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The Official 2011/2012 Canucks Thread
Ikkaku
06-21-2011, 08:15 PM
they should use Couture's picture to replace the current/old "Internet. Serious business." meme
tonyzoomzoom
06-21-2011, 08:15 PM
the best goalie of all time is not really relevant. The best goalie at the right time is what's important ;)
spoon.ek9
06-21-2011, 08:25 PM
;7485372']jarome looks like he's from the jackson5
and guess who this is! haha
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj1ln9pT7l1qib4uqo1_400.jpg
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj73wdTz7e1qib4uqo1_400.jpg
couture looks like he's ready to fuck someone up
willie mitchell! i still miss having him on our team
Tapioca
06-21-2011, 08:54 PM
The Canucks had a great run this year, but only those who were old enough to remember the run in '94 can understand and appreciate how good that team was. The regular season wasn't an indicator of how much heart and ability to pull through in the clutch that team had. Trevor Linden played with bruised ribs and he still scored 2 goals in Game 7.
Team 1040 interviewed Sergio Momesso a couple of weeks ago and he was still upset at how Gregson called several penalties on the Canucks in the first 2 periods. The Rangers scored 2 power play goals that game which were the difference. Compare that with how Game 7 this year was officiated.
After this year's run, I can still proudly claim that the '94 team was the better team. They will remain so until the Canucks win the Cup.
The Canucks had a great run this year, but only those who were old enough to remember the run in '94 can understand and appreciate how good that team was. The regular season wasn't an indicator of how much heart and ability to pull through in the clutch that team had.
Team 1040 interviewed Sergio Momesso a couple of weeks ago and he was still upset at how Gregson called several penalties on the Canucks in the first 2 periods. The Rangers scored 2 power play goals that game which were the difference. Compare that with how Game 7 this year was officiated.
After this year's run, I can still proudly claim that the '94 team was the better team. They will remain so until the Canucks win the Cup.
The best thing about the Canucks team from '94 was the fact that they weren't the most talented team but the team with the most heart & determination. Linden pushing himself to the max during the last 2 games was just beyond epic.
Tapioca
06-21-2011, 09:02 PM
The best thing about the Canucks team from '94 was the fact that they weren't the most talented team but the team with the most heart & determination. Linden pushing himself to the max during the last 2 games was just beyond epic.
It's really too bad that most Canucks fans here only saw Linden play in the twilight of his career. In the early 1990s, he was awesome: he could skate like the wind, he could hit, and he always showed up in the playoffs.
That 1994 team was actually very talented, but the Rangers were simply stacked: Messier, Graves, Leetch, a young Kovalev, Zubov, Richter, Lowe, and the list goes on. And they were coached by one of the biggest SOBs of all time whose old school tactics worked. We came within a goal post of tying the game. This year's Canucks played Game 7 like they knew they were going to lose.
Vale46Rossi
06-21-2011, 09:05 PM
I just saw a re-run of How i met your mother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBEkoNqwQk
:D anyone remember this?
SkinnyPupp
06-21-2011, 09:07 PM
The Canucks had a great run this year, but only those who were old enough to remember the run in '94 can understand and appreciate how good that team was. The regular season wasn't an indicator of how much heart and ability to pull through in the clutch that team had. Trevor Linden played with bruised ribs and he still scored 2 goals in Game 7.
Team 1040 interviewed Sergio Momesso a couple of weeks ago and he was still upset at how Gregson called several penalties on the Canucks in the first 2 periods. The Rangers scored 2 power play goals that game which were the difference. Compare that with how Game 7 this year was officiated.
After this year's run, I can still proudly claim that the '94 team was the better team. They will remain so until the Canucks win the Cup.
Ironically, if 94's game 7 was played today, there would be about 2000 penalties :lol
MR_BIGGS
06-21-2011, 09:24 PM
From Elliot Friedman's blog:
Considering the level of disappointment the Vancouver organization had with the refereeing in the Stanley Cup Final, the Sedins showed an unbelievable amount of class by skating over to the officials after the handshakes and thanking them. According to one source, their comments were along the lines of, "We know that a lot gets said. This is an emotional time and you shouldn't take all of it personally." And, if anyone thinks that makes them soft, the two Flyers who did the same thing last year were Mike Richards and Chris Pronger.
Forget the contract. Roberto Luongo and the Vancouver Canucks should take a deep breath, wait a little while until the emotion dies down, then seriously and honestly chat about the future. Doubt he'd have complaints about the organization, but it says a lot about his stature in the city that the Canucks scored just eight goals in seven games and Luongo is receiving the most blame. My guess: He loves his teammates, but can't stand the fan base. Is that enough for him to want to stay?
minoru_tanaka
06-21-2011, 09:28 PM
The best thing about the Canucks team from '94 was the fact that they weren't the most talented team but the team with the most heart & determination. Linden pushing himself to the max during the last 2 games was just beyond epic.
That's what's missing from the 2011 team, grit, heart and determination. Kesler would make a better captain (though Mike Richards has shown to have been the better pick). Henrik has got to be the most passive captain I've ever seen. Even Gretzky had fought at least a couple of times. I guess we could put Rypien in there to protect them but I don't know if you can protect anyone anymore. They need a big bully on that line. In 94 canucks were big and mean. Odjick player with Bure and nobody complained that he wasn't putting up points.
hypediss
06-21-2011, 09:29 PM
nhl awards tmr?
imma tune that out for sure
AzNightmare
06-21-2011, 09:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgrFCIJPvo
Note he stays on his feet
Thanks! :thumbsup:
For the longest time, I've been trying to find videos of McLean (or any standup goalie from the past).
I've always wanted to see how they make those saves without relying on the butterfly.
I agree that it is all mental with him, now is keepin him in the net for 8 goals healthy? regardless on how much he wants to play?
Another example where AV failed.
I'd rather see Roberto sitting on the bench mad then be left in and have another team get in his head.
People can debate whether it was right or wrong for AV to actually let Luongo decide for himself.
But remember, AV asked him when it was 5-0. And all was "good" until the last 2 minutes and 30 seconds of the game.
And then 3 goals went in within that span of time. Was there really a point for AV to put in Schneider with less than 2:30 left in the game??
After it was 6-1, I assume AV didn't think Canucks would still let in 2 more after that with so little time left.
In a sense, AV didn't really leave Luongo in there for 8 goals. Technically, it was really only 5... maybe 6 goals, depending on how you look at it.
SkinnyPupp
06-21-2011, 09:49 PM
Thanks! :thumbsup:
For the longest time, I've been trying to find videos of McLean (or any standup goalie from the past).
I've always wanted to see how they make those saves without relying on the butterfly.
