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iwantaskyline
08-18-2011, 11:31 AM
pre order from futureshop and get a steelcase!

http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/11740i73DE40B930539973/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

Is that only for futureshop?

MR_BIGGS
08-18-2011, 12:40 PM
With the PS3 price drop...i'm going to grab one and preorder nhl 12.

:fuckyea:

MR_BIGGS
08-18-2011, 01:14 PM
Andreas Athanasiou Trick Shots - NHL R&D Camp - YouTube

Better angle can be found on TSN.ca videos:

TSN.ca

shawn79
08-18-2011, 01:19 PM
russians practice those things day and night which make them one of the best pure talents out there (ie. kovalev, semin, bure, ovechkin) But north american players are more durable when it comes to hockey because they play more games.

jeedee
08-18-2011, 01:26 PM
Uh..no. Practicing trick shots don't necessarily help shit, cause you can't use them in the game. Just look at Rob Schremp. He knows how to do all those trick shots, but couldn't produce anything in the NHL.

Are you trolling or just retarded? :fulloffuck:

shawn79
08-18-2011, 01:26 PM
:troll:
russians dont practice trick shots but practice more skill like puck handling oppose to playing the game like north american, they play less games in europe
oh i know Rob Schremp, hes in the SEL now
jeedee always on my case

BlackZRoadster
08-18-2011, 01:40 PM
i pre-ordered a while ago from futureshop, only said i'll get goalie boost and not a steel case.

i'll probably return it though anyways, paying $20 from EA is better than $60 for steel case unless u are a tampa fan

Kilinim
08-18-2011, 01:50 PM
i pre-ordered a while ago from futureshop, only said i'll get goalie boost and not a steel case.

i'll probably return it though anyways, paying $20 from EA is better than $60 for steel case unless u are a tampa fan

$20 from EA? How?
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Alatar
08-18-2011, 04:13 PM
$20 from EA? How?
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Employee price.

PornMaster
08-18-2011, 04:19 PM
I pre ordered 2 months ago when they had the 39.99 e3 deal.
will I still get steel case? :D

hotshot1
08-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Roberto Luongo inducted into Italian Walk of Fame:

Roberto Luongo | Italian Walk of Fame (http://italianwalkoffame.com/roberto-luongo/)

:seriously:


Their description is full of so many incorrect statements.


"Luongo is often referred to as the greatest goalie who ever lived" LOL

DanHibiki
08-18-2011, 04:43 PM
I pre ordered 2 months ago when they had the 39.99 e3 deal.
will I still get steel case? :D

I follow the NHL series like mad and I can't believe I never saw this deal. :okay:

DanHibiki
08-18-2011, 04:44 PM
Here's a list of the deals you get from other sitse when you pre-order.

[Elect] *luke warm* NHL 12 pre-order thread with bonus offers ------------->IN STORES 9.13.11 - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/luke-warm-nhl-12-pre-order-thread-bonus-offers-stores-9-13-11-a-1070684/)

spoon.ek9
08-18-2011, 06:18 PM
"Luongo is often referred to as the greatest goalie who ever lived" LOL

that seriously made me :facepalm: HARD... ugh..

Ludepower
08-18-2011, 06:26 PM
"Luongo is often referred to as the greatest goalie who ever lived" LOL

The article was good until they ended with that line.

Roy, Brodeur, Hasek are the goalies who I consider the greatest.

spideyv2
08-18-2011, 07:01 PM
"Luongo is often referred to as the greatest goalie who ever lived" LOL

lmfao and since when did Luongo win the Hart and Lester B Pearson trophy?

winson604
08-18-2011, 07:12 PM
I follow the NHL series like mad and I can't believe I never saw this deal. :okay:

If it makes you feel any better for some odd reason, even with the RFD and word of mouth madness tons of people never heard of this deal. I only lucked out because after avoiding RFD for a while I finally went on one day only to catch the last day of this deal and scored 4 pre orders for $39.99 each.

Next best bet for you, find a friend who works at EA which shouldn't be too hard.

spoon.ek9
08-18-2011, 08:42 PM
lmfao and since when did Luongo win the Hart and Lester B Pearson trophy?

it's worded poorly, but they meant he was a finalist for those trophies.

hotjoint
08-19-2011, 07:46 AM
Is that only for futureshop?

yep

krazynuck
08-19-2011, 08:08 AM
Drury announces retirement...

FROM TSN

Former New York Rangers forward Chris Drury announced his retirement from the NHL on Friday after 12 seasons.

The Rangers bought out the final year of their captain's contract in June after four seasons with the Rangers.

Drury played in only 24 games last season because he broke his finger twice and also underwent knee surgery. He didn't score a goal until the final day of the season.

Drury was drafted by the Quebec Nordiques in 1994 and began his NHL career after the franchise was relocated to Colorado. He won the Calder Trophy as the league's top rookie in 1998-99 and won the Stanley Cup with the Avalanche in the 2000-01.

Drury had 255 goals and 615 points in 892 career games with the Colorado Avalance, Calgary Flames, Buffalo Sabres and Rangers.



He had some crappy seasons the last few years but I guess as no one offered him a contract it was time to hang up the skates

Spy228
08-19-2011, 08:11 AM
Employee price.
not sure if you will be able to buy it from them tho. As far as I know, they didn't sell NHL 11 in their store for quite some time.

murd0c
08-19-2011, 08:12 AM
WOW thats hard to believe after how well he played for the Avs that no one wants him now. Signing for those big dollars with the Rangers sure fucked his career up.

MR_BIGGS
08-19-2011, 08:17 AM
I'm surprised that NHL/Versus is not going to be broadcasting the rematch of the Stanley Cup Final.

So many NHL games on regular TV this season, coupled with NHL Centre Ice so I can watch all the Canucks games.

PornMaster
08-19-2011, 11:58 AM
If it makes you feel any better for some odd reason, even with the RFD and word of mouth madness tons of people never heard of this deal. I only lucked out because after avoiding RFD for a while I finally went on one day only to catch the last day of this deal and scored 4 pre orders for $39.99 each.

Next best bet for you, find a friend who works at EA which shouldn't be too hard.

I posted it in the computer revscene section
most of the time its faster than RFD
probably because some reposted it into RFD lol

UFO
08-19-2011, 12:42 PM
Drury announces retirement...

He had some crappy seasons the last few years but I guess as no one offered him a contract it was time to hang up the skates

Sounds very similar to Naslund's exit from NYR, except Nazzy took the classier route of retiring prior to getting bought out and Drury took the monay.

Regarding rule changes, some of the things they discuss at these development camps are way out of left field, some are good ideas.

I think icing for teams on the PK is a great idea. Make the teams getting penalized think harder about discipline, get some more opportunities at goals (or great saves). Same as letting the goalies handle and take the puck wherever they want, but if they leave the crease they get hit like everyone else. They wear more gear than anybody, no reason why they can't take the abuse that everybody else has to. Don't want to get hit, stay in your crease! You suck at puckhandling, stay in the crease!

Recent rule revisions like making 2 line passes legal and tag up offsides have been great for the pace of the game, and even if it doesn't result in more goals scored, it results in a more entertaining game to watch. If all they wanted was just more goals scored, they could have easily made the nets 8x6 instead of 6x4... just sayin'

hotjoint
08-19-2011, 01:22 PM
not sure if you will be able to buy it from them tho. As far as I know, they didn't sell NHL 11 in their store for quite some time.

that's because every copy they had kept getting scooped up before it could reach the store

Gumby
08-19-2011, 03:46 PM
2011 Miss USA is a Canucks fan:

Crowned Canuck - Vancouver Canucks - Features (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=587204)

http://1.cdn.nhle.com/canucks/images/upload/2011/08/Aug1611_campanella1_rr.jpg

MG1
08-19-2011, 04:00 PM
IIHF Hockey on TSN

Nice to watch good hockey again............ two months to go. Having withdrawls.

jeedee
08-19-2011, 04:30 PM
WOW thats hard to believe after how well he played for the Avs that no one wants him now. Signing for those big dollars with the Rangers sure fucked his career up.

:lol

His career got fucked up by his knee. Not money.

shawn79
08-20-2011, 12:08 AM
I think there are some great ideas for the game in the new propositions. The Hybrid Icing sounds like a great chance to continue the exciting race for the puck while lessening the injury risk. The Trapezoid possibly being removed is good news as well, fantasy goalie points anyone!?! It was a silly and completely useless addition to begin with.

From TSN:

THE "HYBRID" ICING RULE
The hybrid icing rule maintains the exciting race for the puck the fans love, while taking the danger of the end boards out of the equation.

Under the hybrid rule the linesman determines whether a play will be called icing based on which player reaches the faceoff dot first. If he believes the attacking player will be the first to the puck, icing is waved off. If he believes the defending player will eventually win the race to the puck, the whistle is blown and the play stops dead at the faceoff dot, instead of inches from the end boards.

This one is a no-brainer and should be implemented into the game as soon as possible.

NO ICING PERMITTED WHILE SHORTHANDED
Let's think about this one for a second. If icing isn't allowed in even strength situations then why is a team on the penalty kill, a situation in which they are being penalized, allowed to ice the puck?

This rule would not only make minor penalties more prohibitive, it would also enhance the effectiveness of the powerplay by increasing the amount of time spent in the offensive zone. The NHL is always conscious of boosting scoring and this would be a great way to do it.

OVERTIME VARIATION: FOUR MINUTES OF 4-ON-4 FOLLOWED BY THREE MINUTES OF 3-ON-3
It's no secret the shootout is widely disliked in NHL circles, but short of getting rid of it altogether, this tweak might offer some relief.

While asking NHL players to play in a 3-on-3 format seems kind of hokey, if a higher percentage of games could avoid going to a shootout as a result of this rule change, then it should be implemented. Speaking of the shootout, they will also test a five shooter format as opposed to the current three shooter format. The three shooter format makes coming back from a deficit near impossible, so if the shootout is here to stay then the move to a five shooter format should be welcomed.

