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MR_BIGGS
06-29-2011, 02:34 PM
That Globe article/interview with Paul Kariya is a good read. I didn't realize that the guy accumulated 989 points in 989 games.
He has some valid points about head shots. It will definitely be interesting to see if the Ducks retire his jersey with how he left and all.
7seven
06-29-2011, 02:37 PM
Apparently the Isle's offer to Ehrhoff was $5.8M over 6 years.
doverbay
06-29-2011, 02:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvZtrjzPaa0
a new video i found about datsyuk. I know it's not canucks related but i thought it was pretty good.
Next to Nash he's my favourite player.
murd0c
06-29-2011, 02:45 PM
Yep one more year on Rome
Liquid_o2
06-29-2011, 02:48 PM
Apparently the Isle's offer to Ehrhoff was $5.8M over 6 years.
Wow if that is true he must have zeroed in on a certain team he wants to go to. Similar to Hamhuis where he was traded 2/3 times before July 1, then signed automatically with the Canucks.
noots
06-29-2011, 02:57 PM
Another dman to watch is Ryan Parent. If he didn't have to clear re-entry waivers, he most likely would have been the first call-up last season instead of Tanev.
That being said, his past season with the Moose was kinda meh. He needs to solve his confidence issues and have a great training camp. If not, no chance he cracks the opening 23-man roster. If he doesn't make the team from the start, he'll probably be buried in the minors for another season. That would be a shame considering he has so much potential and was so highly touted not too long ago.
MR_BIGGS
06-29-2011, 03:47 PM
Isles trade Ehrhoffs rights to sabres for 4th round pick lol
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spoon.ek9
06-29-2011, 03:47 PM
good to see alberts' hard work and significant improvements weren't wasted :thumbsup:
LSF22
06-29-2011, 03:49 PM
Isles trade Ehrhoffs rights to sabres for 4th round pick lol
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HAHAHA garth snow at his best
b0unce. [?]
06-29-2011, 03:52 PM
I think there's a pretty solid chance he'll sign with Buffalo.
Liquid_o2
06-29-2011, 03:55 PM
Pegula is ready to throw some money around in Buffalo. It comes down to whether Ehrhoff wants to play for the Sabres.
I just hope he doesn't come back to the Western Conference.
RRxtar
06-29-2011, 03:57 PM
islanders just gave up a potential 120-130 pick for a potential 140-150 pick for like, no reason.
spideyv2
06-29-2011, 04:00 PM
islanders just gave up a potential 120-130 pick for a potential 140-150 pick for like, no reason.
Garth wanted a picture with Ehrhoff
Expresso
06-29-2011, 04:04 PM
Ehrhoff is like last years Hamhuis lol!
I still think that he is going to sign with Detriot. It's just too good of an offer to pass up. But maybe Pegula makes a huge pitch like he did with Reghr never know.
Ronin
06-29-2011, 04:08 PM
The Islanders never had a chance unless they offered him something insane like $7m. No way Ehrhoff wants to be on that team. They're getting better quicker than people think but they're still only on the verge of contending for a playoff spot. Ehrhoff is in defenseman prime years (around 28-32) and he'll want to be on a serious contender.
I might be absolutely crazy but I think there's an outside chance he signs with Boston.
Ehrhoff >>>> Kaberle. Roughly the same money.
The only issues is Boston has to think about the future because they don't have ANYONE signed past 2012/13 other than Chara and Marc Savard.
But Detroit has to be the first on the list for Ehrhoff.
Gh0stRider
06-29-2011, 05:38 PM
whats the new on Jagr? heard he said no to pens?
murd0c
06-29-2011, 05:50 PM
whats the new on Jagr? heard he said no to pens?
I can't see him saying no. He still has a house there.
Gh0stRider
06-29-2011, 05:55 PM
I can't see him saying no. He still has a house there.
read it on twitter.
czech news was reporting on it
Gh0stRider
06-29-2011, 05:58 PM
just read that he was suppose to arrive in NY, but he hasn't showed up yet.
will068
06-29-2011, 05:59 PM
That's sad he missed playing in the 98 olympics, since it was in japan. What he said was true..all it takes is once brutal head shot to kill someone
I remember seeing him play on the 03 playoffs, time flies
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tid_86o9M-o
I still remember that hit. The video doesn't do justice since it was slow motion. To this day, it would be fantastic to see Gary Suter or any Suter related player end up like Steve Moore on or off the ice.
spideyv2
06-29-2011, 06:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tid_86o9M-o
I still remember that hit. The video doesn't do justice since it was slow motion. To this day, it would be fantastic to see Gary Suter or any Suter related player end up like Steve Moore on or off the ice.
watching that pisses me off
tonyzoomzoom
06-29-2011, 06:07 PM
And Suter got next to nothing on that hit :swear:
spideyv2
06-29-2011, 06:15 PM
CKNW is reporting that nucks are willing to trade Hodgson, Schneider, and Samuelsson for Parise
people on twitter going HAM
http://twitter.com/#!/search/parise%20schneider%20hodgson
RiceIntegraRS
06-29-2011, 06:20 PM
Wow, i love Parise but how much can we sign that guy for?
For Arguement sake lets say Richards was a Winger.
Do we sign Richards at 7Mil and keep Hodgson, Schnieder, and Samuellson
Or
Do we trade for and sign Parise for 6-7M and lose Hodgson, Schnieder, and Samuellson
7seven
06-29-2011, 06:27 PM
;7494980']I think there's a pretty solid chance he'll sign with Buffalo.
Would not be surprised, fellow Germans Hecht and Uwe Krupp have been selling Ehrhoff on living and playing in Buffalo and the Sabres also open next season in Germany.
As a Sabres fan I don't think we necessarily need Ehrhoff, especially if he's looking for anything close to $6mil per cap hit. Regehr's acquisition already shored up the D, with Myers, Leopold, Sekera, Morrisson and a young Gragnani improving.
I do like how Pegula, who has been a die hard Sabres fan all his life, is will to spend whats necessary to bring the cup to Buffalo. Word is the Sabres will be going after Brad Richards hard.
b0unce. [?]
06-29-2011, 07:03 PM
Would not be surprised, fellow Germans Hecht and Uwe Krupp have been selling Ehrhoff on living and playing in Buffalo and the Sabres also open next season in Germany.
As a Sabres fan I don't think we necessarily need Ehrhoff, especially if he's looking for anything close to $6mil per cap hit. Regehr's acquisition already shored up the D, with Myers, Leopold, Sekera, Morrisson and a young Gragnani improving.
I do like how Pegula, who has been a die hard Sabres fan all his life, is will to spend whats necessary to bring the cup to Buffalo. Word is the Sabres will be going after Brad Richards hard.
yeah buffalo looks like they are really trying to build a better team for the upcoming season. adding regehr to the blueline also brings some much needed veteran presence imo. but with ehrhoff in his prime, many teams will be after him. like the canucks, most teams cant afford/dont want to pay him 6+ mil.
murd0c
06-29-2011, 07:09 PM
Wow, i love Parise but how much can we sign that guy for?
For Arguement sake lets say Richards was a Winger.
Do we sign Richards at 7Mil and keep Hodgson, Schnieder, and Samuellson
Or
Do we trade for and sign Parise for 6-7M and lose Hodgson, Schnieder, and Samuellson
Hodgson and Schnieder are just basically taking up space right now by that I mean there's no spot on the team now and honestly there isn't one for the next couple years and we can get rid of Samuellson with parise taking over his spot with Kesler. Yes your looking at it being a lot to give up but our time is now our players are signed and it's either now or never in a way. Don't forget NJ is in rebuilding mode as well right now and at least it's a east coast team!!
spideyv2
06-29-2011, 07:09 PM
I doubt this rumor is true anyway. Either the idiots on CKNW are dying for listeners or some jackass on twitter started this.
ursher
06-29-2011, 07:11 PM
^ some jackass on twitter looks like he started this.
TSNBubMcKenzie: : #Devils trade Zach Parise to #Canucks for G Cory Schneider, Cody Hodgson,Mikael Samuelsson and conditional 2nd in 2012
shawn79
06-29-2011, 07:14 PM
^ BS!
