[HonestTea]

Bring on the draft and free-agency talk!

2011 FA's and RFA's list:
http://nhlnumbers.com/free_agents?team=&position=&status=&order=&year=2012

2011 Top 30 UFA's:
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/freeagents/top30.html

Courtesy of jeedee

[Eatman]

you serious..... already??

[Grandmaster TSE]

its never too early to start talking about next season of hockey

[HonestTea]

Entry Draft starts in less than 10 days and Free Agency starts less than 20 days away :)

[RiceIntegraRS]

maybe this thread should be started by the guy that posted the most in the last thread, and that would be spoon.ek9

plus shouldnt we wait atleast till after the awards, cause thats still the 10/11 season

[EmperorIS]

I'll start with the classics....

Trade Luongo :troll:

[Not really racist!]

inb4 thread lock??

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Wouldn't mind signing a veteran winger that's strong in the playoffs...Erik Cole? I like the grit of Scottie Upshall too. We gotta re-sign Juice though.

[Vansterdam]

too soon or what?

[chun]

Man, the 2011 season, what a riot

... too soon?

[- kT]

never too soon

[HonestTea]

We gotta look forward!

[falcon]

Roloson? UFA this year...

http://www.tfpmedia.com/tfpsite/mug/dwayne_roloson.jpg

[Not really racist!]

:troll: or no :troll:?

[Eatman]

maybe this thread should be started by the guy that posted the most in the last thread, and that would be spoon.ek9

plus shouldnt we wait atleast till after the awards, cause thats still the 10/11 season

really? i figured it would have been 90blkcivic.....................MG1

[Hondaracer]

first page holmes

[shawn79]

probably just want props for starting new thread :troll:

[Iceman_2K]

Just because he's UFA doesn't mean you go and grab him. He's gotta fit on the team and fit in the locker room. As well, the Canucks have a a development/succession plan in place for pushing players up. Would Rolofson fit in the organization's plans? Keep in mind, you don't build a team like you build a dream team for a hockey pool.

Roloson? UFA this year...

http://www.tfpmedia.com/tfpsite/mug/dwayne_roloson.jpg

[Vansterdam]

^ to late for that


FIRST PAGE BITCHES!!! :troll:

[shawn79]

wouldnt mind seeing simon gagne micheal ryder or

parise :troll:

didnt aqualini wanted nonis to aquire brad richards but he didnt want to trade edler or whatever few years back?

[jeedee]

inb42ndpage :fullofwin:

[Iceman_2K]

Do we need more wingers? Or can we develop players from the center forward position into wingers? If you look at the team roster that played the last game of the year, we had barely any defencemen left. I would think that from a planning point of view, we'd need to have more experienced defence men to keep up that depth that we had.

Wouldn't mind signing a veteran winger that's strong in the playoffs...Erik Cole? I like the grit of Scottie Upshall too. We gotta re-sign Juice though.

[Ch28]

in on 1

pending Stanley Cup Championship history making thread right here

[PornMaster]

Ok cool we got awesome defence depth if we resign everyone..
Issue in the playoffs was offence...

[Vansterdam]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIESKA

[jeedee]

Jordan Schroeder on a line with Kesler anyone? :fullofwin:

[Iceman_2K]

With the team making the playoffs these last few years, i don't see why they wouldn't sooner or later. Its a matter of going back and seeing what holes need to filled in, and what condition the team was at when they finished.

[TypeRNammer]

inb42ndpage :fullofwin:

:fuuuuu: I'm post #26 :(

EDIT: Well #28 now :(

[Iceman_2K]

Resigning everyone would be a pretty hard task....we're bound to lose one or two. The issue in the playoffs wasn't really offence, it was defence. By the time the finals ended, we barely had defence left. The lack of production in the last series against Boston isn't indicative of production through out the entire playoffs.

Ok cool we got awesome defence depth if we resign everyone..
Issue in the playoffs was offence...

[jeedee]

Resigning everyone would be a pretty hard task....we're bound to lose one or two. The issue in the playoffs wasn't really offence, it was defence. By the time the finals ended, we barely had defence left. The lack of production in the last series against Boston isn't indicative of production through out the entire playoffs.

I don't necessarily think the issue was with our defence...it was just bad timing with the injuries. If we had a healthy lineup including Samuelsson, Hamhuis and Raymond, I would say the outcome of the finals would be different.

[Iceman_2K]

If we had the same lineup starting the playoffs ending the playoffs, history would have been different. We were steam rolling over teams, and one by one, the injuries took its toll.

I think we need the same depth as this year or more for the defence men. Injuries are a reality in the playoffs, and having to play an estimated 28 games to touch the cup, I think we need to tweak the lineup for that kind of duration of play.

[spoon.ek9]

maybe this thread should be started by the guy that posted the most in the last thread, and that would be spoon.ek9

plus shouldnt we wait atleast till after the awards, cause thats still the 10/11 season

haha i could always start a new one and request this one gets shut down ;)

but nah, s'all good unless other mods disagree.

[Iceman_2K]

It would be funny that this thread gets a several hundred pages before the preseason begins...

[krazynuck]

2012 Stanley Cup Finals Odds to Win – 2012 Stanley Cup Finals Future Odds

Vancouver Canucks 5/1

Boston Bruins 8/1

Washington Capitals 17/2

Philadelphia Flyers 9/1

Pittsburgh Penguins 9/1

San Jose Sharks 9/1

Detroit Red Wings 12/1

Tampa Bay Lightning 12/1

Chicago Blackhawks 15/1

Los Angeles Kings 16/1

Anaheim Ducks 22/1

Montreal Canadiens 22/1

Buffalo Sabres 25/1

Nashville Predators 25/1

New Jersey Devils 30/1

Phoenix Coyotes 35/1

Calgary Flames 35/1

Carolina Hurricanes 35/1

Dallas Stars 35/1

New York Rangers 35/1

St. Louis Blues 45/1

Toronto Maple Leafs 60/1

Ottawa Senators 60/1

Colorado Avalanche 65/1

Edmonton Oilers 70/1

Minnesota Wild 70/1

New York Islanders 70/1

Winnipeg 80/1

Columbus Blue Jackets 90/1

Florida Panthers 125/1

our odds this year...err last year was 3/1....

http://www.thespread.com/nhl-articles/061611-2012-nhl-stanley-cup-finals-odds-to-win-canucks-favored

[nosaj]

lol i was still reading the 10/11 at work today and had a few pages left...and now the 11/12 thread is already here...

anyway....i think we have a pretty bright future and a very high chance to get back in the finals again :)

GO CANUCKS GO!!

[Bonka]

I don't necessarily think the issue was with our defence...it was just bad timing with the injuries. If we had a healthy lineup including Samuelsson, Hamhuis and Raymond, I would say the outcome of the finals would be different.

This.

Winning the cup requires a lot of good luck with avoiding injuries. Sometimes you overcome it, sometimes you don't.

It is so much better reading up on the Canucks here vs. CDC. Bunch of tools over there with their nonsensical jabber.

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Do we need more wingers? Or can we develop players from the center forward position into wingers? If you look at the team roster that played the last game of the year, we had barely any defencemen left. I would think that from a planning point of view, we'd need to have more experienced defence men to keep up that depth that we had.

I would hope Hodgson will be put at least on the 3rd line as a winger for Malholtra. However, I'm not just looking for scoring from a guy like Cole or Upshall. When you watch them play, night in and night out, these guys bring it on the ice with their physical play and they win board battles, something we lost in the SCF. That's something that you can't see on the stat sheet, because honestly, 50 points from Samuelsson looks great on paper, but I'd rather have someone that can hit and forecheck well. Also, I look at leadership qualities...both Cole and Upshall are great locker room guys and are vocal.

As far as d-men go, if we can lock up Bieksa and assuming Ballard sticks around, we need a 6th and 7th d-man. Maybe Salo takes a hometown discount for one more year and we sign another veteran looking to make a cup-run again.

[AWDTurboLuvr]

I don't necessarily think the issue was with our defence...it was just bad timing with the injuries. If we had a healthy lineup including Samuelsson, Hamhuis and Raymond, I would say the outcome of the finals would be different.