NO LINE CHANGE FOR TEAM COMMITTING AN OFFSIDE
Penalizing teams for going offside would force players to be more careful upon entering the offensive zone. This would reduce the number offsides along with whistles and play stoppages that go along with them. It may also have the unintended effect of reducing creativity. If teams knew that they could be penalized by going offside then they would be more likely to simply dump the puck in the offensive zone. One thing the league wants more of is creativity and excitement, so they should be careful with this one.

AFTER OFFSIDE, FACE-OFF GOES BACK TO OFFENDING TEAM'S END
What's with the aversion to the offside call? Here's yet another rule aimed at making an offside a penalized offense. This would have the same negative effect as the previous rule discussed. If teams are scared to go offside due to the fear of a faceoff in their own end, they'll simply dump it in. Ask fans how exciting dump and chase hockey is and you have your answer on whether this rule makes it off the drawing board.

REMOVING TRAPEZOID BEHIND NET
The trapezoid rule should never have been implemented in the first place. The thinking was that if the goalies couldn't leave their net to play the puck in the corners it would increase the opposing team's time in the offensive zone, leading to more goals. What it's done is reduced quick breakouts and hampered the ability of goalies to help in the transition game. It's also slowed down the game by forcing the defenseman to skate all the way back to the corner to retrieve the puck.

The league needs to remove the trapezoid and bring back the old days where goaltenders served not only as puck-stoppers, but a helpful sixth-man on the ice. Being able to play the puck efficiently as a goaltender is a skill that should be taught and celebrated, not penalized.

IN-NET GOAL LINE CAMERA
On almost any given night during the hockey season there will be controversy surrounding whether a puck crossed the goal line or not. Well, why not give the boys upstairs another tool to help figure that out. A high definition camera pointed at the goal line would provide an invaluable angle for NHL headquarters when deciding whether a goal is in fact a goal. The technology to do this is out there and has been for a while; there is no reason to wait any longer.

NHL to reflect on rules at annual research and development camp (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=373620)

UFO
08-20-2011, 06:35 PM
I like the thinking behind hybrid icing, but giving that additional level of judgement and power to the officials, I'm not sure how well it can be executed. The rules for penalties let's say are fairly clear and black and white, but how often are they interpreted as shades of grey? With the center ice line and icing calls, some linesmen will let you dump the puck a few feet short of the line without calling an icing while others will not, and once again this is a black and white rule.

jeedee
08-20-2011, 06:44 PM
If the Canucks were a soccer team:

http://i.imgur.com/VcB4V.jpg

Other teams:

Futbol Hockey Kit - Imgur (http://majupra.imgur.com/futbol_hockey_kit)

AzNightmare
08-21-2011, 01:37 AM
I like the icing rule during PK... makes teams think twice about penalties then.
It can really clean up the game from stupid penalties and keep the flow of the game going.

I personally like the Shootout. It's exciting to watch. I don't understand why everyone hates it so much.
Maybe because it becomes a 1 on 1 showdown, rather than a team effort??
It's the quickest way to a conclusion to a game (in most cases).
Unless they plan to have OT only, and bring back ties.
I don't mind having the 4 on 4, and then 3 on 3. But I would rather keep the shootout.
Whenever a game heads to overtime, I always hope the game goes into shootout, and I actually feel jipped when it only ends in OT.

I don't like offside penalized rule... it can't be too harsh or it WILL just be dump & chase hockey.
A fair penalty would be that when the attacking team goes offside, the face-off will take place in the neutral zone,
at the dot besides the offending team's blue line, not at the dot beside the defending team's blue line.

I never noticed the Trapezoid issue... but probably because Luongo's horrible at puck handling...
it was probably a good thing to have for Vancouver... :D I don't mind it being removed though. I really don't care for either way.
It would affect some teams a lot, and not so much for some other teams, depending on their goalies.

The Goal Line Camera is a MUST. Put three tiny cameras in the frame...
top, and both sides. No more questionable goals. Should be very easy now...

Ronin
08-21-2011, 01:55 AM
If the Canucks were a soccer team:

http://i.imgur.com/VcB4V.jpg

Other teams:

Futbol Hockey Kit - Imgur (http://majupra.imgur.com/futbol_hockey_kit)

Whoever makes that '94 one can just take $150 out of my pocket now. Not even kidding. Want. Now.

The one with the modern colors looks like some made a bathrobe into a shirt with that pattern.

DanHibiki
08-21-2011, 02:04 AM
WOW thats hard to believe after how well he played for the Avs that no one wants him now. Signing for those big dollars with the Rangers sure fucked his career up.

This reenforces the point made by Matthew Barnaby on TSN a few years back.

It pays off more in the long run to stick with a team where you it's working for you, performance wise, than to go for the immediate big contract.

I'm sure Anson Carter woulda taken that 2mil with the Canucks looking back now.

Ronin
08-21-2011, 02:21 AM
WOW thats hard to believe after how well he played for the Avs that no one wants him now. Signing for those big dollars with the Rangers sure fucked his career up.

In reality, he wasn't much worse on the Rangers than he was anywhere else. His best offensive year ever was with Buffalo with 69 points. He hit 65 and 67 with the Avs. His first two years with the Rangers, he scored 58 and 56 points.

I don't know about you but I think that's about right. Consider how much better the Avs were at that time and how good the Sabres were at that point as well and the Rangers were a downgrade so he lost about 10 points on his average.

Still, rather consistent in the 55-70 point range with only two years where he failed to hit 50 points after his rookie season. It's not that he sucks, it's that he wasn't worth fucking $7m a year for 5 years. That shit is insane...just like every other contract the Rangers sign.

But he's got injury problems and he's 35. Why push it when you have a Cup and the Rangers just go done paying you $35 million? I'm sure someone offered him a 1-year, $1m deal somewhere to prove himself but he just didn't want to take it.

JesseBlue
08-21-2011, 07:35 AM
with that said, it sounds like that he was about the money...:okay:

GrapeDrink
08-21-2011, 09:36 AM
This reenforces the point made by Matthew Barnaby on TSN a few years back.

It pays off more in the long run to stick with a team where you it's working for you, performance wise, than to go for the immediate big contract.

I'm sure Anson Carter woulda taken that 2mil with the Canucks looking back now.

lol I disagree, you only have so many years as a professional athlete, you get all the money you can asap. There is no guarantee sticking with the same team will = same results, personnel changes to the team/coaching happens every season and it wasn't like drury got that deal when he was a RFA hes not exactly young. That was definitely going to be the last big deal he got unless he turned out to be like a selanne.

shawn79
08-21-2011, 10:20 AM
everyone who goes to the NYR late in their career will likely to retire

richards and gaborik next to retire from NYR? :troll:

JesseBlue
08-21-2011, 11:51 AM
lol I disagree, you only have so many years as a professional athlete, you get all the money you can asap. There is no guarantee sticking with the same team will = same results, personnel changes to the team/coaching happens every season and it wasn't like drury got that deal when he was a RFA hes not exactly young. That was definitely going to be the last big deal he got unless he turned out to be like a selanne.

Half true... See NFL...true if contracts are guaranteed...should be performances based or youre outta there...
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UFO
08-21-2011, 09:03 PM
I'm sure someone offered him a 1-year, $1m deal somewhere to prove himself but he just didn't want to take it.

Reminds me of when Kevin Weekes said he would rather do colour on CBC than take on the role of a backup goalie, lol. I know he never turned out as the goalie of the future, but I really wish NYI or somebody who give him a starting job so I don't have to listen to him on HNIC.

If I was Drury and somebody was dangling say 50% more per year than I know I'm worth, for multiple years, I would be insane not to take it.

Ronin
08-21-2011, 09:17 PM
Drury made the right call. A player in his point range, experience, etc is around the $4m range. That means he made almost $16m more than he was really worth.

He's 35 now so his next contract will count against the cap of whoever signs him regardless of whether he retires or is bought out or whatever. Think about that for a second. If Drury took a $4m deal from Buffalo instead of a $7.xx deal with NYR, he'd STILL be 35.

Even if he plays until he's 40, that means someone out there needs to give him at least $3m a year, 5-year contract NOW for him to make the same amount of money that he made with his NYR contract. He's not an elite player like Pronger. ZERO chance he'd get a $15m, 5-year contract at this point in his career.

TL;DR: By taking the NYR deal instead of staying in Buffalo, Drury made an extra $16m that he would have never gotten otherwise regardless of where he played. He made the smart play.

You might think I'm crazy but looking at the structure of his previous contract, I'm almost SURE this is how his agent explained it to him when he was choosing between Buffalo and New York.

DanHibiki
08-21-2011, 11:30 PM
Does anyone have that Article on the Sedins growing up together and about how they were drafted by Burke??

I can't seem to find it :(

MR_BIGGS
08-22-2011, 12:43 PM
Okay guys,

So I'm in a keeper hockey pool and need some input.

Of these players I can only keep four and have to drop the rest.

1. Jeff Skinner
2. Jamie McBain (D)
3. Zach Bogosian (D)
4. Joe Colborne
5. Kyle Quincey (D)
6. Eric Tangradi
7. Nick Bjugstad

That is how I have them ranked. Does Colborne have a shot at being a top 6 forward in Toronto?

Gilgamesh
08-22-2011, 01:31 PM
colborne is a risk because it depends if connolly gets injured or not. The TML has an effective 2nd line consisting of kulemin. grabo and macarthur- all 3 averaged 50 points last season, so colborne is definitely not playing in the 2nd line.

LSF22
08-22-2011, 01:53 PM
Tried to find the video that goes with this, but IF every word was right.... :fulloffuck:


5 year old recites Canucks vs Chicago overtime - YouTube

jeedee
08-22-2011, 04:14 PM
Okay guys,

So I'm in a keeper hockey pool and need some input.

Of these players I can only keep four and have to drop the rest.

1. Jeff Skinner
2. Jamie McBain (D)
3. Zach Bogosian (D)
4. Joe Colborne
5. Kyle Quincey (D)
6. Eric Tangradi
7. Nick Bjugstad

That is how I have them ranked. Does Colborne have a shot at being a top 6 forward in Toronto?