Except for the occasional spectacular glove save or pad stack, they didn't ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUiIsZOLXPA
Here is some good one on one footage from 1980 against Mike Palmateer (the Tim Thomas of the 80's ;))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_RsuT8ZmsQ
Bonjour43MA
06-21-2011, 09:51 PM
LIKE A BOSS
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj1m4v0bVs1qib4uqo1_500.jpg
lol Burrows.
Gh0stRider
06-21-2011, 09:58 PM
he still looks the same
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljaxc9aDsJ1qib4uqo1_500.jpg
before he got fat
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkndjhUUZH1qib4uqo1_500.jpg
lol
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj510iln1A1qib4uqo1_400.jpg
Bonjour43MA
06-21-2011, 09:59 PM
It's amazing how some of them look pretty much the same now as they were when they were kids... LOL
hypediss
06-21-2011, 10:11 PM
iginla rofl
AzNightmare
06-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Except for the occasional spectacular glove save or pad stack, they didn't ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUiIsZOLXPA
Here is some good one on one footage from 1980 against Mike Palmateer (the Tim Thomas of the 80's ;))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_RsuT8ZmsQ
Guarantee at 0:28, Thomas wouldn't have given up on that play, and would
have made a ridiculous diving stick save. :lol
Pretty funny when Palmateer tries to stay balanced on his feet on some saves, but ends up hopping and flopping over after.
minoru_tanaka
06-21-2011, 10:12 PM
Thanks! :thumbsup:
For the longest time, I've been trying to find videos of McLean (or any standup goalie from the past).
I've always wanted to see how they make those saves without relying on the butterfly.
And here's how you protected your goalie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLIDCLKfTq8&feature=related
The videos on the last two pages are pretty much a summary of why Bettman gets booed in everywhere he goes.
quasi
06-21-2011, 10:16 PM
So far I say yes by far. More heart, more clutch. If you compare their to runs to the finals well McLean didn't get embarrassed like Luongo. But I guess you can say that for the whole team. In 94 the nucks fought. They finished teams
off. If I counted right,
chance to eliminate other team 94 team 3 - 1 , 2011 team 4 - 7
facing elimination 94 team 5 - 1 , 2011 team 0 - 1
94 the canucks forced game 7 from being down 3 - 1, twice.
2011 the hawks forced game 7 from being down 3 - 1
Goals, Henrik = 3, Daniel = 9, Kesler = 7 for a total of 19
Bure had 16 himself and he scored that Game 7 2OT goal
Linden scored 12 and our only 2 goals in Game 7 of the finals. I think the kids these days would say he "lead the team like a boss". Kirk stopped 54 shots against the Rangers in game 1, stopped the Flames for 3 OTs in a row.
Maybe cause I was a kid when I watch all this but he's on youtube. here's one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgrFCIJPvo
Note he stays on his feet
I wished that team won. McLean was heroic. The team was heroic.
Ya they were great at comebacks but to be fair this years team was never behind in a series, not once. At the end of the day the result was the same, a loss in game 7 of the SCF. Bures speed and Trevors heart were something to watch though.
Iceman_2K
06-21-2011, 10:21 PM
Different time, different style, different kind of goalie. In the 94 year, McLean was in line for the Vezina with Patrick Roy. He was also in line for the Conn Smythe had Vancouver won the cup. He was the best of the stand up style goalies and was always even keel, always. I don't think I've ever seen him get shaken or rattled, even when losing.
I noticed McLean wasn't thrown in that mix.
I was still new to hockey back in the day, so I'm not 100% sure about McLean's play.
But besides the one season he came 1 game away from winning the cup, was he really the elite goalie everyone in vancouver talks about,
or is that hype?
I just looked up his stats on wiki... seemed like he was a pretty good goalie in the early 90s (before I started watching hockey)
So just asking, Kirk McLean better than Luongo all time?
minoru_tanaka
06-21-2011, 10:41 PM
Ya they were great at comebacks but to be fair this years team was never behind in a series, not once. At the end of the day the result was the same, a loss in game 7 of the SCF. Bures speed and Trevors heart were something to watch though.
That;s what irks me the most. They could have walked through to the cup. Instead, round 1, an almost sweep turned into 3 games of shame until barely squeeking by in game 7. Then in the finals they got rocked in every road game. They couldn't score a goal couldnt stop one. Canucks also had home ice in every series. In 94 the exact opposite. It was like once they had the hawks down 3 - 0 they were shocked that they still needed to win more games.
Anyways this team should be back next year hopefully. And hope no one is banging Luongo's wife
AzNightmare
06-21-2011, 11:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_RsuT8ZmsQ
WTF?
I just realized the ending got cut off. OMG, does he save the last shot or not?!!
:fuuuuu:
FerrariEnzo
06-21-2011, 11:28 PM
We're not on his wishlist.
And it seems like he's leaning towards signing with Pittsburgh, if the Pens want him that is.
i know we are not.. but it would be awesome... plus i dont think we have the cap big enough for him..
hes always like Pittsburgh.. im guessing Lemieux will convenience Jagr to go pittsburgh..
hypediss
06-21-2011, 11:49 PM
i read a few things about jagr being a locker room cancer so i wouldnt mind him NOT being here at all...
we have a tight and close group - we should keep it that way
shawn79
06-22-2011, 01:37 AM
the shots back then seem slower compare to ones in today's game which are fast like laser beam
Osaka
06-22-2011, 02:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ilbILOgpj0&feature=BFa&list=WL121E919559FE754E&index=16
SkinnyPupp
06-22-2011, 02:46 AM
WTF?
I just realized the ending got cut off. OMG, does he save the last shot or not?!!
:fuuuuu:
I know right! They built it up so well too! That's one of the better 5 minute sports clips you'll see, and it was ruined. Fucken youtube.
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)
SkinnyPupp
06-22-2011, 03:26 AM
Man since posting those vids, I have been hooked on watching old hockey footage from the 70's and 80's. I came across this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-RsCeI2Wos#t=72s
Andre Dupont does the LAPPY DANCE~!
Ronin
06-22-2011, 07:49 AM
How awkward would it be if Luongo upsets Thomas for the Vezina? :troll:
krazynuck
06-22-2011, 07:51 AM
How awkward would it be if Luongo upsets Thomas for the Vezina? :troll:
it would be epic!
i still believe Thomas will have a crappy season next year
Gumby
06-22-2011, 08:41 AM
The voting for these awards is done before the playoffs, right?
7seven
06-22-2011, 08:42 AM
The voting for these awards is done before the playoffs, right?
Yup
krazynuck
06-22-2011, 09:27 AM
Although this is technically last year....Predictions for tonight guys and girls?
