[spoon.ek9]

;7797116']who the fuck cares :awwyeah::fuckthatshit:

i concur. it's CBJ :fuckthatshit:

[kwy]

Cost of a ticket there is like $20. Their mascot is a dildo on wheels. They have one good player. It's fucking Ohio.

They have nothing good going for them. I don't know who decided to build a franchise in Ohio, but that was stupid.

[RRxtar]

ive never been there but Columbus isnt too far from Pittsburgh and Detroit, id say in a 'hockey area' of the country. has a metro area of 1.8million and the state is the 7th most populated in the US. they are averaging about 14,500 attendance with a losing team in a 10 year old franchise. i bet the attendance in 2008–09 was even better when they actually played ok.

Cleveland and Cincinnati are both in ohio with similar metro sizes and support MLB, NBA, and NFL teams. its not like the team is in north carolina or tennessee.


again, i dont claim to know anything, but id say they arent in a bad hockey market.

[FerrariEnzo]

to bad the canucks cant facilitate a trade until 2017 season... unless bobby lu wants out himself by 2015... damn... by 2015, hes already on his decline... WTH were the canucks GM thinking.. signing a 30year old to a 12 year contract...

[EmperorIS]

Trade luongo for jeremy lin

[DanHibiki]

to bad the canucks cant facilitate a trade until 2017 season... unless bobby lu wants out himself by 2015... damn... by 2015, hes already on his decline... WTH were the canucks GM thinking.. signing a 30year old to a 12 year contract...

to lower the cap hit. they all know lu isn't playing the full contract.

[AzNightmare]

So any guesses how long you guys think Lu will play until?

[411ken]

Well, the Rick Nash trade talk is in full swing, as the entire league begins to lick its chops as it tries to see what it would take to land the big winger out of Columbus. Not that Vancouver needed any confirmation to be involved in the Nash rumors (Currently 97% of all players in the league are on their way to Vancouver. According to Eklund at least.), but Pierre LeBrun added fuel to the fire by mentioning on TSN Radio that Vancouver has had contact with the Blue Jackets. They could be just asking to borrow that kick ass cannon the Blue Jackets use during their games, or maybe there is something to these Nash rumors, we don’t know at this point.

And who cares, really? Half of the fun of the weeks leading up to the trade deadline is the fact we all get to play the “What if?” game and try and see which pieces fit where, and who might work out on what line, or who might pose nude next (I picked Wellwood…. I don’t often win bets.) The thing is, though, for me, the most interesting part isn’t always who might go where, or who the Canucks are looking into. No no, for me, the most interesting aspect is sometimes the off ice ramifications. And in the case of Rick Nash, the most interesting aspect of the entire situation would be Rick Nash adjusting from playing in the hockey market of Columbus (“Wait, you wear shoes…..that walk on frozen WATER????”) to a market like Vancouver (“Wait, you switched shampoos….and you didn’t TELL US???”). So please come with me on a journey through my imagination as I predict how Rick Nash’s first meeting with the Canucks PR team would go….

If Rick Nash were traded to Vancouver:

Canucks PR: Hi Rick, we are so excited to have you on board. I really think you’re going to love it here.

Rick Nash: Oh, thank you, thank you very much. I’m still a little rattled to tell you the truth, that trade straight up for Dale Weise came out of left field.

Canucks PR: Oh don’t worry about it Rick, you’ll be fine, we’re going to take good care of you. Now, before we get you all settled in, we have some ground rules to go over with you.

Rick Nash: Ground rules? Oh, like show up for practice 30 minutes early? That sort of thing?

Canucks PR: Oh Rick. Sweet, sweet naive Rick. No no, we have ground rules on how to handle life in the Vancouver market.

Rick Nash: Well what do you mean?

Canucks PR: Well for starters, make sure you throw at least one body check every game. And I mean a nice solid body check. Anybody who is over 6″2 and doesn’t throw a hit on this team gets labelled as a soft player.

Rick Nash: A soft player??

Canucks PR: Yes, a soft player. If you get labelled soft, people will come up with mean nicknames and will make fun of you on Twitter. It’s not pretty. Sure they love you now, but if you don’t start throwing hits tomorrow morning you will wake up to headlines of “Timid Rick at it again” or “Rick Raymond” or “If we kill off Rick Nash does it count against the cap?”

Rick Nash: Geezus, that seems a bit harsh-

Canucks PR: But the good news is, if you throw TWO hits a game, Vancouver will go crazy over you and elevate you to the status of a god. A god. Daughters will be delivered to your doorstep, children will be named after you, and cute amusing nicknames will be made for you on twitter. Picture it Rick, you look at your phone after the game and see the hashtag #RickSMASH plastered all over the place. “RICK SMASH IS UNSTOPPABLE” they’ll say….I get shivers just thinking about it.

Rick Nash: Well I guess, but still, it seems a tad manic-

Canucks PR: The next thing you’ll want to do is make sure to do is shoot the puck a lot. Vancouver fans hate it when you don’t shoot.

Rick Nash: Well that should be fine, I do shoot a lot-

Canucks PR: But don’t shoot too much. If you shoot a lot and keep hitting the goalie, Vancouver fans will start to get annoyed. Make sure you pass the puck around.

Rick Nash: Well part of a balanced attack involves pass-

Canucks PR: But don’t pass too much. If you pass too many times, people will begin to question your scoring. So make sure you shoot and pass at a good level.

Rick Nash: But how will I know what that is?

Canucks PR: Look Rick, do I have to spell it out for you? We’re going to need you to score 50 goals here, alright?

Rick Nash: 50 goals?? But my career high is 40-

Canucks PR: Well you do what you have to do, but if you don’t hit at least 50 goals, people are going to be all over you. Now, when it comes to interacting with your fans, we’re going to have to ask you to say nothing at all to them.

Rick Nash: What? What do you mean?

Canucks PR: Just smile and nod. Don’t say anything that isn’t a cliche. Somebody asks you how your day went, you say “I gave it 110%”. Someone at the coffee shop asks you what you want to order? You say “We have to stick to the gameplan.” Somebody is on the street bleeding from several gun shot wounds?

Rick Nash: Let me guess “We have to keep focused on our long term goals”?

Canucks PR: No, you call 911. Rick, I’m not going to lie, that answer kind of concerns us….

Rick Nash: BUT YOU SA-

Canucks PR: Moving on. Remember, stick to cliches. We have one person on the team that is authorized to give a candid response, and that is Kevin Bieksa. He is the only player allowed to have fun with, or be excited to talk to the media. Your job is to keep it cliched. The last time somebody went off script we had three murders, a drug trafficking ring exposed, and Mike Keenan got hired. I’ll never forgive you Martin Gelinas…..

Rick Nash: Uh….

Canucks PR: Sorry. I lost my train of thought there. Now, what kind of clothes do you wear?

Rick Nash: Just kind of a jeans and a t-shirt guy

Canucks PR: Wrong. You are a “I wear a suit on Friday” kind of guy. This is Vancouver. People will be analyzing your every move. If you wear jeans and a t-shirt, what does that say to the fans? “I don’t care enough about my appearance nor my defensive awareness.” That’s what it says. This is Vancouver Rick. Choices you make in your day to day life will tell you more about your hockey career than you ever thought possible. Did you wear a red shirt on game day? Some blogger will tie that into your recent scoring slump. Did you eat at Denny’s last week? Another blogger will do a formula to show that Denny’s is the source of your power. Nothing you do here goes unnoticed Rick.

Rick Nash: What? Come on, you must be pulling my leg.

Canucks PR: Head and Shoulders: Classic Clean.

Rick Nash: Er…..what did you say?

Canucks PR: Head and Shoulders: Classic Clean. Look at this on twitter Rick-


http://postmediaprovince.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/tweet.jpg


Rick Nash: What?? How??? I don’t-

Canucks PR: It’s ok Rick. We’re going to take care of you. Like I said, you aren’t in Columbus anymore. Welcome to Vancouver, Rick….

Rick Nash: *gently begins to cry*
Canucks PR: There there…..they all cry at first……David Booth cried for 3 hours straight…..let it out…..
And scene.


If the Canucks got Rick Nash…. | The Province (http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/02/14/if-the-canucks-got-rick-nash/)

[6thGear.]

Lol.
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[MG1]

WTH were the canucks GM thinking.. signing a 30year old to a 12 year contract...

The Pasta Connection........


Putting all your eggs into one basket is never a good idea. Then you get a player who is worth his weight in gold, Pavel Bure, and you treat him like shit.

[spoon.ek9]

the advantages of lu's contract are fairly simple:

1. lower cap hit and as mentioned, we all know he won't play till the end of it. 5.33mil cap hit is very reasonable.

2. in the last years, his cap hit is still 5.33 but he only needs to be paid 1.6mil in 3rd last year then 1.0mil for the last 2 years of his contract. this is good for teams trying to get to the cap basement without actually having to pay so much.

3. there are also out clauses for both sides should they decide to part ways.

