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The Official 2011/2012 Canucks Thread
see.lai
02-04-2012, 10:43 AM
Shirokov who?
Hodgson baby.
I still remember that huge thread about Shirokov on CDC. Man were they happy.
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 10:49 AM
Watching Habs and Caps prior to the Canucks. Wonder if Gomez will get one within a calender year. Haha. And with that fat contract too. Ouch.
Shirokov who?
Hodgson baby.
I still remember that huge thread about Shirokov on CDC. Man were they happy.
:lol
I remember they were praising Shirokov like the second coming of Pavel Bure.
DsZ24
02-04-2012, 11:09 AM
we need a blowout here, no more overtime games for a while.
DsZ24
02-04-2012, 11:13 AM
BEAST
spoon.ek9
02-04-2012, 11:13 AM
Kesler!!!!
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http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/beast00.jpg
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 11:13 AM
Wow. Kes! Thunderous shot!!!!!!!!!!
604778
02-04-2012, 11:13 AM
Kesler!!!
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satek
02-04-2012, 11:13 AM
kes!!
spoon.ek9
02-04-2012, 11:14 AM
LuuuuUuuuUuuuuuU
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Renthal
02-04-2012, 11:22 AM
pretty sure booth should have gotten the assist on that goal instead of rainmain… he clearly chipped it to edler along the boards
604778
02-04-2012, 11:25 AM
Shitty call.
Edit: fuuuu
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DsZ24
02-04-2012, 11:26 AM
fuuuuuu, not much you could have done there
satek
02-04-2012, 11:26 AM
:fuuuuu:
spoon.ek9
02-04-2012, 11:26 AM
Damn, perfect opportunity. No chance at saving that.
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Renthal
02-04-2012, 11:29 AM
lol "big mac-meal from mack-donalds"
Olli Jokinen and The Big Mac Meal - Feb 3, 2012 (HD) - YouTube
^McDonald's FTMFW!!!!
A shorty right now would be nice. Haven't seen it in a while.
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 11:33 AM
lol "big mac-meal from mack-donalds"
Olli Jokinen and The Big Mac Meal - Feb 3, 2012 (HD) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/2Urx2OM6s6s)
Give one to gomez...haha.
Not gonna complain too much about the anemic fans at Rogers Arena anymore....... Avalanche fans are so lame. They is just warming up the seats.
Ooh...... Bitz!
DsZ24
02-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Go bitz, not too shabby
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Big boys!!! Nice fight!!
satek
02-04-2012, 11:41 AM
bitz :ahwow:
AV was saying he has never seen this kid play. He did mention, "Big body."
Wow, the Canucks got an iffy call go their way. Thank god no finger biting going on.......... laffy out loud
b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 11:52 AM
Give one to gomez...haha.
prob Wellfed went overboard with the advice :lol
dunno if its been posted. kovalchuk fight with brayden schenn
Ilya Kovalchuk vs Brayden Schenn Feb 4, 2012 - YouTube
schenn owned :lawl:
b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 12:03 PM
w/e he was just throwing wild blind punches.
yea he was but schenn was being dragged around like a rag doll
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 12:05 PM
;7785538']prob Wellfed went overboard with the advice :lol
Yeah, but money in the shootout. :Popcorn
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 12:06 PM
Fwwwwk. Hodgie's got such a wicked shot!
604778
02-04-2012, 12:10 PM
Fuuu.
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satek
02-04-2012, 12:10 PM
:fuuuuu:
LsquareD
02-04-2012, 12:10 PM
Good job Bieksa. Sshieeet
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604778
02-04-2012, 12:31 PM
Omg...
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LSF22
02-04-2012, 12:50 PM
So Nick Kypreos says Canucks should trade Schneider to Tampa for Ryan Malone and a 1st rounder.... :fuckthatshit:
DsZ24
02-04-2012, 12:51 PM
So Nick Kypreos says Canucks should trade Schneider to Tampa for Ryan Malone and a 1st rounder.... :fuckthatshit:
I also had a wtf moment there. Shoulda turned off his mic after that comment.
Renthal
02-04-2012, 01:04 PM
fuck i hate kyprios… injury riddled malone who cant stay in the lineup for schneider…. sureee
b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 01:15 PM
sedins playing pretty shitty so far :(
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 01:18 PM
Not looking good. We need to do something with this PP.
Come on boys!
cliffhanger33
02-04-2012, 01:19 PM
We need to capitalize on this PP
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LsquareD
02-04-2012, 01:22 PM
Zzzz..
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cliffhanger33
02-04-2012, 01:26 PM
WTF is this
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Bonka
02-04-2012, 01:26 PM
39SOG so far for the Avs :seriously:
And Burr's face got raped as per Shorty...
Luongo is on like Donkey Kong, too bad we forgot how to score the last couple games
604778
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
Woooooo!!!
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Sw0op
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
BIEKSAA!!
Bonka
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
JUICE!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREAT SAVE GREAT GOAL :fullofwin:
cliffhanger33
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF bieksa
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civicyvr
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
Wooooooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
Renthal
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
WOOOOOOO!!! BIEKSA!
spoon.ek9
02-04-2012, 01:33 PM
Holy shit Juice with a godlike shift!!!
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b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
WOW BIEKSA
satek
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
holy shit......
EmperorIS
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
i think we scored.
DsZ24
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
Bieksa fuck yah
LsquareD
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
Wooo!! Made up for his giveaway earlier :)
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Vansterdam
02-04-2012, 01:34 PM
JUICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Assist to stanchion again! Juice's best bud
cliffhanger33
02-04-2012, 01:35 PM
I freaking screamed LOL
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DsZ24
02-04-2012, 01:36 PM
Ok lets get r done here. NO SHOOT OUT
bieska with the fucking diving save, bring it up, shoot it in, get the pass and BOOOM
MR_BIGGS
02-04-2012, 01:37 PM
Was just having a conversation with my friend about how Bieksa and Hamhuis haven't played too well as of lately. Then Bieksa does what he just did.
Fuck, the Canucks are lucky.
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 01:38 PM
fuck i hate kyprios… injury riddled malone who cant stay in the lineup for schneider…. sureee
Ok lets get r done here. NO SHOOT OUT
:badpokerface:
Haha........... looks like a shootout, again.
Renthal
02-04-2012, 01:42 PM
start warming up schnedier in the hallway to put him in for shootouts!
