[ilovebacon]

damn.....

[spideyv2]

inb4 "a point is a point" :rukidding:

We're still saving ourselves for the playoffs, remember?
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[fishCak3s]

fartttttttttttttttttttttt

[MG1]

Well, there's always tomorrow............


Ooooooh.......... Jennifer Hedger!

[SkinnyPupp]

So will Keith be suspended ya think?

[DanHibiki]

So will Keith be suspended ya think?

Without a question. It was so blatant.

[Great68]

The Price is Right losing horn - YouTube

[ShyGuy]

wow we've been on a terrible slide since the trade deadline.

[UFO]

Despite the loss, I'd say it was a decently played game overall. Shows the 'switch can be flipped'. Or maybe I've just been watching too much poor hockey and I'm jaded.

[SkinnyPupp]

wow we've been on a terrible slide since the trade deadline.
They haven't played well at all in 2012. The only thing going for them was the power play, but since that died down at the trade deadline, you can really tell how poor they really are. The goalies will steal them a point or two here and there, but overall they aren't very good this year, and I don't like their chances in the playoffs

:okay:

[Great68]

1 flukey goal, and then outshot 37 to 24. GREAT GAME!

[cliffhanger33]

Fuu
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[mb_]

So will Keith be suspended ya think?

If Bieksa doesn't get to him when he tries to leave the building

[seakrait]

wow we've been on a terrible slide since the trade deadline.

don't know if this has been posted already but:

from passittobulis: if the canucks look unmotivated, that's probably by design

Vancouver hockey fans rarely reach a consensus on anything, but I think we all agree that the Canucks looked unmotivated and disinterested on Monday night in Minnesota.

It was the Canucks’ 7th loss in 10 games, leading the cynics — who see everything as a conspiracy (including the rhetoric of any suspected non-cynics) — to freak. Some called for Alain Vigneault’s head once again, claiming the team had tuned him out, that his time here was done, and that the team should fire their coach 10 games from the postseason.

Level-headed thinking is not the strong suit of this pocket of Canuck nation.

But these folks have a point: if we’re assuming that Alain Vigneault is trying to wring the best and most hard-working performances out of his team — a reasonable assumption — he’s failing miserably these days. After the loss to the Wild, Canucks Army observed that, while the Canucks had 33 shots on goal, they only had 9 scoring chances. Against one of the NHL’s thinnest defense corps, it’s difficult to be that offensively inept. It’s as though the Canucks were actively trying to remain on the perimeter.

[rest of the article in spoiler]
But maybe they were. Do you know what players are less likely to sustain on the perimeter? Season-ending injuries. (Unless Johnny Boychuk’s around, amirite?)

Let’s be clear about something: the Canucks are going to finish second in the West. According to Sportsclubstats.com, the team has a 91% chance of wind up there, and an 8% chance of finishing first. (That should mean a 1% chance of finishing anywhere else, but considering these numbers have been rounded down, that chance is actually closer to zero.) In short, were Vancouver to put everything they had into the final 10 games, they would likely accomplish nothing, apart from thinning the reserves of healthy bodies available for a first-round matchup against the 7th seed.

The team is fully aware of how meaningless these games are. As Mike Gillis suggested two weeks ago, the Canucks are considering resting their players down the stretch. Purposefully icing an inferior lineup is, of course, one of those things you do when you don’t give a crap about winning.
Some have argued that the Canucks should be working to chase down the Blues, who have a fabulous record at home, but Vancouver will only see St. Louis if both teams make it through two gruelling rounds of the Western Conference playoffs. That’s hardly a guarantee. The top two seeds have met in a Conference Final just 5 out of 20 times in the last 10 years. Plus, even if it happens, among the many lessons the Canucks learned in last year’s playoffs, especially the Stanley Cup Final, having healthy bodies beats having home ice advantage.

But that’s not to say the Canucks are throwing games, because they’re not. The team is still going out in pursuit of a win, they’re just not willing to sacrifice their bodies to do it.

Canuck forwards had a grand total of zero blocked shots against the Wild. Considering Kevin Bieksa and Dan Hamhuis appear to have been accidentally hit by three pucks apiece, a game in which no forwards get in the way of a shot from the opposition should raise an eyebrow. Considering it’s the second time in three games that this has occurred — it happened versus Phoenix as well — it’s worth looking at.

Frankly, after David Backes nearly broke his foot blocking a shot against the Tampa Bay Lightning, and after Chris Higgins did break his foot blocking a shot last postseason versus the Nashville Predators, and after Ryan Johnson broke his feet about fifty times during his tenure in Vancouver, you can see why the team might be unwilling to block shots right now. All season long, the Canucks have gone out of their way to stockpile depth players for the playoffs. It seems pretty stupid to start dipping into the reserves before the games even matter, doesn’t it? That’s like eating the canned goods in the fallout shelter.

It’s not just blocked shots, though. The Canucks are shying away from contact wherever possible. We saw Ryan Kesler dodge a shoulder-to-shoulder hit with Cal Clutterbuck on Monday, for instance. But it was an odd sight. Kesler was the one coming in with speed; that was his hit. Have you ever — seriously, ever in your life — seen Kesler bail on a check? Apart from his ongoing ab-off with Chris Higgins, this guy has zero regard for his body.

The Canucks are merely running out the string, making sure that everyone’s healthy and getting the players comfortable with the different player combinations they’ll have to resort to once everyone’s not.

(Obviously, without a quote here, all of this is pure speculation, but that is, of course, how the Canucks would prefer to keep it. No one within the organization is going to go on the record as saying the team has placed avoidance of injury ahead of winning hockey games on the priority scale. But I can tell you that someone told me off the record. So there’s that.)

That’s the other thing. Rest easy, torch-wieling mob on your way to Mason Raymond’s house: the line juggling that Alain Vigneault is doing is indicative of nothing. He’s not an idiot. He knows full well that Ryan Kesler’s best linemates are Chris Higgins and David Booth. But he needs to get Raymond going now while it doesn’t matter all that much that he’s not. And can he count on having all three members of the American Express line making it through the playoffs intact? Of course not, which is why now is a good time to try out the alternate line combinations he’ll no doubt have to resort to in April and, hopefully, May and June.

The same can be said for the blueline. We all remember the Stanley Cup Final and the complete disarray the pairings found themselves in after Dan Hamhuis got hurt. Kevin Bieksa hardly played with anyone else in 2011, and it showed. He looked out of sorts with Aaron Rome and Andrew Alberts, he looked lost with Alex Edler, and he looked hopelessly lost with Keith Ballard. If Hamhuis gets injured again, even for a game, the Canucks can’t risk one of their top defenders playing the whole game from the woods.

