[DanHibiki]

damn u gillis!

[sevewone]

Is there any riots going on there?

[BossFrancis]

GO KONY GO

[MG1]

Who the fuck cares if its a real fan or not. Just watch a game of hockey and root for the team you like. So many vancouver fans are SO fucking gung-ho over 'real' fans and 'bandwagoners'. NO ONE CARES BUT YOU, YOU STUPID FUCKS. Pisses me off.

Yeah, buddy. You post in here what a few times? Come in here when some people are hurt over the loss. This is a Canucks thread.


Then you post, "Called it!"

Really..........you're the attention whore - stupid fuck!!

[cliffhanger33]

Aww Cory was gna cry

[Bonka]

Poor Schneider. Definitely not happy.

[Mike Oxbig]

stubborn MG shoulda paid Ehrhoff

[OGCStrike]

^ i dont think any canucks fans would be happy...:QQ:

[k3mps]

come on guys, the canucks lost
it's not "hamhuis lost for us" or "raymond" lost for us
the canucks lost
looking foward to next season!

[OGCStrike]

shuda traded hodgson in the offseason...

[Not really racist!]

Just wanted to thank the Canucks for a good but short season, and all of you guys here. Whether it was arguing, agreeing, weeping, or celebrating with our memes and nicknames. We should really have an RS meet next playoffs somewhere....live and die by the Canucks.

[Ronin]

Keep this shit civil. We have enough to be sad about...let's not start a flame war.

It's EVERYONE'S fault. No specific player. Hockey is a team sport...we lose as a team.

...except Raymond. That guy is terrible. :troll:

[cliffhanger33]

Sami isn't retiring?

[SkinnyPupp]

The Canucks weren't playing like a championship team for a long time, regardless of that stupid president's trophy.
I think you are the only other person who acknowledges this...

[DanHibiki]

If only Raymond finished that wrap around

Fakkk hes terrible

Can never finish

i felt like he had enough time to get a better angle before trying the wrap around.

[hotshot1]

I hope Salo doesn't retire.

I just wanna see Malholtra and Raymond gone.

[MG1]

Not the way some of us hoped things would go, but there's always next season.

Can't make fun of that commercial with the Jet's fan who has to bury his "Number One" paraphernalia.

[jaguar604]

Now we get a top 22 draft pick :troll:

[Sid Vicious]

why the fuck would have hodgson have made a difference? that guy hasnt done shit on buffalo with more icetime

anyways luongos the one that needs to go...schneider proved hes the goalie of the future

[westopher]

oops

[mb_]

i felt like he had enough time to get a better angle before trying the wrap around.

It looked like he fell just before he got the shot off.. :okay:

[DanHibiki]

why the fuck would have hodgson have made a difference? that guy hasnt done shit on buffalo with more icetime

anyways luongos the one that needs to go...schneider proved hes the goalie of the future

because he's scored big goals for us?

[Ri2]

next year!!! lets keep the dream alive :)

[Sid Vicious]

because he's scored big goals for us?

playoffs gp: 12

pts: 1

reaaaal big.

[fsy82]

Now the boys can actually get some rest and recover from surgeries and injuries. The Canucks have played close to 200 games since last season.

[SkinnyPupp]

Have to bite my lip (finger?) when I see people on Facebook saying "I can't believe we lost to a team like the Kings"... like wtf do you not watch hockey at all??? Kings always had a good team, not the highest scoring team, but with the best goalie in the league, they have a great team. They played better than the Canucks, and that's why they won.

Sorry had to vent here so I don't start a fight on facebook lol

[Not really racist!]

I've just learned to read statuses on facebook and get a good chuckle outta it.. no point arguing and talking with those morons who don't know SHIT

[Sid Vicious]

people think regular season standings have an impact on playoff performance, but look at the NY giants...9-7 and superbowl champs

[Mike Oxbig]

Now we get a top 22 draft pick :troll:

22nd Overall NHL Draft Picks (http://www.mynhldraft.com/nhl-draft-picks/22nd-overall/220509/)

recent 22nd overall picks

2011 Tyler Biggs RW US NTDP Toronto Maple Leafs
2010 Jarred Tinordi D U-18 NTDP Montreal Canadiens
2009 Jordan Schroeder RW USA U-18 NTDP Vancouver Canucks
2008 Jordan Eberle C Regina (WHL) Edmonton Oilers
2007 Max Pacioretty LW Sioux City (USHL) Montreal Canadiens
2006 Claude Giroux RW Gatineau (QMJHL) Philadelphia Flyers

:ahwow:

[dark_reverie]

I hope Salo doesn't retire.

I just wanna see Malholtra and Raymond gone.

and edler

[Ri2]

Have to bite my lip (finger?) when I see people on Facebook saying "I can't believe we lost to a team like the Kings"... like wtf do you not watch hockey at all??? Kings always had a good team, not the highest scoring team, but with the best goalie in the league, they have a great team. They played better than the Canucks, and that's why they won.

Sorry had to vent here so I don't start a fight on facebook lol

i think they deserved to progress after 11 years, they probably feel good as hell right now! they were the better team overall and played hard so props to them. they wanted it a lot so we should be happy for them! just like if it was the reverse we would want people to be happy for our team!!

there's always next season for us :concentrate:

[mb_]

^Edler's not gonna get the boot cause he had a horrible series..

[SupraMan604]

Canucks just did not play their hearts out it seems ...it looked like they were more worried about avoiding getting hit like flies today.

[Greenstoner]

hope these legs can comfort you guys as it comforts me

http://youtu.be/_XVIFSM1tEQ

[Mike Oxbig]

^ not even hot

[BlackZRoadster]

Wore my signed Schneider jersey with pride.

I hung up my Luongo jersey a while ago

[Greenstoner]

^ not even hot

ugly faces but nice leg movement

[Not really racist!]

A lot of Canucks didn't have a great series...

We're trading them away / not re-signing then right?

C'mon now lol...

[pure.life]

^Edler's not gonna get the boot cause he had a horrible series..

May have decreased his stocks for a contract negotiation. Not as much moola now with a first round exit and poor play

[FerrariEnzo]

Gillis, Alain and LU needs to go!!!!

[Ronin]

I can see arguments for Lu and AV (although all the ones for AV are stupid) but why Gillis? What? Reigning GM of the year? Put together the best Canucks team in history?

Is it because he didn't turn water into wine?

[Tim Budong]

beer
thnx

[cliffhanger33]

Boston better Get eliminated

Fuck Boston

[mb_]

Gillis, Alain and LU needs to go!!!!

Gillis? What? He made the necessary moves to bring in players for AV to use and he failed to do it.


Boston better Get eliminated

Fuck Boston
and blackhawks

[punkwax]

Sucks that we lost, but LA deserved to win. They checked us hard, passed with authority, and made us turn the puck over so many times it was gross. Simply outplayed in every capacity. We didn't even test Quick by bombarding with shots and traffic. Way too many attempts at the pretty play.

Fucking sucks, but we didn't have it in us this year. That was evident from game 1.

:(

[welfare]

poor schneider. it's ok. you did a great job. can't wait to see how he does leading in the next season. hopefully.
oh well. i'm thankful we gave it to la good in game 4. shook them up a bit. at least for a short period. wish we had daniel back going into the series. woulda been a different story

[SkinnyPupp]

Gillis, Alain and LU needs to go!!!!
If Luongo stays, AV goes. If AV stays, Luongo most likely goes, but maybe stays.

[Sw0op]

Looks like Salo will play next year?

[murd0c]

I will always be a Canucks fan win or lose...

[SupraMan604]

Salo says he will play but where who knows....

[SkinnyPupp]

If Salo plays, I want it to be here

[DanHibiki]

coho traded because av no give him ice time.

now if av goes, it's like we lost coho for no reason! :(

[Ronin]

The only thing I don't like about AV is that he constantly juggles his lines. Absolutely hate it. That and he seems to love Raymond. No reason that guy should've gotten a sniff of the top-6 this year the way he played.

Otherwise, AV is an amazing coach.

The way I saw it this year was that EVERYONE saw how the Canucks play last year. They got a lot of attention beating the shit out of everyone in 2010/2011 but other teams have adapted to the Canucks style and the Canucks haven't improved their game or reached another level. Nashville, St. Louis, etc all caught up.