604778
02-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Shoot out .... -_-
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satek
02-04-2012, 01:43 PM
shootout time :badpokerface:
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 01:43 PM
wow. AVS 7-0 in shootout....
spideyv2
02-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Lol fuck
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civicyvr
02-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Oh boy. Come on Luuuuuuuuu!
AV pick some better shooters. Haha.
b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 01:43 PM
please pull through lu
EmperorIS
02-04-2012, 01:44 PM
I have complete confidence in Luongo
oh shit col has a shoot out streak lmao
604778
02-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Lol @ the kid.
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AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 01:44 PM
CoHo better be in that list
EmperorIS
02-04-2012, 01:46 PM
lappy troll skating
Wanna see a 12 rounder.......
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
NIce MayRay!!!!!!!!!!!
satek
02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
raymond!!
604778
02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
Raymond!!!
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LsquareD
02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
oHhhh shit! Woooo!!
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RiceIntegraRS
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
wooooooooooooooooooooo
b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
gj lu!
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
WIN!!!!!!!!
Bonka
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
Lucky win.
604778
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
Win!
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Damn, Luigi comes through today. Time to buy a lottery ticket
Renthal
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
stole that game!
great job luu
civicyvr
02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prayer answered. Lucked out on this one. Luuuuuuuuu should be at least a star today.
RRxtar
02-04-2012, 01:49 PM
Luongo sucks. he didnt keep us in the game and he sucks in the shootout and lost it for us again.
amirite?
Give Lu full props again 2nd game in a row. Canucks didn't deserve 3 of possible 4 pts in the last 2 games.
b0unce. [?]
02-04-2012, 01:49 PM
lu played well for the most part this game. sedins need to figure out w/e is throwing them off right now.
604778
02-04-2012, 01:50 PM
Colorados first shootout loss.
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Lucky win.
Totally lucky win. Colorado got ripped off by the hockey gods, 'cause our boys sucked today.
A win is a win, but it was a fugly win.
HonestTea
02-04-2012, 01:51 PM
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
satek
02-04-2012, 01:51 PM
Didn't deserve it but hey, a win is a win
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 01:53 PM
So what were the shots? Like 20-40??
RiceIntegraRS
02-04-2012, 01:54 PM
For some reason it feels really good to win a game we had no business winning
Bonka
02-04-2012, 01:55 PM
46-29
Happy for the 2pts of course but this crap is going to get the Canucks killed in the playoffs.
jeedee
02-04-2012, 01:56 PM
So what were the shots? Like 20-40??
29-46 to be exact
RRxtar
02-04-2012, 02:00 PM
soneone email the canucks and let them know the rule book says games can end in 60 minutes not 65+shootout.
Vansterdam
02-04-2012, 02:03 PM
luuuuuuuuuuu
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 02:03 PM
soneone email the canucks and let them know the rule book says games can end in 60 minutes not 65+shootout.
Should add in that it's okay to win by more than one goal
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pastarocket
02-04-2012, 02:05 PM
The team's defensive coverage in its own zone was horrible in the third period. It was Bieksa's heroics in stopping that empty net goal and putting a snapshot past Giguere that helped us win.
:bigthumb:Yay Juice! Be excellent Bieksa.
jeedee
02-04-2012, 02:07 PM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyw7yzvhux1qk17n8o1_500.gif
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyw7yzvhux1qk17n8o2_500.jpg
Gh0stRider
02-04-2012, 02:11 PM
brayden schenn got pwnd!!! WOW
DanHibiki
02-04-2012, 02:12 PM
sedins need some big macs
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 02:15 PM
For the past few shootouts,
I think all of the successful shots were from quick snap shots.
All the attempts with them skating in close didn't seem to work.
They always run out of room.
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Brooks Orpik sends Dan Paille FLYING :fullofwin:
Brooks Orpik Hit Of The Year? vs. Bruins - NHL 4/2/12 - YouTube
SpuGen
02-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Oh fuck you. I was about to post that. :(
RiceIntegraRS
02-04-2012, 02:19 PM
I think its because goalies know not to bite on the first or 2nd fake. Thats wat made Morrison and Linden so good in shootouts b4.
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Yeah, those quick snapshots are not easy to read.
Catches goalies off guard. I never expected Raymond to release a shot from there. lol
spoon.ek9
02-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Late for work just to catch OT and SO, totally worth it lol :accepted:
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pastarocket
02-04-2012, 03:49 PM
O'Brien did that horse collar move on Burrows' face in the 3rd period. What a douche. It was funny watching Burrows' and S.O.B. jawing at each other in the penalty box.
LsquareD
02-04-2012, 04:08 PM
I noticed that the past 11 out of the last 13 games we've played have been a 1 goal game. At least we're winning most of it or getting at least a point :)
sonick
02-04-2012, 04:46 PM
lol did Luongo do the Tebow after winning the shootout?
Mizter
02-04-2012, 04:56 PM
Canucks vs. Avalanche 2/4/2012 - YouTube
Gh0stRider
02-04-2012, 06:23 PM
sens on 6 game loosing streak. Anderson has allowed 18 goals since jan 23 :lawl:
Gh0stRider
02-04-2012, 06:28 PM
5 mins in, Gagner with 2 pts.
DsZ24
02-04-2012, 07:00 PM
5 mins in, Gagner with 2 pts.
End of the first and he's got 3 pts so far. Wonder how long this streak is going to last
SumAznGuy
02-04-2012, 08:07 PM
Yeah, those quick snapshots are not easy to read.
Catches goalies off guard. I never expected Raymond to release a shot from there. lol
I bet the read on Mason was either the spinorama or 2 dekes and the backhand if he comes in from his right side like he did on 3 of his last 4 attempts not including tonight.
Damn, Oilers tie the game up.............
hoping for shootout.
What a chance......... Potter
Wow, Gagne in shootout......
Yes! Oilers win!
Gotta love this young team.
MR_BIGGS
02-04-2012, 09:10 PM
11 points in 2 games for Gagne. Before his 8 point game he was traded in my hockey pool:
David Krejci traded for Sam Gagner, 1st and 4th.
AzNightmare
02-04-2012, 11:16 PM
I bet the read on Mason was either the spinorama or 2 dekes and the backhand if he comes in from his right side like he did on 3 of his last 4 attempts not including tonight.
Yeah, when I saw Raymond coming in from the right,
I thought he was for sure going to do the spinorama this time,
especially since he failed his last few attempts trying other moves.
