[Ch28]

darenmillard daren millard
NtC causing headaches for teams. Word is Brian Campbell refused a deal to CBJ, and Regehr said no, for now, to a trade to Buffalo.

[murd0c]

Wicked Brian Campbell off to the Panthers

[krazynuck]

bye bye Campbell :fuckyea:

[MR_BIGGS]

Brian Campbell going to Panthers?

And Canucks interested in a guy that is similar to Rome?? :S

[SkinnyPupp]

I just woke up, any new jerseys introduced? Stupid Jets announced their name but not a jersey, that's pretty lame

[Tim Budong]

Unloading stupid contracts is not impossible for teams looking to hit cap floor

thats all I can say.

Patrick Sharp is one happy camper who is a UFA next season... he's gonna get a nice raise

[SkinnyPupp]

lol they are booing the Canucks.. most hated team in NHL!

[MR_BIGGS]

Harsh booing us

[haha13]

LOL "we would like to thank the Minnesota for their hospitality"

[trip]

^ crowd cheers

fucking trolls lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Another Dane! lol

[Ch28]

I love how Gilman :troll: the Minny crowd right there :lol

[Tim Budong]

yay!

[spideyv2]

Hopefully Jensen can pan out to be a strong power forward for us. 6'3 186 lbs for an 18 year old isn't bad

[SkinnyPupp]

Hopefully Jensen can pan out to be a strong power forward for us. 6'3 186 lbs for an 18 year old isn't bad
Toronto's pick is 6'2" 230 lbs :eek:

[murd0c]

Toronto's pick is 6'2" 230 lbs :eek:

and only 18 :speechless:

[SkinnyPupp]

exactly!

[Ronin]

Minny still remember Ohlund two-handing Koivu.

[d1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFtsAvhPkc&feature=player_embedded

[spideyv2]

When was Jensen predicted to be picked? And what kinda player is he projected to be?

[jeedee]

When was Jensen predicted to be picked? And what kinda player is he projected to be?

Central Scouting had him being picked at 21st overall.

Protected to be: [read bold]

Nicklas D. Jensen may just put Danish hockey on the map, as the 17-year-old is widely regarded as the best prospect to ever come out of Denmark, and for good reason. This past season, while playing in the top Danish hockey league (Oddset Ligaen) with Herning, he put up 12 goals and 26 points in 34 games against the much older competition and won Rookie of the Year honors. He also added another 10 points (6G,4A) in 10 playoff games as well. Internationally, Jensen racked up an incredible 13 goals and 15 points in 5 games at the 2010 World Under-18’s Division 1 tourney, en route to winning the tournament’s best forward award and guiding Denmark to a silver medal. He also won silver and potted 5 points (3G,2) in 5 games for Denmark at the U20’s Div.1 tourney. In 2008-09, he scored 28 goals and 43 points in 28 games with his U20 club as a 15-year-old. His statistics and accomplishments are mind boggling, considering he just turned seventeen in March. Jensen possesses very good size at 6-foot-2, 187-pounds, to go with an unbelievable skillset. He has a great shot, is a strong skater, has good vision and hockey sense, and is seen as a very dependable two-way forward. Which is the reason the OHL’s Oshawa Generals nabbed the left winger in the first round (8th overall) of the 2010 CHL Import Draft. Numerous hockey observers have the big Danish forward picked as a top 20 prospect for the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, despite being trained in a country that is known more for their dairy products and fairy tale writer Hans Christian Andersen.

Source:
http://dansallows.com/player-profile-nicklas-jensen/

[mb_]

Regehr + Kotalik to Buffalo

[Ronin]

Regehr refused to waive his NTC for Buffalo.

[mb_]

orly

DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Robyn Regehr has agreed to waive his no-move and will accept trade to Buffalo. Kotalik involved as well.
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Sabres owner Terry Pegula very influential in Regehr's decision to waive and accept move to Buffalo.
25 seconds ago

[DanHibiki]

Minny still remember Ohlund two-handing Koivu.

And 2003

And Bertuzzi

[DanHibiki]

Wtf? Cabbie is on TSN now?

[Simulated]

yes he joined not too long ago. good for him too. score is just getting worse and worse.
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[lol]

Ya score is getting pretty shitty.

This 1st rounder is a good pick up for us. In 2 yrs you could see him gain 20 lbs easily. Judging from his stats and video, looks to be pretty deadly. Too bad he wasn't 2" taller.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Interesting Jensen has a Canadian father. He'd still play for Denmark in national competitions though.

[Tegra_Devil]

good bye regehr you will be missed thanks for everything!.....burn in hell kotalik

[DanHibiki]

Too bad Ryan Smyth didn't go to the Flames. That woulda been the ultimate :troll:

[Bouncing Bettys]

As the Flames are my second fav team (bumped to third now thow that the Jets are back) and as Regehr played for the Blazers, I will not be happy to see him playing for a divisional rival to the Leafs. Good guy, tough as nails.

I haven't heard whats coming back the other way. Are the Flames rebuilding or clearing space to get someone like Richards?

[Tegra_Devil]

rumour on the streets is Richards to finally center iggy.

regehr, i believe, will be a very dominant force in the east. he should fit in well.

[Ronin]

orly

Wow, they were literally talking about Regher and how he said no to waiving his NTC on TV when I posted that.

[Ronin]

Interesting Jensen has a Canadian father. He'd still play for Denmark in national competitions though.

He's a sure thing for the Danish national teams whereas he'd be a fringe player at best on the Canadian team.

LOL I was just about to say that Cory Schneider is going to make fun of his accent but then he talked in his interview and he sounds like any other Canadian kid.

[SkinnyPupp]

Too bad Ryan Smyth didn't go to the Flames. That woulda been the ultimate :troll:
He still might! The Oilers trade isn't complete yet :)

[lol]

He's a sure thing for the Danish national teams whereas he'd be a fringe player at best on the Canadian team.

LOL I was just about to say that Cory Schneider is going to make fun of his accent but then he talked in his interview and he sounds like any other Canadian kid.

lol ya i was hoping for some hansen type voice haha

[falcon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFtsAvhPkc&feature=player_embedded

Reminds me of a young Kesler. Similar stride and wrist shot... kinda weird.

[jeedee]

Reminds me of a young Kesler. Similar stride and wrist shot... kinda weird.

Jansen - Kesler - Jensen anyone? :fullofwin:

[CRS]

Jansen - Kesler - Jensen anyone? :fullofwin:

Maybe in 2-3 years.

[spideyv2]

So how does the jersey situation work with draft picks? What if a team had a few jerseys lettered with the players they hoped to pick, but all the players were selected before their chance to choose?

[jeedee]

So how does the jersey situation work with draft picks? What if a team had a few jerseys lettered with the players they hoped to pick, but all the players were selected before their chance to choose?

They already have a few [around 2-3] jerseys with the name of the player they wanted to draft. I don't know where the jerseys with the names they DIDN'T draft go to. Probably shipped out to a 3rd world country.

Most teams just have a jersey with the number and no name. For a team like Edmonton, they could choose whoever they wanted, so they only have one jersey with a name

[trancehead]

from some tsn comments on campell going to FLA:
maybe florida will take Luongo back

:troll:

[spideyv2]

from some tsn comments on campell going to FLA:


:troll:

lmfao at your sig


fuck i don't know why i'm still up

[Gh0stRider]

Flames trade D Robyn Regehr, F Ales Kotalik, 2nd rounder in 2012 to the Sabres for D Chris Butler, F Paul Byron.
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[jigga250]

Flames trade D Robyn Regehr, F Ales Kotalik, 2nd rounder in 2012 to the Sabres for D Chris Butler, F Paul Byron.
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LOL, what a horrible return they got, AND they gave up a pick:fullofwin:

Regehr actually had a reasonable cap hit of 4mil, also. Their defense is gonna be absolutely horrid next year. Epic fail.

[jigga250]

AND they just gave a 5yr deal to 32 y/o inconsistent Alex Tanguay....LOL

[Tim Budong]

The Jets drafted Zach Yuen
4th Rnd 119th pick

[gars]

The Jets drafted Zach Yuen
4th Rnd 119th pick

Hmmmm... Maybe I'll get a Jets Yuen jersey, if he ever ends up playing!! gotta represent my family!

[Tim Budong]

Canucks passed on a set of twins....swedish twins
picked up one of the two..

[b0unce. [?]]

filatov to sens for 3rd rounder, sens cashed in. good deal imo. kid has skill and potential.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Canucks passed on a set of twins....swedish twins
picked up one of the two..

we picked the more offensive Twin, but it would of been cool if we got the other one aswell. Having chemistry with someone is a huge upside

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=13146

[Amuse]

Zach Yuen. The jets traded up to get him at 119. Vancouver picked at 120. So I guess the Jets thought Vancouver would pick him up.
Too bad we couldn't draft him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3-bqV3XaHg

About the twin brother, I believe Gillis will draft him next year or sign him as a free agent when he becomes a FA.

