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cliffhanger33
04-15-2012, 10:05 PM
Lacking the heart in this team, we need some more canadian blood on our team

Not really racist!
04-15-2012, 10:05 PM
Well this sucks.

It feels like the Canucks were built on the assumption of the "new NHL" where teams win with skating and skill. Seems like they tried to play hard, draw penalties, and make the other team pay on the powerplay.

BUT refs are calling less penalties, and we've all seen the penalties for headshots, cheapshots, and all around goonery. Goal scoring is down on par with the dead puck era, and team are playing more defensively. I guess the Canucks didn't have the players and couldn't adjust to this kind of play.

I think Luongo needs to get traded for anything, I'd even take a 2nd rounder. Same goes for Ballard, Raymond, and Malholtra. Re-sign Salo and Pahlsson to lower cap hits if possible. And although Booth plays hard, he has no finish - he produces as much as Hansen for a 4 million cap hit so I'd get rid of him too. That's 15 million in cap space. Try and sign Parise and a depth defenseman and the team looks good to go for another run.

not sure if srs.

kristianhay
04-15-2012, 10:05 PM
Also, anyone bitching about Kassian still, the guy plays 3 minutes a game Are you surprised he isn't doing anything? No.

Noir
04-15-2012, 10:06 PM
Booth has been awesome, throwing his body everywhere. Kesler on the other hand, is just failing everywhere. He made the ref look bad on that dive, that ref will remember that.

I agree on the Kesler bit, but only halfway on the Booth bit.


Booth has absolutely no puck sense whatsoever and his modus operandi is just one of "taking stabs in the dark" which is just, go to the net and hopefully something happens.

Booth also can't skate anything else but a straight line which he tries to make useful by just trying to skate as fast as he can. No shiftiness, no agility. When he's angled out, he's pretty much done. Its a turnover/change of possession.

But yes, I do give him credit for throwing a little weight around.

Also, anyone bitching about Kassian still, the guy plays 3 minutes a game Are you surprised he isn't doing anything? No.

Well the fact that he's playing 3 minutes a game is largely telling to how he is playing.

trancehead
04-15-2012, 10:06 PM
I don't give a fuck and I'm using the "Duncan Keith fucked us over" excuse until the cows come home.

You take the top player off any of the current playoffs teams and see if they don't lose three straight.

Flyers haven't had Pronger all season

if boston can win the cup without Savard..who was their #1 center
philly can go up 3-0 by blowouts without Pronger...#1 D

then your cows can be air lifted via f1 plane to your home

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:07 PM
Lacking the heart in this team, we need some more canadian blood on our team

I hate to admit it, but I found myself thinking during the Penguins-FLyers games..."I wish our team played with this heart."

And you don't even have to ask if I was cheering for the penguins or flyers.

:alone:

cliffhanger33
04-15-2012, 10:08 PM
I hate to admit it, but I found myself thinking during the Penguins-FLyers games..."I wish our team played with this heart."

And you don't even have to ask if I was cheering for the penguins or flyers.

:alone:

We need more players with the likes of Giroux, etc. Canadians have heart.

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:09 PM
if boston can win the cup without Savard..who was their #1 center
philly can go up 3-0 by blowouts without Pronger...#1 D

then your cows can be air lifted via f1 plane to your home

Then we are not deep enough.

Ronin
04-15-2012, 10:09 PM
;7888409']it'll be the mods job to stop us from rioting. :troll:

Not this time. I'm going down there to beat the fuck out of any rioters this time...to alleviate my rage.

SupraMan604
04-15-2012, 10:11 PM
Also, anyone bitching about Kassian still, the guy plays 3 minutes a game Are you surprised he isn't doing anything? No.

Then fukin play him and get him out there hitting and getting into fights why the fuk you sign him for the playoffs if you dont use him. At lease Cody played 12mins a game you trade him to play this guy 3mins???!! :rukidding:

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:12 PM
Also, anyone bitching about Kassian still, the guy plays 3 minutes a game Are you surprised he isn't doing anything? No.

uhhh Why do you think he only played 3minutes? Because he didn't do shit + game puck away!

I'm surprised he even played that much, the only time I noticed him out there was when he gave the puck away. Where's the energy and grittiness that this kid was supposed to bring? Where are the big hits and fights?

He played well in the first 3 games when he was traded here but declined after that. Then he became invisible since his injury.

rsx
04-15-2012, 10:13 PM
Still no replies on my Schroeder call up? If Kass and Weise are playing 3 mins. Schroeder can take one of their spots and slot in the PP at least he'll provide some speed and offensive creativity.

jeedee
04-15-2012, 10:13 PM
Then fukin play him and get him out there hitting and getting into fights why the fuk you sign him for the playoffs if you dont use him. At lease Cody played 12mins a game you trade him to play this guy 3mins???!! :rukidding:

The Canucks are coached by retard AV. What do you expect? He fucking PROMOTED Mason Raymond all year when he's played like shit :rukidding:

SkinnyPupp
04-15-2012, 10:13 PM
Has anyone compared the Burke/Nonis acquisitions on the team to Gillis' acquisitions?

I mean Burke and Nonis brought in the Sedins, Lu, Schneider, Burrows, Kesler...

How about MG? Marco Sturm? Mats Sundin? Keith Ballard? He did bring in Ehrhoff in a great trade, but he's gone, and Hamhuis was a good signing...

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:15 PM
People need to relax. Kassien is a 21 year-old kid. His talent will be displayed with time. You have to be patient with the kid and can't expect him to be all world right away. He will be a noticeable force maybe half way thru next year...maybe.

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:15 PM
Has anyone compared the Burke/Nonis acquisitions on the team to Gillis' acquisitions?

I mean Burke and Nonis brought in the Sedins, Lu, Schneider, Burrows, Kesler...

How about MG? Marco Sturm? Mats Sundin? Keith Ballard? He did bring in Ehrhoff in a great trade, but he's gone, and Hamhuis was a good signing...

Samuelsson was the best signing in 09/10. Got a 3rd line checker to notch in 30 goal scorer.

Mike Oxbig
04-15-2012, 10:15 PM
Lacking the heart in this team, we need some more canadian blood on our team

Don cherry's got a point.

SkinnyPupp
04-15-2012, 10:15 PM
Listening to Cory's post game interviews compared to the rest of the team.. man it will be such a bummer if they lose him this off season :(

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:16 PM
People need to relax. Kassien is a 21 year-old kid. His talent will be displayed with time. You have to be patient with the kid and can't expect him to be all world right away. He will be a noticeable force maybe half way thru next year...maybe.

I still believe he'll become a good player. Just not now.

Man, couldn't Gillis have traded Hodgson at the end of this season!?!?

Tapioca
04-15-2012, 10:16 PM
Samuelsson was the best signing in 09/10. Got a 3rd line checker to notch in 30 goal scorer.

Samuelsson would have been good on our PP.

He has 3 points in 2 games with Florida this playoff.

kristianhay
04-15-2012, 10:18 PM
uhhh Why do you think he only played 3minutes? Because he didn't do shit + game puck away!

I'm surprised he even played that much, the only time I noticed him out there was when he gave the puck away. Where's the energy and grittiness that this kid was supposed to bring? Where are the big hits and fights?

He played well in the first 3 games when he was traded here but declined after that. Then he became invisible since his injury.

I don't know why you guys are speaking to me like I'm some kind of idiot. I'm saying he is playing 3 minutes a game, so it's no wonder he's not fighting, hitting big, etc. I'm not saying he should be playing more.

SupraMan604
04-15-2012, 10:18 PM
It seems like everyone knows how to play the Canucks now....beat up on their top players and they cant do shit. Whats the worse Kesler/Lappy chirping at you. Wooo Im scared.

At least Torres last year had some big hits and fought. This year were even worse when it comes to tough guys. When the commentators and analysts state there is something wrong with no one sticking up for their teammates you gotta shake your head as that is a coaching/management problem.

Gh0stRider
04-15-2012, 10:18 PM
lol idiots calling into team1040

SupraMan604
04-15-2012, 10:19 PM
The Canucks are coached by retard AV. What do you expect? He fucking PROMOTED Mason Raymond all year when he's played like shit :rukidding:


I agree...AV needs to go...

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:19 PM
Bottom line.

41 shots on net for game 3.

Hot goalie. Sometimes playoff games go that way. They didn't do anything between whistles and stuck to the script. Came up short.

BMW M5
04-15-2012, 10:20 PM
where is Gino? Brashear?

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:20 PM
AV needs to go? Really people? Jack adams coach? wow give your head a shake.

rsx
04-15-2012, 10:21 PM
Bottom line.

41 shots on net for game 3.

Hot goalie. Sometimes playoff games go that way. They didn't do anything between whistles and stuck to the script. Came up short.

That's always AV's default answer how they played a good game. What a terrible stat. How many real scoring chances were there from those 41 shots?

I'd rather see hits. Hits create turn overs, emotion, and hesitation from D men.

Gh0stRider
04-15-2012, 10:22 PM
willie mitchell interview said kesler slipped on a banana peel behind the net

:lawl:

http://youtu.be/RZZ7RjJRRM0

Tapioca
04-15-2012, 10:23 PM
That's always AV's default answer how they played a good game. What a terrible stat. How many real scoring chances were there from those 41 shots?

I'd rather see hits. Hits create turn overs, emotion, and hesitation from D men.

Sure, they didn't have many shots on goal, but maybe give some credit to the Kings defense?

The team did what it had to do on the road. Road games on shitty ice are played conservatively. They were the victim of 1 poor play and it cost them the game.

Pooface55
04-15-2012, 10:24 PM
Bottom line.

41 shots on net for game 3.

Hot goalie. Sometimes playoff games go that way. They didn't do anything between whistles and stuck to the script. Came up short.

Come on man. Were you watching the same game? When you shoot it into the logo with no rebound, you make any goalie look like Roy.

Oleophobic
04-15-2012, 10:24 PM
LA should bring in a fat lady to sing the anthem next game...

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:24 PM
I don't know why you guys are speaking to me like I'm some kind of idiot. I'm saying he is playing 3 minutes a game, so it's no wonder he's not fighting, hitting big, etc. I'm not saying he should be playing more.