[SumAznGuy]

the advantages of lu's contract are fairly simple:

1. lower cap hit and as mentioned, we all know he won't play till the end of it. 5.33mil cap hit is very reasonable.

2. in the last years, his cap hit is still 5.33 but he only needs to be paid 1.6mil in 3rd last year then 1.0mil for the last 2 years of his contract. this is good for teams trying to get to the cap basement without actually having to pay so much.

3. there are also out clauses for both sides should they decide to part ways.

And if Lu decides to retire, that is it and everyone walks away happy.

[spoon.ek9]

i also like the fact that no one ever mentions Lu's previous cap hit was $6.75mil with the 4yr contract.

[Ronin]

LOL at people that think a 12-year contract is for 12 years...

[AzNightmare]

Well his previous contract is irrelevant now, so why would anyone talk about it now?

While he won't actually play for 12 years, no one knows exactly how long Lu would play for.
Either way, it's a career long contract, and it's longer than what most fans want now.

Luongo was slightly overrated and Schenider was underrated at the time.
Otherwise, no one would be complaining about the length of his contract now.

[Hondaracer]

There are 12 goalies in the league who make more than Lu, only 2 have been to the finals

Lu fuckin suckksss
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[Tim Budong]

LOLOL

Before we get into why this would be simply wonderful, we yield the floor to Elliotte Friedman to explain why it won't happen:
Look at Vancouver. On the surface, the Canucks are a perfect match. Nash is the kind of player Vancouver would consider trading Cory Schneider for. Add Cody Hodgson, Chris Tanev, maybe another piece and voila, you've got what looks like a pretty fair trade.
Don't think it's going to happen. The Canucks are full of guys who've taken less money -- Kevin Bieksa, Alex Burrows, Ryan Kesler. Heck, the Sedins probably left about $15 million each on the table. It is the organization's philosophy to reward their own, with newcomers like Dan Hamhuis understanding they will not break the bank.
All of this is true. Which naturally makes Nash-to-the-Canucks the greatest thing to hit Vancouver since fire-retardant storefronts.
The idea that Nash would immediately become the team's highest-paid player is delicious. The idea that it would cost them Cory Schneider (in theory), leaving Roberto Luongo to play in (GASP!) tough postseason road games is delicious. The idea that, without Schneider, using the post-CBA amnesty clause on Luongo probably goes out the window … also delicious. The fact that Nash will never, ever live up to the imaginary statistic standards of his salary … delicious catnip for the Vancouver media.
Look, it's not all strife. Nash on a power play with the Sedins could be sick. Nash being a part of a championship-caliber team rather than having to shoulder the load would be a positive thing for his career. Also, the Canucks have never had a No. 61. So that's nice.
For all of these reasons, the Vancouver Canucks getting Rick Nash would be aces for hockey fans.
Or, at the very least, if the Vancouver Canucks were the only other team in the mix when the Blue Jackets trade Nash to Boston, and then had to swallow the bitter pill of watching him dance shirtless with Marchand at another Cup celebration night

[spoon.ek9]

Well his previous contract is irrelevant now, so why would anyone talk about it now?

While he won't actually play for 12 years, no one knows exactly how long Lu would play for.
Either way, it's a career long contract, and it's longer than what most fans want now.

Luongo was slightly overrated and Schenider was underrated at the time.
Otherwise, no one would be complaining about the length of his contract now.

it's relevant because his lower cap hit means the canucks have more room to spend elsewhere (huge trickle down effect). if he were getting $6.75mil for 12yrs, people would be complaining again. but then, people complained because he was getting paid $10mil for a single season despite the cap hit of $5.33mil :facepalm:
so there are whiners either way.

Players and organizations don't sign contracts to please the fans. We have absolutely nothing to do with it in the slightest degree. I like the fact that Lu wants to be here and wants to spend his career playing here.

[Mike Oxbig]

i also like the fact that no one ever mentions Lu's previous cap hit was $6.75mil with the 4yr contract.

he was worth that money when he first came here, making even god damn save possible... now he gives up on second and third tries. :heckno:

[mako]

Did you see his save on Colin Wilson of the Preds last week?
Fan-freakingtastic!!
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[Hondaracer]

he was worth that money when he first came here, making even god damn save possible... now he gives up on second and third tries. :heckno:

your view reflect the skewed views of your typical fan

as long as he's making highlight saves and not getting his team past the first round he's worth every penny

Get to the finals with 2 shutouts? he aint worth 2 mill!

[Mike Oxbig]

^ :heckno:
I live and die with luongo on this team but some people in this thread are just arrogant

relax!

[Great68]

Loose the finals with 2.5 blowouts? he aint worth 2 mill!

Fixed.

:P

[trancehead]

lol press release that Nash is avail and all of a sudden the vancouver media and their fans goes nuts

relax guys. yes it is fun to armchair GM but some guys take this shit too seriously.

[Hondaracer]

Fixed.

:P

blowouts, although can be viewed on Lu, have been a team thing for a while now

I know it doesnt give you confidence when you give up 2 quick goals back to back and you get back on your heels, but blowouts the way the nucks do them is a team mentality, once they get down those 3 goals they basically throw in the towel

[Great68]

blowouts, although can be viewed on Lu, have been a team thing for a while now

I know it doesnt give you confidence when you give up 2 quick goals back to back and you get back on your heels, but blowouts the way the nucks do them is a team mentality, once they get down those 3 goals they basically throw in the towel

So shutouts woudn't be attributable to the whole team's good defensive play for those games?

[Hondaracer]

I didn't say it wasn't, but it goes both ways, neither are 100% on goalie or skaters IMO
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[RRxtar]

You guys realize Luongo put up the best numbers of his CAREER in 2010-2011? Best GAA and second best save%

from 06-07 to 09-10 his save% went .921, .917, .920, .913. last year it was .928.

how the fuck was he playing better BEFORE?! smh

and for reference. this year hes playing .920

[Tim Budong]

You guys realize Luongo put up the best numbers of his CAREER in 2010-2011? Best GAA and second best save%

from 06-07 to 09-10 his save% went .921, .917, .920, .913. last year it was .928.

how the fuck was he playing better BEFORE?! smh

becuz Luongo never gets the credit he deserves for a great game. Its why the numbers game gets passed up.

I will say this again.
I couldnt care how great or shitty luongo is.
come post season. just be good. he can make 10mil or 1mil. just be good

[Durrann]

Tonight's game televised Sports net 1?
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[DanHibiki]

You guys realize Luongo put up the best numbers of his CAREER in 2010-2011? Best GAA and second best save%

from 06-07 to 09-10 his save% went .921, .917, .920, .913. last year it was .928.

how the fuck was he playing better BEFORE?! smh

and for reference. this year hes playing .920

I think they mean he was playing better before because we had a much shittier team before. 06-07's success was mostly because of Lu's play where as 10-11 was a team effort.

[Kilinim]

Tonight's game televised Sports net 1?
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Nope, SnetP
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[Renthal]

watching the boston montreal game.. marchand got called for clipping again, somewhat similar to the salo hit but more of a hipcheck, then subban just about destroyed him when he was skating with his head down..
cmon subban!

[TouringTeg]

go habs! Ties it up on chara giveaway
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[DanHibiki]

Why were the fans chanting olé olé when they tied the game?
:suspicious:
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[RRxtar]

they chant that every time they score

[civicyvr]

Game time. Let's rock boys! Maybe start off with a quick scrap for shits and giggle.

Also, what's the payout if it goes to a shootout again. Haha.

[civicyvr]

Wow. Nice start by Booth!!!!!!!

[DsZ24]

BOOTH 13 seconds in wooooooo

[EmperorIS]

what.

[Durrann]

Did not expect that to go in!
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[604778]

Woooo! Booth.
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[MG1]

Holy fak, that was fast.... 13 secs.

[SumAznGuy]

Booth!!!!
13 seconds in

[MG1]

I hate Montreal so much............. but............ Boston............. ugh........... it's a toss up.

[spoon.ek9]

:awwyeah: BOOTH!

[TheKingdom2000]

Chara get's hit in the face with the puck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlDS3Qj2oxs&feature=g-u-u&context=G21a0859FUAAAAAAAAAA

[civicyvr]

Shit gotta head out for dinner. Hope they have TV's there!

[MG1]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/BITZ.jpg

[spoon.ek9]

super laggy feed tonight :/

[TheKingdom2000]

super laggy feed tonight :/

Are you on sortsall? if so, possible explanation is because he's not home. He's on the road he said. So maybe that's why

[spoon.ek9]

wait... :suspicious:

giguere got pulled?

i totally missed that

edit: nvm, giguere has a groin strain

[Vansterdam]

lol fuck shouldof went with shawn to get booths autograph

[Mike Oxbig]

lol fuck shouldof went with shawn to get booths autograph

shawns banned and probably lurking with a new account

[cliffhanger33]

luu

[MR_BIGGS]

Shit

[spoon.ek9]

damn, great patience on that play.