RRxtar
02-05-2012, 12:12 AM
Bruins have won 6 of their last 13 since the Canucks beat them. And 7 of those games were against non playoff teams. They went 9 for 10 before that.
pure.life
02-05-2012, 12:43 AM
Bruins have only won 6 of their last 13 since the Canucks beat them. And 7 of those games were against non playoff teams. They went 9 for 10 before that.
Fixed
Greenstoner
02-05-2012, 01:17 AM
its early but who wants to see hawk vs canucks in first round playoff :D ?? I DO
fliptuner
02-05-2012, 07:13 AM
Nah, right now I'm just hoping they can close a few down in regulation and generally play in better form. They just don't seem to be clicking right now. As much as people want to hate on Lu, it seems like the only thing that's really solid right now is goaltending.
Gh0stRider
02-05-2012, 09:44 AM
gonna go play on rogers arena ice today, i wonder if the ice is different from the regular arenas around town.
anyone ever skate at rogers?
tonyzoomzoom
02-05-2012, 11:09 AM
i was wondering why Jim Hughson wasn't calling the Toronto / Ottawa game last night. Was hoping that the CBC didn't like his western bias and had reassigned him permanently to calling Nucks games or something like that ...
but he's actually calling the winnipeg / montreal game today :(
krazynuck
02-05-2012, 11:30 AM
awww Gomez almost scored....o well
True.True
02-05-2012, 11:50 AM
gonna go play on rogers arena ice today, i wonder if the ice is different from the regular arenas around town.
anyone ever skate at rogers?
ice is hard and buttery smooth. make sure u sharpen your skates to take advantage of good ice. and also, it is very warm compared to all the local rinks. you'll be sweating extra
spoon.ek9
02-05-2012, 02:02 PM
awww Gomez almost scored....o well
:lawl: happy 1yr anniversary gomez! :lawl:
gonna go play on rogers arena ice today, i wonder if the ice is different from the regular arenas around town.
anyone ever skate at rogers?
It's an awesome experience. Enjoy it
Hemsky gets Kronwalled 02.04.2012 - YouTube
haha
http://i.imgur.com/KIxuX.jpg
JesseBlue
02-05-2012, 03:07 PM
4 mins for roughing for that hit?
Tim Budong
02-05-2012, 03:15 PM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/t72HwveBb14jBV2oNtD_WA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/137016724.jpg
em1.ac
02-05-2012, 03:33 PM
O'Brien did that horse collar move on Burrows' face in the 3rd period. What a douche. It was funny watching Burrows' and S.O.B. jawing at each other in the penalty box.
I watched that. I can understand why Burrows was pissed. Once he was on his back and S.O.B. kept Burrows face covered, he flipped! I would of done the same thing. +1 for Burrows sticking up for himself. S.O.B is sometimes a d**k
TheKingdom2000
02-05-2012, 03:38 PM
gonna go play on rogers arena ice today, i wonder if the ice is different from the regular arenas around town.
anyone ever skate at rogers?
We rented the ice a couple years ago.
The ice is very fast! you can tell the difference. But, the ice is soft at the same time? I don't really know how to explain it.
They will also zamboni the ice half way through your session. So it'll be all good the whole time.
I think the best part for us was parking in the underground and changing in the changing room. You don't get the Canucks change room, but you get to change in the same rooms as the away teams.
4 mins for roughing for that hit?
Commentators fucked up. They meant Potter got 4 mins for roughing for going after Kronwall. Marc Lee and Kevin Weekes are just turds with no journalistic merit.
Sentinel
02-05-2012, 05:16 PM
gonna go play on rogers arena ice today, i wonder if the ice is different from the regular arenas around town.
anyone ever skate at rogers?
How much is it to rent it?
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Tim Budong
02-05-2012, 05:19 PM
How much is it to rent it?
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the ice is SO SOFT at RogerArena
i friggin love it
ahaha
i think its likes 1300 for 2hrs
i paid 55 split between 24 skaters last time i played there..but this was a year ago
^ Still about the same now.
I thought the ice was pretty solid and pretty fast. Definitely need freshly sharpened skates to fully enjoy it!
DanHibiki
02-05-2012, 05:26 PM
congrats gomez!!
b0unce. [?]
02-05-2012, 06:21 PM
lol gomez
b0unce. [?]
02-05-2012, 07:19 PM
:lol
http://i41.tinypic.com/21oa1zd.jpg
iwantaskyline
02-05-2012, 07:22 PM
;7786831']:lol
http://i41.tinypic.com/21oa1zd.jpg
:lawl: I think he got concussed by that skate to face.
Ronin
02-05-2012, 07:26 PM
I'm going to guess most NFL teams would demolish a CFL team.
jeedee
02-05-2012, 07:30 PM
....He was being sarcastic people :lol
The NFL vs CFL is like NHLers playing some low ranked top tier European team :lol
spideyv2
02-05-2012, 07:44 PM
I'm going to guess most NFL teams would demolish a CFL team.
youdontsay.jpg
Gh0stRider
02-05-2012, 08:27 PM
wow the ice is amazing!! soo smooth compared to the local rinks.
visitor dressing room with a flat screen tv...sweet
we watched the superbowl on the jumbotron as well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/TRD604/Mobile/2012-02-05183335.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/TRD604/Mobile/2012-02-05123915.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430564_10150659452575522_512510521_11194314_167384 5653_n.jpg
Gh0stRider
02-05-2012, 08:31 PM
We rented the ice a couple years ago.
The ice is very fast! you can tell the difference. But, the ice is soft at the same time? I don't really know how to explain it.
They will also zamboni the ice half way through your session. So it'll be all good the whole time.
I think the best part for us was parking in the underground and changing in the changing room. You don't get the Canucks change room, but you get to change in the same rooms as the away teams.
we had a staff tourney so we had the zamboni out after every game almost.
b0unce. [?]
02-05-2012, 08:46 PM
The Canucks visitor room is better than most teams Home changing rooms.
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Ronin
02-05-2012, 09:09 PM
Gomez got paid infinity dollars per goal for a whole calendar year.
;7786942']The Canucks visitor room is better than most teams Home changing rooms.
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It needs to be dark, grey and depressing. Fuck the visitors.
CorneringArtist
02-05-2012, 09:31 PM
FYI, an international American Football championship exists, and has been played every 4 years since 1999. The US has won the last two since joining that championship in 2007, and beat the shit out of Canada 50-7 in the finals last year. Keep in mind that the international US team fields players who were pretty much undrafted coming out of college, and play in European semi-pro leagues.
tl;dr: a "true" world championship does exist, but it's pretty lopsided (although Japan did go double OT vs the US in 2007).
jeedee
02-05-2012, 09:32 PM
Uh....ok.