[Hondaracer]

yea because an Asian player is going to address grit issues.. lol

[spideyv2]

Fuckin choked we didn't pick Yuen. We had the chance at pick 101, but instead we picked another centre from a minnesota high school. smh

[trancehead]

yea because an Asian player is going to address grit issues.. lol

Don Cherry called. He wants you to be his understudy

[jeedee]

A Recap of the Canucks Draft Day 2 (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=39648)

The most interesting prospect IMO, was David Honzik:

General manger Mike Gillis used the 71st pick to nab goaltender David Honzik, a 6-foot-2, 209-pound product of Tabor, Czech Republic, who spent last season with the QMJHL’s Victoriaville Tigers.

Honzik played in the HC Energie Karlovy Vary system prior to coming to Canada, but in just one season in the QMJHL he’s already drawing comparisons to a young Pekka Rinne of the Nashville Predators.

Backed by stellar play from Honzik, the Tigers were able to pull off an unlikely sweep of the Acadie-Bathurst Titan in the opening round of the 2011 QMJHL Playoffs, before losing to the Saint John Sea Dogs, the eventual champions, in the second round.

As Sportsnet columnist Patrick King discovered in talking with Tigers head coach Yanick Jean for his latest CHL column, once Honzik found consistency to his game, the Pekka comparisons began.

"A lot of scouts made the comparisons between both of them and I think it's a true fact," Jean told King. "(Rinne) was so good. I think Honzik was the same.

"The first half he had lots of ups and downs like any 17-year-old goalie. You would never know what you're going to get before a game. Second half, he had streaks that you would say, 'Oh, my god. He won five or six in a row.'

"From the end of February to the end of the playoffs, he was just outstanding. The last six or eight games he played for us during the year he was phenomenal."

[2blunt]

MG should have drafted Yuen because of the market in Vancouver, imagine the jersey sales... :)

[jigga250]

Zach Yuen. The jets traded up to get him at 119. Vancouver picked at 120. So I guess the Jets thought Vancouver would pick him up.
Too bad we couldn't draft him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3-bqV3XaHg

About the twin brother, I believe Gillis will draft him next year or sign him as a free agent when he becomes a FA.

He looked kinda pissed when his dad brought up that he used to figure skate

:facepalm:

[jeedee]

Just look at it this way guys...when he develops and makes it onto the Jets roster, he'll [hopefully] make a debut in Vancouver :thumbsup:

[Durrann]

Anyone check out the Steve Nash signings today
Mason Raymond and manny was there

Kinda stupid only one autograph per player
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[Tim Budong]

Yuen at 6ft 205lbs and MOBILE make him a pretty good pick

lets hope he develops well into the Jet's system
and no worries, Yuen can throw em.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWdHFEfyepk

[The Hype]

Anyone check out the Steve Nash signings today
Mason Raymond and manny was there

Kinda stupid only one autograph per player
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What's stupid about one autograph per person?

[jeedee]

What's stupid about one autograph per person?

He said PLAYER not PERSON.

It's stupid because you can only get ONE autograph from MayRay, Manny OR Nash

You can't get all 3 autographs, only 1.

[Amuse]

MG should have drafted Yuen because of the market in Vancouver, imagine the jersey sales... :)
Yeah, and you would see more Asians and Chinese media get interested in the Canucks.

[DanHibiki]

God I was pisse when we didn't pick up lucic and now yuen??
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[Not really racist!]

^Get over Yuen already, FFS

[DanHibiki]

^ It's only been several hours let me grief!

[pastarocket]

The Jensen draft pick addresses the weakest position in the Canucks: power forward. At 6 foot 2, 187 pounds, this guy has the potential to be the power forward that is lacking in our top 6. If he bulks up to 200 pounds, we got a damaging Dane to play for us.

[shawn79]

vancouver ALWAYS passes up on local talent

[jeedee]

^They didn't pass up on Prab Rai :troll:

But I agree...they have passed up on local talent in the past. Pisses me off more when they pass on Vancouver Giants players :fuuuuu:

[Grandmaster TSE]

time to get a jets jersey haha

[spoon.ek9]

What do you mean by how they won it?

There were a ton of people calling Vancouver as the most hated team in NHL.
And if Canucks sneaked in 4 nailbiter games and got completely destroyed 3 games,
people would be saying Canucks got lucky and didn't really deserve the cup.

So I guess no one would have been congratulation either team.

that's not what i was talking about lol.

[DanHibiki]

^They didn't pass up on Prab Rai :troll:

But I agree...they have passed up on local talent in the past. Pisses me off more when they pass on Vancouver Giants players :fuuuuu:

Like geez, Lucic ONLY played right here in their own back yard where you see him play so damn often. How they overlooked him is beyond me.

[shawn79]

time to get a jets jersey haha

if i wear another teams jersey i always have a canucks tshirt under :fuckyea:

[spoon.ek9]

hmm we reached 1000+ posts in this thread fairly quickly. hangover from SCF run? :lol

[mickz]

Like geez, Lucic ONLY played right here in their own back yard where you see him play so damn often. How they overlooked him is beyond me.

Lucic was predicted to go in either the 3rd or 4th round during his draft year. Boston took a huge gamble and took him in the 2nd. He didn't have a break out year until AFTER he was drafted and his stock shot up.

Nobody in the right mind would take a player in the 1st round that only tallied 19pts in 62 games.

[DanHibiki]

Lucic was predicted to go in either the 3rd or 4th round during his draft year. Boston took a huge gamble and took him in the 2nd. He didn't have a break out year until AFTER he was drafted and his stock shot up.

Nobody in the right mind would take a player in the 1st round that only tallied 19pts in 62 games.

Didn't we have an earlier pick in the 2nd round than Boston?

[jeedee]

Nope. We had the 14th overall pick and drafted Grabner. Our next pick was the 82nd overall pick and we drafted Rahimi.

Lucic was picked at 50th overall, so unless we made a trade for a 2nd rounder, there was no way of getting him.

[RRxtar]

that was one of our second rounders nonis traded away for rentals i believe

[DanHibiki]

I stand corrected

[jeedee]

that was one of our second rounders nonis traded away for rentals i believe

FUCKING NONIS DONUTS

:fuuuuu:

Ok. So he traded the 2nd rounder [46th overall pick] for Noronen a shit goaltender that played like 4 games for us. If we hadn't traded for him...we had a chance at Lucic.

:fuuuuu: :fuuuuu: :fuuuuu:

[b0unce. [?]]

OMG! In hindsight it's easy to say who we could have drafted based on how successful they turned out to be. Every team has scouting staff that does their homework. Detroit is famous for their scouting staff, and everyone knows this. Datsyuk was drafted something like 173 or something ridiculous. I think Zetterberg is like 200+

[DanHibiki]

^Ya but this is different in that Lucic played right here in Vancouver.

[jeedee]

If anyone out there is like me, and can't wait for October to come:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqEx_2_9-58

Enjoy. 1 hour of all the Canucks goals from this season :thumbsup:

[spoon.ek9]

detroit is so good at finding those diamonds in the rough. i wonder which of our current prospects will truly pan out.

[DanHibiki]

detroit is so good at finding those diamonds in the rough. i wonder which of our current prospects will truly pan out.

Grabne---aww fuck

[falcon]

Reminds me of a young Kesler. Similar stride and wrist shot... kinda weird.

Looks like I'm not the only one that was thinking this. A bunch of posts on youtube, people call him the next Kes.

And yes, I just quoted myself. :spamarama:

[gars]

;7490113']OMG! In hindsight it's easy to say who we could have drafted based on how successful they turned out to be. Every team has scouting staff that does their homework. Detroit is famous for their scouting staff, and everyone knows this. Datsyuk was drafted something like 173 or something ridiculous. I think Zetterberg is like 200+

Bure was drafted 113th overall.

[krazynuck]

edler was like 91
bieksa was like 145

[mickz]

^Ya but this is different in that Lucic played right here in Vancouver.

Yes he played in Vancouver but you're missing the point that he was ranked much lower than where he actually went. I'm sure the Canucks would've considered him had he been available in the third or fourth round. If you just looked at nothing but his stats in the 05/06 season you would've assumed he was nothing more than a goon.

Good on Boston for doing their homework and taking a chance on him but not very many teams would draft a guy 50 spots ahead of where he was slotted to go.

Bure was drafted 113th overall.

Had other teams known he was draft eligible he would've went way higher than that.

[DanHibiki]

Bure was drafted 113th overall.

This was due to some legal complications and not because he was a diamond in the rough.