Your rankings seem right, but I'd have have Bogosian over McBain. Colborne is a bit risky, as he might not make the top 6 in the Toronto. I'd take:

Skinner, Bogosian, McBain and Quincey just to be on the safe side.

trancehead
08-22-2011, 04:21 PM
Quincey is with LA still right? He killed it about 2 years ago:getting points up the ass, including some PP. But now with Doughty and a rejuvenated Johnson on the PP point, I think quincey's value is going to plummet.

And Toronto? :troll:

shawn79
08-22-2011, 04:22 PM
nick bjustad > colborne

more ice for nick in florida + talents

MR_BIGGS
08-22-2011, 06:31 PM
colborne is a risk because it depends if connolly gets injured or not. The TML has an effective 2nd line consisting of kulemin. grabo and macarthur- all 3 averaged 50 points last season, so colborne is definitely not playing in the 2nd line.

Your rankings seem right, but I'd have have Bogosian over McBain. Colborne is a bit risky, as he might not make the top 6 in the Toronto. I'd take:

Skinner, Bogosian, McBain and Quincey just to be on the safe side.

nick bjustad > colborne

more ice for nick in florida + talents


All valid points guys, thanks.

Now I'm leaning towards Quincey for that final 4th spot because I think he'll get a good amount of playing time in Colorado. I think he'll get top 4 minutes and return to the points per game he had before last season which was due to a shoulder injury.

As for Bjustad, I would love to keep him, but even for a keeper league, I think he's still a bit a ways from making the team in Florida. I might be able to re-draft him in a later round of our draft. He did well at the US national junior evaluation camp.

jeedee
08-23-2011, 04:56 AM
2011/08/22:Ryan Kesler (hip surgery) believes he will be ready to play in Vancouver's 2011-12 regular-season opener. "It's going good; small victories here and there," Kesler told Canucks TV. "I just got off my crutches and I'll start strengthening so everything is back to normal. I'll start skating here in the next couple of weeks and hopefully be back by that first game." Kesler understands the rehab process for this procedure because he had a similar surgery in January 2007 and ended up returning 10 weeks later. He said that experience has helped him during this recovery and it may get him back sooner than expected. Stay tuned. (Source: NHL.com)

AzNightmare
08-23-2011, 05:05 AM
Hodgson's not happy...

b0unce. [?]
08-23-2011, 05:24 AM
Hodgson's not happy...

man, i was saying that at the start of this season and for the most of last year.

Expresso
08-23-2011, 08:23 AM
Hodgson's not happy...

Is this your opinion or reported?

Although I'm not surprised if he was. He hasn't gotten any good opportunities so far.

AzNightmare
08-23-2011, 08:49 AM
^ nah, just my opinion.

But it's not going to be reported in the media or anything that Hodgson's mad.
He would be stupid to show it. But we all know how he feels.


On that note, I hope Kesler isn't rushing it. It's early in the season,
and I actually want to see what Hodgson can do...

Tim Budong
08-23-2011, 12:11 PM
Whatever may be the case
The CoHo/Canucks situation is the worst of both worlds since day one.

im not surprised hes not happy, cuz he hasnt really been given a legit chance to actually shine yet either.

on side note...

Jersey Fouls Extra: Edmonton gets RAW with Sheldon Souray - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Jersey-Fouls-Extra-Edmonton-gets-RAW-with-Sheld?urn=nhl-wp11027)

i love how wysh is a huge WWE fan..this is match made in heaven for him. haha

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/5e/5ec842198e0da5048841b7033ad2726a/jersey_fouls_extra_edmonton_gets_raw_with_sheldon_ souray.jpg

trancehead
08-23-2011, 12:16 PM
Hodgson will have to play wing. He'll be fine

nosaj
08-23-2011, 02:09 PM
Winnipeg Jets leaked jersey which they said that these are not real (just read the news from 24hours during my lunch lol).

what do you guys think?

http://i.imgur.com/WnnUq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vnVzF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zjnK5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BxwWz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/66Tm6.jpg

jeedee
08-23-2011, 02:20 PM
Hodgson will have to play wing. He'll be fine

Sounds about right. I've read that Hodgson could play his natural position at center, and Kesler would take the wing. Hodgson would then switch with Kesler when faceoffs are taken.

Win-win situation if that happens.

Hondaracer
08-23-2011, 03:27 PM
lol obviously Kesler is a far superior center than Hodgson in every way, there's no way they would put him at center over Kesler

Center is the hardest position to play on the forwards

shawn79
08-23-2011, 03:56 PM
tampa new jersey looks better than the not yet confirm jets jersey

shawn79
08-23-2011, 04:03 PM
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logoiceplex.jpg
practice facility



and
:fullofwin:
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/jetscap.jpg

b0unce. [?]
08-23-2011, 06:23 PM
reading the story on tsn about crosby... should hockey fans/canadians be worried that crosby might actually be done? stamkos comments on the topic and says he wants crosby back.

he's been out for a while, i figured he would be ready for the playoffs, but now he's not even sure if he's ready for the season opener

shawn79
08-23-2011, 06:27 PM
canada wont be the same without crosby in the 2014 Olympics

and more importantly NHL wont be the same without crosby

jeedee
08-23-2011, 07:13 PM
lol obviously Kesler is a far superior center than Hodgson in every way, there's no way they would put him at center over Kesler

Center is the hardest position to play on the forwards

So would you rather have Hodgson, a guy that has weak skating playing on the wing? Didn't Canucks fans go on and on about Kesler needing someone that can pass the puck to him? Who does that best? Hodgson.

It'd take the pressure off of Kesler to make those passes Hodgson. But as of right now, I'd rather want a legitimate top 6 power forward like Doan to play with Kesler.

canada wont be the same without crosby in the 2014 Olympics

and more importantly NHL wont be the same without crosby

You're thinking about the 2014 olympics when it's 3 years away? :fulloffuck:

Canada has loads of talent progressing with the likes of Stamkos, Carter, Giroux, Duchene, Hall, Eberle, etc who could all crack the roster and take over Crosby's spot if needed.

I wouldn't say Crosby is done..especially when his agent released this statement yesterday:

With a little over three weeks to go before the Pittsburgh Penguins are scheduled to open training camp, Sidney Crosby's status remains as uncertain as ever.

Amid speculation the Penguins captain has suffered a setback in his recovery from post-concussion syndrome, Crosby's agent released a statement Monday to pour cold water on media reports.

"Sidney hasn't been shut down by anyone," said agent Pat Brisson of CAA Sports. "He has simply adjusted his summer program accordingly to the different needs (required) for appropriate recovery."

Brisson indicated that Crosby will address the media at an "appropriate time" to provide an update on his condition.

The 24-year-old hasn't spoke to reporters since two days after the Penguins season ended in April. He last appeared in a game on Jan. 5, when he took a blow to the head for a second straight game and was diagnosed with a concussion.

Last week, Penguins general manager Ray Shero told reporters Crosby "has progressed really well this summer" and indicated the star centre was due to return to Pittsburgh for evaluation before the team opens training camp on Sept. 17.

However, Shero stopped short of predicting whether Crosby would be in the lineup when the Penguins open the regular season in Vancouver on Oct. 6.

"There is no expectation from me that he won't be ready or he will be ready," Shero said.

On Monday night, CTV News reported Crosby had suffered a setback that forced him to cancel all of his scheduled on-ice workouts in a Halifax rink.

Citing several unnamed sources, the network also said it appears unlikely that Crosby will attend the start of training camp—a claim Brisson took issue with.

"Training camp is in three weeks from now," he said. "It is too premature to speculate all kinds of deliberate information at this point. ...

"As far as I know training camp hasn't started yet."

MR_BIGGS
08-23-2011, 07:42 PM
7654

trancehead
08-23-2011, 08:23 PM
^heartwarming


and Crosby is the best player at this moment. Of course that would hurt team canada

Noir
08-23-2011, 09:09 PM
So would you rather have Hodgson, a guy that has weak skating playing on the wing? Didn't Canucks fans go on and on about Kesler needing someone that can pass the puck to him? Who does that best? Hodgson.

It'd take the pressure off of Kesler to make those passes Hodgson. But as of right now, I'd rather want a legitimate top 6 power forward like Doan to play with Kesler.


Let me see if I get this right.


You want to take.... a SELKE CALIBRE 2 way centreman...

to play wing?










IN FAVOUR OF HODGSON? The guy who can't score and can't defend to earn himself a solid roster spot?

I mean, to crack bottom 6 you don't even need scoring. AV just needs you to be defensively reliable at the least; and he couldn't even do that. And you want to give this guy a top 6 spot on a silver platter? based on what? his hype?



Sorry, but if he's ready to be a regular, it'll show in pre-season; let alone be ready for top 6.
(:lol yeah, maybe if we were ranked 25 - 30th in the league)

RRxtar
08-23-2011, 09:12 PM
crosby isnt just the best player in the league. the NHL has done a ton of work pushing him as the FACE of the league since before his rookie season.

spideyv2
08-23-2011, 09:15 PM
crosby isnt just the best player in the league. the NHL has done a ton of work pushing him as the FACE of the league since before his rookie season.


edit - i'm retarded :alone:

spideyv2
08-23-2011, 09:15 PM
Let me see if I get this right.


You want to take.... a SELKE CALIBRE 2 way centreman...

to play wing?










IN FAVOUR OF HODGSON? The guy who can't score and can't defend to earn himself a solid roster spot?

I mean, to crack bottom 6 you don't even need scoring. AV just needs you to be defensively reliable at the least; and he couldn't even do that. And you want to give this guy a top 6 spot on a silver platter? based on what? his hype?



Sorry, but if he's ready to be a regular, it'll show in pre-season; let alone be ready for top 6.
(:lol yeah, maybe if we were ranked 25 - 30th in the league)

lol yeah, hodgson definitely has to earn his position. So far, he hasn't been able to do that.

jeedee
08-23-2011, 09:21 PM
Let me see if I get this right.