Here are the categories
PLAYER AWARDS
ART ROSS TROPHY - Top Point Scorer
Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks - 104 points
MAURICE "ROCKET" RICHARD TROPHY - Top Goal Scorer
Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks - 50 goals
WILLIAM M. JENNINGS TROPHY - Fewest Goals Allowed
Roberto Luongo & Cory Schneider, Vancouver Canucks - 185 goals allowed
VEZINA TROPHY - Top Goaltender
Roberto Luongo, Vancouver Canucks
Pekka Rinne, Nashville Predators
Tim Thomas, Boston Bruins
FRANK J. SELKE TROPHY - Top Defensive Forward
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
Ryan Kesler, Vancouver Canucks
Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks
LADY BYNG MEMORIAL TROPHY - Skill/Sportsmanship
Loui Eriksson, Dallas Stars
Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings
Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning
CALDER MEMORIAL TROPHY - Top Rookie
Logan Couture, San Jose Sharks
Michael Grabner, New York Islanders
Jeff Skinner, Carolina Hurricanes
JAMES NORRIS MEMORIAL TROPHY - Top Defenseman
Zdeno Chara, Boston Bruins
Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings
Shea Weber, Nashville Predators
BILL MASTERTON MEMORIAL TROPHY - Perseverance & Dedication to Hockey
Ray Emery, Anaheim Ducks
Daymond Langkow, Calgary Flames
Ian Laperriere, Philadelphia Flyers
NHL FOUNDATION PLAYER AWARD - Contributions to Charitable Causes
Dustin Brown, Los Angeles Kings
Mike Green, Washington Capitals
Daniel & Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
JACK ADAMS AWARD - Top Head Coach
Dan Bylsma, Pittsburgh Penguins
Barry Trotz, Nashville Predators
Alain Vigneault, Vancouver Canucks
HART MEMORIAL TROPHY - League MVP
Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks
Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning
TED LINDSAY AWARD (Formerly Lester B. Pearson Award) - MVP Voted by the NHLPA
Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks
Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning
GENERAL MANAGER OF THE YEAR AWARD - Top General Manager
Mike Gillis, Vancouver Canucks
David Poile, Nashville Predators
Steve Yzerman, Tampa Bay Lightning
MARK MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD - Top Leader in Hockey
Zdeno Chara, Boston Bruins
Shane Doan, Phoenix Coyotes
Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings
KING CLANCY TROPHY - Humanitarian Contribution to Hockey
TBD
*Underline choices are my picks....the GM could go either to Yzerman or Gillis IMO
LSF22
06-22-2011, 09:39 AM
^ mostly agree with u except
Masterton - Emery
Messier award - Lidstrom
Durrann
06-22-2011, 09:40 AM
cant believe it was one week ago..that there was a game 7 here....
felt like it was months ago eh?
b0unce. [?]
06-22-2011, 09:46 AM
I was never too clear with the Jack Adams award. Does it go to the coach who's improved the team the most? Coach who has the most wins?
hypediss
06-22-2011, 09:52 AM
really dont think datsyuk will take it this year
maybe if he was healthy for the full season - but kesler was simply amazing this year
krazynuck
06-22-2011, 09:56 AM
;7485981']I was never too clear with the Jack Adams award. Does it go to the coach who's improved the team the most? Coach who has the most wins?
I would guess it would be the coach who used their resources the best
does not have to be an improvement or the most wins....but someone who had maybe a lot of injuries to deal with or a team that had many new players and still did well
LSF22
06-22-2011, 09:56 AM
PLAYER AWARDS
FRANK J. SELKE TROPHY - Top Defensive Forward
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
Ryan Kesler, Vancouver Canucks
Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks
totally missed that... agreed that its keslers award to lose
“I hope he enjoys the Vezina because he’s probably going to win it,” said Luongo, one of four Canucks up for individual awards Wednesday night.
lidstrom for norris and messier trophy. skinner calder, thomas vezina, kesler selke, coach v jack adams, yzerman gm award
Durrann
06-22-2011, 10:10 AM
“I hope he enjoys the Vezina because he’s probably going to win it,” said Luongo, one of four Canucks up for individual awards Wednesday night.
luongo sounds so bitter,
Hart - Daniel
Vezina - Thomas
Selke - Kesler
Byng - St.Louis
Calder - Skinner
Norris - Weber
Masterton - Emery
Foundation Player - Sedins
Jack Adams - AV
Lindsay - Daniel
GM - MG
Messier - Lidstrom
Other than Selke, I'm kind of going for homer picks haha
b0unce. [?]
06-22-2011, 10:56 AM
Just realized thanks/failed got removed...
;7486057']Just realized thanks/failed got removed...
Its because we don't like you....
The reason why they aren't there is because of some updates that are going on. It'll take a few hours to work everything out, they'll be back soon enough.
nosaj
06-22-2011, 01:21 PM
anyone knows whens the awards tonight??
and im guessing its gonna be on tsn?
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 01:22 PM
CBC
4pm
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 01:23 PM
CBC
4pm
8pm*
Ronin
06-22-2011, 01:24 PM
Hart - Perry
Vezina - Thomas
Selke - Kesler
Byng - WHO CARES
Calder - Skinner
Norris - Weber
Masterton - Emery
Foundation Player - Sedins
Jack Adams - Bylsma
Lindsay - Perry
GM - Gillis
Messier - Lidstrom
I think Bylsma wins the Adams, I think. He took a roster with no Crosby and Malkin and Staal most of the year and made the playoffs. Completely changed his coaching style to fit his players...a simple, defensive game that wins. AV has a good shot as anyone would after winning the Presidents.
I'd pick Perry for the Hart. Without him, the Ducks don't make the playoffs. Without Daniel, the Canucks still probably 1st in the NHL.
hotshot1
06-22-2011, 02:20 PM
Hart - Daniel
Selke - Kesler
Vezina - Thomas
Norris - Chara
Calder - Skinner
Jack Adams - Bylsma
I don't think the Canucks still finish first in the league without Daniel.
And I don't think St.Louis will win it because his numbers are worse than Daniel's and I don't think Perry will win it because although the Hart is for the mvp, it usually goes to the players on the best teams.
nosaj
06-22-2011, 02:22 PM
sweet...thanks for the info guys!
RiceIntegraRS
06-22-2011, 02:23 PM
The reason why i think Perry wont win is cause he didnt play that well in the beginning of the year. He went on a monster tear for a month or so near the end.