However, Raymond before he was hurt, wasn't really scoring. Yes he was healthy, but he had a cold season throughout. He's just gonna be one of those streaky guys I think.

[Riddle]

next year is the year. :)

[Vale46Rossi]

Subbed for gonna be another great season!!!!!!!!!

[spoon.ek9]

i truly hope hodgson can be put into our line up on a consistent basis to develop his confidence as a regular NHL player. however, as long as AV is around i highly doubt this will ever come to fruition. assuming lappy doesn't stick around, i wouldn't mind seeing hodgson achoring the 4th line centre role while getting chances to move up the roster as necessary.

tanner glass was the only stable 4th line player all year long (other than his injury). it was clear that we again had no 4th line that could contribute significantly in the playoffs. i do however like what we saw from oreo. glass-hodgson-oreskovich for 11/12?

[ShyGuy]

Yah I really don't think we need to make too many changes to our lineup. It was the timing of our injuries that got to us. I personally think the new additions of Higgins and Lappierre were great. Now all we need is a more skilled player to play with Kes.

[shawn79]

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets.jpg

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http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets10.jpg

[nosaj]

If we had the same lineup starting the playoffs ending the playoffs, history would have been different. We were steam rolling over teams, and one by one, the injuries took its toll.

I think we need the same depth as this year or more for the defence men. Injuries are a reality in the playoffs, and having to play an estimated 28 games to touch the cup, I think we need to tweak the lineup for that kind of duration of play.

yeah totally man....i don't really recall any of our dman going offensive in the last round like what they had been doing through out the whole finals...without danny, kevin didnt wanna go all offensive. ehrhoff with a fucked up shoulder couldnt even shoot properly....and poor elder could barely hold his stick with the broken fingers :(

i have a feeling salo is gonna be let go...kinda sad but i guess it would be better for the team :/

[jeedee]

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets1.jpg

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http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets7.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets1.jpg

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http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets5.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets9.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets8.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets10.jpg

Is this confirmed or leaked? Reminds me alot of the Windsor Spitfires logo.

[shawn79]

not sure but looks like Columbus blue jackets

[lacubrious1]

I will be very happy when I hear news that Bieksa Has Signed with us. Make it Happen Gillis.

[nosaj]

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae234/gobombersgo1/logojets.jpg

this logo seems a bit too busy imo

[shawn79]

Here's more:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eDnnKCnD01Y/TfhjS9uJOlI/AAAAAAAAAOY/qroa3w4-EpY/s1600/Winnipeg_Jets_Brand_5.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BbpmiCPMp6w/TfhjngEvAUI/AAAAAAAAAOg/uB3bP7G5ABk/s640/Winnipeg_Jets_Brand_7.png

http://www.winnipegjets.info/

Team USA color :lol:

[winson604]

its never too early to start talking about next season of hockey

That's the crazy thing about hockey isn't it. Preseason + regular season + playoffs go from Sept - June. This is followed immediately by the draft + off. Of course off season talks right after. Can't wait till next year already.

[Iceman_2K]

Hodgson's been injured quite a bit since being drafted by Vancouver, however, playing in the AHL he's racked up some good numbers. Gotta remember, the current Canucks organization has a succession program in place where they do lots of exposure for up and coming players instead of throwing them into the game and let them sink or swim. I can see Cody fighting for a spot on the team next season, but anchoring a role would depend on how's been doing with the Canucks program. Remember, we drafted Bieksa in 2001....look at how long it took to develop....

i truly hope hodgson can be put into our line up on a consistent basis to develop his confidence as a regular NHL player. however, as long as AV is around i highly doubt this will ever come to fruition. assuming lappy doesn't stick around, i wouldn't mind seeing hodgson achoring the 4th line centre role while getting chances to move up the roster as necessary.

tanner glass was the only stable 4th line player all year long (other than his injury). it was clear that we again had no 4th line that could contribute significantly in the playoffs. i do however like what we saw from oreo. glass-hodgson-oreskovich for 11/12?

[jigga250]

our odds this year...err last year was 3/1....

http://www.thespread.com/nhl-articles/061611-2012-nhl-stanley-cup-finals-odds-to-win-canucks-favored


Thats not true, the Nucks odds were 7:1 at the start of the season. 3:1 was start of the playoffs.

Our odds are actually better this year.:fuckyea:

[Iceman_2K]

I think Higgins by far is the most underrated of the additions we got.

Yah I really don't think we need to make too many changes to our lineup. It was the timing of our injuries that got to us. I personally think the new additions of Higgins and Lappierre were great. Now all we need is a more skilled player to play with Kes.

[platinum300]

What the 'Nucks are missing are some power forwards.

[RRxtar]

Higgins was a good pick up. I wasnt sold on him based on his recent history but hes a solid 3rd line winger I think. Not 2nd line caliber tho. I really hope Lappy is back next year.


Anyone really wish AV tried a line of Hansen - Kesler - Burrows just to get something going in game 6 or 7??

[Ikkaku]

^ reunion of our awesome shut down line? fuck yeah! too bad AV didn't seem to want to try anything new and just watched it slip away while chewing his gum

[Iceman_2K]

Maybe its time to bring up Shirokov and see if he can fit in the 4th line.

What the 'Nucks are missing are some power forwards.

[highfive]

Joel Ward, Higgins, and Kopecky would be on my top list for fowards.

[Tim Budong]

I dont even know where to begin with CoHo
The promise of him being a superstar just doesn't seem like its gonna be with Vancouver.

Like others have said, if he's willing to play wing with Kes and Mace, probably. but he's got a lot to learn to play on that line. QUICK TO THE BACKCHECK. thats something he's gotta do to crack that top 6

[Iceman_2K]

Thats assuming Joel Ward doesn't get resigned by Nashville. Hope Kopecky wants to leave Chicago.

Joel Ward, Higgins, and Kopecky would be on my top list for fowards.

[RRxtar]

CoHo had half a season in the AHL and a handfull of games in the big league after missing like 2 years with back problems. you cant do anything with back problems, not even work out. remember how long it took Kesler to break out? not saying CoHo is the same kind of player as Kes, but give him another year. he showed signs of that hockey sense we saw in the Jrs and have been promised about. he just needs to get his speed up. he improved a ton over in the short time he was up

[murd0c]

My first post!!!! Awe shit its on we are going to win the cup :troll:

[Iceman_2K]

CoHo needs to chill and stick with the program. The guy was drafted in 2008 - guys like Edler and Hansen were drafted in 2004 and we started seeing their play in the 2009-2010. CoHo's got a few more years before he's gonna see regular lineup work, assuming he doesn't go off to another team.

I dont even know where to begin with CoHo
The promise of him being a superstar just doesn't seem like its gonna be with Vancouver.

Like others have said, if he's willing to play wing with Kes and Mace, probably. but he's got a lot to learn to play on that line. QUICK TO THE BACKCHECK. thats something he's gotta do to crack that top 6

[Iceman_2K]

I think he needs a few more years to mature and learn. Having him come up once in a while to see what the big guys are doing is all part of the process, but he's gotta accept that its part of the process.

CoHo had half a season in the AHL and a handfull of games in the big league after missing like 2 years with back problems. you cant do anything with back problems, not even work out. remember how long it took Kesler to break out? not saying CoHo is the same kind of player as Kes, but give him another year. he showed signs of that hockey sense we saw in the Jrs and have been promised about. he just needs to get his speed up. he improved a ton over in the short time he was up

[spideyv2]

i truly hope hodgson can be put into our line up on a consistent basis to develop his confidence as a regular NHL player. however, as long as AV is around i highly doubt this will ever come to fruition. assuming lappy doesn't stick around, i wouldn't mind seeing hodgson achoring the 4th line centre role while getting chances to move up the roster as necessary.

tanner glass was the only stable 4th line player all year long (other than his injury). it was clear that we again had no 4th line that could contribute significantly in the playoffs. i do however like what we saw from oreo. glass-hodgson-oreskovich for 11/12?