You want to take.... a SELKE CALIBRE 2 way centreman...

to play wing?

IN FAVOUR OF HODGSON? The guy who can't score and can't defend to earn himself a solid roster spot?

I mean, to crack bottom 6 you don't even need scoring. AV just needs you to be defensively reliable at the least; and he couldn't even do that. And you want to give this guy a top 6 spot on a silver platter? based on what? his hype?

Sorry, but if he's ready to be a regular, it'll show in pre-season; let alone be ready for top 6.
(:lol yeah, maybe if we were ranked 25 - 30th in the league)

I never suggested it, just read it off someone else :troll:

But where else would Hodgson fit? The 4th line? How was he suppose to progress by playing on the 4th line with the likes of Bolduc and Glass?

Hodgson has been tried on the wing but his speed is not up to par and is a natural fit at centre. A playmaking top-two centre is hard to come by and Hodgson has the talent to be one--he's just never been given the chance with his injury problems and 4th line position.

He's been training with Gary Roberts this summer and is healthy. Just a reminder, Jeff Skinner, Steve Downie and Stamkos all train with Roberts and it helped with their production.

Also, Henrik is reportedly injured, and lets say Kesler is back in time for the season opener. Who would take the 2nd line centre role? MALHOLTRA? LAPIERRE?

The second line desperately needs a play-maker, here's hoping Hodgson can be that guy.

RRxtar
08-23-2011, 09:29 PM
crosby isnt JUST the best player in the league. the NHL has done a ton of work pushing him as the FACE of the league since before his rookie season.

Ok, who in your opinion is the best player in the league then?

:seriously:

Noir
08-23-2011, 09:37 PM
I never suggested it, just read it off someone else :troll:

But where else would Hodgson fit? The 4th line? How was he suppose to progress by playing on the 4th line with the likes of Bolduc and Glass?

Hodgson has been tried on the wing but his speed is not up to par and is a natural fit at centre. A playmaking top-two centre is hard to come by and Hodgson has the talent to be one--he's just never been given the chance with his injury problems and 4th line position.

He's been training with Gary Roberts this summer and is healthy. Just a reminder, Jeff Skinner, Steve Downie and Stamkos all train with Roberts and it helped with their production.

Also, Henrik is reportedly injured, and lets say Kesler is back in time for the season opener. Who would take the 2nd line centre role? MALHOLTRA? LAPIERRE?

The second line desperately needs a play-maker, here's hoping Hodgson can be that guy.

oh, lol. I seriously thought that's you were suggesting.

spideyv2
08-23-2011, 09:57 PM
I never suggested it, just read it off someone else :troll:

But where else would Hodgson fit? The 4th line? How was he suppose to progress by playing on the 4th line with the likes of Bolduc and Glass?

Hodgson has been tried on the wing but his speed is not up to par and is a natural fit at centre. A playmaking top-two centre is hard to come by and Hodgson has the talent to be one--he's just never been given the chance with his injury problems and 4th line position.

He's been training with Gary Roberts this summer and is healthy. Just a reminder, Jeff Skinner, Steve Downie and Stamkos all train with Roberts and it helped with their production.

Also, Henrik is reportedly injured, and lets say Kesler is back in time for the season opener. Who would take the 2nd line centre role? MALHOLTRA? LAPIERRE?

The second line desperately needs a play-maker, here's hoping Hodgson can be that guy.

hopefully hodgson's been working on his skating and strength this off-season.
Imagine Kesler on a line with a good playmaker.....

604778
08-25-2011, 02:15 AM
Sweeet. I know its only preseason and that its starting on the 20th of September. Right when I get back from the Philippines. I just want to watch some damn hockey.

MR_BIGGS
08-25-2011, 12:57 PM
There are 22 Winnipeg Jets games, 28 Montreal Canadiens games, 26 Toronto Maple Leafs games, 20 Ottawa Senators games, 17 Vancouver Canucks games, 13 Edmonton Oilers games and 12 Calgary Flames games on the CBC schedule for 2011/12.
.

fsy82
08-25-2011, 01:12 PM
Really only 17 Canucks games? The team that had the most viewership in the playoffs than any other team on CBC before?

CRS
08-25-2011, 01:19 PM
Really only 17 Canucks games? The team that had the most viewership in the playoffs than any other team on CBC before?

And they wonder why CBC is going through bankruptcy issues.

The NHL already accommodates the East with early game times yet the West always gets effed.

d1
08-25-2011, 01:28 PM
Considering the canucks play only 20 games on saturday including the pre-season schedule, 17 games sounds about right

murd0c
08-25-2011, 01:28 PM
I'm actually happy theres only 17 games on CBC. Less of that clown Kevin Weeks we have to listen to.

LSF22
08-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Possible to request a Kevin Weekes replacement for the 17 games.....

CRS
08-25-2011, 01:39 PM
I'm actually happy theres only 17 games on CBC. Less of that clown Kevin Weeks we have to listen to.

Goalie of the future!

spoon.ek9
08-25-2011, 01:53 PM
I'm actually happy theres only 17 games on CBC. Less of that clown Kevin Weeks we have to listen to.

THANKED. i'm sick of hearing that goof "announce" our games. he's horrendous AND biased. just awful.

dignatas
08-25-2011, 01:59 PM
I'm actually happy theres only 17 games on CBC. Less of that clown Kevin Weeks we have to listen to.

i wish jim hugheson would commentate canuck games rather than talking about how toronto lose every game on saturday :okay:

LSF22
08-25-2011, 02:04 PM
Hope not a re-post


The Scientist: In Loving Memory of Rick Rypien - YouTube

murd0c
08-25-2011, 02:13 PM
i wish jim hugheson would commentate canuck games rather than talking about how toronto lose every game on saturday :okay:

I don't mind Toronto losing every sat at all :fullofwin:

shawn79
08-25-2011, 02:17 PM
when should we start gathering names for RS pool?

In on first group

Ch28
08-25-2011, 02:22 PM
in on 1

CRS
08-25-2011, 03:16 PM
In on one.

PornMaster
08-25-2011, 03:21 PM
im in for 1st group
we should do points instead of Head to Head

LSF22
08-25-2011, 03:24 PM
In on group

7seven
08-25-2011, 03:35 PM
I think I can just do a continuation from last years league, any suggestions to tweak the scoring system?

*edit* yup just checked, renew league option is there, but its way too early to get it going right now. NFL pools haven't even started yet lol.

spideyv2
08-25-2011, 03:37 PM
i wonton

Greenstoner
08-25-2011, 04:05 PM
42 days

SumAznGuy
08-25-2011, 04:11 PM
In on pool 1

Not really racist!
08-25-2011, 04:14 PM
bieksa shooting BBs from the point!!!!

cbc has been pissing me off for the past two seasons now..
remember throughout the whole playoffs they would have a commercial whenever possible and then they'd cut back to the game.. and we wouldn't see the face off..

jeedee
08-25-2011, 04:15 PM
in on pool

trancehead
08-25-2011, 04:17 PM
It was frustrating during the Hawks series when CBC screwed up with the PP timer. Seriously guys?

LSF22
08-25-2011, 04:18 PM
Noob here... so just wondering what the specifics were of your guys pool last year...

shawn79
08-25-2011, 04:33 PM
RS1 for points
RS2 for head to head

Blah_Teggie
08-25-2011, 04:34 PM
In on one!

SchoolGlue
08-25-2011, 04:57 PM
is it everyone can join? i want in for a hockey pool :megusta:

shawn79
08-25-2011, 04:59 PM
waiting for someone to create a new thread so we can sign up :megusta:

LSF22
08-25-2011, 05:05 PM
RS1 for points
RS2 for head to head

Ok thanks, in for 1 then!

tonyzoomzoom
08-25-2011, 05:07 PM
I don't mind Toronto losing every sat at all :fullofwin:

We may not have much of a choice :woot2:

7seven
08-25-2011, 06:51 PM
waiting for someone to create a new thread so we can sign up :megusta:

Relax eager beaver, lets wait until training camp lol. I'll hit the renew buttons on the pools and viola!

HonestTea
08-25-2011, 07:24 PM
THE CHAMP IS HERE!
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shawn79
08-25-2011, 07:26 PM
want to face different opponents this year since i missed the draft :cry:

RRxtar
08-25-2011, 08:46 PM
at least theres 10 canuck games on TSN. more the better!!!

JesseBlue
08-25-2011, 09:46 PM
not too much on cbc as i dont have cable...oh well people are kind enough to post jtv links

JKam
08-25-2011, 10:02 PM
I want in again. I'll win again this year too :fullofwin:

SkinnyPupp
08-25-2011, 10:06 PM
I tried to create a pool on Yahoo but it is giving a "league already exists" error so it's broken somehow.

We need to start a thread anyway, to discuss rules, draft time, etc

shawn79
08-25-2011, 10:42 PM
hondaracer and 7seven owns the rights to those league names

MR_BIGGS
08-26-2011, 07:34 AM
You guys should check out fantrax.com for the pool.

My friends and I made the switch to it last season and we love it.

b0unce. [?]
08-26-2011, 09:03 AM
couture stays in sj 5.75 - 2 year deal

jigga250
08-26-2011, 08:20 PM
;7558516']couture stays in sj 5.75 - 2 year deal

and the kesler deal continues to keep looking better and better...

shawn79
08-26-2011, 08:33 PM
^ not even close to comparison...

Porschedog
08-26-2011, 09:30 PM
Rs1 please =]
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Tim Budong
08-27-2011, 01:53 AM
posting here for good measure...just becuz...

NHL 12 Goalie Fight - YouTube

"Where are your tires, Bobby? I want to pump them WITH MY FISTS."

quote from puck daddy

skiiipi
08-27-2011, 01:55 AM
I'm actually looking at next year's schedule and planning on going on the road to see Canucks play the Panthers and Lightnings Jan 9th and 10th.
Tickets at both rinks are dirt cheap (especially florida, $30 for row 7 centre ice)
What I'm wondering is how is the fan base in these cities? am I gonna be one of the few Canuck fans in the crowd or will there be a fair share of us?

jeedee
08-27-2011, 02:02 AM
I think you're better off going to LA or San Jose, if you're looking for ALOT of Canucks fans in the crowd.