[cliffhanger33]

unfortunate

[spoon.ek9]

fucking SOB

[EmperorIS]

PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING PASSING

[cliffhanger33]

almost had the lead

[VooDood]

please win in regulation =/

[spoon.ek9]

Hansen!

[DsZ24]

HANSEN, beauty of a pass by coho

[satek]

hansen!!!!

[AzNightmare]

WOW what a goal

[604778]

Wooo! Hasen!
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[MR_BIGGS]

Hansen with the 1 timer

[dL]

COHO FTW! HANSEN BLAST BOOM!!

dL
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[vyrospec]

Hell Yes, the Great Dane

[604778]

Monster!
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[dL]

BURROWS IS A MONSTER!!

dL
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[satek]

monster!!!!

[DsZ24]

BURROWS IS A MONSTER empty netter

finally we can win by more than a goal

[AzNightmare]

lol, 2 on 0 breakaway on that empty net.
Race for who's gonna score hahah

[604778]

Win!!
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[satek]

winnnnnn gg

[AzNightmare]

WIN!!!!!! YEAY!!!!!

[spoon.ek9]

woot woot woot gg!

[b0unce. [?]]

good game!

booth back on a track (hopefully)
coho still on fire.
hansen with a sick goal.
higgins is all class, starts the play and gives burr the empty netter.
props to lu for a solid game.

[cliffhanger33]

booth three game streak!

[civicyvr]

Just back and checked the highlights. Pretty solid game by the team and nice to see it wrapped up without a shootout. Just keep on rolling boys.

Sat Laffs game should be awesome!

[Not really racist!]

Edler had a monster game today, who woulda known.. Sedins pointless for three straight games and we still find a way to win games.. haha

Booth is on a nice little streak right now, as is Kesler

[DanHibiki]

CoHo: I'm on the 4th line AGAIN!?!?!

:fuckthatshit:

Gets a point

[TheKingdom2000]

in shoot out withdrawal

[b0unce. [?]]

Edler had a monster game today, who woulda known.. Sedins pointless for three straight games and we still find a way to win games.. haha

Booth is on a nice little streak right now, as is Kesler

yep. edler got something like 8 hits, 4 blocked shots and 3+ shots on net i think. beast game.

[cliffhanger33]

Loved it when Bitz took McLeod down first time but was unsatisfied with it, lets McLeod get back up so that he can finish him up properly.

Cody McLeod vs Byron Bitz Feb 15, 2012 - YouTube

[Blah_Teggie]

Anybody wanna guess how many games Marchand will get for tonights clip? I'll say min 3 since he's a repeat offender.

[lilaznviper]

Anybody wanna guess how many games Marchand will get for tonights clip? I'll say min 3 since he's a repeat offender.

He will probably say he was trying to protect himself from a hit... its probably going to be no games

[Mike Oxbig]

1 game

[sindragon]

1 game

repeat offender with the same incident *clipping* and u give him 1? :rukidding:

[SolidPenguin]

He will probably say he was trying to protect himself from a hit... its probably going to be no games

You're not protecting yourself from a hit on a forecheck, and you are the one throwing a hit. He needs AT LEAST 3, up to 5.

[kwy]

Ban that dirty fucker forever.

[EvoFire]

Highlights are up!

Canucks vs. Avalanche 2/15/2012 - YouTube

[winson604]

;7798258']yep. edler got something like 8 hits, 4 blocked shots and 3+ shots on net i think. beast game.

All 3 shots came on one sequence during the 1st it was pretty funny watching it and the crowd was getting into it too. Looked like a fucking shooting range on JSG.

[Vansterdam]

1-3 games

[spoon.ek9]

did u guys hear that rat's comments on the MTL fans? apparently they cheered when Chara got hit in the face with the puck and he said that's an embarassment. He also said that everyone needs to be concerned with player safety :rukidding:

such a fucking hypocrite.

[AzNightmare]

after that chara hit on max pacioretty last season,
I wouldn't be surprise if montreal fans were unclassy and happy something bad happened to chara
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[fliptuner]

Can you believe we're only 3 points behind from this time last year? And we're not even firing on all cylinders yet.

Feels good.

[RRxtar]

didnt see it posted.

Brad Marchand Dirty Hit On Alexei Emelin - 02/15/2012 - YouTube

[spoon.ek9]

after that chara hit on max pacioretty last season,
I wouldn't be surprise if montreal fans were unclassy and happy something bad happened to chara
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Exactly! But of course rat boy would never bring that up
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[Gumby]

Haha Darren Dreger was asked about Marchand's possible suspension, and he said that he would be surprised if Marchand would get suspended, but he wouldn't be surprised if Marchand got a fine. But Marchand is now totally on the radar, and (in Dreger's own words) "If you so much as sneeze with that schnoz, you're getting a 3 game suspension". :lol

[highfive]

Shanahan Twitter

Like all penalties on the ice, not all "clips" rise to the level of supplemental discipline. This check by Marchand was delivered to the upper thigh/hip and not the knee area. We don't like it, but not SD.

It sucks not to see ratboy get suspended but he is a dirty fuck. AV is right, somebody is going to make him pay one day.

[kwy]

Bring back Brashear. He'll git r done.

[trancehead]

Wow Shanny is opening up pandoras box
i hope he considered that it was a clip on a forecheck. otherwise, every player could do this now by precedence

just as how lucic wasnt suspended on his hit on Miller. Goalies are fair game?

[RRxtar]

anyone else think this trade deadline is going to fizzle and not have much going on? ive been saying it for a month and its funny seeing how much TSN and sportsnet are pumping it up.

i kinda miss the old days where you sit in front of TSN all day with new shit coming in constantly and theres like 10 blockbuster trades and every team makes 2 or 3 moves at least.

when sportsnet did the trade deadline pizza party tho, that was a low point in sports broadcasting. ill never forget nick kipreos shoving half a pizza into his mouth on camera close up and saying "mmmmmm". lol

[CPE]

Maybe they'll have a McDonalds party this year since they seem to be pushing McCafe.

[Gh0stRider]

Columbus Blue Jackets right winger Rick Nash has announced the list of teams he would be willing to waive his no-trade clause to go to, according to the Columbus Dispatch.
The list includes the Boston Bruins, San Jose Sharks, New York Rangers, Los Angeles Kings, and Toronto Maple Leafs.
Earlier in the week the Blue Jackets announced their former first-overall draft pick was on the trading block. Nash has posted 527 points (277 goals, 250 assists) in 649 career games with the franchise.
In 2009 the Blue Jackets signed Nash to an eight-year contract extension worth $62.4 million, effective through the 2017-18 season.

[spideyv2]

Lol what happened to the nucks ;)
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[spoon.ek9]

please go to toronto :troll:

[RRxtar]

something a lot of people don't understand is how cap space works as the season progresses. if you acquire a player at the trade deadline, you only assume the % of the season remaining of the cap hit. so roughly 23% i think. plus long term injury reserve money available as well. this means that expensive players with expiring contracts at the end of the season can be picked up easily as you only need to fit their partial cap hit into this years cap, not the full salary next year

the canucks have about 50,000 of cap room on the year, but at the trade deadline they will be able to absorb a $1.4million salary.

boston has $2.8million in cap space on the year which translates into a salary of $13.2million.

colorado could pick up $67million worth of salaries.

[Gh0stRider]

pretty sure they didn't list all the teams he's interested in

[AzNightmare]

Guess CBJ is so bad, he would even be willing to go to Toronto.

[Mike Oxbig]

Please go Toronto, so i can watch rick nash and not the maple leafs on saturday during HNIC!

Im sure burke will blow up the team just to aquire nash anyways.

[Gh0stRider]

Guess CBJ is so bad, he would even be willing to go to Toronto.

he's from that area IIRC

Damien Cox of the Toronto Star wrote that Nash would be a nice fit for the Maple Leafs, but it would be a tough deal to make because of salary cap concerns and whether or not Toronto has the assets (and GM Brian Burke has to be willing to move them) to make the deal.

For the Leafs to be involved, names like Nazem Kadri, Joe Colborne and Luke Schenn are sure to come up. Maybe Mikhail Grabovski as well, especially to help make the finances work.



via tsn

While the Jackets would ask each club for a different return, the team reportedly wants a young roster player, along with some combination of high-end prospects and draft picks.

[7seven]

pretty sure they didn't list all the teams he's interested in

Yea, the list I've heard also has Vancouver, Florida and Ottawa.

Guess CBJ is so bad, he would even be willing to go to Toronto.

Well Nash is from the Toronto area and his family and friends live there, reason why Ottawa likely on his list too.

[pure.life]

Please go Toronto, so i can watch rick nash and not the maple leafs on saturday during HNIC!

Im sure burke will blow up the team just to aquire nash anyways.

Probably all the draft picks he has remaining for the next 3 years

[Mike Oxbig]

As much as we all hate the leafs, its best for Canada to aquire one of their national treasures back home. Which is why its worth the shot the leafs grabbing nash with everything they got besides kessel and lupul. Riemer and monster will be in play since cbj needs a goalie.