THAT is the only reason why things should change. If you asked the 29 other teams in the league if they would want AV to be their coach, at least 25 of them would say yes. Only Trotz, Babcock, Hitchcock, Byslma and maybe Torts are in that same category.

[ImportPsycho]

See you guys in October. Hope the boys will step it up BIG TIME.

Until next season.. we really have no one else but ourselves to blame for this series.


full off season for the boys and a full training camp for malholtra and kesler should do wonders for next season...

How the fuck is this all Luongo's fault?


Till next time!

looking foward to next season!

next year!!! lets keep the dream alive :)

Getting real fking sick and tire of hearing same comments year after year

[DanHibiki]

The only thing I don't like about AV is that he constantly juggles his lines. Absolutely hate it. That and he seems to love Raymond. No reason that guy should've gotten a sniff of the top-6 this year the way he played.

Otherwise, AV is an amazing coach.

The way I saw it this year was that EVERYONE saw how the Canucks play last year. They got a lot of attention beating the shit out of everyone in 2010/2011 but other teams have adapted to the Canucks style and the Canucks haven't improved their game or reached another level. Nashville, St. Louis, etc all caught up.

THAT is the only reason why things should change. If you asked the 29 other teams in the league if they would want AV to be their coach, at least 25 of them would say yes. Only Trotz, Babcock, Hitchcock, Byslma and maybe Torts are in that same category.

I know montreal would love to have him back

[punkwax]

coho traded because av no give him ice time.

now if av goes, it's like we lost coho for no reason! :(

Are you serious? Coho was traded because he was rotting on the 3rd line.

Now if Kesler doesn't regain '10-'11 form, then people can say it was a mistake. The trade hinges on Kesler's performance more than it does Kassian's at this point.

[Not really racist!]

Getting real fking sick and tire of hearing same comments year after year

Because maybe that's the only thing left we have to say as fans?

[rsx]

Never been a fan of the Sedins and the past "runs" have shown why. Regular season play vs playoff is immensely different. We won the 1st period because guys started hitting, it's all about turn over and making the D second guess.

I hate to sound like Cherry but, I'd love to have some N. American boys in this team instead of the twins.

[saiko]

Getting real fking sick and tire of hearing same comments year after year

What else do you say?

Dwell on what just happened or look forward to next season.. geeze

[StylinRed]

actually went to the game today! :(

was hoping Luongo would have played but schneids did well but Lu must be chooooked

[Mike Oxbig]

Never been a fan of the Sedins and the past "runs" have shown why. Regular season play vs playoff is immensely different. We won the 1st period because guys started hitting, it's all about turn over and making the D second guess.

I hate to sound like Cherry but, I'd love to have some N. American boys in this team instead of the twins.

thats fucked up... more like you need hard nose north american boys to back up the skilled forward of European players

[TjAlmeida]

i wonder if the canucks will pull a montreal and trade schneider.

[cliffhanger33]

Well..... I thank you Canucks for keeping me entertained for the season

Better luck next year I guess

[Pooface55]

At least I can shave now.

Still think they need to blow this team up.

[invader]

Getting real fking sick and tire of hearing same comments year after year

If you don't like reading those comments then GTFO out of this thread. Fans will always voice their opinions when they feel passionate about their team.

[spoon.ek9]

Getting real fking sick and tire of hearing same comments year after year

you have 2 posts in this entire thread.

[cliffhanger33]

Confused which thread to post now

[cliffhanger33]

I'm pretty sure some team requires Mayray's "speed" :heckno:

[rb]

;7896802']it's easy to say we should trade mayray, but i think it's going to be a huge challenge to find a team that would want him lol

his contract is up.

[Vale46Rossi]

And we're back!

I remember after game 7 and the new thread popped up right away too!

It was a good regular season, had lots of entertainment for the 82 games!

[LUUUUUUUU]

lol team1040 playing Boyz II Men - End of the Road

[cliffhanger33]

Im gna legit miss watching the Canucks....

[Mike Oxbig]

Confused which thread to post now

dont bring anything related to this season to next thread, its bad luck!!!!!!

[krazynuck]

Im gna legit miss watching the Canucks....

As will I.....

Chicago Wolves games now I guess....they are only down 0 - 2 in the series

[Mike Oxbig]

close this thread start it during mid august

/thread

[SkinnyPupp]

One thing that drives me crazy as a fan is that fucking "THEY SLAYED THE DRAGON" call... they haven't slayed fucking SHIT until they win the cup. What they did was barely get by and not completely fuck up and blow a 3-0 series lead, with a soft overtime goal. FUCK it drives me crazy that they keep playing it... It is just embarrassing, and perfect fodder for Canucks haters

[DanHibiki]

Ya this is so pointless. Close one of the threads please.

[mb_]

Well, considering that they got their asses handed to them by Chicago for 2 straight years in the playoffs I don't think it's too exaggerated when Shorty made that call. Playing a team you failed to beat for 2 straight years (and could have been 3 possibly) has a pretty big psychological effect on you and it showed when they almost blew a 3-0 series lead.

[Greenstoner]

sutter families are ugly

[MarkyMark]

Anyone have any solid arguments as to why we would be better off keeping Luongo instead of Schneider if we were able to ship him out? Not trying to start anything just curious to hear Lu fans side of the story. I suppose Schneider is unproven playing the majority of a regular season, but other than that I don't see anything else. Luongo is good but he won't get better at this point, and most likely he'll get worse year after year from this point on given his age.

[PiuYi]

i wonder if the canucks will pull a montreal and trade schneider.

hate that comparison

how can you compare price (a young goalie that had 2 good seasons) with luongo (a 30 some yr old perennial top goaltender)??

[civicyvr]

Well, painful to say it's over this year. The boys just felt out of sync since the latter part of the season.

It will be an interesting off season to see what changes will be made if any.

[TRDood]

Inb4 lock.

Thank you:
http://postmediaprovince.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/cory1.jpg

Fuck you:
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Raymond-down-600x300.jpg

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/alain-vigneault-laughing.jpg

Moving along to 2012-2013 season.. :badpokerface:

[Tim Budong]

Anyone have any solid arguments as to why we would be better off keeping Luongo instead of Schneider if we were able to ship him out? Not trying to start anything just curious to hear Lu fans side of the story. I suppose Schneider is unproven playing the majority of a regular season, but other than that I don't see anything else. Luongo is good but he won't get better at this point, and most likely he'll get worse year after year from this point on given his age.

It really comes down to
If Luongo doesn't leave, than the Canucks are OBLIGATED to move Schneider

[Mike Oxbig]

:considered:Cause schneider has similar value to halak which fetch them eller
Luongo, a experienced goalie with gold medal to back up his resume can fetch ryan malone who has a ring?

[MarkyMark]

It really comes down to
If Luongo doesn't leave, than the Canucks are OBLIGATED to move Schneider

Yeah but it would really surprise the shit out of me if the Canucks organization ask if he's willing to be moved and Luongo just says no...Like do you really want to be in a place you're not wanted and deal with even more resentment from fans who clearly aren't in your favour.

That's just my opinion though maybe he doesn't give a shit

[cliffhanger33]

LOl ya i can imagine lu trolling the fans and refusing to be traded

[SkinnyPupp]

Anyone have any solid arguments as to why we would be better off keeping Luongo instead of Schneider if we were able to ship him out? Not trying to start anything just curious to hear Lu fans side of the story. I suppose Schneider is unproven playing the majority of a regular season, but other than that I don't see anything else. Luongo is good but he won't get better at this point, and most likely he'll get worse year after year from this point on given his age.
It doesn't really matter what's best for the team. All that matters is whether Luongo wants to stay or not. If he does, they are stuck with two #1 goalies and their salaries.

[SumAznGuy]

It really comes down to
If Luongo doesn't leave, than the Canucks are OBLIGATED to move Schneider

I wouldn't say obligated to move him, but this is their situation.
They have Lu signed for many years to come.
Schneider is an RFA and there are rumors that other teams may be willing to offer quite a bit of money for him. Sure the team will get compensation but if the team wants to keep Cory, then that means they will have to offer more money.
The team also has a pretty good prospect in Eddie Lack in the minors.