Canucks fans take over Staples Center - YouTube

Vancouver Canucks Fans Celebrate Game 4 Win Over San Jose Sharks at the Shark Tank - YouTube

skiiipi
08-27-2011, 02:11 AM
yea, but i'm also trying to go somewhere i havent gone before in terms of a vacation spot.
I've been to California numerous times.

punkwax
08-27-2011, 06:27 AM
Don't expect many fans in FL period, let alone Canucks fans. Still sounds like fun, and yes, very cheap tickets. I was in Tampa in January and they were advertising $9 tickets, including parking with a money back guarantee if you didn't enjoy the game. I'd grab myself a $9 ticket and sit wherever I wanted to. Lots of seats to choose from.
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jeedee
08-27-2011, 06:46 AM
Holy, $9 for a Lightning game? You'd think prices would be jacked up with a winning team like Tampa with the roster they have...

b0unce. [?]
08-27-2011, 07:05 AM
Holy, $9 for a Lightning game? You'd think prices would be jacked up with a winning team like Tampa with the roster they have...

Too bad the hockey market in Florida is absolute dog shit, same goes with most of America. Football and baseball dominate it. I also find the color commentary and play by play to be boring as well, the broadcaster will always make mistakes too.

spideyv2
08-27-2011, 07:12 AM
RS meet in florida :fullofwin:
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krazynuck
08-27-2011, 08:36 AM
I'm actually looking at next year's schedule and planning on going on the road to see Canucks play the Panthers and Lightnings Jan 9th and 10th.
Tickets at both rinks are dirt cheap (especially florida, $30 for row 7 centre ice)
What I'm wondering is how is the fan base in these cities? am I gonna be one of the few Canuck fans in the crowd or will there be a fair share of us?

RS meet in florida :fullofwin:
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I am planning on going down for these games as well....I heard that the panthers have an area where out of town fans are not allowed to sit so to me that sounds like there is a core base and everyone else is transient

punkwax
08-27-2011, 09:00 AM
^Ya, probably all Canadian retirees in that section.
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spoon.ek9
08-27-2011, 09:15 AM
;7559524']Too bad the hockey market in Florida is absolute dog shit, same goes with most of America. Football and baseball dominate it. I also find the color commentary and play by play to be boring as well, the broadcaster will always make mistakes too.

don't forget basketball in the states. huge.

b0unce. [?]
08-27-2011, 09:18 AM
;7559524']Too bad the hockey market in Florida is absolute dog shit, same goes with most of America. Football and baseball dominate it. I also find the color commentary and play by play to be boring as well, the broadcaster will always make mistakes too.

don't forget basketball in the states. huge.

Ahh yep. Side note - wasn't it rumored that we were going to buy the hornets or some dying NBA team?

shawn79
08-27-2011, 09:42 AM
Hope we get the hornets, we would get all the star forward pot heads on this team.

They come here for the weed but stern knows that's y he's not gonna bring the nba back here
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Selanne_200
08-27-2011, 10:07 AM
I was at a panthers game a couple years ago and it was against the caps. The arena was still half empty and almost half of those at the game could care less about the game. The 60 dollars for enter ice lower bowl row 10 was a pretty good deal tho. The rink itself is located like an hour away from miami so it's like in the middle of no where off of the hwy.when I was asking the hotel concierge about how to get there, he hasn't even heard of the bank atlantic center
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skiiipi
08-27-2011, 10:51 AM
Thanks everyone for their feedback.
Yea its gonna be a fun little trip. Flight doesn't seem to be too expensive to florida either.

The only other out of town game I've watched recently was 2 years ago in chicago, where luongo got pulled after the 1st period.....I paid $250 per ticket...sat in a section with ALL blackhawk fans....while wearing a luongo jersey....not a fun experiance to say the least.
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b0unce. [?]
08-27-2011, 11:05 AM
Thanks everyone for their feedback.
Yea its gonna be a fun little trip. Flight doesn't seem to be too expensive to florida either.

The only other out of town game I've watched recently was 2 years ago in chicago, where luongo got pulled after the 1st period.....I paid $250 per ticket...sat in a section with ALL blackhawk fans....while wearing a luongo jersey....not a fun experiance to say the least.
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Man that must have felt like you were drowning in a sea of aids

shawn79
08-27-2011, 11:47 AM
catching the heat/magic play would be a far better experience

trancehead
08-27-2011, 11:48 AM
one of the tsn comments from the couture signing. sprouted because people all over the world love to rag on phil kessel and the leafs


@ DogDaysofsummer: I agree with your statement 100% that 'Defense wins you championships' since the best offensive players can be shut down by a stifling defence. That said, it takes a team effort to accomplish that feat, with ALL players buying into that system and style of play, and therefore we can safely conclude that no ONE player can win a championship let alone a series in the NHL playoffs. I witnessed first hand, the 'Almighty Boston Bruins' of the 1970-1971 season dominate the league with superstars such as Bobby Orr, Phil Esposito, Wayne Cashman, Derek Sanderson to name a few, yet they were beaten by a strongly united and regenerated Montreal Canadiens team back stopped by rookie Ken Dryden. It takes outstanding goal tending, solid DEFENCE, solid hitting, and timely scoring, and intangibles such as leadership to win the Stanley Cup. So, to put the onus on Phil Kessel and blame him for the woes of the Toronto Maple Leafs in recent years, is unfair.

jeedee
08-27-2011, 02:48 PM
catching the heat/magic play would be a far better experience

Too bad the NBA is locked out :lol

If I were you skiiipi, i'd rather attend a Tampa game rather then the Panthers game for obvious reasons..

Sentinel
08-27-2011, 05:37 PM
I went to PHX last season and bought tixs for $56CDN, sat about 12rows up from the Canucks bench.

jigga250
08-27-2011, 06:33 PM
catching the heat/magic play would be a far better experience

not if you're a hockey fan...

jigga250
08-27-2011, 06:39 PM
^ not even close to comparison...

How is it not even close? They're both young, both centers, both getting 2nd line minutes. Obviously Kesler is better defensively and Couture only has ONE season where he scored more than 5 goals and 9 pts (and even last year he only had 56 pts. 5.75mil is a LOT of money for a guy who is so unproven, and that deal could end up looking very ugly if he is a flash in the pan.

spideyv2
08-27-2011, 06:52 PM
How is it not even close? They're both young, both centers, both getting 2nd line minutes. Obviously Kesler is better defensively and Couture only has ONE season where he scored more than 5 goals and 9 pts (and even last year he only had 56 pts. 5.75mil is a LOT of money for a guy who is so unproven, and that deal could end up looking very ugly if he is a flash in the pan.

lmfao, his cap hit is $2.875 mill for 2 years, which IMO is a very good deal. It's only around 300k more than Raymond's cap hit, and i'd MUCH rather have Couture on my team.
And of course he's only had 1 season where he scored more than 5 goals, he's only been playing in the NHL for 2 seasons.

Couture is still very young, and comparing his contract to Kesler's is completely irrelevant and stupid.

Gumby
08-27-2011, 09:29 PM
If I were you skiiipi, i'd rather attend a Tampa game rather then the Panthers game for obvious reasons..
Yah I'd much rather watch Tampa (Ohlund!) than Florida... I can't name a single player from the Panthers off the top of my head, LOL.

jeedee
08-27-2011, 10:28 PM
Yah I'd much rather watch Tampa (Ohlund!) than Florida... I can't name a single player from the Panthers off the top of my head, LOL.

Jovocop :okay:

skiiipi
08-27-2011, 10:33 PM
Too bad the NBA is locked out :lol

If I were you skiiipi, i'd rather attend a Tampa game rather then the Panthers game for obvious reasons..

Yea I will be watching both games. Its on back to back nights, and its only a 4 hour drive between 2 cities.
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spideyv2
08-27-2011, 11:42 PM
Yea I will be watching both games. Its on back to back nights, and its only a 4 hour drive between 2 cities.
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Im probably gonna go too, gonna be a good experience
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skiiipi
08-27-2011, 11:50 PM
Im probably gonna go too, gonna be a good experience
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Yea, I just checked flights
Fly from SEA to FLL then fly back from TPA to SEA, round trip flight for $360pp not bad at all.
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kristianhay
08-28-2011, 12:45 AM
Healthier Cody Hodgson getting personal coaching from Claude Lemieux

Prospect says he's 'as ready as I can be' ahead of Canucks training camp




Given what Cody Hodgson means to both the present and the future of the Vancouver Canucks, there was a good deal of talk and thought this summer put towards turning around the rough start this terrific NHL prospect has experienced so far.

The Canucks coaches and management have held several conversations with the Hodgson camp — which now includes his personal coach Claude Lemieux, if you can call him that — and whether or not the club agrees 100 per cent with this new initiative and all it might one day involve, it certainly has the player stoked and ready to try to have his best training camp ever.

"I am really excited to be completely healthy again, strong and really looking forward to camp," said Hodgson, who will come into town right after Labour Day.

"It's been the best summer in a long time for me and I'm coming in as ready as I can be to help regardless of the roster, what positions are open or not or what the coach is thinking. It's his job to make those decisions and my job to be the best player I can be no matter where I'm used."

Hodgson said those words like he truly meant them.

Whether this personal-coach approach is a one-off or an idea that may catch on with a lot of young players around the league remains to be seen, but there's no question it has really given Hodgson a mental lift, which is one of the areas he and Lemieux have been working on.

"I've been through a lot of different situations in my career and I think I'm going to be able to help the players I work with both on and off the ice with both mental and physical preparation," says Lemieux, who now lives in Toronto, given his own son is an aspiring hockey player.