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 02:35 PM
I think the best argument was the one puckdaddy wrote up when the voting began..i dont wanna go dig it out
Gh0stRider
06-22-2011, 02:44 PM
datsyuk for Selke
DanHibiki
06-22-2011, 02:57 PM
What time does it start?
any update on draft / possible trades? stuck in japan with no tv :fuuuuu:
edit: thought it was today but time change has messed with me
Bonka
06-22-2011, 02:59 PM
8PM on CBC.
fsy82
06-22-2011, 03:05 PM
says 7pm et 4pm pacific but nothing on cbc
P.dub
06-22-2011, 03:14 PM
stream
http://miscmishmosh.yolasite.com/
jeedee
06-22-2011, 03:28 PM
Shaw listings:
5PM pacific on CBC-Ontario [channel 79]
8PM pacific on CBC-channel 3
!YaoShi
06-22-2011, 03:32 PM
congrats kes!!
b0unce. [?]
06-22-2011, 03:34 PM
LOL LIDSTROM ANOTHER NORRIS
Bonka
06-22-2011, 03:36 PM
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=566714&navid=mod-rr-headlines
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:38 PM
fuck, i missed the selke part
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 03:44 PM
luongo sounds so bitter,
Lu said it with a chuckle and the people at the conference laughed.
He really didn't sound all that bitter at all, which was quite surprising when I saw it.
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 03:46 PM
fucking CBC....
argh...guess have to watch at 5
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:47 PM
Jeff Skinner: 'ummmm, ummm'
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:49 PM
lmfao stamkos is one awkward looking person
just watch it off cbcsports.ca
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:49 PM
wtf are the sedins gonna get a shot at the cover?
wtf are the sedins gonna get a shot at the cover?
they were already on it
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 03:51 PM
^ when?
Do they have multiple versions?
The only Sedin covers I saw were photoshopped I think.
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:53 PM
they were already on it
nah man, all the covers i seen with the sedins on it were unofficial photoshopped versions
jeedee
06-22-2011, 03:53 PM
Sedins were on the Swedish version of NHL 11 I believe.
krazynuck
06-22-2011, 03:56 PM
^ you are correct
If you know anyone at EA you could have got one
Expresso
06-22-2011, 03:56 PM
;7486355']LOL LIDSTROM ANOTHER NORRIS
I called it when we were having this conversation in last years thread. The media love to nut hug this guy!
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:56 PM
lol this guy was more nervous than jeff skinner
DA9ve
06-22-2011, 03:57 PM
http://surreystore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/nhl11.pngnah man, all the covers i seen with the sedins on it were unofficial photoshopped versions
jeedee
06-22-2011, 03:58 PM
wooot MG for gm of the year award
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 03:58 PM
David Poille death stare
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:06 PM
nah man, all the covers i seen with the sedins on it were unofficial photoshopped versions
I just did some research on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_series
Apparently, Sedin's were on the cover, but only in the Sweden version.
!YaoShi
06-22-2011, 04:07 PM
Daniel!
punkwax
06-22-2011, 04:09 PM
Did he win the Hart?
!YaoShi
06-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Nope, not yet. Ted Lindsay Award.
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:15 PM
So what's the difference between Ted Lindsay and Hart?
One's voted by the players, and one's voted by the league?
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:17 PM
who the hell is this guy? I only started watching maybe 15 mins ago, and I'm already tired of his stupid jokes.
Did I hear him wrong? Or did he say Luongo and Thomas fighting? (Or did he mean Price??)
clowe
06-22-2011, 04:17 PM
So what's the difference between Ted Lindsay and Hart?
One's voted by the players, and one's voted by the league?
The media I believe
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:19 PM
So what's the difference between Ted Lindsay and Hart?
One's voted by the players, and one's voted by the league?
Lindsay is the players and the Hart is the media who can vote.
A lot of the players say the Lindsay is a bigger award compared to the hart since it's your fellow players who vote and not the reporters.
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 04:27 PM
what a joke
Bobby Ryan's joke was supposedly illegal.
and now its up for goal of the year..WHAT A JOKE
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 04:27 PM
the host fucking sucks, what a fuckhead. His jokes aren't funny at all
Hahahahaha those two broads were absolute shit
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:31 PM
the host fucking sucks, what a fuckhead. His jokes aren't funny at all
Agreed...
Crowd's just silent. and he makes a joke about how the crowd makes him feel like he's rehearsing by himself (or whatever he said. I'm just paraphrasing)
haha13
06-22-2011, 04:32 PM
what the fuck is this host....
Hahahahaha those two broads were absolute shit
their joke was so awkward! you could hear the crowd go silent and mouth off "wtf?!"
to top it off they couldn't even say St. Louis' name correctly right after the announcer said it out :lol
jeedee
06-22-2011, 04:33 PM
LOL when the host was like "i know a guy who knows a guy.."
Reminded me of Bradford Chow
http://i50.tinypic.com/2hhhwf8.gif http://i50.tinypic.com/2hhhwf8.gif http://i50.tinypic.com/2hhhwf8.gif http://i50.tinypic.com/2hhhwf8.gif
hotshot1
06-22-2011, 04:35 PM
Wow that mustache makes Tim Thomas' face look even more punchable
jeedee
06-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Damn..that look on Kes when Chara was talking..
bloodmack
06-22-2011, 04:36 PM
gotta admit, i still cringe when i see the cup not being hoisted by our team.
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:36 PM
wow, who was booing. That's kind of unclassy.
damn, Kesler didn't look too happy.
!YaoShi
06-22-2011, 04:37 PM
that close up on kes stung. :(
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 04:38 PM
Damn..that look on Kes when Chara was talking..
i missed it. someone .gif NAOOOO
wow, who was booing. That's kind of unclassy.
Vancouver fans in attendance.
You can tell there is a huge group of them anytime a Canuck player is mentioned
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:39 PM
their joke was so awkward! you could hear the crowd go silent and mouth off "wtf?!"
to top it off they couldn't even say St. Louis' name correctly right after the announcer said it out :lol
:lol too bad Miroslav Satan wasn't a nominee for something.
Would have been too funny when someone says that wrong.
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:40 PM
Vancouver fans in attendance.
You can tell there is a huge group of them anytime a Canuck player is mentioned
My buddy drove down there in his AMC Eagle to watch it. I can't wait to see the pics.
haha13
06-22-2011, 04:43 PM
gah my ears
:lol too bad Miroslav Satan wasn't a nominee for something.
Would have been too funny when someone says that wrong.
Or Ladislav Smid lol
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:44 PM
OMG
http://webservice.imagesauce.net/image/131882/400x.jpg
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 04:44 PM
Am I the only one who finds the Far East Movement talentless? Almost all their songs contains autotune and The Cataracs write and produce all their music
hotshot1
06-22-2011, 04:45 PM
Yeah this is terrible
:lol too bad Miroslav Satan wasn't a nominee for something.
Would have been too funny when someone says that wrong.
MARTIN SAINT LEWIS!