I thought this was the Canucks thread, not NFL thread :lol
b0unce. [?]
02-05-2012, 10:03 PM
FYI, an international American Football championship exists, and has been played every 4 years since 1999. The US has won the last two since joining that championship in 2007, and beat the shit out of Canada 50-7 in the finals last year. Keep in mind that the international US team fields players who were pretty much undrafted coming out of college, and play in European semi-pro leagues.
tl;dr: a "true" world championship does exist, but it's pretty lopsided (although Japan did go double OT vs the US in 2007).
That was random
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AzNightmare
02-05-2012, 10:05 PM
I heard the worst NFL team can probably beat the best CFL team. :lol
Ronin
02-05-2012, 10:09 PM
There needs to be a champions league of hockey. A mini-tournament for the winner of each of the leagues like the NHL, KHL, Swedish Elite League, German Elite League, Swiss, whatever.
AzNightmare
02-05-2012, 10:10 PM
^ That would be cool. What are the difference in talent between NHL and the rest of those leagues?
spideyv2
02-05-2012, 10:16 PM
I heard the worst NFL team can probably beat the best CFL team. :lol
They obviously could. There's a reason the NFL salary cap is at $120 million, and the CFL salary cap is at $4 mill.
RRxtar
02-05-2012, 10:20 PM
that would definitely be cool. but it would probably always end up NHL - KHL - Swedish elite league for 1-2-3. altho it would be hard to get behind any team when like 5 of them are foreign and one is the bruins.
b0unce. [?]
02-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Idk, I'm sure some ahl teams could beat the ducks at the start of the season. Nothing was going their way. I guess what I'm saying, they could prob beat an nhl team that was having a bad day :lol
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jeedee
02-06-2012, 12:34 AM
They obviously could. There's a reason the NFL salary cap is at $120 million, and the CFL salary cap is at $4 mill.
lol salary caps have nothing to do with skill
There's something called being overpaying and underpaying. I'm sure you can tell which category CFL is under
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spideyv2
02-06-2012, 12:58 AM
lol salary caps have nothing to do with skill
There's something called being overpaying and underpaying. I'm sure you can tell which category CFL is under
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Agreed, but if you've ever watched a good amount of NFL games you could see the difference in playing level. I'd take the Colts over the BC Lions :lol
jeedee
02-06-2012, 01:19 AM
Don't forget the fact that CFL only has up to 3rd downs :fuckthatshit:
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411ken
02-06-2012, 07:17 AM
Trade deadline in a few weeks.. you guys hear/watch any legit rumours flying around? lol
last one i heard from a buddy was Perry going to Vancouver LOL... i'm sure that's not legit..
my top wish list would be Weber or Suter...that would solidify our D for the playoffs and eat up a lot of ice time..
BlackZRoadster
02-06-2012, 08:09 AM
Lol perry rumour was a week or two ago. Seems possible.
I would want Weber first too
Gumby
02-06-2012, 08:26 AM
Trade deadline in a few weeks.. you guys hear/watch any legit rumours flying around? lol
last one i heard from a buddy was Perry going to Vancouver LOL... i'm sure that's not legit..
my top wish list would be Weber or Suter...that would solidify our D for the playoffs and eat up a lot of ice time..
Lol perry rumour was a week or two ago. Seems possible.
I would want Weber first too
:facepalm:
Guys, we are NOT going to get a top defense guy like Weber or Suter at the trade deadline.
Once again, we are going to get a 3rd/4th line guy and/or prospects at most.
Edit: The only reasonable rumour I've heard is a pitch for Travis Moen. For who in exchange, I can't remember.
Mike Oxbig
02-06-2012, 08:34 AM
Our 3rd and 4th line is already solid, with steve reinprecht as a spare. We need a bottom pairing defense men who can block shots, hit and add grit. Cory Sarich would be sweet addition to this team but that dude is on the flames right now... As far as i can remember he was swimming like hasek blocking shots during the bolts cup run. Maybe thats why calgary flames decided to sign him. :lol
highfive
02-06-2012, 09:01 AM
It would be hard to anyone like Weber or Suter without denting a big chunk of your roster. Gillis would be insane to screw any chemistry we have as a team.
Plus prices during trade deadline is gonna be crazy, I don't even know if you can trade for Higgins and give up Oberg and a 3rd Round.
IMO, best trade would be a 5th for shit load of bubble wrap and we wrap it all around Salo hoping he will play through the entire playoffs.
b0unce. [?]
02-06-2012, 09:09 AM
KOBASEW FINED $2,500 FOR TRIP ON CANUCKS' HAMHUIS
NEW YORK -- Colorado Avalanche forward Chuck Kobasew has been fined US$2,500 for his trip on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Dan Hamhuis in Saturday's game.
The NHL announced the fine Monday.
The incident occurred at 13:20 of the second period. Kobasew received a minor penalty for tripping Hamhuis as the Vancouver player touched the puck on an icing call.
The fine, which goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund, is the maximum allowed under the NHL's collective bargaining agreement.
Kobasew fined $2,500 for trip on Canucks' Hamhuis (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=387072)
Mike Oxbig
02-06-2012, 09:12 AM
Cory Sarich & Ray Whitney please!
BlackZRoadster
02-06-2012, 09:16 AM
:facepalm:
Guys, we are NOT going to get a top defense guy like Weber or Suter at the trade deadline.
Once again, we are going to get a 3rd/4th line guy and/or prospects at most.
Edit: The only reasonable rumour I've heard is a pitch for Travis Moen. For who in exchange, I can't remember.
Have you ever heard of a "Want".
E.G. I want her so badly!!111!!1... Does that mean i'm gonna be getting her just because i said I want her?
:lawl:
spoon.ek9
02-06-2012, 09:27 AM
^ you said "seems possible". none of those trades would benefit Anaheim/Nashville :P
AzNightmare
02-06-2012, 10:30 AM
I think a trade possibility is as simple as whether Gillis wants to move Schneider or not.
Any minor trade without Schneider in the package for a big return from the other team is redundant at this point.
Our 3rd and 4th lines are pretty solid.
BlackZRoadster
02-06-2012, 10:31 AM
^ you said "seems possible". none of those trades would benefit Anaheim/Nashville :P
i said the Perry deal is possible. It still is possible. :pokerface:
Regarding the "wants" was refering to weber, which i know won't happen.