Wongtouski
06-29-2011, 07:17 PM
Hodgson and Schnieder are just basically taking up space right now by that I mean there's no spot on the team now and honestly there isn't one for the next couple years and we can get rid of Samuellson with parise taking over his spot with Kesler. Yes your looking at it being a lot to give up but our time is now our players are signed and it's either now or never in a way. Don't forget NJ is in rebuilding mode as well right now and at least it's a east coast team!!
As a GM, I don't think MG will let go of Schneider, especially what Luongo did during the Finals. It just doesn't make sense to me.
b0unce. [?]
06-29-2011, 07:17 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Regarding VAN radio report on Parise to Canucks: fantasy. Someone's over-active imagination. Don't believe they're even talking at this pt.
:okay:
@Amb_Alex
Amber Alexander
@TSNBobMcKenzie They have an account trying to be you. @TSNBubMcKenzie is the one that started it on Twitter.
Gh0stRider
06-29-2011, 07:28 PM
@TSNBobMcKenzie Looking into a report NHL teams have asked NORAD to activate the Santa Tracker to locate Jagr.
FeistyBearH22a
06-29-2011, 07:34 PM
bubmckenzie. hahahahaha
hypediss
06-29-2011, 07:38 PM
do we really need parise - he's not one of the guys i think we need to become the sc champs next year
jeedee
06-29-2011, 07:42 PM
But he's definitely a guy that has experience/chemistry with Kes when they played for Team USA.
Raymond-Kesler-Parise would be a deadly line with speed and scoring capabilities...too bad the rumor isn't true :okay:
Ronin
06-29-2011, 07:50 PM
The people who were fooled are those that don't know how to armchair GM properly. You can't trade a guy that is going to salary arbitration.
Plus would you really trade Schnoo, Samuelsson and Hodgson for a guy that ISN'T EVEN SIGNED TO A CONTACT!?
Simulated
06-29-2011, 08:01 PM
its not going to happen but having parise on this team would be unbelievable to watch. playing with kes or even plugging him on the sedin line from time to time to give a different look.
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Ronin
06-29-2011, 08:06 PM
It would be fucking awesome to have Ovechkin, Crosby, Gretzky, Howe, Bobby Orr, Rocket Richard, etc playing with the Sedins!
...why even bother if it isn't even in the realm of possibility? LET'S TRADE TANNER GLASS' NEGOTIATING RIGHTS FOR RYAN MILLER TO BACK UP LUONGO.
SkinnyPupp
06-29-2011, 08:09 PM
HAY I HEARD PAUL KARIYA RETIRED JUST TO GET OUT OF HIS CONTRACT TO SIGN WITH THE CANUCKS!!!!!1
Ronin
06-29-2011, 08:09 PM
What, no Jagr? :troll:
murd0c
06-29-2011, 08:10 PM
It would be fucking awesome to have Ovechkin, Crosby, Gretzky, Howe, Bobby Orr, Rocket Richard, etc playing with the Sedins!
...why even bother if it isn't even in the realm of possibility? LET'S TRADE TANNER GLASS' NEGOTIATING RIGHTS FOR RYAN MILLER TO BACK UP LUONGO.
cause it's the off season and we have nothing better to talk about right now.
Ronin
06-29-2011, 08:15 PM
Well, come up with trades that are even slightly reasonable. Weber, Parise...all these are stupid.
There's TONS of UFAs that the Canucks could be interested in. Ville Leino, Tomas Fleischmann, Joel Ward, Sean Bergenheim, Max Talbot...all would be good, affordable additions to the Canucks bottom six, some of which could surprise and move up to play with Kes.
But I guess they're not as interesting or sensational?
Why? Because the Canucks don't need to make a big splash. They have two of the top point getters in the league. Only Tampa can say that too. They have amazing top end players...they just need a better supporting cast and maybe another top-6 to play with Kes.
RacingMetro92
06-29-2011, 08:19 PM
Well, come up with trades that are even slightly reasonable. Weber, Parise...all these are stupid.
There's TONS of UFAs that the Canucks could be interested in. Ville Leino, Tomas Fleischmann, Joel Ward, Sean Bergenheim, Max Talbot...all would be good, affordable additions to the Canucks bottom six, some of which could surprise and move up to play with Kes.
But I guess they're not as interesting or sensational?
Why? Because the Canucks don't need to make a big splash. They have two of the top point getters in the league. Only Tampa can say that too. They have amazing top end players...they just need a better supporting cast and maybe another top-6 to play with Kes.
Agreed. All the hype about the Canucks picking up some big name via trade or through FA is what it is-hype.
The Canucks have the ability to build through their farm be it forwards (Hodgson, Shirokov) or defense (Parent, Tanev). If anything, the Canucks just need to fill out their bottom 6, and even then they still have some players to resign if they so choose.
If anything, and Ronin is right, the only thing I can see the Canucks really splurging for is another top 6 forward.
spideyv2
06-29-2011, 08:21 PM
HAY I HEARD PAUL KARIYA RETIRED JUST TO GET OUT OF HIS CONTRACT TO SIGN WITH THE CANUCKS!!!!!1
nah, that's wayne gretzky
Ronin
06-29-2011, 08:24 PM
Ronin is right
Naturally.
spoon.ek9
06-29-2011, 08:39 PM
joel ward trolled us throughout that nashville series but does he have the hands and speed to play with kes/raymond?
Simulated
06-29-2011, 08:40 PM
the parise thing was just random and fans are just having fun with it. don't really see the big deal mentioning it. the weber rumour was more annoying as it went for days.
honestly id love to see talbot here but if gillis' intent is to resign all the old guys first i don't see how we will be able to get him..
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bubmckenzie. hahahahaha
Tony G probably created that account :p
spoon.ek9
06-29-2011, 09:10 PM
Tony G probably created that account :p
dinosaurs don't know how to use twitter :p
Agreed. All the hype about the Canucks picking up some big name via trade or through FA is what it is-hype.
The Canucks have the ability to build through their farm be it forwards (Hodgson, Shirokov) or defense (Oberg, Parent, Tanev).
oberg was traded to fla for higgins.
tonyzoomzoom
06-29-2011, 09:33 PM
dinosaurs don't know how to use twitter :p
That dinosaur IS a twit, though :D
Tapioca
06-29-2011, 09:35 PM
There's TONS of UFAs that the Canucks could be interested in. Ville Leino, Tomas Fleischmann, Joel Ward, Sean Bergenheim, Max Talbot...all would be good, affordable additions to the Canucks bottom six, some of which could surprise and move up to play with Kes.
Out of those guys, I would only go for Ville Leino. He's a clutch playoff performer and he's only 24. But, there will be 10 other teams who will throw big money at this guy if Philly can't sign him by Friday.
RacingMetro92
06-29-2011, 09:54 PM
oberg was traded to fla for higgins.
My bad, forgot he was traded. But still, we have enough depth where we don't have to shell out $$$ now when Edler is due up for cash in a couple of years
people are forgetting about connaughton (sp?) too. kids got a hell of a shot and offensive mind but his defense is definitely sketchy still.
I wanna hear BMAC do his Tony impression while talking shit about TSN
b0unce. [?]
06-29-2011, 10:28 PM
It would be fucking awesome to have Ovechkin, Crosby, Gretzky, Howe, Bobby Orr, Rocket Richard, etc playing with the Sedins!
...why even bother if it isn't even in the realm of possibility? LET'S TRADE TANNER GLASS' NEGOTIATING RIGHTS FOR RYAN MILLER TO BACK UP LUONGO.
gretzky doesn't need the sedins. he could just play by himself.
fliptuner
06-29-2011, 10:45 PM
Not true. We'd need to sign Dave Semenko to be his bodyguard.
shawn79
06-29-2011, 11:05 PM
V. Bure: Gillis and the Canucks are pathetic
A fired-up Valeri Bure slammed the Vancouver Canucks and his former agent-turned GM Mike Gillis, calling them "pathetic" for not retiring his brother Pavel Bure's number.
On Team 1040 to talk about Pavel getting passed over again for the Hockey Hall of Fame, Val took aim at Gillis and ripped the organization for failing to recognize Pavel by retiring his number.