Bure was selected 113th overall in the 6th round of the 1989 NHL Entry Draft by the Vancouver Canucks, following his rookie season with CSKA Moscow. The pick was controversial, as the Canucks had chosen him seemingly a year ahead of his eligible draft season. At the age of 18, he was available to be chosen in the first three rounds of the draft, but in order to be selected any later than that, he would had to have played in at least two seasons (with a minimum of 11 games per season) for his elite-level European club, the Central Red Army.[18] However, the Canucks' head scout at the time, Mike Penny, discovered that Bure had played in additional exhibition and international games to make him an eligible late-round draft choice a year early.[3][4]

Several other teams either had similar knowledge or had pursued Bure, but there was confusion as to the legitimacy of the extra games. The Detroit Red Wings had inquired to league vice president Gil Stein as to Bure's supposed availability prior to their fifth-round pick, but were told that he was not eligible.[18] Winnipeg Jets general manager Mike Smith claimed he travelled to Moscow prior to the draft and made a offer to the Soviet Ice Hockey Federation. The deal involved a transfer fee to be paid to the Soviets over three years, after which time, Bure would join the Jets as a 21-year-old. Smith did not have any plans to draft Bure in 1989, however, as he believed Bure was ineligible.[19]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Bure#Transfer_to_the_NHL_.281989.E2.80.93199 1.29

[mb_]

Everyone needs to chill out about us not drafting Lucic. There is no way you'll be able to 100% predict how a player will turn out in the NHL. GMs will draft the best player available that addresses the teams needs when they make their announcement. Unless it's Milbury :troll:
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[b0unce. [?]]

edler was like 91
bieksa was like 145

edler was more of a diamond in the rough. edler is showing signs he's going to be a top defenceman and a future norris winner for sure. bieksa is not an all star, i'm not hating on him, i just dont consider him a diamond in the rough. i doubt he'll win the norris. he's developed well over the years, but he's not on the same level as zetterberg or datsyuk.

but my point in the earlier post was just to show how easy it was to say afterwards which player we SHOULD have drafted or which trades would have been better etc.

Everyone needs to chill out about us not drafting Lucic. There is no way you'll be able to 100% predict how a player will turn out in the NHL. GMs will draft the best player available that addresses the teams needs when they make their announcement. Unless it's Milbury :troll:
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yeah teams development system varies a lot too. i doubt grabner's career would be where it is if he bounced between the ahl and the 4th line for us. his career is taking off now that he has a chance to get some top minutes and get better. teams like detroit aren't afraid of throwing in young guys and giving them minutes to get better. whereas canucks so far have been hesitant to play hodgsen and he's been seeing shit ice time and shitty line mates to boot.

[DanHibiki]

I remember there was an article about Edler and only us, Detroit, and one other team scouted Edler and really wanted him.

[b0unce. [?]]

I remember there was an article about Edler and only us, Detroit, and one other team scouted Edler and really wanted him.

i remember nonis or our scouts found some kid whos now playing for like dallas or something, i can't remember. he debuted in the nhl with a hat trick too! some big swedish kid. anyways, he turned out to be a bust :lol

[spoon.ek9]

Grabne---aww fuck

like someone just said, grabner would have never had the chance to "blossom" like he has with NYI had he stayed with our team.

[pure.life]

;7490172']i remember nonis or our scouts found some kid whos now playing for like dallas or something, i can't remember. he debuted in the nhl with a hat trick too! some big swedish kid. anyways, he turned out to be a bust :lol

I think I know who you are talking about. Bustromm

[spoon.ek9]

yeah, i remember that hat trick debut too. he never did anything significant after that lol.

[SkinnyPupp]

I think I know who you are talking about. Bustromm
Yeah Brunstrom LOL I remember Darren Dreger talking him up like fucking crazy, talking about how the Canucks were ready to trade the Sedins away for his rights... That guy is such a cunt

And lately he has been continually suggesting that Luongo is on the trade market, and that there is a "goalie controversy" between him and Schneider.. fuck you darren dreger you cunt

[spoon.ek9]

there's still rumours about florida wanting to take lu back :facepalm:

i can't believe how gullible some people are hah

[Ronin]

No one would give a shit about this Yuen kid if he wasn't Asian. C'mon...he's got some talent but c'mon...is it that big of a deal?

[murd0c]

sometimes I wish I could go into the future and find out the best high round draft picks so I can tell the Canucks LOL

[JesseBlue]

If I can go to the future...I wouldnt be looking for hockey info...Ala hot tub time machine

[jeedee]

I remember there was an article about Edler and only us, Detroit, and one other team scouted Edler and really wanted him.

Yeah I think I read the same article on TheHockeyNews. It was only the Canucks and Detroit interested in Edler. The Detroit scout didn't bother to look at Edler and one Canucks scout actually made the trip down to Sweden and watch him play. If it wasn't for that scout, today, Edler would be playing for Detroit.

Edit: Found the article:

In 2004, Detroit Red Wings super scout Hakan Andersson heard there was a big, strong-skating, draft-eligible defensemen playing for an obscure team in Ostersund, Sweden. The low-level loop described by some as little better than a beer league wasn't a place NHL scouts searched for prospects, but Andersson believed it was worth making the six-hour drive from his home to check the player out in person.

Not wanting to make the drive only to find out the kid wasn't playing, Andersson called ahead to make sure he was. Ostersund's coach, realizing he might have a diamond in the rough on his hands, contacted agent Johan Stromberg who promptly signed the prospect and sent out word to NHL teams that he knew of a blueliner from a small-time team they'd be interested in seeing.

But it was late in the season. Ostersund had one game remaining and wasn't going to make the playoffs, so NHL teams had a lone chance to see the player before the draft.

Vancouver's Thomas Gradin was the only scout who made the trip and he must have liked what he saw. Worrying the Wings would snag the defenseman, the Canucks traded up in the third round of the 2004 draft to select Alex Edler seven slots before Detroit was selecting.

The Red Wings who were indeed planning on scooping Edler that round, ended up with Johan Franzen instead. Not too shabby.

But what if Andersson hadn't made that fateful phone call? Edler might currently be manning the Detroit blueline. Franzen would have been drafted by another NHL team and never signed an 11-year pact with Detroit.

And with no need for a big, puck-moving defensemen at the 2005 draft, the Red Wings likely wouldn't have drafted Jakub Kindl. Instead Detroit could have taken a scorer - Nicklas Bergfors, Andrew Cogliano or T.J. Oshie were available, as was netminder Tuuka Rask.

[gars]

No one would give a shit about this Yuen kid if he wasn't Asian. C'mon...he's got some talent but c'mon...is it that big of a deal?

My last name is actually Yuen, so I want him for purely selfish reasons. I'd actually consider getting a Jets jersey if he actually plays decently.

[spideyv2]

there's still rumours about florida wanting to take lu back :facepalm:

i can't believe how gullible some people are hah

They probably do want him, too bad they won't get him :fullofwin:
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[b0unce. [?]]

They probably do want him, too bad they won't get him :fullofwin:
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at this point im happy with luongo if he wants to stay. but the door is open for him to leave if he wants :) i'd be fine with schnieder as our full time guy between the pipes ;)

[spoon.ek9]

i'd be a bit nervous to rely fully on cory at this point in time. yes, he's a solid backup but he didn't exactly play the toughest teams last season. also, who would be his backup? eddie lack? lol

our window to win is still here but it won't last forever. we need all hands on deck.

[LSF22]

Oilers acquire Ryan Smyth from LA for Colin Fraser and a 7th round pick in 2012 draft

as per TSN.ca

[spoon.ek9]

eh? i thought the trade was for Brule and a 4th rounder..?

[LSF22]

eh? i thought the trade was for Brule and a 4th rounder..?


the brule trade got rejected cuz LA was gonna just buy out his contract, but its not allowed cuz brule is injured at the moment...
against NHLPA rules or something...

[Simulated]

still kinda odd how they downgraded from a 4th rounder to 7th round.

as for luongo, it's sad that so many would like to see this guy shipped out. i've never shown much support for luongo over the years but he still is our best chance at a cup. we can't afford to trade him NOW only to find out the hard way that schneids can't do it either. you don't get 15 playoff wins in a year by fluke. vancouver is a tough market for goalies. schneids may be solid as a backup but what if he can't handle the pressure of being the #1 in vancouver? that's a risk i don't wanna take when our main guys are now all hitting their primes right now.

[LSF22]

no offense to fraser either, but hes def a downgrade from brule too.... didnt make sense to me either

[RiceIntegraRS]

The LA-EDM deal is more of a salary dump than anything else i believe. They just picked up Mike Richards and Drew Doughty is probably set to be the highest paid player on that team, or at the very least close to it. And they still have a bunch of players yet to sign

[Jermyzy]

This was due to some legal complications and not because he was a diamond in the rough.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Bure#Transfer_to_the_NHL_.281989.E2.80.93199 1.29

I don't follow hockey so bear with me, as I watch mostly NBA. Do players have to declare for the NHL draft or can teams just draft any player that is "eligible" (e.g. if Pavel Bure was not eligible, how did he get entry to the draft?) In the NBA, players who are draft-eligible must declare themselves to be part of the draft in order to be drafted by teams...