Depending on how negotiations go, it may be hard to convince Cory to take a paycut to hang around longer to be goalie 1B and play 30-40 games.
Same goes with signing Scheider and asking Lu to be 1B and play less than 50 games.

So obligated, no. But they don't have a lot of negotiation room atm.

[Harvey Specter]

This lose doesn't hurt much because I had enough time to prepare for the train wreck since March. The red flags for me were already up when the Canucks weren't scoring and goaltending was winning them games during the last month and a half of the regular season. We didn't have the same explosive offense we had last season and it's the same old story....if you don't score goals, you can't win games and series.

And I predict the Canucks will do what it takes to move Ryan K and Lu this summer, Ballard and Raymond are guaranteed to be unloaded. I think AV might get another season behind the bench unless the ownership decides to fire both AV and Gillis which I highly doubt.

[cliffhanger33]

All the playoff advertisements and wallpapers are taken out of the official canucks website already :okay:

[civicyvr]

Yeah but it would really surprise the shit out of me if the Canucks organization ask if he's willing to be moved and Luongo just says no...Like do you really want to be in a place you're not wanted and deal with even more resentment from fans who clearly aren't in your favour.

That's just my opinion though maybe he doesn't give a shit

Don't think he will say no. He's a competitor and have lot's of pride to pull a douche move like that. He'll most likely have a list for MG though. That's assuming they want him out.

[nah]

The Sedins weren't the problem, not getting secondary scoring was the problem.

Kesler no goals in the last 17 games. All the needs to be said.

[mb_]

Move Ryan Kesler? :fuckthatshit: :fulloffuck: :seriously:

[Harvey Specter]

Move Ryan Kesler? :fuckthatshit: :fulloffuck: :seriously:

There's rumors that he's unhappy in Vancouver. We'll see what happens during the summer.

[Tim Budong]

Im just gonna post this here so people actually understand the situation with SchnooSchnoo

The Complete Guide to Cory Schneider's Upcoming Restricted Free Agency | CanucksArmy (http://canucksarmy.com/2012/3/13/a-complete-guide-to-cory-schneiders-impending-restricted-free-agency)

[cliffhanger33]

One does not simply move a Selke award winner

[PiuYi]

As will I.....

Chicago Wolves games now I guess....they are only down 0 - 2 in the series

been there done that

fire AV and bring in craig mctavish :fullofwin:

[Tim Budong]

Kesler just purchased a house this year in Kits
LOL
of course that doesnt mean much does it

[DanHibiki]

There's rumors that he's unhappy in Vancouver. We'll see what happens during the summer.

never once heard this before

[TjAlmeida]

hate that comparison

how can you compare price (a young goalie that had 2 good seasons) with luongo (a 30 some yr old perennial top goaltender)??

give me another comparison then...

im not comparing the actual goalies but essentially the situation is the same.

Price was number 1, then Halak stepped in for the play offs and got shipped out and the team showed its faith in price.

Luongo was number 1, then Schneider stepped in for playoffs... rest is to be determinded

[kristianhay]

Even though the odds were against us, I still had faith the Canucks and for a good part of the game I thought they could really do it. Stupid, selfish play by Hamhuis cost us the game - but ce la vie.

Under performers this series:
-Bieksa (absolutely terrible - sick of the drop pass, predictable shot into the shins of the opposing player resulting in odd man rushes, etc)
-Edler was brutal
-Kesler
-Raymond
-Higgins
-Burrows

Who played well/showed some heart:
-Sedins
-Booth (at least he was trying)
-Hansen is a workhorse
-Tanev
-Ballard
-Luongo
-Schneider

Whoever I didn't list I felt didn't over/under achieve.

To those who are saying AV won't be moved, he's a good coach, etc - while all that is true, something has to change. That's how it works in the NHL. He has been here for six years and while we've had success to some degree, we still don't have a Stanley Cup. Sure he has won us division titles, President's trophies, etc but in the end, none of that really matters. I feel that he's been severely out coached in numerous playoff series' (Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston) and his number might just be up. Nothing against him as I think he's a pretty good coach, but something just needs to change.

As for the goaltending situation, it's obvious that one of the two are going to be moved. Which it is I can't really speculate on, because we don't know what's going on in Lui's head, if he'll ask for a trade, what Schneider will be asking, etc - so only time will tell. I do expect we will be receiving some combination of a high pick/prospect/roster player regardless of who goes.

Anyone who suggests trading Edler is fucking retarded. Sure he slumped, but so did the majority of the team. Same thing about Kesler, he had an underwhelming season and an even worse playoff series, but I just can't see them trading him.

Let MayRay walk. Ballard is kind of a toss up for me as I thought he was one of our better defenseman in the series.

I'm sure I'll think of some other shit sooner or later, but thanks for the season Canucks. Lots of ups and downs, but onto the next. I always say if they lose here or there I'll never watch again, but who am I kidding? Looking forward to what happens next.

For the time being, go Sens haha! Gotta support our Canadian teams.

[spideyv2]

I dunno whether the team was gassed, just didn't give a fuck, underestimated the Kings, and/or all three?
By the time the team woke up, they were down 3 games to 0. Not much room for error there.

[Harvey Specter]

^
there was some talk on the post game show on team1040, there's also another rumor floating around that he was getting hip treatment after every game so who knows what the truth is and why he didn't net a goal for 17 games.

[mb_]

There's rumors that he's unhappy in Vancouver. We'll see what happens during the summer.

If there were such rumors we would have heard of it already.. This is RS after all LOL

[Tim Budong]

^
there was some talk on the post game show on team1040, there's also another rumor floating around that he was getting hip treatment after every game so who knows what the truth is and why he didn't net a goal for 17 games.

he also limps out of the arena lol

[TRDood]

Please close the 2011-2012 thread. We should also not talk about Gm5 anymore. It's over.

NHL playoffs can be discussed in the other NHL thread?

[Tim Budong]

I love reading the comments
its like a dumbed down version of 1040 callers at times
LOL

[spideyv2]

It's pretty clear OP was just waiting on his chance to be the creator of the 2012/2013 thread lol

[68style]

Every year in the playoffs its excuses and injuries with KESLER... this year I expect no exception... yah I know it's not his fault if he gets hurt, but fuck how many people have won Stanley Cups (great CAPTAINS like Steve Yzerman come to mind) and had it revealed afterward they had a broken _____ or a torn _____?

Even before he was injured, how many games this season did you see him skate into the zone and try a toe-drag on the defenceman and lose the puck? Every damn game. I found it so ironic he was doing radio ads about using team-mates because it seems like he forgot that somewhere along the line.

There's a lot of passengers on this team... a LOT....................

[Gh0stRider]

Gh0stRider u mad?

:troll:

you were saying...???

u mad? :troll:

[SkinnyPupp]

Even before his hip problems, Kesler was never lighting the world on fire in the playoffs. He had one good (well amazing) series against Nashville, but that's it. I like him as a 3rd line shutdown guy who is responsible at both ends of the ice, but that's about it.

[falcon]

There's rumors that he's unhappy in Vancouver. We'll see what happens during the summer.

not the GUZZLER!!??

[highfive]

I was at the game and Edler was horrible tonight. He looked completely lost out there. There were moments where he just stood there and didn't know where to go or who to pass to.

Still many things to do. I hear a lot of ppl say get rid of AV.

But honestly....who's unemployed right now and can be a better coach than AV?

AV accomplishments

2 Presidents Trophy.
Jack Adams
Divisional Title for how many years?
The most wins in Canucks history.
Stanley Cup finalist
AND if you look really closely in what had got to work with over the years?

And you put in who? MacT? some guy that went to the Stanley cup finals with the Oilers.

The only guy out there right now who has an equally impressive resume would be Crawford. At least he got a cup from Sakic.

IF AV is fired, he won't be unemployed for long.

I think the team just needs a good off season to rest physically and mentally and prepare for next season. The core is there, just need some additional pieces and this team will be the team to beat again next year.

Changes in positions (in my opinion)

Sedins - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - ______
Higgins - ______ - Hansen
______ - Maholtra - Lapierrre

Edler - ______
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo (I honestly think Salo cannot play a top 4 role anymore. I don't think we should ride him as a top 4 dman. It will hurt him sooner or later. Prefer him in a bottom pair / PP role)

Luongo
Schneids (He will stay unless we get awesome offers for him).

[SkinnyPupp]

What makes you want to put Booth and Kesler back together? That was a complete failure

[spideyv2]

am I the only one that sees potential in Dale Weise? The guy works pretty hard and seems like one of those people that really appreciates the opportunity he's getting at the top level

[TjAlmeida]

i dont think people want to get rid of him because he isnt producing, but it seems that his coaching style is very predictable now and other teams coaches are learning to quickly on how to counter his coaching style. even if you have a good coach, there may always be a time for change.

[EmperorIS]

Wayne Gretzky ?

[Ronin]

:lol if I cared about that, I could've done that with any year...with the mod panel. I take no part in any of the thank, fail or whatever here.

I thought since the old thread degenerated into name calling, it would've been best to just make a new thread and look to the future. If we want changes to the lineup, let's talk armchair GMing rather than blaming whoever for the loss. We lost.

To be honest, the loss wasn't as much of a letdown as I expected. I had made peace with it when we lost 3 straight and had a week to do so already. The Canucks weren't as good as their standing would suggest and got beat clean. It was an interesting season and as an especially big stat nerd, I love what this season potentially means for next season, even in pure storylines alone. Who stays? Lu or Schnoo? Will we see a change on D? Do the #Canucks add scoring or size? Hell, I'm ready to talk draft.

I don't care if you fail me til you can't fail no mo. Let's get on with it.

And heck, since the season has been over for 14 teams for weeks already, what happens to the 1st overall pick?

[Bonka]

Weise can develop into a pretty good 4th liner. He needs to decide if he wants to be a gritty, physical player or a beater. If the latter, he's going to need to bone up on how to fight because he sucks at it.

[Ch28]

Wayne Gretzky ?

Dafuq

[Mike Oxbig]

no man, canucks fans needs to digest THIS lost until next season or atleast after the draft...

[Bonka]

double post..

[cliffhanger33]

Sounds silly but would lu clear waivers? I guess not as Toronto, Columbus and Tampa are all teams that would take him without giving up assets. (These are his likely trade destinations.) His cap hit is manageable and is still a good goalie. I personally doubt Lu is gna go on waivers.

[AzNightmare]

srsly... couldn't at least wait until the NHL season was over...:seriously:

[d1]

Sounds silly but would lu clear waivers? I guess not as Toronto, Columbus and Tampa are all teams that would take him without giving up assets. (These are his likely trade destinations.) His cap hit is manageable and is still a good goalie. I personally doubt Lu is gna go on waivers.

Waive Lu? The fuck?

[Ronin]

I thought about it and you guys are right. We should talk about the loss...but I wanted to get on with the next season as well. And c'mon, Lu was the least of our troubles.

And if it really matters to you guys, then we'll start a new thread in August. Geez.

Removed. My bad. I f'n did it backwards the first time...

<---- this is literally me like half an hour ago.

[Ch28]

Sounds silly but would lu clear waivers? I guess not as Toronto, Columbus and Tampa are all teams that would take him without giving up assets. (These are his likely trade destinations.) His cap hit is manageable and is still a good goalie. I personally doubt Lu is gna go on waivers.

Why the fuck would we waive Luongo and give him to teams for nothing when we can trade him and get assets in return.

The fuck?!

[Ronin]

It would be absolutely crazy to waive Luongo. He has good trade value. Not as high as Schneider but there are several teams in the league that would take Luongo. Teams with veteran cores but shaky goaltending. You'd have to think New Jersey is going to be looking to take one of Lu or Schnoo from us. Tampa as well.

I've said it several times before that Luongo's contract isn't as bad as it seems. Everyone always thinks $10m when that's entirely not true and if you read his profile on CapGeek, he has a fairly well structured deal.

[Ronin]

I will be absolutely floored if Mason Raymond is on this team next year. I'm absolutely done with him. If you read into corsi and whatever, Raymond is even worse than you think.

[cliffhanger33]

Yeah I agree. Just a silly thought

[AzNightmare]

lol, new thread gone? or merged I mean.

[EmperorIS]

this city is too unfair to Luongo... he deserves a better city to play in

[Ch28]

Never like Raymond before And I absolutely hate him now. Quite possibly one of the most useless players on our team especially considering how he was given every opportunity to succeed and didn't. If only a guy like Hodgson was afforded that ability...

[Not really racist!]

you were saying...???

u mad? :troll:

Haha, maybe if we deserved to win the series

[d1]

The only reason I'd want Lu moved is if we get a chance to sign someone like Parise. Twins/Burr/Kes of last season + Parise part of the top 6 would be beyond sick.

[Ronin]

lol, new thread gone? or merged I mean.

I guess 2011/2012 isn't over yet.

I just wanted to forget it and Raymond to be dead to me forever.

Do we need another D man in the top 4? Ballard isn't it and Salo should be bottom pairing next year. Weber isn't coming, especially with Nashville looking like they could make a good run. The price is too high for him as a RFA and I think that's just much bolder of a move than Gillis wants to make. However, I don't see any trades out there either. Edler is a good PP D-man but Bieksa and Hamhuis should be together as a 2nd PP pair and sadly Salo doesn't look like he can consistently howitzer anymore. I'd say this season was one of his absolute best defensively which STILL makes him a good $2m signing for next season as insurance and bottom pair.

[spideyv2]

Weise can develop into a pretty good 4th liner. He needs to decide if he wants to be a gritty, physical player or a beater. If the latter, he's going to need to bone up on how to fight because he sucks at it.

Listening to team1040, eh?

[Ronin]

I always forget Weise is only 23. If he can get to...I don't know, Chris Neil, then that's one hell of a pickup for Mike Gillis. Tell him to hit the weights. He doesn't need to fight often...but he does need to up his physical game, maybe get a bit stronger on his skates.

[Ch28]

The only two UFAs that I can think of that are remotely worth a damn would be Parise & Allen. I'd love to get Bryan Allen back on this team. Big, gritty, hard nosed Canadian dman that would have no issues breaking your face if you tried to take liberties with our players

[Bonka]

No I missed out on 1040 post game tonight for once. I'm guessing they had some glowing comments on Weise?

Just checked 1040, what the hell they ended post-game early tonight.

I'm pretty excited to see what kind of changes are coming. At least the off-season will provide some much needed excitement :/

[Ch28]

Also interested to see what San Jose will be doing to their team as well. I'm convinced that both Marleau & Thornton are gone

[Bonka]

What's the word with the Pens? Fleury took a hot dump. Man that's something if you get outplayed by Bryz...

[trancehead]

lol funny you mention san jose amid vancouver

chokers

and for the love of god, mason raymond. why the fuck was he not in the press box

[SkinnyPupp]

It would be absolutely crazy to waive Luongo. He has good trade value. Not as high as Schneider but there are several teams in the league that would take Luongo. Teams with veteran cores but shaky goaltending. You'd have to think New Jersey is going to be looking to take one of Lu or Schnoo from us. Tampa as well.

I've said it several times before that Luongo's contract isn't as bad as it seems. Everyone always thinks $10m when that's entirely not true and if you read his profile on CapGeek, he has a fairly well structured deal.
I have no problems with the contract money wise, but the fact that he has so much control is what bothers me. Here we are with a new #1 guy, who in most ways is better than Lu, and in some ways a LOT better.. but now we can't sign him unless Lu wants to go personally.

I'm not the biggest Lu fan, but I don't have anything against him as a person. He is handling this really well, from what I hear in his interviews lately. But there is just something about the fact that MG and Aquillini 'gave' the franchise to him... NHL doesn't need a 'franchise player' imo. This isn't basketball. And when they gave him the "C", were denied, then painted it on his mask... :rukidding:

[SkinnyPupp]

They mentioned that Schneider has a bad playoff OT record in the AHL.. well I looked it up (http://theahl.com/stats/player.php?id=2074) and it's true. He is like 0-6 in OT games in the 2009 and 2010 playoffs. He never won a single OT game those 2 years :heckno:

[GrapeDrink]

Also interested to see what San Jose will be doing to their team as well. I'm convinced that both Marleau & Thornton are gone

why do you think Thornton will be gone? he was an absolute animal in the series, avging something like 24 minutes a game. If this is going to be a no show joe bash don't even bother, he also had 5 points in 5 games when the team as a whole had 8 goals. Marleau on the other hand was pathetic, he didn't register a scoring chance until game 5 are you fucking kidding me, but sadly he has a no movement clause(so does thornton) so I doubt he gets moved. The likely to be moved are Boyle, his no movement clause ends on june 30th, possibly clowe and pavelski as both were invisible in the blues series, and clowe pretty much for the entire season.

[Harvey Specter]

The biggest question mark is keep Lu or move him if he agrees to be moved and if teams are willing to give up what the Canucks are looking for. I know the Leafs have been thrown around, I really do see Lu in a Leafs jersey next season but the question is does Lu want to move from hockey crazy market to another? And what will the Leafs give up to get him. I feel that Cory would bring in more compared to Lu just because he's younger and won't command the salary that Lu currently has. And if Lu does stay I can't imagine AV behind the bench, it's going to be an extremely awkward situation moving forward so do the Canucks bring up Mac T?

Gills will define himself and the franchise for the next couple of seasons with the moves he makes or the moves he doesn't make. For his sake lets hope he makes the right move and we don't end up like the Leafs or the Flamers, one bad move leads to another and another and next thing you know it you're missing the playoffs for the next few seasons.

[mickz]

I was at the game and Edler was horrible tonight. He looked completely lost out there. There were moments where he just stood there and didn't know where to go or who to pass to.

Still many things to do. I hear a lot of ppl say get rid of AV.

But honestly....who's unemployed right now and can be a better coach than AV?

AV accomplishments

2 Presidents Trophy.
Jack Adams
Divisional Title for how many years?
The most wins in Canucks history.
Stanley Cup finalist
AND if you look really closely in what had got to work with over the years?

And you put in who? MacT? some guy that went to the Stanley cup finals with the Oilers.

The only guy out there right now who has an equally impressive resume would be Crawford. At least he got a cup from Sakic.

IF AV is fired, he won't be unemployed for long.

I think the team just needs a good off season to rest physically and mentally and prepare for next season. The core is there, just need some additional pieces and this team will be the team to beat again next year.

Changes in positions (in my opinion)

Sedins - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - ______
Higgins - ______ - Hansen
______ - Maholtra - Lapierrre

Edler - ______
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo (I honestly think Salo cannot play a top 4 role anymore. I don't think we should ride him as a top 4 dman. It will hurt him sooner or later. Prefer him in a bottom pair / PP role)

Luongo
Schneids (He will stay unless we get awesome offers for him).

MacT has a helluva better resume than AV. 4 cups as a player and he took an EIGHTH place Edmonton Oiler team to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final in '06. You look at the Oiler lineup that year and they had no stars other than Pronger, Hemsky and Smyth; with Roloson playing lights out. Compare them to the modern day Canuck line up and it's no contest which one was more talented.

AV started coaching the Canucks when they were on the rise. The worst he ever had to put up with was a 9 game losing streak in Vancouver. If this was in the dark ages (late 90s/early 2000s) he would not have survived. He was never here for the rough times and not to mention SO wins count as wins too, whereas in previous years coaches had to live with ties.

The NW division titles mean little, if anything now. I remember when it was the most competitive division in the league at one time. This season Vancouver and 2nd place Calgary had a 21pt differential! It would be more difficult for the Canucks to NOT to win the division. The NE division had a 10 pt gap between first (BOS) and second (OTT) place, teams in all the other divisions were within a hair of each other!

That being said I am hoping AV will join the NHL on TSN Panel next year.

[DanHibiki]

MacT has a helluva better resume than AV. 4 cups as a player and he took an EIGHTH place Edmonton Oiler team to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final in '06. You look at the Oiler lineup that year and they had no stars other than Pronger, Hemsky and Smyth; with Roloson playing lights out. Compare them to the modern day Canuck line up and it's no contest which one was more talented.

AV started coaching the Canucks when they were on the rise. The worst he ever had to put up with was a 9 game losing streak in Vancouver. If this was in the dark ages (late 90s/early 2000s) he would not have survived. He was never here for the rough times and not to mention SO wins count as wins too, whereas in previous years coaches had to live with ties.

The NW division titles mean little, if anything now. I remember when it was the most competitive division in the league at one time. This season Vancouver and 2nd place Calgary had a 21pt differential! It would be more difficult for the Canucks to NOT to win the division. The NE division had a 10 pt gap between first (BOS) and second (OTT) place, teams in all the other divisions were within a hair of each other!

That being said I am hoping AV will join the NHL on TSN Panel next year.

Success as a player doesn't translate to success as a coach. If it did then Wanye Gretzky would be the best coach ever.

And the 2006 Oilets run was just one of those times where everything clicked for them at the right time. Hell, Fernado Pasani got 14 goals in the playoffs for crist's sake. How did he and the Oilers do ever since?

[DanHibiki]

Anyone else had a dream/nightmare about the Canucks? :(

[murd0c]

Anyone else had a dream/nightmare about the Canucks? :(

Yes for the past 2 weeks :okay:

[7seven]

Looking back on this season, I really think the problem for the Canucks was that they got away from what made them good, being an up tempo offensive transition team. They got too focused on building a tougher team to battle the Bruins.

Everyones only focus on why the Canucks lost to the Bruins was that the team got physically dominated and Lu sucked, everyone just turned a blind eye to the offense and powerplay disappearing with Kesler, Ehrhoff, Burrows, Edler and Hamhuis hurt. Those were pretty significant pieces out or playing through serious injuries and still they were 1 game away, so this season the Canucks seemed to get away from their up tempo offensive style by going to a more defense first grittier style when they just do not have the right personnel to make that work effectively.

They let Ehrhoff walk thinking Edler was ready to setup into that role successfully, they went from a 3rd line who could play an offensive role to a traditional shut down defense focused 3rd line and traded away some offensive talent to bring in bigger bodies. To me it just seems the Canucks this year were stuck in a transition phase and lost/had no clue of their identity. Right from January, it just seemed that they always had trouble scoring but lacked the personnel and talented big bodies to play the way the coaches/management wanted them to transition to (like the Kings, Bruins, Blues). Kesler also didn't look right the whole year, I think that hip injury/surgery was still bugging him, he just looked really uncomfortable and seemed to have lost that burst of speed he used to have which turned into not much goal support from the 2nd line.

On a brighter note, Schroeder has looked good with the Wolves this year and he should easily be able to replace Raymond next season, and Jensen has looked fantastic since his pro debut with the Wolves. Hopefully the Canucks' coaches can be patient with younger talent next season and trust in them more than in the past.

[Tapioca]

Everybody in the media and on the internet will call the Canucks chokers, etc. I'm going to have to avoid reading people like Gallagher for a few days while I soak this all in. But, ultimately, this team got what it deserved. There's not enough heart on this team.

But, what's nice about the season ending early is that I can go out and take advantage of the nicer weather without having to worry about matchups, injury reports, etc. Also, it'll be easier on the wallet and on the gut too.

[Acura604]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/548372_10150817800585709_629950708_12145334_167862 1408_n.jpg

[MR_BIGGS]

Here are my thoughts on the season:

The Canucks underlying problem following the Bruins series was they could not score! They lost a dangerous offensive threat in Ehrhoff because he could create odd man rushes. Then they traded Hodgson and got no scoring in return, hedging their bets that two solid lines could get the job done with a third checking line. Kesler did not show up this series, or during the regular season.

A team gets rid of three scoring lines and goes with a third line checking line, and then changes their style to play 1-0, 2-1 games – just doesn’t work.

Regarding Hodgson, all we know is:
1) AV was not playing him enough
2) It was reported that Hodgson’s camp requested a trade
3) Gillis only made aware a handful of GM’s about Hodgson before trading him

Knowing this, I wish Gillis would have gotten a better return for Hodgson NOW. Maybe a full summer of training with Canucks coaching will make Kassien a more dangerous power forward, maybe it will not. Seeing this kids board work, I am actually pretty stoked to see him develop, because honestly, no one can take him off the puck. Couple that with the 21-year old actually developing and I think they may see results next year.

Regarding Kesler, after his off-season surgery, he has simply not been the same. I hate to say it, but do you cut the guy a break? Long, heart-breaking season ends, you go and get off season surgery done. Do you come back from that fresh? He just didn’t seem to have that extra gear all season. No legs. He is a good 2nd line centre.

I’m too tired to go on with the rest of this post, but I will follow intently this off season to see what Gillis does. A goalie will be moved, but who and what the hell do they get in return. Do they go sign a free agent in the off season?

Here is what scares me. Flyers beat Penguins in six without Pronger and JVR (played games 5 and 6). We lost Sedin for two games and noticed it on the rest of the lines.

[cliffhanger33]

Have nothing to look forward to every day now :okay:

[UFO]

this city is too unfair to Luongo... he deserves a better city to play in

It's only inevitable that Schneider will have to deal with the same crap if he ends up sticking around. Once he ends up playing more, we pick up on his bad habits, a few soft goals here and there, then what?

The only two UFAs that I can think of that are remotely worth a damn would be Parise & Allen. I'd love to get Bryan Allen back on this team. Big, gritty, hard nosed Canadian dman that would have no issues breaking your face if you tried to take liberties with our players

I think the Canucks have a good chance at landing Justin Schultz and he would be a great fit here but Bob Mckenzie thinks otherwise TSN’s Bob McKenzie Thinks Justin Schultz Could Sign With The Edmonton Oilers | Edmonton Journal (http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/03/29/tsns-bob-mckenzie-thinks-justin-schultz-could-sign-with-the-edmonton-oilers/)
, right handed d-man who can run a PP and play with Edler, and he would be signed to just an entry level contract.

What's the word with the Pens? Fleury took a hot dump. Man that's something if you get outplayed by Bryz...

What are the Pens going to do, hand the starter job to Brent Johnson? A big reason why the Pens were even in the playoffs was Fleury's play through the regular season, and Malkin's regular season dominance.

[RiceIntegraRS]

7seven, a thanks is coming ur way. I think u hit it right on the nail

[spideyv2]

Yup, 7seven nailed it. This team looked confused out there. Our "big" players were liabilities

[pastarocket]

One of the big questions in the NHL offseason is how the owner Aquilini, and management will respond to this first round exit from the playoffs.

I think Aquilini is really pissed at his team losing to the LA Kings in such an awful way, especially with three losses at home. He won't get to see his team advance in the playoffs. Playoff revenues are way down from last year.


I'm thinking that that owner is gonna put huge amounts of pressure on Gillis to make offseason changes to the coaching staff, resolve the goaltending situation, and come up with answers on why this team played so bad against LA.

It's gonna be an interesting summer for the Canucks.

[pastarocket]

What is concerning is the lack of urgency and clutch play from the team's forwards.

Where was the clutch play, the clutch goals from Burrows? Kesler didn't show the beast mode pushback that he displayed against the Predators last year. Zero goals in SIXTEEN games for Kes. No points from Booth, Higgins, etc.

Edler made brain cramp turnovers in the playoff series.

-The inability of Coach AV and his assistants to make adjustments in strategy fast enough in the series to counteract the LA strong forecheck.

It was so frustrating to watch the LA constantly getting turnovers in their favour as a result of their strong forecheck.

I'm gonna call team 1040 just to share my thoughts about this playoff failure.

[411ken]

It's only inevitable that Schneider will have to deal with the same crap if he ends up sticking around. Once he ends up playing more, we pick up on his bad habits, a few soft goals here and there, then what?



That's easy... then everyone will question MG's decision of keeping Schneider instead of Luongo.. lol :troll:
Then everyone will campaign to have Lack as #1 the following year lol

[Tapioca]

Some random thoughts:

Higgins: probably played with an injury of some sort, or he's suffered from yet another Staph infection which lowered his energy level

Kesler: hip surgery affected him, but I'm betting that we will never see 40 goals from him again. I knew the "Beast Mode" switch was never going to come on.

Booth: considering that he's a workout fiend, he's very weak on the puck. He has good speed, but he needs to raise his battle level and get stronger. He has only 2 moves: drive to the net or stop on the half-boards and pass (unfortunately, he has no vision)

Raymond: his best hope for the rest of his career is to settle into a PK specialist role. He won't do it with this team, however.

Malhotra: he should hang up his skates and call it a career. His play along the boards was terrible thos year and it's likely his reduced vision is playing a larger role than we've been led to believe.

Tanev: he'll never be more than a 5th/6th defenseman if he can't shoot. He needs to take 300 shots a day in the off-season to develop the confidence to shoot the puck.

Kassian: he needs a supportive coach who'll let him be the player he needs to be. He's strong on the puck (in contrast to David Booth) and has hockey sense. He should be free to take the man, even if means a bone-headed penalty every so often.

Ballard: great guy, but a victim of the system. He needs big minutes to flourish.

[highfive]

Listening to Team 1040.

Vancouver is out.
Pittsburgh is out.
Detroit is out.
San Jose is out.

Top 4 teams of the past few years are all out in the first round.

Potentially getting knocked out in the first round.

Chicao. New York. Boston.

WTF is going on? :fulloffuck:

[Tegra_Devil]

its a new generation

[411ken]

I enjoy reading CDC armchair forum lol... someone should troll in there if you have an account and put

Van gets Hodgson
Buf- gets Kassian

lol

I did like when someone put Kesler for Getzlaf though :D

[spideyv2]

Kesler for Getzlaf...i'd do that any day

Getzlaf is actually capable of making his linemates better

[Not really racist!]

Bob Muarry would get chopped to pieces if that happened lol

[GrapeDrink]

no offense to the fans of Vancouver, but in reality the only people that are calling Vancouver chokers are the guys that don't know the game and just see #1 seed falling to #8 seed, like I've said prior to the series starting, whether you believe in corsi and fenwick statistics or not, LA was posting superior underlying statistics than the Vancouver Canucks all season, and was literally #1 after the jeff carter trade.

[trancehead]

no offense to the fans of Vancouver, but in reality the only people that are calling Vancouver chokers are the guys that don't know the game and just see #1 seed falling to #8 seed, like I've said prior to the series starting, whether you believe in corsi and fenwick statistics or not, LA was posting superior underlying statistics than the Vancouver Canucks all season, and was literally #1 after the jeff carter trade.

its more than the 1st seed falling to the 8th seed

go outside in the park and take a look beyond the roses. dont choke while youre at it

and tell me more about how much you know the game

[spideyv2]

OMGYOZ CORSI AND DAT DERE FENWICK STATISTICZ B TELLIN DA GAME GNOME SAYN

[7seven]

Flyers eliminate Penguins, advance - Philly.com (http://articles.philly.com/2012-04-22/news/31382581_1_claude-giroux-danny-briere-lauren-hart)

ABOUT 10 SECONDS before the puck dropped on Sunday afternoon, shortly after "my home sweet home" simultaneously slipped from the mouths of Kate Smith and Lauren Hart, Claude Giroux circled by Danny Briere at the Flyers' bench.

"He came over to me and said, 'Watch the first shift,' " Briere said.

In one 32-second burst, Giroux quelled the fears of a quiet, on-edge, capacity crowd at the Wells Fargo Center with a first shift out of a scene in the cult-classic flick "Slap Shot." Bodies decorated the ice after three big hits. Giroux drilled Sidney Crosby, collected a pass in the neutral zone and broke across the Penguins' blue line.

"From start to finish, he made sure that the Flyers moved on to the second round," coach Peter Laviolette said. "When the best player in the world comes up to you and tells you, 'I don't know who you're planning on starting, but I want that first shift,' that says everything you need to know about Claude Giroux."

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1075853/giroux_medium.gif

G is just pure awesome, what a leader.