I just don't see any room for Hodgson on our roster. He's not a 4th line player, and playing him on the 4th line would just kill his development.
I feel bad for the kid

[sell_item_604]

get brad richards

[spideyv2]

IIRC, the blackhawks were pretty lucky with injuries last year. Didn't they have a full roster for the finals?

[Iceman_2K]

Why would you feel bad for him? Its not like he's being benched...he's just playing in the AHL to develop him as a player..if a recent draft like CoHo should be playing, so should Jordan Shroeder, and Sergei Shirokov should have been in our lineup years ago.

I just don't see any room for Hodgson on our roster. He's not a 4th line player, and playing him on the 4th line would just kill his development.
I feel bad for the kid

[Iceman_2K]

Not sure - is it posted online anywhere? Would be interesting to see, and see how Boston survived in terms of injuries. I think Boston got through the playoffs relatively unscathed, other than Horton.

IIRC, the blackhawks were pretty lucky with injuries last year. Didn't they have a full roster for the finals?

[spideyv2]

It sucks our roster started to deflate during the later part of the playoffs. I hate playing the IF game, but IF we had a full roster, matched up against boston's full roster..there would definitely be a different outcome.

[spideyv2]

Why would you feel bad for him? Its not like he's being benched...he's just playing in the AHL to develop him as a player..if a recent draft like CoHo should be playing, so should Jordan Shroeder, and Sergei Shirokov should have been in our lineup years ago.

Because our Top 3 Centre positions seem to be locked up for the next few years. Especially with Hank and Kesler signed for another 4 years.
Schroeder had a pretty horrible season with Manitoba last year too, hopefully he ends up panning out..

As with Shirokov, I don't see him cracking our line up anytime soon

[fliptuner]

Present!!!

Let's hope Gillis makes some great signings again.

[Iceman_2K]

It'll take the next few years to develop these guys before they can play the Top center positions. Keep in mind, after a player is drafted, its more than 5 years before they're developed enough to really be able to handle the position. CoHo was drafted in 08, and Schroeder in 09. I don't see either coming up and being in the lineup regularly anytime soon. Shirokov, I see him coming up a bit more in the coming years, at least a lot more than CoHo.

Because our Top 3 Centre positions seem to be locked up for the next few years. Especially with Hank and Kesler signed for another 4 years.
Schroeder had a pretty horrible season with Manitoba last year too, hopefully he ends up panning out..

As with Shirokov, I don't see him cracking our line up anytime soon

[spoon.ek9]

do some of you guys not know how to use the multi button or are you just trying to up your # of posts in this thread? :lol

anyways, i really hope CoHo can earn a spot on the roster. it's unfortunate that AV basically through the kid under the bus after his comments regarding CoHo getting second opinions about his back problems. These were second opinions that turned out to be CORRECT by the way. AV never did apologize publicly for this but I sure hope he did in private.

[AzNightmare]

Here's more:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BbpmiCPMp6w/TfhjngEvAUI/AAAAAAAAAOg/uB3bP7G5ABk/s640/Winnipeg_Jets_Brand_7.png

http://www.winnipegjets.info/

Team USA color :lol:

Wow, I like them.

Meh, USA colours... more like going back to what colours they used to be.
Their idea is more of getting their team back than having a new team.
Which is why I don't mind them keeping their Jets name and their old colours.

[spideyv2]

do some of you guys not know how to use the multi button or are you just trying to up your # of posts in this thread? :lol

anyways, i really hope CoHo can earn a spot on the roster. it's unfortunate that AV basically through the kid under the bus after his comments regarding CoHo getting second opinions about his back problems. These were second opinions that turned out to be CORRECT by the way. AV never did apologize publicly for this but I sure hope he did in private.

haha woops, will keep in mind for next time :fullofwin:

[Durrann]

go canucks go!!

[Harvey Specter]

Quote this next year when we make another cup run!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tim Budong]

Being Chinese born,
this makes me proud

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=566121&cmpid=rss-kimelman

[7seven]

Jagr back to NHL?

Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
Spoke with Jaromir Jagr this morning who confirmed his interest in coming back to the NHL. ``There’s a possibility, yes,'' Jagr told me
19 minutes ago

Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
Jagr's agent Petr Svoboda told me Detroit and Montreal, as already reported elsewhere, among teams they've spoken to.

Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
Also spoke with Wings GM Ken Holland who confirmed talks with Jagr camp but this is all preliminary at this point
16 minutes ago

[SkinnyPupp]

The game has changed to suit Jagr, I can't wait to see him back again, maybe in a Caps jersey :fullofwin:

[jackmeister]

well sooner or later we will have to trade cory schneider... doesnt seem like luongo is gonna go anywhere.

who do you think we could get in return?

[Simulated]

i'm excited to see what gillis will do this summer. i hope we can keep most of our guys especially on defense.

[SkinnyPupp]

Do you want them to keep Salo? As much as I like the guy, I think his career needs to end.

Now watch him go get signed by Pittsburgh and win the cup :\

How about Ballard? He's a proven good defenseman, but just doesn't fit into the AV/Bowness system. Can you teach an old dog new tricks? Or should they just write him off and try to unload him?

[SkinnyPupp]

BTW rumor has it we'll find out what Winnipeg's team will be called on Tuesday.. I can't wait :D

[Simulated]

Do you want them to keep Salo? As much as I like the guy, I think his career needs to end.

Now watch him go get signed by Pittsburgh and win the cup :\

How about Ballard? He's a proven good defenseman, but just doesn't fit into the AV/Bowness system. Can you teach an old dog new tricks? Or should they just write him off and try to unload him?

not sure how i feel about having salo back. if he does come back it should be on a 1 year 'i just want to win the cup' discount. i hope to see bieksa and ehrhoff come back and that could happen if salo is not signed or willing to take a significant pay cut.

[Hondaracer]

Salo can stay if he's around 1 mill, he's very serviceable at that price
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[Grandmaster TSE]

Here's more:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eDnnKCnD01Y/TfhjS9uJOlI/AAAAAAAAAOY/qroa3w4-EpY/s1600/Winnipeg_Jets_Brand_5.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BbpmiCPMp6w/TfhjngEvAUI/AAAAAAAAAOg/uB3bP7G5ABk/s640/Winnipeg_Jets_Brand_7.png

http://www.winnipegjets.info/

Team USA color :lol:

i don't mind the logo, but the color scheme needs to be a little different

[Ch28]

Salo can stay if he's around 1 mill, he's very serviceable at that price
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lol :lol

he's been one of our best defenseman over the past several years and you want to pay him $1 mill?

Even Andrew Alberts makes 1.3 mill

[jeedee]

lol :lol

he's been one of our best defenseman over the past several years and you want to pay him $1 mill?

Even Andrew Alberts makes 1.3 mill

Sure he's been one of our best dmen for the past years, but when was the last time he played a full season without being injured?

...Oh wait :troll:

[Simulated]

lol :lol

he's been one of our best defenseman over the past several years and you want to pay him $1 mill?

Even Andrew Alberts makes 1.3 mill

i don't think alberts is coming back anyway. salo can probably still fetch decent money on other teams but at this stage of his career having already been paid millions throughout the years, you gotta be thinking he wants to win more than securing an extra 2 million now.

[spoon.ek9]

i'd love to see ehrhoff and salo back for sure. also, something tells me bieksa isn't going anywhere soon. his chemistry with hamhuis this year was just excellent. i think it's in ballard's best interest if he can get traded to a team that would utilize him more often.

i really hope gillis can work his magic again and find someone to play with kesler. it'd be very nice to have a clowe type player to work with kesler. raymond is out for anywhere between 4-6 months (some have reported 3-4 months). either way, this will free up a little cap space. if we keep lapierre, i don't see any room for coho unless he is converted into a winger. it's unfortunate, but lapierre's poor reputation with the refs is significant and is something that should be discussed by management.

[fsy82]

We need a power forward for kesler. That man is a one man wrecking crew but it caught up with him in the playoffs. He needs someone to shoulder the weight on his line. I have faith in Gillis. He will get it done.