[Tim Budong]

yea he's asian..thats why he's getting more publicity than usual for a low ranked kid
but the scouts had him much higher with his size...here is his post draft interview with BUTTFUGLY.....talking about the canucks....his past, and other things

http://www.myspace.com/video/nhl/zach-yuen-and-dustin-byfuglien-interview/107998613

[spideyv2]

yea he's asian..thats why he's getting more publicity than usual for a low ranked kid
but the scouts had him much higher with his size...here is his post draft interview with BUTTFUGLY.....talking about the canucks....his past, and other things

http://www.myspace.com/video/nhl/zach-yuen-and-dustin-byfuglien-interview/107998613

Man...imagine how happy that kid would be in the interview if the Canucks selected him

[cliffhanger33]

Personally wished Canucks found a much stronger and tougher blueliner who can finish his checks, would have been a great contribution to the team.
Nicklas Jensen is a great winger, but hmm, it doesnt add much to the team imo as plenty of the canucks already have the skill and tool of Jensen.

But I'm confident for the next season :thumbsup:

[goo3]

still kinda odd how they downgraded from a 4th rounder to 7th round.


Yeah, more about dumping salary than the players


Sources say the Kings were willing to accept Brule as part of the deal with the intent of buying him out, however the collective bargaining agreement forbids teams from buying out an injured player.

The Kings were then willing to trade Smyth for a 7th round pick without including Brule in the deal but the Oilers wanted to move out some salary.


http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370077

[nosaj]

Happy birthday Alex Bolduc! :)

[murd0c]

Happy birthday Alex Bolduc! :)

Canucks Twitter eh :D

[b0unce. [?]]

it's always ''cool'' to draft a hometown kid, but in the end, all that matters is building a winning team.

[SkinnyPupp]

Personally wished Canucks found a much stronger and tougher blueliner who can finish his checks, would have been a great contribution to the team.
Nicklas Jensen is a great winger, but hmm, it doesnt add much to the team imo as plenty of the canucks already have the skill and tool of Jensen.

But I'm confident for the next season :thumbsup:
What's weird is that they had a great young winger in Michael Grabner, but dealt him because he wasn't "gritty" enough. Then he turned out to be a Calder candidate. Then they go and draft another young Dansih winger who also isn't gritty.. like wtf?

[jeedee]

What's weird is that they had a great young winger in Michael Grabner, but dealt him because he wasn't "gritty" enough. Then he turned out to be a Calder candidate. Then they go and draft another young Dansih winger who also isn't gritty.. like wtf?

The reason he turned out to be a Calder candidate is because of his numbers he put up with the Islanders, on their second line.

There was NO way at all that Grabner would be playing on our current top 6 lineup before we dealt him. He would be a 4th liner at most with the Canucks system. He had more icetime with the Islanders, and would've had barely any icetime with us.

[SkinnyPupp]

My point being, they traded away pretty much the exact same type of player, only better...

[jeedee]

Oh well. It's in the past. We didn't exactly lose in that trade..Florida put Grabner on waivers and got claimed by the Islanders.

They basically "gave away" a 30+ goal scorer for free, so sucks for them :troll:

[spoon.ek9]

grabner admitted himself that he wasn't prepared for training camp with florida. he also knew that the islanders are basically the last bus stop of the NHL so he did things right.

[CRS]

grabner admitted himself that he wasn't prepared for training camp with florida. he also knew that the islanders are basically the last bus stop of the NHL so he did things right.

He also was given an appropriate role and given the icetime as well. He would have never seen that in Vancouver or Florida for that matter.

[RiceIntegraRS]

I love how everyone automatically assumes that theres no possible way Grabner would of put up the same #s if he were in Vancouver, but no one knows that for sure. Yeah he played for the Islanders but he still played against the same teams everyone else played against and still was able to score 34 Goals and thats pretty impressive. Whats more impressive is that he barely had any PP icetime and the majority of his goals were at Even Strength. He only averaged 15mins a game, which is basically 3rd line minutes. When Raymond went down he would of easily played in our top 6 no problem. This guy has world class speed, and theres not many people that can match his acceleration. When he got traded away i thought it was a huge loss, but i thought it was all part of a bigger plan come playoffs. But seeing Ballard not being used like he should of, it seems like the trade didnt pan out great for us, but MGs intentions were in the right place though

[SkinnyPupp]

Exactly. The whole "Well he played for the Islanders on a top 2 line" doesn't make sense to me. Are you saying that any 3rd or 4th line rookie will be a 30 goal scorer if you just move him to a top 2 line? Makes no sense to me, and sounds more like a homer excuse than anything. Canucks and Panthers both fucked up with this guy, and then the Canucks go and draft a similar, but not as good, player... still makes no sense to me, homer excuses or not.

[SkinnyPupp]

Have you guys seen the projected realignment proposals floating around? here's one that cuts it down to 4 division, moving teams to proper timezones (top chart is the current alignment)

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/ee/eef202f40fc7cb8b1fbc9639a4fead9e/nhl_realignment_plan_improving_or_meddling_with_pl ayoffs.jpg

If that happens, so much for another easy Presidents' trophy.. Instead of playing pathetic NW Division teams like Edmonton and Calgary, they'll be playing San Jose, Anaheim, and LA all the time (LA is going to be scary starting next season IMO)

South Division looks brutal, too. Looks to me like Boston would benefit from this realignment most... Pretty weak division, but that will be 2 seasons from now so who knows...

I really like the idea of having the first round of the playoffs all division battles. Should make for some nice rivalries again :)

[LSF22]

^ why are colorado n winnipeg highlighted?

florida is gonna get raped in the south division lol

[carisear]

bring back the smythe division!!

i'd love to see the nhl go back to 4 divisions.

another change i'd love to see but will probably never happen is to get 3 points for a win, and only 1 for an otl.

[spoon.ek9]

He also was given an appropriate role and given the icetime as well. He would have never seen that in Vancouver or Florida for that matter.

i said that on page 44 :p

[SkinnyPupp]

bring back the smythe division!!

i'd love to see the nhl go back to 4 divisions.

another change i'd love to see but will probably never happen is to get 3 points for a win, and only 1 for an otl.
Or better yet, 2 points for a win, 0 points for a loss, whether it's OT or not. Get rid of the shoot out.

[LSF22]

http://lockerz.com/s/114468425

[Ronin]

4 divisions = inevitable expansion to balance the league at 32 teams.

The "easy" and "hard" divisions will be balanced over time. I mean, until the last two years, the NW was full of contenders. That's now the Pacific, where Dallas was the only one to miss the playoffs and only by one game.

I don't care...as long as travel is balanced. Ridiculous that NY teams drive down the road but Detroit has to fly halfway across the continent almost every night.

[Ronin]

The NHL fucking loves the shootout. It's a hit in the States, I'm sure.

florida is gonna get raped anywhere

Fixed.

The only way the Panthers are competitive is if they switch to the AHL.

[SkinnyPupp]

Then how about 2 points for a win, 1 point for tie, 0 points for loss, even in OT

So going into shoot out, each team has 1 point. The shootout winner gets HALF a point. Shootout loser still gets 1 point

I just don't like the idea of a team fully benefiting from just winning a shootout after not being able to beat the other team in a game + OT.

[LSF22]

The only way the Panthers are competitive is if they switch to the AHL.


i wouldnt mind that at all... no offense to any panthers fan reading...

hmm any chance of florida maybe being the next team to relocate?

[SkinnyPupp]

I imagine the next team will be Phoenix once the city gets tired of paying hundreds of millions of dollars for nothing.

[Ronin]

Then how about 2 points for a win, 1 point for tie, 0 points for loss, even in OT

So going into shoot out, each team has 1 point. The shootout winner gets HALF a point. Shootout loser still gets 1 point

I just don't like the idea of a team fully benefiting from just winning a shootout after not being able to beat the other team in a game + OT.

The NHL is all about dumbing shit down for Americans. No chance they'll follow a complicated system where there are half points...

[spideyv2]

The NHL is all about dumbing shit down for Americans. No chance they'll follow a complicated system where there are half points...

my thoughts exactly. Half point system would be confusing and unnecessary

[AzNightmare]

3 pt system is probably the best (3pt regulation win, 2pt OT/SO win, 1 pt OT/SO loss).
3 points get distributed at the end of each game.
It's BS how some games can possibly hand out 3 pts and some only 2 with our current system.

And I like the shoot outs.
Every time the game remains tied after regulation,
I wait for the "5 min filler" to pass by and eagerly await for the shoot out to decide the outcome.

The shoot out really puts me on the edge of my seat every time.

[snowball]

The NHL is all about dumbing shit down for Americans. No chance they'll follow a complicated system where there are half points...

Baseball and basketball always has those 17.5 games behind... never understood it, will never try to

[SkinnyPupp]

The NHL is all about dumbing shit down for Americans. No chance they'll follow a complicated system where there are half points...
double up the numbers then

[Ronin]

Baseball and basketball always has those 17.5 games behind... never understood it, will never try to

That one is sorta easy, actually...it's basically the difference in wins/losses relative to the number of games played by each team.