Now, I’ve disagreed with some of the Canucks’ outside-the-box thinking in the past. I maintain, for instance, that making roster decisions based on contract flexibility rather than merit is unfair, and I didn’t like the way the Canucks took advantage of player try-out contracts to beat the veteran minimum in the preseason. I’m even on the fence about this move — effectively encouraging the players to play lazy hockey for an entire month seems like a good way to instil negative habits.
But, while these schemes are sketchy, there’s no arguing that they’re wise strategies if the primary goal is to ensure that the team has fresher players and more of them come April.

I wouldn’t get too concerned about the way the Canucks are playing. You may think they don’t look ready for the playoffs, but the fact that they’re still healthy says otherwise.

If the Canucks look unmotivated, that’s probably by design (http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/03/20/if-the-canucks-look-unmotivated-thats-probably-by-design/)

[Vansterdam]

dam why can't luongo play like this every night

even though we loss he played solid

[pastarocket]

-really dirty hit by Keith on Daniel. Damn Blackhawks. I'm hoping a team puts the "Chelsea Dagger" into that team to eliminate them from the playoffs.

That Dagger song has to be the lamest song in all of the NHL.

Get well soon Daniel!

[rsx]

-really dirty hit by Keith on Daniel. Damn Blackhawks. I'm hoping a team puts the "Chelsea Dagger" into that team to eliminate them from the playoffs.

That Dagger song has to be the lamest song in all of the NHL.

Get well soon Daniel!

That song's actually pretty good, it's annoying and in-your-face.

2nd runner up goes to Philly's Mac Miller - Knock Knock after a win.

[Tapioca]

I thought the team played pretty well in the 3rd with some Grade A scoring chances.

It was one of the those games in which a single miscue would make the difference and unfortunately, we made it with blown coverage at the blue line.

[Ronin]

At least there was some fight in the boys tonight, unlike the uninspired garbage they've been playing for the last month.

[SkinnyPupp]

At least there was some fight in the boys tonight, unlike the uninspired garbage they've been playing for the last month.
So that kind of throws the ridiculous "we're sucking on purpose" idea out the window, doesn't it?

[Mike Oxbig]

hopefully 4 games for keith, 3 for elbow and 1 for intend to injure

[pure.life]

hopefully 4 games for keith, 3 for elbow and 1 for intend to injure

bob mckenzie put it well during the intermission.. So what if Keith gets 4-5 games for an elbow..Daniel might miss more than that. Similarly, Bourque got 5 games for elbowing Backstrom earlier in the season and he's missed half the season and has just recently been skating.

Fingers crossed Daniel isn't seriously injured

[spideyv2]

Hope daniel doesnt have a concussion
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[kristianhay]

Dan Murphy
RT @adamjahns: Duncan Keith on elbowing Daniel Sedin: "I'm not trying to hurt anybody. I hope he's OK." #Blackhawks #Canucks

Dan Murphy
RT @adamjahns: Duncan Keith on whether Daniel Sedin got him first: "No, I don't think so." #Blackhawks #Canucks

Dan Murphy
RT @adamjahns: More Keith "Right at the last second, he moves forward and I don't know where the puck is. It's fast. I hope he's OK."

Regardless, I'm guessing 5 games.

More importantly, just hope that Danny is okay. Don't know what we'll do if this is a long term injury.

Also,

Dan Murphy
#canucks Henrik Sedin says D. Keith said something to the effect of "I'm going to get you" to Daniel after Daniel's 1st period hit on Keith

[SkinnyPupp]

Keith is saying the right things, but it's hard to argue that it wasn't intentional. It doesn't get much more blatant really.

I doubt it's a concussion, seems to be a sore jaw or dislocated more than anything

[UFO]

^So Keith is claiming Daniel ran his face into his high elbow? lol

Sounds like a possible jaw issue as he had an x-ray done. Don't think its a concussion as they wouldn't dare let him start the next shift if it was a concussion issue. Hoping it isn't anyways.

[spoon.ek9]

^ i think you're right. if daniel failed the quiet room testing, he wouldn't have been allowed back on ice.

[Gh0stRider]

his first head shot so i say 3 games.

[Mike Oxbig]

Canucks vs. Blackhawks 3/21/2012 - YouTube

[Alpine]

Providing Daniel comes back for the playoffs, this hit might be the best thing for the Canucks. I'm sure everyone remembers what happened the last time Daniel was out for an extended period of time. Henrik was forced to change his game - he had to cycle less and shoot & attack the net and it made him much more effective and dangerous, especially when Daniel came back. Fast forward to this year and it seems like they have fallen back to their old habits. I sincerely hope this injury is a blessing in disguise.

[68style]

Wow sarcasm from Henrik in te post game scrum "Yah well I guess they're a tough team and were the divers right?"
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[SkinnyPupp]

Wow when was the last time Henrik said anything other than canned responses?

I wonder if that is a good thing or bad :suspicious:

[cliffhanger33]

You just don't mess with his other half LOL

[mb_]

I say Keith SHOULD get rest of the season off + 3 playoff games. Too biased? A little.
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[VooDood]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xz5tiYSHGY
Wtf with the commentator......
The youtube comments are just retarded
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[Hondaracer]

The one time Danny tries to be tough and lays a decent hit he ends up with a concussion out of the game

Kinda sums up the team as a whole
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[skippynixx]

1 game contract to Bertuzzi for the next Hawks game? :troll:

[TheKingdom2000]

his first head shot so i say 3 games.

Unfortunately, I think 3 games might be it as well.
But, you never know. Lets see what shanny says.

[Tapioca]

I wouldn't be surprised if Keith gets 1 or 2 games because he has a clean record.

The Canucks played with intensity last night, but it just doesn't seem like they have the horses to get through a long spring. I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel is gone for the rest of the regular season.
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[fsy82]

according to the team 1040 daniel has been sent back to Vancouver for more tests with a specialist

[see.lai]

When do we get to know if keith gets suspended or not?
I hope danny's alright

[7seven]

When do we get to know if keith gets suspended or not?
I hope danny's alright

Keith is scheduled for a phone hearing, not an in person hearing, so whatever suspension he gets cannot be more than 5 games. I think it should be sometime today for the hearing

[Tim Budong]

The one time Danny tries to be tough and lays a decent hit he ends up with a concussion out of the game

Kinda sums up the team as a whole
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sad truth
but listenin to the the radio on the AM dial
nothing but great can be said when you notice Kesler and Burrows FINISHING CHECKS ON THE POWERPLAY IN THE OFFENSIVE ZONE

There was this sort of intensity here
And yes, Danny's been sent home
and Duncan Keith will have a phone hearing tomorrow i believe. Max games you can receive is 5 through the phone

the second sad truth to be made. Chicago could have a well rested Keith for hte playoffs if he gets the 5. Well, whats better, a well rested norris winner or a tired one.