[Ikkaku]

well, Burrows too has a bad reputation with refs, just not as significant as it is for Lapierre lol

[hypediss]

if flyers dont sign bryzgalov i can see ourselves moving schneids for someone like van reimsdyk

but that would mean we lose the best tandem in the league (arguably)

[Mercy]

Jagr with Kesler and Raymond :fullofwin:
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[AWDTurboLuvr]

not sure how i feel about having salo back. if he does come back it should be on a 1 year 'i just want to win the cup' discount. i hope to see bieksa and ehrhoff come back and that could happen if salo is not signed or willing to take a significant pay cut.

I would be extremely surprised to see Ehrhoff back. He will command a huge salary given how shallow the FA pool for offensive d-men are. We can't afford 5+mil for him and then try to sign Bieksa.

Salo on a 1-year term would be good, think of him as your 4th or 5th d-man...not bad to have.

[b0unce. [?]]

Bring us Rick Nash, Gillis! CBJ needs a goalie, we got one. We probably need to throw in another guy in that deal and maybe a prospect, but i'd do it.

[shawn79]

Kesler and jagr too good to be true
Anyone else agree kesler / parise are the best american forward right now for cracking 2014 team usa?
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[krazynuck]

;7477476']Bring us Rick Nash, Gillis! CBJ needs a goalie, we got one. We probably need to throw in another guy in that deal and maybe a prospect, but i'd do it.

that would be great, maybe throw in ballard....if we could trade to philly maybe we could get richards :fullofwin:

[krazynuck]

Kesler and jagr too good to be true
Anyone else agree kesler / parise are the best american forward right now for cracking 2014 team usa?
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i would agree but I also think that Kane could easily be interchangeable for parise

[Tim Budong]

Jgar to backcheck? bwahhah

at this point..Juice>Hoff

[falcon]

I think the best development for Hodgsen would be to throw him on Kes' line as a winger now and then but we know that's never going to happen.

[spoon.ek9]

In Gillis we trust. I have faith he will find what we need!

[falcon]

I agree. He has a good head on his shoulders and knows what's best for the team. I hope he scoops a few this offseason... piss a few more nuck haters off a bit :P.

[invader]

RS Hockey pool?

[jeedee]

Count me in!

[spideyv2]

im down

[invader]

whoever made the yahoo one last year has all the settings for scoring etc.

[Harvey Specter]

I bet you guys Jagr will end up with the Pens.

[jeedee]

I bet you guys Jagr will end up with the Pens.

Accepted.

My bet is Jagr stays in the KHL just like how he :troll: 'd Edmonton that he was gonna sign with them last year :lol

[krazynuck]

Vancouver Canucks defenceman Dan Hamhuis will have surgery early next week and may not be ready for the start of training camp, while fellow blueliner Christian Ehrhoff will avoid going under the knife.

Hamhuis left Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final early in the second period following a hip check from Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic. It was later discovered that Hamhuis suffered a sports hernia, groin and lower abdomen injury.

It is not known exactly what surgical procedure will be required until doctors can have a closer look at the injury.

Hamhuis missed 18 games during the regular season with two separate concussions. He appeared in 19 post-season games for the Canucks, recording one goal and five assists and averaged 22:40 of ice time per game.

Ehrhoff will not require surgery to repair a shoulder injury he suffered in Game 3 of the Western Conference Final against the San Jose Sharks, instead, he's been told to take two-to-three weeks of rest.

The 28-year-old from Moers, Germany, was minus-13 with two goals and 10 assists in the playoffs.

Hamhuis and Ehrhoff are believed to be just two of a long list of Canucks players who were playing through some sort of injury.

There was speculation that Ryan Kesler and Henrik Sedin played hurt, but the team wouldn't confirm their injuries. Defenceman Alex Edler acknowledged he was playing Game 7 with a pair of broken fingers, while forward Chris Higgins reportedly played with a broken foot suffered in the second round.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=369245

[hotshot1]

I think Jagr burned too many bridges in Pittsburgh. I say Detroit because they're the best team out of Pittsburgh, Montreal, NY Rangers - the teams he's rumored to talk to.

[Gh0stRider]

Jagr? for real?

[sliq]

Trade lu, keep cory more cap space

[beanzzz]

Sorry if its a repost.


Bieksa willing to take pay cut to stick with Canucks

Kevin Bieksa was a finance major and knows money and the value it represents. He also values loyalty and the degree that has been afforded by the Vancouver Canucks appears to be making one postseason discussion moot.

The unrestricted free agent is expected sign a contract extension with the Presidents' Trophy winners because his play has dictated that consideration. And he's willing take a discount, too.

That's not music to the ears of any agent and Kurt Overhardt refused to discuss contract negotiations because Bieksa would fetch more on the open market. But the blueliner didn't sound like that's the road he wants to travel because less money may mean more long-term happiness and success.

"I think everybody takes less to be play here," the 30-year-old Bieksa said Friday. "It's such a great organization that you want to be here. It's the culture. It's like Detroit. If you want to win, you take less. It's a great team and a great one for a long time and you want to be a part of that. The bonus is the core guys I've grown up and the strong friendships. That factors into the decision-making process.

"There's no need to draw anything out. I'm pretty optimistic we can reach an agreement."

As for other UFA defencemen, the same will likely occur with Sami Salo. But where Christian Ehrhoff slots into salary-cap considerations may be the only true mystery, unless you want to debate how well Dan Hamhuis recovers from offseason abdominal surgery and if Keith Ballard can emerge from the doghouse. Or if Andrew Alberts is coming back in a depth role.

As for Bieksa, he made it clear that his intention is to sign a long-term extension at a reasonable raise from the $3.75 million US he earned for a 22-point, relatively injury-free 66-game season. He was also a team-best plus-32 had 10 postseason points and was a plus-6.

Canucks general manager Mike Gillis was reluctant to discuss contract discussions with Bieksa and Ehrhoff but also indicated interest in bringing Salo back. Free agency commences July 1 and the Canucks have 13 players signed for next season at $45.6 million and the cap ceiling could to rise to $63.5 million.

"We're intending to keep this team intact with the core assets we have and that's what I intend to do," said Gillis. "Right now, I'm very confident [in Bieksa, Ehrhoff] but we just ended and I didn't talk to any player during the season about his contract because we didn't want it to become a distraction and feel like they're being treated differently — Sami Salo included. We now have enough time in my world to get it done."

Salo, 36, recovered from an offseason Achilles rupture and played well down the stretch and especially in the postseason. He earned $3.5 million this season and is eager to return and willing to take less to do that. It might have to be at half the salary after seven points in 27 regular-season games and five playoff points that included three goals.

"Yes, for sure," he said. "It's the latter part of my career. It's a good chance to repeat and with what happened, it's a perfect fit for me."

Ehrhoff, 28, is banking on 50 regular-season points as being the launching pad for a considerable raise on the $3.1 million he earned this season. He had a dozen postseason points and a team-worst minus-13 rating, but was slowed by a left shoulder injury in the final that requires rest and not surgery.

"I just want something that's fair," he said. "If I end up staying, it's natural to come their way a bit. It's just meeting at the right point. I like the group and like where the team is going and we're going to be very close for years and I'd definitely like to be part of it."

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/Bieksa+willing+take+stick+with+Canucks/4966806/story.html#ixzz1Pa30tk7U

[Vansterdam]

sooo whos at game 8 tonight?

:troll:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/tix/2445540894.html

[d1]

Remember bieksa's last contract? He had one good year before he was signed to a big contract. After the signing he was either injured or played like shit - it would be risky to sign him to big money imo. If he re-signs at his current salary I'll be happy.

[Ronin]

Making an important point from the old thread here. I'll quote for context.

Thomas' cap hit is for the next 2-3 years, Luu's cap hit is for 10 more years, at 5.3million. you think in 5 years he's going to be worth 5.3million?
sorry i disagree, i've never really been a Luongo fan, of course i see that he's a great goalie, but his mental strength is as good as a 5 year old trying to hold out on candy, sometimes when we're losing 3-0 he closes the door and sometimes he let's in 5 soft ones.