AzNightmare
02-06-2012, 10:33 AM
Don't know why the Perry deal would be possible, because Anaheim doesn't need a goalie...
spideyv2
02-06-2012, 10:41 AM
SJS put Andrew Murray on waivers. BOS puts Zach Hamill on waivers. And, as reported earlier, CAR puts Anthony Stewart on waivers.
Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie)
I honestly wouldn't mind Anthony playing on our bottom 6. Too bad we're almost at 50 contracts though
pastarocket
02-06-2012, 10:41 AM
A trade to bolster the defence is possible. Travis Moen as a trade target has some merit. The team has been giving up so many shots in the past three games. The Canucks will need more depth on defense in order to go deep into the playoffs.
Yeah, a fantasy league scenario to get Corey Perry or Shea Weber would be awesome. It's just that the price to acquire either player may be too high for Gillis.
i want to see the nucks go after the following at the trade deadline
samuel pahlsson/travis moen/ john madden
Visnovsky(only reason i put him here is because hes probably th ebest dman available at the trade deadline and with salo gone next year its a good replacement with another year left on his contract)
the ones who seem to be on the tradeblock are
raymond, ballard and malholtra.(hodgson and hansen have stepped up while raymond is still recovering from the injury, he seems like the odd man out of the top 9)
jeedee
02-06-2012, 11:18 AM
Moen on the 3rd/4th line would be a perfect fit on the Canucks
Nick Kypreos proposed Schneider to TB for a 1st rounder and Malone :heckno:
I'm only interested in MG picking up a top 4 dman who can play the right side with Edler, just incase Salo goes down.
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Gh0stRider
02-06-2012, 11:25 AM
Seattle named as a possible NHL city for relocated Coyotes
SEATTLE — Could the National Hockey League be on its way to Seattle?
That's the chatter just south of the border, after an article appeared in the Seattle Times (and online at seattletimes.nwsource.com) over the weekend, stating there was speculation the struggling Phoenix Coyotes franchise could land in the Emerald City.
Citing ESPN.com as the source, the Times quoted NHL commissioner Gary Bettman as saying: "There are a lot of people who think Seattle would be a great place to have a team. The Pacific Northwest, the natural rivalry with Vancouver, another team in the Pacific time zone ... but there's no building."
Seattle in recent years has been considered a possible destination for the NHL, as have Kansas City and Quebec City.
The Times also reported that talks to build a brand new sports arena in Seattle had begun as early as June 16 between city officials and San Francisco multimillionaire Christopher Hansen.
Hansen is a native of Seattle, and has expressed interest in building an arena south of Safeco Field with the desire to bring an NBA franchise back to the Pacific Northwest, after the Super Sonics left for Oklahoma City in 2008, according to the Times.
At the beginning of June, the TV station KIRO 7 reported that sources indicated Chicago businessman Don Levin had visited Seattle to meet with "various stakeholders about the new arena," adding initial speculation that a new venue could house both an NHL and NBA franchise.
© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun
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that would create an instant and awesome rivalry. especially considering theres some pretty hardcore canucks fans in washington
highfive
02-06-2012, 11:44 AM
If that happens...Vancouver is like surrounded with crappy teams to play against...Calgary, Edmonton, and Seattle???
It's only a matter of time until Edm is a solid, consistent team again.
Ronin
02-06-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm going to ban the next person to mention Weber or Perry to the Canucks as anything close to a possibility. No, they are not possibilities. They are not even remote possibilties. They aren't even a long shot. THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE. Wayne Gretzky coming out of retirement to play for the Canucks is more likely than the Preds trading Weber to the Canucks at the deadline. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
Just so it's fair, if either of those guys is traded to the Canucks by Feb 27th, I will ban myself.
Not even kidding. Sick of this garbage. I'm all for armchair GMing but try to do it without sounding like a moron.
Just stop. You know nothing about hockey if you think Shea Weber will be playing for us by the time the playoffs roll around.
Simulated
02-06-2012, 11:55 AM
i hope they can get that arena and bring back nba and get the nhl in seattle. i would love to make a roadtrip down to watch the canucks.
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had to post this. its not weber or perry. "legit source" :troll:
Eklund Leafs,Kings,Hawks and Canucks are favourites for Nash.
:troll:
honestly posting shit about weber and perry at the deadline is as bad as eklund, please stop.
Cr33pUh
02-06-2012, 12:19 PM
What about Suter?:troll:
BlackZRoadster
02-06-2012, 12:23 PM
had to post this. its not weber or perry. "legit source" :troll:
Eklund Leafs,Kings,Hawks and Canucks are favourites for Nash.
:troll:
honestly posting shit about weber and perry at the deadline is as bad as eklund, please stop.
lol and ? The worse of Eklund is more informative and important than anyone that post in this thread.
spideyv2
02-06-2012, 12:23 PM
I'm going to ban the next person to mention Weber or Perry to the Canucks as anything close to a possibility. No, they are not possibilities. They are not even remote possibilties. They aren't even a long shot. THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE. Wayne Gretzky coming out of retirement to play for the Canucks is more likely than the Preds trading Weber to the Canucks at the deadline. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
Just so it's fair, if either of those guys is traded to the Canucks by Feb 27th, I will ban myself.
Not even kidding. Sick of this garbage. I'm all for armchair GMing but try to do it without sounding like a moron.
Just stop. You know nothing about hockey if you think Shea Weber will be playing for us by the time the playoffs roll around.
Raymond, Ballard, Schneider, 1st Rounder
for
Nash
:troll:
edit- obviously troll is obvious, but according to Ecklund - this is a legit rumor.
Durrann
02-06-2012, 12:24 PM
Higgins had a reaction to medication he was taking while facing staph infection
Poor guy
SumAznGuy
02-06-2012, 12:26 PM
^ you said "seems possible". none of those trades would benefit Anaheim/Nashville :P
May benefit Nashville since talks with Suter has stopped and are not expected resume. If Nashville can trade Suter before the end of the season, that is something they will get back unlike what happened to Toronto and Sundin.
Too bad Nashville is doing so well so a trade doesn't seem too likely.
lol and ? The worse of Eklund is more informative and important than anyone that post in this thread.