East coast express? Playing with 1 top line solid D and duo goaltending will draw enough fans to boost cbc rating :troll:

[hotshot1]

Please, please, send his 7.8 million cap hit for 70 points and weak defense to Toronto.

[dbaz]

trade: [PHI/DAL] Nicklas Grossman(DAL) to PHI for '12 2nd (LA) and '13 3rd (MIN)

[Simulated]

did u guys hear that rat's comments on the MTL fans? apparently they cheered when Chara got hit in the face with the puck and he said that's an embarassment. He also said that everyone needs to be concerned with player safety :rukidding:

such a fucking hypocrite.

lol... bruin fans are notorious for cheering on injuries anyway.

[dbaz]

another trade: [SJ/TB] Dominic Moore and 7th Round Pick(TB) to San Jose for 2nd(MIN)

[InvisibleSoul]

LoL, without Lundqvist in net, the Rangers were down 4-0 not even halfway through the first period.

[b0unce. [?]]

I'm pretty sure that he'll go to NY:R

[CRS]

LoL, without Lundqvist in net, the Rangers were down 4-0 not even halfway through the first period.

This helps out my pool quite a bit.

Toews with 2 points already.

But I imagine that they would be putting him to replace biron to start the second if they want any hope of winning the game.

[Tim Budong]

Something tells me CBJ will get raped on the deal.. just like the Flames have with Celine Dion

The only decent high profile trade that saw results is the TOR/BOS trade with Kessel
ugh

[Gh0stRider]

Claude Giroux beast mode
Assists: 5

[Greenstoner]

meet and greet today


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[Ronin]

I'm thinking Nash goes to LA. They have the assets that Columbus could use, workable cap space and they've got two good centers that Nash could play with.

That's bad news...if the Canucks finish 2nd, big chance they could get LA in the 1st round. Do you really want to play Nash, Kopitar, Brown, Richards and co with Quick in net? I've been hoping all year we get Phoenix, Calgary or Dallas so we could have a relatively easier first round.

[spoon.ek9]

I would be very concerned if LA lands Nash. The Canucks would probably still win, but it would be a friggin tough series.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Lets hope TO lands Nash then. Knowing Brian Burke hes not gonna be shy about selling the future off to land a guy like him. IMO having a bunch of draft picks and prospects is alil overrated unless you plan on being at the bottom of the league for a couple years to stock up on top 5 draft picks like the Pens(Crosby, Malkin, Stall, Fleury) and Chicago(Kane,Toews) and look what happened to them.

[jeedee]

As much as I'd love to have Nash on the team, he'd completely screw over the cap structure Gilman and Gillis worked on. Having a guy on the team with a 7.8 cap hit making more than guys that have all taken discounts? No thanks. He'd also make resigning Burrows, Edler, Hodgson etc difficult in the future.

[TRDood]

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WHAT THE FUCK HOW COME I DIDN'T KNOW THIS?!

I want my Lappy jersey signed. :rukidding::alone:

[skiiipi]

Hey Guys I got "unofficial" source (but reliable) that Manny Malhotra will be at Sportchek Pacific Centre tomorrow from 330-530pm, doing what's called "Undercover Pro", its a Sportchek/NHL marketing initiative where they have a NHL pro "working the floor" in Sportchek.
There will be autograph/picture opportunities as soon as he is "spotted" by public.
I don't know details as they kept it pretty hush hush, but I managed to get some info on it, so I thought I'd share it with RS
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[Blah_Teggie]

I'm thinking Nash goes to LA. They have the assets that Columbus could use, workable cap space and they've got two good centers that Nash could play with.

That's bad news...if the Canucks finish 2nd, big chance they could get LA in the 1st round. Do you really want to play Nash, Kopitar, Brown, Richards and co with Quick in net? I've been hoping all year we get Phoenix, Calgary or Dallas so we could have a relatively easier first round.

Really? You're making it sound like the Kings are a lock to even make the playoffs. This is a team who's sitting in 8th. A team that has the leagues shittiest offence. A team that's been shut out SEVEN times in 58 games. A team that needed to "cheat" to be CBJ at home. Even if they get Nash, the ONLY ONLY way the Kings even come close to beating the Canucks is if Quick absolutely stands on his head and steals 4 games for them. If Calgary can get hot, the Kings are done.

[Mike Oxbig]

you know the canucks will do something for the city when they have 2 days off at home :)

[UFO]

As much as I'd love to have Nash on the team, he'd completely screw over the cap structure Gilman and Gillis worked on. Having a guy on the team with a 7.8 cap hit making more than guys that have all taken discounts? No thanks. He'd also make resigning Burrows, Edler, Hodgson etc difficult in the future.

Agree about the Canucks current cap structure too difficult to work with.

BUT, players are smarter than we give them credit for. The current core group knows that their best chance to go for a deep run is this season and likely next season. Beyond that, there is a ton of uncertainty with our team as it stands. Players that took a hometown discount believe in the direction of management and the team and thought we have the best chance of bringing them a cup. The players know what a player like Nash brings to the table, and if it gives them a better chance of winning the cup, they're egos aren't going to be hurt by taking a .5-1M discount; its not like the Canucks offered him that contract after lowballing their own players.

There are certainly Nash haters, but I've been rewatching some of the Olympic games the last little while and he was an absolute monster for Team Canada playing with decent players in games that count for something. I think people underestimate how bad Columbus actually is... they can make the Flames look good.

The only way a GM like MG is going to make this trade, however unlikely, is based solely on giving us a better chance at a cup than we currently have. We don't need a franchise player to bring ppl into the rink and to sell tickets.

[kwy]

Going to the game on sat, hope it's a good one.

[EmperorIS]

Boston Bruins Milan Lucic's church vandalized (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Boston+Bruins+Milan+Lucic+church+vandalized/6166434/story.html)

[kwy]

Fuck people that are making us look bad.

[AzNightmare]

Boston Bruins Milan Lucic's church vandalized (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Boston+Bruins+Milan+Lucic+church+vandalized/6166434/story.html)

pretty stupid. There's a fine line of hating a Bruin and just being stupid.

[jeedee]

The only way a GM like MG is going to make this trade, however unlikely, is based solely on giving us a better chance at a cup than we currently have. We don't need a franchise player to bring ppl into the rink and to sell tickets.

Solid post. The cards are really in MG's hands. Columbus DESPERATELY need a goalie and I see either LA or Vancouver as the top contenders for Nash. I'm positive CLB would rather have a proven Cory Schneider than a rushed goalie like Bernier.

But if we're going to get a guy with a caphit of 7.8M, I rather have Weber [yes him lol] than Nash. The Canucks current priorities should be:

1. Top 4 Right Side Defenseman [To replace Salo, Tanev is a big question mark]
2. Bottom 6 Forward
3. Top 6 Forward
4. Backup Goalie [Schneider isn't going to be here forever]

[spideyv2]

Weber > Nash for days
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[tonyzoomzoom]

we need depth, not a franchise player

[punkwax]

Guys, Nash ain't coming. Just let it go...

[Eastwood]

LA will get him. Jack Johnson will be a CBJ.

[Hondaracer]

Getting weber would be more likely than Nash..
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[Blah_Teggie]

I would be very concerned if LA lands Nash. The Canucks would probably still win, but it would be a friggin tough series.

The only team I'd be concerned with playing in the first round would be the Ducks if they somehow managed to get in. But we all know we're getting the Hawks. It just wouldn't be Canucks playoff hockey without a series against the Hawks. Might as well get it over with early.

[Not really racist!]

Playoffs is a whole different game boys....Kings will get it together before the playoffs

[Tim Budong]

This statement says it best on why Nash trade wont happen based on team morale.
For once, I can agree with a CBC panelist

It is the organization's philosophy to reward their own, with newcomers like Dan Hamhuis understanding they will not break the bank.

of course, with the exception of RobertoLuongo, guys like Burrows, Edler and the twins have accepted this.

Teams such as Detroit also build their core from WITHIN the organization, and with good management on young prospects, a breakout prospect could be on the horizons.

I will admit I love drooling over the possibility of Nash/Kesler/Booth on a line. It aint happening.

And as Ronin says, The Kings have the most flexibility on cap management for that big 7.8m hit. In terms of what they can offer back, it is yet to be seen, but JackJohnson will be the center piece going back to CBJ.

[spideyv2]

Canadiens acquire B. Geoffrion, R. Slaney, and 2nd round draft pick in 2012 from NSH for H. Gill and a conditional 5th round pick in 2013

Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/canadiensmtl)

insurance for Weber and/or Suter?

[Expresso]

Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/canadiensmtl)

insurance for Weber and/or Suter?

Gill is going to be an UFA, not much insurance. Unless you are talking about injuries or something.

[7seven]

Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/canadiensmtl)

insurance for Weber and/or Suter?

I doubt it, Nashville are buyers this year looking to make a deep run shoring up depth.