No bagging on him, but that contract he signed? fuck that.

It's not as bad as you think, especially when you think of hockey economics.

But we can't give up on Lu at this point. No matter what, he's a top 3 NHL goaltender and they're not exactly growing on trees. Sure, we might've won if we had Tim Thomas in net instead but he is also a Vezina candidate. All things considered, we could've won with 3 goalies of the 30 starters in the league. Lu got us to game 7...we might've fallen shorter with someone else in net. Look at Philly and tell me that team isn't as good as the Canucks...but they had zilch for goaltending and got fucking swept.

Luongo is an asset. There may be one or two that are better but we could do a whole lot worse. Do we really want to go through the goalie graveyard era again where it's a revolving door in goal?

His contract gets better as the years go by as he makes less and less each year. Right now he is a $10m goaltender but when he becomes a $5m goaltender if his skills decline, we're only really paying him $5m under the cap. Aquaman doesn't give two fucks about the actual money. His contract REALLY tails off near the end of his career. If he is still awesome at 40, that's great. If not, then his contract makes him VERY tradeable.

Why? Because of the New York Islanders, Florida Panthers, Nashville Predators and other teams that spend the cap floor. In the last 3 years of Luongo's contract, he makes under $2m but still has a cap hit of $5.333m. Trust me, that is gold to people like the owners of cap floor teams. They only really pay $1-1.6m but they get a valuable contract that allows them to reach the league minimum. These teams are looking for older, servicable and experienced players that can push young prospects that are most likely on their teams. Look at Dwayne Roloson in NYI. Remember, Lu's contract has out clauses on both sides. His NTC is limited. This contract is the best thing for the franchise right now.

Gillis and Gilman have shown us nothing but awesomeness since they've been here, fitting this awesome of a team under the salary cap. They got all our stars to managable contracts. Ask any GM in the league if they would take the Sedins, Kes or Burr's contracts. If you REALLY look at it, other than this year with the $10m bonus payday, Lu took a bit of a paycut from his previous contract. Ask any GM in the league if they would take Lu in a trade right now...even Boston would be interested.

Those two are geniuses...every decision seems to be made out of logic and math. I won't doubt them now. Watch them work magic on the Juice and Hoff contracts and we will all bow down, screaming that we aren't worthy. I have to believe they're smarter than we are and have already thought this through more than I have.

TL;DR: Lu's contract is awesome. You aren't looking at the big picture, dummy.

[Hondaracer]

we should have an actual hockey pool, meet up somewhere have like 20 people and draft 10 players or somthing

i hate fantasy

[Ronin]

How is that different from doing it online other than the face-to-face interaction part that most people on the webernets are not going to want to do...

[RiceIntegraRS]

Sedin(6.1M) - Sedin(6.1M) - Burrows(2.0M)
Raymond(2.55M) - Kesler(5.0M) - Samuelsson(2.5M)
Higgins(1.5M) - Malhotra(2.5M) - Hansen(1.0M)
Torres(1.0M) - Lapierre(1.0M) - Glass(0.7M)

Hamhuis(4.5M) - Bieksa(4.5M)
Edler(3.25M) - Ehrhoff(4.5M)
Salo(2.0M) - Rome(0.75M)

Luongo(5.33M)
Schneider(0.9M)

That puts us at 57.7Million. Possibly make a trade during the deadline for a bonafide playoff performer.

[shawn79]

sedin sedin burrows
gagne kesler jagr
torres lahotra hansen
higgsin lapierre oreo

bieksa hamhuis
weber jovo
ehrhoff edler

ballard scheoder (played with colin wilson to get gold for team usa U20)+ 1st round pick for weber rfa negotion rights :troll:

[Ronin]

No way Hoff takes $4.5. He scored 50 points. He had like 44 last year. He's 28, which is the verge of defensemen prime, which most hockey experts tell you is later than forward prime. He's almost completely injury free for his entire NHL career and has consistently been a solid all around defenseman that has no edge into the top end of blueline scoring.

No way he takes a $1.4m raise. He'd get $6.5 on the open market easy. The best we should hope for is he takes $5-$5.5,

[DanHibiki]

sedin sedin burrows
gagne kesler jagr
torres lahotra hansen
higgsin lapierre oreo

bieksa hamhuis
weber jovo
ehrhoff edler

ballard scheoder (played with colin wilson to get gold for team usa U20)+ 1st round pick for weber rfa negotion rights :troll:


1) you're gonna have to trade a fuck load of 1st rounders + more to get weber
2) jovo?!?! seriously??? dun think we got cap space for his 7mil. now do i think i can handle his high risk high reward type of play. steady dmen that can play both ends like edler and ehrhoff are my type of players.

[shawn79]

how come everyone think jovo is gonna ask for 6+. Hes UFA
hes 35 he wants the cup that guy probably will accept 3.5 and still be a 40pt physical defencemen with grit

[invader]

I don't think the nux will keep Chris Higgins. He was nowhere near consistent as second line players on other teams.

[DanHibiki]

Higgins will be the scapegoat for 2011/2012 if we keep him. he's inconsistent and hasn't hit 20goals for a long while now.

Ya he had flashes of great play during the playoffs but won't be effective over a long regular season.

Maybe we can trade for him again at the deadline? :troll:

Lappierre I would keep tho.

[invader]

Does anyone have a video of Aqualini throwing F bombs at the media after the game?

[Ronin]

sedin sedin burrows
gagne kesler jagr
torres lahotra hansen
higgsin lapierre oreo

bieksa hamhuis
weber jovo
ehrhoff edler

ballard scheoder (played with colin wilson to get gold for team usa U20)+ 1st round pick for weber rfa negotion rights :troll:

LOL I love that Weber, who will probably win the Norris this year...is on the second pairing and the guy most likely to win a Norris on the Canucks before he turns 30 is playing on the 3rd.

You are amazing.

[Ronin]

Higgins will be the scapegoat for 2011/2012 if we keep him. he's inconsistent and hasn't hit 20goals for a long while now.

Ya he had flashes of great play during the playoffs but won't be effective over a long regular season.

Maybe we can trade for him again at the deadline? :troll:

Lappierre I would keep tho.

Agreed. Higgins is good but not good enough IMO...we need an upgrade there of a skill guy that can play grindy minutes on the 4th line like a Tambelini but better.

Lappy gets resign I hope. Have him play 8-10 minutes as 4th line center and have him beast the fuck out in the playoffs again. He did it for the Habs. I have to believe he can do it again.

[RiceIntegraRS]

No way Hoff takes $4.5. He scored 50 points. He had like 44 last year. He's 28, which is the verge of defensemen prime, which most hockey experts tell you is later than forward prime. He's almost completely injury free for his entire NHL career and has consistently been a solid all around defenseman that has no edge into the top end of blueline scoring.

No way he takes a $1.4m raise. He'd get $6.5 on the open market easy. The best we should hope for is he takes $5-$5.5,

I honestly dont think Ehrhoff can get $6.5 at all. Yes hes a 40-50pt defencemen, but when u play on the highest scoring team in the league and top PP ur gonna rack up points. I dont wanna take anything away from Ehrhoff but im hoping he doesnt pull an Anson Carter here.

Remember, we were only 1 Game away from winning it all, we dont need to make any drastic changes here. Just little tweeks here and there. Im thinking we'd be making that big splash on deadline day so we can make that push for a deep playoff run again so it doesnt hurt us salary cap wise

[Hondaracer]

Neither will get more than hamhuis.
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[tonyzoomzoom]

Neither will get more than hamhuis.
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Erhoff and Bieksa will get way more than that in the open market, esp with so many teams (including the Wings) looking for good D-men. It would be an absolute steal if we can get get both (or even one) at Hammer's rate

[spideyv2]

sedin sedin burrows
gagne kesler jagr
torres lahotra hansen
higgsin lapierre oreo

bieksa hamhuis
weber jovo
ehrhoff edler

ballard scheoder (played with colin wilson to get gold for team usa U20)+ 1st round pick for weber rfa negotion rights :troll:

http://webservice.imagesauce.net/image/616375/400x.jpg

[68style]

how come everything think jovo is gonna ask for 6+. Hes UFA
hes 35 he wants the cup that guy probably will accept 3.5 and still be a 40pt physical defencemen with grit

Have you forgotten so quickly how many times he would be last man back, skate out from behind the net and make a move right in front of the goalie/try to deke out the forechecker and lose control?????? Bieksa does it sometimes and it gives me a damn heart attack... Jovocop is not the answer.