[SkinnyPupp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k53MxoVsfgg

pretty good

[Pooface55]

The NHL needs to wake the fuck up and protect their superstars.

What the hell happened to clean but physical hockey? The blatant elbows to the head with 3 game suspensions are ridiculous. Wish the NFL was running this league.

[Gh0stRider]

According to the CBC it looks as though plans are nearly complete to host Canucks Playoff parties inside the controlled environment of BC Place Stadium. Now that the stadiums roof opens, one can consider this to be a quasi outdoor party. All this planning, in hopes of another long playoff run is being put in place in direct response to the Stanley Cup riot of 2011.

The finalized plan hasn’t been made public, so no costs have been released. Here’s hoping the Canucks pick up some of the tab for extra policing and security. It’s a drop in the bucket to them for them and a lot of the crowds come in from the surrounding ‘burbs, thus some of the burden on city taxpayers can be recouped.

For now we want to look at the pros and cons of this arrangement, if it comes to fruition:

Pros

Controlled environment, keeping drunken fools out of the building.
Point one makes this a more family friendly event.
Seats. Your feet won’t hurt from standing on concrete.
No need for sun tan lotion, umbrellas etc…
If it rains, no problem just close the roof.
Big screens.
Still accommodates a large crowd.
Cons

Forced consumption of $8 beers and second rate fast food.
60,000 people + 20,000 from the home games + usually bar crowd = 100,000 + people spilling onto the streets all at once and they will all eventually converge onto Granville Street.
You’re inside. There is just something great about a public outdoor viewing party that can’t be matched inside a cavernous stadium.
The element of a riot is still there as people spill onto the streets afterwards.
The city also is looking into creating a number of small neighbourhood-based celebration sites. This could work if you shut down certain streets, say Main Street, Commercial, 4th Avenue. However, people need to get to the games so most likely screens will be set up in public parks and not on the streets.

Not sure how this will fly over with residents and party goers alike. The fact of the matter is people want to soak up the atmosphere and nothing beats downtown Vancouver during the playoffs. Surrey tried with their Central City viewing parties last year and if we all remember the screen shots from the CBC it looked pretty dead. That may change this year, who knows.

If the Canucks don’t start playing better all of this won’t even matter.
.

[TheKingdom2000]

^That sounds intense.

I quite enjoyed the olympics at edge water. And I assume playoffs at bc place to be just as awesome.

I doubt riots will be an issue this year just because of what happened last year.

[Tapioca]

The NHL needs to wake the fuck up and protect their superstars.

What the hell happened to clean but physical hockey? The blatant elbows to the head with 3 game suspensions are ridiculous. Wish the NFL was running this league.

A little bit of revisionist history. Hockey has always had an element of dirtiness to it (examples of modern day players who were dirty:Claude Lemieux, Ulf Samuelsson, Darius Kaspiritus, etc.) The NHL should take out the instigator rule and allow the players to police themselves. Also, the salary cap has severely restricted teams from spending their precious money on enforcer types to protect superstars.

But, you could also argue, as Don Cherry has for years, that players no longer feel they are accountable for their hits and play due to changes in equipment (visors, bigger equipment which hurts players, etc.)
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[pure.life]

This commercial sucks.. the only good thing is that the Canucks are on it

Vancouver Canucks NHL Because It's The Cup ad - YouTube

[SumAznGuy]

A little bit of revisionist history. Hockey has always had an element of dirtiness to it (examples of modern day players who were dirty:Claude Lemieux, Ulf Samuelsson, Darius Kaspiritus, etc.) The NHL should take out the instigator rule and allow the players to police themselves. Also, the salary cap has severely restricted teams from spending their precious money on enforcer types to protect superstars.

But, you could also argue, as Don Cherry has for years, that players no longer feel they are accountable for their hits and play due to changes in equipment (visors, bigger equipment which hurts players, etc.)


While hockey has had dirtiness to it, plays like Dale Hunter on Turgeon or Ulf Samuelson and his knee hits have negatively affected the game. Even to a lesser extent, Moore's hit on Naslund.

If Hockey wants to make itself look better in the eyes of the non-Canadian market and expand in the US, this may be an area they will have to look at.

NFL has taken a hard stand on head shots and intentionally injuring stars of the game. Look at what happened yesterday.

The TSN panel mentioned yesterday that Rene Bourque got 5 games for his elbow to Backstrom but Backstrom has missed 41 games and counting. Look at Crosby. All it could take is one more headshot and his career could be done.

The instigator rule sucks, but playing 11 forwards and playing a guy 4 minutes a game to fight doesn't make sense either.

[Hondaracer]

While I said they looked like bitches for some of the game last night, upon further evaluation if the "team toughness" can reach heights higher than what we saw last night during the playoffs it could work out well, last night was a start
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[7seven]

While hockey has had dirtiness to it, plays like Dale Hunter on Pat Lafontaine

You mean Hunter on Turgeon right


Dale Hunter cheapshots Pierre Turgeon - YouTube

still to this date one of the most disgusting cheap shots ever.

[SumAznGuy]

You mean Hunter on Turgeon right


Yes, you are correct.

[highfive]

I sometimes wonder how much of dirtiness in hockey is the player's responsibility or the coach's responsibility?

Like look at the Devil / Rangers game, Torterella was pumped by the lineup of NJ and he sent out his soldiers to do a staged fight.

Look at Ben Eager last year, Todd Mclellan sent out Eager, Eager snaps and hit Daniel, causing the Sharks to lose that game.

IMO, I think coach's should be partially responsible for it, make sure you have a leash on your crazyass players.

[kayceeee]

Keith's hearing scheduled tmr at 2 via conference call. So 5 games or less

“@DarrenDreger: Keith hearing on Friday is via conference call. 2pm. 5 games or less.”
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[cliffhanger33]

Daniel returning to Vancouver

Done for the road trip
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[TheKingdom2000]

I sometimes wonder how much of dirtiness in hockey is the player's responsibility or the coach's responsibility?

Like look at the Devil / Rangers game, Torterella was pumped by the lineup of NJ and he sent out his soldiers to do a staged fight.

Look at Ben Eager last year, Todd Mclellan sent out Eager, Eager snaps and hit Daniel, causing the Sharks to lose that game.