[The Hype]

Bob Muarry would get chopped to pieces if that happened lol

I'd personally fly down to Anaheim and go Bill the Butcher on him.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PK9sq8cgd5Q/Ty_aHV2U0gI/AAAAAAAAAeA/47dLED1puY4/s1600/500full.jpg
Centers like that do not grow on trees.

[Gh0stRider]

CanucksTV - Thank You Fans - YouTube

heh..coldplay eh

[Vansterdam]

pittsburg,detroit,sharks and nucks out

im hoping bruins,rangers, and chicago get knocked out of thefirst round as well :D

[Not really racist!]

PHX / FLR SCF? jk

[pastarocket]

I'm hoping to see a Flyers and Predators final.

-really impressed at Giroux's performance so far in the playoffs.

[Vansterdam]

i personally think we need to get rid of mason raymond in the offseason, and possibly manny malholtra

edler is really a hit or miss, he was preety solid in the regular season but man he fucken sucks during the playoffs

seems like keslar and raymond have not been the same since their injury

we were struggling since january with majority of our games winning by 1

it also seemed like vigneaut was juggling the lines way to much in the playoffs ( with adding ballard,tanev,ebbett) and putting booth on the first line wtf?

not to mention daniel was injured .. wouldof thought vigneaut would add daniel back in either game 3 or 4(wonder what outcome of game 3 would be if daniel played)

also the the trade with hodgson/kassian, i bet hodgson wouldof got the game winner in game 3 or 5.. that guy was clutch. but we shall see how kassian does in the next season.

seems like our top 6 foward couldent score for shit, with the exception of henrik for the playoffs


i think we should keep vigneault and see what happens to either goalie in the off season.


imagine we win president cups again next year :fullofwin:

[MR_BIGGS]

For the exception of Briere, not one forward on the Flyers makes more than $4.2 million.

[pastarocket]

+1. Get rid of May Ray!

[kristianhay]

Any thoughts on if you guys want Salo back for another year if he decides to play? The guy seemed pretty upset/shocked with the loss. I feel for him.

Game Day: Salo post-game raw Apr.22.12 Video - NHL VideoCenter - Vancouver Canucks (http://video.canucks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=984&id=174226)

[pastarocket]

Salo is way past his prime. The team needs to tweak the defence a bit.

Hmmm, Rick Nash does not want to stay in Columbus. I really think the Canucks need a change in identity. An impact power forward.

Nash to the Canucks!!! Make it happen Gillis.

[Bonka]

^ ^ ^

Pretty hard to watch. I think the overwhelming majority (including I) would really want to see him back, no question.

[kristianhay]

^

Yeah, for a low price he could be a good #6 guy. Definitely hard to watch.

What do you think really needs to be addressed?

-Coaching
-Defense
-Depth Scoring

[b0unce. [?]]

2m for a healthy salo is worth it.

[MR_BIGGS]

Listening to team 1040, I think I’ve drank the kool-aid and bought into some of the crazies calling in. For argument’s sake, what team do you guys consider in the best position to trade for Rick Nash?

Granted the CBA will need to be revisited and the cap will likely change, among many other things, could you see Gillis trying to make a move for him?

His cap hit is $7.8 million until 2017/18

Would you pull this trade off to try and win next season?

Ryan Kesler (no trade kicks in next season) and went to school in Ohio State, Cory Schneider and Mason Raymond

for

Rick Nash and a conditional draft pick

No I’m not saying this will happen and I’m sure there are implications, but what do you guys think it would take to land Rick Nash? Where do you see him going? I think San Jose has some chips they can play with this summer.

[highfive]

Sign Gregory Campbell to get Colin Campbell on our side. lol

[Expresso]

Listening to team 1040, I think I’ve drank the kool-aid and bought into some of the crazies calling in. For argument’s sake, what team do you guys consider in the best position to trade for Rick Nash?

Granted the CBA will need to be revisited and the cap will likely change, among many other things, could you see Gillis trying to make a move for him?

His cap hit is $7.8 million until 2017/18

Would you pull this trade off to try and win next season?

Ryan Kesler (no trade kicks in next season) and went to school in Ohio State, Cory Schneider and Mason Raymond

for

Rick Nash and a conditional draft pick

No I’m not saying this will happen and I’m sure there are implications, but what do you guys think it would take to land Rick Nash? Where do you see him going? I think San Jose has some chips they can play with this summer.
Who centers the 2nd line?

I wouldn't oppose to it, but it as likely as Luongo being traded.

[Vansterdam]

i would like to see keslar gone too but he seems to much of a fan favorite :heckno:\

well maybe not so much as a fan favorite this year haha

maybe he will heal fully in the off season and have a beast season next year

[DanHibiki]

I strongly believe Kesler just had an off season. He'll be back to normal next year.

The guy has improved year after year and played great in the olympics as well. one off year and everyone abandon ship?

[Vansterdam]

we should start a rs pool to see who gets traded by the start of next season lol

[Ronin]

OMGYOZ CORSI AND DAT DERE FENWICK STATISTICZ B TELLIN DA GAME GNOME SAYN

Stats don't lie. They don't tell the whole story but don't hate just because you don't get it.

[mb_]

Dan Murphy ‏ @sportsnetmurph Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#canucks call a presser for tomorrow morning at 10am. Gillis availability followed by player availability. No mention of Vigneault FWIW.

:accepted:

[pastarocket]

Who centers the 2nd line?

I wouldn't oppose to it, but it as likely as Luongo being traded.

+1. -not opposed to this trade either but you would need to trade for a new second line centre. If Luongo gets traded, his $5.3 million hit on the salary cap could be used to get a new centre for the second line.


Anytime you trade one of your core players away, it is a high risk/high reward scenario.

The Flyers GM made two blockbuster deals to trade Carter and Richards away to get Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, and draft picks. Philly is looking good after those trades but that doesn't mean a core player trade for the Canucks improving the team is guaranteed either.

Would Gillis roll the dice on trading a core player like Kesler? Hmmmm. I think it was an off year for Kes because of surgery for an injury.

It would be a dream to have Nash play on this team but would Gillis want to pay the huge price to get Ricky to play on the west coast?

[DanHibiki]

Regarding Rick Nash. Put it in perspective, he's making close to what Crosby is making and not even close to putting up the same production nor having that effect of naking his linemates better.

[MR_BIGGS]

Regarding Rick Nash. Put it in perspective, he's making close to what Crosby is making and not even close to putting up the same production nor having that effect of naking his linemates better.

I get what you are saying, but Nash hasn't played with any player of caliber compared to what Crosby has gotten to play with. That being said, I thought Nash was one of the best players on the Canadian men's Olympic team.

He didn't get the game winner like Crosby though...:okay:

[DanHibiki]

I get what you are saying, but Nash hasn't played with any player of caliber compared to what Crosby has gotten to play with. That being said, I thought Nash was one of the best players on the Canadian men's Olympic team.

He didn't get the game winner like Crosby though...:okay:

Crosby didn't have anyone to play with in his first seaason either. Pittsburgh was a crap team that year and he still managed 102 points.

I love Rick Nash as much as the next guy but damn, 7.9mil is a scary ass contract. Luongo is only 5.33 and playing good and look at all the flack he's getting. It won't be long til Nash gets the same treatment when he's only putting up 60-70 pts.

[Not really racist!]

Nash has proven hes a consistent 60/70 pt player though, thats for one.

Crosby's highest scoring total was actually 120 in 07 where he won the Art Ross

[MR_BIGGS]

I don't want to get into a Nash and Crosby comparison. I would rather have Crosby each and every time.

I'm just saying, Nash with some talented players around him can be an elite player.

[DanHibiki]

Nash has proven hes a consistent 60/70 pt player though, thats for one.

Crosby's highest scoring total was actually 120 in 07 where he won the Art Ross

oops ur right. where the hell did i get 136 from??

[kristianhay]

Interesting to see what will happen.

Darren Dreger
Gillis says he will speak to media Tue and Vigneault will address media later in week. Scheduling issues. Gillis meets with owners next wk.

Darren Dreger
@blakeprice1040. Gillis told me he plans to meet with ownership next wk and a # of things will be addressed...including coaching.