Awesome, Boom Boom's grandson will now play for his grandfathers old team

[Tim Budong]

depth move
i cant see the preds moving either defenseman tbh b4 the seasons out

[dbaz]

Interested to see what the canucks do because they can still put volpatti, ebbett and ballard on ltir for their injuries.
Id think la has the upper hand with nash, and doubt the canucks even consider him. LA has tons of prospects to over pay with. Jack Johnson and Jonathan Bernier with most likely two of the following..
Andrei Loktionov(C ) Slava Voynov(D) Tyler Toffoli(RW)
Derek Forbort(D) Nicolas Deslauriers(D) Jake Muzzin(D) Thomas Hickey(D)

[highfive]

Conditional 5th is if Geoffrion plays more than 50 games next season.

But still...Gill for a 2nd Rounder and prospects?

I doubt Nash will end up anywhere at all. Listening to 1040, Gillis was right, it's hard to move such a big contract during the season. During the offseason, teams are has an additional 10% cushion.

[dbaz]

gill is a good pick up. blocks a lot of shots, can clear the front of the net easily. combine that with rinne.. makes them a lot better.

[CRS]

I would rather hold onto Schneider and see what is offered on draft day.

Seems like a long stretch but I'm really hoping to fetch 1st overall.

[SumAznGuy]

I doubt it, Nashville are buyers this year looking to make a deep run shoring up depth.

Awesome, Boom Boom's grandson will now play for his grandfathers old team

Talk about hockey running in the family.

Canadiens acquire Geoffrion from Predators in trade for Gill (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=388101)

Blake Geoffrion - son of former Canadien Danny Geoffrion, grandson of Habs great Bernie Geoffrion and great-grandson of Montreal legend Howie Morenz.

[Mike Oxbig]

Can we fetch connolly for schneider?

[civicyvr]

Really? You're making it sound like the Kings are a lock to even make the playoffs. This is a team who's sitting in 8th. A team that has the leagues shittiest offence. A team that's been shut out SEVEN times in 58 games. A team that needed to "cheat" to be CBJ at home. Even if they get Nash, the ONLY ONLY way the Kings even come close to beating the Canucks is if Quick absolutely stands on his head and steals 4 games for them. If Calgary can get hot, the Kings are done.

Haha. And why would they not if they land Nash to improve their shittiest offence as you say. They are currently 8th but tied in pts due to Phoenix having more wins. Even if Calgary gets hot I can see them making the playoffs and Phoenix dropping off.

[spideyv2]

Can we fetch connolly for schneider?

Wtf would u do that? We dont need anymore soft, fragile forwards
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[civicyvr]

I'm thinking Nash goes to LA. They have the assets that Columbus could use, workable cap space and they've got two good centers that Nash could play with.

That's bad news...if the Canucks finish 2nd, big chance they could get LA in the 1st round. Do you really want to play Nash, Kopitar, Brown, Richards and co with Quick in net? I've been hoping all year we get Phoenix, Calgary or Dallas so we could have a relatively easier first round.

Exactly.

Interested to see what the canucks do because they can still put volpatti, ebbett and ballard on ltir for their injuries.
Id think la has the upper hand with nash, and doubt the canucks even consider him. LA has tons of prospects to over pay with. Jack Johnson and Jonathan Bernier with most likely two of the following..
Andrei Loktionov(C ) Slava Voynov(D) Tyler Toffoli(RW)
Derek Forbort(D) Nicolas Deslauriers(D) Jake Muzzin(D) Thomas Hickey(D)

Yeah, what I didn't want to see if it happens. Just makes thing tougher in the playoffs.

[civicyvr]

gill is a good pick up. blocks a lot of shots, can clear the front of the net easily. combine that with rinne.. makes them a lot better.

He's the type of D you need to make it through the playoffs. Good pick up for the Preds.

[7seven]

Wtf would u do that? We dont need anymore soft, fragile forwards
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I believe he's referring to Brett, not Tim

[SumAznGuy]

NHL (http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/#clip621594)

Last night's game between the Stars and Flames.

Mike Ribero with a no look back pass to Ott for a one timer.
Sick sick move to score the GWG in OT.
Big big hit on Cammalleri by Mark Fistric.
Poor Jamie Benn getting cut in the leg delivering a hit on Giordano.

[Greenstoner]

Hey Guys I got "unofficial" source (but reliable) that Manny Malhotra will be at Sportchek Pacific Centre tomorrow from 330-530pm, doing what's called "Undercover Pro", its a Sportchek/NHL marketing initiative where they have a NHL pro "working the floor" in Sportchek.
There will be autograph/picture opportunities as soon as he is "spotted" by public.
I don't know details as they kept it pretty hush hush, but I managed to get some info on it, so I thought I'd share it with RS
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Anybody going? I should b there in 15 mins
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[skiiipi]

Anybody going? I should b there in 15 mins
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I just got confirmation that this is happening btw
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[winson604]

Haha. And why would they not if they land Nash to improve their shittiest offence as you say. They are currently 8th but tied in pts due to Phoenix having more wins. Even if Calgary gets hot I can see them making the playoffs and Phoenix dropping off.

Adding a great player never guarantees anything and in fact sometimes it makes things worse. Yes, their offence will probably improve but that doesn't mean they will make the playoffs. LA added Ricahrds in the offseason and yes they lost some players the otherway but they got worse. CBJ added Richards and they got worse. Heck CBJ was bad enough who would have thought they would be even shittier with Richards added to their team. Plus the fact that it's so tight around that 8 spot that anything can happen and yes that means LA missing the playoffs with Nash on their team is a real possibility.

Anyone remember Colorado adding Selanne and PK? Colorodo was already a decent team at the time and that did them no good either.

[Greenstoner]

I just got confirmation that this is happening btw
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Didn't see him
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[TRDood]

Didn't see him
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Isn't it suppose to start at 330?
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[LSF22]

Adding a great player never guarantees anything and in fact sometimes it makes things worse. Yes, their offence will probably improve but that doesn't mean they will make the playoffs. LA added Ricahrds in the offseason and yes they lost some players the otherway but they got worse. CBJ added Richards and they got worse. Heck CBJ was bad enough who would have thought they would be even shittier with Richards added to their team. Plus the fact that it's so tight around that 8 spot that anything can happen and yes that means LA missing the playoffs with Nash on their team is a real possibility.

Anyone remember Colorado adding Selanne and PK? Colorodo was already a decent team at the time and that did them no good either.


:fulloffuck::fulloffuck::facepalm:

Are we talking bout Carter?

[skiiipi]

Isn't it suppose to start at 330?
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Yes 330-530 is when its suppose to happen
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[Greenstoner]

Isn't it suppose to start at 330?
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O shit I read it wrong, I thought it was " happening"
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[skiiipi]

O shit I read it wrong, I thought it was " happening"
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Sorry I just meant that its confirmed that he'll be there
Vs last night it was "unconfirmed" but most likely
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[jing]

Think I saw coho at bluewater cafe last night but not sure if it was him or his doppelgänger
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[sonick]

Think I saw coho at bluewater cafe last night but not sure if it was him or his doppelgänger
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Is Liev Schreiber in town?

[Gumby]

Is Liev Schreiber in town?
Woah, never realized it, but damn they do look alike!

[kwy]

Wait til playoff beard time.

[SumAznGuy]

Jannik Hansen is at the Grandview Rona between 5 and 6 pm.

[Greenstoner]

Was told Manny will do the signing at 5 , he is gonna do a short flim for now
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[TRDood]

Anymore signings? Like Lappierre? :alone:
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[Greenstoner]

Lappierre was a meet and greet contest on twitter, I was brought in by my friend
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[Greenstoner]

Lol he is here
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[Mike Oxbig]

I can see bieksa (rona) or edler (best buy)for next signings...
Coho already did it at team store start of the season. Pretty much the whole team have done signings except for
Sedins and luongo will never do public signings.
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[jeedee]

Henrik did a signing earlier this year at the Metrotown Rogers.

It's now just Danny and Lu :lol

[Gh0stRider]

http://www.theprovince.com/news/6169862.bin

oh come on


idiot can't even spell "canucks" right

[tonyzoomzoom]

^^^ stupid stupid vandals - keep giving Vancouverites a bad name...

on a different note, if LA does get Nash, I hope they gut their core in the process (beyond Johnson, Bernier and prospects).

[civicyvr]

Adding a great player never guarantees anything and in fact sometimes it makes things worse. Yes, their offence will probably improve but that doesn't mean they will make the playoffs. LA added Ricahrds in the offseason and yes they lost some players the otherway but they got worse. CBJ added Richards and they got worse. Heck CBJ was bad enough who would have thought they would be even shittier with Richards added to their team. Plus the fact that it's so tight around that 8 spot that anything can happen and yes that means LA missing the playoffs with Nash on their team is a real possibility.

Anyone remember Colorado adding Selanne and PK? Colorodo was already a decent team at the time and that did them no good either.

Yes, trades never guarantees anything but come on. Comparing Nash to Richards and I assume you mean Carter is laughable.