[zonda_s]

Erhoff and Bieksa will get way more than that in the open market, esp with so many teams (including the Wings) looking for good D-men. It would be an absolute steal if we can get get both (or even one) at Hammer's rate

if we keep our core D next year, i think we have a likelihood of making a winning team. if erhoff and bieksa are smart and really want to win the cup, they'll probably stay. sure, it's a hit on their potential earnings, but you can't put a price on winning the cup.

[tonyzoomzoom]

I'm not disagreeing as to them wanting to stay. They probably do and I certainly hope that they do. I was only suggesting that it would still prob take more than Hammer's salary to keep either of them. Closer to $5m would be my guess and that would still be a homer's discount.

[Greenstoner]

thread merged ... welcome myself to next season :D

[b0unce. [?]]

Don't want Jovo.

[Harvey Specter]

So guys do you think teams in the NHL will give the Canucks respect and consider them to be an "elite team" or do we need to win a cup or two before we're considered elite.

[Ch28]

So guys do you think teams in the NHL will give the Canucks respect and consider them to be an "elite team" or do we need to win a cup or two before we're considered elite.

We'll need to win a cup.

You should see the amount of hate our team got throughout the entire playoffs on all the different forums online. It was quite mind blowing.

[SkinnyPupp]

So guys do you think teams in the NHL will give the Canucks respect and consider them to be an "elite team" or do we need to win a cup or two before we're considered elite.
Canucks have had a horrible reputation across the league (and all of sports) since the Griffiths stopped owning the team. It doesn't help that the current owner went on a classless tirade after game 7, and of course the riots.

But the team itself, which is famous for diving and embellishment and classless and stupid acts across all lines (even the goalie), will continue to have a bad rep even if they do with the cup. Hell, especially if they win the cup (but at least then they can say "hey, at least we won the cup!")

But they're our team, so it doesn't matter!

[Harvey Specter]

Yah, I heard about the owner going off and media saying how classless the Canucks were. What exactly happen?

And on the topic of hate, according to some Boston media guy who talked to the team after the cup win, the Boston Bruins said they never hated another team as much as they hated the Canucks for their on and off the ice antics. Yes, they hate the Canucks more than the Habs, lol.

[SkinnyPupp]

IMO they should embrace the reputation. Bring back guys like Ruutu and Cooke and just goon it up for a season! :troll:

[DanHibiki]

what did the owner do/say?

[b0unce. [?]]

Eh the way I see it, Boston just built a team similarly to Anaheim's team in 07.
Big canadian style hard hitting physical team riding a hot goalie in the playoffs. WTB team like that

[Harvey Specter]

Here you go.

Canucks owner vented frustration at losing Stanley Cup to reporters following Game 7

Vancouver’s loss in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals managed to bring out a lot of the worst in everyone. While the lasting memory will be of Canucks fans and local hoodlums who decided that burning the city down and rioting was the right way to grieve after a loss, the ugliness wasn’t just just kept on the outside of Rogers Arena as it turns out.

Canucks owner Francesco Aquilini was in attendance at Game 7 and while that’s a home game for him and not all too surprising, he apparently wasn’t in the greatest of moods following Vancouver’s 4-0 loss to Boston in Game 7. While that much would be understandable, about the last people you’d want to lash out at or near would be the hordes of media who descended upon Vancouver to see the Stanley Cup handed out.

As it turns out, Aquilini missed that day in PR class according to legendary Edmonton Sun writer Terry Jones. Jones’ scathing column dressing down Vancouver for their fans’ antics both in burning the city down and being perhaps some of the least friendly fans on the Internet also took Aquilini to task for being less than cordial.

Like the Canucks, who told us again and again that they’d learned their lessons, Vancouver claimed they’d learned theirs from 1994. Neither learned a thing.

It wasn’t just the idiots who rioted. Reaction from the exceedingly large lunatic fringe of fans from the other side of the mountains was unbelievable via Twitter, email, etc. throughout the playoffs. Rude. Obnoxious. Begging to be blocked. These are the same people who harbour conspiracy theories, who reportedly threw projectiles at Gary Bettman on the ice during the Stanley Cup presentation and one who shouted out while rioting that “this is all Bettman’s fault!”

It ended with Vancouver owner Francesco Aquilini telling multiple members of the media in the Canucks dressing room to go fornicate elsewhere.

Well isn’t that just lovely.

There are many very cool and wonderful Canucks fans to be found out on the Internet and real life. Heck, most of you post here for comments (note: we’re shameless) there’s an obvious disgusting underbelly of fans who bring shame to the rest of the lot. From those who decided to torch downtown Vancouver to those who verbally harangued former Calgary Flames star Theo Fleury via Twitter who had the audacity to say that he didn’t think Roberto Luongo could win them the Stanley Cup this year, the ugly side of fandom was out in force in Vancouver.

With all the disgusting comments thrown Fleury’s way it would ultimately be Fleury who got the last laugh as the Canucks came up short of winning their first Stanley Cup and Luongo would be front and center of the discussion. Life has a funny way of working out that way. Sometimes when you see a fan base take a loss as hard as a Stanley Cup Game 7 can be you feel sympathy for them for being so close to coming out on top only to fall short.

That brand of emotional outpouring was hard to come by in this case because there’s been so many ugly things surrounding this Canucks team and it starts from the top on down with Aquilini being unable to conduct himself as a professional. All of these reactions are inexcusable and it helps make life more miserable for those great fans in Vancouver and around the world who bleed blue and green. For them we feel sorry for for more than just losing their shot at the Stanley Cup. After all, when you’re saddled with such sad individuals as compatriots it makes being a fan that much more difficult.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/16/canucks-owner-vented-frustration-at-losing-stanley-cup-to-reporters-following-game-7/

[jeedee]

1) you're gonna have to trade a fuck load of 1st rounders + more to get weber
2) jovo?!?! seriously??? dun think we got cap space for his 7mil. now do i think i can handle his high risk high reward type of play. steady dmen that can play both ends like edler and ehrhoff are my type of players.

We don't necessarily need to trade our 1st rounders for Weber...there's a reason why we have prospects :troll:

There's no way in hell Jovo is going to get a raise from ANY team. He'll need to take a paycut if he wants to play in the NHL. His days from Vancouver are long gone.. He might get one from the Rangers since their notorious for signing underachieving players to ridiculous contracts :troll:

No way Hoff takes $4.5. He scored 50 points. He had like 44 last year. He's 28, which is the verge of defensemen prime, which most hockey experts tell you is later than forward prime. He's almost completely injury free for his entire NHL career and has consistently been a solid all around defenseman that has no edge into the top end of blueline scoring.

No way he takes a $1.4m raise. He'd get $6.5 on the open market easy. The best we should hope for is he takes $5-$5.5,

Don't forget, Ehrhoff has hinted that he's willing to take a paycut to stay in Vancouver. When you're 1 game away from the holy grail, that experience is something he could use for a new run rather than starting fresh at another franchise.

[stuff99]

Making an important point from the old thread here. I'll quote for context.



It's not as bad as you think, especially when you think of hockey economics.

But we can't give up on Lu at this point. No matter what, he's a top 3 NHL goaltender and they're not exactly growing on trees. Sure, we might've won if we had Tim Thomas in net instead but he is also a Vezina candidate. All things considered, we could've won with 3 goalies of the 30 starters in the league. Lu got us to game 7...we might've fallen shorter with someone else in net. Look at Philly and tell me that team isn't as good as the Canucks...but they had zilch for goaltending and got fucking swept.

Luongo is an asset. There may be one or two that are better but we could do a whole lot worse. Do we really want to go through the goalie graveyard era again where it's a revolving door in goal?