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:46 PM
WHYZERMAN!
http://i.imgur.com/LMp9N.jpg
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:47 PM
This guy should be the host. he's actually kinda funny
damn, vezina. here we go!!
edit: Bah. Had a slight hope it might have been Lu, but expected Thomas anyway. lol
Who here thinks Luongo should go get off-season surgery too? :troll:
Jon Hamm is such a handsome mofo
/nohomo
;7485122']ummm nashville's defence doesn't make rinne looks better than he is. rinne is legitimately that good.
and imo, lundquist is still top 3 in my books. he's just on a shitty team.
Every great goalie relies on his team's defensive style to excel. If Boston's D don't collapse towards the net and play the rebounds, Thomas sucks. If Vancouver's D don't clog up the middle slot and allows shooters to pick corners, Luongo sucks. From what I've seen of Nashville this year especially, Rinne is solid but of course still has his weaknesses up high.
haha13
06-22-2011, 04:48 PM
gratz timmy
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:50 PM
He deserved it and I'm happy to see he won.
hotshot1
06-22-2011, 04:50 PM
Common' Daniel
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 04:51 PM
i was hoping Pekka Rinne would win the Vezina..
it would shut everyone up
but wasnt gonnna happen
:troll:
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 04:51 PM
Thomas b religious
http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/2/2d/You_Learn_Something_New_Every_Day_Title_Card.jpg
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 04:52 PM
Jon Hamm is such a handsome mofo
/nohomo
lolsergai
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:55 PM
fingers and toes crossed right now!!
rexsomnii
06-22-2011, 04:56 PM
daniel SEDIN :)
edit : WAHHHHTT
haha13
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
WTF @_@@
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
FUCK
!YaoShi
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
BULLSHIT
hotshot1
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUU
jeedee
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
:(
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
damn. Daniel lost it.
Cnguyen
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
FUCKEN FUCK
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 04:57 PM
Perry...
Danny looks pissed
murd0c
06-22-2011, 04:58 PM
WOW what a pathetic speech
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 04:58 PM
NHL, please never get this guy to host EVER again.
Tim Budong
06-22-2011, 05:01 PM
again, many of the more respected national writers voted for daniel
they also wrote articles on why danny>perry
but the majority of dumbass writers would vote for perry becuz he was so hot during the voting period
aside from points, breaking down the two will find u similar numbers
tied for GWG and the style of play
the ONLY BIGGEST DIFFERENCE is that Perry has a horrible +/- where as daniel is great
AzNightmare
06-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Didn't someone say the Ted Lindsay award has more value?
murd0c
06-22-2011, 05:03 PM
Didn't someone say the Ted Lindsay award has more value?
More meaningful since it was voted by the players
hotshot1
06-22-2011, 05:11 PM
But in a historical sense, the Hart is way more important imo
Durrann
06-22-2011, 05:11 PM
Sorry I'm late
What channel
murd0c
06-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Sorry I'm late
What channel
its over. Going to be on cbc at 8 tho
Maybe its b/c I'm still extremely bitter but I didn't care to watch that award show at all. Happy Kes finally got the Selke though.
haha13
06-22-2011, 06:30 PM
yeah kes definitley deserved the selke
nosaj
06-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Kesler definitely deserves the Selke..way to go! :)
Simulated
06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
daniel should have got the hart. the ducks finished 4th and was 4 points from missing the playoffs. daniel helped lead the canucks to a presidents trophy. sigh....
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spoon.ek9
06-22-2011, 06:52 PM
oh well, i'm sure this won't be daniel's last crack at getting the hart. congrats to everyone else in the canucks' organization that won an award tonight!
SkinnyPupp
06-22-2011, 07:56 PM
Kesler's Selke was a blowout
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/d9/d9cf519bf0c382c13187226b50183e8a/how_corey_perry_won_the_hart_and_other_revealing_v ote_totals.jpg
AV came close to winning the Adams
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/c7/c7e99113f06116c944192a88429f4aa0/how_corey_perry_won_the_hart_and_other_revealing_v ote_totals.jpg
Luongo was actually beat by Thomas AND Rinne for the Vezina
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/46/46fea5bd5c2704fc3873280b4c0dc733/how_corey_perry_won_the_hart_and_other_revealing_v ote_totals.jpg
And Danny came close to winning the Hart. Also, Henrik and Kesler were in the top 10 for Hart as well! Even Luongo got a vote from someone (Tony Gallagher? lol)
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/e7/e7792fdeea1a8ba0392183b8263888ea/how_corey_perry_won_the_hart_and_other_revealing_v ote_totals.jpg
Not sure if these images will work. If they don't, go to this blog post (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/How-Corey-Perry-won-the-Hart-and-other-revealing).
DanHibiki
06-22-2011, 08:01 PM
The Bobby Ryan-Ryan Getzlaf skit wasn't as funny as the first one but still passable.
Expresso
06-22-2011, 08:06 PM
lol anyone see that they used Tambellini's face in the GM video presentation!
DanHibiki
06-22-2011, 08:13 PM
lol anyone see that they used Tambellini's face in the GM video presentation!
I heard that on team1040 but missed it during the replay fuuuuuuu
anyone got a clip?
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 08:18 PM
lol anyone see that they used Tambellini's face in the GM video presentation!
Lmfao I seen that. Gillis didn't even look happy after they announced his name cause of that
RiceIntegraRS
06-22-2011, 08:21 PM
i saw that, i was like wtf
DanHibiki
06-22-2011, 08:31 PM
OMG who are the two blondes presenting the lady Byng award?
Major fail!
First they tried to be funny and not even a single chuckle from the crowd.
Then they fail at pronouncing Martin St. Louis' name. lol.
Durrann
06-22-2011, 08:40 PM
Whatching replay
Chara n Thomas bringing out the cup
Anyone see that stare from kesler
Man it hurts
spideyv2
06-22-2011, 08:43 PM
someone put up that clip of kesler's reaction to chara
RiceIntegraRS
06-22-2011, 09:36 PM
So Officially we snagged 7 Pieces of Hardware this season Congrats 2010/11 Vancouver Canucks
Presidents Trophy
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsilver/trophy_presidentslg.jpg
Clarence Campbell Trophy
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsilver/trophy_ccblg.jpg
Art Ross Trophy
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsilver/trophy_artrosslg.jpg
Frank J Selke Trophy
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsilver/trophy_frankjselkelg.jpg
William M Jennings Trophy
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsilver/trophy_jenningslg.jpg
Ted Lindsay Award
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsilver/trophy_tedlindsaylg.jpg
GM of the Year Award
BlackV62K2
06-22-2011, 10:08 PM
^ Next season we'll get the big one!