[skippynixx]

Or better yet, 2 points for a win, 0 points for a loss, whether it's OT or not. Get rid of the shoot out.

Perfect! Get rid of the loser points

[LSF22]

Vancouver Canucks officially name the Chicago Wolves as their AHL affiliate.

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=567422

[krazynuck]

Vancouver Canucks officially name the Chicago Wolves as their AHL affiliate.

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=567422

lets hope its good relationship that can be formed

[spoon.ek9]

not good news imo :(

[murd0c]

Lorne Henning just confirmed that the Cnaucks sent qualifying offers to Oreskovich, Lapierre and Hansen

[highfive]

Read on CDC. Eklund confirmed Bieksa signed for less money with the Canucks. I know it's Eklund but fuck yeah if he did signed!!!!

[sonick]

Less money than market, but still a raise... Supposed to be just under 4.5mil.

[7seven]

Exactly. The whole "Well he played for the Islanders on a top 2 line" doesn't make sense to me. Are you saying that any 3rd or 4th line rookie will be a 30 goal scorer if you just move him to a top 2 line? Makes no sense to me, and sounds more like a homer excuse than anything. Canucks and Panthers both fucked up with this guy, and then the Canucks go and draft a similar, but not as good, player... still makes no sense to me, homer excuses or not.

My opinion is that Grabner wouldn't have had the same offensive output/development on the Canucks because of the coach. It's clear that AV clearly has his favorites and type of players he likes. AV doesn't really trust the young skilled players like Grabner, Hodgson and Shirokov, if they make 1 mistake, they seem to be planted to the bench or press box. Whereas young grinders and career 3rd/4th line guys like Glass, Oreo, Bolduc, Desbiens can make mistakes repeatedly and AV keeps playing them.

Lorne Henning just confirmed that the Cnaucks sent qualifying offers to Oreskovich, Lapierre and Hansen

Kuzma seems to think Shirokov won't be qualified, making him a UFA. That would be a mistake IMO, he was the Moose's top player and had a awesome playoffs for the Moose. Thought he showed some signs in his brief time with the Canucks, even if Shirokov didn't make the Canucks or goes back to the KHL, at least qualify him to retain his rights or continue to develop him in the AHL.

[clowe]

EDIT: not confirmed.

EDIT2: Bob McKenzie (not fake :whistle:) is reporting that it's a done deal

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Kevin Bieksa has agreed to terms on a new contract with the Canucks.

[CRS]

Nick Kypreos

That's actually a killer deal.

[sonick]

+1, 4.2 not too bad.

[murd0c]

4.2 is a fricken steal WOW

[LSF22]

bieksa must know a contender when he sees one :jiggy:

[MR_BIGGS]

If that deal is true, it will be interesting to see what Ehrhoff does.

[clowe]

Sorry guys, my bad. Someone re-tweeted a fake Kypreos account (RealKyper_ instead of RealKyper). I should've known something was up when it didn't show up on my timeline.

Bieksa's contract terms are still completely unknown at this point if he has indeed signed.

[lacubrious1]

^ Well either way it looks like he's close to signing

sportsnetmurph:
Nothing concrete, but Bieksa should be done soon RT @22Sedin33: for all the players gillis has to sign he has sure been quiet. Any updates?

[b0unce. [?]]

@trevor_linden
Join me at Save-On foods Highgate Village in Burnaby from 5:30-7:30 and let me personally enroll u in Club 16 TL Fitness opening July 21st

[Tim Budong]

BobMckenzie just tweeted Juice signed
no details on numbers tho

[spoon.ek9]

is there a TL Fitness club in richmond? my gym pass expired, looking to get a new one.

[clowe]

This one is the RealKyper:

RealKyper Nick Kypreos
#Canucks. #NHL news. Heard at the draft the cap hit for Bieksa in Van would be around 4.7M on a long term deal but not confirmed right now.

[RacingMetro92]

is there a TL Fitness club in richmond? my gym pass expired, looking to get a new one.

Checked the website, and nope. But I wouldn't be surprised if there is one within the next year. Their price (14.99/month) is pretty good compared to rec centres and other gyms.

[krazynuck]

its on TSN main page now that he signed

[Simulated]

i'm glad to see Bieksa back. lets hope hamhuis will be able to return to form soon.

[7seven]

;7491796']@trevor_linden
Join me at Save-On foods Highgate Village in Burnaby from 5:30-7:30 and let me personally enroll u in Club 16 TL Fitness opening July 21st

LOL my parents signed up for his gym with him a few months ago. Received a signed picture from him and he signed a jersey for my dad. The Highgate gym location was originally supposed to open in June, but they ran into delays.

[RacingMetro92]

SportsnetMurph says that Bieksa's deal is 5 years long, 4.5 million range. Pretty good deal for the Canucks, coulda picked up over 5 easily on the free market.

[Ronin]

I hear $4.7m which is still good, 5 years.

I'm worried about what this means for Ehrhoff. He had 50 points so he should be getting a big raise...maybe $6m. I was hoping Ehrhoff would be at around $5m-$5.25m because if he gets that, Edler would probably get the same but if we give Ehrhoff something crazy, it would mean we'd have to match that with Edler and have a blueline full of guys making more than $4m.

In two years...

Edler ($6m) + Ehrhoff ($6) + Hamhuis ($4.5) + Bieksa ($4.7) + Ballard ($4.2) + Salo ($2) + Tanev (900k) + Rome (750k) = $29.05m blueline

Not bad but it firmly commits us to the top 5 D-men long term.

[b0unce. [?]]

@FarhanLaljiTSN
Bieksa's deal is 5 years, 4.6 million per. With a no trade clause. #Canucks

[7seven]

FarhanLaljiTSN Farhan Lalji
by capgeek
Bieksa's deal is 5 years, 4.6 million per. With a no trade clause. #Canucks

The thing the Nucks need to be careful with is the NTC and these ~5mil > per cap hits. With Edler and Burrows due up in a couple years, don't need to be handcuffed.

[Ronin]

With Bieksa's $4.7m, the Canucks are now at $50.4m for next year so they have $13.9m to spend.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Samuelsson
$ - Malhotra - $
No fourth line yet

Edler $
Hamhuis Bieksa
Rome Ballard

So we have 5 forward and one D spot to fill with $13.9m. Easy even if Ehrhoff gets $6m but let's assume he gets $5.5m.

Ehrhoff $5.5
Torres $1.5
Hansen $1.25
Lapierre $1.25
Oreo $800k
Glass $800k
Tamby $800k

And still got $2m under the cap.

I would prefer to keep Hansen and Lappy but I also think we might see some of the prospects play up on the 3rd and 4th line this year.

The problem I see is that all these contracts will still be going in 2 years and in '13-14, Malhotra, Edler and Burrows could all be up for a raise...Burr especially as he's been playing for $2m, which is insanity for a guy that scores 35 goals.

[Simulated]

i'd like to see tanev play more this year.

[RacingMetro92]

Hopefully the Canucks find someway to unload Ballard to another team to free up that cap space. Tanev and Rome can fill out the bottom pair, and is Parent even a viable option on the D-line? He is on a one-way deal isn't he?

[Ch28]

Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts

[b0unce. [?]]

maybe hodgsen will finally crack the line up. seems like the kid has been in the minors for decades.

[7seven]

and is Parent even a viable option on the D-line? He is on a one-way deal isn't he?

Yup, 1 way deal left with 1 more year at $925k

[trancehead]

To be honest i was hoping Bieksa's cap hit would not come too close to, or even exceed that of Hamhuis's. But at least we have another blueliner secured. Hopefully the german's cap hit doesn't sky rocket

[Mizter]

Text from TSN says its 5 years for 23million

[7seven]

I'm hoping for a very limited NTC or no NTC for Ehrhoff. Right now we have Sedins, Kesler, Lu, Hamhuis, Bieska and Maholtra with NTC.

[lol]

Does anyone agree with me that they dislike they idea of rule changes pertaining to points awarded per game, moving teams to diff conferences etc makes the game less i duno "traditional". I don't think that's the right word. But it makes it hard to compare todays NHL to hockey 10 years ago because shit was so different. It's hard to gauge any type of trends when teams are moving around, conferences and divisions switch, lets not forget the new scheduling (canucks barely playing any east coast teams and vise versa anymore).

I understand its critical to make changes to the game to keep it entertaining for fans and safe for players.

Maybe i'm just old lol

[Expresso]

Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts

The sad fact is there was no way the Bieksa deal would have been done without an NTC. You gotta give to get. If you want Bieksa to take lower than market value you have to give something in return.

[spoon.ek9]

good to see bieksa sticking around!