His contract gets better as the years go by as he makes less and less each year. Right now he is a $10m goaltender but when he becomes a $5m goaltender if his skills decline, we're only really paying him $5m under the cap. Aquaman doesn't give two fucks about the actual money. His contract REALLY tails off near the end of his career. If he is still awesome at 40, that's great. If not, then his contract makes him VERY tradeable.

Why? Because of the New York Islanders, Florida Panthers, Nashville Predators and other teams that spend the cap floor. In the last 3 years of Luongo's contract, he makes under $2m but still has a cap hit of $5.333m. Trust me, that is gold to people like the owners of cap floor teams. They only really pay $1-1.6m but they get a valuable contract that allows them to reach the league minimum. These teams are looking for older, servicable and experienced players that can push young prospects that are most likely on their teams. Look at Dwayne Roloson in NYI. Remember, Lu's contract has out clauses on both sides. His NTC is limited. This contract is the best thing for the franchise right now.

Gillis and Gilman have shown us nothing but awesomeness since they've been here, fitting this awesome of a team under the salary cap. They got all our stars to managable contracts. Ask any GM in the league if they would take the Sedins, Kes or Burr's contracts. If you REALLY look at it, other than this year with the $10m bonus payday, Lu took a bit of a paycut from his previous contract. Ask any GM in the league if they would take Lu in a trade right now...even Boston would be interested.

Those two are geniuses...every decision seems to be made out of logic and math. I won't doubt them now. Watch them work magic on the Juice and Hoff contracts and we will all bow down, screaming that we aren't worthy. I have to believe they're smarter than we are and have already thought this through more than I have.

TL;DR: Lu's contract is awesome. You aren't looking at the big picture, dummy.

Ronin, I don't always agree with you but this time you are bang on 100%

Everyone says hes not a $10M goalie. Fuck who gives a shit how much he makes. I only care about the cap hit at $5.33M per year. he will retire or get traded towards the end.

[stuff99]

how come everything think jovo is gonna ask for 6+. Hes UFA
hes 35 he wants the cup that guy probably will accept 3.5 and still be a 40pt physical defencemen with grit

Jovo is so injury prone.

[Hondaracer]

Ronin, I don't always agree with you but this time you are bang on 100%

Everyone says hes not a $10M goalie. Fuck who gives a shit how much he makes. I only care about the cap hit at $5.33M per year. he will retire or get traded towards the end.

I haven't been saying the cap hit is the only thing that matters for the last 3 years :troll:
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[UFO]

I'd like to see Ballard get a fair shot at performing. He doesn't fit the current system overly well but has upside, and style of play isn't a whole different than when we had Jovo, cept Ballard throws better hips :) Remember when Bieksa was ostracized and about as popular as Ballard currently is? Then Hamhuis came along... Play Hammer and Ballard together for half a year and let's revisit this then. I've been tooting Hammer's horn a long time, and if Bieksa earns a nice raise he owes Hammer a good cut.

After a few days, I am getting more and more bothered by AV and his inability to get the team up and going. It's so easy to play the "if I was coach I would do x" game, but AV really did not do anything to get the attention of the team in the finals, and did not try anything to change up the look of the attack when it was clear that the wheels were not all rolling together. What did he do when we started the third period game 7 down 3-0? Nothing. Hey, maybe he had that much faith in the group, that's great. But in hindsight, clearly that faith was misplaced.

Just by the amount of quality looks and chances they had on Thomas early on, but buried each lazy shot into his body/pads helping to fuel Thomas' own confidence, tells me either the coaching staff is not prepping the team well enough on the game plan and opposition or the team has started to tune out just a bit... and it always starts off with just a bit.

[JesseBlue]

I'm pumped next season... I see the last season as something to build up on... I can only speculate whe gillis will do and that is part of the being a fan. One thing that I did enjoy as Torres being on our team and hope that he'll be back next season
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[SkinnyPupp]

Who else hopes that they'll take the opportunity to completely ditch the orca, and just use the stick in rink, and maybe even the Johnny Canuck V as an alternate! :fullofwin:

The company is not even called Orca Bay anymore, it's time to move on.

[DanHibiki]

Who else hopes that they'll take the opportunity to completely ditch the orca, and just use the stick in rink, and maybe even the Johnny Canuck V as an alternate! :fullofwin:

The company is not even called Orca Bay anymore, it's time to move on.

I just got my new jersey so....no.

[Hondaracer]

Who else hopes that they'll take the opportunity to completely ditch the orca, and just use the stick in rink, and maybe even the Johnny Canuck V as an alternate! :fullofwin:

The company is not even called Orca Bay anymore, it's time to move on.

Blue orca will continue to dominate
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[jeedee]

I just got my new jersey so....no.

This :lol

[SkinnyPupp]

http://files.sharenator.com/okay_face_RE_Highest_Rated_Post_Ever-s251x239-156794.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

I think a Johnny Canuck jersey would look pretty sweet as an alternate

[jeedee]

But yeah, I've heard rumors that the stick in rink jersey(s) would become home jerseys next year, and a Johnny Canuck jersey would be alternate(s). I hope they don't cause I got my jersey recently aswell :lol

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5C0VIA8CI/AAAAAAAABnk/lEYDUx3bCz0/s400/Canucks%2BHome.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5C0BNGR7I/AAAAAAAABnc/lypHq5ut7f8/s400/Canucks%2BRoad.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5CzwUIn9I/AAAAAAAABnU/i5wSJzWeI3k/s400/Canucks%2BAlt%2B1.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5Czn0IcyI/AAAAAAAABnM/OEPl9oa11kI/s400/Canucks%2BAlt%2B2.png

Also, made a new avatar for myself. Sounds about right, no? :fuckyea:

[falcon]

how come everyone think jovo is gonna ask for 6+. Hes UFA
hes 35 he wants the cup that guy probably will accept 3.5 and still be a 40pt physical defencemen with grit

That, and given the deep run we had this year and the core group is still intact Vancouver looks mighty tempting for a guy like that.

[sh0n]

As a diehard fan I can't wait for the next season to start. And lets keep that in mind the season starts in 3.5 months!!! Can you imagine - it's the quickest ever.

Draft is next Week
Free Agency is July 1.

I really see our team in the mold of the Detroit Red Wings before Yzerman took his game to the next level and leading the Wings to the Championship. People called him soft, not a big game player, bad captain but it just took some tweaking to the team that pushed them over the hump. This is where I see the Sedins to be this year - I'm hoping they realize they gotta up their game and play with grit, heart and emotion next time they are in the playoffs.

Canucks will be hungry after coming so close to the Cup and they will be ready to win it all next season.

What I see we need.
1. Gotta resign Hoff and Bieksa (either one). If it gets pricey gotta resign Juice and left hoff walk
2. They gotta find Kesler a Wingman. Top 6 PF finisher type that can be interchanged to Sedin line if they are getting run over
3. Line 3 and 4 is fine if they resign 3 out of hansen, torres, lapeirre and higgins.

As long as on paper we are a better team then last year - we'll be fine. Whatever we are missing we can add at the trade deadline.

[SkinnyPupp]

Also came across this one

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XBnu8qGZ8v8/TfaGFvgKXmI/AAAAAAAADfk/GZ5oRp71R8o/s1600/KyleSilagyi-VAN.png

[falcon]

LOL I love that Weber, who will probably win the Norris this year...is on the second pairing and the guy most likely to win a Norris on the Canucks before he turns 30 is playing on the 3rd.

You are amazing.

You can also look at it from the point of view, that rather than having a 1st 2nd and 3rd, you have a 1st, 1st and 1st :fullofwin:

Who says you HAVE to have 3rd line caliber players on your "3rd line"? Stack the team... the cup will be where it belongs next year.

[stuff99]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LBxFmixh70&feature=player_embedded

[SkinnyPupp]

Max Talbot would be a great fit in Vancouver, IMO

[JKam]

The Johnny Canuck logo looks dumb on the jersey. It should stay as an unofficial logo for the canucks. It looks so childish or it looks like it belongs in the AHL. Not an NHL logo imo.