LsquareD
06-22-2011, 10:14 PM
Trade all those for the Stanley Cup :fullofwin:
Sentinel
06-22-2011, 10:15 PM
We did take a lot this year. But the most important one? Well... we better take that home next year.
jeedee
06-22-2011, 10:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOadLMD8who
TRDood
06-22-2011, 11:01 PM
News1130: Canucks is winning everything, just not the one that counts.
:(
Osaka
06-22-2011, 11:58 PM
Canucks Highlights from the 2011 NHL Awards
General Manager of the Year Award: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaaBkNGnWGE
Art Ross Trophy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aruQ8864qqk
Jennings Trophy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ghx3SuBBy8
Ted Lindsay Award: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edvaIhy8K3E
Selke Trophy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKUcl0WDSCQ
shawn79
06-23-2011, 12:10 AM
datsyuk toews and kesler are amazing players
MR_BIGGS
06-23-2011, 07:08 AM
Those two plastic looking women that presented St Louis an award are from the reality show desperate housewives...i know this because I read it in the puck daddy blog.
SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 07:09 AM
Was one of them Stiffler's Mom? looks like it
7seven
06-23-2011, 07:17 AM
Was one of them Stiffler's Mom? looks like it
Those two plastic looking women that presented St Louis an award are from the reality show desperate housewives...i know this because I read it in the puck daddy blog.
They were there as presenters because the stiflers mom/haggered looking one is a co-owner of the Palms Hotel and Casino, where the NHL awards were held. The other one is just a blonde gold digging tart who married/divorced Kelsey Grammer, so kinda perfect a gold digger would be where the athletes are.
Looks like Claude Noel will be the head coach of the Winnipeg ________ this upcoming season.
SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 08:43 AM
I don't know why they had to fire the current coach.. he actually coached the shitty Atlanta team quite well IMO
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 10:08 AM
I don't know why they had to fire the current coach.. he actually coached the shitty Atlanta team quite well IMO
very true
I think the only reason was that they wanted to show loyalty to all members of true north no matter how effective they were
http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebyseason.htm?team=van
Canucks next season schedule is out. Game opener against Crosby (if he's back :troll:)
dL
7seven
06-23-2011, 10:14 AM
I heard that on team1040 but missed it during the replay fuuuuuuu
anyone got a clip?
http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j463/nitetothemare/GillisNope.jpg
Most agonizing part of the awards show, Far East Movement performing, they are just absolutely brutal.
Toews was on his twitter during the performance tweeting "OMG please stop singing"
Bobby Ryan was on his twitter saying "Really? is this really your demographic????" hahaha
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 10:23 AM
We play Boston Jan 7, 2012
and Winnipeg Mar 8, 2012
Gumby
06-23-2011, 10:30 AM
We play Boston Jan 7, 2012
So, who starts in net for that game in TD Garden? :troll:
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 10:37 AM
So, who starts in net for that game in TD Garden? :troll:
Luuuuuuu and Rask ;)
Thomas will have an off year
the game is also at 10am i just noticed
MR_BIGGS
06-23-2011, 10:46 AM
Yup a matinée game.
I wonder if the Bruins will have the Stanley Cup hangover. I'm sure they'll get their legs going again like the Hawks did.
Also of interest to me is if someone on the Canucks challenges or lays out Marchand. He was asked why he kept punching Sedin repeatedly and he replied "because I felt like it"
Someone on the Canucks had to have read that. Besides, thats mockery of your best player and leading points getting. I hope someone does this to Marchand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rpk0JlVZ4I
Props though to the kid for getting up albeit feeling the effects.
7seven
06-23-2011, 11:23 AM
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
As per @TSNBobMcKenzie. Jeff Carter has been told he's been traded to CBJ.
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Hearing CBJ gives Voracek, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick for Carter.
Carter and Nash together, nice.
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Sources say Robyn Regehr has been asked to waive his no-move clause and accept a trade to the Buffalo Sabres. Details to follow.
As a Sabres fan, Regehr would make the perfect partner for Myers, but kinda nervous if we gave up Luke Adam or Zach Kaissen in return.
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 11:26 AM
Draft busts from the past 20 years
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorhockey/news?slug=ss-twenty-years-of-nhl-draft-busts
lol at Patrik Stefan..BWAHHA
I feel so bad for Carter. Going from contender to pretender
At least Rick Nash has a legitimate line mate now
Gh0stRider
06-23-2011, 11:42 AM
Damn poor guy. Best of luck to carter
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Expresso
06-23-2011, 11:52 AM
I feel so bad for Carter. Going from contender to pretender
At least Rick Nash has a legitimate line mate now
Tell that to Blake Wheeler! :lol
So Carter is stuck in CBJ for 10+ years haha. I guess the Bryzgalov signing is imminent.
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 11:52 AM
u never know..CBJ has been floating around the slightly below average
they never seem to be able to finish the season strong
if they did, they might make the playoffs again
Simulated
06-23-2011, 11:55 AM
lol at daigle's comment. guess this 'number 2' will have to settle for hall of fame.
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krazynuck
06-23-2011, 11:55 AM
good trade for CBJ
I was hoping they would trade richards....to us :D
jeedee
06-23-2011, 12:00 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie
As per @GMillerTSN, PHI talking with LAK about a deal that would send Mike Richards to Kings. Not done yet, but could happen. 2 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Bob McKenzie TSNBobMcKenzie
Unconfirmed reports that Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds would be PHI bound. But not done yet. Could happen. Stay tuned. 3 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Damn...looks like Philly's dumping cap space to sign Bryzgalov
7seven
06-23-2011, 12:01 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
As per @GMillerTSN, PHI talking with LAK about a deal that would send Mike Richards to Kings. Not done yet, but could happen.
GMillerTSN Gord Miller
by DarrenDreger
Mike Richards to LA for a package including Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds? Hearing from good sources that it could happen.
Wow if Philly trades Carter and Richards, I guess those rumors of a lock room rift between Carter/Richards and Pronger might be true. That and the constant partying Carter and Richards do, showing up late for practices.
AzNightmare
06-23-2011, 12:02 PM
Hearing all these deals makes me excited, hoping to hear something with Canucks involved... but the matter of fact is, we don't really need to do much besides small tweaking.
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 12:06 PM
Its already more eventful than trade deadline 2011
HAHA
would have been SICK to get Carter or Richards...
spoon.ek9
06-23-2011, 12:08 PM
wow. richards and carter gone in the same day would be massive.
Hearing all these deals makes me excited, hoping to hear something with Canucks involved... but the matter of fact is, we don't really need to do much besides small tweaking.
I personally think we need another top 6 winger to play with kesler Imo.....