[Ronin]

I'm hoping for a very limited NTC or no NTC for Ehrhoff. Right now we have Sedins, Kesler, Lu, Hamhuis, Bieska and Maholtra with NTC.

There are worse problems than having those guys under NTCs.

For a little perspective, Calgary gave Matt Stajan a NTC...and, well, there's no other way to describe his magnificence except that he had 31 points in 76 games last year and he's making $3.5m.

Oh what's that? The Leafs, you say? Oh, they have Mike Komisarek (1-9-10, -8, 86PIM, 146 hits, 117 blocks) under a NTC. He'll be making $6,000,000 this year, $4.5 against the cap. What's he need a NTC for? Who's retarded enough to trade for that contract!?

At least all our NTCs are given to real players.

[RacingMetro92]

Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts
Bieksa was prime trade bait at the deadline this season. The NTC, I assume, would give Juice the peace of mind that he's here for good and give the Canucks a big discount in return cause he likes it here.

[spoon.ek9]

i think the cat was out of the bag when we heard he was renovating his apartment :troll:

[nubtub]

http://www.facebook.com/Canucks/posts/10150264968227145

you guys gotta see this. there are some real retarded people in this city lol one guy proposed tanner glass (UFA) and hansen (RFA) for corey perry

[spoon.ek9]

sounds like a mike murphy trade

[Great68]

Does anyone agree with me that they dislike they idea of rule changes pertaining to points awarded per game, moving teams to diff conferences etc makes the game less i duno "traditional". I don't think that's the right word. But it makes it hard to compare todays NHL to hockey 10 years ago because shit was so different. It's hard to gauge any type of trends when teams are moving around, conferences and divisions switch, lets not forget the new scheduling (canucks barely playing any east coast teams and vise versa anymore).

I understand its critical to make changes to the game to keep it entertaining for fans and safe for players.

Maybe i'm just old lol

I'd like to have at least one home & away game against every eastern conference team per season.

[Ronin]

http://www.facebook.com/Canucks/posts/10150264968227145

you guys gotta see this. there are some real retarded people in this city lol one guy proposed tanner glass (UFA) and hansen (RFA) for corey perry

Did Mike Milbury get a job in Anaheim?

i think the cat was out of the bag when we heard he was renovating his apartment :troll:

Not really. Lots of players keep off-season homes where they started their careers. Look at Luongo's house in Florida. Jovo heads back there each year too, for example.

[Simulated]

the NTC makes sense given setoguchi just got traded a day after signing his contract. i'd imagine that he must be pissed thinking he can play for the sharks who are still contending to now play for the wild instead. i don't think bieksa would have wanted that if he were to take less money to stay in vancouver.

[nubtub]

canucks need to get rid of ballard for a top six. it sucks that they gave up so much for him to be put in the press box by AV

[nubtub]

YAY!

http://fortnucks.blogspot.com/2011/06/marathon-mason.html

good to see him happy and well

[spoon.ek9]

i still think ballard should be traded as well. for the benefit of himself and the canucks. if we aren't going to use the guy at $4.2mil, trade him already....

[nubtub]

^ after july 1st and all the d-men are gone, I think teams will actually start calling for him...probably be lowballing since the situation with him and AV blew up but maybe for a top 6 forward. that would be nice..

[stuff99]

My opinion is that Grabner wouldn't have had the same offensive output/development on the Canucks because of the coach. It's clear that AV clearly has his favorites and type of players he likes. AV doesn't really trust the young skilled players like Grabner, Hodgson and Shirokov, if they make 1 mistake, they seem to be planted to the bench or press box. Whereas young grinders and career 3rd/4th line guys like Glass, Oreo, Bolduc, Desbiens can make mistakes repeatedly and AV keeps playing them.



Kuzma seems to think Shirokov won't be qualified, making him a UFA. That would be a mistake IMO, he was the Moose's top player and had a awesome playoffs for the Moose. Thought he showed some signs in his brief time with the Canucks, even if Shirokov didn't make the Canucks or goes back to the KHL, at least qualify him to retain his rights or continue to develop him in the AHL.

Honestly, some call me crazy but this is why I think AV has to go. Canucks went deep inspite of him, not because of him. It makes no sense how he treats his skilled players like that. In fact, Sedins have one of the lowest ice time out of any 1st line units in the NHL. Boggles my mind.

Pretty soon we will lose Hodgson too ala Cam Neely style. Neely wasn't played by management either.

[lol]

AV doesn't win Jack adams awards for nothing tho..

Sedins don't get monster ice time like other top lines because unlike a lot of teams in the NHL, the canucks can roll all 4 lines and compete. Keeps everyone fresh for 60 mins which is maybe why the canucks for a few yrs now have been the best in 3rd periods.

There is just no room for Cody really on this team. It sucks cuz i want to see him play too.

[stuff99]

AV doesn't win Jack adams awards for nothing tho..

Sedins don't get monster ice time like other top lines because unlike a lot of teams in the NHL, the canucks can roll all 4 lines and compete. Keeps everyone fresh for 60 mins which is maybe why the canucks for a few yrs now have been the best in 3rd periods.

There is just no room for Cody really on this team. It sucks cuz i want to see him play too.

You're telling me Cody can't play better than what Tanner Glass had to offer? Or Boulduc?

Canucks really only roll 3 lines. If you have a stacked team like the Canucks you can win the Jack Adams too.

[Ronin]

You're telling me Cody can't play better than what Tanner Glass had to offer? Or Boulduc?

Canucks really only roll 3 lines. If you have a stacked team like the Canucks you can win the Jack Adams too.

Toughness. Hodgson doesn't really play a very physical game at this point. 3rd and 4th lines need a little grit. The Canucks don't have a dedicated tough guy but there's some toughness in each of the 4 lines and in all the D-men.

[Simulated]

AV won the Jack Adams back in 06-07 when the team wasn't deemed as 'stacked'

[taker]

AV won the Jack Adams back in 06-07 when the team wasn't deemed as 'stacked'

You mean Luongo won the Jack Adams back in 06-07.

[lol]

You're telling me Cody can't play better than what Tanner Glass had to offer? Or Boulduc?

Canucks really only roll 3 lines. If you have a stacked team like the Canucks you can win the Jack Adams too.

I just think the last thing the canucks need is another vagina getting tossed around on the ice.

[taker]

Toughness. Hodgson doesn't really play a very physical game at this point. 3rd and 4th lines need a little grit. The Canucks don't have a dedicated tough guy but there's some toughness in each of the 4 lines and in all the D-men.

That's fine but Glass doesn't bring toughness.

Our third line was Torres, Lapierre, Hansen, so there's enough grit there. 4th line had Oreskovich and Malhotra, and AV isn't gonna scratch Manny if he can play. Oreskovich actually hits and he can make plays. I don't remember Glass hitting anything and he certainly can't make or take a pass and is really a hindrance to the puck possession style Vancouver plays. For Glass to be effective he should be playing more like a Sean Thornton. If Glass isn't going to hit anything he really doesn't bring much to the lineup. Hodgson can at least help move the puck, Glass doesn't support the puck well and is really why our 4th line is always hemmed in their own zone. Hodgson should've been used on the 2nd unit PP especially when our PP was trash the entire series.

[spoon.ek9]

we only had 3 lines all year long. the 4th line had a revolving door permanently attached to it.

[Great68]

I just think the last thing the canucks need is another vagina getting tossed around on the ice.

I agree,

If there's one thing I think the Bruins exposed this year is that the Canucks forwards need more toughness.

[Ronin]

That's fine but Glass doesn't bring toughness.

Our third line was Torres, Lapierre, Hansen, so there's enough grit there. 4th line had Oreskovich and Malhotra, and AV isn't gonna scratch Manny if he can play. Oreskovich actually hits and he can make plays. I don't remember Glass hitting anything and he certainly can't make or take a pass and is really a hindrance to the puck possession style Vancouver plays. For Glass to be effective he should be playing more like a Sean Thornton. If Glass isn't going to hit anything he really doesn't bring much to the lineup. Hodgson can at least help move the puck, Glass doesn't support the puck well and is really why our 4th line is always hemmed in their own zone. Hodgson should've been used on the 2nd unit PP especially when our PP was trash the entire series.

Doesn't have to be Glass. I'm just saying that's the case against Hodgson on the 4th line as opposed to a real 4th liner. Hodgson is a 1st or 2nd line player but he's grass green so you can't put him up there when we have such an established top two lines. He isn't going to be good at the 4th line role because he's not that type of player and 4th line players aren't going to be the sort of guys that complement his style of play.

Hodgson's best case scenario is that a top line player gets injured and he slots in to that spot temporarily and can prove himself. I think he's going to get that opportunity playing wing with Kesler and Samuelsson since Raymond may start the season on IR. He'll get his shot with real skilled players that can finish. Hopefully he has a good camp and gets the 2nd line LW spot. He's more of a playmaker and Kes/Samuelsson have the finish, although Kesler will probably stay center since Hodgson's face-off skills aren't there yet.