If Nash is in LA, is it possible they will miss the playoffs? Yes, probable, no unless they get fleeced in the trade.

And if that bum Penner ever decides to play hard, watch out.

[kwy]

Penner needs to get out of LA. Too bad his value is questionable at this point.

[Mike Oxbig]

Ducks should trade ryan then unite the ppg line again when penner is ufa :troll:
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[Greenstoner]

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac306/cyy11/402086_10151295425065494_869600493_23002313_103471 5329_n.jpg

[skiiipi]

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac306/cyy11/402086_10151295425065494_869600493_23002313_103471 5329_n.jpg

Sweet to see Manny in a Chek uniform!
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[skiiipi]

He probably made more $ for that 1 shift than I make in a year!
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[!YaoShi]

Was there alot of people?

[Greenstoner]

Was there alot of people?

nope, i would say 20 ~30 max during the time i was there (2 and half hr)

[spideyv2]

haha jets beat the bruins

[Hondaracer]

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac306/cyy11/402086_10151295425065494_869600493_23002313_103471 5329_n.jpg

he's probbaly more effective working the shoe wall than the ice

[Blah_Teggie]

Sorry, more on Rick Nash. I'll be very surprised if he gets dealt at the trade deadline. Lots to consider. A) he's just not worth the 7.5 million a year. B) the team that acquires him are gonna fuck themselves over for the next 5 years cuz of the prospects, and or draft picks and or roster players they have to give up. Dunno if any team is willing to do that. C) there could be better guys (IE Parise) that might be available on July 1st and you don't have to give up anything. And D) prolly the most important thing for Howson to consider is, are the guys they're getting back actually wanna play in Columbus? The last thing they need is another Jeff Carter situation where they player don't wanna be there. I really don't think many NHLers say "I would love to play in Columbus!" So therefore, I'm guessing Nash stays exactly where he is.

[DanHibiki]

Trade deadline is as exciting as they used to be. Too many teams adopting the Detroit method and value 2nd/3rd round picks more now.

[winson604]

Yes, trades never guarantees anything but come on. Comparing Nash to Richards and I assume you mean Carter is laughable.

If Nash is in LA, is it possible they will miss the playoffs? Yes, probable, no unless they get fleeced in the trade.

And if that bum Penner ever decides to play hard, watch out.

haha oops yes i meant Carter. I'm not saying Carter and Richards are 100% on par with Nash but my point is in sports it's possible and quite often likely things don't work out the way you expect. Chemistry is an odd thing.

[b0unce. [?]]

Sorry, more on Rick Nash. I'll be very surprised if he gets dealt at the trade deadline. Lots to consider. A) he's just not worth the 7.5 million a year. B) the team that acquires him are gonna fuck themselves over for the next 5 years cuz of the prospects, and or draft picks and or roster players they have to give up. Dunno if any team is willing to do that. C) there could be better guys (IE Parise) that might be available on July 1st and you don't have to give up anything. And D) prolly the most important thing for Howson to consider is, are the guys they're getting back actually wanna play in Columbus? The last thing they need is another Jeff Carter situation where they player don't wanna be there. I really don't think many NHLers say "I would love to play in Columbus!" So therefore, I'm guessing Nash stays exactly where he is.

I guess NJ definitely got a good bang for their buck with Kovalchuk.
I think it's pretty impressive he puts up 60~ points playing in Columbus the last 6 years (i think. before carter arrived) doing it more or less by himself.
Since this is Gomez's worst season in his career it's been the talk lately. I remember Gomez signing a 10M contract before? (without taking cap hit into consideration, just straight pay cheque numbers) Would you say that's worth it? On average i'm pretty sure Nash puts more points up than Gomez and gets paid less. Nash's contribution for team Canada is pretty solid proof he's a legit player. Yeah, I'm keeping in mind that team Canada's roster is stacked with all-stars.

You're right though, teams are going to fuck themselves to in order to acquire high profile players. But that's the nature of any sport. First thing I thought of when NJ signed Kovalchuk was "Cool, now they can pretty much write off Parise."

Aside from the physical size and weight difference, they are about the same age i think, and stats are both roughly a pt per game. Sure you might not have to give up assets to sign Parise, but he's due for a huge pay raise anywhere he signs. IIRC he's sitting around 6M atm, I'm betting he'll sign at 8M roughly.

I'm not trying to say Nash is the best player available or that he's better than Parise, lets not get it twisted. I personally believe if given the chance to play with a couple solid guys, he can put up an additional 20 points. I have no idea why Carter and Nash aren't doing well there. Maybe chemistry sucks with them.

People a few pages back have already stated playing in Columbus isn't the shittiest place in the market. I mean from a fan POV, I viewed FL as one of the worst places to play until you factor in stuff like: nice weather, media wont harass you, in general a nice place to live. Sure the team does shitty, but I think it only takes a few players to commit and move to a shitty team to start attracting other players. It was a bit surprising but at the same time is wasn't when Campbell signed with the Panthers. I thought he was going to go to a cup contending team, but he went with the Panthers, basically the polar opposite of that. This year they are doing pretty fucking well.

/rant

[UFO]

Gomez is on fire! No goals in 365+ days, 2 goals in less than 10 days!

[jeedee]

;7800379'] It was a bit surprising but at the same time is wasn't when Campbell signed with the Panthers. I thought he was going to go to a cup contending team, but he went with the Panthers, basically the polar opposite of that. This year they are doing pretty fucking well.

/rant

IIRC Campbell got traded to the Panthers, not signed. But continue :p

[Blah_Teggie]

;7800379']I guess NJ definitely got a good bang for their buck with Kovalchuk.
I think it's pretty impressive he puts up 60~ points playing in Columbus the last 6 years (i think. before carter arrived) doing it more or less by himself.
Since this is Gomez's worst season in his career it's been the talk lately. I remember Gomez signing a 10M contract before? (without taking cap hit into consideration, just straight pay cheque numbers) Would you say that's worth it? On average i'm pretty sure Nash puts more points up than Gomez and gets paid less. Nash's contribution for team Canada is pretty solid proof he's a legit player. Yeah, I'm keeping in mind that team Canada's roster is stacked with all-stars.

You're right though, teams are going to fuck themselves to in order to acquire high profile players. But that's the nature of any sport. First thing I thought of when NJ signed Kovalchuk was "Cool, now they can pretty much write off Parise."

Aside from the physical size and weight difference, they are about the same age i think, and stats are both roughly a pt per game. Sure you might not have to give up assets to sign Parise, but he's due for a huge pay raise anywhere he signs. IIRC he's sitting around 6M atm, I'm betting he'll sign at 8M roughly.

I'm not trying to say Nash is the best player available or that he's better than Parise, lets not get it twisted. I personally believe if given the chance to play with a couple solid guys, he can put up an additional 20 points. I have no idea why Carter and Nash aren't doing well there. Maybe chemistry sucks with them.

People a few pages back have already stated playing in Columbus isn't the shittiest place in the market. I mean from a fan POV, I viewed FL as one of the worst places to play until you factor in stuff like: nice weather, media wont harass you, in general a nice place to live. Sure the team does shitty, but I think it only takes a few players to commit and move to a shitty team to start attracting other players. It was a bit surprising but at the same time is wasn't when Campbell signed with the Panthers. I thought he was going to go to a cup contending team, but he went with the Panthers, basically the polar opposite of that. This year they are doing pretty fucking well.

/rant

I don't quite follow what you're trying to say but I'll try my best to respond. About the Kovalchuk signing. Kovy got that money cuz he's scored 40 goals or more 5 times and twice went over 50. Kovy has also twice hit 90+ points. Nash can't even dream bout numbers like that. I'm not saying Kovy's contract is worth but that's why he got we he got. As for Gomez, nothing needs to be said bout him. A dumb GM who signed him to that contract and a even dumber one to trade for him.

You think it's "pretty impressive he put up 60 points playing in Columbus". Well we totally disagree on that one. I think it's pretty sad. 60 points from a first overall pick? Lets look at the 1st overalls around him. As mentioned, we have Kovalchuk one year before Nash, Ovechkin, two years after Nash and Crosby, 3 years after Nash. 60 points would be career lows for those guys. I know, we can't compare Nash to those guys cuz he doesn't have the support those guys have. But this year, he's had Carter for a bit and it's turning out to be the worst years of both their careers. A great player will make others around him better like Iginla.

As for guys wanting to play in Columbus, I think the only players that wanna play there are guys that absolutely don't care bout winning games or even making the playoffs and are just there to collect a paycheque. Other than that, I don't see why any NHLer would wanna play for a club who's made the post season once in 12 years.

[jeedee]

60-70~ points / 30+ goals each year for a guy who plays on one of the WORSE teams in the NHL, who doesn't have legit linemates is pretty solid numbers if you ask me.

He's been carrying Columbus for 9 years and it's scary how he can put those types of numbers. Putting him with the Sedin's would put him on a whole other level.