IMO, I think coach's should be partially responsible for it, make sure you have a leash on your crazyass players.

Well considering the NFL bounty program :rukidding:

At least with the NHL it seems that it's just the players. Well, at least I would like to think coaches/managers don't tell their team to go after people...

[hotshot1]

I think the NHL needs more strict penalties like the NFL. What do you guys think about this:

If you injure someone with an act that is considered "dirty", you have to sit out the same number of games as the person you hurt had to sit out due to injury, with a maximum of... lets say 40 games, subject to a hearing (to determine how much longer if something like the Bert-Moore incident happens again, or anything else).

The down side is that if a star player hurts a role player, maybe teams would sit out the role player due to "injury" causing the star player to miss a lot of games. To solve this problem, maybe the NHL should have their own doctors monitor the injured players every few games? And if teams are found guilty of fraud, then have them lose draft picks?

[cliffhanger33]

You think daniel is gna get a suspension for his head shot on Keith?

The league f*king hates us, i think they're gna pull shit like that on us

[Hondaracer]

That whole thing sit out as long as the player is out is stupid/would never work.
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[Gumby]

Should the length of a suspension (if any) depend on the severity of injury (if any)?

Or should it be based solely on the act itself?

[cliffhanger33]

Severity of injury is taken into account but since it is only a telephone hearing, it's only going to be 5 games or less

[highfive]

It's just that the game is so much faster, it's a fine line between dirty and clean.

Look at Rome on Horton hit. I felt it was a clean hit. Elbows were tucked in Horton dropped his head last minute. But compare it to Torres on Seabrook, similar but no suspension.

But I believe if they make a more strict rule where if any part of your elbow hits the head is an automatic suspension of 10 games. That would make players rethink a little and maybe they would hesitate if the opposing player is at a disadvantage.

[JD¹³]

But I believe if they make a more strict rule where if any part of your elbow hits the head is an automatic suspension of 10 games. That would make players rethink a little and maybe they would hesitate if the opposing player is at a disadvantage.
Ridiculous proposal. Guys like Chara would be suspended all the time. At 6'3" my shoulder / upper arm / elbow area would hit a shorter guy in the head at least once a game. That rule idea would turn every player 6'1" and taller into a neutered pylon.

Just for the record Torres on Seabrook was a 100% clean hit, Rome on Horton was 95% clean. Anyone saying it's late, maybe by a millisecond, a 2 minute interference call should have been it. But if Horton hadn't been injured there wouldn't have even been a penalty. Seabrook and Horton both sucked at a fundamental aspect of playing hockey: keep your fucking head up.

[cliffhanger33]

Pitts up 2-0 against Nashville already :heckno:

[Tim Budong]

I think malkin can hit 50g easy this season

[kristianhay]

Radulov was invisible out there.

[Hondaracer]

There is also a difference between "hockey plays" that result in injury and cheap shots
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[Gh0stRider]

pens up 3-0 already

[rsx]

Radulov was invisible out there.

on tv??

[cliffhanger33]

Malkin..... :fuckthatshit::fuckthatshit:

[cliffhanger33]

4-0 pitts now :pokerface:

[fliptuner]

You think daniel is gna get a suspension for his head shot on Keith?

The league f*king hates us, i think they're gna pull shit like that on us

Nah. Shoulder hit and the initial point of contact was chest, then rose up.

[d1]

fucking rinne getting lit up during fantasy playoffs

[AzNightmare]

This commercial sucks.. the only good thing is that the Canucks are on it

Vancouver Canucks NHL Because It's The Cup ad - YouTube (http://youtu.be/aJ7jUz1fm64)

Wow. this commercial does suck.
Even the narrator was a bad choice. Sounds like some ameteur recording on his desktop mic.

[LsquareD]

Radulov with a goal
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[AzNightmare]

Suspending a player for the duration of how long the victim sits out won't make any sense.
Some players are just more fragile, so it would be silly to say if player X did the exact same (dirty) hit on one player and his season ended,
while the other player brushed it off after a game or two.

[604778]

Wow. Fat chick with a sedin sisters shirt.
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[EFifty3]

anybody got links to tonight's game

[604778]

Raymond!!!
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[satek]

raymondddd!

[MG1]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/raymond-mason_584.jpg


just tuned in.......

[Vale46Rossi]

Wtf Raymond scored lol!

[kristianhay]

Wow, what a pass.

[cliffhanger33]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO FINALLY RAYMOND. He worked hard last game. deserved this trolololololl

[MR_BIGGS]

Kassien had the front of the net sealer for raymond there. What a non-play.

[spoon.ek9]

i missed the goal but i'm happy for MayRay!

[cliffhanger33]

Henrik got the assist, first point he got against the Stars

[Vale46Rossi]

WEISEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[cliffhanger33]

WEISEEEEEEEEEE

WHAT A TOUGH KID


he got the worst of it, but dam he can take punches

[spideyv2]

Fuck I forgot there was a game on today
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[MG1]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/images-3.jpg

Wiesel Tank

[cliffhanger33]

SCHNOOOOOO

[MG1]

Ott is such a cunt!

[cliffhanger33]

4 on 4

[cliffhanger33]

lol dallas trying to turn this into some turf war

[MG1]

The building is pretty lame compared to last night's game.



For some strange reason, I keep thinking the chick who flashed us was a Dalla Stars fan, but I was mistaken. It was Florida.......


LiveLeak.com - Female Hockey fan flashes on the big cam during game

[cliffhanger33]

LOL reffs didnt call an obvious icing XD

[spoon.ek9]

that should have been icing... what game are the refs watching? lol.

[cliffhanger33]

dammm so close


dallas being cunts

[VooDood]

man.......... raymond doesnt look so useless if hes passing the puck around........

[cliffhanger33]

LOL weise dirty hit on Ott

[MG1]

Sheldon Souray has a hate on for Monster.......


SSSSssss is so alert. Knocked that cross ice pass away just in time.


In Schneider we trust.

[cliffhanger33]

scchhhhhhhhhh

[MG1]

SsSsSsSsSsSsSssSsSsSsSsSsSsS

[cliffhanger33]

PP

[cliffhanger33]

PENALTY SHOT on cory


COMMON schhhh

[Vale46Rossi]

HOOOOLY SHITTTTTT

[604778]

Ssssssshhhhhnnoooooooo!
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[cliffhanger33]

SCHHHHHHHHHHHH

[rsx]

like a boss..

[spoon.ek9]

SCCCCHHHHNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cliffhanger33]

penalty on ribeiro again

[cliffhanger33]

5 on 3 LOL

[Vale46Rossi]

Should have been a PS

[spoon.ek9]

yeaaahhhhh 5 on 3!