But he shouldn't be on the 4th line and wait for that chance. He should play down on the Wolves until there's a top line spot he can take advantage of.

[DanHibiki]

omg. this bieksa deal is shades of his first year...

one good season and BAM big contract.

He better keep it up or fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[krazynuck]

omg. this bieksa deal is shades of his first year...

one good season and BAM big contract.

He better keep it up or fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

everyone plays better in contract years....he is no different then any other player out there on the market

[spoon.ek9]

the difference is, he has hamhuis as a stable partner (defensively). barring any freak accidents, i think bieksa will be just fine :D

[pastarocket]

Good deal by Gillis. Bieksa would get 5 million as a free agent. Juice was our best D men during the playoffs. The only Canucks d-men that plays physical, takes care of his defensive duties, scores goals, and fights. A d-man with a mean streak. Ehrhoff is an offensive d-man, a canoe that is a soft European. He backed up his words when he said he would take a hometown discount to play for the Canucks. 4.6 million US vs. 5 million. Shea Weber would be my pick as a D men to sign. However, he's too expensive for the team payroll. I'm just hoping that the Stanley Cup run gives Juice the extra drive to keep up his level play of pay. We got a good D-man in Bieksa. Go Juice!!!

[DanHibiki]

Salo getting injured last year was the best thing to happen to Bieksa.

[Ronin]

STOP with the Weber talk. HE WILL NOT SIGN WITH THE CANUCKS.

He is an RFA...any offer the Canucks can table will be matched and would probably be considered a fucking good deal considering how much we could possibly offer under the salary cap. In the event that we offer him $15m a season or something stupid (I don't even think the rules allow that much), we'd have to give the Preds our next FOUR first round draft picks.

...which, in case you haven't figured it out, WOULD BE STUPID.

Buffalo matched on Thomas fucking Vanek at $7m and he isn't the kind of superstar Weber is. I enjoy armchair GMing with the rest of you but c'mon...keep it within the fucking realm of possibility...

[UFO]

Salo getting injured last year was the best thing to happen to Bieksa.

Should FYP to: Hamhuis getting signed last off season was the best thing to happen to Bieksa.

Hope Juice is buying rounds for Hammer all next season thanks to this fat raise.

For the record, and I'm not a Bieksa hater, but I don't think Bieksa is a $5M d-man on his own though I'm sure many teams would have been willing to throw him $5M/yr. It shows when he can't play at the same level without Hamhuis, nor can he bring up the level of play of his D partner when he plays with other guys. Bieksa brings leadership qualities and other intangibles that I'm a huge fan of, but his game intensity and general non-challantness on the ice many times is something that needs work and is something I'd expect a $5M d-man to have figured out.

[UFO]

STOP with the Weber talk. HE WILL NOT SIGN WITH THE CANUCKS.

He is an RFA...any offer the Canucks can table will be matched and would probably be considered a fucking good deal considering how much we could possibly offer under the salary cap. In the event that we offer him $15m a season or something stupid (I don't even think the rules allow that much), we'd have to give the Preds our next FOUR first round draft picks.

...which, in case you haven't figured it out, WOULD BE STUPID.

I enjoy armchair GMing with the rest of you but c'mon...keep it within the fucking realm of possibility...

No team is giving Weber ANY offers, Pred's have filed for arbitration which will let them keep him for up to the next 2 years when he is UFA eligible. If they can't sign him to a longterm deal before July 20, then he will sign a 1 or 2 year deal through an arbitrator. Either way, his becoming an RFA is irrelevant.

And throwing offer sheets out there is not as stupid as it sounds; Bobby Clarke offered Kesler 4 yrs at $1.9M. If it's as stupid as you are claiming it is, Burkey could have let Kes go and collected the 4 first rounders. And as we can now see, the $1.9M Kesler was making at the end of the contract term was a ridiculous deal. MG himself offered up the compensation when he signed David Backes to an offer sheet a few years back.

So if you COULD snap up somebody of Weber's stature for 4 potential prospects who may never materialize, it's not really that stupid. But the reality with Weber and Parise right now is that their teams have their assets protected for at least the next season.

[Expresso]

Bieksa did come off 2 leg lacerations in which he missed significant time so I don't think the previous couple of years are a good indication.

[Sentinel]

Ideally I would love to see hodgson in the line up. But lines 1-3 already have their respectively centers already. Unless he plays on the rw or 3rd line center with manny on his lw as a mentor. Then I don't know where else hodgson can go.

If not maybe trade him off. We've never had a legit powerforward. Pyatt didn't work, neither did bernier. I've always liked the idea of trading for evander kane, but chances of that is rare. Unless we do a hodgson + 1st rd pick.
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[spideyv2]

STOP with the Weber talk. HE WILL NOT SIGN WITH THE CANUCKS.

He is an RFA...any offer the Canucks can table will be matched and would probably be considered a fucking good deal considering how much we could possibly offer under the salary cap. In the event that we offer him $15m a season or something stupid (I don't even think the rules allow that much), we'd have to give the Preds our next FOUR first round draft picks.

...which, in case you haven't figured it out, WOULD BE STUPID.

Buffalo matched on Thomas fucking Vanek at $7m and he isn't the kind of superstar Weber is. I enjoy armchair GMing with the rest of you but c'mon...keep it within the fucking realm of possibility...

Thank you.

All this Weber coming to the Canucks is as stupid as all those proposal threads on CDC. Weber is not coming to Vancouver, so just stfu about it

[DanHibiki]

Should FYP to: Hamhuis getting signed last off season was the best thing to happen to Bieksa.

Hope Juice is buying rounds for Hammer all next season thanks to this fat raise.

For the record, and I'm not a Bieksa hater, but I don't think Bieksa is a $5M d-man on his own though I'm sure many teams would have been willing to throw him $5M/yr. It shows when he can't play at the same level without Hamhuis, nor can he bring up the level of play of his D partner when he plays with other guys. Bieksa brings leadership qualities and other intangibles that I'm a huge fan of, but his game intensity and general non-challantness on the ice many times is something that needs work and is something I'd expect a $5M d-man to have figured out.

But signing Hamhuis was also the reason why he wasn't gonna be a Canuck no more.

[jeedee]

And throwing offer sheets out there is not as stupid as it sounds; Bobby Clarke offered Kesler 4 yrs at $1.9M. If it's as stupid as you are claiming it is, Burkey could have let Kes go and collected the 4 first rounders. And as we can now see, the $1.9M Kesler was making at the end of the contract term was a ridiculous deal. MG himself offered up the compensation when he signed David Backes to an offer sheet a few years back.

Clarke didn't offer Kesler at 4 yrs at 1.9M...the offer sheet was 1 yr at 1.9M. That's equivalent to 1 first rounder at most.

[UFO]

Hamhuis can make Ballard worth the $4.2M he is signed to, and I say this with full confidence. Imagine the hips that a Hamhuis/Ballard combo would be throwing down!

FWIW, I remember reading about a MG/Bieksa meeting they had last off season when Bieksa asked MG straight up whether he wanted him on the team or not still, and MG made it clear to Bieksa that he wasn't going anywhere. As I recall this was before Salo hurt himself, and after Hamhuis was signed, so I have faith MG would have made it work one way or another.

Maybe he conspired to have Salo rupture his Achilles somehow... the way our d-men were getting injured just as another was ready to come back in and play last season, you couldn't script it any better than that.

[jeedee]

Maybe he conspired to have Salo rupture his Achilles somehow... the way our d-men were getting injured just as another was ready to come back in and play last season, you couldn't script it any better than that.

...This isn't a hollywood movie. Injuries are real :lol

No wonder your username is UFO..you just love to believe and make up conspiracies huh? :troll:

[BlackZRoadster]

^ dont you mean all the clipping :troll:

[MR_BIGGS]

TSNBobMcKenzie

Bieksa deal: Year 1: $2.5M sal/$4.5M sb. Year 2: $1M sal/$3.5M sb. Year 3: $4M sal/$1M sb. Year 4: $3M sal/$1M sb. Year 5: $2.5M sal.

[UFO]

Clarke didn't offer Kesler at 4 yrs at 1.9M...the offer sheet was 1 yr at 1.9M. That's equivalent to 1 first rounder at most.

My bad, got his deal mixed up with Ohlund's offersheet... I think. It was a long time ago. Had Philly signed Kes, Canucks would have gotten back a 2nd round pick for compensation. Kes then resigned 3 yrs at $5.25M for the term.

[UFO]

...This isn't a hollywood movie. Injuries are real.

You probably missed the e-sarc...

With all the injuries on our back end, timing of guys going out and guys coming in, how it helped our cap situation at the beginning of the season and prior to the trade deadline, you can't see all of this and say that there wasn't a lot of good luck and coincidences going on. Hey, maybe we used up all of our puck luck during the season which led us to catching zero bounces in the finals.