(http://twitter.com/#%21/DarrenDreger)DarrenDreger (http://twitter.com/#%21/DarrenDreger) Darren Dreger
As per TSN's Gord Miller. Done deal. Phi trades Mike Richards to LA for Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds. #TSN (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23TSN)
WHAT THE FUCK is going on in Philly today?! They JUST re-signed for those huge contracts too!!! My mind is seriously full of fuck right now
7seven
06-23-2011, 12:09 PM
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
As per TSN's Gord Miller. Done deal. Phi trades Mike Richards to LA for Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds. #TSN
deal done now
AzNightmare
06-23-2011, 12:10 PM
I personally think we need another top 6 winger to play with kesler Imo.....
I think so too. Not sure who we can give up though...
I think MG's main focus is resigning some guys first.
tsnjamesduthie james duthie
Richards/Carter...supposed to be Phili's foundation for the next decade...gone in a half hour.
47 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Jesus fucking christ!
fobulaus
06-23-2011, 12:15 PM
would have been SICK to get Carter or Richards...
Wouldn't make sense at all. Why would you want a top tier player on the third line.
7seven
06-23-2011, 12:15 PM
Now watch Flyers use the cap room to give Bryz a $7.1 mil per year cap hit, which was rumored a couple days ago. Flyer fans are about to jump off a bridge, Richards was basically their Trevor Linden.
7seven
06-23-2011, 12:16 PM
.Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
Now you know for sure that rumors things weren't right in Flyers dressing room were absolutely true
jeedee
06-23-2011, 12:17 PM
Wouldn't make sense at all. Why would you want a top tier player on the third line.
Uh...it's called putting Richards on the 2nd line, and Kes on the wing?
Or Carter on the wing on the 2nd line with Kes centering
AWDTurboLuvr
06-23-2011, 12:17 PM
JVR and Giroux will finally get all the icetime they can handle. Philly is getting even younger with Schenn and Voracek. They'll have depth but lack experience up front.
What rumors?! I haven't heard anything lulz :alone:
jeedee
06-23-2011, 12:18 PM
JVR and Giroux will finally get all the icetime they can handle. Philly is getting even younger with Schenn and Voracek. They'll have depth but lack experience up front.
With all these trades from Philly, JVR or Giroux traded to play with Kes anyone? :fullofwin:
Wouldn't make sense at all. Why would you want a top tier player on the third line.
never said it would make sense, just saying it would be sick to have them on the team.
btw, SJ had 9(?) C and they managed to do pretty well.
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 12:19 PM
rumors were of
Carter and Richards dun get along due to the fact Carter supposedly fucked Richards Wife/GF...
Richards and pronger apparently dont get along too well
thts what i heard in the past year.
LUUUUUUUU
06-23-2011, 12:21 PM
Mike Richards and Dustin Brown on one line is gonna be scary to play against
Greenstoner
06-23-2011, 12:22 PM
LA could make deep into the playoff this year
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7seven
06-23-2011, 12:24 PM
Columbus and LA just got instantly better. Time to find that top 6 winger for Kes
Gh0stRider
06-23-2011, 12:25 PM
Wow mike richards too? Shiet
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spoon.ek9
06-23-2011, 12:25 PM
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8205/kbmindblown2.gif
Ronin
06-23-2011, 12:27 PM
WOW...Carter and Richards? So they trade their top goal scorer AND their captain on the same day?!
Just to sign Bryzgalov, a goalie that isn't worth $7m and to please Pronger...a guy that might not be in the league in two years...
...and they ditch two young stars that could be the foundation of your team for years and years? Seems like a REALLY stupid deal.
At least they got a good return.
fobulaus
06-23-2011, 12:30 PM
Uh...it's called putting Richards on the 2nd line, and Kes on the wing?
Or Carter on the wing on the 2nd line with Kes centering
Or just sign a legitimate 2nd line winger for half the salary.
7seven
06-23-2011, 12:31 PM
WOW...Carter and Richards? So they trade their top goal scorer AND their captain on the same day?!
Just to sign Bryzgalov, a goalie that isn't worth $7m and to please Pronger...a guy that might not be in the league in two years...
...and they ditch two young stars that could be the foundation of your team for years and years? Seems like a REALLY stupid deal.
At least they got a good return.
I think Vorachek and JVR are going to be great players. Giroux is still young and they still have Hartnell and Briere, if Schenn and the 8th overall pick develop, the Flyers are still going to be solid for the future. I thought Philly was just a goalie away from being serious cup contenders, now not so much.
jeedee
06-23-2011, 12:32 PM
Or just sign a legitimate 2nd line winger for half the salary.
Maybe..but I'd love to have either Richards or Carter playing for us in a heart beat.
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 12:34 PM
Philly was a goalie a way from being serious. thats FACT
what Philly scored today is a lot of pieces to fill out the roster...
DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 12:34 PM
I understand trading away one but why both?!???
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LUUUUUUUU
06-23-2011, 12:36 PM
FriedgeHNIC
Flyers just cleared almost $110 million in salary committments to Richards and Carter. Both had NTCs beginning July 1 2012 less than 10 seconds ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Ronin
06-23-2011, 12:37 PM
I think Vorachek and JVR are going to be great players. Giroux is still young and they still have Hartnell and Briere, if Schenn and the 8th overall pick develop, the Flyers are still going to be solid for the future. I thought Philly was just a goalie away from being serious cup contenders, now not so much.
They're not going to be terrible but they're definitely not as strong. If they are, it will be because Schenn grew quick and stepped in. All those guys are great players but Mike Richards is a top tier guy. He's basically the East Coast Kesler. This trade is like if Kes and Burr hated...well, there's no old guy on our blueline right now I guess but you can see how it would be retarded to trade Kes and Burr.
They've traded two guys you can build a team around but if the locker room rumors are true, I guess this is the only solution because you aren't trading or buying out Pronger. His contract counts as over 35.
Ronin
06-23-2011, 12:38 PM
LOL just saw "Luongo to Flyers for Schenn + Giroux"
Not gonna lie that sounds like a hell of a trade since we have Schneider...but no way that happens.
TSNBobMcKenzie (http://twitter.com/#%21/TSNBobMcKenzie) Bob McKenzie
Bryzgalov contract with PHI is done. 9 years, $51 million.
7seven
06-23-2011, 12:45 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Bryzgalov contract with PHI is done. 9 years, $51 million.
Lucky for Philly they tacked on a couple extra years to bring the cap hit down from the $7mil Bryz wanted
Expresso
06-23-2011, 12:48 PM
They're not going to be terrible but they're definitely not as strong. If they are, it will be because Schenn grew quick and stepped in. All those guys are great players but Mike Richards is a top tier guy. He's basically the East Coast Kesler. This trade is like if Kes and Burr hated...well, there's no old guy on our blueline right now I guess but you can see how it would be retarded to trade Kes and Burr.