“I think Mike Gillis not retiring his number is pathetic, without him they might not have a GM place now,” Valeri said. “The way that Mike Gillis handled himself when the people asked him why Pavel Bure's jersey is not up he said something like 'I'll decide when his jersey goes up' And I thought who gives you the authority to decide. Who are you? You are an ex-agent who got paid by my brother a lot of money, got paid by a lot of players a lot of money, now those players got you that job and now you've got to decide who's jersey is going up or not. This is just absolutely crazy, crazy talk by him and that's one of the things that bother me.”
"(Gillis) has been great for the organization, and it's not that Markus Naslund's jersey went up, so, well my brother's should go up.
"His jersey should be up for what he's done."
Up to now, it's been unclear whether Pavel even wanted to be honoured. But his brother sure made a strong case he does. Valeri said he didn't have bad blood with Gillis and didn't think there was any between his brother and Gillis.
Val also compared his brother to Wayne Gretzky and suggested the Florida Panthers should also retire his number.
shawn79
06-29-2011, 11:09 PM
canucks are pathetic if they dont retire bure
b0unce. [?]
06-29-2011, 11:19 PM
Val is just pissed cause he's no where close as good as his brother.
krazynuck
06-29-2011, 11:25 PM
;7495495']Val is just pissed cause he's no where close as good as his brother.
and because he married the girl from full house
I checked to see how many players have numbers retired and its around 95 (canucks have 3) As much as I like Bure I think you have to be good on and off ice to deserve your number retired....and from what I remember Bure was only amazing on ice
I just assumed he would be in the ring of honor this year though
b0unce. [?]
06-29-2011, 11:49 PM
and because he married the girl from full house
I checked to see how many players have numbers retired and its around 95 (canucks have 3) As much as I like Bure I think you have to be good on and off ice to deserve your number retired....and from what I remember Bure was only amazing on ice
I just assumed he would be in the ring of honor this year though
bure was incredible during his prime, he was no doubt the most exciting player the canucks have ever had, his numbers reflected that. i would be fine if bure's number was retired, at the same time, i don't think people would be that hurt if they dont retire his number.
regarding his HHOF induction, i dont think he'll make it in. the competition's he got is pretty nutty. with a shortened career, it definitely hurts his chances too much.
Ronin
06-30-2011, 01:04 AM
No one here or anywhere gives a shit what Valeri Bure has to say. He was a merely average player in the NHL. I bet Gillis is laughing his head off at this. Oh noes, he's being criticized by a guy that never scored a goal in the playoffs. If his name wasn't Bure, no one would remember this guy.
I listened to his interview on Team1040 and it just sounded like a jaded retired player that's trying to get his name back in the papers and out of insignificance.
Ronin
06-30-2011, 01:05 AM
And Bure might get consideration for HoF in a slow year but he should not have his number retired by the Canucks.
iwantaskyline
06-30-2011, 04:11 AM
The numbers alone PROVE Pavel Bure deserves to be in the HHOF. It's the hockey hall of fame so the criteria should be players who were exceptionally skilled and gifted. Even if Pavel was labelled as a "selfish" or not a model citizen as a player it should not matter at all.
Arguably Bure has accomplished much more as a Canuck then Naslund did. But again it's the way he left, which is why his number isn't retired.
MR_BIGGS
06-30-2011, 06:08 AM
The criteria for players to make the HOF doesn't seem to have much to do with their humility off the ice. Ed Belfour was a prick to reporters and the media, but they looked at his numbers and he deserves to be there.
RacingMetro92
06-30-2011, 06:40 AM
The HOF is starting to get a bottleneck of players as the ones from the 90's ish generation start to gain eligibility. I mean there's Sakic, Curtis Joseph and Shanahan just to name a few guys who are able to go in next year.
IMO, the three guys I mentioned get in, leaving only 1 more spot...Bure isn't getting in with that competition.
Edit: Found the list for next year:
* Jeremy Roenick
* Mats Sundin
* Joe Sakic
* Curtis Joseph
* Brendan Shanahan
* Olaf Kolzig
* Teppo Numminen
* Markus Naslund
* Gary Roberts
* Claude Lemieux
* Bobby Holik
7seven
06-30-2011, 07:45 AM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
As per @GMillerTSN, LAK not happy to learn Colin Fraser, part of EDM Smyth deal, is apparently "injured." Not able to be bought out now.
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
LAK could petition NHL to reverse Smyth trade with EDM, but won't obviously happen because Kings don't want Smyth's salary back on the books
So to summarize:
*Kings and Oilers talk to send Smyth back to Oilers
*Kings tell Oilers they just need a player and a pick back and they will buyout whatever player
*Oilers tell Kings, take Brule, he's healthy and can be bought out
*Oilers refuse to certify in writing Brule is healthy
*Brule is injured and can't be bought out
*Trade falls through
*Oilers and Kings then settle on Colin Fraser and pick for Smyth
*Oilers assure Kings verbally Fraser is healthy and can be bought out
*Fraser is not healthy and stuck on the Kings for full cap hit and contract limit
Wow talk about shady, dirty, slimey bush league organizations. Oilers and Tambo :facepalm:
SkinnyPupp
06-30-2011, 07:50 AM
Oilers are so bush league :lol
krazynuck
06-30-2011, 07:56 AM
So to summarize:
*Kings and Oilers talk to send Smyth back to Oilers
*Kings tell Oilers they just need a player and a pick back and they will buyout whatever player
*Oilers tell Kings, take Brule, he's healthy and can be bought out
*Oilers refuse to certify in writing Brule is healthy
*Brule is injured and can't be bought out
*Trade falls through
*Oilers and Kings then settle on Colin Fraser and pick for Smyth
*Oilers assure Kings verbally Fraser is healthy and can be bought out
*Fraser is not healthy and stuck on the Kings for full cap hit and contract limit
Wow talk about shady, dirty, slimey bush league organizations. Oilers and Tambo :facepalm:
Overall its pretty funny how this went down....I can't believe this much trouble for smyth though
7seven
06-30-2011, 08:30 AM
A couple of updates
Blue Jackets' beat writer is reporting that Wisnewski is currently at Nationwide Arena meeting the teams staff and could expect a signing this afternoon.
Regier at the Regher press conference has said that he has spoken to Ehrhoff and his agent this morning and an offer was presented to them, he expects a decision by this afternoon. Ehrhoff has since called former Sharks teammates and former Sabres Craig Rivet and Mike Grier today to ask questions about living and playing in Buffalo. Current Sabre Jochen Hecht and former Sabre Uwe Krupp have both been in contact in Germany with Ehrhoff about playing in Buffalo. Ehrhoff's wife has also been in contact with Kim Pegula, the Sabres' owner's wife about the Buffalo area.
Rumor is Wisnewski is looking at $5.2M per cap hit for 5-6 years and Ehrhoff asking price is at least $5.5M cap hit, as he wanted from the Canucks.
If both sign, that leaves Anton Babchuk as the top UFA Dman come July 1st? haha
Nashville buys out JP Dumont and confirms they will not resign Shane O'Brien.
Expresso
06-30-2011, 08:54 AM
Wishnewski is not a $5M defensemen.
7seven
06-30-2011, 09:05 AM
So to summarize:
*Kings and Oilers talk to send Smyth back to Oilers
*Kings tell Oilers they just need a player and a pick back and they will buyout whatever player
*Oilers tell Kings, take Brule, he's healthy and can be bought out
*Oilers refuse to certify in writing Brule is healthy
*Brule is injured and can't be bought out
*Trade falls through
*Oilers and Kings then settle on Colin Fraser and pick for Smyth
*Oilers assure Kings verbally Fraser is healthy and can be bought out
*Fraser is not healthy and stuck on the Kings for full cap hit and contract limit
Wow talk about shady, dirty, slimey bush league organizations. Oilers and Tambo :facepalm:
Now in addition to this, it turns out Oilers submitted medical records saying Fraser's foot was healed. Medical examination proved that to be false haha, oh god, the Oilers are like a used car dealership on Kingsway.