No conspiracies, but I believe MG to be a sneaky little weasel when it comes to technicalities and exploiting the CBA rules, for the better of course. With his background, I have no doubt he'll milk out whatever he can.

[spideyv2]

TSNBobMcKenzie

Bieksa deal: Year 1: $2.5M sal/$4.5M sb. Year 2: $1M sal/$3.5M sb. Year 3: $4M sal/$1M sb. Year 4: $3M sal/$1M sb. Year 5: $2.5M sal.

I'm an idiot, so what exactly do all those numbers mean? I know 4.6 is the caphit, but all that 2.5/4.5 1/3.5 shit confuses me

[MR_BIGGS]

I personally think Salo could have come back way earlier than Gillis had us believe. The timing of him coming back was so coincidental to another one of our dmen going out.

With them so close to the cap, you know Gillis was up to something.

The only way Ballard gets unloaded, is if a team that is just trying to make the basement salary cap takes on his contract. I don't see this happening. Do people actually think the Canucks could get a top 6 dmen for him?

I personally think he'll be a top 4 dman next season.

[MR_BIGGS]

I'm an idiot, so what exactly do all those numbers mean? I know 4.6 is the caphit, but all that 2.5/4.5 1/3.5 shit confuses me

LOL...i dunno either :S I just copy n pasted what Mackenzie had on his twitter...lol

[jeedee]

I'm an idiot, so what exactly do all those numbers mean? I know 4.6 is the caphit, but all that 2.5/4.5 1/3.5 shit confuses me

TSNBobMcKenzie

Bieksa deal: Year 1: $2.5M sal/$4.5M sb. Year 2: $1M sal/$3.5M sb. Year 3: $4M sal/$1M sb. Year 4: $3M sal/$1M sb. Year 5: $2.5M sal.

SB=Salary Bonus

[sonick]

I'm an idiot, so what exactly do all those numbers mean? I know 4.6 is the caphit, but all that 2.5/4.5 1/3.5 shit confuses me

What he gets paid in cash vs. what his cap hit is is different.

e.g. If somebody signed 2 years, for 10mil, first year he gets 9mil second year he gets paid 1mil, the cap hit is still 5mil.

I think SB he is referring to is signing bonus.

[UFO]

SB is signing bonus? I'm pretty sure the salary AND signing bonus both count on the cap hit. The CBA expiring soon may be why he's only making $1M in year 2 with a 3.5M signing bonus, if the league forces players to take a % salary paycut like they did with the last CBA but the SB doesn't get affected, this structure ensures that Bieksa will still get the majority of his $.

[MR_BIGGS]

Hawks trade Tomas Kopecky to Panthers for 7th rd pick in 2012 or 2013.

Damn they have a lot of cap space to play with. I wonder who lands Richards...the guy wants long term at 7 mill per...

[spideyv2]

TSNBobMcKenzie

Bieksa deal: Year 1: $2.5M sal/$4.5M sb. Year 2: $1M sal/$3.5M sb. Year 3: $4M sal/$1M sb. Year 4: $3M sal/$1M sb. Year 5: $2.5M sal.

SB=Salary Bonus

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[RacingMetro92]

The only way Ballard gets unloaded, is if a team that is just trying to make the basement salary cap takes on his contract.



Florida has over 22 million to play with before they even reach the cap floor.:troll:

But in all seriousness, his chances of getting top 4 minutes are pretty slim unless he shows AV that he deserves it, clearly there's something up between those two, and the team is stuck with a $4.2 million benchwarmer.

[jeedee]

:grin-FU: you asked for it jayare :troll:

[spideyv2]

:fullofwin:

[MR_BIGGS]

From Puck Daddy


The Hall of Fame Pool

Dave Andreychuk, LW

He's 13th all-time in goals with 640 and fifth in games played, playing a vital role in the Tampa Bay Lightning's 2004 Stanley Cup championship. He's the best power-play goal scorer in NHL history with 274, better than Brett Hull or Mario Lemieux. As with others on this list, he name means something: He's the immovable object with great hands in front of the net, a connoisseur of garbage goals and a consummate professional.

Ed Belfour, G

The only first-year eligible player with a prayer of making the cut. Two Vezina Trophies, four Jennings Trophies, the Calder for rookie of the year and a Stanley Cup championship to his credit. He's third in wins for his career (484) and fourth in career saves (22,434). The knocks on Eddie are that he wasn't as dominant a goalie as some of his peers, posting a career .906 save percentage despite playing during the trap years; and his off-the-ice troubles may have him Ciccarelli'd out of a first-year induction.

Pavel Bure, RW

Bure has 437 goals in 702 games, placing him sixth all-time (0.623) in the NHL. Of the rest of the top 10, only Alex Ovechkin(notes) and Tim Kerr aren't in the Hall of Fame. He has 779 points in 702 games, a points-per-game average that ranks him 24th all-time. He won the Calder and two Richard Trophies, leading the League in goals three times.

The case for Bure as a Hall of Fame player has been made again and again and again and again. The reasons are simple: He has the numbers, despite not having a Hart or a Stanley Cup; and his name means something to a generation of fans and peers. To be compared to Pavel Bure today is to be compared to an offensive star of unparalleled speed and goal-scoring ability. He was a once in a generation player; will he be counted among the immortals?

Guy Carbonneau, C

If membership in the Hockey Hall of Fame was ever dedicated to being the best player at your position during a given era, then Carbonneau would warrant serious consideration. He won three Selke Trophies and three Stanley Cups, ranking 14th all-time in shorthanded goals (32). He was one of the best shutdown centers of all-time, and scored 663 points along with it.

Doug Gilmour, C

"Killer" was thought by many to be tabbed for the Hall in 2010, but as snubbed. He has 450 goals, 1,414 points, one Stanley Cup and a Selke Trophy, as well as some other impressive intangibles from Joe Pelletier:

Gilmour has reputation as a hockey warrior. He was an imperative piece of the 1989 Stanley Cup championship in Calgary. He willed Toronto to two consecutive final four appearances in the 1990s, not to mention two more in St. Louis a few years before that. He is seventh all time in Stanley Cup playoffs scoring, 5th in terms of assists. His points per game production actually increased in the playoffs. The only other of the NHL's top 50 all time to also be able to make that claim is Mark Messier. So there can be no doubting Gilmour's big game presence.

Pelletier joked last year that he was surprised Gilmour wasn't already in the Hall given its Toronto-centric focus. Perhaps that will be remedied this year.

Eric Lindros, C

Yup, time to fire up this debate for another year.

The case for Lindros isn't necessarily stats-based, although he's 18th all-time with a points per game average of 1.14. It isn't awards-based, despite having both a Hart and a Pearson in the truncated 1994-95 season. It's impact-based: Lindros was one of the dominant, game-changing forces in the NHL during his time with the Philadelphia Flyers in the dead puck era, before concussions cost him his career.

There are great arguments for and against his inclusion in the Hall. But the only arguments that matter are the ones that will occur, again, amongst the selection committee.

Joe Nieuwendyk, C

He's 21st in goals scored with 564 and 11th in power-play goals at 215. He won the Calder in 1988 and the King Clancy in 1995. But the case for Nieuwendyk is based on the prestige: Three Stanley Cups with three different teams, and a Conn Smythe Trophy in 1999 with the Dallas Stars for 21 points in 23 games and six game-winning goals. Never the most dominant NHL player; just one of the most clutch and well-respected ones.

Adam Oates, C

What if we told you a player had 1,420 career points, placing him 16th all-time behind 12 Hall of Famers, two sure-things (Sakic, Jagr) and one probable (Mark Recchi(notes))? What if this player led the League in assists three times, and ranks sixth all-time with 1,079 helpers — surrounded by nine Hall of Fame players in the Top 10?

Sure-fire Hall of Famer?

OK, but what if this player never one a major NHL award or championship? What if his only claim to postseason fame is a second-team NHL All-Star Team appearance in 1991? What if his greatest claim to fame is as the co-star to a legendary sniper named Brett Hull?

[spideyv2]

Going by hockeysfuture.com rankings, would you consider Pavel Bure a 10(generational talent, ie gretzky, lemieux, orr etc) or a 9(elite player, ie sakic, roenick, lidstrom etc)

[sonick]

9

[Gt-R R34]

BURE: neither.

8. roenick.

[skippynixx]

Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts

I agree, Players may work a little harder if they know they can be shipped out at anytime.

[7seven]

Lapierre resigned. 2 years for $2mil, cap hit of $1mil per. Great value

[spideyv2]

Lapierre signs!

HockeyyInsiderr Hockeyy Insiderr
Max Lapierre signs 2 year extension with #Canucks worth $1m per year.
renhockey Renaud P Lavoie
Maxim Lapierre #canucks 2 ans (years) / 2 millions total.

edit - lol beat to it

[jeedee]

:fuckyea: latrollpierre stays. Love that signing, what a steal!

[CPE]

Definitely an upgrade for the fourth line center.