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying he isn't doing any of that because he is upset over his ice-time?

3min is approx. 6 shifts. That's plenty to make something happen.

kristianhay
04-15-2012, 10:26 PM
^

Huh? No, I'm saying he doesn't play much and is usually playing in his own zone. Not much of an opportunity to hit anyone or get into a scrap without shedding his shit and jumping someone.

GrapeDrink
04-15-2012, 10:26 PM
41 shots, but how many of them were quality scoring chances? I mean I don't disagree I think quick is hot, hell I honestly believe he will win the vezina, but he didn't need to showcase that talent tonight.

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:27 PM
Come on man. Were you watching the same game? When you shoot it into the logo with no rebound, you make any goalie look like Roy.

What do you suggest? Not like they sat back and didn't attack. They put 41 chances on net and there was a hot goaltender. They didn't get it done. 0-0 going into third we all know next goal wins, so the kings scored first.

FeistyBearH22a
04-15-2012, 10:29 PM
LOL at the guys calling for AV's head. Who do you think would do a better job? All the available coaches right now are out of a head coaching job for a reason.

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:29 PM
Canucks losing is making RS turn on eachother :(

RS Civil War

MR_BIGGS
04-15-2012, 10:29 PM
Who else is waiting for Troy from whiterock?

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Who else is waiting for Troy from whiterock?

I love Troy from white rock.

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Possibly the last game for the CWALL in a nucks sweater? :(

Pooface55
04-15-2012, 10:33 PM
Canucks losing is making RS turn on eachother :(

RS Civil War

I wouldn't say turning on eachother. Just that everyone here is passionate about the canucks and we want to see the team do well. Constructive criticism.

SupraMan604
04-15-2012, 10:34 PM
People need to relax. Kassien is a 21 year-old kid. His talent will be displayed with time. You have to be patient with the kid and can't expect him to be all world right away. He will be a noticeable force maybe half way thru next year...maybe.

Not disputing that but he has been useless for us since the trade. Getting someone with potential for later and losing someone that can help us now is a bad idea. Last time i remember we want to win the cup now not in a couple years.

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:34 PM
Alright...so who can we trade Schneider for in the offseason? Need a real game-breaker coming back.

Fappin
04-15-2012, 10:34 PM
Look on the bright side, lose now and we get a higher pick in the draft.
Also, I'll be able to focus on my finals after getting over the loss. :alone:

Tim Budong
04-15-2012, 10:35 PM
'll save my words from when everyone calms down. time to booze away

kristianhay
04-15-2012, 10:36 PM
Alright...so who can we trade Schneider for in the offseason? Need a real game-breaker coming back.

Schneider + our first for a higher pick + prospect? Something like that.

Mike Oxbig
04-15-2012, 10:36 PM
;7888500']Possibly the last game for the CWALL in a nucks sweater? :(

I dont know man... its a coin flip depending on who the devils or lightning want.
Our top line isnt getting any younger. I wouldnt mind luongo for parise's right RFA :troll:

nah
04-15-2012, 10:36 PM
LOL at the guys calling for AV's head. Who do you think would do a better job? All the available coaches right now are out of a head coaching job for a reason.

Craig MacTavish, coach of the Chicago Wolves (Canucks farm team).

Brought an underdog Oilers team to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

iwantaskyline
04-15-2012, 10:37 PM
Positives from this game? Cory Schneider. Thats it. 41 shots? Big fucking deal, they were all perimeter shots that were easy to save. I'm an optimistic person but I do not see the Canucks coming back from this.

If we do in fact get sweeped, I hope Gillis has the balls like Paul Holgrem to make some gutsy trades.

TRDood
04-15-2012, 10:41 PM
Ohhh man.

1. Boston ans Chicago must be laughing. Actually the rest of the league..
2. Cody was clutch when he was still here
3. With the current rosters and coaching staff, it will be another longggggg wait until the next time Canucks get deep into the playoffs.
4. I am now supporting the proposed conference A/B/C/D. This will show everyone in Vancouver that beating Calgary, Edmonton, Minni, Colorado means NOTHING.
5. I would be so sad when Schneider gets traded. Luongo wouldn't have made that 3v1 save tonight.

Sidenote: I really feel that the Canucks are like the San Antonio Spurs. Great regular season and foreign talent but never seem to click in the playoffs. But the Spurs won a couple of championships. :okay:

pastarocket
04-15-2012, 10:43 PM
Craig MacTavish, coach of the Chicago Wolves (Canucks farm team).

Brought an underdog Oilers team to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

+1. If Gillis decides that a coaching change is needed for this team, he should give serious thought on hiring MacTavish to be the next coach.

Not really racist!
04-15-2012, 10:43 PM
^^ Hodgson is like their Ginobli, and we traded him away

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 10:45 PM
whoever called in just now complaining about the captaincy comment needs to blow a bullet through his fucking brain.

iwantaskyline
04-15-2012, 10:45 PM
^^ Hodgson is like their Ginobli, and we traded him away

Everyone, screw off with the Hodgson shit. Kid asked for a trade. He was asked up front and dodged the question.

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:46 PM
;7888520']whoever called in just now complaining about the captaincy comment needs to blow a bullet through his fucking brain.

I didn't really hear what he said. Summarize?

1exotic
04-15-2012, 10:46 PM
;7888520']whoever called in just now complaining about the captaincy comment needs to blow a bullet through his fucking brain.

:troll:

RiceIntegraRS
04-15-2012, 10:47 PM
We played a good game i think. The Kings just got a lucky bounce and got the only goal of the game. Our PP did look better than b4, but still needs alot of work. Its anyones series, and i still believe the Canucks can pull this off, just because the Kings have not outplayed us outright this series.

Noir
04-15-2012, 10:47 PM
Gotta give respect where respect is due.

Quick was absolutely amazing and despite people praising the LA defense the last 3 games, he was absolutely the foundation of why their D is great.

Yes he didn't make any hail-mary saves tonight, but out of that 41 shots, how many of them were from multiple shots in the scrums and dust-ups in front of his net. Tracking the pack in all of those multiple pileups that occurred, and keeping square on not only the initial shot but the second and tertiary scoring chances as well was just absolute text-book magnificent goaltending.

Not really racist!
04-15-2012, 10:48 PM
Everyone, screw off with the Hodgson shit. Kid asked for a trade. He was asked up front and dodged the question.

Or his dad asked for a trade on his behalf because he wanted him closer to Toronto

TRDood
04-15-2012, 10:49 PM
We played a good game i think. The Kings just got a lucky bounce and got the only goal of the game. Our PP did look better than b4, but still needs alot of work. Its anyones series, and i still believe the Canucks can pull this off, just because the Kings have not outplayed us outright this series.

Did you not watch game 1 or game 2? :rukidding:

cliffhanger33
04-15-2012, 10:50 PM
I f'n miss our clutch last second goals, like last playoff series. We haven't been lucky at all this series

Noir
04-15-2012, 10:51 PM
Everyone, screw off with the Hodgson shit. Kid asked for a trade. He was asked up front and dodged the question.

He asked for a trade because the kid was being doghoused by AV well before he even made it as a Canuck regular.

I mean c'mon, it was so bad that this wasn't even just a behind the doors, lockerroom secret. The whole city could say clear as day AV dogging CoHo.

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Gotta give respect where respect is due.

Quick was absolutely amazing and despite people praising the LA defense the last 3 games, he was absolutely the foundation of why their D is great.

Yes he didn't make any hail-mary saves tonight, but out of that 41 shots, how many of them were from multiple shots in the scrums and dust-ups in front of his net. Tracking the pack in all of those multiple pileups that occurred, and keeping square on not only the initial shot but the second and tertiary scoring chances as well was just absolute text-book magnificent goaltending.

yep, quick is literally the only reason why the kings are even in the post season and why their team is where they are right now.

Durrann
04-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Record for a team leading 3-0 in a playoff series in the NHL, NBA, & MLB: 293-4

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 10:53 PM
BLAME THE ICE FOR BEING TURRABLE. YEAH POINT FINGERS AT EVERYTHING

RiceIntegraRS
04-15-2012, 10:55 PM
Did you not watch game 1 or game 2? :rukidding:

Ive watched both games and i truly believe the Kings did not dominate us in those 2 games. If i didnt believe i probably would of thrown in the towel like the rest of Vancouver but im not. The Kings are beatable and the Canucks have alot of room to improve. Anything can happen. You gotta win 4 games to win a series and they only won 3. Its far from over.

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 10:55 PM
Everyone, screw off with the Hodgson shit. Kid asked for a trade. He was asked up front and dodged the question.

I'm fine with that. What I don't get is why they couldn't wait til after the season to do it?

His dad just screwed him out of a chance at the cup this year.

spideyv2
04-15-2012, 10:58 PM
;7888400']game 4 massive rs canucks meet? support our boys in the potentially last game of the post season. :alone:

i'm down :alone:

pure.life
04-15-2012, 11:02 PM
"Comeback" - History Will Be Made - YouTube

spoon.ek9
04-15-2012, 11:03 PM
I know we all feel terrible but I cannot imagine how fans like MG1 feel. I'm just absolutely disappointed in the team on so many levels and for so many reasons. It's just..... I'm speechless.

TRDood
04-15-2012, 11:04 PM
MG1 on April 25, 2010 said "Don't laugh. We've been there many times."

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2224/capture20100425204419.jpg

It's coming back to haunt us.. As quickly as this Wednesday.

1exotic
04-15-2012, 11:05 PM
Trading Luongo and firing AV is no longer a joke or troll comment, its what has to happen.

RevYouUp
04-15-2012, 11:06 PM
Don't worry guys..Kassian will develop into a superstar in 5 years to help us win the cup!

:fuckthatshit:

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 11:06 PM
Trading Luongo and firing AV is no longer a joke or troll comment, its what has to happen.

please elaborate on how we'll move luongo. easier said than done.

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 11:08 PM
I didn't really hear what he said. Summarize?

he was basically bashing our past captains being too soft/weak/quiet. pointed out naslund being too soft and now henrik. some shit about no heart from our captains. i guess he forgot our 94 run and who led that team.

SupraMan604
04-15-2012, 11:10 PM
Dont play him he will get the message...if he stays you know its for the $$$$

1exotic
04-15-2012, 11:11 PM
;7888564']please elaborate on how we'll move luongo. easier said than done.

It doesn't matter how, he's pretty much useless.

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 11:15 PM
It doesn't matter how, he's pretty much useless.
:fuckthatshit:
try this forum, it's more suited for other arm chair gm's like yourself.

Canucks Community (http://forum.canucks.com/)

SkinnyPupp
04-15-2012, 11:27 PM
;7888564']please elaborate on how we'll move luongo. easier said than done.

I bet Lu would go to Tampa in a heartbeat. Probably Toronto too

Noir
04-15-2012, 11:27 PM
It doesn't matter how, he's pretty much useless.

He's not useless and I still rank him as one of the most sought after goalies league-wide. The problem really lies with Schneider; and how he's shocked everyone with how he's developed.

Whether or not you're happy with Luongo's current play, this wouldn't be a goaltending controversy in 80% of the league's clubs. It just is a controversy here because of what kind of goalie Schneider turned out to be; which I suspect a lot of people thought he would be good, but not THIS good.



Anyways, on a personal level, I really feel bad for Luongo; but on an objective level, it's clear as day that he doesn't have the same athleticism or agility that he possessed over 5 o 6 years ago whereas Schneider not only has his, but will be retaining it for a few more years.

However, I think in this environment, politics will win and the management will side with Luongo because anything other than that will reflect poorly on Mike Gillis' $64M managerial decision.

AzNightmare
04-15-2012, 11:27 PM
;7888567']he was basically bashing our past captains being too soft/weak/quiet. pointed out naslund being too soft and now henrik. some shit about no heart from our captains. i guess he forgot our 94 run and who led that team.

Well Henrik's no Linden, that's for sure.
I don't really mind Henrik all that much. It's Kesler who's been completely disappointing for me.
No clutch from this guy, and he's just been having a underachieving season altogether.

I like Schneider better than Luongo. But still, I think with all the issues that lie here with the Canucks,
I would still rather work on getting some players that have grit, can play with intensity,
and I'm not talking about just a "goon" player that just comes out for a shift to fight.

When your top players are getting pushed around like rag dolls in the playoffs, it's really not cutting it.
And I think this issue needs to be addressed, rather than the goaltending "issue".

DanHibiki
04-15-2012, 11:28 PM
I bet Lu would go to Tampa in a heartbeat. Probably Toronto too

Closer to his in-laws.

Who could we get from Tampa? Lecav?

nah
04-15-2012, 11:32 PM
One thing's for sure, I bet Pittsburgh would love to have Luongo instead of Fleury right now.

cliffhanger33
04-15-2012, 11:34 PM
Man if only we can push this series to a game 7 and win.....................

one can only dream

Noir
04-15-2012, 11:36 PM
Well Henrik's no Linden, that's for sure.
I don't really mind Henrik all that much. It's Kesler who's been completely disappointing for me.
No clutch from this guy, and he's just been having a underachieving season altogether.


Kesler worked out all of the previous years's off season; I remember where he was doing something crazy like 100 wristshots per day at home(and they were showcasing his little gizmo that automated feeding those pucks to him).

This year because of the injury, he had absolutely no conditioning going into this season.

Mike Oxbig
04-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Closer to his in-laws.

Who could we get from Tampa? Lecav?

Can we get st. louis? If not tampa has 2 1st round picks :)

b0unce. [?]
04-15-2012, 11:43 PM
sign stamkos for the league cap @ 12m for 1 year. do it.

kristianhay
04-15-2012, 11:48 PM
Closer to his in-laws.

Who could we get from Tampa? Lecav?

Or Schneids + a pick to Tampa for their 1st + Brett Connolly? Something like that.

VooDood
04-15-2012, 11:53 PM
wtf is this shit? lu didnt even play this game....and you're talking about trading him? god damn...... vancouver really hates their goalies....

Mike Oxbig
04-15-2012, 11:54 PM
Or Schneids + a pick to Tampa for their 1st + Brett Connolly? Something like that.

brett conolly:heckno:? i rather keep our goalie!

kristianhay
04-15-2012, 11:56 PM
^

Chances are we can't move Lu (nor do I really want to, don't know why it's being brought up), just being realistic at what we might fetch. I've played against Connolly quite a few times, he's going to be good.

invader
04-15-2012, 11:57 PM
Has there been a presidents trophy winner swept in the 1st round in NHL history?

spoon.ek9
04-16-2012, 12:03 AM
^ according to TSN, no. BUT the Canucks have this habit of being streak busters in the worst way so I don't even want to think about it.

Greenstoner
04-16-2012, 12:03 AM
Has there been a presidents trophy winner swept in the 1st round in NHL history?

Chicago (90-91), St Louis (1999-2000), Detroit (05-06), San Jose (08-09), and Washington (09-10); none were sweeps.

skyxx
04-16-2012, 12:03 AM
Washington, San Jose, Detroit, St Lous.

Edit: Damn, beat me to it.

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 12:08 AM
Can I sleep for 1 year and wake up for the playoffs?

AzNightmare
04-16-2012, 12:08 AM
wtf is this shit? lu didnt even play this game....and you're talking about trading him? god damn...... vancouver really hates their goalies....

lol, Schneider let in less goals. So by default... :troll:

Oleophobic
04-16-2012, 12:09 AM
I believe 5 presidents' trophy winners have lost in the first round before, though none lost in fewer than 6 games.

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 12:14 AM
Chicago (90-91), St Louis (1999-2000), Detroit (05-06), San Jose (08-09), and Washington (09-10); none were sweeps.

holy fuck, san jose and washington :heckno:

skyxx
04-16-2012, 12:15 AM
That's why it's better not to be on the president's trophy list. Bad omen. :troll:

dbaz
04-16-2012, 12:22 AM
all ill say is that trading schnieder is the last straw for me. if its done we might as well have milbury come in and help gillis some more because its obvious which goalie should be kept.

VooDood
04-16-2012, 12:24 AM
lol, Schneider let in less goals. So by default... :troll:

i guess the team and how they play in front also doesn't get put into the equation.

Greenstoner
04-16-2012, 12:26 AM
team1040 still pretty funny to listen right now

still taking caller lol

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 12:28 AM
all ill say is that trading schnieder is the last straw for me. if its done we might as well have milbury come in and help gillis some more because its obvious which goalie should be kept.

How do u trade Luongo who has a NTC and 10+ years left on his contract?

dbaz
04-16-2012, 12:29 AM
How do u trade Luongo who has a NTC and 10+ years left on his contract?
theres always takers. hell, gomez got traded.

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 12:31 AM
team1040 still pretty funny to listen right now

still taking caller lol

Connie dun dropped the ball

kristianhay
04-16-2012, 12:34 AM
The funniest callers are the ones Jeff Paterson just hangs up on and tells them to go to sleep because they're dumb as fuck.

kristianhay
04-16-2012, 12:37 AM
HAHAHA... "You need someone with big swinging balls and a big cock". Who says that kind of shit on the radio.

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 12:40 AM
Wtffff I missed it. Is this real life?

Greenstoner
04-16-2012, 12:42 AM
HAHAHA... "You need someone with big swinging balls and a big cock". Who says that kind of shit on the radio.

lol yeah, that guy was a fuckking tool haha

skyxx
04-16-2012, 12:47 AM
:fuckthatshit: Women.

TOS'd
04-16-2012, 12:47 AM
^ LOL

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 12:50 AM
who are you guys going to cheer for if Canucks are booted first round :(

Bonka
04-16-2012, 12:50 AM
Haha only thing I'm enjoying about the Canucks are the post game callers.

:alone:

HonestTea
04-16-2012, 12:51 AM
who are you guys going to cheer for if Canucks are booted first round

Let's hope that doesn't happen..but if Canucks get booted outta the first round than I'll be cheering for the OKC Thunder LOL :(

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 12:53 AM
Let's hope that doesn't happen..but if Canucks get booted outta the first round than I'll be cheering for the OKC Thunder LOL :(

wtb NHL-wise haha

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 12:54 AM
lol this gif cracked me up, only thing that made me laugh after tonight

http://i.imgur.com/qPExw.gif

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 01:02 AM
who are you guys going to cheer for if Canucks are booted first round :(

Any team that is facing the Kings, Hawks, and Bruins.

cow20xx
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
Any team that is facing the Kings, Hawks, and Bruins.

ditto

skyxx
04-16-2012, 01:10 AM
Any team that is facing the Kings, Hawks, and Bruins.

Hawks VS Bruins. Who you gonna vote for now? :troll:

SkinnyPupp
04-16-2012, 01:14 AM
Any team that is facing the Kings, Hawks, and Bruins.
Cheer for the team that beat the Canucks! If they can beat the Canucks they can beat anyone right? That's what happened the last 2 playoffs!

:alone:

SkinnyPupp
04-16-2012, 01:15 AM
So if Schneids started games 1 and 2, do they win those games 2-1 and 3-2 OT?

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 01:16 AM
Hawks VS Bruins. Who you gonna vote for now? :troll:

Ugh Hawks I guess since our hate with the Bruins is bigger right now.



I just threw up in my mouth.

trancehead
04-16-2012, 01:19 AM
boston, chi town, anaheim lol

SkinnyPupp
04-16-2012, 01:20 AM
Me I'll be cheering for the Flyers and the Kings if the Kings win this series

Bonka
04-16-2012, 01:24 AM
The Canucks have scored 12 goals in the last 10 playoff games. So unless someone out there thinks they can string continuous straight shutouts to enable Canuck victories...and even if they score, they can't pull away from teams with 2+ goal leads.

Wow. Just wow.

Go Flyers :troll:

Ronin
04-16-2012, 01:25 AM
Cheer for the team that beat the Canucks! If they can beat the Canucks they can beat anyone right? That's what happened the last 2 playoffs!

:alone:

It's actually happened a lot in the last decade or two with the Avs, Red Wings, Ducks, Hawks, Bruins and...I want to say Stars.

Also Calgary when they went to the Final but were robbed on the Martin Gelinas no goal.

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 01:26 AM
Im probz going to be cheering for flyers

SkinnyPupp
04-16-2012, 01:27 AM
So I found the 1040 post game show here (http://feeds.feedburner.com/TEAMRadio-VancouverCanucks). But it's only 1 hour.. so where can I hear the rest of the goofballs?

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 01:30 AM
Beauty by Bieksa :alone:

http://i.imgur.com/nTI9r.gif

Mike Oxbig
04-16-2012, 01:48 AM
^ dam u got some low standards when it comes to judging beauties. Brown saw it coming so he jump dodging i to have less impact on himself...

3/10 at best!

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 01:59 AM
^well bieksa did hit Brown again on his way to the ground :okay:

Noir
04-16-2012, 03:13 AM
So if Schneids started games 1 and 2, do they win those games 2-1 and 3-2 OT?

I think so.

Not saying Lu sucks but I think Schneider is the tighter goalie at the moment. The thing is, a lot of people are saying no goalie would've survived with the way the team played on games 1 and 2 but I think there's a possibility it might be different.

I know of some goalies who do like being peppered and feel they play better under continuous pressure rather sporadically within the game. I think Schneider is one such goalie and I think perhaps LA monoplizing majority of the game in 1 and 2 may have played well into Schneider's hands; but that's just conjecture.

Maybe Jonathan Quick is one too. When you pepper them with shots, they get into such a rythm that it benefits them in the event they need to make harder saves within the game. Could explain why he's performing like a wall despite having around 40 shots directed at him (and no, we shouldn't exaggerate, that they're all perimeter unchallenging shots). Canucks were causing a lot of pileups and scrums infront of his crease yet he's still managing to track the puck from initial scoring chance to secondary, tertiary or more.



I'd also bet to say that although Luongo was this type of goalie before; but at this point there's no denying that he isn't as agile and as athletic a goalie he once used to be and is nowadays relying on positioning (staying deeper in the net, or cheating deeper) and size to remain somewhat dominant.

Vansterdam
04-16-2012, 06:11 AM
its not our goalies that are causing us to lose

we cant score for shit

Vansterdam
04-16-2012, 06:15 AM
anyone know where i can stream the full pittsburg vs philly game from yesterday

7seven
04-16-2012, 06:55 AM
I've been rooting for the Flyers and Canucks since my Sabres didn't make the playoffs, but if the Canucks are out, I'll be hoping for a Flyers vs Predators final while rocking my Giroux jersey.

I think Gillis and the Canucks got too caught up on trying to emulate the big bad Bruins. Yes, size/toughness was one of the factors the Bruins beat the Canucks last season, but a bigger issue I think was the Canucks lack of scoring which has crept up again. Everyone loves just to blame Lu for the finals last year, but seems to forget our powerplay disappeared in that series and so did our scoring with injuries catching up to Kesler, Ehrhoff, Hamhuis and Burrows. Even with the Canucks being handled physically by the Bruins last playoffs, they still came so close within a game from the Cup.

All year I haven't been as confident in this years version of the Canucks as I was last year and the trade for Kassian still has me scratching my head, oh don't get me wrong, I'm loving that trade as a Sabres fan, but I wasn't expecting the Sabres to do much this year and thought Hodgson was in a position to help the Canucks more than Kassian this post season. Kassian still can turn out to be a good player, but having watched him closely with the Sabres, he was nowhere near ready and the Canucks already had a version of what Kassian is right now in Bitz. I agreed the Canucks needed more size and grit, but was shocked when Cody was traded for someone who likely wouldn't be ready to make an impact for 2-4 years at least.

The Canucks did play a lot better in game 3 but they got to get more quality scoring chances, too many shots from the perimeter and no finish for these guys right now. The D coverage has been atrocious, especially Edler, when did Brent Sopel take over Edler's body??? Doesn't matter if you have Lu or Schneider back there when they're getting no support in front of them, both goalies have played great, but if the Canucks can't pull off a miracle, Gillis has to move one of them for an asset that can help them out right away, not a project like Kass.

punkwax
04-16-2012, 06:57 AM
So much excitement for the playoffs gone.

lol @ everyone with their armchair GM theories. Blow up the team, get rid of Luongo and AV.. MG's track record being questioned... I wish people wouldn't get their theories from CDC and the morons calling 1040 then report back here. :facepalm:

Great68
04-16-2012, 07:13 AM
Hahaha my boss wore an Ottawa jersey to work today

Pooface55
04-16-2012, 07:31 AM
Beauty by Bieksa :alone:

http://i.imgur.com/nTI9r.gif

This is a beaty
[HD] PK Subban big hit on Brad Marchand - YouTube

Blah_Teggie
04-16-2012, 07:33 AM
The only Canucks that I would keep are Schnieds, Hansen, Sedins, Burrows, Hammer and Higgins. But unfortunately, those are probably the only players who are worth something right now. All the others can leave.

SkinnyPupp
04-16-2012, 07:38 AM
Here's another one - once the Burke/Nonis core is gone, do you trust MG to build a new core?

Hondaracer
04-16-2012, 07:42 AM
MG is a better GM than both of them IMO and that's looking at it with an objective pov IMO

Burke is nothing anymore and nonis neve was

411ken
04-16-2012, 07:49 AM
In Gillis We Trust..

He looked PISSED last night when Edler took that Delay of game penalty with 1.5 minutes to go lol..

Not really racist!
04-16-2012, 07:53 AM
Looks like we've all cooled down, guess I missed the team 1040 lulz

anybody got audio?

Pooface55
04-16-2012, 07:56 AM
Lots of grumpy people this morning.

7seven
04-16-2012, 08:10 AM
Lots of grumpy people this morning.

I'm not grumpy cause I'm in a playoff pool where pretty much all the other teams loaded up on Canucks except me, so unless a miracle happens, I think I got the pool locked down after round 1 haha.

Great68
04-16-2012, 08:47 AM
Looks like EA sports' prediction is on track to be horribly wrong this year.

Mr.HappySilp
04-16-2012, 08:54 AM
I'm not grumpy cause I'm in a playoff pool where pretty much all the other teams loaded up on Canucks except me, so unless a miracle happens, I think I got the pool locked down after round 1 haha.

Me too I only got 2 canucks on my team. I actually have more LA players.

cliffhanger33
04-16-2012, 08:59 AM
Team1040 is replaying some calls from last night

jeedee
04-16-2012, 09:00 AM
Now that most of us have calmed down, do you guys think this team is fatigued?

Not making any theories or excuses this time, but they just aren't the same team since the Boston game back in January. They've played A LOT of hockey within 2 years with only 2 months of summer to rest/train.

Maybe its "best" for the team to bow out early to get some rest for next year. But this offseason, MG will have to make some big decisions and might have to trade a core player(s) ala Philadelphia with Richards and Carter.

highfive
04-16-2012, 09:00 AM
I believe Canucks can win 4 straight.

The revenue share 1st round of the playoffs...Bettman would want us to play more games.


With this reason, I believe the NHL is going to rig it and we will play a game 7!!!

SkinnyPupp
04-16-2012, 09:06 AM
Now that most of us have calmed down, do you guys think this team is fatigued?

Not making any theories or excuses this time, but they just aren't the same team since the Boston game back in January. They've played A LOT of hockey within 2 years with only 2 months of summer to rest/train.

Maybe its "best" for the team to bow out early to get some rest for next year. But this offseason, MG will have to make some big decisions and might have to trade a core player(s) ala Philadelphia with Richards and Carter.
There needs to be some explanation, and for some I think this might be it. ESPECIALLY EDLER.

Others, maybe injuries (Kesler, Raymond)

Others, maybe they aren't as good as we think they are (Booth, Higgins)

Sedins... umm not sure what to say about them.

I am speaking of the entire last half of season btw, not just the last 3 games. Because to me, it's been the same all along. Well Edler never looked this bad I guess. But for the rest, this is nothing new.

Hondaracer
04-16-2012, 09:11 AM
Booth needs to pray more

fsy82
04-16-2012, 09:21 AM
Now that most of us have calmed down, do you guys think this team is fatigued?

Not making any theories or excuses this time, but they just aren't the same team since the Boston game back in January. They've played A LOT of hockey within 2 years with only 2 months of summer to rest/train.

Maybe its "best" for the team to bow out early to get some rest for next year. But this offseason, MG will have to make some big decisions and might have to trade a core player(s) ala Philadelphia with Richards and Carter.

I was thinking the same thing as well. They've played a lot of hockey over the past two years and haven't had a long stretch to recover and rest. You never want to use it as an excuse but clearly the team has been playing a step behind since January.

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 09:36 AM
who are you guys going to cheer for if Canucks are booted first round :(

I would cheer for Philadelphia in that situation. This team is fun to watch. -loads of offensive power. Giroux is playing in beast mode. The young guys like Simmonds and Couturier stepping up their game now.

The toughest team in the NHL playoffs right now with the balls to fight any team and light the opposition up with their offence.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Broad Street Bullies back in the Cup finals again.

kristianhay
04-16-2012, 09:58 AM
^

Firstly I'll be cheering for the Sens as they're the only other Canadian team. Gotta support our country! If they get knocked out, probably the Rangers/Flyers.

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 10:18 AM
-just a link that I found to try and help people get their minds and hearts away from the pain of watching this playoff series.

Miss USA 2011 Alyssa Campanella is a Canucks fan as per the pictures below. She is dating a Vancouver actor. A hot redhead that cheers for our team.
Alyssa's picture with the Sedins while she wears a Canucks jersey, and other pictures:

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Alyssa-Campanella-Canucks-fan.jpg
http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f970b0168e82b6a88970c-800wi
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i7e0arQO6z4/TgBLUSdNvjI/AAAAAAAAFCg/YU0e_Dn4l9Y/s1600/Alyssa_Campanella-5.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Alyssa_Campanella_2011.jpg/220px-Alyssa_Campanella_2011.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GxiAvEa1img/Tf7L5x_kELI/AAAAAAAAKp4/T_IGfGOQiy0/s1600/California%2B-%2BAlyssa%2BCampanella1.jpg

highfive
04-16-2012, 10:22 AM
There needs to be some explanation, and for some I think this might be it. ESPECIALLY EDLER.

Others, maybe injuries (Kesler, Raymond)

Others, maybe they aren't as good as we think they are (Booth, Higgins)

Sedins... umm not sure what to say about them.

I am speaking of the entire last half of season btw, not just the last 3 games. Because to me, it's been the same all along. Well Edler never looked this bad I guess. But for the rest, this is nothing new.

Edler + Bieksa needs some explaining to do.

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 10:28 AM
IMO, it seems the Canucks had their textbook break out handed to them... aside from that, I still didnt see the bread n butter of grinding hte boards and starting a cycle last night.

Overall, the entire team looks like they are scared of the puck. Being careful is one thing, being a bit slow is another, and that showed throughout the entire series.

Dont even get started on Alex Edler, that guy hasn't looked THIS BAD since his career started. I'd rather take the Edler with the broken fingers in last years Final versus the Edler now.

Kevin Bieksa...will be Kevin Bieksa, he will give u a stinker here and there. Wrong time to have one IMO.

MG's moves this year did change the mindset of the team going forward. Idiots calling in saying Booth was a horrible trade can suck it. Sure, the guy is just getting the taste of the playoffs, but who knows how long Samuelsson will be in the AV dog house this year. He's set to become UFA anyways and we got a bright young forward who we all seen drive hard to the net. Although right now, Samuelsson would probably look really good in a Canucks uniform right now.

The CoHo trade has too many grey areas that the public will never have the truth to. The fact that teams were not made aware of CoHo being available at the deadline irritates me a bit. He would look good in our 0% PP. or at least give us a bit more of a fighting chance

Zack Kassian, a few misplays and bad positioning had him see the bench for the rest of the game. The entire organization knows the kid can step it up a notch when needed. NOW IS THE TIIME.

I have said many times in which why the kings woudl be a bad matchup. Richards/Carter/Brown has the BIG GAME gear to turn to when needed. Their defence isn't letting Quick hang to dry. Canucks did manage 41 shots, but all coming from spots in which the Kings played D so positionally well that Quick saw everything. Willie Mitchell has looked amazing in the 3 games.

I want the miracle to happen. Vancouver 2012, 5th team to come back.
With all that said, JUST GO OUT THERE AND PLAY YOUR FUCKING HEARTS OUT. IM SURE THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID, ANALYZED, BROKEN DOWN AND RIPPED APART TO SHREDS BY ARMCHAIR GMS, COACHES AND MEDIA.

Go out there and GIVE IT TO THE FUCKING KINGS.

MR_BIGGS
04-16-2012, 10:35 AM
Agree or disagree with this statement:

Suspend to the injury? It's wrong. It's "eye for an eye" justice and that never brings about the desired result. Actions are either suspendable or they aren't ... but whether or not the recipient of the action is injured should not enter into it. Because if the extent of the injury is considered, then suspend players who deliver the injurious blow until the player they harm is ready to come back to the game ... and use an independent doctor to make the determination of suitability.

GrapeDrink
04-16-2012, 10:36 AM
for what its worth, on the sharks blog, they have been posting league wide fenwick statistics, its like the underlying statistics most of us don't even think about, I'm not going to pretend I understand it at all lol so if anyone wants to check it out feel free to do so, I beleive those stats have been posted at nucks misconduct as well. But the main point I wanted to get through was according to those statistics the kings were a top team in the NHL and matched up extremely well during the regular season against the nucks, if you scroll down a bit they did an analysis of how the top west teams matched up against each other 2012 NHL Playoffs: How the Sharks Performed Against the Western Conference Elite - Fear The Fin (http://www.fearthefin.com/2012/4/10/2936217/how-the-sharks-performed-against-the-western-conference-elite)

TheKingdom2000
04-16-2012, 10:37 AM
Just because I didn't get a chance to post it last night...
FUCK.

I went to school today and I was hearing it from everyone. They weren't rubbing it in or anything, they were just confused how a 1st place team could lose to an 8th place team and why the Canucks aren't winning, etc.. And I was too tired to explain anything today, so I just went along with anything they said.

This shit is so frustrating, but I saw it coming. I just hope we don't get sweeped.

Mike Oxbig
04-16-2012, 10:37 AM
All you guys are lying to yourself, just accept it kings are a better team with good coach pressing all the right buttons. They are way too stacked up front with a hot goaltender. Kopitar Williams Brown Richards Carter Penner... not even sure how they fit all those with doughty and quick on the back.

What this team needs is a new coach and a motivator with a heart and soul guy, obivously players on our team dont give enough spark to each other even when daniel got concussed and hank being hit like that. Who does that to our star players and have no answer for? At this moment im still questioning ryan keslers health... is he inconsistant or was he a just a flukey overrated player? Dont ask me to refer to last years nashville series. weber and sutter were too busy shutting the sedins down allowing kesler to weave through their secondary defence with his speed!

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 10:40 AM
David "Tiger" Williams' thoughts on why the Nucks are hated. Good read.

Canucks have to earn respect back from fans


As those 4,000 career penalty minutes attest, Dave (Tiger) Williams knows the subtle nuances of villainy in the way, say, a Lord Voldemort would.
During a flamboyant career of stick-riding, mitts-chucking and ensuing chaos, Tiger was as far removed from the deep-dish-dimpled, cleft-chinned leading man as you could unearth. Let the pretty boys get the girl. He’d get the five, the 10 and, on many occasions, the extra two, as well.
And he undoubtedly revelled in the role.
Sunday lunchtime and Tiger, now 58 but still wonderfully politically incorrect, is tugging on a skate and stripping tape across a set of shin pads ahead of the final of the Scotiabank Pro-Am, in aid of the Gordie and Colleen Howe Fund for Alzheimer’s.
He’s still, in his words, a “big-time” booster of his old team, the Vancouver Canucks.
But the onetime West Coast icon isn’t immune to the well-publicized dislike across Canada for the Canucks since they reached the Stanley Cup final a year ago, becoming this country’s best chance at championship glory since 1993.
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Success, envy, arrogance (perceived or otherwise), outside anarchy and failure at the decisive moment, all dropped into a confusing grab-bag of factors.
The reasons for the intense reaction, he reckons, are many.
“Unfortunately, that riot killed off any Canucks fans living east of Field, B.C.,” Williams says with characteristic candour.
“I’ve got guys in Swift Current who always cheer for Canadian teams telling me ‘I can’t . . . just ‘cause of the riot.’
“I think it’s that way across this whole country. And I think it’s gonna take that organization — even though it’s not the organization’s fault or the players’ — four or five years to get past that.
“Time is always a great healer.’
Rather than being embraced by Canada, the Canucks have been largely held at arm’s length. The L.A. Kings even posted what has now become a famous tweet on their official account following a Game 1 victory in their opening-round series: “To everyone in Canada outside of B.C., you’re welcome.”
“When you’re in first place, win the league two years in a row, not everybody’s going to like you,’’ reminds Tiger. “You’re in last place, nobody cares because you’re not bothering anybody.
“There’s always been a dislike for top teams.
“There was a time, I’d run into people and they’d tell me: ‘I hate Gretzky.’ Why? ‘Because he wins everything.’ ‘Well,’ I’d say, ‘no (bleep)ing kidding. And by the way, ‘Isn’t that the point?!’
“But that’s the stupidity out there.’’
Not that he’s letting the Canucks off the hook. Far from it. He points to a pair of incidents during last spring’s seven-game Cup final loss to the Bruins as crucial evidence for the prosecution.
“I can’t remember who it was (Brad Marchand) that completely manhandled (Daniel) Sedin. But the guy just basically punched him five or six times in the head. And everybody else stood around. Nothing was done about it. Not at the time, not later.
“And then going into Boston (for Game 6), to get run out of the building, physically and mentally, like that . . .
“For us Saskatchewan guys and Alberta guys. . . stand up, be counted. If you take your lumps, you take your lumps. But to not be physical enough in situations where you were forced into taking on that challenge is unacceptable.
“Boston played unbelievable. Their goaltending was unbelievable. But they won the Stanley Cup because they had way more heart than (the Canucks) did. That bugs me.
“Think about getting to the sixth or seventh game of a Stanley Cup final, to have that once-in-a-lifetime chance. And you’re not willing to die to win? To me, that’s sad. They lost the average Canadian’s respect.
“It’s up to that organization and those players to gain all that back from us. That’s my read on it.’’
As the current edition of the Vancouver Canucks, widely unloved and now suddenly unfancied, is now trailing 3-0 in the series, Tiger sees in the pervading gloom a chance to begin the redemptive process.
“People look at me as if I’m a two-headed cow, but to me it’s a bit of karma, for what happened after the seventh game in Vancouver last year. The Hockey Gods making them pay. If they don’t know that the Jedi with the sword is not in their favour, well, they’re going to have to cut the head off the monster and take that sword back.
“If they could somehow win this now, come back and beat L.A. after losing two games at home — and, gawd, I hope they do — it’d go a long way in mending a lot of those issues.
“It’s so hard to get respect. But it doesn’t take much to lose it.
“And once you’ve lost it, as hard as it was getting it in the first place, it’s twice as hard getting it back.”

Vancouver Canucks have to earn respect back from fans in NHL playoffs | Sports | National Post (http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/16/canucks-have-to-earn-respect-back-from-fans/)

Oleophobic
04-16-2012, 10:50 AM
The team totally played better in front of Schneider. So much better they didn't even score a goal :troll:

On a serious note, stick with schneider and if we keep playing like this, I honestly think we have a chance of making a comeback. It's not like we're getting outclassed or anything.

TPMarko
04-16-2012, 11:07 AM
Dont ask me to refer to last years nashville series. weber and sutter were too busy shutting the sedins down allowing kesler to weave through their secondary defence with his speed!

in kesler's defence i think they did move weber/suter to kesler's line mid-series. i miss having samuelsson/ehrhoff on the point for our pp. edler/salo just looks lost out there.

Bonka
04-16-2012, 11:11 AM
A lot of the moves MG made to correct the issues of last year is blowing up in his face. Could use Samuelsson's goals right about now and Torres, boy do I miss his play. I'm still a wait and see on Kassian but wished the trade occurred after the season ended. They are starved for goals and I can't believe the amount of no-shows right now. I like Booth and his play but a lot of what he does on the ice reminds me of Raymond.

InvisibleSoul
04-16-2012, 11:24 AM
Record for a team leading 3-0 in a playoff series in the NHL, NBA, and MLB: 293-4
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z377/aggie2210/dumbtheresachance.gif

JD¹³
04-16-2012, 11:30 AM
Canucks are done, they don't have the heart to come back. They've got the talent but they're not using it, at all.

Go Sens.

http://logoinspirations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Ottawa-Senators.jpg

My angus is peppered for all the fails from the delusional.

RiceIntegraRS
04-16-2012, 11:31 AM
We can come on here and complain, argue an debate all day long about the Canucks. But in the end what we say isnt gonna make a difference and for me i find it mentally exhausting. So im just gonna sit back, relax and cheer the Canucks on to Victory cause in the end thats all i can really do. Oh to change it up ive given up alcohol in hopes thatll change the Canucks fortunes

spoon.ek9
04-16-2012, 11:36 AM
speaking of samuelsson, he assisted on the Panther's PPG last night which was like 28 seconds into the 1st period.

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 11:41 AM
speaking of samuelsson, he assisted on the Panther's PPG last night which was like 28 seconds into the 1st period.

hes got 3pts in that series
whatever...

People dont understand the seeding sometimes
its like..oh PHX will kill chicago because they are the 3rd seed. NO. it doesn work like that

Canucks are no1 in the league and hte Kings are 8th, but who says the 8th place team can't play like a winner

this is sports, stats are a measure of "success' the ON ICE EFFORT IS SUCCESS

InvisibleSoul
04-16-2012, 11:42 AM
We can come on here and complain, argue an debate all day long about the Canucks. But in the end what we say isnt gonna make a difference and for me i find it mentally exhausting. So im just gonna sit back, relax and cheer the Canucks on to Victory cause in the end thats all i can really do. Oh to change it up ive given up alcohol in hopes thatll change the Canucks fortunes
Yeah, I'm with you, especially given the fact that the next game isn't until Wednesday, and even if the Canucks manage to extend the series, there's another three day break before game 5. Way too much time to be worrying about stuff that ultimately there's nothing we can do about trying to play armchair GM or coach.

I've accepted the fact that this playoff run was not meant to be. I also know a miracle can still happen, but I'm not putting any money on this happening.

spoon.ek9
04-16-2012, 11:48 AM
hes got 3pts in that series
whatever...

People dont understand the seeding sometimes
its like..oh PHX will kill chicago because they are the 3rd seed. NO. it doesn work like that

Canucks are no1 in the league and hte Kings are 8th, but who says the 8th place team can't play like a winner

this is sports, stats are a measure of "success' the ON ICE EFFORT IS SUCCESS

once the playoffs come around, all bets are off. people don't understand that either. just like how some people predicted a sweep by the canucks based on absolutely nothing.

Tegra_Devil
04-16-2012, 11:50 AM
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z377/aggie2210/dumbtheresachance.gif

:lawl:

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 11:52 AM
once the playoffs come around, all bets are off. people don't understand that either. just like how some people predicted a sweep by the canucks based on absolutely nothing.

Only retards predicted us sweeping the Kings. Probably the same people who blame Lu for every goal against

jeedee
04-16-2012, 11:57 AM
At this moment im still questioning ryan keslers health... is he inconsistant or was he a just a flukey overrated player? Dont ask me to refer to last years nashville series. weber and sutter were too busy shutting the sedins down allowing kesler to weave through their secondary defence with his speed!

Uh no. The Sedins were completely invisible in the Nashville series. Trotz sent out Weber and Suter just to shut down Kesler's line, not the Sedin's.

jeedee
04-16-2012, 12:09 PM
Fuck, I still don't get why that retard coach Veenyo only let's Kassian play 5 fucking minutes a night

How the fuck is he going to develop into the powerforward he's projected to be if he's playing 4 fucking minutes every game? I get that he turned the puck over last game, but he's only played 5 minutes in previous games

We traded Hodgson for him. Its time to fucking use him. He showed well
offensively in his limited ice-time in these playoffs. He has been impossible to get off the puck, protects the puck well, a great skater for his size, got the puck to the net and created a huge screen on 1 of our 4 goals.

Having him on the 4th line playing 5 minutes a night isn't going to help his development

/endrant

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 12:16 PM
Fuck, I still don't get why that retard coach Veenyo only let's Kassian play 5 fucking minutes a night

How the fuck is he going to develop into the powerforward he's projected to be if he's playing 4 fucking minutes every game? I get that he turned the puck over last game, but he's only played 5 minutes in previous games

We traded Hodgson for him. Its time to fucking use him. He showed well
offensively in his limited ice-time in these playoffs. He has been impossible to get off the puck, protects the puck well, a great skater for his size, got the puck to the net and created a huge screen on 1 of our 4 goals.

Having him on the 4th line playing 5 minutes a night isn't going to help his development

/endrant

last season
take your Kassian, replace with Hodgson

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 12:20 PM
Fuck, I still don't get why that retard coach Veenyo only let's Kassian play 5 fucking minutes a night

How the fuck is he going to develop into the powerforward he's projected to be if he's playing 4 fucking minutes every game? I get that he turned the puck over last game, but he's only played 5 minutes in previous games

We traded Hodgson for him. Its time to fucking use him. He showed well
offensively in his limited ice-time in these playoffs. He has been impossible to get off the puck, protects the puck well, a great skater for his size, got the puck to the net and created a huge screen on 1 of our 4 goals.

Having him on the 4th line playing 5 minutes a night isn't going to help his development

/endrant

AV tends to show a lack of confidence with our rookies, with Tanev being an exception. I don't see why AV doesn't throw Kassian in front of the net on the PP. We all can see Kassian is hard to knock off the puck, and on top of that, his cycle game isn't bad. In fact, I'd say Kassian is a better set up guy than Booth.

I really think this is AV's last season here, even if we manage to make it out of this series. His favouritism games and mismanagement of rookies is fucking aggravating. I don't see why he couldn't have at least tried slotting Coho on Kes' wing for a few games. AV's ego, smfh.

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 12:20 PM
@VanCanucks: Daniel Sedin will join #Canucks for full team practice in LA on Tuesday. Coach Vigneault to comment shortly.

hmmm

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 12:22 PM
Finally, some good news! -latest @VanCanucks tweet about Daniel joining team for a full practice on Tuesday.

AV will comment shortly. I really, really hope that Daniel can play game 4.

Vancouver Canucks ‏ @VanCanucks


Daniel Sedin will join #Canucks for full team practice in LA on Tuesday. Coach Vigneault to comment shortly.

kristianhay
04-16-2012, 12:24 PM
Our last hope, Daniel Sedin.

JD¹³
04-16-2012, 12:30 PM
Fuck, I still don't get why that retard coach Veenyo only let's Kassian play 5 fucking minutes a night

How the fuck is he going to develop into the powerforward he's projected to be if he's playing 4 fucking minutes every game? I get that he turned the puck over last game, but he's only played 5 minutes in previous games

We traded Hodgson for him. Its time to fucking use him. He showed well
offensively in his limited ice-time in these playoffs. He has been impossible to get off the puck, protects the puck well, a great skater for his size, got the puck to the net and created a huge screen on 1 of our 4 goals.

Having him on the 4th line playing 5 minutes a night isn't going to help his development

/endrant
He should be on the top line with Sedin protecting him while Daniel's out. He's a physical presence to counter Brown who's being matched against Henrik, has good enough hands to keep up with Sedin and Burr, and can forecheck aggressively so they can keep the puck in the offensive zone. But that's just my armchair GM talking.

AzNightmare
04-16-2012, 12:33 PM
Bet you Daniel's not 100%, but gotta do what you gotta do...

Brown's going to knock him over too, and then Canucks are going to stand around and watch.

UFO
04-16-2012, 12:36 PM
The post game comments last night from the players were disappointing. Sure we all know that LA has been playing better than expected, and the Canucks have not for whatever series of reasons.

Hearing our boys give LA props at this point, down 3-0, accomplishes nothing. If you get kicked out, fine, give them all the props and shoulder blame on yourself. What I heard from Vancouver players was "We did the best we could and things just didn't work out". What I heard from LA players was "We can still play better". The boys to me just feel too non-chalant about this whole thing, too business like, accepting the fact that at the end of the night there is always one team that loses and it really wasn't under their control.

Although Lappy had success playing with Hank, I'm skeptical his production can last. I personally would rather see Booth up on the 1st line with Hank feeding him and Burrows. Booth creates space with his speed and has a physical edge as well. As well as Amex was working earlier in the season, right now any chances they are getting are off the individual rush and Kesler and Booth are almost taking ice away from each other with the way they are playing.

jeedee
04-16-2012, 12:37 PM
He should be on the top line with Sedin protecting him while Daniel's out. He's a physical presence to counter Brown who's being matched against Henrik, has good enough hands to keep up with Sedin and Burr, and can forecheck aggressively so they can keep the puck in the offensive zone. But that's just my armchair GM talking.

Pretty much bang on. Unfortunately, AV's retard ass doesn't see this. He just see's Mason FUCKING Raymond as Crosby. :facepalm:

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 12:41 PM
Pretty much bang on. Unfortunately, AV's retard ass doesn't see this. He just see's Mason FUCKING Raymond as Crosby. :facepalm:

+1. Come on AV, show some guts and put Kassian on the top line. The big guy has good enough hands and the size to play a cycle game with Henrik. Do it!!!

-cannot believe May Ray is still on this team.

see.lai
04-16-2012, 12:44 PM
lol mason raymond sees a bullseye target on the chest :p

spoon.ek9
04-16-2012, 12:44 PM
I guess at this point there's no guarantee of playing Daniel and I sure as shit don't want him risking another concussion if he isn't 100%.

Should Daniel not play, I want to see these lines for game 4:

1st Line: Lapierre-Sedin-Burrows
(they produced numbers at the end of the season together, why hasn't AV gone back to this line?)

2nd Line: Booth-Kesler-Kassian
(might as well play him or go back to Raymond)

3rd Line: Higgins-Pahlsson-Hansen
(successful checking line, able to score)

4th Line: Weise-Malhotra-Raymond/Kassian
(Raymond would be purely for back checking in this role)

AzNightmare
04-16-2012, 12:44 PM
He should be on the top line with Sedin protecting him while Daniel's out. He's a physical presence to counter Brown who's being matched against Henrik, has good enough hands to keep up with Sedin and Burr, and can forecheck aggressively so they can keep the puck in the offensive zone. But that's just my armchair GM talking.

And I thought that WAS the reason why Kassian was brought on this team.
So far, he's been just an invisible 4th liner that hasn't thrown any hits.

I wonder should MG take over as coach... :pokerface:

highfive
04-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Daniel is going to LA.

He's going to do the Toews speech and rally the guys!

Seeing how Raymond skates turn and fall down...I sometimes wonder if his son's name is Max Alain Vineault Raymond.

spoon.ek9
04-16-2012, 12:52 PM
You guys bring up a good point. I wouldn't mind seeing Kassian on the 1st line with Henrik. The few times the Kings have been in trouble is when the Canucks get their cycling game going.

sonick
04-16-2012, 12:58 PM
I lol'd:

@DownGoesBrown Senators fined $10,000 for interrupting a Ranger player's pre-game interview. Should have just slammed his face into the glass four times.

https://twitter.com/#!/DownGoesBrown/status/191972233911074816

:lawl:

Hondaracer
04-16-2012, 01:15 PM
Kassian was not brought in to be a coho replacement..

MG was simply managing assets with a player who knew he would never get the role he wanted here.

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 01:24 PM
Kassian was not brought in to be a coho replacement..

MG was simply managing assets with a player who knew he would never get the role he wanted here.

Gillis had good intentions in terms of the Hodgson trade. It is just horrible timing. He traded away an offensively gifted centre, for a checking line centre, a young winger with power forward potential, and a offensive minded D man.

He made this trade at a time when the Canucks top 2 centres in Henrik and Kesler were in an offensive slump. Kesler hasn't scored a bloody goal in FIFTEEN games. Booth played better in game 3, but no points in this series. Henrik hasn't been the same without his brother.

Yeah, maybe AV wanted to go old school with a two scoring line and one checking line system. Gillis wanted to address a legitimate need of more size and toughness in our forwards.

The problem with the two scoring lines, and one checking line system is that if your two scoring lines don't produce points, then who provides the scoring and offense for the team???

What is your third option for scoring in the playoffs? Pahllson did score one goal in game 2 but you cannot expect consistent offense from a checking centre. The offense isn't coming from our defenceman now.

Gillis fucked up the team's offensive scheme by subtracting the offense to add toughness and size. He has shown bad judgement in thinking that our top 6 forwards can provide enough scoring depth to overcome the loss of Hodgson.

If Hodgson doesn't want to play for team and if it's true that he had meetings with the coach to ask for more ice time, or understand what is his role on the team, I think Gillis could have handled that situation in a smarter way.

Gillis can talk to CoHo and tell him to play for the team until the end of the playoff run this season, and try to work out on deal in the offseason. Gillis can tell CoHo 'Hey kid, you have a job for the Canucks. You have a role on this team. Honour your contract and play for your team mates. If you and your agent don't like playing here, fine, a deal can be pursued in the offseason. Right now, we need you on this team. You play an important role as the third line centre. Do not doubt your importance."

As for CoHo, I would tell him to suck it up, to quit complaining about ice time or questioning the coach and do his job. You don't make the trade until the right timing just because a disgrunted player doesn't want to play for this team.

MG could have handled this Hodgson situation in a smarter, more tactful way.

Pahlsson provides none of the offence that this team needs now. Kassian is at least one year away from developing to his potential as a power forward. Gillis took a high risk, in making this deal at the trade deadline. Dumb move.

shawnly1000
04-16-2012, 01:35 PM
From their Twitter handle

"Vigneault has not decided who will start in net for the #Canucks on Wednesday."

"He's our leading scorer..." Vigneault's response to what it would mean if Daniel Sedin plays in Game 4.

franklucas
04-16-2012, 01:45 PM
we definitley have alot of issues, and need heart, and daniel lol

kwy
04-16-2012, 01:48 PM
They're rushing Daniel's return. Watch him get reinjured before he's even fully recovered. There will be a bullseye on the back of his head.

PepperThyAngus
04-16-2012, 01:50 PM
I believe Canucks can win 4 straight.

The revenue share 1st round of the playoffs...Bettman would want us to play more games.


With this reason, I believe the NHL is going to rig it and we will play a game 7!!!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/129/577/How+About+No.jpg?1307079577

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 01:55 PM
Jim Hughson is on the air now with Team1040 at the ESPN media centre in LA.

Jim is saying that it is "confidence problems" that is affecting Edler's play this series. He says that confidence is an underrated quality in an NHL player.

He is spot on.

Edler just looks like he's lacking belief in himself right now.

Tegra_Devil
04-16-2012, 02:04 PM
if daniel plays.....he is gonna get knocked out into retirement.

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 02:14 PM
LOL. -wonder if Canucks management might consider a "good luck charm" in Miss USA Alyssa Campanella. Gillis should send a pair of tickets to her and her boyfriend to watch a game. ;)

The team is 2-0 when she watches the game in person.

Woo hoo! A hot redhead that is a Canucks fan. Joey Kenworth's face is flushed in this clip, haha.

Canucks Fan Miss USA 2011 Alyssa Campanella 2012.2.24 - YouTube

Greenstoner
04-16-2012, 02:17 PM
AV risking D Sedin to save his career ??

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 02:17 PM
Don't play Daniel. I want a 100% Sedin next season.

JD¹³
04-16-2012, 02:18 PM
Canucks need to realize they're about to get swept by this guy and get their rage on, Flyers style.

http://chzjustcapshunz.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/funny-captions-i-can-count-to-potato.jpg

RiceIntegraRS
04-16-2012, 02:20 PM
I want daniel to play. He can take the whole regular season off next year if he wants, cause regular season dont mean shit
To Vancouver

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 02:25 PM
If this was any other injury I would be ok with him playing. But concussion problems are no joke. They are career enders if not treated properly. Forget this series. Think long term.

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 02:28 PM
If Daniel has headaches after practice on Tuesday, he should definitely not play game 4. Concussions are serious injuries. The coach would be foolish to risk a player's career in order to increase the chances of victory on Wednesday.

Come on AV, play Kassian on the top line. I am confident that the big guy can play with Henrik and Burrows. Do it!!!

Tegra_Devil
04-16-2012, 02:28 PM
kariya..... lindros

GrapeDrink
04-16-2012, 02:29 PM
^ yeah, this isnt a broken finger or ankle sprain, its not exactly something you can just braveheart it out.

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 02:29 PM
If Daniel has headaches after practice on Tuesday, he should definitely not play game 4. Concussions are serious injuries. The coach would be foolish to risk a player's career in order to increase the chances of victory on Wednesday.

Come on AV, play Kassian on the top line. I am confident that the big guy can play with Henrik and Burrows. Do it!!!

He tried him on top line and it failed

Gumby
04-16-2012, 02:31 PM
Regarding Daniel's situation, the extra few days between games 3 & 4 might come in handy to see if he has any lingering symptoms.

411ken
04-16-2012, 02:31 PM
^how many games did he play on the top line?

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 02:31 PM
kariya..... lindros

Savard. Horton.

411ken
04-16-2012, 02:32 PM
I'm sure this is just part of the process for Daniel's recovery... IF he does somehow play then I expect him to take Weise's spot and just play the powerplay minutes (if we get the chances)..I think Weise plays 5 minutes and Kassian 3 minutes so might as well have Daniel sit on teh bench lol

TRDood
04-16-2012, 02:36 PM
Only retards predicted us sweeping the Kings. Probably the same people who blame Lu for every goal against

EAST

Ottawa over Rangers in 7
Boston over Washington in 5
NJ over Florida in 4
Flyers over Penguins in 7

WEST

Vancouver over LA in 4 (SWEEP~!)
St Louis over SJ in 5
Nashville over Detroit in 7
Chicago over Phoenix in 5

EAST
Rangers over Sens in 7
Caps over Bruins in 7
Devils over Panthers in 5
Penguins over Flyers in 6

WEST
Canucks over Kings in 4
Blues over Sharks in 5
Coyotes over hawks in 6
Nash over Wings in 7



:considered:

TRDood
04-16-2012, 02:39 PM
If Daniel has headaches after practice on Tuesday, he should definitely not play game 4. Concussions are serious injuries. The coach would be foolish to risk a player's career in order to increase the chances of victory on Wednesday.

Come on AV, play Kassian on the top line. I am confident that the big guy can play with Henrik and Burrows. Do it!!!

Did Lappy play with Hank and Burr last night? should consider this for Game 4.

Mixing 2/3 with 23/6 is not a good move. Hell even 8 is starting to panick.

TheKingdom2000
04-16-2012, 02:47 PM
If this was any other injury I would be ok with him playing. But concussion problems are no joke. They are career enders if not treated properly. Forget this series. Think long term.

I agree that concussions are serious business.
But, how many careers have ended due to them?
It just seems like in todays game, everyone is diagnosed with a concussion. I understand that we are better at diagnosing them now, but what about even a few years ago where we didn't have the concussion protocols.. Guys were still getting knocked into boards, hit to the head, etc. And they would play come back and finish the game or play the next day..

We need D.Sedin back.

I'm just saying.

cressydrift
04-16-2012, 02:51 PM
:considered:

We should have swept. I am not a retard (which is not politcally correct), i am mentally challenged. :alone:

DanHibiki
04-16-2012, 02:53 PM
I agree that concussions are serious business.
But, how many careers have ended due to them?
It just seems like in todays game, everyone is diagnosed with a concussion. I understand that we are better at diagnosing them now, but what about even a few years ago where we didn't have the concussion protocols.. Guys were still getting knocked into boards, hit to the head, etc. And they would play come back and finish the game or play the next day..

We need D.Sedin back.

I'm just saying.

Well they know how far along he is more than we do. I just don't want to take the risk of ruining his future for a series that has a 1% chance of winning.