[cliffhanger33]

fuu penalty on burrows

[HonestTea]

Empty net! Lol
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[spoon.ek9]

ott should be in the box too :troll:

[Vale46Rossi]

Kesler's empty net shot pissed OTT off so bad lol.

[spoon.ek9]

Kesler's empty net shot pissed OTT off so bad lol.

that was burrows, no?

[Vale46Rossi]

I thought it could be Kesler, I could be wrong.

[TRDood]

that was burrows, no?

Burrow +1
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[jdmhaze]

^It was definately Burrows. Which is why you saw Ott barrel for him right after it happened.

[cliffhanger33]

Ott being Ott LOL

[spideyv2]

Ott woulda been a good aquisition
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[spoon.ek9]

anyways, iono how many of you are watching the Dallas broadcast, but they agree that the hit by Keith was intentional.

key points:

- intentional elbow to the face, he knew exactly what he was doing
- these are two star players, where's the mutual respect?
- seeing as we're now into 70+ games into the season, there's no confusion as to what occurred and how it should be handled

if Keith doesn't get the maximum 5 games.... iono what to believe anymore.

[MG1]

Wow, Bieska!

[spoon.ek9]

Juice!

[604778]

Wooo!!
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[Vale46Rossi]

Thank You.

Raymond and Bieksa was doing so bad. Finally both made me smile today.

[figure.09]

juice!!

[604778]

Hansen??
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[spoon.ek9]

yaaaa hansen! :D

[DanHibiki]

man we coulda used all this scrapping yesterday

[DanHibiki]

oh god that fan with the very obvious, very ugly fake jersey

[saiko]

I think I just heard.. Mason Raymond just popped his 9th goal of the year?! Aiyaa, he is tearing it up in my NHL11 season!

[lungfish23]

Wow.
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[604778]

Fuuu.
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[DanHibiki]

SWEET ONE THERE SCHNEIDER

[spoon.ek9]

damn, that wasn't a good play schnoo lol.

[spideyv2]

I think I just heard.. Mason Raymond just popped his 9th goal of the year?! Aiyaa, he is tearing it up in my NHL11 season!

Lol mayray is a perrenial 30 goal scorer in nhl 11
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[MG1]

SSSSsssssshit!



LOL, at juice getting a quick shot in there - skates into the scrum and pops the guy while nobody's watching.

[604778]

Omg!!!!
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[lungfish23]

Of all the times to hit the post. Lol. That would've been awesome after what Schneider did.
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[MG1]

Good thing the Stars are a fairly weak team. 'Nucks wouldn't be this scrappy if playing the Bruins or Blackhawks.

[BlackV62K2]

Dallas ice girls :sweetjesus:

[Not really racist!]

Lool schnoo
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[BlackV62K2]

Gragnani is fucking useless

[RiceIntegraRS]

^Im not impressed by him at all. Hes got some offensive upside but the more i think about it, he looks like a forward playing defense if anything

[MG1]

Biekshit, you fokker..........

[lungfish23]

Fuuuuuu
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[MG1]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/89blkcivic/Canucks/we_win_cheers1.jpg

SsSsSsSsSsSsSssSsSsSsSsSsSsS

[SkinnyPupp]

I thought they weren't blocking shots anymore? :suspicious:

[604778]

Win!
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[spoon.ek9]

victory! :toot:

[MG1]

Shake, shake, shake, duh da duh duh da duh.....shake, shake, shake, duh da duh duh da duh....... shake your booty, shake your booty...........Dallas ice girls, ftw!

[Bonka]

Ahh missed this game..

Raymond driving to the net now? :suspicious:

[MG1]

Does Schneider get credit for his own goal?

The only mistake he made this game.

[MG1]

Damn.......... must have missed the penalty shot, LOL Just saw the replay. Nice!

[spoon.ek9]

kids being kids lol..

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374035_10150711855077145_63958787144_9576840_16081 83561_n.jpg

[Obsideon]

Lol mayray is a perrenial 30 goal scorer in nhl 11
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LOL totally agree! That's mainly because he's got crazy speed in the game so he can get to all the right spots for one-timers and can get set loose on breakaways quite often. Too bad he still gets knocked down with the slightest bump lol ...

[cliffhanger33]

Great game!
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[pastarocket]

A hard fought victory tonight. -glad to see the team play with emotion and stand up for each other. Facing agitators like Steve Ott and Adam Burrish makes those scrums after the whistle that much more animated.

[kayceeee]

“@RealKyper: Hearing tonite #NHL has in fact decided to ask #Blackhawks D. Keith to waive his right to in person hearing for elbow on #Canucks D. Sedin”

“@RealKyper: Meaning Keith could receive 5 or more games. Also told his #NHL hearing could be pushed back much later then the one scheduled for Fri 2pm.”

[MG1]

I hope they make an example out of Duncan Keith. 10 games or more.

This was no accidental contact. It was premeditated. Bastard went out of his way to take Sedin out.

If it's in retaliation, even more so........... I still don't get the 40 second shift Daniel took after the hit. Delayed concussion effects? Is there such a thing?

Perhaps MG was like wtf? Take him off the ice, NAO..........so Keith can get more than the two minutes or a game suspension.

[spoon.ek9]

I hope they make an example out of Duncan Keith. 10 games or more.

This was no accidental contact. It was premeditated. Bastard went out of his way to take Sedin out.

If it's in retaliation, even more so........... I still don't get the 40 second shift Daniel took after the hit. Delayed concussion effects? Is there such a thing?

Perhaps MG was like wtf? Take him off the ice, NAO..........so Keith can get more than the two minutes or a game suspension.

I seriously hope it's not a concussion. Replay looked like he was hit right in the jaw and you could see him on the bench moving his jaw around. It's my understanding that if players fail the quiet room testing, they are not allowed back on the ice. Also, since this was a relatively meaningless game, there would be no reason to risk further injury to Daniel by needlessly putting him on the powerplay.

[clowe]

Suspending Keith for the regular season is kinda meaningless. The Hawks aren't really at risk of missing the playoffs. He should get a few playoff games like Torres last year but I don't know how Shanny can structure a suspension like that unless he gives him >7 games.

[cliffhanger33]

Elliotte Friedman‏@Friedgehnic
Would bet heavily Canucks are arguing behind scenes that Keith suspension should compare to Rome's. A lot of lobbying from both teams.

[cliffhanger33]

“@RealKyper: Hearing tonite #NHL has in fact decided to ask #Blackhawks D. Keith to waive his right to in person hearing for elbow on #Canucks D. Sedin”

“@RealKyper: Meaning Keith could receive 5 or more games. Also told his #NHL hearing could be pushed back much later then the one scheduled for Fri 2pm.”

Just heard a while ago though team1040 that the hearing will still be through the phone, but with in-person consequences.

Shanahan doesn't have to give out a 5+ suspension, but it just opens up the option to.

[SkinnyPupp]

Elliotte Friedman‏@Friedgehnic
Would bet heavily Canucks are arguing behind scenes that Keith suspension should compare to Rome's. A lot of lobbying from both teams.
That would probably explain Rome's description of the hit, which was very apologetic in Keith's favour.

I always thought Keith was a super clean player, and has been my favourite Dman for a long time. But this was clearly a dirty hit.. we all thought the same thing about Shane Doan when he first got suspended, now he got suspended again and fined for boarding...

[cliffhanger33]

That would probably explain Rome's description of the hit, which was very apologetic in Keith's favour.

I always thought Keith was a super clean player, and has been my favourite Dman for a long time. But this was clearly a dirty hit.. we all thought the same thing about Shane Doan when he first got suspended, now he got suspended again and fined for boarding...

Always thought Keith was clean too, but there were many cases that demonstrated how dirty Keith can be. Clearly, elbowing to the head isn't the first for him.

Duncan Keith's Head Shot On Matt Cooke (12-5-2009) - YouTube

Ruslan Salei gets elbowed by Duncan Keith - YouTube

[GrapeDrink]

Suspending Keith for the regular season is kinda meaningless. The Hawks aren't really at risk of missing the playoffs. He should get a few playoff games like Torres last year but I don't know how Shanny can structure a suspension like that unless he gives him >7 games.

not really, the hawks are in a 3 way battle right now with det and nash for the 4th spot to grab home ice, so there is still a lot at stake imo.

[SkinnyPupp]

Always thought Keith was clean too, but there were many cases that demonstrated how dirty Keith can be. Clearly, elbowing to the head isn't the first for him.

Duncan Keith's Head Shot On Matt Cooke (12-5-2009) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XiTS8NjNao&feature=player_embedded)

Ruslan Salei gets elbowed by Duncan Keith - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-SMjhK0YMU&feature=player_embedded)
:heckno:

[clowe]

not really, the hawks are in a 3 way battle right now with det and nash for the 4th spot to grab home ice, so there is still a lot at stake imo.

Fair enough. Though, if they sit in that 6th seed, they'll draw LA/SJ/PHX or DAL, that might be more favorable match-up for them than Detroit or Nashville but that's irrelevant.

[b0unce. [?]]

I took a nap and slept straight through the game :(

watched the highlights. MAKAVELI719696's video's are pretty good. the fiddler bit after bieksa scored was hilarious :lol
schneider played well. fucking alberts with probably zero communication with the goalies =/
burrows with the clutch block!

[spoon.ek9]

^ at least post the video if you're gonna mention it :p

Canucks vs. Stars 3/22/2012 - YouTube

[b0unce. [?]]

^ at least post the video if you're gonna mention it :p

Canucks vs. Stars 3/22/2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBL98vu0uVs&list=PLC950854A2149F184&index=1&feature=plcp)

haha i just assumed someone posted it shortly after the game ended haha

[clowe]

Here was another questionable hit by Keith:

Duncan Keith drills Jamie Benn - YouTube

Good for Ott for going right after Keith, too bad we couldn't get him at the deadline.

[highfive]

The reason why Kassian will do better than Cody under AV.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1bl03wxqx1rncse2o1_400.gif

[BlackZRoadster]

^ cant really see whats going on?

just see AV kinda restraining Kass

[jackmeister]

^ cant really see whats going on?

just see AV kinda restraining Kass

Kassian was grabbing a stars player, but let go once AV held him back

[sonick]

I thought you meant how AV's hugging Kassian like "I love you"

[Not really racist!]

Kassian grabbed the guys jersey apparently

[mb_]

Keith hearing 2PM EST, should know soon what's up

[pure.life]

can't wait to see what Shanaban does with this one

[fliptuner]

Apparently, it's been changed to a face to face meeting

Also, AV calls out ref:

Blackhawks' Duncan Keith gets NHL face-time suspension hearing over elbow to Canucks' Daniel Sedin (http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Blackhawks+Duncan+Keith+plus+equals+confusion+over +elbow+Canucks+Daniel+Sedin/6343254/story.html)

The league requested an in-person hearing with the star blueliner to deal with potential supplementary discipline following his elbow to the head on Vancouver Canucks forward Daniel Sedin on Wednesday night. Keith waived his right to the in-person meeting with NHL vice-president of player safety Brendan Shanahan and instead will meet with him over the phone on Friday afternoon. However by requesting the face-to-face meeting the league now has the option of suspending Keith for more than five games.

"We got a big two-minute power play off that hit from the same referee -- remember last year when Daniel got punched six times in the face in the Boston series?" Vigneault said. "I seem to remember it was the same guy."


Okay, maybe he didn't really call him out, per se, but he can only say so much without getting fined like MG last year.

[trip]

sloth (movie goonies) - milan lucic

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/03/23/lucic_640_640.jpg

[kristianhay]

Ian Pragovich
@ESPNChiHawks just saw Duncan Keith walking out of UC looked really pissed so foreshadowing bad talk with shanny

No solid news just yet.

From reports I've read, things aren't looking good.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=sportsxchange-000616912_report-daniel-sedin-out-at-least-2-weeks-with-concussion

The elbow that Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Duncan Keith delivered to the head of left wing Daniel Sedin of the Vancouver Canucks on Wednesday may have bad results for both.

Sedin was being flown back to Vancouver for additional tests on Thursday, TSN's Bob McKenzie reported, and Renaud P. Lavoie of RDS in Canada reported later Thursday that Sedin has been diagnosed with a concussion and will be sidelined for at least two weeks.

That also may mean a suspension or some other sanctions for Keith, who received a two-minute minor for the hit at the time.

"I haven't seen the replay so it's tough for me to comment too much," Keith told CSN Chicago after the game."But I'm not trying to hurt anybody. I hope he's OK. He's one of their best players, he needs to be on the ice. But the puck was up in the air, and from what I remember, I'm trying to close my gap and have a good gap on him, Right at the last second he moves forward and I don't know where the puck is. It's fast and, like I said, I hope he's OK. I haven't seen the replay. I need to see it again."