Darren Dreger
Gillis also recognizes he's responsible and will be accountible. Decisions won't be made overnight. Need to let things settle. #TSN

[pastarocket]

Dan Murphy's latest Tweet about the Canucks:

@sportsnetmurph

#canucks call a presser for tomorrow morning at 10am. Gillis availability followed by player availability. No mention of Vigneault FWIW.

Is a coaching change coming soon?

[TRDood]

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[cliffhanger33]

Ottawa up 1-0

yee

[cliffhanger33]

Well I guess we will be entertained enough with the off season drama between management

[clowe]

I really don't think this year's lack of success should be pinned on AV, maybe a portion but nowhere close to enough to fire him IMO. Gillis deserves as much blame as AV, possibly even more, for his questionable transactions starting with Marco Sturm.

Back to back President's trophy, 1 win away from winning the cup, 5 division titles in 6 years. If the Canucks are struggling 20 games into next season, then I might consider a change.

[TheKingdom2000]

Would any of you ever buy a canucks ring?

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[kristianhay]

I really don't think this year's lack of success should be pinned on AV, maybe a portion but nowhere close to enough to fire him IMO. Gillis deserves as much blame as AV, possibly even more, for his questionable transactions starting with Marco Sturm.

Back to back President's trophy, 1 win away from winning the cup, 5 division titles in 6 years. If the Canucks are struggling 20 games into next season, then I might consider a change.

If you read a couple posts up, Gillis knows he is accountable and responsible as well.

After 6/7 years with the team though, it's not about whether or not AV is a good coach. We all know he's a good coach and he's proven that - but we still don't have a cup. He has been out coached on numerous occasions, this series being one of them. Sometimes change is good, a coach using our players with different systems may be just what we need.

[akalic]

don cherry telling luongo to get out of vancouver

[spoon.ek9]

My only real issues with AV are his inability to adapt to other teams' play, his favouritism (a la Aaron Rome), his perpetual dog house (Ballard), and his lack of trust with young players (CoHo) other than Kassian and Tanev.

Speaking of Kassian, it took AV four consecutive playoff games (three losses) to finally figure out the kid isn't ready to make an impact. FOUR WHOLE GAMES. His TOI was as follows: 5:37, 6:00, 3:55, and 3:52.

And for the life of me, I cannot understand why AV started games 1 and 2 with MayRay on the 1st line when the combination of Lappy-Henrik-Burrows was experiencing success at the end of the season. Mason fucking Raymond, really?

I'm not going to start on trading away Coho. It's done, and it was not helpful to us whatsoever this year. It was however, rather ironic to see some people on here rave about how this trade was about winning NOW and how it was necessary to win playoff games. Dually ironic is the fact that more and more people are now admitting the trade was either bad or should have been done in the off-season instead. But I digress, Kassian is a Canuck now and I welcome his speedy development so he can contribute much more to the team.

side note: I know Kassian needs time to develop; which is why he wasn't useful in the playoffs. My point was that others were looking ahead to the playoffs thinking Kassian would somehow tear it up for us despite being a total rookie.

[Mike Oxbig]

don cherry telling luongo to get out of vancouver

watch ryan malone and teddy purcell coming this way for luongo and mason raymond

[MR_BIGGS]

Don Cherry telling Luongo to get out of Vancity!

[spoon.ek9]

I think Lu playing in Tampa makes the best sense. 50-goal scorer will make up for his occasional softies right? :troll:

hahah.. it is sad though. Lu has done so much for us and the most vocal fans just shit on him constantly. If schnu stays, eventually those same people will turn against him too. it's just the fickle fan works. no patience, no support.

[DanHibiki]

It truly is a goalie graveyard in Vancouver. Good or not. All goalies get shat on here.

[rb]

Didnt catch the coaches corner. how did Cherry tell Luongo to get out? as in you're too emo get out? or get out for your own sake, you deserve better treatment?

[MR_BIGGS]

Didnt catch the coaches corner. how did Cherry tell Luongo to get out? as in you're too emo get out? or get out for your own sake, you deserve better treatment?

HNIC. Don Cherry Coach's Corner. April 23rd 2012, 04/23/2012 - YouTube

[highfive]

Honestly, Lu might not even get traded at all. I always feel that starting Schneider is going to get hyped up by the media and everyone is thinking is Luongo going to get traded or is he going to ask for a trade?

I wouldn't be surprised that by next season, we are going to have the 1A, 1B goalies in Lu and Schneids.

[cliffhanger33]

Pretty sure its gna go to a game 7 between OTT and NYR

[Mike Oxbig]

Please dont trade Luu.

[DanHibiki]

Damn Ottawa taking dumb penalties

[Vansterdam]

lets go ottawa!

[JesseBlue]

I smell one of the ducks coming here next year...perry perhaps? Draft cant get here soon enough!

[Mike Oxbig]

I smell one of the ducks coming here next year...perry perhaps? Draft cant get here soon enough!

For what? Ducks would be stupid to unload perry. They already losing Selanne but Bobby Ryan and getzlaf will be the first to go

[invader]

Honestly, Lu might not even get traded at all. I always feel that starting Schneider is going to get hyped up by the media and everyone is thinking is Luongo going to get traded or is he going to ask for a trade?

I wouldn't be surprised that by next season, we are going to have the 1A, 1B goalies in Lu and Schneids.
You're out to lunch here. They cant afford two goalie contacts.

[SumAznGuy]

Team 1040 made some great points when John Garret was on.
Salo played 69 games this year prior to the playoffs.
Edler played 82 games.
Hamhuis played 82 games.
Bieska played 79 games.

Last year, Salo played 27 games.
Edler played 51 games.
Hamhuis played 64 games.
And Bieska played 66 games.
Erhoff played 79 games and Ballard slumped through a few more games.

Garret mentioned that since everyone played extra games and extra minutes with the loss of Erhoff, it is possible that this fatigue caused some of the sloppy play by the D.
Edler looked totally lost on the tying goal yesterday, and there were times where KB and DH were not in sync even though they were paired together for a while now.

[Vale46Rossi]

phx up 1-0

[b0unce. [?]]

holy fuck don cherry is senile. i hate coach's corner.

[Vale46Rossi]

2-0 phx

[mb_]

:awwyeah:

[punkwax]

For what? Ducks would be stupid to unload perry. They already losing Selanne but Bobby Ryan and getzlaf will be the first to go

Bobby Ryan. Want.

[fliptuner]

PHX 5min PP

[Ludepower]

I wouldn't be surprised that by next season, we are going to have the 1A, 1B goalies in Lu and Schneids.

No way...both goalies wanna be #1


;7897752']holy fuck don cherry is senile. i hate coach's corner.

He comes off very blunt...
Let the old man rant...he's a character

[DanHibiki]

I don't mind don cherry anymore. Once u look past the fact that what he says means shit all, you can sit back and enjoy him.

I was definitely miss him when he eventually passes.

[SkinnyPupp]

Looks like it'll be Phoenix

[DanHibiki]

CHICAGO DOWN, BOSTON TO GO!!! AWWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAA!

[Vale46Rossi]

3-0

Blackhawks are done! 5 mins left

[mb_]

PHOENIXXXXXX

[AzNightmare]

Gooood. Hawks are done!

[Vale46Rossi]

4-0

BLACKHAWKS DOWN

[AzNightmare]

Haha 4-0

[SkinnyPupp]

4-0 Phoenix.. man if you think we have it bad, imagine being a Hawks fan right now

[Sentinel]

Phx 4-0 with 5mins left in 3rd. Goodbye Blackhawks! :woot2:

[Ronin]

Why? Hawks won a Cup. They got theirs. If I was a Hawks fan, I'd be disappointed but then I'd go "Meh, we won in 2010."

[pastarocket]

4-0 for the desert dogs! Yeah!!! Blackhawks are going down!!!! :fuckyea:

[mb_]

All we need to wait for now is Washington upsetting Boston and our early exit won't hurt as much

[DsZ24]

bye bye blackhawks haha

[Vale46Rossi]

My playoff standing / pool is really wrong :(

Like almost everyone that I expected to win lost...

Am I the only one?

[pastarocket]

Thank goodness I had Mike Smith in a hockey pool. He's definitely the team MVP for the Coyotes.

[Gh0stRider]

the west is set