[civicyvr]

Sorry, more on Rick Nash. I'll be very surprised if he gets dealt at the trade deadline. Lots to consider. A) he's just not worth the 7.5 million a year. B) the team that acquires him are gonna fuck themselves over for the next 5 years cuz of the prospects, and or draft picks and or roster players they have to give up. Dunno if any team is willing to do that. C) there could be better guys (IE Parise) that might be available on July 1st and you don't have to give up anything. And D) prolly the most important thing for Howson to consider is, are the guys they're getting back actually wanna play in Columbus? The last thing they need is another Jeff Carter situation where they player don't wanna be there. I really don't think many NHLers say "I would love to play in Columbus!" So therefore, I'm guessing Nash stays exactly where he is.

Good points.

A) That's debatable. Nash will be refresh being on a better team and having a chance at the cup.
B) LA has enough to not miss them too bad.
C) They would like to solidify their playoff spot and improve team overall depending on the actual trade.
D) CBJ can't be worse than how they are doing now and prospects are are easier to mold and be grateful of ice time.

Lombardi can feel the heat due to mediocrity for a long time.

haha oops yes i meant Carter. I'm not saying Carter and Richards are 100% on par with Nash but my point is in sports it's possible and quite often likely things don't work out the way you expect. Chemistry is an odd thing.

All the trade talk is all good guys. Keeps things interesting and gives different perspectives. All I am saying is I rather the Canucks have an easier road in the playoffs.

Wonder what MG's been up to? Maybe kicking the tires on Allen, Lydman, Gaustad or Moen. Haha.

[dbaz]

if he gets on a decent team hes hitting 80+ points. plays with no one, against teams best defensive pairing and usually checking line. im actually amazed he puts up the amount goals he does every year.

[clowe]

You think it's "pretty impressive he put up 60 points playing in Columbus". Well we totally disagree on that one. I think it's pretty sad. 60 points from a first overall pick? Lets look at the 1st overalls around him. As mentioned, we have Kovalchuk one year before Nash, Ovechkin, two years after Nash and Crosby, 3 years after Nash. 60 points would be career lows for those guys. I know, we can't compare Nash to those guys cuz he doesn't have the support those guys have. But this year, he's had Carter for a bit and it's turning out to be the worst years of both their careers. A great player will make others around him better like Iginla.

As for guys wanting to play in Columbus, I think the only players that wanna play there are guys that absolutely don't care bout winning games or even making the playoffs and are just there to collect a paycheque. Other than that, I don't see why any NHLer would wanna play for a club who's made the post season once in 12 years.

Completely agree with you on the Nash/Kovalchuk comparison. In his final years in Atlanta, Kovalchuk went on long stretches where he was single-handedly carrying the Thrashers on his back and making shit players look good.

In 08-09 - Bryan Little (31 goals -- by far his career best to date) and Todd White (73 pts -- by far a career best, vanished into obscurity after Kovalchuk left).

09-10 -- Nik Antropov, career best 67 pts (Been on a 40-45 pt/yr pace since). Afinogenov, career best 61 pts (had 20 in the previous season).

Vermette, Huselius, Umberger and Voracek aren't great players but they're not that inferior compared to the likes of Nik Antropov, Little, White and Afinogenov, might even be able to argue that they were marginally better.

John Tavares basically only has Moulson and Streit, he has 55 pts compared to Nash's 39 in the same number of games so far. If Tavares was in Columbus and Nash on Long Island, I'd have to say, IMO, Tavares will still be able to be a pt/game player while Nash still wouldn't have much more than the 39 he has now.

[b0unce. [?]]

How do you know Nash wont be able to pull high numbers if he had legitimate teammates? Even Kovalchuk playing in ATL for most of his career, had a few legit line mates - hossa, bondra, dupuis, forgot afingenov too! etc.

Ovie had semin, green, backstrom, plus Washington wasn't the worst team in the NHL and neither was Pittsburgh. Crosby as we already know is the best player in the league, there's nothing to really argue about that. I'm not trying to compare Nash to a guy like Crosby, I'm just comparing him to guys around the same skill level and pay.

I have no idea whether or not he would be better if he were on another team with better line mates. We wont know unless he makes a change in scenery.

I'm not saying Iginla sucks, but clearly chemistry is a huge factor for players. Otherwise maybe guys like Jokinen, Stajan and Bowmeester might be playing better.

edit: it's easy to compare when you're only pointing out 1 season. it's already a fact that both carter and nash are having a shitty season.

[clowe]

When Hossa and Kovalchuk were in Atlanta together, they played on separate lines for the most part. Hossa with Kozlov and Kovalchuk with Holik on the 2nd line.

[b0unce. [?]]

When Hossa and Kovalchuk were in Atlanta together, they played on separate lines for the most part. Hossa with Kozlov and Kovalchuk with Holik on the 2nd line.

Players would still get shuffled between lines. They still had a better overall roster. What has Columbus had? I thought CBJ might have been able to turn things around a bit when they picked up Huselius, but he's seen better days as a Flame.

[Blah_Teggie]

;7800549']Players would still get shuffled between lines. They still had a better overall roster. What has Columbus had? I thought CBJ might have been able to turn things around a bit when they picked up Huselius, but he's seen better days as a Flame.

What has Columbus had? A top 8 draft pick every single year Nash has been in the league with the exception of 2009 and they drafted a forward with all those top 8 picks. Common sense will tell you that Nash would be able to create some chemistry with one or two of them. But no, he hasn't. You can't discredit Ovie and how he made have made guys like Semin and Backstrom better. And as Clowe mentioned earlier, all you gotta do is look at Tavares. Who's even heard of Moulson and Parenteau (both 9th round picks btw) before they started to play with JT? Now look at them. I'm not saying Nash wouldn't find success if he leaves the CBJ, of course he will. But he's not as good as some of you say he is.

[dbaz]

Vermette, Huselius, Umberger and Voracek aren't great players but they're not that inferior compared to the likes of Nik Antropov, Little, White and Afinogenov, might even be able to argue that they were marginally better.

John Tavares basically only has Moulson and Streit, he has 55 pts compared to Nash's 39 in the same number of games so far. If Tavares was in Columbus and Nash on Long Island, I'd have to say, IMO, Tavares will still be able to be a pt/game player while Nash still wouldn't have much more than the 39 he has now.

Umm Id take all of the players you listed that kovalchuk had over what nash had. Bad comparison in my opinion. I also doubt tavares would be ppg in columbus. Western conference is harder than eastern. Its been obvious for a long time. Islanders have a lot more than just moulson and streit too.
What has Columbus had? A top 8 draft pick every single year Nash has been in the league with the exception of 2009 and they drafted a forward with all those top 8 picks. Common sense will tell you that Nash would be able to create some chemistry with one or two of them. But no, he hasn't. You can't discredit Ovie and how he made have made guys like Semin and Backstrom better. And as Clowe mentioned earlier, all you gotta do is look at Tavares. Who's even heard of Moulson and Parenteau (both 9th round picks btw) before they started to play with JT? Now look at them. I'm not saying Nash wouldn't find success if he leaves the CBJ, of course he will. But he's not as good as some of you say he is.
4 of those were busts. filatov, brule, picard, zherdev. while voracek is a 3rd liner on philly now
only 1 forward drafted with their top pick remains on the team in the nhl, johansen who possibly isnt even ready for the nhl yet.
Parenteau put up 100+ in the q, ppl heard of him. the isles also have Nielsen, Grabner, okoposo and next year a maybe nhl ready Niederreiter

[Ronin]

I think Nash is overrated, to be honest. He's not a $7.8m player...he's just paid $7.8m because Columbus tried to convince him to stay on their shitty team.

Nash is a great player but he's not goddamn amazing. He's topped 40 goals once. He's had 70 points once. Say all you want about how he plays on the worst team but truly world class players that get $7.8m make the team better regardless of who they're playing with. Crosby hasn't had a decent linemate his entire career!

Too many people think he'll immediately be amazing when he goes to a contender but players as recent as Bouwmeester show that the best player on a terrible team doesn't immediately become a superstar when he moves to a better team.

[b0unce. [?]]

^ beat me to it regarding the draft picks.
well columbus had money to toss around, of course they are gonna try to secure their only good draft pick by paying him to stay :lol
my point was never stating that he's amazing, i just think there's a good chance he'll do better given the chance in a better environment.

[jeedee]

I think Nash is overrated, to be honest. He's not a $7.8m player...he's just paid $7.8m because Columbus tried to convince him to stay on their shitty team.

There's a difference between being overrated and being overpaid ;).

Nash is definitely overpaid than overrated IMO.

[jeedee]

Happy bday CoHo :toot:

Born in Toronto and playing Toronto today on his 22nd birthday

Perfect scenario if you ask me ;)

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxk42aNOsL1qbghg6o1_500.gif

[Blah_Teggie]

Umm Id take all of the players you listed that kovalchuk had over what nash had. Bad comparison in my opinion. I also doubt tavares would be ppg in columbus. Western conference is harder than eastern. Its been obvious for a long time. Islanders have a lot more than just moulson and streit too.