Ummm.. You know he just goes around from forum to forum looking for trade proposals and then uses them right?
example hfboards, cdc. its been proven countless times
jeedee
02-06-2012, 12:31 PM
lol and ? The worse of Eklund is more informative and important than anyone that post in this thread.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly9evs3Qrx1qcmdd4.gif
spideyv2
02-06-2012, 01:26 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly9evs3Qrx1qcmdd4.gif
After all, he is the same douche who thought he could take advantage of the TD pricing error.
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Renthal
02-06-2012, 01:46 PM
Rumour that nash wants to be traded, "Friends of nash say he wants to be traded"
Shannon on NHL: Nash rumours becoming reality? - sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/02/06/shannon_on_nhl/)
BlackZRoadster
02-06-2012, 01:56 PM
After all, he is the same douche who thought he could take advantage of the TD pricing error.
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Are you the douche that had your car stolen and tried to rip ppl off selling stolen phones?
InvisibleSoul
02-06-2012, 02:23 PM
Just so it's fair, if either of those guys is traded to the Canucks by Feb 27th, I will ban myself.
For how long?
sindragon
02-06-2012, 02:44 PM
Raymond, Ballard, Schneider, 1st Rounder
for
Nash
:troll:
rofl i rather have those 4 than nash (whos making 7.5mil i think?).... you crazy.. and 1st rounder?!? :lawl:
7.8 mill for nash ...
raymond 2.5
ballard 4.2
schneider 900k
jeedee
02-06-2012, 02:55 PM
Gillis isn't going to acquire a forward that has a higher salary than the Sedins.
spideyv2
02-06-2012, 03:13 PM
Are you the douche that had your car stolen and tried to rip ppl off selling stolen phones?
Selling stolen phones? Not me bro
I am the douche who had my car stolen way back when tho
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pastarocket
02-06-2012, 03:17 PM
Hockeyblogger Ecklund is at it again. The Nash trade winds into Vancouver are being fanned by this dude:
HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - LA, Van, Chicago, Toronto Lead Push for Nash. Canadiens, Wings, Semin+ (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/LA-Van-Chicago-Toronto-Lead-Push-for-Nash-Canadiens-Wings-Semin/1/41936)
jeedee
02-06-2012, 03:18 PM
Here's a tip:
Don't even bother posting anything Eklund-related
HonestTea
02-06-2012, 03:21 PM
Hockeyblogger Ecklund is at it again. The Nash trade winds into Vancouver are being fanned by this dude:
HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - LA, Van, Chicago, Toronto Lead Push for Nash. Canadiens, Wings, Semin+ (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/LA-Van-Chicago-Toronto-Lead-Push-for-Nash-Canadiens-Wings-Semin/1/41936)
SEMIN TO RED WINGS?!! LOL?
RRxtar
02-06-2012, 03:56 PM
Ill say this right now. Schneider isn't going anywhere at the trade deadline. The canucks are aiming for another cup run and MG knows they simply cannot ride Lu soley with a no minute back up. The Canucks are good when Cory and Lu are playing well.
We are not trading Schneider. We are not getting a top 2 lines forward. We are not getting a top 4 defense man. We may get a key 4th liner or a 5/6/7 D man. but nothing else.
b0unce. [?]
02-06-2012, 04:38 PM
I foresee a somewhat small trade. I think we'll acquire one or 2 guys for the 3rd/4th line. I'd like to see a guy like paul gaustad, sean bergenheim, or maybe we need a token black guy like joel ward.
spideyv2
02-06-2012, 04:59 PM
;7787913']I foresee a somewhat small trade. I think we'll acquire one or 2 guys for the 3rd/4th line. I'd like to see a guy like paul gaustad, sean bergenheim, or maybe we need a token black guy like joel ward.
Ward getting paid 3 mill and only has 5 goals this season :heckno:
he had more in the preds playoff run last year
b0unce. [?]
02-06-2012, 05:04 PM
Ward getting paid 3 mill and only has 5 goals this season :heckno:
he had more in the preds playoff run last year
well, i mean i'm looking at some guys who had pretty decent playoff runs. we all know our team could use more playoff performers.
bergenheim was pretty much the only person scoring for tampa last year and ward did pretty well himself.
Not really racist!
02-06-2012, 05:09 PM
7.8 mill for nash ...
raymond 2.5
ballard 4.2
schneider 900k
not sure if srs...
we need D but we trade for offense while losing goaltending and d? lol ok
DanHibiki
02-06-2012, 05:11 PM
I think Schneids is more valuable to us for the playoffs than Nash
7+ million to spend on 1 d-man, whether you trade for him or sign him, is one of the worse places to spend your cap space IMO. Weber is a great solid d-man and he'd certainly fill seats, but when was the last time the Canucks not sell out their rink? I would never spend that much dough on a single player playing D. I would way rather have 2x 3.5-4M d-men, the gap between a 4M and a 7M d-man is not justifiable IMO. Similar situation with goaltenders in today's NHL, the level of performance between 4M and 7M isn't THAT big.
The gap between a 4M and 7M forward however is much different. Unless your name is Gomez.
jeedee
02-06-2012, 05:48 PM
I would way rather have 2x 3.5-4M d-men, the gap between a 4M and a 7M d-man is not justifiable IMO.
When was the last time you've seen a Norris candidate who makes 4M?
Even if it means paying Weber 7-8M for long term, I'd do it. He's that missing top 4, right side dman, right hand shot the Canucks are missing.
Salo is retiring after this season so who plays with Edler then? Tanev? BALLARD?
I know it's impossible to get him at the deadline, but there is a possibility he signs a 1 year deal to stay in Nashville this offseason, becomes a UFA the year after and go where he pleases. Hamhuis did get his signing rights traded TWICE, and still signed with the Canucks with a hometown discount. It's POSSIBLE, Weber could do the same.
But as Ronin mentioned, there is no chance Weber gets traded this deadline. It's more of a realistic situation that I posted above than Perry or Nash coming to the Canucks :lawl:
Who knows though.
Gh0stRider
02-06-2012, 05:53 PM
@TEAM1040
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins left the Oilers game early & didn't return after re-aggravating his left shoulder
DanHibiki
02-06-2012, 05:59 PM
Maybe we can work a deal with NYR and pay only part of Wade Redden's contract? :troll:
I had to type that up quickly at work. Someone asked for salary of players
Face it, no big splash is being made at deadline.
not sure if srs...
we need D but we trade for offense while losing goaltending and d? lol ok
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b0unce. [?]
02-06-2012, 06:06 PM
When was the last time you've seen a Norris candidate who makes 4M?
Well, right now Edler has a pretty good shot at Norris and he's making 3.5M I think? Under 4M def. :badpokerface:
SpuGen
02-06-2012, 07:02 PM
Not even gonna bother editing out his name.
Chris Hoppie
Remember these words "Leafs win cup in the next 5 years"
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When was the last time you've seen a Norris candidate who makes 4M?
Even if it means paying Weber 7-8M for long term, I'd do it. He's that missing top 4, right side dman, right hand shot the Canucks are missing.
My point is you don't need a Norris candidate to win the cup. 2 solid middle of the line D man will do much more down the line for you than a single Norris candidate who makes the same salary as the 2 combined.
If we need to bring in a 8M d-man to play with Edler, then maybe Edler isn't as good as we all think he is? Remember Edler will be up for new money too, and he is realistically a 5+M player. So you want to have 12+M tied up in your top D pairing?
MG should have learned his lesson with signing big $ UFA's in Sundin. If for whatever reason he lands Weber at anything more than 5M a year, I will be disappoint, but I'm sure there will be many wet dreams at the near mention of Weber in a Canuck uniform.
Ronin
02-06-2012, 07:18 PM
What about Suter?:troll:
Suter, being a pending UFA and perpetual second fiddle to Weber (who is the captain, the face of the franchise, the Norris candidate) so while it is so extremely unlikely that we would put something together that would somehow convince one of the best GMs in the NHL to make an absolutely ridiculous trade to a conference rival that ousted their team from the playoffs last year what could possibly be the final piece to the Canucks winning the Stanley Cup and therefore probably beating them AGAIN this playoffs...
...it's extremely unlikely but not beyond the realm of possibility.
Actually, no the more I think about it, the stupider the idea of the Canucks trading for Suter and the Preds actually taking the trade is. So yes, it is impossible for the Canucks to get Suter.
The trade would be enormous to get Nashville to put it above their own playoff run and a trade that enormous wouldn't be in the Canucks favor...and Mike Gillis isn't retarded.
So think about your fucking trades. It's damned near impossible anyone in the top-8 spots in the West is going to trade with each other before the deadline and it's even more impossible for a trade of that magnitude (top pair D man for what has to be Schneider or Hodgson plus Raymond, and something else.) to happen between conference rivals at this time of the year. I wouldn't even expect a big trade from anyone still in the playoffs to the Canucks. It will be from bottom feeders and bubble teams from the East (i.e. Montreal).
Ronin
02-06-2012, 07:21 PM
For how long?
For as long as that player is with the Canucks.
But if they don't get traded, I get to ban whoever brings up the possibility of their trades for the length of time those players are not in Canucks uniforms.
So if they are traded to the Canucks at the draft, your ban is til then. If they never get traded to the Canucks, well...
In response to Canucks not needing a number 1 dman. Most teams if not all that win the championship have a defenceman who was considered a number 1 dman at that time. The Canucks do not have that type of dominating dman. They have 2's and 3's. Only exception I really see is the Hurricanes. Many will look at foote and question me but during those times he was a number 1 shut down dman in the trap era same with hatcher. Most if not all of these were/are norris candidates, coincidence? too go with this each team had a 3rd and 4th line that always had veteran that was a proven playoff performer. draper, madden, keane, anderchyuk, recchi etc
1994 New York Rangers - leetch
1995 New Jersey Devils -niedermeyer stevens
1996 Colorado Avalanche - foote
1997 Detroit Red Wings - lidstrom
1998 Detroit Red Wings -lidstrom
1999 Dallas Stars - zubov, hatcher
2000 New Jersey Devils - niedermeyer, stevens
2001 Colorado Avalanche - bourque, foote, blake
2002 Detroit Red Wings - lidstrom
2003 New Jersey Devils - niedermeyer
2004 Tampa Bay Lightning - boyle
2006 Carolina Hurricanes -
2007 Anaheim Ducks - niedermeyer, pronger
2008 Detroit Red Wings - lidstrom
2009 Pittsburgh Penguins - letang
2010 Chicago Blackhawks - keith
2011 Boston Bruins - chara
Not really racist!
02-06-2012, 07:25 PM
^ i was just about to post that shit
:fulloffuck:
jeedee
02-06-2012, 07:41 PM
So you want to have 12+M tied up in your top D pairing?.
I wouldn't mind 12M tied up LONG TERM.
MG's mindset is to be have a winning franchise like Detroit. If it means spending 12M on 2 Norris-type defencemen for 6+ years, so be it.
I was just about to post what dbaz just did :lol. Edler could possibly be a Norris candidate, but he's still a #2 defencemen.
My god do I miss Ehrhoff.
PornMaster
02-06-2012, 07:43 PM
Not even gonna bother editing out his name.
Chris Hoppie
Remember these words "Leafs win cup in the next 5 years"
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That guy lol?
hes been saying leafs will win the cup since elementary school like 2002? HAHAHA
That list is no coincidence, but it also does not tell the whole story. In the last 10 years, only 2 d-men have won the Conn Smythe. Chara, Keith, and Letang did not win their teams the cup. And people are expecting that if a Weber comes here he will come in bringing the cup with him...how about no. How many predicted that Boston would win the cup prior to the start of the 2010 season? They barely, just barely got by Tampa in the East finals. If Tampa had made it through, and won, who would their Norris player be?
Hey, it'd be great to have a Norris candidate/winner on our team. You need to think about what it costs to bring in somebody like that. You trade for that player, you are FOR SURE leveraging a big part of your team's future and likely a big part of the present. You sign that player, you are FOR SURE eating up a big chunk of your cap space or giving out a silly term. Either of these tradeoffs will leave the team worse off than without the Weber-type player. Getting this Weber-type player is not the final piece that guarantees the Canucks the cup, nothing guarantees it.
Seriously you are arguing that because they don't win a conn smythe they arnt worth it? Conn Smythe is usually based on stats. Most points, saves, shut outs. It rarely ever goes to the dman that logs 30+ mins a game against the oppositions top players every game. Honestly Id sell the farm for a #1 dman, or if luongo/schnieder was requested in the deal too Id do it. With 2 good goalies either is worth giving up for the dman. The canucks have the lineup for years to compete. The top 3 lines are basically set for the next 5 years. Due to rfa, long term contracts and people that want to stay here. They are missing the veteran leader that can be acquired easily at the deadline and a dominating dman, that is it. Realistically it wont happen before the playoffs. But it is possible to acquire before next year.
jeedee
02-06-2012, 07:52 PM
That list is no coincidence, but it also does not tell the whole story. In the last 10 years, only 2 d-men have won the Conn Smythe. Chara, Keith, and Letang did not win their teams the cup. And people are expecting that if a Weber comes here he will come in bringing the cup with him...how about no. How many predicted that Boston would win the cup prior to the start of the 2010 season? They barely, just barely got by Tampa in the East finals. If Tampa had made it through, and won, who would their Norris player be?
The Conn Smythe is an irrelevant trophy. It always goes to the top point getter in the playoffs, or to the goalie who had monster stats. Both of which, do not involve defencemen.
Chara, Keith, and Letang DID help their teams the cup. It's not "if a Weber", it's "IF Weber" comes here he WOULD help the Canucks win the cup. Just look at the impact Ehrhoff did for the Canucks. Weber is just a bigger upgrade over a Ehrhoff-less, Canucks squad.
If Tampa Bay made it through and won, they wouldn't have one. Correct. However, Carolina didn't have a Norris player either. Which would make TB another exception just like Carolina.
I wouldn't mind 12M tied up LONG TERM.
MG's mindset is to be have a winning franchise like Detroit. If it means spending 12M on 2 Norris-type defencemen for 6+ years, so be it.
I was just about to post what dbaz just did :lol. Edler could possibly be a Norris candidate, but he's still a #2 defencemen.
My god do I miss Ehrhoff.
Ehrhoff was awesome, but for what he held out for and got, I would have told him to go take a hike too.
You won't consider Edler a #1 d-man but you will with Ehrhoff though? C'mon
If we win the cup this year and Edler continues his development, he'll be added to that list dbaz posted and this discussion will be moot. Except for the fact that we don't need Weber.
Edler isnt a number one even if we win, hes still number 2. He isnt dominate enough yet. Ehrhoff wasnt a number 1 either nor never will be. He god mad money for his offensive talent fromm a team with no offensive dmen
jeedee
02-06-2012, 07:58 PM
Ehrhoff was awesome, but for what he held out for and got, I would have told him to go take a hike too.
You won't consider Edler a #1 d-man but you will with Ehrhoff though? C'mon
If we win the cup this year and Edler continues his development, he'll be added to that list dbaz posted and this discussion will be moot. Except for the fact that we don't need Weber.
IF he took the Bieksa contract he was offered, would you tell him to hike aswell?
I would consider Ehrhoff the Canucks' #1 d-man, LAST year. Just look at what he did for the powerplay last year vs the powerplay this year.
So let me get this straight. Lets just assume Weber is available. You think the Canucks don't need him? Look at next years roster minus the UFA's [aka Salo] and tell me again the Canucks don't want/need him.
dinamix
02-06-2012, 08:07 PM
who needs dmen when you got the sedins and 2 sick goalies
jeedee
02-06-2012, 08:09 PM
notsureifsrs
I brought up the Conn Smythe because people are touting Weber as the final piece guaranteeing us the Cup. He is not.
And I can argue Weber's offensive upside is overrated due to playing on a team with no offense period.
If 'hoff took Bieksa's contract, that would be fine. He did not, he's getting paid 10M this year and his 4M cap hit will be with him for 9 more years. Right now, he is at best a 5M d-man. 3-5 years from now, maybe only a 2M player. Definitely not the franchise type player his 10 year 40M contract says he is. The Canucks PP was on fire prior to this recent funk and that was without Ehrhoff or any 'true' #1 d-man.
EVERY team needs and would love Weber, heck I'd love my top 4 d-men to all be Norris caliber if we're going to play that extreme. But the question is does our current team need a top prospect+current roster player or 2 (depth)+a first rounder more or a single Weber more? No I don't think we NEED a Weber at 7-8M. We need a Weber at 5M, whether its actually Weber or not remains to be seen.
Whether its through UFA or through trades, the market price for a bonafide #1 d-man is too high. You sacrifice too much of your current roster or your future to get this guy, and I for one don't think the returns are there to make it worthwhile.
Ronin
02-06-2012, 08:15 PM
who needs dmen when you got the sedins and 2 sick goalies
We did.
Last year.
A healthy Hamhuis could've tipped the balance.
punkwax
02-06-2012, 08:15 PM
I hate to say this, but...
If Boston didn't have Chara there is a strong argument that the Canucks would have won the Cup. A legit #1 D man may not single handedly win you a Cup, but he may stop another team's best players from doing it.
...I threw up in my mouth a little.
dinamix
02-06-2012, 08:18 PM
We did.
Last year.
A healthy Hamhuis could've tipped the balance.
no. thomas happened. injuries are part of the game.
the d-men argument is dumb. almost 90% of the teams in the playoffs have stud defensemen. its whether or not they show up or not.
jeedee
02-06-2012, 08:25 PM
And I can argue Weber's offensive upside is overrated due to playing on a team with no offense period.
Whether its through UFA or through trades, the market price for a bonafide #1 d-man is too high. You sacrifice too much of your current roster or your future to get this guy, and I for one don't think the returns are there to make it worthwhile.
Are you serious? The guy was 4th in goals scored by a dman 2 years ago, 5th in goals by a dman last year and tied for 3rd scored by a dman this year on a team with NO offense. Imagine him with an offensive team like the Canucks.
That's the thing though. #1 d-men don't grow on trees. The guy is only 26, and has yet to reach his full potential. I get what you're saying about the price being too high for him, but if it meant giving up the future or signing him to a long term contract; I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Like you mentioned earlier about having 2, 3.5-4M dmen. Here's the thing though. We just need that ONE offensive, right side, right hand shot dman. Not 2.
the d-men argument is dumb. almost 90% of the teams in the playoffs have stud defensemen. its whether or not they show up or not.
"It's whether or not they show up or not". The same can be said for forwards and goalies.
Mike Oxbig
02-06-2012, 08:35 PM
I hate to say this, but...
If Boston didn't have Chara there is a strong argument that the Canucks would have won the Cup. A legit #1 D man may not single handedly win you a Cup, but he may stop another team's best players from doing it.
...I threw up in my mouth a little.
wtf :lawl:
burrows walked around chara game 1 & 2, it was tim thomas who stole the cup from us when luongo called him out!
Carolina did not have a norris caliber defencemen because the whole team including top lines were playing defence. It was very impressive!
RiceIntegraRS
02-06-2012, 08:38 PM
All this trade talk debating is actually starting to give me a headache. I have complete faith MG will make the right moves at the deadline, cause his goals are the same as our expectations. A Stanley Cup.
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