They've traded two guys you can build a team around but if the locker room rumors are true, I guess this is the only solution because you aren't trading or buying out Pronger. His contract counts as over 35.
Totally different situation here. Kess and Burr are good team mates and not causing drama in the locker room. How do you build a team around them if they can't gel and if drama is always floating around. Philly needed to fix their team chemistry and they did. Its not like they got bag of pucks in return.
Does Nash finally have a good pivot to play with?
Should really up his fantasy worth
quasi
06-23-2011, 12:56 PM
Wow, Rick Nash finally has someone to play with. Probably the happiest player in the NHL today.
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2011, 12:57 PM
Interesting day.
Eklund is such a tool: "The Kings deal looks like Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds. The Leafs are involved as well."
:facepalm:
Ronin
06-23-2011, 12:59 PM
I make that comparison only in terms of their place on the team. Can't deny that Philly shipped the cornerstones of their franchise that they could've built on for the next 10 years but instead, they made dumbass long term deals with Pronger. If they COULD trade Pronger, you don't think they'd rather do that? Philly screwed themselves here.
$51m over 9? That's a stupid deal for a guy with no playoff track record. There are stories about him taking days off practice, giving up during games when he feels his defense isn't playing well enough, etc. I mean, how is Bryz an upgrade over Vokoun? I bet they could've gotten Vokoun at $4m on July 1st without having to trade for him. Not that many teams in the market for goalie upgrades and Bryz is only 4 years younger.
Expresso
06-23-2011, 12:59 PM
Gotta still look at the overall picture. If team chemistry is not good, then so be it. I don't think they would have let Pronger go. Any team would take Pronger in a heartbeat. I do agree that trading either Richards or Carter would've sufficed and Vokoun could have gave the same performance as Bryz.
Got me thinking, does Philly possibly have enough cap space to make a pitch to Brad Richards?
Ronin
06-23-2011, 12:59 PM
Is Eklund EVER right?
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 01:02 PM
Eklunds sources probably troll him...
HAHAH
becuz u know..if he was legit..he wouldnt go by some shitty name like eklund
7seven
06-23-2011, 01:03 PM
the rumored issues in the Flyers locker room was:
*Carter sleeping with Hartnell's wife
*Pronger and Richards not getting along, divided room as to who the real captain was
*Carter and Richards partying too much instead of dedication to hockey/team
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 01:03 PM
big day for philly....I can't wait to see how other teams react now
Ronin
06-23-2011, 01:04 PM
Gotta still look at the overall picture. If team chemistry is not good, then so be it. I don't think they would have let Pronger go. Any team would take Pronger on their team. I do agree that trading either Richards or Carter would've sufficed and Vokoun could have gave the same performance as Bryz.
Got me thinking, does Philly possibly have enough cap space to make a pitch to Brad Richards?
They have about $7.5m in cap space after Bryzgalov's contract and still need 3 forwards at least. They currently have 9 forwards, and 6 D signed along with 3 goalies. Assuming they ditch Leighton or Bobrovsky's $1.55/$1.75 contract, they'll have $9m to spend. They have 5 RFA forwards that need new contracts.
Brad Richards has to be asking for at least $6m and he'd probably get $8m from the Rangers since they're stupid. Rangers have 11 forwards (assuming all their awesome RFAs get re-signed) and four D (+2 RFA) After the Drury buyout and raises to their RFAs that had career years, Rangers probably still have at least $15m to spend.
jsoni
06-23-2011, 01:05 PM
Wow, Rick Nash finally has someone to play with. Probably the happiest player in the NHL today.
so true, David Vyborny, Freddy Modin and old ass Sergei Fedorov never quite cut it. I'm pumped for CBJ, fav player is Nash and finally he gets some scoring help
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 01:08 PM
Off season plan Philly
Needs: One top nine forward, one defenceman, goaltender, cap room.
source: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=369256
seem to hit some of the issues
LUUUUUUUU
06-23-2011, 01:10 PM
hmm will Robyn Regehr waive his NTC
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2011, 01:12 PM
I don't think Philly wanted to take a risk in not landing a goalie on July 1st. They couldn't go another season with a question mark in goal and figured overpayment was worth it.
AWDTurboLuvr
06-23-2011, 01:19 PM
I don't think Philly wanted to take a risk in not landing a goalie on July 1st. They couldn't go another season with a question mark in goal and figured overpayment was worth it.
Exactly, plus Vokoun, as good as he is, is older and isn't as durable. Bryz is a workhorse and will be excited to be part of a winning organization.
Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 01:20 PM
in terms of eklund reporting the leafs being involved...HAHAHAAHAH
Flyers asked for Kadri and Kulemin from the Leafs for Mike Richards. Toronto said they would consider it, but never heard back from Phi.
LUUUUUUUU
06-23-2011, 01:24 PM
renhockey
Avalanche wants to trade pick 11th in the first round. Talking to Vancouver (for Schneider) and Los Angeles (for Bernier) 8 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Laundry
06-23-2011, 01:25 PM
^ Obviously since Schenn and Simmonds + 2nd are better...
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2011, 01:26 PM
FFS Burke. I would have taken that trade.
LUUUUUUUU
06-23-2011, 01:26 PM
Mark Spector Sports SportsnetSpec
At $10M, Bryzgalov will be NHL's highest paid player in 2011-12. Last I talked to him, after DET sweep, he said: "I am goat." One rich goat. half a minute ago via TweetDeck
Brian Burke is such a fucking moron
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Leafs were also interested in Carter and Kadri was discussed, but Tor wouldn't include Kulemin to close deal for Carter.
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Flyers asked for Kadri and Kulemin from the Leafs for Mike Richards. Toronto said they would consider it, but never heard back from Phi.
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 01:27 PM
renhockey
Avalanche wants to trade pick 11th in the first round. Talking to Vancouver (for Schneider) and Los Angeles (for Bernier) 8 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
thats pointless for us to do....we better not even think to do that
DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 01:29 PM
11th pick isn't high enough
krazynuck
06-23-2011, 01:32 PM
11th pick isn't high enough
2nd and 11th would be about right
hotshot1
06-23-2011, 01:32 PM
I think the Flyers made HFBoards crash.
renhockey
Avalanche wants to trade pick 11th in the first round. Talking to Vancouver (for Schneider) and Los Angeles (for Bernier) 8 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
We would be retarded to only trade for for an 11th for schneids.
I would imagine if schneids is being thrown around, duchene has to be mentioned as well.
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2011, 01:34 PM
lol
JayOnrait Jay Onrait
As of this second, still nothing on ESPN's home page about the Carter or Richards deals or the Bryzgalov signing. Nothing.
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