4 of those were busts. filatov, brule, picard, zherdev. while voracek is a 3rd liner on philly now
only 1 forward drafted with their top pick remains on the team in the nhl, johansen who possibly isnt even ready for the nhl yet.
Parenteau put up 100+ in the q, ppl heard of him. the isles also have Nielsen, Grabner, okoposo and next year a maybe nhl ready Niederreiter

Let me start off by saying I totally understand that not every single top 8 pick turns out. I get that. And yes, some of the blame can go to whoever the hell runs the CBJ scouting department. But Rick Nash can't escape blame here. He's team captain and leader. It's his job to make others around him better. At some point, he's gotta look in the mirror and ask himself if there was more he could've done to turn a few of them into solid NHLers. Lets not forget that Filatov was the top ranked Euro for his draft and Brule was at one time the 2nd best prospect in the world behind only Crosby so these guys know how to play the game.

[dbaz]

doesnt matter who they are or what they were in juniors. only thing matters is if they can translate it to the nhl. they couldnt. thats why you see busts and surprises fromt he late rounds because the players themselves have to learn how to develop by themselves too along with management overseeing them. is the progression of columbus's prospects any of nash's fault ? was naslund to blame because jason king couldnt become anything better than a temp fill on the sedin line? simply its not, columbus doesnt know that allowing prospects more time in juniors and ahl helps them. they constantly rush their prospects and fail because of it. a large if not all of columbus's problems come from the gms/ownership. nash is a shooter not a playmaker think of a james neal type of player. hes a big elite power forward but without someone who can be a good playmaker hes tapped out at 60-70 by himself. if he goes to a team with that playmaker hes got more points and youll be changing your opinion

[spideyv2]

lol @ comparing Nash and Kovalchuk. Kovy managed to be a PPG+ player on a shitdick Atlanta franchise. Nash has only been a PPG player once in his career. Like Ronin said, he's great, but he's definitely not amazing.

[Mike Oxbig]

From TSN Radio 1050: Henrik Sedin interview
TSN Video Player (http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/clip621810#clip621810)

This is from what I remember: I might have missed a few, so please add anything I missed (I just don't want to re-listen to write out a re-cap)

- thought that the team knew how to handle the media well when they were under extreme watch of the entire country during the SCF and the locker room wasn't affected by the outside media

- this year's team is better because of what they went through last year. having that experience of the ups and downs and how to handle things will make them succeed

- it was special beating Boston in Boston after last season and that the win gave them some confidence

- he appreciates that he's gotten to play with his twin brother his entire career

- he thinks he and Daniel have answered the questions of whether the Sedins can perform individually or not when he went 20 games without Daniel in the lineup in 2009-2010 and scored at the same pace

- in response to him and Daniel coming in 2nd and 3rd in ESPN's most easily intimidated all-star poll, he questions by what standard they measure these things (subjective viewpoint, what others may think, what media may think, etc) when they answer the questions

- uses Phaneuf being most overrated in the league as an example of unclear standards because he think Phaneuf is a great defenseman in this league (showing respect to tomorrow's opponent as well as the captain of the hometown team in which the radio interview is held)

- also says that he would never answer these types of polls and that other players should also stay away from them because for him the character of the person who was voted is not reflected by these polls, but rather these polls say something about the character of the person who voted

- interviewer pretty much tells him that he and his brother are top 5 talents in the league and extremely underpaid and whether they took a hometown discount or not, but Henrik says he is happy with the money he signed for because they did not want to leave Vancouver and that they thought it was a fair deal

- also says that there are a lot of players on Vancouver who are outperforming their salary and that that's what teams need in order to win and be successful

[civicyvr]

When Hossa and Kovalchuk were in Atlanta together, they played on separate lines for the most part. Hossa with Kozlov and Kovalchuk with Holik on the 2nd line.

Kovalchuk and Nash are different players. 2.5 mil diff. J/K.

Most will say Kovalchuk is a better player and I agree. I do believe he had better people around him than Nash though. I don't follow hockey that much but just with the example above you can deduct he wasn't the only scoring line and probably had more room and options to work with in regular and PP time.

Comparing players based on salary/points only can be flawed.

[civicyvr]

From TSN Radio 1050: Henrik Sedin interview
TSN Video Player (http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/clip621810#clip621810)

Sedins are a class act and glad to have them here.

Hope their play ramps up for the playoffs.

Don't forget it's an early game today boys.

[punkwax]

Happy bday CoHo :toot:

Born in Toronto and playing Toronto today on his 22nd birthday

Perfect scenario if you ask me ;)


Coho with 2G + 2A! :toot:

[Durrann]

Sedins are a class act and glad to have them here.

Hope their play ramps up for the playoffs.

Don't forget it's an early game today boys.

I liked the answer about the poll
Classy indeed
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[dbaz]

anyone watching philly/pit game? probably the worst reffed game of the year and comedy of errors to go with it too.

[highfive]

LOL @ Penner.

Rich Hammond Twitter

Sutter: "(Penner) went out of the lineup because he was horse(crap), so he'd better step up to the plate or he might not get another look."

[spideyv2]

U of Wisconsin vs Denver, channel 54. Nucks prospect Joseph Labate plays for wisconsin
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[punkwax]

People like Penner piss me off. If I had all the tools I would give it a serious fuckin effort to be the best I could be out there.

[pure.life]

People like Penner piss me off. If I had all the tools I would give it a serious fuckin effort to be the best I could be out there.

True. But you would also have all the money in the world to dish out at clubs and live a pretty luxurious lifestyle. That's probably a distraction. I think intrinsic motivation is crucial for athletes like Penner who has all the size and tools of power forward in the league. He needs to want to win!
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[Ronin]

Hahahahahaha did they really say that about Penner? Oh man...LOL. That guy just keeps on giving this year. First the pancakes, now his coach calls him horseshit? Comedy.

[DanHibiki]

I'm surprised they didn't send Penner down the the AHL to save on his salary.

[dbaz]

I believe they can but someone would claim him. Unless he has a no movement clause. BTW game time..
Also Pavel Kubina traded to the Flyers

[LSF22]

Flyers get Kubina for a 2nd and 4th rounder

[dbaz]

2nd and 5th i believe..
nvm kypreos wrong again. 2nd and 4th it is

[mako]

Game on!!!!!
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[Renthal]

one thing CBC does well is these pump up pre-game video montages..
great song, great video :fuckyea:

[Mercy]

anyone know what the song was before the cbc hockey intro? the song they were playing when showing the canucks and the leafs.

[Boostslut]

Great opener on CBC! Go nucks!

[Vale46Rossi]

Awww Yeah!

Go Canucks Go!

[dbaz]

anyone know what the song was before the cbc hockey intro? the song they were playing when showing the canucks and the leafs.

Awolnation - Sail

[satek]

anyone know what the song was before the cbc hockey intro? the song they were playing when showing the canucks and the leafs.

Awolnation - Sail - Unlimited Gravity Remix

[LSF22]

anyone know what the song was before the cbc hockey intro? the song they were playing when showing the canucks and the leafs.

AwolNation - Sail


And dbaz...never listen to Kypreos lol

[mako]

AWOL
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[UFO]

doesnt matter who they are or what they were in juniors. only thing matters is if they can translate it to the nhl. they couldnt. thats why you see busts and surprises fromt he late rounds because the players themselves have to learn how to develop by themselves too along with management overseeing them. is the progression of columbus's prospects any of nash's fault ? was naslund to blame because jason king couldnt become anything better than a temp fill on the sedin line? simply its not, columbus doesnt know that allowing prospects more time in juniors and ahl helps them. they constantly rush their prospects and fail because of it. a large if not all of columbus's problems come from the gms/ownership. nash is a shooter not a playmaker think of a james neal type of player. hes a big elite power forward but without someone who can be a good playmaker hes tapped out at 60-70 by himself. if he goes to a team with that playmaker hes got more points and youll be changing your opinion

+1. Drafts are can be a total crapshoot, even in the upper first round. 2 words: Patrik Stefan.

To anybody who thinks a top 10 pick not making the big leagues is the fault of the captain, or any other player on the team, really? It's the management/coaches/minors that develop the kids.

Not to mention CBJ have had a number of promising young goalie prospects who had a good year or stretches of a decent year, then rode them and broke them or shipped them off to get abused before they were ready for the big time.

You don't often get a big body, speed, power, brains, and great hands in one package. I'm a huge Nash fan. Does he deserve 7.8M? I don't think his market value is far off; sure there are some players who make less and provide more but you can argue they are underpaid, there are also players who are paid much more than they are worth so once again it can go both ways.

[Mercy]

thanks for the replys lol.

[Vale46Rossi]

Lets make it 10 in a row!

[MG1]

Mark has lost some weight.......... his ending to O' Canada still sucks. The jumping to the octave + fifth from last year's playoffs is still his best ending. LOL

[sindragon]

nothing makes this game better with jim hughson commentating :fuckyea: