[highfive]

^True but maybe Gillis is thinking ahead.

Schneider might be traded this offseason.

Tampa? Columbus? Maybe we can get Ryan Johansen or Brett Connolly.

[Mike Oxbig]

We need cody hodgson if we play against rangers in the finals at the same time we need kassian against boston. Since he has the "dont give a fuck" mentality to go after players like marchand. He will intent to injury players too!

[Noir]

We need cody hodgson if we play against rangers in the finals at the same time we need kassian against boston. Since he has the "dont give a fuck" mentality to go after players like marchand. He will intent to injury players too!

Sure, that's if:
1. Kassian makes the line up and
2. AV is an situation (in a game) where he can afford not pushing the top 2 lines out there in an alternating manner.

You have to remember, we traded away guys like Hordichuk or Glass because toughness alone can't guarantee you into the bottom lines, you actually have to be good as well. If Kassi can't put up numbers with little minutes he'll get playing in the bottom 2 lines, he ain't playing in the playoffs to protect anyone.


To me, it seems like he's the bigger gamble than CoHo. At least with CoHo, we know what we're going to get, and it's good. I never really thought we needed toughness. If we wanted someone to fight Marchand or the likes, we had Bieksa that was playing over 20m. IMO, the answer really wasn't that we needed to give up skill for tougness, it was really more of our skill needed to get tougher.

But hey, who am I to convince the Sedins that they shouldn't just take punches from junior like a bunch of sissies. I don't see them changing or stepping up as battlers so...


Can't get clouded the great moves that Gillis has made. He's also made some bad decisions (the Sundin 2 yr offer that we were lucky he didn't take, Ballard not being a fit). To me it seems like the franchise never had a good relationship with Cody what with the drama of Cody not cracking the line up the last 2 season and the drama about how unsatisfied Cody was with how the team treated his injuries that he needed to seek medical help on his own (because he doubted the team doctor's had his best interest in mind).

In retrospect, it just feels like this 1 season he made the line up as a regular (but playing basement minutes) was just nothing more than just an attempt to up his value to be jettisonned. Not that I'm right, but it's just how it looks.

[trancehead]

must be a weird feeling for cody. his teammates or whoever else finding out hes being traded before he himself finds out.

notice how mike gillis was responsible for drafting cody, and now responsible for trading him away lol

[dbaz]

We need cody hodgson if we play against rangers in the finals at the same time we need kassian against boston. Since he has the "dont give a fuck" mentality to go after players like marchand. He will intent to injury players too!
the fuck is with your logic :facepalm:

[trancehead]

theres a large pendelum of stanley cup winners that swings to either the left or right
skill or grit

i would put teams like detroit on the left side, boston on the right
but todays trades bring us closer to the right...hopefully overall making us a more competitive team.
but the previous posters are right, there will be more pressure on our top 2 lines to score now as the bottom 6 are very much hard hats. cody put up some pretty impressive numbers considering he was averaging about 10 mins on the third line and secondary PP time.

[dbaz]

det bottom six is cleary, abdelkater, emmerton, helm, holmstrom, mursak. thats gritty not skill lol

[DanHibiki]

Holmstrom is supposed to be skill/grit but having a bad season

[jeedee]

must be a weird feeling for cody. his teammates or whoever else finding out hes being traded before he himself finds out.

It was really awkward too... Cody and Sulzer were walking back to the hotel and Tanev told them they were both traded..not MG or TSN lol

[dbaz]

holmstrom has skill if you consider standing in front of the net all day skill. hes not what he used to be hes just grit now

[LSF22]

I'll be right here to acknowledge it if this trade becomes a complete bust...



but I'll also be here to watch you guys eat your words if ZaKa and Gragnani pan out



IN GILLIS I TRUST

[DanHibiki]

It was really awkward too... Cody and Sulzer were walking back to the hotel and Tanev told them they were both traded..not MG or TSN lol

happens to a lot of players

Anson Carter found out by seeing his name on TV while working out

[cliffhanger33]

It was really awkward too... Cody and Sulzer were walking back to the hotel and Tanev told them they were both traded..not MG or TSN lol

Apparently the league messed up. they gave Buffalo permission to tell its players while leaving the Nucks on hold, so I guess everything was delayed for the canucks.

[dbaz]

league had to allow buffalo to tell its players as they were on the verge of traveling. in no way did the league mess up its just the way shit happens sometimes

[mb_]

I'm not against the trade by any means but I've been following Cody since he got drafted and I'm sure a lot of you have too. Goodbye Cody, Vancity will miss you :(

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m031lu1Ukf1r48eu0o1_400.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m031lu1Ukf1r48eu0o2_400.gif

:tears:

[DanHibiki]

^Yup. I remember when we drafted him how excited I was. I told my friend that when he breaks into the league I'll get his jersey and all.

Every year we keep hoping he'll make his way onto the team and just when he finally has, he gets traded. All that commitment to this player, gone.

[Eastwood]

So what prospects does Vancouver have now. I mean I can't believe we traded away the rookie of the year.

[CRS]

So what prospects does Vancouver have now. I mean I can't believe we traded away the rookie of the year.

This has yet to be determined but he did win rookie of the month.

[dboy]

Sucks for those who bought his jersey

[jeedee]

So what prospects does Vancouver have now. I mean I can't believe we traded away the rookie of the year.

Schroeder, Jensen, Rodin, Connauton just to name a few.
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[civicyvr]

Sure, that's if:
1. Kassian makes the line up and
2. AV is an situation (in a game) where he can afford not pushing the top 2 lines out there in an alternating manner.

You have to remember, we traded away guys like Hordichuk or Glass because toughness alone can't guarantee you into the bottom lines, you actually have to be good as well. If Kassi can't put up numbers with little minutes he'll get playing in the bottom 2 lines, he ain't playing in the playoffs to protect anyone.


To me, it seems like he's the bigger gamble than CoHo. At least with CoHo, we know what we're going to get, and it's good. I never really thought we needed toughness. If we wanted someone to fight Marchand or the likes, we had Bieksa that was playing over 20m. IMO, the answer really wasn't that we needed to give up skill for tougness, it was really more of our skill needed to get tougher.

But hey, who am I to convince the Sedins that they shouldn't just take punches from junior like a bunch of sissies. I don't see them changing or stepping up as battlers so...


Can't get clouded the great moves that Gillis has made. He's also made some bad decisions (the Sundin 2 yr offer that we were lucky he didn't take, Ballard not being a fit). To me it seems like the franchise never had a good relationship with Cody what with the drama of Cody not cracking the line up the last 2 season and the drama about how unsatisfied Cody was with how the team treated his injuries that he needed to seek medical help on his own (because he doubted the team doctor's had his best interest in mind).

In retrospect, it just feels like this 1 season he made the line up as a regular (but playing basement minutes) was just nothing more than just an attempt to up his value to be jettisonned. Not that I'm right, but it's just how it looks.

Agree. I don't believe this trade made us better for the playoffs.

I like the other trades that MG have made though.

[604pt]

Just heard the news here overseas. Still can't believe it. In Gillis we trust i guess..( good thing i decided to wait to purchase a Hodgson jersey..)
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[trancehead]

keep in mind we still have schneider. either him or lou will be traded one day inevitably, and that will fetch us a great deal down the road

[AzNightmare]

So is Kassian supposed to be NHL ready or what?
I'm hearing so many different theories.

I assume this trade is supposed to upgrade the Canucks NOW and make the team
more prepared to win the cup NOW.

And then there's a flip side that this guy might not even be fully NHL ready, and
power forwards usually take longer to develop than other forwards...

:fulloffuck:

Maybe good reason for me to have stayed silent for the past 15 pages and just wait
and watch him the next few games.

[jeedee]

So is Kassian supposed to be NHL ready or what?


Gillis says he's NHL ready so take it for what its worth. He was in the AHL for a bit to 'develop' and played a bit this year. Think of it when Hodgson played on the last year on the 4th line with plugs.

Kassian was in the exact situation.
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[DanHibiki]

So is Kassian supposed to be NHL ready or what?
I'm hearing so many different theories.

I assume this trade is supposed to upgrade the Canucks NOW and make the team
more prepared to win the cup NOW.

And then there's a flip side that this guy might not even be fully NHL ready, and
power forwards usually take longer to develop than other forwards...

:fulloffuck:

Maybe good reason for me to have stayed silent for the past 15 pages and just wait
and watch him the next few games.

This is a now and future move. He brings something we haven't had since Bertuzzi left, skill + grit.

He can be effective now. If he can score then he can fit in the top 6 and if not, he can grind it out in the bottom 6.

With Henrik and Kesler locking up #1 and #2 in the center position, Cody doesn't fit since he won't surpass them anytime soon nor is he a 3rd line checker.

Kassian SHOULD turn into a good power forward for us.

[jeedee]

I also love the acquisition of Pahlsson.

It allows Kesler to be "offense only" and he won't be used on the PK as much with Manny, Lappy, and Pahlsson able to do that.
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[AzNightmare]

Gillis says he's NHL ready so take it for what its worth. He was in the AHL for a bit to 'develop' and played a bit this year. Think of it when Hodgson played on the last year on the 4th line with plugs.

Kassian was in the exact situation.
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OK. Great. So we traded Hodgson for a guy that might not even crack the team roster to help us in the playoffs.
:suspicious:

I'll only consider MG's only a genius if Kassian makes an impact this season (for the cup) though,
not 2-3 years down the road.


This is a now and future move. He brings something we haven't had since Bertuzzi left, skill + grit.

He can be effective now. If he can score then he can fit in the top 6 and if not, he can grind it out in the bottom 6.

With Henrik and Kesler locking up #1 and #2 in the center position, Cody doesn't fit since he won't surpass them anytime soon nor is he a 3rd line checker.

Kassian SHOULD turn into a good power forward for us.

OK, this makes a bit more sense.
Almost like MG made a "safe" gamble.

[jeedee]

OK. Great. So we traded Hodgson for a guy that might not even crack the team roster to help us in the playoffs.
:suspicious:


...What are you talking about? He's played 27 games for Buffalo this season (that's what I meant by a bit of games) and is expected to play in todays game versus Phoenix.

He was brought in specifically for this years run with his size, grit, and power forward capabilities.
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[AzNightmare]

...What are you talking about? He's played 27 games for Buffalo this season (that's what I meant by a bit of games) and is expected to play in todays game versus Phoenix.

He was brought in specifically for this years run with his size, grit, and power forward capabilities.
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Ok, after reading so many posts of different comments. I misunderstood, thought people were questioning whether he was really NHL ready,
meaning whether he was going to stay as a regular roster or not.

[b0unce. [?]]

Seldom does it happen that players come to Vancouver and get worse. All the players that MG has brought in this season has improved immensely compared to their past years records. Higgins and Lappy are prob the best example.
I think Kassian will flourish here.
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[411ken]

The more I read about Kassian, Pahlsson and Gragnani, the more excited I get about them coming here. We all wanted that big power forward, bottom 6 player and depth on D.. We got all that on this deal and moving forward.

Plus I don't think we've seen CoHo against oppositions' top line and top pairing D. I wanna see him against Chara, Malkin on a daily basis now as that will really put him to test.

Gillis knows what his doing but now that I've read a lot and watched Kassian's game.. something tells me that we won this trade.. and Gragnani surprising us all :P

plus.. kassian sounded reallllly excited to come play for the team so that's a plus already :)

[slsSpeC]

Cody Hodgson was never going to get top 6 minutes in Vancouver. With H Sedin and Kesler down the middle, he would've stayed as the 3rd line center. Factor in AV's trust issues with Hodgson and he would've had even fewer minutes to play.

Pahlson gives AV a true shut down line to turn to to alleviate the pressure off Kesler.

It's tough to see Cody go but he'll get the ice he needs to flourish in Buffalo.

[MG1]

Looking forward to tonight's game.

Pretty sad to see CoHo leave, but shit happens.......... it's out of our control and there's no point in crying over spilt milk. Time to move on and get geared up for the playoffs!

Trade deadline comes at right time of year. Enough time for noobs on the team to get used to the way things are done, and relief for the players on those teams that didn't move players. Log jams for last spot makes for interesting end of season. The only thing I fear about that is our players getting injured. Some teams will be fighting hard for points and it'll be tough.

[bballguy]

It seems like everyone just repeats the same thing over and over and over again in this thread...

[411ken]

^ who cares.. it's a forum man.. i'm sure we don't have time to read every single post to see if someone wrote it already..

anyways.. where would you guys put Kassian tonight?

I'd like to see

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Raymond Pahlsson Higgins
Lappy Malhotra Hansen


I think Kesler and Booth's hard work will help kassian's game.

[7seven]

Kassian reminds me of another former Canuck, the house, Jim Sandlak. Both big mean SOB, 1st rd picks, similar junior and AHL #s good hands and skill in juniors and AHL. I think realistically he'll settle into a in between Sandlak - Chris Gratton type 40-50pt servicable power forward.

[Tapioca]

^ Took the words right out of my mouth. Sandlak had 1 20-goal season and he had maybe 2-3 decent seasons before fading into obscurity. In the 90s, no one cared about Sandlak - it was Pavel, Trev, Courtnall, Ronning, and Jyrki Lumme. At least Nedved had one great season for us.

On the other hand, Cody will never be the next coming of Adam Oates. I imagine he'll settle into a solid 60 point guy.
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[Not really racist!]

I only hope this guy can hold up to what Gillis thinks he'll achieve

[dbaz]

^ who cares.. it's a forum man.. i'm sure we don't have time to read every single post to see if someone wrote it already..

anyways.. where would you guys put Kassian tonight?


3rd or 4th line book it. although everyone will be tried everywhere at one point because they will be trying to find chemistry between now and the playoffs

sandlak is a bad comparison imo, dont think he was as good and had the injury history of someone between a young sami salo and rick dipietro.

[jeedee]

@sportsnetmurph:
Samuel Pahlsson will wear #26, Zack Kassian steps right into Hodgson's old #9 jersey and MAG has taken #5. #canucks

Kassian taking Hodgsons old #9 and MAG taking Ehrhoffs old #5
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[jeedee]

^ who cares.. it's a forum man.. i'm sure we don't have time to read every single post to see if someone wrote it already..

anyways.. where would you guys put Kassian tonight?

I'd like to see

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Raymond Pahlsson Higgins
Lappy Malhotra Hansen


I think Kesler and Booth's hard work will help kassian's game.

Kassian won't play on the 2nd line till the playoffs IMO.

He'll start on the 3rd/4th for now and work his way up
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[7seven]

sandlak is a bad comparison imo, dont think he was as good and had the injury history of someone between a young sami salo and rick dipietro.

Yea, the House had some injury issues after his first 3 years in pro hockey that derailed his career, I was more comparing Kassian at this stage of his career to Sandlak's early career, very similar. Sandlak was a force and star in juniors, point a game guy in juniors and AHL, star during the World Jr tourny for Canada, I think he was even the captain for team Canada, Sandlak was a very skilled big man in junior and AHL, maybe a bit more than Kassian, he was the 4th overall pick, just never got it all right at NHL level, part of it due to injurys.

[SumAznGuy]

Yea, the House had some injury issues after his first 3 years in pro hockey that derailed his career, I was more comparing Kassian at this stage of his career to Sandlak's early career, very similar. Sandlak was a force and star in juniors, point a game guy in juniors and AHL, star during the World Jr tourny for Canada, I think he was even the captain for team Canada, Sandlak was a very skilled big man in junior and AHL, maybe a bit more than Kassian, he was the 4th overall pick, just never got it all right at NHL level, part of it due to injurys.

Don't forget, at the World JR's, Jim Sandlak put a player through the glass with a big body check. Of course Kassim knocked an opposing player into the following week. :fuckyea:

[Eastwood]

Does anyone know what the new players contracts are? Do we lose them next year?

[RRxtar]

Id expect to see Kassian start on the 3rd or 4th line in not important situations until AV sees if hes going to be a liability or not.

The canucks are built on defensively sound forwards. Everyones looking at Kassians potential offensive game, but if hes going to be playing 3rd or 4th line roles, he has to be solid in his own end. That sometimes takes a few years to develop.

[em1.ac]

Kassian drops Ovi 8

Zack Kassian drops Alexander Ovechkin - YouTube

[7seven]

Always neat to see a bit of behind the scenes stuff

Official NHL trade call between Sabres, Canucks and NHL confirming Hodgson/Kassian trade

Making the Official Call: Trading of Cody Hodgson to Buffalo Sabres - 12/27/12 - YouTube

[411ken]

Kassian won't play on the 2nd line till the playoffs IMO.

He'll start on the 3rd/4th for now and work his way up
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That's true..i guess i just got excited lol. I have a feeling AV will give this kid a shot to showcase his talents...i mean.. they did trade CoHo for him who's clearly a fan favorite lol

I wonder if CoHo will sign here again after his contract expires LOL.. that would be awesome

[Hondaracer]

What people aren't going to understand is that Kassian is not a direct replacement for cody

If anything phaulson (sp) is the replacement as a center, Kassian will be on the 3rd and 4th lines to add depth and grit along with the likes of reinprecht etc

He's almost setup to fail with people expecting him being better than cody, best cast scenario is that he is a serviceable depth guy that adds consistent grit to the lineup
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[Tim Budong]

Kassian has the skillset of a playmaker, teams were worried in his draft year that this guy could be a bust because of how hard he plays the game. 13 fights during draft elgiable year, all this while killin it with Windsor

This is just heard of the radio and I completely agree

A year ago, Gillis went with the Detroit model, 3 lines to out play the opposition in the playoffs. With forwards such as Datsyuk and cleary who can score and play some defensive hockey was key to their success. Its not a very traditional cup winning team model. Our bread and butter was clearly the PP.

The Canucks rolled 3 scoring lines to win the presidents trophy and get to within one of the cup. It looked like this was the direction the team was headed for again this season. I guess MG truly believes that grit is needed to become a winner.

I dont know how GMs or media see this, but the Canucks "window of opportunity" isnt gone yet.

With Cody this year, our second unit PP isnt an afterthought. If the first unit doesn't pull through, in comes our 2nd unit which is still a thread. Now, we go back to what it is last year. The pressure will be on Raymond and Higgins to step up on the 2nd unit. Along with Gragandi who is SCOUTED to be a very good offensive dman

I just hope that the bread and butter of the teams success isnt jeopardized with this deal. Its small step back for bigger things later. Its tough to ask Kassian and Gragandi to become men on this team too soon.

[RiceIntegraRS]

If he throws his weight around like Torres did with the consistency of a Clutterbuck ill be happy with his performance. His goal scoring ability will probably come with time
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[Tim Budong]

For those who love Goalie Mask art

NHL Masks of this season from SI

Steve Mason - Columbus Blue Jackets - NHL Goalie Masks by Team (2011-12) - Photos - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1202/nhl-goalie-masks-by-team-2011-12/content.15.html)

[dbaz]

best cast scenario is that he is a serviceable depth guy that adds consistent grit to the lineup


:facepalm: . best case scenario hes someone like lucic or even a bit better.

those who say canucks went with the detroit model with 3 scoring lines. detroit doesnt have 3 scoring lines they have 2 and 2 lines that can grind people and have some offensive upside. the only reason people think its 3 is because babcock changes his lines around. they only have 6 "offensive" players. the rest are people who will grind and check. the problem is the canucks tried to almost go with almost 9 offensive players and only 3 checkers. doesnt work in the playoffs.

[Tim Budong]

:facepalm: . best case scenario hes someone like lucic or even a bit better.

those who say canucks went with the detroit model with 3 scoring lines. detroit doesnt have 3 scoring lines they have 2 and 2 lines that can grind people and have some offensive upside.

u know what I mean, when that 3rd line with Cleary or Abdelkader can come in and pop goals here and there. Its still similar to what Manny, Hansen and Raymond did all last season

as to the guy that failed my goalie mask post.. :rukidding:

[Hondaracer]

:facepalm: . best case scenario hes someone like lucic or even a bit better.

those who say canucks went with the detroit model with 3 scoring lines. detroit doesnt have 3 scoring lines they have 2 and 2 lines that can grind people and have some offensive upside. the only reason people think its 3 is because babcock changes his lines around. they only have 6 "offensive" players. the rest are people who will grind and check. the problem is the canucks tried to almost go with almost 9 offensive players and only 3 checkers. doesnt work in the playoffs.

I'm talking about short term bud..
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[411ken]

adding pahlsson into 3rd line in place of CoHo is great cuz he brings leadership and experience as a cup champ. adding grit to that by Kassian.. plus the PP ability of MAG.. we are set for another deep run IMO.

can't wait for the game.. i'm actually excited now to see these new guys play :) can't wait to see Kassian's first big hit too

[Mike Oxbig]

^True but maybe Gillis is thinking ahead.

Schneider might be traded this offseason.

Tampa? Columbus? Maybe we can get Ryan Johansen or Brett Connolly.

Varlamov fetched a 1st round last year. I hope Tampa trade their 2 first round pick for cory (top 5pick + det 1st round from quincey)

[highfive]

Detroit's model is where their bottom lines can play against other teams top lines. That gives room for their top line to have higher chances of scoring against the opposing teams bottom lines. Why do you think Babcock coaches one of the best home winning teams?

Compare last years 3rd line centre to this years. Manny vs Cody.

Manny allowed Kesler to have a more offensive role to score. Whereas Cody requires more skilled wingers to flourish. Cody would've been the odd man out if he didn't perform or traded sooner or later.

I'm just shocked that Cody was traded so soon at the deadline when there's a time limit instead of the offseason. The thing shock me even more is that Gillis did not shop him around or at least listen to what offers is available.

So it's either Cody's family influenced the trade to Buffalo or that Gillis has a lot of confidence in Kassian and Gragnani to be contributors in the upcoming years.

[JD¹³]

For those who love Goalie Mask art

NHL Masks of this season from SI

Steve Mason - Columbus Blue Jackets - NHL Goalie Masks by Team (2011-12) - Photos - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1202/nhl-goalie-masks-by-team-2011-12/content.15.html)
Nice link thanks. I quite like Jason LaBarbera's, a classy tribute in Pheonix:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1202/nhl-goalie-masks-by-team-2011-12/images/phoenix-jason-labarbera(2).jpg

“To see him, as a professional athlete, stop doing what he had worked his whole life toward to do something he thought was right — join the Army and go over and do what he did — is a pretty amazing thing,” LaBarbera said. “Nobody else can say that. It’s a pretty special thing he did, so this is a representation of what he did and everyone that’s fighting over there.”

For every win he gets during the 2011-12 season, he plans to donate $420 – Tillman’s number was 42 – to the Pat Tillman Foundation. It was started by Pat’s widow, Marie, and provides support to military service members and their families.

[krazynuck]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1202/nhl-goalie-masks-by-team-2011-12/images/toronto-james-reimer.jpg


why the hell would you put Ron Mclean and Don Cherry on your mask...

[Renthal]

he thinks that if he has ron and don on his mask he wont get ripped on hockey night in canada :troll:

[Expresso]

adding pahlsson into 3rd line in place of CoHo is great cuz he brings leadership and experience as a cup champ. adding grit to that by Kassian.. plus the PP ability of MAG.. we are set for another deep run IMO.

can't wait for the game.. i'm actually excited now to see these new guys play :) can't wait to see Kassian's first big hit too

I wonder if he still has it though. I remember Chicago added him at the deadline in 08-09 and he didn't seem like the same player the Ducks had during their run. Let's hope and see.

[411ken]

^ ya.. hopefully being on the same team as sedins/edler would help him out and adjust fine... it's a waiting game now..

[411ken]

NHL: Sabres and Canucks trade call Video - NHL VideoCenter - Vancouver Canucks (http://video.canucks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hdpid=6&id=160832&intcmpid=van-spotlight-call-v)

i dont know if this has been posted but here's a video of the trade.. it was Gillman who called in with buffalo rep.

[7seven]

i dont know if this has been posted but here's a video of the trade.. it was Gillman who called in with buffalo rep.

Already posted, 1 page back.

[highfive]

I'm actually excited for tonight's game. Pahlsson and Kassian is playing for sure.

Gragnani is going to be game time decision though.

hahha thinking about it, ppl are probably pissed about the Kassian trade because he's only 75!!! in NHL 12....

[jeedee]

hahha thinking about it, ppl are probably pissed about the Kassian trade because he's only 75!!! in NHL 12....

...If people base a players skill from game overalls......you shouldn't be watching hockey lol
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[korroke]

time to pick up kassian in nhl 12 :fuckyea:

[cliffhanger33]

This may be unreliable but my teachers son has the same agent as CoHo's and he confirmed that coho asked to be traded
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[jeedee]

This may be unreliable but my teachers son has the same agent as CoHo's and he confirmed that coho asked to be traded
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....If its unreliable why would you post it? :fulloffuck:
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[cctw]

This may be unreliable but my teachers son has the same agent as CoHo's and he confirmed that coho asked to be traded
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who is your teacher's son? lol

[7seven]

Cody Hodgson's First Visit to Buffalo! - YouTube

Hodgson first tour of the Sabres' facilities, he had to go to Buffalo before meeting the team in Anaheim to sort out immigration and work visa issues now being employed by a US employer. Look for him to start on a line with Ennis and Stafford tomorrow likely wearing #12.

[cliffhanger33]

who is your teacher's son? lol
His Son drafted for van giants, same agent as coho

I'm just saying to take it with a grain of salt
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[7seven]

From all reports from media guys, teammates and anyone who saw Cody yesterday, they all say he was genuinely shocked, surprised and shaking to be traded.

Cody Hodgson denies asking Vancouver Canucks for trade | Sports | National Post (http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/02/28/cody-hodgson-denies-he-asked-canucks-for-trade/)

Cody Hodgson is adamant he had not asked for a trade from the Canucks and was surprised to leave the NHL team in a trade with Buffalo that reconfigured both teams on Monday.

Hodgson, 22 was swapped along with spare-part defenceman Alexander Sulzer to the Sabres near the NHL trade deadline for unproven power winger Zack Kassian, 21, and extra defenceman Marc-Andre Gragnani.

“I was as shocked as anyone,” Hodgson told The Province on Monday evening. “I didn’t see it coming. I really like the city and the fans and the guys are great. But I understand it’s a business and I’m moving on to a new opportunity.......

“It’s tough to leave,” said Hodgson. “Vancouver is such a great city and the fans are so passionate about the game. I just have to look at it on the other side. It’s a good opportunity in Buffalo and I’m going to be playing with a couple guys I know in Tyler Ennis and Tyler Myers and Luke Adam, who I got to know at the all-star game, so it seems like a good group there, too. I hope I can fit in.”........

As he started to score more as the season went on, Hodgson’s ice time became a hot topic in the media, but he said it wasn’t a big deal to him.

“From my perspective I wasn’t too concerned,” he said. “After missing a year, I really enjoyed even being back in the American League last year, and having the opportunity to play in the playoffs was pretty special. This year, whatever role was given, I just tried to go and have fun and enjoy it.”

Hodgson said he wishes the Canucks well.

“I know it’s a business and they have to do what they need to do to win the Stanley Cup,” he said.

“I really appreciated all they’d done. They helped me get back [to playing hockey] and develop, and [gave] me an opportunity last year.”

[jeedee]

His Son drafted for van giants, same agent as coho

I'm just saying to take it with a grain of salt
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....Why would the agent till his other clients about Hodgson's business?

Isn't that why players have an agent? To keep things private, not have a gossip girl marathon.
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[RiceIntegraRS]

Maybe hodgson asked to be traded like 2 years ago. Im pretty sure people got this idea now fro
A story thatvwas made b4 last years season where cody didnt make the team
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[Tim Budong]

The story in which CoHo wanted out was a rumor
this was two off seasons ago

he said he will do what it takes to crack the team this year, and he did it
he did it to stay and be an integral part of our system

[Greenstoner]

both swedish sammi wearing #26 :D

mikael samuelsson & samuel pahlsson

[jeedee]

I find it odd that the new guys picked "old" guys numbers..

#5 Ehrhoff -> Gragnani
#9 Hodgson -> Kassian
#26 Samuelsson -> Pahlsson

Coincidence? I think not :lol

[Vale46Rossi]

I find it odd that the new guys picked "old" guys numbers..

#5 Ehrhoff -> Gragnani
#9 Hodgson -> Kassian
#26 Samuelsson -> Pahlsson

Coincidence? I think not :lol

Kassian's old number is #9 in world junior.

[pure.life]

Kassian's old number is #9 in world junior.

using the same numbers that got them to the Cup finals last year

[Vale46Rossi]

This is not NHL related but I was going thru some sports video of the week thought this was pretty funny


Funny Liverpool Kid pokes himself in the eye but doesn't care - YouTube

[Soundy]

"As he started to score more as the season went on, Hodgson’s ice time became a hot topic in the media, but he said it wasn’t a big deal to him."

And yet, going to Buffalo is a HUGE opportunity for him - with the level of talent on the Canucks, he'd be years (or another major trade) away from playing the second line on a regular basis. In Buffalo, he's a bona fide second-liner with probably a good number of shifts on the top line. It's potentially a massive boost to his career, and I say, good for him.

[Not really racist!]

At least hes in the East

[woob]

In Buffalo, he's a bona fide second-liner with probably a good number of shifts on the top line. It's potentially a massive boost to his career, and I say, good for him.

If you look at the minutes of the Top 6 Buffalo forwards, they play almost the same amount (~19:00 to ~16:00 for each of the 6 forwards). Cody is easily going to see >15:00 if he is moved into a 2nd line role.

I am happy to see him get an opportunity to play more. Buffalo is now higher up on teams to cheer for.

[pure.life]

Farewell Cody :(
Farewell Cody Hodgson, Vancouver will miss you... - YouTube

[nsmb]

^^^

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/cry/grand/25903973-cry-gif-.gif

[bobbinka]

as per team 1040 yesterday, it was cody's family (mainly dad) that pushed for the trade. they thought he had no future here,with kesler and henrik up front, and also they wanted him closer to home.

his dad has been the biggest influence in his entire hockey life/career, but i think hodgson is probably not very happy with him right now.

[dbaz]

^ called it. just shows how much parents can piss off an organization

[Mike Oxbig]

Probably push for the trade now so he still have the chance to get the Calder. What about the stanley CUP!!!!

[kwy]

Kassian debuting on the 4th line with Lappy and Manny tonight. Game starts in 20, this is gonna be interesting.

[b0unce. [?]]

regardless, from a fan pov, i still miss him. i hope everything works out for him in buffalo.

[Gh0stRider]

already in stores

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417253_353488398006560_136033019752100_1135803_187 2391114_n.jpg

[JD¹³]

as per team 1040 yesterday, it was cody's family (mainly dad) that pushed for the trade. they thought he had no future here,with kesler and henrik up front, and also they wanted him closer to home.

his dad has been the biggest influence in his entire hockey life/career, but i think hodgson is probably not very happy with him right now.
If true, his dad is a fucking fool.

[em1.ac]

Kassian debuting on the 4th line with Lappy and Manny tonight. Game starts in 20, this is gonna be interesting.

Just enough time for me to finish dropping the cosby kids off at the pool
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[bobbinka]

If true, his dad is a fucking fool.

well, they way they explained it was that even though canucks are favorite, when it comes down to the finals there's still a 50/50 chance we wont win the cup.

at least in buffalo, he'll be given every opportunity and ice time to be used to his full potential.

[dbaz]

his dad is like i posted yesterday his dad forced the ohl to tell teams at the bantam draft he would only play in towns close to his hometown. he also forced his son to fire his first agent because he couldnt get his 2cents in

[UFO]

Coho, classy kid with a good head screwed to his shoulders. Good to see him get an honest chance. Hope he takes it and runs with it.

[Hondaracer]

No one ever came out and confirmed shit on 1040 yesterday.. it's all just rumors still, all the stuff about his parents wanting him closer to home was all brought up by callers..

[RiceIntegraRS]

We'll Hodgson will be playing in Vancouver on Saturday. Hopefully everyone chants his name to show how much he meant to us. "Coho, Coho, Coho"

[Vale46Rossi]

LETS GO NUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dbaz]

No one ever came out and confirmed shit on 1040 yesterday.. it's all just rumors still, all the stuff about his parents wanting him closer to home was all brought up by callers..

so nhl analysts from tsn, sportsnet and others around the league are now random callers? dont kid yourself people know he has this baggage since before his draft and its been definitely creating a problem

[MG1]

GAME TIME!!!

Let's kick some desert dawgs............



Lots of ex-pats in the arena. Scottsdale represent!

[DsZ24]

Canucks nation looks strong there tonight. LETS DO THIS

[gars]

edited out

[Not really racist!]

hmmm, __________ got his channel closed....

40

[em1.ac]

Go nucks Go
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[em1.ac]

Schneider's between the pipes
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[Not really racist!]

gars u understood

:fullofwin:

[Greenstoner]

i understood , thanks

[gars]

kwy pm'd me as well after but yes, I understood... haha.

[spoon.ek9]

Guys, please edit out the info in your posts regarding streams. Rules.
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[Greenstoner]

close one

[b0unce. [?]]

kassian got some wheels!

[kwy]

crossbar. :rukidding:

[Not really racist!]

time for our pp to click

[spoon.ek9]

Gars edit your post

Not Really Racist! Thanks
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[em1.ac]

I like how Kassian is being physical!
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[SumAznGuy]

so nhl analysts from tsn, sportsnet and others around the league are now random callers? dont kid yourself people know he has this baggage since before his draft and its been definitely creating a problem

Officially, it was never confirmed by anyone. MG and Gilman both said no comment when a reporter asked about the "Hodgson Camp" asking for the trade.
And it was John Garret who said it might have been Cody's dad who had something to do with the trade. And B Mac asked specifically if Cody's dad had asked for the trade and Garret said "No, but where there's smoke, there is fire".

They brought up the fact that Cody's dad plays a big part about his career and how he is only 21 and how everyone at that age listens to their dad's. Something about how the family went against Dave Gagner when it came to what Cody was going to do to help heal his back.

[RiceIntegraRS]

I can see Kassian is pretty quick with his hands

[Obsideon]

Kassian drops Ovi 8
Zack Kassian drops Alexander Ovechkin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFMkLx8Vus4)

I can't picture anyone else from the current roster being able to take a rush from Ovi and stand him up. Ovi was going pretty fast and he's a big guy too.


I wonder if CoHo will sign here again after his contract expires LOL.. that would be awesome

I honestly feel that even if we kept him for the next couple years, he wouldn't re-sign in Vancouver, especially if Gillis asks him for a "hometown" discount (which seems to be the popular trend), because he clearly wanted to go east to be closer to his family and be able to play a more prominent role. Nobody with his talent is going to want to stay plugged in the 3rd line behind All-Stars Henrik and Kesler.

I remember everyone was crying about how we didn't draft big, bad Lucic, and now that we FINALLY acquire 6'4" 213lb Kassian who is in his mold and possibly even has the potential to be even better, everyone starts crying about how we lose skill with Hodgson.

[spoon.ek9]

any working stream for this game?

Read the rules regarding that...
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[Hondaracer]

so nhl analysts from tsn, sportsnet and others around the league are now random callers? dont kid yourself people know he has this baggage since before his draft and its been definitely creating a problem

Lol I listen to team1040 all day everyday, no one ever confirmed anything, least of all any TSN guys etc

Only person that had any sort of legit scoop was tony Gallagher and even his was more or less speculation.
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[Bonka]

Kes! or Edler!

[Not really racist!]

BEASTTT

[kwy]

GOOOOAAAALLLLL

[MR_BIGGS]

GOAL!

[DsZ24]

Woooo EDLER

[SumAznGuy]

Lol I listen to team1040 all day everyday, no one ever confirmed anything, least of all any TSN guys etc

Only person that had any sort of legit scoop was tony Gallagher and even his was more or less speculation.

In the pregame show, he too said "where there's smoke, there's fire" so yeah no one knows for sure that has officially said anything.
Supposedly, CoHo was shaking from shock when he found out about the trade and was truely genuine when he said he hadn't asked to be traded according to many reports.

One more thing that was said yesterday but JG and BMac. They both referenced to Cody's dad that Marcel Dionne was a very good first line centerman, THAT NEVER WON A STANLEY CUP.

[Hondaracer]

Well yea, when your agent etc won't come out and directly say that they never asked for a trade that provokes thought

But IMO I highly doubt they ever anticipated this move or forced it, no matter what his dad/agent thinks, I think cody could have "suffered" 3rd line minutes for a couple years to have the chance at a cup over the eagerness to find his own 2nd/1st line position on another team.
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[XplicitLuder]

anyone wanna pm me something.. ;) you know what im talkin bout

[b0unce. [?]]

so good, edler

[XplicitLuder]

graciasss

[AzNightmare]

anyone wanna pm me something.. ;) you know what im talkin bout

damn.... the place I watch my games has been shut down... :okay: :okay: :okay:

[kristianhay]

Kassian looked good out there. Battled hard for the puck, showed his strength and speed and also made some nice passes and plays. He showed a better hockey IQ/sense than people give him credit for.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Well yea, when your agent etc won't come out and directly say that they never asked for a trade that provokes thought

But IMO I highly doubt they ever anticipated this move or forced it, no matter what his dad/agent thinks, I think cody could have "suffered" 3rd line minutes for a couple years to have the chance at a cup over the eagerness to find his own 2nd/1st line position on another team.
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Could? i think he would have. I think everyone knows that u may not have alot of chances to play for the cup. Cody aint stupid, why would he leave the Canucks who have the greatest chance to play for it. Linden and Bure only played for the Cup once. Iginla once aswell, and the list goes on.

[MG1]

anyone wanna pm me something.. ;) you know what im talkin bout

What is it you're looking for? Would you like me to pm you a link to my pics of the Superskills competition? The ones I took when I landed seats right behind the player's bench?

J/K........................... bump.......... I mean, burp. :whistle:

[Gh0stRider]

anyone wanna pm me something.. ;) you know what im talkin bout

oh you want the infraction points? :troll:

[dlu]

phoenix games are always so boring

[cliffhanger33]

first shot and almost first goal for kassian

[highfive]

hahaha did anyone see one of the scrums in the end and Torres was pushing Maholtra...he looked more like hey!!! hey!!! it's me raffi...lol

[RiceIntegraRS]

^yeah i saw that.

[Gh0stRider]

Fans blast Wilson as Leafs lose 5-2 to Panthers - NHL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-panthers-leafs)

Loud chants of “Fire Wilson!” directed at coach Ron Wilson were heard twice during the third period as the Leafs lost for the ninth time in 10 games


haha

[cliffhanger33]

SSSSSCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[XplicitLuder]

schnuu

[krazynuck]

Fans blast Wilson as Leafs lose 5-2 to Panthers - NHL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-panthers-leafs)




haha

guess he spend to much time planning the parade then planning the second half of the season

[kwy]

Leafs suck

[seakrait]

Fuuuuuu

[DsZ24]

fuuuuuuuuuuu

[krazynuck]

boooooo

[cliffhanger33]

Meh, schneider can't hold them off for that long

[kwy]

Fuck, we had that coming

[Noir]

Just like the Canucks. Get a goal, sit back and hope the time goes out.

[Bonka]

Lame. Sitting ducks here..

[Not really racist!]

fck

[dark0821]

FUUU =.= sigh...

[Noir]

Fuck this pisses me off more. Now they decide to play?

[MG1]

Damn.........

[cliffhanger33]

Now we are gna try to catch up... :sleep:

[spoon.ek9]

so it's 1-1 with less than 10mins left eh

won't get home in time to catch it but..... :accepted:

[cliffhanger33]

fuuuuuuu

[Not really racist!]

.... PK

[Not really racist!]

good kill

[sonick]

LOL Hansen trolled Raffi.

[dark0821]

oh that was close -.-

fuck... oh great...
like true Canucks fashion...

[XplicitLuder]

when does raymond NOT fall..lawl

[cliffhanger33]

omg OT again :fulloffuck::fulloffuck:

[kwy]

Mason, Y U FALL DOWN SO MUCH?

[dbaz]

does schnieder have more saves than raymond has falls tonight?

[murd0c]

when does raymond NOT fall..lawl

when he succeeds :troll:

[Vale46Rossi]

wow.... robbed.

[dark0821]

OH GOD DAMN....

[Vale46Rossi]

On a good note. We are still ahead of Wings :D

[dark0821]

OMG FUCKING....

stupid away game

[Vale46Rossi]

HAHAHAHAHAH MAY RAY FELL AGAIN

[E-40six]

LOL @ Raymond again

[SumAznGuy]

Without the puck too.

[MG1]

shootout!

[dark0821]

SHOOTOUT!!!

[MG1]

Burrows, Edler and............

[Vale46Rossi]

LOL @ Raymond again

Without the puck too.


I actually lol'd IRL when that happened.

[MG1]

Booth?

[Vale46Rossi]

Raymond better spin!

[MG1]

Raymond can redeem himself here, LOL

[MG1]

damn.........

[Vale46Rossi]

He better not fall LOL

[seakrait]

Damn

[dark0821]

...

[MG1]

SsSsSsSsSsSsSssSsSsSsSsSsSsS

[dark0821]

Raymond... DONT FALL

[seakrait]

Falls

[Vale46Rossi]

He spun but he was tooo slow.



but he did fall LOOOLLOOLOOLOLOL

[Noir]

BAM!!! Where's AznNightmare?

[MG1]

Raymond spinner fail

[sonick]

lol spinorama stopped fuck

Who's that guy who said it was unstoppable

[spideyv2]

So what was that argument about the spin move being 'unstoppable?'
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[sonick]

Fuuuuu, 'yotes streak continues.

[dark0821]

-.-

[seakrait]

Well, at least we stay ahead of Detroit

[MG1]

FFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKK


oh well, it's a point............ hee hee



8 out of 12 points. C+

[palepilsenpin0y]

:rukidding:

[mb_]

WHY THE FUCK DOES AV ALWAYS PUT RAYMOND IN :fuuuuu:

[Bonka]

Serves them right for playing like that against a low scoring team.
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[chouchou]

coho would have scored :okay:

[dinamix]

coho coulda been useful for shootouts

[Vale46Rossi]

Although we lost... made my day when Raymond fell after his spin-o-rama.

LOL

[Durrann]

Should've put luuu in shoot out :) lol
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[kristianhay]

That was a brutal spinorama. He was pretty much stopped.

[XplicitLuder]

oh well :x

[winson604]

Lost another game after leading after 2? boooo

As if Raymond isn't already pissing me off he finds a way to make me even more mad. I'm not surprised it was stopped as Raymond is so not slick at pulling that move in 1 motion he gives the goalie a chance to stop it.

[b0unce. [?]]

schneids played well. team needs to score! and raymond's spin move was so poorly executed.

[Gh0stRider]

damn...nice move

[cliffhanger33]

he has a lag time between his spin and pulling the puck in. it would be 'very hard to stop' if he went in one slick motion

I blame the loss on the long grueling road trip :accepted:

[Not really racist!]

in typical canuck fashion...

[see.lai]

i wish we traded raymond instead..

--

What's wrong with coho on wing? :tears:

[SumAznGuy]

he has a lag time between his spin and pulling the puck in. it would be 'very hard to stop' if he went in one slick motion

I blame the lost on the long grueling road trip :accepted:

Or if he went high on the backhand like how Bertuzzi did it.

Too bad they didn't play Kassim on the shootout.

[Noir]

Lost another game after leading after 2? boooo

As if Raymond isn't already pissing me off he finds a way to make me even more mad. I'm not surprised it was stopped as Raymond is so not slick at pulling that move in 1 motion he gives the goalie a chance to stop it.

Yeah but either side down-low was covered if you saw Mike's legs. Only chance was if the move somehow was further out and the spin was tighter (instead of wider) so that he could pull in for a roofer-backhand.

There goes the unstoppable theory. It's a harder save than some moves, that's all it is.

[jeedee]

coho would have scored :okay:

coho coulda been useful for shootouts

Yeah...too bad AV wouldn't put him in :rukidding:

[Alatar]

Or if he went high on the backhand like how Bertuzzi did it.

Too bad they didn't play Kassim on the shootout.

At least spell Kassian's name right.

[jeedee]

Kassim :lawl:

[pure.life]

Kassim :lawl:

Dare to dream?:troll:
http://media.ifcfilms.com/images/films/film-detail-topper-image/kassim-the-dream_970x390.jpg

[pastarocket]

It is clear to many people why the Canucks cannot get rid of Mason Raymond.

May Ray is a perimeter forward with speed and some skill. I remember watching a play during the Phoenix game tonight where he skates quickly into the zone with the puck, stops, and pivots to his right in order to make a pass to another forward.

The guy simply doesn't play an aggressive game to skate, and attack the net. He goes for the perimeter play.

Still shaking my head at coach AV for putting this "spin o rama" dud in the shootout. That move is so predictable.

Hodgson was dearly missed in the shootout.

Kassian played well, given that he travelled far away from Buffalo. He had five hits, made good passes. -did take some penalties but didn't cost the team any power play goals against them.

[cliffhanger33]

Seems like AV trusted him enough to put him on Kes' line today for a couple of minutes

[b0unce. [?]]

raymond is just straight weak. doesn't check, can't carry the puck past the offensive zone line, blows a tire at least 20 times a game and weak along the boards.

so at the end of the day... he's got speed. cool beans.

[spideyv2]

lol my old man says we need players like Raymond on the team because, "his speed creates several chances for us." Too bad being a perimeter player doesn't

[jeedee]

lol my old man says we need players like Raymond on the team because, "his speed creates several chances for us."

Its true....2 years ago. :lol

[Verdasco]

It is clear to many people why the Canucks cannot get rid of Mason Raymond.

May Ray is a perimeter forward with speed and some skill. I remember watching a play during the Phoenix game tonight where he skates quickly into the zone with the puck, stops, and pivots to his right in order to make a pass to another forward.

The guy simply doesn't play an aggressive game to skate, and attack the net. He goes for the perimeter play.

Still shaking my head at coach AV for putting this "spin o rama" dud in the shootout. That move is so predictable.

Hodgson was dearly missed in the shootout.

Kassian played well, given that he travelled far away from Buffalo. He had five hits, made good passes. -did take some penalties but didn't cost the team any power play goals against them.


even though the spin-o-rama is predictable, it is hard to stop. It was just poorly executed.

[6thGear.]

It is clear to many people why the Canucks cannot get rid of Mason Raymond.

May Ray is a perimeter forward with speed and some skill. I remember watching a play during the Phoenix game tonight where he skates quickly into the zone with the puck, stops, and pivots to his right in order to make a pass to another forward.

The guy simply doesn't play an aggressive game to skate, and attack the net. He goes for the perimeter play.

Still shaking my head at coach AV for putting this "spin o rama" dud in the shootout. That move is so predictable.

Hodgson was dearly missed in the shootout.

Kassian played well, given that he travelled far away from Buffalo. He had five hits, made good passes. -did take some penalties but didn't cost the team any power play goals against them.

Kassian took 1 penalty...not some penalties

[cliffhanger33]

Off topic but still hilarious LOL
Domi fights with a fan. - YouTube

[AzNightmare]

BAM!!! Where's AznNightmare?

Touché.
While Raymond's spinorama's probably one of the ugliest I've seen (next to Shannon),
it has worked in the past, and a save's a save. I've finally seen it.

Mike Smith the best shootout goalie ever?
(same goalie that stopped the Datsyukian deke)

[b0unce. [?]]

also, todays game was the first penalty in tanev's career! i love tanev. full homo.

[b0unce. [?]]

http://i44.tinypic.com/11jvhfs.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428165_10151345733090613_524410612_23026417_735656 928_n.jpg

[em1.ac]

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bwhahahahahahhaa
That is brilliant
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[Noir]

even though the spin-o-rama is predictable, it is hard to stop. It was just poorly executed.

That it is.

However, what a lot of people may not realize is that the spin-o-rama is a double edged sword. You gotta go in from a wide angle to get the goalie moving from one end to the other; and you gotta go in hard so he has to match your aggression which makes it difficult to stop, as usually most goalies will commit HARD on the lateral movement.

The thing about the spin-o-rama is, when you decide this is what you do, you're committed to it. When you're read properly and the goalie is still in a good position to make a save, you really have little-to-no recourse left. It's like an all-or-nothing kinda deal.

There are some dekers however that make shit up as they go along and that truly are the harder ones to stop; their moves are based on how they read the goalie and how the goalie is reacting to their puck movements; and those guys that CAN make shit up as they go along, by nature don't really have that 1 move they ALWAYS do

[Not really racist!]

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:rofl: :rofl:

[MG1]

Fuck the spinorama..... I wanna see a triple toe loop and then score during a perfect landing.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Fuck the spinorama..... I wanna see a triple toe loop and then score during a perfect landing.
Kenny Wu - YouTube
:denied:

[iwantaskyline]

lol my old man says we need players like Raymond on the team because, "his speed creates several chances for us." Too bad being a perimeter player doesn't

I can't wait until he's gone. :heckno:

[AzNightmare]

Well we all know it's stoppable now.

All Smith did was immediately kick his right skate on to the right post to prevent from
over-sliding across, which kept him centered to keep the left pad spread out in proper position.

Simple, but it worked... and I can tell any of those low spinorama attempts wouldn't have went in.
Even though Raymond butchered the actual spin and "shot" part, it wouldn't have mattered.

I'm now curious whether it was Raymond's execution (like angle or speed coming in) that helped Smith read the play,
or is this something that will revolutionize goaltending technique against the spinorama.
It's not orthodox for goalies to be in so deep to be able to reach that post with their leg,
which is why all the other goalies keep sliding out of position.

This wouldn't work against the spinorama Bertuzzi or Stamkos does (where it goes high), but we'll see if those get stopped eventually.

[b0unce. [?]]

I can't wait until he's gone. :heckno:

i read the first few words and read your comment. i was like "WTF he wants his old man to be gone? that's not cool." and then i re-read the quote :lol

[LsquareD]

Wasn't able to catch the game today. How did Pahlsson and Kassian do?

[UFO]

I'm now curious whether it was Raymond's execution (like angle or speed coming in) that helped Smith read the play,
or is this something that will revolutionize goaltending technique against the spinorama.
It's not orthodox for goalies to be in so deep to be able to reach that post with their leg,
which is why all the other goalies keep sliding out of position.

This wouldn't work against the spinorama Bertuzzi or Stamkos does (where it goes high), but we'll see if those get stopped eventually.

Smith was really deep, the way he played it he left a lot of net up above his right pad blocker side. Mayray obviously had his move set before he hit the puck, but had his head been up he probably could have read that Smith was backing up too quick and opened up the blocker side, and just carried his speed onto his forehand and flip a shot into the top blocker side. Instead he botched his spinorama and didn't put it up high after Smith flopped and extended. Good on Smith for the read and extending out, Mayray essentially shot the puck into his left pad which was in position well before he actually finished his spin and backhand off.

Now if Burrows was shooting #2 with his backhand deke, guaranteed goal :troll: I'm ready for another 3 pages discussing shootouts, lol.

[jeedee]

Wasn't able to catch the game today. How did Pahlsson and Kassiam do?

Catch the Makaveli highlights on youtube if you get the chance!

Kassian had a good game. First shift was with the Sedins, first shot on net was almost a goal, 5 hits, protects the puck well, MUCH better skater than Cody, AV even put him out in OT with Higgins.
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[civicyvr]

Wasn't able to catch the game today. How did Pahlsson and Kassian do?

Yeah, same. Shift work sucks. So did the team play well? Caught the Maka highlights but can't really tell. Sounds like Schneids did on radio.

[civicyvr]

Catch the Makaveli highlights on youtube if you get the chance!

Kassian had a good game. First shift was with the Sedins, first shot on net was almost a goal, 5 hits, protects the puck well, MUCH better skater than Cody, AV even put him out in OT with Higgins.
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Oh, just saw your post after I posted. Thanks. Good to know Kass looks good. How about Pahlsson?

[jeedee]

Oh, just saw your post after I posted. Thanks. Good to know Kass looks good. How about Pahlsson?

He's the same old Sammy Pahlsson (no pun intended lol) and was great defensively. He even managed to create a scoring chance.

I honestly focused more on Kassian so I don't have much to say about Pahlsson lol
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[kristianhay]

^

Pahlsson was solid defensively, broke up plays when he needed to, almost helped get a greasy goal. For a shutdown line, Higgins - Pahlsson - Hansen played a lot more in the offensive zone than one would think.

Also, for anyone curious, seems that this is how faceoffs will be looking from now on, based on the game against Phoenix. Should open up more opportunities for the second line to produce.

Hank - 10 Ozone 0 Dzone
Kesler - 10 Ozone 6 Dzone
Pahlsson - 0 Ozone 5 Dzone
Malhotra - 0 Ozone 8 Dzone
Lapierre - 1 Ozone 3 Dzone

Compared to say, the game against Dallas.

Hank - 6 Ozone 1 Dzone
Kesler - 4 Ozone 9 Dzone
Hodgson - 3 Ozone 3 Dzone
Malhotra - 0 Ozone 6 Dzone
Lapierre - 0 Ozone 3 Dzone

And maybe we should get Kassian to try the spinorama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QI4FetfPg

:troll:

[SumAznGuy]

Well we all know it's stoppable now.

All Smith did was immediately kick his right skate on to the right post to prevent from
over-sliding across, which kept him centered to keep the left pad spread out in proper position.

Simple, but it worked... and I can tell any of those low spinorama attempts wouldn't have went in.
Even though Raymond butchered the actual spin and "shot" part, it wouldn't have mattered.

I'm now curious whether it was Raymond's execution (like angle or speed coming in) that helped Smith read the play,
or is this something that will revolutionize goaltending technique against the spinorama.
It's not orthodox for goalies to be in so deep to be able to reach that post with their leg,
which is why all the other goalies keep sliding out of position.

This wouldn't work against the spinorama Bertuzzi or Stamkos does (where it goes high), but we'll see if those get stopped eventually.

Dude, what the heck are you talking about revolutionizing goaltending technique? :heckno:

Mike Smith took a chance. Heck, we all guessed spinorama before MayRay started skating.
Mike Smith was thinking spinorama as soon as MayRay went wide right and was pretty deep in the net. If MayRay had his head up, a quick shot 5 hole or top corners may have resulted in a goal

Same thing with Edler. Every shootout attempt from him has been a quick shot. Other than coming in slightly to the right instead of left, this attempt was no different than all the rest.

[411ken]

Great to see Kassian have a pretty good game.. He's got good speed for a power forward... strong as hell with/without the puck on the boards and has good IQ for the game. so I think it's just a matter of time for him to get used to the system and make an impact :D

Then everyone will be on the kassian train of pain


btw. I wonder if CoHo will play with Vanek/Pomm.. CoHo's first test tonight would then be the Getzlaf/Perry/Ryan line :D