The Sedins success come from the fact that they play together so he won't only be hurting his career but his brother's as well.

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 03:02 PM
everyone is so hyped on Daniel practicing..
sitting down for lunch, i thought about this. Daniel could be there just to have a leadership presence in the room

I mean, no one did say if he was playing or not
only JOINING the team for full practice.
Im sure we will know tomorrow depending on what jersey he steps onto the rink in at practice

kristianhay
04-16-2012, 03:09 PM
^

Obviously people are going to read into it as a sign of him playing. AV said he is following protocol and has been cleared for full practice so. The timing may be a bit weird, but who knows he may actually be feeling fine.

TRDood
04-16-2012, 03:14 PM
^

Obviously people are going to read into it as a sign of him playing. AV said he is following protocol and has been cleared for full practice so. The timing may be a bit weird, but who knows he may actually be feeling fine.

AV is probably "saving Daniel for round 2". :rukidding:

Gumby
04-16-2012, 03:26 PM
This whole "saving x for y" is getting old...

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 03:31 PM
-will definitely keep a close eye on the @VanCanucks tweets for the latest news about Daniel's health after tomorrow's practice.

spideyv2
04-16-2012, 03:33 PM
AV is probably "saving Daniel for round 2". :rukidding:

lulz, k stop

skippynixx
04-16-2012, 03:46 PM
We should have swept. I am not a retard (which is not politcally correct), i am mentally challenged. :alone:

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/2/24/I_see_what_you_did_there_super.jpg

PepperThyAngus
04-16-2012, 03:49 PM
AV is probably "saving Daniel for round 2". :rukidding:

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/disapoint/grand/iiLLU.gif

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 03:52 PM
I think Daniel was cleared for practice b4 game1
there has been speculation that it was also a broken jaw that kept him out

whatever it may be, Danny is in LA atm or heading there as I type.

Concussions are funny. You can be sympton free, and then headaches occur 3-4 months down the stretch.

AzNightmare
04-16-2012, 04:09 PM
AV is probably "saving Daniel for round 2". :rukidding:

:lol

Don't know why I lol'd reading that. I think I've gone hysterical at this point.


Just to note:
Bylsma said Fleury's their goalie for the next four games.
BOLD statement... lol

RRxtar
04-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Remember when Zach Kassian was the key to our playoffs this year? he played 3 minutes last nite and has looked lost the entire series. He may be a good player in a few years with some development, but to think at 21 years of age hes ready to be the gritty power forward in the playoffs is absolutely ridiculous.

CoHo woulda scored a goal.




No Im not letting it go.

Tim Budong
04-16-2012, 04:13 PM
Remember when Zach Kassian was the key to our playoffs this year? he played 3 minutes last nite and has looked lost the entire series. He may be a good player in a few years with some development, but to think at 21 years of age hes ready to be the gritty power forward in the playoffs is absolutely ridiculous.

CoHo woulda scored a goal.




No Im not letting it go.

mehh
CoHo is much further in his development than Kassian is
sometimes, throwing a kid into the jungle so young could hurt him
but the canucks really dont have that option atm..

rsx
04-16-2012, 04:18 PM
:lol

Don't know why I lol'd reading that. I think I've gone hysterical at this point.


Just to note:
Bylsma said Fleury's their goalie for the next four games.
BOLD statement... lol

They have no choice, Brent Johnson sucks.

trancehead
04-16-2012, 04:37 PM
Remember when Zach Kassian was the key to our playoffs this year? he played 3 minutes last nite and has looked lost the entire series. He may be a good player in a few years with some development, but to think at 21 years of age hes ready to be the gritty power forward in the playoffs is absolutely ridiculous.

CoHo woulda scored a goal.




No Im not letting it go.

no kidding,,,
im still kinda butt hurt over that trade
this is just salt on the wounds

jeedee
04-16-2012, 04:48 PM
Some of you guys need to get over the Hodgson trade.

You guys are out to lunch if you think Hodgson is the savior who would carry this team and make it go 3-0.

He is a liability. His defensive game is horrible. His fate was sealed in the Detroit game. Yes, he scored a "clutch" goal, but was responsible for 2 Red Wing goals.

Don't get me wrong, he's one hell of a player but Hodgson would be eaten
ALIVE against the likes of Richards, Kopitar or even Stoll. Pahlsson isn't doing too great and he's a legitimate checking centre! Everyone knows that Hodgson had trouble when matched up with bigger players and that's what the Kings have, a whole lot of big, physical centres that are also extremely skilled.

He was playing sheltered minutes on the third line and would have barely any shifts under AV anyway.

AzNightmare
04-16-2012, 04:55 PM
They have no choice, Brent Johnson sucks.

But Brent Johnson can fight.... :pokerface:

Hondaracer
04-16-2012, 05:01 PM
one thing i dont really understand as well is the Ballard hate

i think he's a pretty servicable player personally

rsx
04-16-2012, 05:04 PM
But Brent Johnson can fight.... :pokerface:

lol was that when he one punched pretty boy dipietro?

We'll see how game 4 goes. I think the Canucks just need to amp up their work ethic and hit more.

TRDood
04-16-2012, 05:09 PM
lol was that when he one punched pretty boy dipietro?

We'll see how game 4 goes. I think the Canucks just need to amp up their work ethic and hit more.

Hitting is not the answer. Scoring would be. The Kings would gladly play the hitting game since they are up 3-0 in the series.

411ken
04-16-2012, 05:15 PM
Some of you guys need to get over the Hodgson trade.

You guys are out to lunch if you think Hodgson is the savior who would carry this team and make it go 3-0.

He is a liability. His defensive game is horrible. His fate was sealed in the Detroit game. Yes, he scored a "clutch" goal, but was responsible for 2 Red Wing goals.

Don't get me wrong, he's one hell of a player but Hodgson would be eaten
ALIVE against the likes of Richards, Kopitar or even Stoll. Pahlsson isn't doing too great and he's a legitimate checking centre! Everyone knows that Hodgson had trouble when matched up with bigger players and that's what the Kings have, a whole lot of big, physical centres that are also extremely skilled.

He was playing sheltered minutes on the third line and would have barely any shifts under AV anyway.
This coming from a guy that bought a Hodgson jersey then had to get it changed to Kassian lol ;)

I like Kassians game too tho and I hope he gets a chance to shine here

RRxtar
04-16-2012, 05:21 PM
I hate to say it, but I actually really like the way the Kings are built and they've actually grown on me a lot in this series. 15 Canadians, 7 Americans, and only 3 europeans with one being Kopitar who plays like Forsberg who didnt play like a european.

Their entire team is hard working tough guys with no wimps. Only 1 guy under 5'11. They don't have any big ego superstars that play like they are untouchable.

As much as I hate them all right now, Id love to have half their guys on our team.

rsx
04-16-2012, 05:25 PM
Hitting is not the answer. Scoring would be. The Kings would gladly play the hitting game since they are up 3-0 in the series.

Of course scoring is the answer, but with a seemingly thin scoring depth and the Kings' stifling system, hitting and trying to create turn overs is the best way to add dimension to their transition game. Hitting forces players to make quicker plays and possibly more mistakes.

Gh0stRider
04-16-2012, 05:39 PM
lol bert

http://i.imgur.com/z8yaT.gif

Hondaracer
04-16-2012, 05:42 PM
kings definately matched up better against the nucks than i expected

Liquid_o2
04-16-2012, 05:44 PM
I hate to say it, but I actually really like the way the Kings are built and they've actually grown on me a lot in this series. 15 Canadians, 7 Americans, and only 3 europeans with one being Kopitar who plays like Forsberg who didnt play like a european.

Their entire team is hard working tough guys with no wimps. Only 1 guy under 5'11. They don't have any big ego superstars that play like they are untouchable.

As much as I hate them all right now, Id love to have half their guys on our team.

Kings are a very well built team. They have all the pieces in place to make a deep run in the playoffs, especially the way Quick has been playing. They are actually my 2nd favorite team, so if they knock the Canucks out I will be cheering them on.

pastarocket
04-16-2012, 05:54 PM
Some of you guys need to get over the Hodgson trade.

You guys are out to lunch if you think Hodgson is the savior who would carry this team and make it go 3-0.

He is a liability. His defensive game is horrible. His fate was sealed in the Detroit game. Yes, he scored a "clutch" goal, but was responsible for 2 Red Wing goals.

Don't get me wrong, he's one hell of a player but Hodgson would be eaten
ALIVE against the likes of Richards, Kopitar or even Stoll. Pahlsson isn't doing too great and he's a legitimate checking centre! Everyone knows that Hodgson had trouble when matched up with bigger players and that's what the Kings have, a whole lot of big, physical centres that are also extremely skilled.

He was playing sheltered minutes on the third line and would have barely any shifts under AV anyway.

Okay, I'm throwing out the billionaire dollar question: "How do you jumpstart the Canucks offence if your two scoring lines are not scoring, the power play is dead, and your D-men are not scoring?" The Canucks have scored four goals after three games.

Can our players get into the high traffic areas to get great scoring chances on Quick and screen this goalie? There has to be a way to solve LA's defensive coverage in their zone. Most of those 40 plus shots in game three were from the perimeter. I cannot think of many high quality scoring chances from game 3 where our guys were right in front of the net, shooting the puck, or trying to jam it past Quick, while we had heavy traffic in front of him.

Willie Mitchell is preventing much of the Canucks forwards from getting quality scoring chances. His sound positioning and his stick that can harpoon a whale is shutting down our forwards. How do you free the forwards from Willie?

Yeah, Cody was a defensive liability. No doubt. He did provide a third option for offense that this team desperately needs right now. If the Canucks don't find a way to score on the PP, or get goals from their top 6 forwards, or even D-men, the Kings are bringing brooms for a sweep.

Gh0stRider
04-16-2012, 06:02 PM
CBC.ca Player (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/BC/1258521056/ID=2223652726)

RRxtar
04-16-2012, 06:06 PM
has anyone noticed how nearly everytime the canucks are skating on a rush they stick to the outside and stop up on the half boards? aside from booth a couple times in games 1 and 2, i cant recall anyone taking the puck to the middle.