Daniel's twin brother and teammate, Henrik, told NHL.com, "I got a lot of respect for a lot of guys on their team. There've been things said from their room before, but not from (Keith). He's always been good, but I don't know if it was too [many] emotions playing against us or what it was. Again, it's too bad. I had a lot of respect for him."

Daniel Sedin has 30 goals and 37 assists in 72 games this season, and Keith has four goals and 36 assists in 72 games.

Don't know how reliable the source is, so we'll see.

[fliptuner]

Since Shanny now wants F2F meeting, doesn't that mean it'll be late tonight or tomorrow?

[kristianhay]

^

There is no face to face meeting. Keith waived his right to a face-to-face meeting. The meeting took place over the phone, but because of this he is able to receive 6+ games as if it were a face to face.

[fliptuner]

My bad. I read the article wrong.

I thought after Keith waived his right to F2F, NHL still wanted F2F cause they were going to lay the hammer down.

[spideyv2]

I saw this retweeted by @ESPNChiHawks

@JamiesonCanucks
#Canucks Henrik also said this is first concussion for Daniel

[Vale46Rossi]

Everyone really wants to know the result of the hit and see how many games he gets ><"

[TheStig]

5 games

[TheStig]

Duncan Keith suspended 5 games Video - NHL VideoCenter (http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=-7&id=167025)

[spideyv2]

gay

[pure.life]

not good enough

[MG1]

So, are we going to see another Bertuzzi incident where some Canuck is going to chop down Duncan Keith? Too bad the bastard can't be banned from playing the next 5 games with the Canucks.

[fliptuner]

5 games, yeah ok, I can accept that (kinda) but it was ruled as elbowing (rule 45).

Shouldn't it be ruled under rule 48 (illegal check to the head)? I mean most headshots come from elbows, so rule 48 should superceed rule 45. I'm sure if some plug did the same thing it'd be called a headshot for sure.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=123676

[clowe]

The guy that averages the most ice-time per game in the NHL gets a 5 game rest before the playoffs.

[Tim Budong]

whatever the case may be
i didnt expect more than 5

Rene Bourque got 5 for his hit on backstrom and took him out for awhile now..

so its similar.. i guesss...

[rsx]

I'd like to have seen 7, less than 10 (due to his clean record), but enough to send a message.

[fsy82]

i wouldnt mind a chicago and vancouver series again this year...rivalry is the best in the nhl

[cliffhanger33]

lol just elbowing?

[Gh0stRider]

he's gonna be well rested for the playoffs

[cliffhanger33]

Under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and based on his average annual salary, Keith will forfeit $149,688.15. The money goes to the Players’ Emergency Assistance Fund.

NHL.com

[Tim Budong]

No one is going to be happy with this because its the hawks
anyways

Bourque hit on Backstrom for reference, not as "vicious" looking, but still got him 5. with a previous record of a check from behind on.. brent seabrook

Rene Bourque Elbows Nicklas Backstrom (Multiview) - Jan 3, 2012 (HD) - YouTube
Rene Bourque suspended 5 games 1/4/12 - YouTube

and as i said earlier, Backstrom just started skating again..

But heres the thing, did Keith get a "superstar" treatment? possibly. Was there intent? possibly.

Shane Doan's elbow was pretty nasty and that looked like there was INTENT all over it. Just because Jamie Benn was okay, he got 3. What if Benn didnt finish the game?

[fliptuner]

Like I said, I can live with the 5 games (the homer in me wants more though).

But how is it elbowing and not an illegal check to the head?

[hsh4]

5 still not nuff imo

[kristianhay]

The more important factor here is Daniel's status for the playoffs, without him.. :heckno:

[AzNightmare]

Silly thing is, unlike these other hits where it's either late or a check after a player makes a pass.

Daniel never even had possession or control of the puck on that play, EVER.

And I didn't like how Shanahan said the play was to impede Sedin's progress.
Yes, it was, but he brushed off the fact it WAS from retaliation from an earlier hit in the game.

Maybe Shanahan didn't like Daniel's hit either and decided not bring it in account for Keith's suspension?
I'm sure Shanahan was well aware why Keith was motivated to do something so dirty like that.

[Not really racist!]

mehhh 5 games

[Hondaracer]

even if it was the remainder of the season it makes no difference

[spoon.ek9]

not enough imo. all this delaying on judgment was just for show then because he would have only had 5 games max to begin with.

[Tim Budong]

even if it was the remainder of the season it makes no difference

truth

Its not like the Hawks will miss the playoffs, it just hurts their chances to move up in the standings

Its pretty damn tight. I love the dog fight. especially when all the pacific division teams play each other constantly to end the year. like kings/sharks have a b2b for their last games of the year


Kings - 86
Wings - 93
Preds - 92
Hawks - 92
Coyotes - 86
Stars - 85
-------------
Avs - 85
Sharks - 84
Flames - 83

[Verdasco]

make it 5 games in the playoffs and i would be happy shannahan...

[Tim Budong]

not enough imo. all this delaying on judgment was just for show then because he would have only had 5 games max to begin with.

But what is enough, and where is the line to draw for such actions? 5-7 is where this is to be expected. Asking for an in person hearing allows the league to suspend him more than 5

As some have said, how was this judged, was it clearly just an elbow or is it rule 48 headshot? was this intentional or not? Was the earlier hit from Danny brought in as a factor to this decision?

This suspension does leave some questions that need to be answered. Sadly, this will never be answered. Neither are any number of games from the suspension be justified as "correct"

[6thGear.]

What a joke. Should've included first round of the playoffs. Then again no suspension will ever match Bertuzzi's or Romes ...oh hey...both involved the Canucks...what a coincidence the league loves to make a stand and an example out of the Canucks and no one else...Best league in the world and it's being disciplined like the legal system we have here.

[Tim Budong]

What a joke. Should've included first round of the playoffs. Then again no suspension will ever match Bertuzzi's or Romes ...oh hey...both involved the Canucks...what a coincidence the league loves to make a stand and an example out of the Canucks and no one else...Best league in the world and it's being disciplined like the legal system we have here.

Bertuzzi's incident cant be included here. The dragged Moore from the back of the sweater and sucker punched him... Thats "assault"

Rome's suspension.. If it happened in the regular season, he still woulda gotten 3-5

As i said earlier, using Rene Bourque's hit on Backstrom is probably a good comparison. That was Bourque's 2nd suspension as well. 5 games for a first time offender imo is a pretty high bar. Especially for a Norris winner.

[Not really racist!]

NHL suspends Hawks' Keith for 5 games - NHL.com - News (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=623759)

shan thought it was just elbowing

[DanHibiki]

I hope Flames magically make it to 7th place and we get to rekindle our great rivalry. :tears:

[Hondaracer]

missing the first round of the playoffs would have been equal to like 25 games if it went 7

i know everyone is emotional in losing Daniel, but thats just rediuclous

[spoon.ek9]

But what is enough, and where is the line to draw for such actions? 5-7 is where this is to be expected. Asking for an in person hearing allows the league to suspend him more than 5

As some have said, how was this judged, was it clearly just an elbow or is it rule 48 headshot? was this intentional or not? Was the earlier hit from Danny brought in as a factor to this decision?

This suspension does leave some questions that need to be answered. Sadly, this will never be answered. Neither are any number of games from the suspension be justified as "correct"

my issue is that it's meaningless to suspend him in the regular season when it's clear that daniel is going to miss some playoff games (or worse).

when you look at torres' suspension for hitting taylor hall, it was 4 games that carried into the playoffs. i was hoping for something similar here. shanahan needed to set a precedent and this was a perfect opportunity to do it with such a blatant hit to the head with the intent to injure. for example, if it were 3 games at the end of the season and 2 playoff games, i would have been okay with 5 games. again, not something that has been done before, but it would have sent an important message to all players that shit like this is no longer tolerated.

whatever though, it's done. fuck you duncan keith.

[Hondaracer]

payback bertuzzi style in confrence finals?

:D

[Gh0stRider]

eric cole natural hattrick in 5:41

[Gh0stRider]

@tsn_news: Canucks confirm that Daniel Sedin has a concussion Canucks confirm that Daniel Sedin has a concussion (http://bit.ly/GUtGWj)

[cliffhanger33]

Dam....


Well it was expected..... although we hoped it wouldn't be that.

[subordinate]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I hope Danny doesn't feel rushed for the playoffs.......It's pointless for him to rush things and play a couple of games, then relapse like Sid.

[MG1]

The Canucks will just have to rally around him and make some adjustments. A good team should be able to do this. Players stepping it up, so to speak.

[cliffhanger33]

The Canucks will just have to rally around him and make some adjustments. A good team should be able to do this. Players stepping it up, so to speak.

Yeah. Lots of players stepped up against Dallas yesterday.

Just won't be the same

[Sentinel]

Last time Daniel got hurt and was out for a number of games(2yrs ago via broken foot), Henrik stepped up and became the Art Ross and Hart winner. Maybe Hank will do the same again, start producing offensively.

[cliffhanger33]

Just hope Daniel will be fine for the play offs

[SkinnyPupp]

Your time to shine, Mayray :heckno:

[mako]

he's shined pretty good the last two games

[Not really racist!]

please dont rush daniel... please

[Sentinel]

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

[CRS]

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

The pay that Keith would be getting for his missed games will be going to the NHLPA's emergency relief fund already.

[UFO]

I don't think stiffer fines/suspensions will accomplish anything. You can suspend a guy 10 games for the same play, but if that suspension only goes through 1 out of 3 times guys are going to keep pushing their luck

Keith threw the elbow because he had gotten away in the past with similar plays and no discipline.

Consistent on ice ref'ing and off ice discipline is what will speak the loudest in the long term.

[clowe]

I think teams should not be allowed to fill the position of the suspended player until he comes back. Since Keith is a defenseman, the Hawks should only be allowed to dress 5 D-men for the next 5 games and Keith's 28 mins/game would need to be distributed among the other 5 defenseman, so the other 5 guys would need to play on average, ~5:30 more per game.

This way, they might think twice before doing something stupid because it puts his team at a disadvantage and puts a lot of added pressure onto his teammates, because right now, the Hawks can just plug in Sean O'Donnell and he can eat up 15-18 minutes of Keith's ice time (albeit not as effectively of course) and the other 5 guys would only need to play an average of an additional 2 minutes/game

[GrapeDrink]

I think teams should not be allowed to fill the position of the suspended player until he comes back. Since Keith is a defenseman, the Hawks should only be allowed to dress 5 D-men for the next 5 games and Keith's 28 mins/game would need to be distributed among the other 5 defenseman, so the other 5 guys would need to play on average, ~5:30 more per game.

This way, they might think twice before doing something stupid because it puts his team at a disadvantage and puts a lot of added pressure onto his teammates, because right now, the Hawks can just plug in Sean O'Donnell and he can eat up 15-18 minutes of Keith's ice time (albeit not as effectively of course) and the other 5 guys would only need to play an average of an additional 2 minutes/game

lol even if they did that, teams could find ways around that so easily, player positions are not set in stone. Assuming you meant dress 5 D, they would then be allowed to dress 13 F right, they could just dress a Defensemen under F, sharks do the opposite of that sometimes, they dress Vandermeer a Defensemen as their 12th F.

[clowe]

lol even if they did that, teams could find ways around that so easily, player positions are not set in stone. Assuming you meant dress 5 D, they would then be allowed to dress 13 F right, they could just dress a Defensemen under F, sharks do the opposite of that sometimes, they dress Vandermeer a Defensemen as their 12th F.

I meant, they would only be allowed to dress 12 forwards and 5 defensemen, but you're right, they could still easily circumvent it and not play their 3 minute 4th line goon and dress an extra D.

[Ludepower]

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

Add another fine of 2+ million dollar fine on the team. That'll make them feel the pinch. So that all levels of management feel the burden.

But goodluck getting everyone to agree on this issue.

[pastarocket]

Another Northwest Division title is on the line tonight. Bury the Avalanche!
Go Canucks go!!!

[Okami]

Another Northwest Division title is on the line tonight. Bury the Avalanche!
Go Canucks go!!!

:fuckthatshit:

[clowe]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1310/divisionp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/divisionp.jpg/)

X - Clinched Playoff spot
Y - Clinched Division
Z - Clinched Conference

:fuckthatshit: :awwyeah:

[jeedee]

With Calgary losing, Canucks officially clinched the NW division :fuckyea:

[Mr.HappySilp]

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

and to decerease the salary cap by 5x as well. Say in your example since the fine is 1m in total. The salary cap is decerease by 5m for next season. That will get management attention since they can no longer aquire the players they want becasue of the decerease in salary cap they got.

[spideyv2]

Still can't believe the Blues are still on pace to win the Presidents Trophy

Ken Hitchcock :fulloffuck:

[Not really racist!]

and to decerease the salary cap by 5x as well. Say in your example since the fine is 1m in total. The salary cap is decerease by 5m for next season. That will get management attention since they can no longer aquire the players they want becasue of the decerease in salary cap they got.

:ahwow: :suspicious:

sarcasm aside.. its hard to have GMs approve such things lmao