"I remember a situation in New Jersey about two months into the season I was at rock bottom and thinking 'I need to get out of here, I want a different start in a new organization.' But Lou Lamoriello [Devils GM] and I talked and he expressed faith in me, and a few months later I was the MVP of the playoffs. A fresh start in another city wasn't what I needed at all. I needed to make some adjustments in my attitude and look at the team around me differently.

"Vancouver is one of the best organizations in the game; why would you want to go to another team? You have to look at your surroundings in the right way and I think Cody's definitely doing that."

Lemieux is involved with a company called 4Star which works with and represents athletes, and they've established a working arrangement with Hodgson's agent, Ritch Winter's Sports Corporation, to help their hockey clients. Hodgson is one of the higher-profile players to have this type of help.

"We've had a number of discussions with the coaches and management in Vancouver and we expect to talk from time to time," said Lemieux, who is really looking forward to the new role as a substitute for playing. "Being able to help another player, to me it's the next best thing to playing yourself and that's something I can't do anymore."

"He's helped me with quite a few things," says Hodgson. "We've worked on mental preparation, footwork, shooting and places to shoot and different ways of scoring. It's been really interesting."

In many ways this makes a lot of sense for the coaches. For instance, on just a straight personal experiential level, what can Alain Vigneault and Rick Bowness, both career defencemen, tell a young forward about the game? They can teach him a lot about what they expect and explain the reasoning of their decisions, but helping 25 different guys in individual areas where they would like to improve is a tall order. Teammates are a help, of course, and the skills coach the Canucks introduced last year was another great step. But it would seem a personal coach can do nothing but help if he isn't too overbearing or interfering. Why should goalies be the only players with an individual or personal coach?

How Hodgson plays from here on in isn't going to be the ultimate test of the personal-coach concept in the NHL, of course, but it may be fun to examine the effects in this one situation at least.

© Copyright © The Province


Healthier Cody Hodgson getting personal coaching from Claude Lemieux (http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Healthier+Cody+Hodgson+getting+personal+coaching+f rom+Claude+Lemieux/5318060/story.html)

For anyone that may have been wondering how he was doing.

jeedee
08-28-2011, 02:40 AM
lolol nhlshop selling this:

http://nhlca.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p10893179p275w.jpg

spideyv2
08-28-2011, 02:44 AM
lolol nhlshop selling this:

http://nhlca.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p10893179p275w.jpg

RS group buy :troll:
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Tim Budong
08-28-2011, 03:29 AM
lolol nhlshop selling this:

http://nhlca.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p10893179p275w.jpg

what is seen cannot be unseen...

wow...so fucked

Vansterdam
08-28-2011, 05:49 AM
ewwwwwwwwww

Gh0stRider
08-28-2011, 06:45 AM
lolol nhlshop selling this:

http://nhlca.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p10893179p275w.jpg

WTF is that??? :facepalm:

jeedee
08-28-2011, 06:50 AM
Which would you rather wear :troll:

http://nhl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p10377913p275w.jpg VS http://nhl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p10893179p275w.jpg

quasi
08-28-2011, 07:31 AM
Looks like they tried to rip off the NFLs Shadow jersey's but fucked it up by adding color. If the green was white it would look better.



http://www.jerseyshoppings.com/images/nfl/nflminnesotavikings20.jpg

http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/195/680/150/favre-4-black-jersey1-d2443.jpg

SumAznGuy
08-28-2011, 09:31 AM
I'm actually looking at next year's schedule and planning on going on the road to see Canucks play the Panthers and Lightnings Jan 9th and 10th.
Tickets at both rinks are dirt cheap (especially florida, $30 for row 7 centre ice)
What I'm wondering is how is the fan base in these cities? am I gonna be one of the few Canuck fans in the crowd or will there be a fair share of us?

Just suggested this to my wife and she is 100% for it.
Where are you looking to see $30 tickets?

skiiipi
08-28-2011, 10:46 PM
Just suggested this to my wife and she is 100% for it.
Where are you looking to see $30 tickets?

On Ticketsnow.com

i guess there will be a few of us canuck fans down for these two games.
RS meet in florida?

SumAznGuy
08-28-2011, 10:51 PM
I'm down for a RS meat in Florida.

skiiipi
08-28-2011, 11:13 PM
I'm down for a RS meat in Florida.

haha sweet, this is gonna be fun.
I'm gonna book my flights next week, just waiting on a friend to confirm.
Cheapest flight I found is on expedia for $360ish to fly from seattle to fort lauderdale, then fly back from tampa to seattle.
Red eye flight there to save 1 night of hotel.

Let me know if you find something cheaper

spideyv2
08-28-2011, 11:19 PM
see y'all in FL :fullofwin:

skiiipi
08-28-2011, 11:26 PM
I wonder if it will be cheaper if all of us go to a travel agent and ask for a "group rate"

spideyv2
08-28-2011, 11:44 PM
most likely.

how are you guys planning on getting from sunrise to tampa bay?

skiiipi
08-28-2011, 11:46 PM
Car rental.
Hertz one way, full size $50/day
If there is enough of us, we can probably rent a 12passenger van haha.
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skiiipi
08-28-2011, 11:49 PM
Jayare604, how many of you guys are going?
It will probably be 4 in my group.
I assume sumaznguy's party will be 2
we should honestly go ask a travel agent for a group rate on flight.
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spideyv2
08-28-2011, 11:59 PM
Jayare604, how many of you guys are going?
It will probably be 4 in my group.
I assume sumaznguy's party will be 2
we should honestly go ask a travel agent for a group rate on flight.
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i'm probably just going with my girlfriend..problem is, I only have my N and not an international license

skiiipi
08-29-2011, 12:12 AM
You do not need an international license to drive in the states. Our canadian license is valid
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spideyv2
08-29-2011, 12:15 AM
You do not need an international license to drive in the states. Our canadian license is valid
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wow, i'm a nub lol

JKam
08-29-2011, 07:33 AM
wow, i'm a nub lol

I'm assuming you're under 25. If so, you'll be raped up the ass to rent a car.

68style
08-29-2011, 07:46 AM
Back to hockey topics, that article made me think Hodgson is a total headcase and he's never going to make this team.

I'd be happy to be wrong, but what a disappointment after all the draft hype... sheesh...

7seven
08-29-2011, 07:49 AM
Apparently, Lady Gaga went to MTV VMAs as Roberto Luongo
By Greg Wyshynski

What's more shocking than wearing a dress made of meat? Showing up as Roberto Luongo(notes), apparently.

Lady Gaga opened up the 2011 MTV Video Music Awards with a bit of cross-dressing performance art that'll likely manage to piss off the anti-smoking crowd as much as it baffled Young Bieber.
To the surprise of the four or five hockey fans watching, Gaga's character bore a striking resemblance to a certain Vancouver Canucks goaltender, particularly because she had yet to win any hardware that evening. He, too, was on the edge of glory this year.

We'll be sure to update this breaking news should Katy Perry or Ke$ha respond by performing in a handlebar mustache and carrying a Conn Smythe Trophy.

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/23/23af4cb23c62b1f4a105b3d0f755b1ef/apparently_lady_gaga_went_to_mtv_vmas_as_roberto_l uongo.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/fe/fea16fa447407dad81670a915ee2a044/apparently_lady_gaga_went_to_mtv_vmas_as_roberto_l uongo.jpg

spoon.ek9
08-29-2011, 08:11 AM
hahaha gaga.... was that really her intention or is this just a joke by the media?

SumAznGuy
08-29-2011, 09:16 AM
Yeah, it will be me and my wife. We'll probably fly into Miami and drive up to Sunset for game one. Then drive back to Miami for the night.
Next day, we will drive up to TB for the second game and then drive the 2 hours to Orlando and stay there for the night.
Not sure about flying back yet. Might make it a week long holiday for us.

MR_BIGGS
08-29-2011, 10:11 AM
hahaha gaga.... was that really her intention or is this just a joke by the media?

:seriously:

SumAznGuy
08-29-2011, 11:29 AM
On Ticketsnow.com

i guess there will be a few of us canuck fans down for these two games.
RS meet in florida?

Which side of the rink is the home side? I would like to get tickets to sit behind the Nuck's bench.

nosaj
08-29-2011, 12:29 PM
it's a surprise :troll:

pure.life
08-29-2011, 12:59 PM
some hockey news today

Flames trade Langkow to Coyotes for Stempniak pending physical (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374721)

Tegra_Devil
08-29-2011, 02:46 PM
CAP SPACE! WOOT WOOT!

Renthal
08-29-2011, 03:08 PM
tegra go back to your old avatar! :sweetjesus:

Tegra_Devil
08-29-2011, 03:12 PM
hahaha, i felt like a change up to new olivia nipples

spoon.ek9
08-29-2011, 04:32 PM
^ you're showing one less nipple on her. we now tolerate you half as much :D

skiiipi
08-29-2011, 10:13 PM
Which side of the rink is the home side? I would like to get tickets to sit behind the Nuck's bench.

I think section 102 is right behind the nuck's bench.

Tegra_Devil
08-30-2011, 05:09 AM
^ you're showing one less nipple on her. we now tolerate you half as much :D


:okay:

MG1
08-30-2011, 07:32 AM
seaweed, good to see you're back. Avatar is fine........... mighty fine. Need a bit more lighting.. too dark in some places.

Tegra_Devil
08-30-2011, 12:32 PM
^^^cant give you all the goods to quickly............lets just say i have a olivia 'wilde' card up my sleeve for hockey season.


get it.............you know.................wild card.....but wilde...............get it......u know.........pretty clever........... ;)

mako
08-30-2011, 12:55 PM
You dork
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Tegra_Devil
08-30-2011, 02:33 PM
You dork
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you loved it!

tegra go back to your old avatar! :sweetjesus:

RIP....for now.......old avatar

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4138/tumblrletntg9mmr1qadncd.jpg

Not really racist!
08-30-2011, 04:47 PM
NHL 2011-2012: 10 Bold Predictions for the Vancouver Canucks This Season | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/827807-nhl-2011-2012-10-bold-predictions-for-the-vancouver-canucks-this-season)

Not really racist!
08-30-2011, 11:22 PM
hbd ryan kesler!

b0unce. [?]
08-31-2011, 12:10 AM
hbd ryan kesler!

Beat to it!

Happy Birthday Kes!

spideyv2
08-31-2011, 12:37 AM
can't believe Kesler is already 27
hbd

d1
08-31-2011, 01:01 AM
The Philadelphia Flyers have signed forward James van Riemsdyk to a six-year extension worth $25.5 million.

The average annual cap hit for the deal is $4.25 million.

Flyers sign van Riemsdyk to six-year, $25.5M extension (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374780)

Overpayment as of now but he could turn out to be a beast.

DanHibiki
08-31-2011, 01:20 AM
can't believe Kesler is already 27
hbd

can't believe i'm already 27

:alone::okay:

jeedee
08-31-2011, 06:02 AM
@Ryan_Kesler (http://twitter.com/#!/Ryan_Kesler): Great first day back on the ice!!! Another battle won!!!!

Not sure if he's trolling CoHo or srs, but nevertheless great to hear he's doing well

MR_BIGGS
08-31-2011, 06:56 AM
From TSN.ca

This hasn't been getting much attention on this board, but how tragic would it be if Crosby misses a long stretch or even the whole year due to concussions.

Are you guys taking him with your first round pick in the draft if he's available??

PITTSBURGH - All-star forward Sidney Crosby has seen concussion specialists around the United States, the Pittsburgh Penguins said in a statement Wednesday.

The specialists have been monitoring Crosby's progress as he tries to shake headaches and other concussion symptoms.

The Penguins expect Crosby to be back in Pittsburgh for a few weeks, although no specific timetable has been set for his return to the ice.

"I appreciate all the support I've received from my family, friends, teammates and fans and from the entire Penguins organization," Crosby said. "I know they only want the best for my health, and for me to be fully ready when I return to game action."

Crosby suffered a concussion in early January and missed the rest of the 2010-11 season.

The 2007 NHL MVP made progress over the summer and took part in his normal off-season workout program that includes skating, shooting, stickhandling and off-ice work.

fobulaus
08-31-2011, 07:00 AM
I was just thinking that. I don't think I have him in top 5 at the moment, probably only if its a late 1st round pick.

jeedee
08-31-2011, 07:05 AM
Yeah, I'd pick him at a late 1st round or early 2nd round--just too risky

Hondaracer
08-31-2011, 07:17 AM
I told my buddy in my keeper pool I'd give him jeff Carter and a first round pick plus next year 2nd round pick for an injury prone Crosby lol he doesn't know what to do
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JKam
08-31-2011, 08:01 AM
Yeah that's crazy... Crosby isn't in my top 5 for sure. I'll take him if he drops to me in the late first round. It's been happening a lot in the mock drafts I've been doing though.

MR_BIGGS
08-31-2011, 08:37 AM
I told my buddy in my keeper pool I'd give him jeff Carter and a first round pick plus next year 2nd round pick for an injury prone Crosby lol he doesn't know what to do
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I think Jagr is going to get drafted early in the 1st round of our keeper pool. But ya the guy who has Crosby in our pool, won't accept a trade for Crosby unless he's offered the moon.

I wouldn't take that offer you made your buddy. Hell I got offered 3 first round picks for Patrick Kane (likely very low picks).

How are you guys rankings the rookies this year? My ranking is below and takes into consideration how I think the person drafting in my pool will pick so it doesn't not nessicarily reflect the actual scouting rankings:

1. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2. Adam Larsson (D)
3. Gabriel Landeskog
4. Jonathan Huberdeau
5. Ryan Strome
6. Sean Couturier
7. Mika Zibanejad
8. Ryan Murphy (D)
9. Sven Bartschi
10. Joel Armia

Ch28
08-31-2011, 08:41 AM
Ugh.....so many decisions to make for this weekend's pool draft

There's 14 of us and I'm drafted 3rd in a non-snaking draft. Tempted to pick up Crosby if he drops to the 2nd round.

Grandmaster TSE
08-31-2011, 09:29 AM
Ugh.....so many decisions to make for this weekend's pool draft

There's 14 of us and I'm drafted 3rd in a non-snaking draft. Tempted to pick up Crosby if he drops to the 2nd round.

start doing your homework haha

jeedee
08-31-2011, 10:06 AM
LOL

@vancouvermetro: Attempt to ship $12K worth of bogus Winnipeg Jets jerseys crashes and burns at the border Metro - $12,000 worth of bogus Winnipeg Jets jerseys seized at border (http://cot.ag/pMDnMp)
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Tim Budong
08-31-2011, 12:11 PM
I found this quite interesting
let Puck Daddy explain

Ryan Kesler vs Nick Mangold of the NY Jets on the topic of "Kes-lurking"
Team Mangold vs. Team Kesler: Who is master of the Photobomb? - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Team-Mangold-vs-Team-Kesler-Who-is-master-of-t?urn=nhl-wp11489)

ends with a war of words on twitter between kesler, Mangold and Mark Sanchez

LOL

Ikkaku
08-31-2011, 01:47 PM
Wade Belak found dead

Ex-Leafs enforcer Belak found dead | Hockey | Sports | Toronto Sun (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/31/ex-leafs-enforcer-belak-found-dead)

Ludepower
08-31-2011, 02:09 PM
Wade Belak found dead

Ex-Leafs enforcer Belak found dead | Hockey | Sports | Toronto Sun (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/31/ex-leafs-enforcer-belak-found-dead)

Boogard
Rypien and now Belak

wtfux is happening

sonick
08-31-2011, 02:09 PM
WTF?! :fulloffuck:

spideyv2
08-31-2011, 02:20 PM
This is not a good look for the NHL

RIP

Tim Budong
08-31-2011, 02:21 PM
its never good when anyone dies
but man..all 3 players have a past of fighting

LSF22
08-31-2011, 02:22 PM
WTF!! Just saw on TSN.

R.I.P

jeedee
08-31-2011, 02:35 PM
RIP Belak

LsquareD
08-31-2011, 02:53 PM
Wow wtf....

RIP

rsx
08-31-2011, 03:10 PM
RIP

These men were 4th liners, tough guys that had to, literally, fight for a spot to play in the NHL. It's terrifying to think what kind of demons they battled and subsequently lost to.

InvisibleSoul
08-31-2011, 03:14 PM
Also suicide by hanging? Did he have issues with depression too?

nosaj
08-31-2011, 03:19 PM
....RIP :(

Gh0stRider
08-31-2011, 03:58 PM
RIP Wade Belak

RRxtar
08-31-2011, 04:09 PM
retired in april. must be tough being a pro athlete and have nothing to do when training camp starts

Hondaracer
08-31-2011, 04:45 PM
he was gonna work with preds radio crew, also was going to be on battle of the blades, which was in pre-filiming which was also why he was in Toronto

they always talk about how much these "tough guys" must go through to make it in the NHL and the demons, but fuck really how hard could it possibly be? is it really that mentally taxing to be an "enforcer" ? or is it just the physical pain and subsequent painkiller meds that put these guys in this spot

looking from the outside life cant be all that bad for a guy making a nice 6 figure salary for a good chunk of time with a reasonably bright future ahead of them.

Bouncing Bettys
08-31-2011, 05:26 PM
RIP Belak. He was one of my favourites when he played for the Leafs and he had such a great off-ice personality and sense of humor.

7seven
08-31-2011, 06:42 PM
RIP Belak. This was more shocking than Rypien, Ryp always was the quite one who kept to himself most times and did have personal issues having to take leaves of absences from the team. Belak always seemed like a really well adjusted, outgoing, humorous and happy individual. He had a young family as well :(

Wade a Minute, Episode 3 "Wade's World.... at home" - YouTube


he was gonna work with preds radio crew, also was going to be on battle of the blades, which was in pre-filiming which was also why he was in Toronto

they always talk about how much these "tough guys" must go through to make it in the NHL and the demons, but fuck really how hard could it possibly be? is it really that mentally taxing to be an "enforcer" ? or is it just the physical pain and subsequent painkiller meds that put these guys in this spot

looking from the outside life cant be all that bad for a guy making a nice 6 figure salary for a good chunk of time with a reasonably bright future ahead of them.

Over the years, I've been lucky enough to meet and become friends with several former and current NHLers, having chatted about stuff like this with some of them. Without naming names, I'm hoping I could provide some insight and understanding.

First thing to keep in mind is that for the majority of pro hockey enforcers, none of them wanted to have to be a fighter for a living. Most of them do it out of necessity to make it to or to keep a job in the NHL. These guys aren't boxers or MMA athletes that chose to fight for a living and have that mind sight of wanting/loving to fight.

Most hockey enforcers get extremely nervous about having to fight, some even for days before playing another team where they know they will be expected to drop the gloves against that teams enforcers. Knowing you have to fight to keep your job in the NHL but not wanting to fight takes a toll on these guys mentally. A lot of these guys turn to drugs and or alcohol to deal with this, which in some cases can lead to substance abuse. Substance abuse and not wanting to fight but having to, can certainly alter ones personalty negatively and/or result in personal demons. Some might be thinking, that no one is forcing these guys to be a hockey player for a living, but for most, it is the only way they know how to support themselves and their loved ones. For some, their whole identity and all they know is to be a hockey player.

Before this next point, let me first say that I have no issue with fighting in hockey and am not one of those advocating for it to be taken out of hockey, I've been in a number of fights in my personal/professional life and constantly train in boxing and various MMA disciplines, but unlike boxing or MMA, fighting in hockey is bare knuckle, no gloves, bare knuckle shots hurt. Most people would be surprised the amount of pro athletes who abuse the use of oxy to help deal with the pain of just playing hockey for a living, now imagine the amount of oxy an enforcer feels he needs. Repeated bare knuckle blows to your head can result in concussions, which in a lot of cases of former NHLers and NFLers have lead to an onset of depression. Some individuals just can't deal with depression or drug abuse well and maybe in the cases of Rypien and Belak, saw no other way out but suicide.

punkwax
08-31-2011, 07:32 PM
^ this.

Most enforcers made it that far because they could actually play. When coaches (junior or whatever) pressure guys with natural ability to fight because they seem to have the chin for it - and it brings another 'element' to their game - many make the adjustment and literally fight for the opportunity to make the NHL and earn pro money.

Some are cut out for it, others aren't.

RIP Wade Belak

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JesseBlue
08-31-2011, 08:46 PM
poor guy...

this might be the beginning of the end of fighting in the NHL...

CRS
08-31-2011, 10:34 PM
poor guy...

this might be the beginning of the end of fighting in the NHL...

Doubt it.

SumAznGuy
09-01-2011, 01:03 AM
fighting in hockey is bare knuckle, no gloves, bare knuckle shots hurt. Most people would be surprised the amount of pro athletes who abuse the use of oxy to help deal with the pain of just playing hockey for a living, now imagine the amount of oxy an enforcer feels he needs.

Don't forget the damage they do to their hands and knuckles when the first few punches are directly onto the helmet of the opposing fighter.

Out of anger, I punched a wooden wall at work. It took quite a few weeks before I was able to close my hand to make a fist without it hurting. And even though it has been almost a year, my knuckle is not the same. If you compare my two hands, you can spot the difference.

I remember there was a clip where Don Cherry was talking about meeting some enforcer guy and his 2 knuckles were smashed. Now imaging that same guy having to go out next game and knows he has to fight that team's enforcer with said smashed knuckles.

Hondaracer
09-01-2011, 06:13 AM
Call me cold hearted or whatever but for 800k a year a few broken bones seems a small price to pay, people live much tougher lives then these enforcers who might earn an 8th of what they do..

All these deaths kind of seem similar to all the WWE deaths that happened a while back
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chouchou
09-01-2011, 06:49 AM
A few broken bones isn't the only price to pay.. If you read 7seven's post... it goes much deeper, and further than any physical "pain".

Talk about the concussions, eventual psychological repercussions from repeated bare-knuckled blows. Clearly 800k/year wasn't enough to keep these guys from their eventual downfall.

Yeah it may seem as if most hockey players live a glorious career, and yes they do get paid more and are subject to a much more lavish lifestyle than most. However, one cannot attest to knowing what kind of mental trauma any/all these 'enforcers' encounter.

punkwax
09-01-2011, 07:05 AM
These guys play hockey all their lives, in many cases head and shoulders above people their own age talent wise, dreaming of becoming the next Wayne Gretzky. Then they get to Junior and are playing against older guys and suddenly they're on the 4th line struggling for minutes. Coach says, "want more ice time, you gotta fight."

Dreams crushed. Guy with skills turns meathead because that's all he thinks he's good for.

Rypien is a great example, you can tell he had pure offensive skills with some of the goals he scored. His dad was a Golden Glove boxer... doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out he could probably throw them too.

That would mess with a lot of people's psyche. Like I said, some are cut out for it, others aren't.

MR_BIGGS
09-01-2011, 07:13 AM
George Parros is a perfect example of a guy who had to change his style and become an enforcer so he could make the NHL.

Many of these enforcer types didn't start off as these kinds of players, but instead were ripping it up in all levels as they moved up. Those other skills didn't quite translate to NHL success, so they have to change their style. Wade Belak was the 12th overall pick in his draft year. He didn't get to that position for his fighting skills, but his other skills. However those skills wouldn't keep him in the NHL, so he had to change his style.

Although George Parros changed his style to become an enforcer so he could stay in NHL, the guy had a Economics degree from Princeton University.

But does that Ivy League degree mean that if he wasn’t playing hockey, he would he be wearing a suit and tie on Wall Street – possibly as the world’s most intimidating stock broker?

“You know what? Everybody asks me that, but I’ve never really thought of anything except playing hockey,” said the 28-year old.

“It’s kind of what I was trained for, but I never applied for any jobs or anything like that. Hockey was always my favorite sport and something I wanted to do for as long as I can remember.”

Even with a deep passion and commitment to the game, Parros hit a few bumps in the road when attempting to continue his career after college. Playing in his first professional season with the American Hockey League’s Manchester Monarchs, he struggled with the realization that he would have to adjust his game to suit a new style of play.

Parros readily admits that he began to lose his feel for the game upon receiving reduced ice time, and realized his offensive abilities weren’t going to punch his ticket onto an NHL roster. Instead, he adjusted on the fly and began using his large frame to fill the role of an enforcer for Manchester.

“It was tough going from Princeton, where I played lots of minutes and was an important part of the offense, to being an enforcer,” said Parros.

“But that’s fine, because it’s what got my foot in the door. I’m happy to fill my role now, but it was certainly an adjustment. Sometimes it’s tough to accept a new role at the beginning, but it got me where I am.”

SumAznGuy
09-01-2011, 08:04 AM
Since no one mentioned it yet.


Bruins' Savard pronounced out for season, future in doubt (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374868)

MR_BIGGS
09-01-2011, 08:12 AM
Call me cold hearted or whatever but for 800k a year a few broken bones seems a small price to pay, people live much tougher lives then these enforcers who might earn an 8th of what they do..

All these deaths kind of seem similar to all the WWE deaths that happened a while back
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When someone sees a tweet like this from a millionaire who reitred young by society's standards (Might still be playing in the KHL), it makes people not really feel sorry for them. While it makes them sound self-righteous, you often hear about athletes having an extremely difficult time coping with "not being in the dressing room, with the boys, in the spotlight." When I see that quote from Sopel, at first I think, "cry me a river" go travel the world with the amount of money you have...but then I relalize, they probably need some sort of exit strategy for athletes who retire so they can cope with a new life. We all know that not every retired NHL'er is going to end up on the TSN Panel.

With that being said, more has to be done by the NHLPA and the agents. So when the next collective bargaining agreement has to be signed, maybe things such as mental health and exit strategies for retirement are on the agenda and not just the salary cap. The NHL is a business for profit, it's the hockey players who need to demand changes from their agents and union.

All we know is that 3 current NHL players died this year. They happened to fight in their careers. Correlation does not mean causation.

7seven
09-01-2011, 08:36 AM
Byfuglien got arrested yesterday for BWI, operating a boat while intoxicated.

Hennepin County > Sheriff's Jail Roster (http://www4.co.hennepin.mn.us/webbooking/chargedetail.asp?v_booknum=2011023422)

And he's even more of a fat ass now, 286lbs.

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Re: Byfuglien - told now refusal of BWI (boating) test. Also told he weighed in at 286 lbs. Holy crap! He played at about 245 lbs last year.

DanHibiki
09-01-2011, 08:45 AM
Byfuglien got arrested yesterday for BWI, operating a boat while intoxicated.

Hennepin County > Sheriff's Jail Roster (http://www4.co.hennepin.mn.us/webbooking/chargedetail.asp?v_booknum=2011023422)

And he's even more of a fat ass now, 286lbs.

He needs that extra stored fat for the Winnepeg winter :troll:

Hondaracer
09-01-2011, 08:51 AM
Lol 286.. Have fun cutting in 2 weeks
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jeedee
09-01-2011, 09:05 AM
The complete Canucks prospects camp and Young Stars tournament roster | Vancouver Sun Sports Blogs (http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2011/08/31/the-complete-canucks-young-stars-roster/)

For the Surrey jacks out there, good to know Prab Rai is still playing. Haven't heard anything from him in the last 1-2 years

Ch28
09-01-2011, 09:12 AM
Byfuglien got arrested yesterday for BWI, operating a boat while intoxicated.

Hennepin County > Sheriff's Jail Roster (http://www4.co.hennepin.mn.us/webbooking/chargedetail.asp?v_booknum=2011023422)

And he's even more of a fat ass now, 286lbs.

Looks like he was caught ....

*puts on shades*

motorboating

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hondaracer
09-01-2011, 12:01 PM
Dustin boatdrunken
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7seven
09-01-2011, 12:04 PM
If Buff falls on Lu again, Lu is a goner.

Kilinim
09-01-2011, 12:48 PM
Lol
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highfive
09-01-2011, 01:19 PM
Schneider fans would be happy then. lol

MR_BIGGS
09-01-2011, 01:42 PM
What kind of season do you guys think Jagr has:

a) less than 30 points
b) 30-50 points
c) 50-60
d) 70 +

Kilinim
09-01-2011, 01:43 PM
30-50
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shawn79
09-01-2011, 02:23 PM
60-70

spideyv2
09-01-2011, 02:57 PM
bout tree fiddy

JKam
09-01-2011, 03:23 PM
70+!!!!!

:troll:

Alatar
09-01-2011, 04:29 PM
>9000.

7seven
09-01-2011, 05:54 PM
bout tree fiddy

Jagr's pt total or Buttuglylien's weight by training camp? :fullofwin:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2cge8hs.jpg

PornMaster
09-01-2011, 07:44 PM
I say about 30-40 points for jagr.
When I was watching him play in the olympics he was a lot slower than most players

mb due to his age?

shawn79
09-01-2011, 07:50 PM
hes gonna have more than 40 assist, even if hes slow he can see the ice better than most

Hondaracer
09-01-2011, 07:59 PM
whos he gonna play with though? Giroux and JVR?

if he gets injured it will most likely be for an extended stretch as well

i dunno it's a risky pick early on

On that note, does anyone know any site like yahoo etc. that does just a straight points pool? not fantasy?

shawn79
09-01-2011, 08:13 PM
jagr to mentor schenn :troll:

what happened to petr prucha aka baby jagr :fuckthatshit:

MR_BIGGS
09-01-2011, 09:13 PM
whos he gonna play with though? Giroux and JVR?

if he gets injured it will most likely be for an extended stretch as well

i dunno it's a risky pick early on

On that note, does anyone know any site like yahoo etc. that does just a straight points pool? not fantasy?

Fantrax.com

Set up the pool any which way.