault or rink design. They didn't even raise a voice on the bertuzzi hit to say it was a good job by the league or w.e. They sure as hell havnt said anything when there was a dirty head shot in calgary this year that left a player on the ice with a broken nose and concussion. They need to stop being montreal canadien fans and run their company they are going to lose the charters for all canadian sports teams if they don't shut up.

[fliptuner]

Lulz air Canada threats when multiple NHL teams generate 11 million in revenue for them
From private charters
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From what I read, it's closer to 20M.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elliottefriedman/2011/03/report-of-air-canada-letter-to-nhl-is-intriguing.html

[sonick]

I'm sure WestJet will happily step in and take the team Charters.

[stuff99]

Don't rag on Air Canada when they finally have balls to call NHL on their hypocrisy. It's about time someone with clout said something.

[dbaz]

Sure thats great if they actually cared league wide but they only cared because it happened to the canadiens. Why not come out when Cooke ended Savards career or the Islanders game when Gillies snapped or the many other incidents in the last couple of years. My point is they are only raising a fuss because it happened in eastern canada. TSN interviewed nhl players from different teams and the greater percentage are saying that its an accident, that no legal charges should be laid and that the canadiens ownership are at as much of at fault themselves because of poor arena design. Pronger even told people that the arena is "odd" because of the design which is where Pacioretty got injured.

[Bouncing Bettys]

The league could have shown the public it can handle its own business and at least kept the public attack dogs and critics at bay. They now have politicians, sponsors, activists, etc up in arms and wanting to force changes upon the NHL.

They could have shown some consistency ie:
"If you cause a player to be injured, then you have to be responsible for the play that you're involved in, if there's any carelessness or recklessness in it." -Colin Campbell, on decision to suspend Alex Ovechkin.
They could have immediately announced an investigation into the safety of those turnbuckles and an intention to make them safer. I know the NHL shouldn't be so reactionary but they should have anticipated the negative publicity something like this always generates and attempted to minimize it.

As to the incident itself, you can't definitively prove intent and yet all the evidence would have been there to get a conviction in court - not that I am saying the law has any business here.

You have a 13 year NHL veteran who has played the majority of his career in the North East division so he knows damn well there is a partition in the Bell Centre. Sure the placement of this partition is different in every arena but that doesn't negate the fact that its presence is consistent throughout every arena in the league. He has also been playing long enough to know the results of a player colliding with that partition. I don't buy the claim that he wasn't aware the partition was there at all.

Then you have pretty convincing motive: the prior history and animosity of the 2 players involved, the blowout game which in sports often insights aggresive revenge-like behaviour in which Chara's team was the team being blown out. Often these acts of revenge or message sending are done in the dying moments of the game when its too late to make a game of it.

Lastly, saying Chara doesn't deserve a suspension because he isn't known for dirty play is bunk. Just because he has a history doesn't mean he is incapable of dirty play or a lapse in self restraint.


As to a solution: create a slope at the ends of the glass. At one time, to solve the problem of vehicles being shish-kabobed by the ends of highway guard rails, they began sloping the ends. This allowed vehicles to ride up and over (not much safer) rather than strike it head on. With this solution, you wouldn't be able to fix the problem of the partition between the two benches because it wouldn't be practical but it could be used where the two benches end.

[Durrann]

“I would say the Sharks are a little more mature,” Wellwood said when asked to compare his new team to his old one. “They're not so scared of losing and I think come playoff time this team is going to be better.


“I just feel like Vancouver still has some more lessons to learn and I'm glad I'm on San Jose because they've been through a lot of hard times together and I think they're more prepared. That's not to say Vancouver can't win. They've got a lot of talent and they could certainly figure it out. I'd like to see them win the Cup, but I think this team is more prepared.”

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Canucks+Game+Vancouver+Jose+have+different+look+to night/4418835/story.html#ixzz1GF5k4DZD

LOL someones a little BITTER...

i WAS a fan of wellwood , not anymore

[fliptuner]

The league could have shown the public it can handle its own business and at least kept the public attack dogs and critics at bay. ..........................

Lastly, saying Chara doesn't deserve a suspension because he isn't known for dirty play is bunk.

I negated the fact that you're a Leafs fan cause I agree with your post.

I thanked you cause I haven't heard anyone use the work "bunk" in at least 2 years. :fullofwin:

[iwantaskyline]

Don't rag on Air Canada when they finally have balls to call NHL on their hypocrisy. It's about time someone with clout said something.

You've all been trolled by Air Canada. No way will they pull their advertising with the NHL.

They got FREE MARKETING from this whole thing.

[Harvey Specter]

Exactly! It's absoulte BS to say he didn't know the partition was there and I've watched the video serevel times and I strongly believe he had intent to injury, both these guys had history which is why this wasn't just an "unfortunate hit". The NHL should have suspended him for a minimum of 2 games which for the most part would have silenced the critics but they've created a shit storm and if another player is seriously injured resulting from an dirty hit, it's big trouble for the league.

Bottom line it was an stupid move by the NHL not to hand out a suspension. Fans in general like a little violence but there's a fine line between a hard, clean hit and straight up dirty hits which go unpunished. Wake up Bettman, you don't want to go down the road the NHL went down in 90's when the game became so violent that fans started tuning out.

[Hondaracer]

You've all been trolled by Air Canada. No way will they pull their advertising with the NHL.

They got FREE MARKETING from this whole thing.

Exactly.. do you realize the exposure air canada gets from the ACC alone? they will -never- pull their name from that arena

As pratt pretty much just said on the radio, it's one thing for radio analysts and fans to get all up right regarding head shots and a game they support

but when Industries and Politicians [and yes, the people who made the decisions to release those statements via Air Canada are all basically politicians] it's disgusting because all it is is a bunch of scum bag government lackies seeing blood in the water on a hot button issue they can jump on, give their .02 cents and act like they give two shits.

[AzNightmare]

Not sure how these things are designed in the rink, but just a random suggestion??

Maybe make that one section of glass inserted in with glass "pegs",
kind of like how the goal posts are insert in the ice.
basically have the glass "peg" that's inside the board break off upon impact to absorb some damage...

Would that work?

I'm not sure if that area has the audience behind it or the players...

[Noir]

Not sure how these things are designed in the rink, but just a random suggestion??

Maybe make that one section of glass inserted in with glass "pegs",
kind of like how the goal posts are insert in the ice.
basically have the glass "peg" that's inside the board break off upon impact to absorb some damage...

Would that work?

I'm not sure if that area has the audience behind it or the players...

So what happens to the rinkside fans upon breakage and the whole glass panel is now loose? Partitions aren't only found in between the player benches like in MTL. They're also found at the end of them.

[Vansterdam]

lol police report? air canada pulling their advertising?

CMON SON getthefuckouttaherewiththatbullshit

[spoon.ek9]

LOL someones a little BITTER...

i WAS a fan of wellwood , not anymore

wellwood is so useless.. he was only ever good for our shootout where he was money. the only reason he played well in the playoffs last year is because he knew he was going to be looking for a job.

[scottsman]

anyone have feed for the game? my go to feeds don't seem to be working.

[DsZ24]

anyone have feed for the game? my go to feeds don't seem to be working.

http://www.justin.tv/allsorts_2

password is ehrhoff

or http://www.atdhenet.tv/35409/watch-vancouver-canucks-vs-san-jose-sharks

[lol]

"if you played hockey"

Yea becuase playing pickup games at 8 rinks is an NHL equivelent..
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I've never played a pickup game at 8 rinks. I have been playing ice for the last 9 years though. That comment was pretty immature for this thread.

I can't believe you actually think Chara didn't know where he was on the ice. He's fuckin 7 feet tall and he can see a lot of shit ahead of him. If you watched the video he had his head up the whole time. Also the thing he ran his face into is bright red.

I like Chara but I also like Bertuzzi. Sometimes ppl do stupid things.

[604778]

Game time!
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[orange7]

hope the new guy gets a hat trick for his first game as a nuck.

[scottsman]

^^^cheers

[DsZ24]

BURROWS IS A MONSTERRRRRRR

[604778]

Burrowss!!!
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[spoon.ek9]

M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-MONSTER GOAL!

[MG1]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/48740414-1.jpg

[lol]

that was textbook burrows/sedin(s)

[Greenstoner]

monster shit

[illicitstylz]

holy burrows with his stick waving even had niemi confused LOL

[LsquareD]

That was sickkkk
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[Vansterdam]

mooooooonsTER

[van19]

Yessss !
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[MG1]

Saturday = HNIC vs Flames. Can't wait. Green men will most likely be there to rub their crotches up against Iginla and company. LOL

[Greenstoner]

PP !!!!!!

[DsZ24]

SALO tips it in

[Greenstoner]

SALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spoon.ek9]

FUCK YEA! SALO! 2-0

[MG1]

SS strike

[604778]

Sallllooooooo!
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[Greenstoner]

2 goals lead is not enough, lets go canucks

lets make it 10-0 lol

[MG1]

SSSSSsssssss is awesome!

this is the most a backup has played with Luongo as main goalie and healthy

[murd0c]

SSSSSsssssss is awesome!

this is the most a backup has played with Luongo as main goalie and healthy

Corey is not a backup he's a #1 :woot2:

[Vansterdam]

i wanna see someone destroy wellwood lol

[MG1]

Corey is not a backup he's a #1 :woot2:

Too bad I can't thank you more than once, LOL.

[Ch28]

I hope the Canucks trade him to a team out East after we win the cup.

A young goalie of his caliber deserves to play on a team where he can excel as a starter.

[scottsman]

Why am I not surprised that Tegra hasn't come into this thread to say anything.

:troll:

[DsZ24]

Shit, we've got to wake up here

[spoon.ek9]

wtf.. 2-2

[pure.life]

there goes our lead =(

[lol]

ew fuk

[MG1]

WTF? I go have dinner, come back and it's 2-2?

jesus christ all mighty

[orange7]

wow.. just took a quick dump and the score is 2-2 now.

wtf

[MG1]

VTAK!!!!!!

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/raymond-mason_584.jpg

[DsZ24]

yah raymond

[Greenstoner]

raymond !!!! nice

[satek]

raymond!!

[604778]

Raymond,
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[Greenstoner]

that was a sweet empty net

[Greenstoner]

if monster score that one i would prob jizzed on my pant already

[Greenstoner]

ssssssssssssssssssssss

[murd0c]

Why am I not surprised that Tegra hasn't come into this thread to say anything.

:troll:

Go jets go :troll:
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[satek]

epic cory

[DsZ24]

Schnides is comming up huge for us so far

[Noir]

Holy fuck Cory. That was straight up robbery.

[spoon.ek9]

wtf another penalty

[spoon.ek9]

that has to be the lamest hand gesture by the crowd just now..

[pure.life]

ssssssss
he's a wall out there

[DsZ24]

awww so close tanev. that woulda been nice

[MG1]

HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!

[Mercy]

What's the score? In a hospital bed and Canucks.com doesnt say
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[MG1]

ssssssss
he's a wall out there

Too bad he ain't getting much help from the rest of the team tonight.

Damn, he saw that puck through a pretty good screen.


Garrett, eat your heart out.

[MG1]

What's the score? In a hospital bed and Canucks.com doesnt say
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3-2 canucks............ hot nurses?

[LsquareD]

What's the score? In a hospital bed and Canucks.com doesnt say
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3-2 nucks
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[murd0c]

What's the score? In a hospital bed and Canucks.com doesnt say
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Hopefully you are ok :(
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[dL]

Worst pp I've seen this year.

dL
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[Mercy]

Had my tonsils and anoids out. Doing fine. Recovery has alot of cute nurses. Icu doesn't lol.
Thanks for the scores :) glad to see our streaks picking up speed.
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[MG1]

Had my tonsils and anoids out. Doing fine. Recovery has alot of cute nurses. Icu doesn't lol.
Thanks for the scores :) glad to see our streaks picking up speed.
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Makes sense - need hot chicks to speed up recovery.

ICU full of old, fugly nurses, huh? If they're anything like the head of the nurse's union, I'd definitely insist on morphine.

[MG1]

WTF? Give Schneider some help, for fuck's sake.

[murd0c]

WTF? Give Schneider some help, for fuck's sake.

I'm giving him help with my positive fan power right now :fullofwin:

[MG1]

Where's the Beast tonight?



Ben Eager......... dipshit

[sonick]

Fuuuuu mANNY

[spoon.ek9]

damn! nice try manny

[ryugeeh]

Holy fuck crazy!
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[pure.life]

Schneider is hacking at the moment

[TypeRNammer]

damn! nice try manny

Good break away!

[b0unce. [?]]

fucking beast game by schneider

shitty game for ehrhoff tonight.

[kluk]

SCHNEIDER ON FIREE

[dL]

Wow so intense!!

dL
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[MG1]

Holy jessus mother of charlie sheen hookers in fucking heat!

[murd0c]

fucccccccccccccccccccccccck

[sonick]

WTF DEFENSE:!::!>!>!>>!>!>!? FUUUU

[ryugeeh]

Fuuuuuu
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[DsZ24]

WTF they just let him walk right in

[spoon.ek9]

what. the. fuck.

[dL]

FUCK.

dL
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[604778]

Ooooommyyy.
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[satek]

damm...tie...that was a crazy goal though

[kluk]

4 FUCKING DE CANT STOP ONE GUY GG

[MG1]

ooooh......... classy looking chick behind the Canuck bench - NICE!!!!!

[Noir]

Tanev you lazy fuck

[spoon.ek9]

YES. powerplay opportunity

[LsquareD]

Cmon boys. Let's get the lead back and win the fucking gaaaame
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[scottsman]

nice goal by mitchel but fuck

[jdmhaze]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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[Noir]

Seriously though, bigger blame goes to Rome. Bad penalty and just handed sharks momentum with a bow tie.

[murd0c]

W000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000T

[sil-300]

Wooooooo!!!
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[DsZ24]

DANIEL SCORES, FUCK YAH

[sonick]

booooooyaaaaaaaaamoooffoooooo

[TypeRNammer]

YEESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[604778]

Wooooo!!!!
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[spoon.ek9]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kluk]

GOALLLLL!!!!

[satek]

4-3!!!!!

[dL]

GOAL HORN!!

dL
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[LsquareD]

MMMmmmm hmMmmm!
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[MG1]

I don't want to hear that gay game show sound again tonight, god damn it!

[van19]

Intense shit !!
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[spoon.ek9]

but man... seriously now, WTF are tanev and rome doing on the ice TOGETHER with minutes left to play in a goal game? i cannot comprehend.

[MG1]

Looks like all games are going to be intense like this from now on..............

[DsZ24]

6 on 4, cmon we can do this

[Roach]

Bad penalty

[dL]

Monster WHY?

dL
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[spoon.ek9]

wtf???

[MG1]

WHAT????!!!!!???????!!!!??


That's BUNK!

[TheKingdom2000]

Didi mau!!!!
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[sonick]

FUUUUU

[murd0c]

MOTHER FUCKER

[DsZ24]

FUUUUUUUUUU

[604778]

Fuckk!!!
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[van19]

Omfg -__-
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[dL]

GFG.

dL
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[TypeRNammer]

NOOOOOOOO

[LsquareD]

....................
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[spoon.ek9]

fucking shit

[satek]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Roach]

Ouch

[kluk]

SHITTT

[spoon.ek9]

man, fuck that shit. salo what are you doing?? dude isn't going to score from the goal line.. no need to commit to him!!!!

[ryugeeh]

Ugh. Bad penalty
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[DanHibiki]

WHY DID HE HAVE TO TAKE SUCH A DUMB PENALTY
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[MG1]

Pull the goalie!!

[pure.life]

epic game.. both teams deserving the win
hope the nux come on top

[Ronin]

Crazy awesome game.

[DsZ24]

So intense. i've been standing up in front of the tv for the last 10 minutes

[MG1]

Momentum is on their side now.......... no home advantage here.


FUck, we need shark repellent

Monster needs to redeem himself

[Bonjour43MA]

wtf was Burrows doing... too greedy.

[ryugeeh]

WTF
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[sonick]

WTF is with all these penalties fuck

[LsquareD]

GG
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[dL]

WTF IS THIS SHIT?

dL
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[604778]

Omg kesler!
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[satek]

OMFG PP FOR SHARKS

[spoon.ek9]

gg

that's fucking horrible

[murd0c]

aint that a bitch

[MG1]

NOOOOOoooooooooo.....................


SH goal by Monster......... please, oh mighty hockey gods. We will sacrifice a virgin in your honour. Orange, you there?

[sonick]

lol some creepy dude in the crowd staring at Kesler in the penalty box, when Kesler glanced over he looked away

[DsZ24]

damn whistle happy refs tonight

[Vansterdam]

fuck burrows!! hope keslers penalty dosent screw us over

[TheKingdom2000]

Believe guys
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[Great68]

STOP TAKING SO MANY FUCKING PENALTIES!!!!!!:fuuuuu:

[van19]

Why the fuck is rome on the ice for an OT powerplay ?
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[Vansterdam]

man this game is intense!!

[kluk]

good kill boys!