From Kings beat writer:
helenenothelen Helene Elliott
Apparently Oilers' medical reports said Fraser was healed. Kings' personnel found otherwise
helenenothelen Helene Elliott
But likelihood of Kings and Oil trading again in future is, um, small.
helenenothelen Helene Elliott
Smyth trade won't be voided. Kings and Oil will try to work this out.
highfive
06-30-2011, 09:11 AM
So to summarize:
*Kings and Oilers talk to send Smyth back to Oilers
*Kings tell Oilers they just need a player and a pick back and they will buyout whatever player
*Oilers tell Kings, take Brule, he's healthy and can be bought out
*Oilers refuse to certify in writing Brule is healthy
*Brule is injured and can't be bought out
*Trade falls through
*Oilers and Kings then settle on Colin Fraser and pick for Smyth
*Oilers assure Kings verbally Fraser is healthy and can be bought out
*Fraser is not healthy and stuck on the Kings for full cap hit and contract limit
Wow talk about shady, dirty, slimey bush league organizations. Oilers and Tambo :facepalm:
Didn't this happened with the Kings when we traded Cloutier for a second round pick?
7seven
06-30-2011, 09:19 AM
Didn't this happened with the Kings when we traded Cloutier for a second round pick?
No, Cloutier was healthy when he was traded, he played about 30 games for the Kings then got injured. Kings bought him out, Cloutier filed a complaint with the NHLPA saying since he was hurt he deserves the full value of his contract.
highfive
06-30-2011, 09:34 AM
ohh cause I remembered that Lombardi was pissed at Nonis for not disclosing certain injuries Cloutier had.
hahaha this is why Twitter is awesome sometimes.
I read
ShaneOBrien55
I could watch Maria Sharapova work the baseline all day.... Because of her Tennis Skills that is.... Or is it?
my next Twitter update.
JoshuaCooper
Preds won't re sign Shane O'Brien
LMAO hahaha
SkinnyPupp
06-30-2011, 09:50 AM
Souray on waivers.. wonder if one of the clown teams will buy him out and re-sign him? :lol
7seven
06-30-2011, 09:53 AM
Souray on waivers.. wonder if one of the clown teams will buy him out and re-sign him? :lol
How else are Florida, Winnipeg, Phoenix & Colorado going to make the cap floor :troll:
Tim Budong
06-30-2011, 09:54 AM
foppa will have his number retire on opening night
http://avalanche.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=567829&navid=DL|COL|home
SkinnyPupp
06-30-2011, 09:58 AM
How else are Florida, Winnipeg, Phoenix & Colorado going to make the cap floor :troll:
If it wasn't for the buyout, he might actually be worth a shot at a cheap deal.. sort of like how the other Oilers reject Torres worked out for the Canucks last season :)
Man what a fucking shitty hockey team they have there.. like in every way imaginable, especially the city itself. Fucking gong show
b0unce. [?]
06-30-2011, 10:09 AM
The HOF is starting to get a bottleneck of players as the ones from the 90's ish generation start to gain eligibility. I mean there's Sakic, Curtis Joseph and Shanahan just to name a few guys who are able to go in next year.
IMO, the three guys I mentioned get in, leaving only 1 more spot...Bure isn't getting in with that competition.
Edit: Found the list for next year:
* Jeremy Roenick
* Mats Sundin
* Joe Sakic
* Curtis Joseph
* Brendan Shanahan
* Olaf Kolzig
* Teppo Numminen
* Markus Naslund
* Gary Roberts
* Claude Lemieux
* Bobby Holik
sakic, shanahan, sundin
the 4th i'd personally choose either cujo or kolzig. iirc both cujo and kolzig never won a cup. kolzig has at least 1 vezina. cujo out performs many goalies even though he's always been on the 'shitty' team at the time. he does have a few gold medals which kolzig doesn't. i guess in the end i'd probably go with cujo.
RacingMetro92
06-30-2011, 10:22 AM
;7495804']sakic, shanahan, sundin
the 4th i'd personally choose either cujo or kolzig. iirc both cujo and kolzig never won a cup. kolzig has at least 1 vezina. cujo out performs many goalies even though he's always been on the 'shitty' team at the time. he does have a few gold medals which kolzig doesn't. i guess in the end i'd probably go with cujo.
Cujo has the most wins of any goalie who hasn't won a cup. So it kind of shows that he can win, even with a team that doesn't get it done.
Liquid_o2
06-30-2011, 10:24 AM
Neither Kolzig or Joseph deserve to be in the HHOF. They were really good goalies with lengthy careers, but the HHOF isn't for "really good" players, it's for great players.
If you look at Joseph's stats, yah he had a lot of wins, but he also played for pretty much 20 years. His save % and GAA are suspect and he never won a cup. I like the guy, but I don't think he should make the HHOF.
What you will see happening now, is a lot of guys will be up for the HHOF from the 80's and early 90's when it was a lot easier to score, so their stats are inflated compared to players of the last 15 years.
I agree with Sakic, Sundin and Shanahan. Nobody else on that list really stands out to me, although Roenick might get in because he was on the the best American players of his generation.
Expresso
06-30-2011, 10:44 AM
Souray on waivers.. wonder if one of the clown teams will buy him out and re-sign him? :lol
I'm sure someone will take a chance on him, short term contract and something around $2.5M. If it wasn't for his huge cap hit, he would probably be playing in the NHL.
LSF22
06-30-2011, 11:01 AM
The HOF is starting to get a bottleneck of players as the ones from the 90's ish generation start to gain eligibility. I mean there's Sakic, Curtis Joseph and Shanahan just to name a few guys who are able to go in next year.
IMO, the three guys I mentioned get in, leaving only 1 more spot...Bure isn't getting in with that competition.
Edit: Found the list for next year:
* Jeremy Roenick
* Mats Sundin
* Joe Sakic
* Curtis Joseph
* Brendan Shanahan
* Olaf Kolzig
* Teppo Numminen
* Markus Naslund
* Gary Roberts
* Claude Lemieux
* Bobby Holik
Shanahan, Sundin, Sakic and Roberts? Even though Roberts didnt exactly finish his career on a high
shawn79
06-30-2011, 11:21 AM
sundin sakic shanahan are a lock
it will come down to bure lindros lemieux
waiting for july 1st...
:alone:
hotshot1
06-30-2011, 12:04 PM
Come on now... Sundin is not a first ballot hall of famer. He was never one of the best players in the league, he was just good for a long time. Plus, he never won the cup or any individual awards, or led the league in anything. He should definitely wait a few years.
IMO it should be Oates, Sakic, Shanahan, Bure/Lindros.
Oates has waited too long. I dunno why Nieuwendyk was in this year over Oates, that was a bad decision imo.
spoon.ek9
06-30-2011, 12:07 PM
lulz edmonton, that's some shady dealings haha. at least smyth can't say the oilers didn't do him any favours. it's just a scheme for him to retire as an oiler. i think team 1040 was saying the guy has an oilers style locker in the basement of his home in edmonton.
Bouncing Bettys
06-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Come on now... Sundin is not a first ballot hall of famer. He was never one of the best players in the league, he was just good for a long time. Plus, he never won the cup or any individual awards, or led the league in anything. He should definitely wait a few years.
IMO it should be Oates, Sakic, Shanahan, Bure/Lindros.
Oates has waited too long. I dunno why Nieuwendyk was in this year over Oates, that was a bad decision imo.
A few things to consider regarding Sundin:
- first European player to be drafted 1st overall in an NHL draft.
- 25th in career points all time
- tied for most regular season overtime goals (15) as well as tied for fastest regular season overtime goal (6 seconds)
- most games played by a European born/trained forward
- most points by a Swedish player
- first Swedish player to reach 1000 points (1349)
- first Swedish player to reach 500 goals (564)
- longest serving European captain in NHL History (10 seasons)
- excluding rookie/lockout/shortened seasons has earned at least 70 points in every season he played.
- 3 World Championship Golds
- 1 Olympic Gold medal as Captain of Sweden
- leader in goals and points for the Leafs
Lastly, the list being discussed is not a list of all eligible players for consideration but those who will become eligible for next year thus why players like Oates are not being listed.
b0unce. [?]
06-30-2011, 12:29 PM
Come on now... Sundin is not a first ballot hall of famer. He was never one of the best players in the league, he was just good for a long time. Plus, he never won the cup or any individual awards, or led the league in anything. He should definitely wait a few years.
IMO it should be Oates, Sakic, Shanahan, Bure/Lindros.
Oates has waited too long. I dunno why Nieuwendyk was in this year over Oates, that was a bad decision imo.
I agree with the Oates comment. However Nieuwendyk definitely deserves to be in. I'd agree with you on that. Oates, Sakic, Shanny, and Lindros.
Spectre_Cdn
06-30-2011, 12:47 PM
FYI: Manny will be at the Salmon Fest. in Steveston tomorrow:
Malhotra will appear at the Scotiabank booth inside the Richmond Olympic Oval Zone on Canada Day, sometime in the afternoon, following the Salmon Festival Parade, which runs from 10 a.m. until noon.
Read more: http://www.richmond-news.com/health/Canucks+hero+Manny+appear+Salmon+Fest/5029156/story.html#ixzz1QnJpEYQw
Liquid_o2
06-30-2011, 12:51 PM
FYI: Manny will be at the Salmon Fest. in Steveston tomorrow:
Read more: http://www.richmond-news.com/health/Canucks+hero+Manny+appear+Salmon+Fest/5029156/story.html#ixzz1QnJpEYQw
Technically he won't be in Steveston according to the article, but at the Oval which is near the airport.
Spectre_Cdn
06-30-2011, 12:56 PM
Technically he won't be in Steveston according to the article, but at the Oval which is near the airport.
Technically he will be in Steveston, because he'll be at a Scotiabank booth in the Richmond Olympic Oval Zone, and not the actual Oval.
Why did LA even bother trying to get a player back for Smyth when their intent was to buy him out anyways? They can't just deal the pick for Smyth outright with no caphit to worry about?
Expresso
06-30-2011, 01:09 PM
Why did LA even bother trying to get a player back for Smyth when their intent was to buy him out anyways? They can't just deal the pick for Smyth outright with no caphit to worry about?
Ideally, that would be the best deal. But EDM wanted LA to take some salary back in the trade. Fraser hit is less than $1M, its not that BAD for LA. They still freed up like $5M in cap space.
7seven
06-30-2011, 01:14 PM
Ideally, that would be the best deal. But EDM wanted LA to take some salary back in the trade. Fraser hit is less than $1M, its not that BAD for LA. They still freed up like $5M in cap space.
And also Edmonton wanted to shed a contract if they where to take Smyth. Keep in mind there is also a limit on the number of contracts a team can have.
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Sure sounds like Christian Ehrhoff is close to being a Buffalo Sabre. Will update when it's confirmed.
1 minute ago
Liquid_o2
06-30-2011, 01:20 PM
Technically he will be in Steveston, because he'll be at a Scotiabank booth in the Richmond Olympic Oval Zone, and not the actual Oval.
Touche!
Reading failure on my part.
If Ehrhoff does sign with Buffalo for $5.5/6 a year I suppose we can assume it is all about the money. Not that Buffalo has a horrible team, but Vancouver does offer a better environment in terms of winning in the end.
7seven
06-30-2011, 01:23 PM
If Ehrhoff does sign in Buffalo, the Sabres have an extremely backlogged D group and wingers.
On D:
Myers
Regher
Ehrhoff
Leopold
Morrisonn
Sekera
Weber
Gragnani
good young D prospects in McNabb, Brennan, Scheistel, Pysyk and Beiga.
Sabres need Centers, maybe might make good trading partners with Canucks again, Hodgson? haha
LSF22
06-30-2011, 01:26 PM
If Erhhoff goes to Buffalo, who becomes Detroit's target?
shawn79
06-30-2011, 01:50 PM
^ kaberle to replace rafalski
krazynuck
06-30-2011, 01:57 PM
If Erhhoff goes to Buffalo, who becomes Detroit's target?
^ kaberle to replace rafalski
or Ian White, Paul Mara
I don't see them going after Jovo or McCabe which would be the other big names
Ronin
06-30-2011, 01:59 PM
Sabres need Centers, maybe might make good trading partners with Canucks again, Hodgson? haha
Hodgson for Ehrhoff? :troll:
No one I'd really want from the Sabres apart from maybe Tyler Ennis. Interesting kid with good upside.
Drew Stafford at $4m is meh.
Ronin
06-30-2011, 02:02 PM
RT @tsnbobmckenzie: Christian Ehrhoff has agreed to terms on a contract with the Buffalo Sabres.
Well, that's done with.
LSF22
06-30-2011, 02:08 PM
^ wish him well and glad he's not going to Detroit
Gumby
06-30-2011, 02:08 PM
Phew - was hoping he wouldn't end up in Detroit.
Guess that officially means we won't be seeing the blitzkreig gif anymore. :)
krazynuck
06-30-2011, 02:10 PM
bitter sweet news
Ideally, that would be the best deal. But EDM wanted LA to take some salary back in the trade. Fraser hit is less than $1M, its not that BAD for LA. They still freed up like $5M in cap space.
Retarded on my part to completely forget about Edmonton wanting to shed a contract as small as it is. Everything else makes sense now, carry on.
LA could have just thrown Brule/Fraser down into minors and if they don't clear waivers LA would be on the hook for half the cap hit with the claiming team picking up the other half, if they do clear then there's no cap hit, right? So it's not like LA doesn't have options.
fliptuner
06-30-2011, 02:13 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie Awaiting confirmation on this, but hearing Ehrhoff's deal in Buffalo is 10 years, $40 million. No clue yet on structure within that.
...
krazynuck
06-30-2011, 02:14 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie Awaiting confirmation on this, but hearing Ehrhoff's deal in Buffalo is 10 years, $40 million. No clue yet on structure within that.
...
WTF if thats true
hypediss
06-30-2011, 02:14 PM
glad we didnt sign him for that length
fliptuner
06-30-2011, 02:17 PM
Didn't he turn down 6yr/35mil from NYI?
hypediss
06-30-2011, 02:18 PM
Didn't he turn down 6yr/35mil from NYI?
i think his second criteria was to play with a cup contender - nyi is defn not and will never be :fullofwin:
highfive
06-30-2011, 02:24 PM
hahaha IF we need to trade Ballard, his stock just went up!
Trade Ballard to Detroit for...... LOL
I can only think of Datsyuk (I wish). or Franzen.
glad we didnt sign him for that length
I wouldn't expect him to realistically play out that 10 year term, just like Luongo will likely be retire before his 13 year term is up. If the contract is front loaded enough, he will have made the majority of his $$ in the first half of the deal and the latter years of the deals are likely worth ~1M/season.
Let's see what Bettman has to say about Air Hoff's deal
fliptuner
06-30-2011, 02:25 PM
That's what I meant. The money wasn't everything but the deal with BUF was more money+contender+long term. Rumour has it, 5.3m cap hit.
Dont think BUF will be a contender anytime soon, they are still rebuilding.
MR_BIGGS
06-30-2011, 02:34 PM
10 years 40 million for the german
Sucks to lose Ehrhoff but at least he didn't sign with a western conference team.
MR_BIGGS
06-30-2011, 02:37 PM
Dont think BUF will be a contender anytime soon, they are still rebuilding.
With Miller in net and Ehrhoff and Regehr joining Leopold and Myers they make the playoffs and anything can happen.
krazynuck
06-30-2011, 02:40 PM
With Miller in net and Ehrhoff and Regehr joining Leopold and Myers they make the playoffs and anything can happen.
Miller will easily get 37 - 42 wins
enough for sure to have Buffalo be in the top 6 in the East
Ronin
06-30-2011, 02:44 PM
hahaha IF we need to trade Ballard, his stock just went up!
Trade Ballard to Detroit for...... LOL
I can only think of Datsyuk (I wish). or Franzen.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
spoon.ek9
06-30-2011, 02:45 PM
wow, if ehrhoff was really looking for 10 yrs with us, i'm glad gillis didn't sign him. especially if it were the rumoured $5.5mil/yr for a decade....
True that.. we better pick up some good acquisitions like ward on july 1st :D
wow, if ehrhoff was really looking for 10 yrs with us, i'm glad gillis didn't sign him. especially if it were the rumoured $5.5mil/yr for a decade....
That would make 55M/10yrs; the speculation is 40M/10yrs which would make it a 4M cap hit, very reasonable for the next 4-6 years as long as he can maintain something close to his current level of play. As fans, what the player actually earns in a given year is irrelevant, it's all about the cap hit :)
Ronin
06-30-2011, 02:49 PM
wow, if ehrhoff was really looking for 10 yrs with us, i'm glad gillis didn't sign him. especially if it were the rumoured $5.5mil/yr for a decade....
What? If it was $5.5m, it would be a $55m deal. Instead it's $40m and that's a good deal. I'm actually sort of surprised Gillis didn't go for that.
The term doesn't matter. I'm guessing it's heavily front-loaded and only $1-2m in the last two or three years. You can easily get rid of that to a salary floor team as he gets old.
Great deal for Buffalo.
LUUUUUUUU
06-30-2011, 02:57 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie
Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. #tsn
Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. #tsn half a minute ago via web
fliptuner
06-30-2011, 03:03 PM
@TSNBobMcKenzie Ehrhoff: Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs.
Weird, I got this via twitter
Edit: ahhh OK that makes more sense.
hypediss
06-30-2011, 03:06 PM
What? If it was $5.5m, it would be a $55m deal. Instead it's $40m and that's a good deal. I'm actually sort of surprised Gillis didn't go for that.
The term doesn't matter. I'm guessing it's heavily front-loaded and only $1-2m in the last two or three years. You can easily get rid of that to a salary floor team as he gets old.
Great deal for Buffalo.
maybe he has a bigger fish to catch :troll:
highfive
06-30-2011, 03:08 PM
I'm surprised Gillis didn't go for this. Isn't Ehrhoff 28? 10 years isn't so bad either. 4 million cap hit.
There must be something that Gillis doesn't see right with Ehrhoff or his willingness to sign his Dman beyond certain age.
sonick
06-30-2011, 03:14 PM
Ehrhoff isn't worth locking down for 10 years. Yes offensively he's top end but for an all-around defenseman he's not worth it.
Now Edler on the other hand, if he goes beast mode in the next season or two to be like mini-Lidstrom as some people have him panned out to be, he'd be worth considering a long term deal like that.
shawn79
06-30-2011, 03:21 PM
lol i guess ehrhoff feels more comfortable playing infront of miller than luongo
invader
06-30-2011, 03:24 PM
Dude cashed in bigtime
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RRxtar
06-30-2011, 03:28 PM
i expect to see these heavy front load contracts go away with the new CBA. it seems like every year theres a new loop hole GM/agents jump thru whether its these 10 year front load contracts, or now more recently massive signing bonuses to avoid huge escrow
Gumby
06-30-2011, 03:28 PM
Can someone explain what the point of splitting his paycheck into salary & signing bonus is?
Ronin
06-30-2011, 03:38 PM
Ehrhoff isn't worth locking down for 10 years. Yes offensively he's top end but for an all-around defenseman he's not worth it.
Now Edler on the other hand, if he goes beast mode in the next season or two to be like mini-Lidstrom as some people have him panned out to be, he'd be worth considering a long term deal like that.
He's not worth 10 years at $5.5m but at $4m a year, that's a great deal for a 50 point defenseman. Especially if the cap continues to rise, $4m for Ehrhoff might be a steal in 2-3 years time when average salary rises.
It's not REALLY a 10 year deal. It's like a 6-7 year deal with 2-3 years tacked on to make it cap friendly.
spoon.ek9
06-30-2011, 03:39 PM
maybe i should clarify: speculation was ehrhoff was seeking $5.5 cap hit with the canucks. that would have been combined with a long term deal which would handcuff the canucks (especially with edler's contract being done soon). i'm not saying ehrhoff was seeking a 10 yr deal with us per say, but it would have been something close to that i would guess. even if this $40mil/10 year deal was signed with us, i'd have mixed feelings about it. i do admit that it is a very trade friendly type of contract though.
also, i'm never the person around here that whines about how much someone gets paid in one year. i always talk about cap hit, not year to year salary.
Splmash
06-30-2011, 03:42 PM
Now 'Hoff has to play the Bruins 6 times a year for the next 10 years.
Can someone explain what the point of splitting his paycheck into salary & signing bonus is?
During the last CBA, players had to take a 25% salary pay cut. Bonuses were not affected, I think. With the current CBA expiring at the end of next season, having a low salary and high signing bonus for the 2012-13 season allows players to collect their $$ even if salaries are rolled back again. Having the signing bonus for this upcoming season just makes it slightly less blatantly obvious that this is what they are trying to do ($8M signing bonus followed by $5M signing bonus the year after?? wtf... Bettman's gota be fuming right now). Bieksa's signing bonuses are spread out over the entire term of the contract to make it seem less obvious, but still that's the intent.
Luongo's contract is slightly different as I recall, with his salary shooting up something considerably for the 2012-13 season anticipating a possibly salary roll back
It's odd that they left this signing bonus loophole open, as cap hit is based on bonuses+salary so obviously PA and NHL are both aware of what could have happened. But then again they left heavy heavy front loaded contracts open as well until Bettman decided it was a crock.
Ronin
06-30-2011, 03:46 PM
Couldn't care less about the actual money and I'm sure Aquaman doesn't either. It's the cap hit that matters and $4m cap hit for Ehrhoff is amazing.
Other D-men that make $4m cap hit?
Tom Gilbert
Ryan Whitney
Joni Pitkanen
Andrej Meszaros
Marek Zidlicky
Zbynek Michalek
Oh, check out the guys that make more than Hoff that are hilarious...
Ron Hainsey
Mike Komisarek
Michael Rozsival
Sentinel
06-30-2011, 03:59 PM
Any guesses on where you guys think Brad Richards will be going?
shawn79
06-30-2011, 04:03 PM
new york or florida, toronto is the worst sports city in north america to play in. Ask anyone
AWDTurboLuvr
06-30-2011, 04:15 PM
I say NYR for Richards. He loves the city, likes the coach and he'll be a good fit there.
shawn79
06-30-2011, 04:16 PM
you forgot he will be playing with gaborik and callahan
I see Richards signing with NYR as well
PornMaster
06-30-2011, 05:24 PM
Jovo back as a canuck?
AzNightmare
06-30-2011, 05:25 PM
^We need someone to play with Kesler.
spoon.ek9
06-30-2011, 05:39 PM
yeah, i think a linemate for kesler should be our highest priority.
LSF22
06-30-2011, 05:44 PM
are we planning on re-signing Higgins?
tr0ubl3s0m3x
06-30-2011, 06:01 PM
^ I remember someone on twitter that he's most likely gonna test the FA market. We def need a winger for Kes to play with. Man, it's gonna be a busy day tmr. Haha
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Who is Ehrhoffs agent and I wonder who else he represents
SkinnyPupp
06-30-2011, 06:31 PM
Sucks that Glad that they didn't sign AIR HOFF for $4 million a year :\
AzNightmare
06-30-2011, 06:33 PM
I guess Ehrhoff's kids aren't going to go to school in Germany anymore.
SkinnyPupp
06-30-2011, 06:40 PM
Wow Hoff's $40 million is structured in a way that nearly HALF of it is paid in the first 2 years... that's scary.
trancehead
06-30-2011, 06:48 PM
I guess Ehrhoff's kids aren't going to go to school in Germany anymore.
Wow Hoff's $40 million is structured in a way that nearly HALF of it is paid in the first 2 years... that's scary.
haha he may be off to the motherland after those two years then:troll:
LSF22
06-30-2011, 06:49 PM
Wow Hoff's $40 million is structured in a way that nearly HALF of it is paid in the first 2 years... that's scary.
yeah, and somehow that doesn't violate any part of the CBA...
fliptuner
06-30-2011, 06:54 PM
are we planning on re-signing Higgins?
Basically, no new news:
http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/6/30/2251899/updates-on-chris-higgins-and-raffi-torres
b0unce. [?]
06-30-2011, 06:55 PM
Called it. Pretty certain that buffalo would sign ehrhoff.
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trancehead
06-30-2011, 07:18 PM
Who is Ehrhoffs agent and I wonder who else he represents
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_6XyXN9-Cw2Kl-5YyYXbN5A8aqxqjTCwoMSJEKUhG9L8TBWLyhQ
hold the phones!
EmperorIS
06-30-2011, 07:23 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_6XyXN9-Cw2Kl-5YyYXbN5A8aqxqjTCwoMSJEKUhG9L8TBWLyhQ
hold the phones!
Ari Gold: Because the Jew has arrived and he doesn't like Germans.
DanHibiki
06-30-2011, 08:29 PM
I thought we offered him 4.6??
So he wanted a long-term deal that the Canucks were not providing is that the story?
jigga250
06-30-2011, 08:40 PM
haha he may be off to the motherland after those two years then:troll:
usually, motherland=russia, fatherland= germany
just FWIW:)
I guess MG didn't want to hold onto Ehrhoff for a decade.
SkinnyPupp
06-30-2011, 08:43 PM
It's hardly even a "10 year deal". It is more like a 5 year deal for $40 million, so $8 million per year. It's just written up at a 10 year contract for cap purposes.
If he turns out to have the durability of Lidstrom, then it's a good deal. And we all know how many Lidstroms there have been in the league, right?
Spectre_Cdn
06-30-2011, 08:57 PM
I guess Ehrhoff's kids aren't going to go to school in Germany anymore.
They could always go for boarding school. He can afford it now (not that he couldn't before... but just saiyan),
FeistyBearH22a
06-30-2011, 09:02 PM
capgeek CapGeek
#NHL #Sabres Christian Ehrhoff will be one of three players making $10 million next season (Lecavalier, Bryzgalov) http://bit.ly/lY2UJ3
Gumby
06-30-2011, 09:29 PM
capgeek CapGeek
#NHL #Sabres Christian Ehrhoff will be one of three players making $10 million next season (Lecavalier, Bryzgalov) http://bit.ly/lY2UJ3
Wow, that really puts it into perspective... CRAZY!
nosaj
06-30-2011, 10:40 PM
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070414081256/uncyclopedia/images/f/ff/Ballin.gif
Can someone explain to me how this isn't a violation of the CBA?
I thought Kovy did something similar to this last year and got his ass handed to him?
SkinnyPupp
07-01-2011, 12:07 AM
Can someone explain to me how this isn't a violation of the CBA?
I thought Kovy did something similar to this last year and got his ass handed to him?
IIRC, It doesn't affect Air Hoff since he won't turn 40 until (just) after the contract.
RRxtar
07-01-2011, 12:32 AM
Higgins is a roster spot. He plays the position (3rd or 2nd line wing), nothing more or less. Hes reliable in that he wont seriously fuck up but hes not a standout. If we lose him, its not a big loss. If he stays, he doesnt belong above 3rd line.
PornMaster
07-01-2011, 12:37 AM
Higgins is a roster spot. He plays the position (3rd or 2nd line wing), nothing more or less. Hes reliable in that he wont seriously fuck up but hes not a standout. If we lose him, its not a big loss. If he stays, he doesnt belong above 3rd line.
U just contradicted yourself....
Expresso
07-01-2011, 01:49 AM
Looks like Buffalo just came up with another way to circumvent the salary cap with signing bonuses. Ehrhoff gets $18M in the first 2 years. His last 3 years, he's paid $1M.
League has approved the contract as well. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot more contracts structured this way in the future.
shawn79
07-01-2011, 02:12 AM
i hope to wake up and see the canucks sign one of these
Simon Gagne, Tomas Fleischmann, Ville Leino and Michael Ryder
trade raymond to nyr for callahan rfa rights
Tomas Fleischmann to replace raymond :alone:
noots
07-01-2011, 02:20 AM
Looks like Buffalo just came up with another way to circumvent the salary cap with signing bonuses. Ehrhoff gets $18M in the first 2 years. His last 3 years, he's paid $1M.
League has approved the contract as well. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot more contracts structured this way in the future.
He's getting $3M total in those 3 years.
Also with the CBA expiring next year, free agents should think about how to structure their contracts. The CBA will be automatically extended on a yearly basis unless either sides decides to cancel. I don't see the NHLPA wanting to but with some teams being forced to spend higher than their internal cap, the owners will be looking for some changes soon. Maybe something will be done then to stop these types of contracts from happening.
FeistyBearH22a
07-01-2011, 06:39 AM
#NHL news. Scratch Sami Salo of the UFA list. He re-signs in with #Canucks. Working on the details but believed to be a 1 year deal at 2M.
Greenstoner
07-01-2011, 06:44 AM
wanted to get a HOFF jersey if he stays :(
68style
07-01-2011, 06:49 AM
^
Whatever, eff him if he thinks $500K a year or all this frontloading B.S. with the money he makes is worth living in an absolute shithole like Buffalo........... you know if a player signs a deal like that, doesn't it pretty much tell you that he only plans on playing decently for another 2-3 years and then slinking off into obscurity? You'd like to think these guys have too much pride to do that, but there's enough Paycheck Penner's in the league to warrant that line of thinking...
FeistyBearH22a
07-01-2011, 06:51 AM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
VAN is also close to agreeing to terms on a 2-year deal with Chris Higgins, but hearing it's not quite done yet.
i hope it was for cheap.
sell_item_604
07-01-2011, 07:04 AM
james wisniewski signed 6yr 33$million contract with Blue Jackets
adding carter+wisniewski.
nice
SkinnyPupp
07-01-2011, 07:24 AM
Here's hoping Salo can pull it together and have an outstanding year - likely to be the last of his career. Just stay healthy for once at least!
EXV603
07-01-2011, 07:29 AM
Shirokov has signed with CSKA Moscow in the KHL. 3 year deal. Damn I was really looking forward to seeing this guy break out in the NHL.
LUUUUUUUU
07-01-2011, 07:35 AM
no Jagr for Pens
LUUUUUUUU
07-01-2011, 07:57 AM
TSNBobMcKenzie
Confirmed, VAN signs Higgins to two year deal with annual cap hit of $1.9M. less than 20 seconds ago via web
Gh0stRider
07-01-2011, 08:00 AM
Pittsburgh Penguins general manager Ray Shero announced that they have withdrawn their contract offer to unrestricted free agent Jaromir Jagr. The offer reportedly was a one year, $2 millon deal.
SkinnyPupp
07-01-2011, 08:06 AM
And we thought Hoff was being greedy :rolleyes:
Just saw on twitter, Red Wings are also out
spoon.ek9
07-01-2011, 08:37 AM
nice, salo and higgins both signed. i wonder what else will happen today!
Grandmaster TSE
07-01-2011, 08:41 AM
NJ sign Andy Green
Grandmaster TSE
07-01-2011, 08:43 AM
i hope to wake up and see the canucks sign one of these
Simon Gagne, Tomas Fleischmann, Ville Leino and Michael Ryder
trade raymond to nyr for callahan rfa rights
Tomas Fleischmann to replace raymond :alone:
leino would be awesome
iono about gagne or ryder
LUUUUUUUU
07-01-2011, 08:46 AM
RealKyper
#NHL news. Hearing #Canucks closing in with an agreement with Andrew Ebbett for 1 year. 3 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Grandmaster TSE
07-01-2011, 08:51 AM
ben eager to edmonton for 3 years
jamal mayers to chicago for 1 year
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 08:56 AM
ben eager to edmonton for 3 years
jamal mayers to chicago for 1 year
ooo now we get to see eager so much more.....he likes us and helps us win:fullofwin:
damn Eaves resigned with Detriot I was hoping he might come our way
RealKyper
#NHL news. Hearing #Canucks closing in with an agreement with Andrew Ebbett for 1 year. 3 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Hmmm...okay....not sure about....
Maybe good depth signing for a LW I guess?
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 09:06 AM
Theodore signed with Flordia 2 years 3 million
LUUUUUUUU
07-01-2011, 09:12 AM
fuck pierre mcguire's on TSN still
Hondaracer
07-01-2011, 09:16 AM
Who is ebbet?
I've been in st.petersburg for a week and just realized ive got wifi now, just in time
For free agency
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Mercy
07-01-2011, 09:16 AM
What if jagr did come to play with kes. :troll:
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kayceeee
07-01-2011, 09:22 AM
RealKyper Nick Kypreos
#NHL news. Raffi Torres signs with #coyotes 2 yrs at 1.75M per year.
Durrann
07-01-2011, 09:23 AM
Nooo serious why Torres
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kayceeee
07-01-2011, 09:25 AM
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Mark Mancari signed by Canucks. $525,000
SkinnyPupp
07-01-2011, 09:26 AM
LOL Jagr ends up signing with Philly what a :troll:
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 09:39 AM
LOL Jagr ends up signing with Philly what a :troll:
wow 3.3 million
awww Torres u will be missed
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 09:40 AM
philly suddenly looks a hell lot better. kinda scary actually.
SkinnyPupp
07-01-2011, 09:40 AM
I knew it! Jovo back in Florida!
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 09:41 AM
jovo to florida
4 year deal.
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 09:42 AM
if florida wants to rebuild, having one of the best goalies like vokoun is absolutely needed. they need to re-sign him.
AWDTurboLuvr
07-01-2011, 09:43 AM
TSNBobMcKenzie: PHI signs Jakub Voracek to a one year deal worth $2.25M. [via Twitter]
That's pretty good for Voracek. PHI is getting pretty good up front.
Hondaracer
07-01-2011, 09:47 AM
Jagr is hella overpaid at 3.3 Richards/Carter is a better combo than anything they will bring in
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Canucks offering for Joel ward.
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LSF22
07-01-2011, 10:05 AM
Varlamov traded to Colorado
Splmash
07-01-2011, 10:09 AM
Why resign Higgins? I can't see where he'll fit in our line up.
AWDTurboLuvr
07-01-2011, 10:09 AM
Varlamov traded to Colorado
TheGoalieGuild: Colorado trades 1st round pick and 2nd round pick to Caps for Semyon Varlamov.
Remember, Avs still need to sign Varly! They gave up a lot for him.
Gh0stRider
07-01-2011, 10:10 AM
Damn torres gone.
Wtf at jagr to philly
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fliptuner
07-01-2011, 10:11 AM
Raffi will be missed
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 10:13 AM
TheGoalieGuild: Colorado trades 1st round pick and 2nd round pick to Caps for Semyon Varlamov.
Remember, Avs still need to sign Varly! They gave up a lot for him.
I was just going to get a caps Varlamov jersey.........so cheap on ebay
but that's a lot for him....
AWDTurboLuvr
07-01-2011, 10:16 AM
I was just going to get a caps Varlamov jersey.........so cheap on ebay
but that's a lot for him....
What's more insane, the AV's don't even have a full-time goalie coach.
As much as I like Raffi, his style of play just isn't suited to how things are called now.
LSF22
07-01-2011, 10:20 AM
Just imagine... if Varlamov is worth a 1st and 2nd round pick, what would Schneider be worth :awesom:
News1130Sports News1130 Sports
3 teams have called Tanner Glass but NOT Vancouver
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 10:24 AM
2 of the biggest ego's in the league playing in philly. could turn out pretty bad too :lol
Splmash
07-01-2011, 10:29 AM
Just imagine... if Varlamov is worth a 1st and 2nd round pick, what would Schneider be worth :awesom:
I don't believe Schneider is worth more than Varlamov. Atleast not at the moment.
Varlamov:
- NHL stats: 30-11-5
- 2 years younger
- more NHL experience
- more SOs, and better GGA (S% is pretty much the same)
Schneider:
- NHL stats: 18-9-3
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 10:29 AM
in hindsight, brunette sounded like a good fit here for the deal he signed for.
LSF22
07-01-2011, 10:32 AM
TheGoalieGuild: Colorado trades 1st round pick and 2nd round pick to Caps for Semyon Varlamov.
Remember, Avs still need to sign Varly! They gave up a lot for him.
Rumors are that Varly might wanna play in KHL too... time will tell if Avs got shafted
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 10:35 AM
glad kaberle is still viewed as a useless player lol
made pretty much zero impact in boston :lol
edit talbot to philly. damn...
Alatar
07-01-2011, 10:37 AM
Columbus lost both Upshall and Hedja.
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 10:38 AM
I don't believe Schneider is worth more than Varlamov. Atleast not at the moment.
Varlamov:
- NHL stats: 30-11-5
- 2 years younger
- more NHL experience
- more SOs, and better GGA (S% is pretty much the same)
Schneider:
- NHL stats: 18-9-3
varlamov is definitely not worth a 1st and 2nd rounder. he hasnt proven shit. avs definitely got shafted.
SkinnyPupp
07-01-2011, 10:42 AM
Avs only other choice was Vokoun, and I guess he probably wants a huge long term cap-circumventing contract?
LSF22
07-01-2011, 10:43 AM
Avs only other choice was Vokoun, and I guess he probably wants a huge long term cap-circumventing contract?
GMillerTSN Gord Miller
by TSNBobMcKenzie
Hearing that Varlamov has signed with Colorado, a deal very similar to Carey Price's with Mtl (2 yrs, $5.5m).
10 minutes ago
Splmash
07-01-2011, 10:44 AM
;7497015']varlamov is definitely not worth a 1st and 2nd rounder. he hasnt proven shit. avs definitely got shafted.
Agree. First round draft picks are too valuable to just throw around like that.
The Av's second round is conditional though.
Alatar
07-01-2011, 10:44 AM
Surprising to see, but Philly actually looks like they've done a good job so far! They've got a goalie (Bryz), Jagr and Talbot. Sure they lost some offense in Richards and Carter, but they've picked up a goalie (desperately needed) and added some pieces they were missing while they were at it.
Alatar
07-01-2011, 10:46 AM
On a side note... Raffi's closer to Mexico now. ;)
b0unce. [?]
07-01-2011, 10:46 AM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
two-way, one YEAR for Meech. LOL.
:D
LSF22
07-01-2011, 10:48 AM
kinda hoping to see Leino sign here
Alatar
07-01-2011, 10:48 AM
;7497028']:D
And Winnipeg makes their HUGE SPLASH. :p
AWDTurboLuvr
07-01-2011, 10:48 AM
Surprising to see, but Philly actually looks like they've done a good job so far! They've got a goalie, Jagr and Talbot. Sure they lost some offense in Richards and Carter, but they've picked up a goalie (desperately needed) and added some pieces they were missing while they were at it.
I like PHI now. They've got a pretty dirty looking top 3 lines.
JVR-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Versteeg-Schenn-Simmonds
What's more important is that Briere wasn't playing his natural position last year and neither was Carter. They had too many centres playing wing. This year, everyone is pretty much playing where they are used to playing.
AWDTurboLuvr
07-01-2011, 10:56 AM
Actually, if the Canucks medical team give him a clean bill of health, Fleischmann could be a good signing since he won't command as much salary with his risk. He would be great to play alongside Kes.
Gh0stRider
07-01-2011, 10:58 AM
Canes get boucher
RT @TSNBobMcKenzie MTL signs goalie Peter Budaj to two year deal
RedWings sign defenseman Mike Commodore to a one-year deal.
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Would love to see Flash here if he's not too banged up. Would really compliment the second line.
BlackZRoadster
07-01-2011, 11:12 AM
And we thought Hoff was being greedy :rolleyes:
Just saw on twitter, Red Wings are also out
Red wings are out of what? Who were they after?
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 11:13 AM
Red wings are out of what? Who were they after?
jagr
BlackZRoadster
07-01-2011, 11:21 AM
Actually, if the Canucks medical team give him a clean bill of health, Fleischmann could be a good signing since he won't command as much salary with his risk. He would be great to play alongside Kes.
Your post makes it sound like the Canucks just conditionally signed Fleischmann.
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 11:23 AM
Sullivan to Pittsburgh 1 year @ 1.5 million seems like a decent deal if he stays healthy
fliptuner
07-01-2011, 11:23 AM
Joel Ward to WSH 4yr/12m
krazynuck
07-01-2011, 11:24 AM
Joel Ward to WSH 4yr/12m
aww really....
Ward to WSH
Great signing, WSH definitely needs to toughen up.
jeedee
07-01-2011, 11:26 AM
News1130Sports Canucks offer to Joel Ward was very competitive. 20 teams in expressed interest - Washington the winner.
fliptuner
07-01-2011, 11:27 AM
#NHL news. Alex Bolduc signs with #Coyotes one year two way contract. 575 / 105.
Yeah I like the way Ward played against us.
fliptuner
07-01-2011, 11:30 AM
RealKyper #NHL news. Marty Reasoner signs with #Isles 2 yrs. 2.7m total.
NHL Report: #Caps keep adding experience: sign Roman Hamrlik to a two-year deal worth $7M total. #NHL
LSF22
07-01-2011, 11:32 AM
Erik Cole signs with Montreal 4 yr/$18 mil
Gh0stRider
07-01-2011, 11:33 AM
WAS signs Roman Hamrlik to a two-year deal worth $7M total.
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