The johnny V looks good on the shoulder though.

[murd0c]

I think im going to get a tattoo of the Johnny Canuck V on my shoulder lol, same size and spot of the shoulder patch.

[shawn79]

if they switch uni's again i hope they dont win the cup!!!

this team has no identification

[Simulated]

i hope they keep the orca. love the logo and the team colors look great!
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[Osaka]

Isn't the Orca they're corporate logo? Which means it'd have to be on the uniform somehow whether it remain crested in the centre or as shoulder patches?
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[Grandmaster TSE]

I think a Johnny Canuck jersey would look pretty sweet as an alternate

i would buy it haha

[- kT]

the orca is sick. hope it stays so i'm not completely forced to get a new jersey over my west coast express orca one

[Derek_N84]

I hope Ballard gets another chance to stick around and prove he can play into AV's system, he seems like a pretty stand up guy with a good attitude. That way I could also keep my Ballard jersey :fullofwin:

Like SkinnyPupp, I like the idea of Max Talbot here. Some veteran presence, plays the body and of course, a cup winner. Someone like him could have really helped the team out during our finals since Sammy was out.

[spoon.ek9]

i actually like the johnny canuck V as a jersey haha. oh well, to each their own.

[hypediss]

i actually liked this johnny canuck render much more than the current one we got http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/101844/new_canucksjersey_potential.jpg

[mako]

^
very aviator-esk theme

[Ronin]

You can also look at it from the point of view, that rather than having a 1st 2nd and 3rd, you have a 1st, 1st and 1st :fullofwin:

Who says you HAVE to have 3rd line caliber players on your "3rd line"? Stack the team... the cup will be where it belongs next year.

For one thing, we will NEVER be able to afford Weber unless we trade Ballard and not re-sign Juice and Hoff. Guaranteed Weber makes at least $6.5m for his next contract. Possibly more. I'm going to guess $10m front end first year like Lu's contract. He is the best all around defenseman in the league.

AND HIS BEARD IS MAGNIFICENT

Also, yes, you can load up but you have to consider the cap. Paying 1st line money for a 3rd liner is stupid. The 3rd line doesn't play as many minutes. You're just wasting money. It's like "Hey, let's sign Sidney Crosby so he'll play on the 3rd line, guys!" What the Canucks have done is the correct approach...look for high-end, roleplaying guys like Manny Malhotra...an "elite" 3rd liner in that he's better than most of the 3rd liners in the league except guys that are 1st liner but have to play less minutes because someone extra awesome is ahead of them (like Jordan Staal).

Or else hey...let's get a team that looks like this, gais!

Sedin-Sedin-Perry
Burrows-Kesler-St. Louis
Toews-Malhotra-Nash
Clutterbuck-Lapierre-Dustin Brown

Weber Keith
Edler Ehrhoff
Bieksa Hamhuis

Luongo
Lundqvist
Rinne

LOOOOOOL

CAP HIT IS ONLY $127 million or something, gais! We'll have to sign Rinne to a two-way as well so we can have him play on the Moose most of the year.

[hypediss]

i was thinking if we trade ballard, dont resign salo

we just miiiiiight squeeze somethign to sign weber


but yea getting weber would mean a big overhaul to our roster

once to get his rights
second to fit him under cap



so most likely, it wont happen - if gillis does make it happen all while making us competitive ... please someone give him the key to the city

[Ronin]

By the way, could you imagine how fucking awful it would be to play against a fourth line of Clutterbuck, Lappy and Dustin Brown? Goddamn shit disturbers but Clutterbuck had 35 points and Brown had 57. Combine that shit with Lappy's troll face powers...BOOOOM MOST ANNOYING LINE EVER.

Getting Weber will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen. Firstly because Nashville would be fucking insane to not resign the best player to ever play for their organization. Secondly, Gillis isn't stupid. To sign Weber, we would need to offer him $7m at least as an offer sheet NSH can't match and THEN we would have to give up FOUR first round picks for him.

It will never happen. It's as likely as us trading for Crosby. We can joke about it but those of you thinking it's even a possibility...I want whatever you're fucking high on.

[b0unce. [?]]

By the way, could you imagine how fucking awful it would be to play against a fourth line of Clutterbuck, Lappy and Dustin Brown? Goddamn shit disturbers but Clutterbuck had 35 points and Brown had 57. Combine that shit with Lappy's troll face powers...BOOOOM MOST ANNOYING LINE EVER.

Getting Weber will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen. Firstly because Nashville would be fucking insane to not resign the best player to ever play for their organization. Secondly, Gillis isn't stupid. To sign Weber, we would need to offer him $7m at least as an offer sheet NSH can't match and THEN we would have to give up FOUR first round picks for him.

It will never happen. It's as likely as us trading for Crosby. We can joke about it but those of you thinking it's even a possibility...I want whatever you're fucking high on.

imo rutuu was the biggest troll canucks ever had :troll:

[Ronin]

Maybe. Ruutu's best moment was when Phaneuf took a fall backwards onto his ass.

But I think I enjoy Lappy on our team more than any other troll face we've ever had.

[b0unce. [?]]

nash is just a fantasy player i'd like to see on our roster :(
i doubt gillis could pull off something like that or find a way to fit his cap lol

[hypediss]

i think we need a rypien with a bit more skill

physical scoring nutcase that goes at it after the whistle?


WOOF WOOF WOOF

[mickz]

But yeah, I've heard rumors that the stick in rink jersey(s) would become home jerseys next year, and a Johnny Canuck jersey would be alternate(s). I hope they don't cause I got my jersey recently aswell :lol

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5C0VIA8CI/AAAAAAAABnk/lEYDUx3bCz0/s400/Canucks%2BHome.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5C0BNGR7I/AAAAAAAABnc/lypHq5ut7f8/s400/Canucks%2BRoad.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5CzwUIn9I/AAAAAAAABnU/i5wSJzWeI3k/s400/Canucks%2BAlt%2B1.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/TS5Czn0IcyI/AAAAAAAABnM/OEPl9oa11kI/s400/Canucks%2BAlt%2B2.png

Also, made a new avatar for myself. Sounds about right, no? :fuckyea:


There are no jersey changes for next year. They will be wearing the same jerseys as this past season minus the 40th Anniversary. The only difference is the back of the jerseys will say "Reebok" instead of the Vector logo.

[highfive]

By the way, could you imagine how fucking awful it would be to play against a fourth line of Clutterbuck, Lappy and Dustin Brown? Goddamn shit disturbers but Clutterbuck had 35 points and Brown had 57. Combine that shit with Lappy's troll face powers...BOOOOM MOST ANNOYING LINE EVER.

Getting Weber will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happen. Firstly because Nashville would be fucking insane to not resign the best player to ever play for their organization. Secondly, Gillis isn't stupid. To sign Weber, we would need to offer him $7m at least as an offer sheet NSH can't match and THEN we would have to give up FOUR first round picks for him.

It will never happen. It's as likely as us trading for Crosby. We can joke about it but those of you thinking it's even a possibility...I want whatever you're fucking high on.

Actually, we can't sign him to an offer sheet anymore.

Bob McKenzie just twittered this.

NSH elects salary arb on Weber and NJD on Parise
Bottom line on Weber/Parise: teams electing salary arb prohibits other teams from putting in offer sheet on the RFAs.

To get either players, we have to wait till after arbitration and if the team doesn't take that offer to sign them, the player becomes an UFA. JP Dumont was like that before he was a predator.

[spideyv2]

Weber isn't coming down here. Nuff said

[Harvey Specter]

I don't think we're going to see any big time signing or trade.

[hypediss]

i was hoping we can get some real gutsy and young dman like bogosian from the thrashers

not sure about that nemore


regardless tho bogosian is a fucking beasssstttt

[Ronin]

So even less chance that Weber could be a Canuck.

Our roster is fine. A little more grit maybe and an upgrade on MayRay for the 2nd line.

[beansbaxter]

i actually liked this johnny canuck render much more than the current one we got http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/101844/new_canucksjersey_potential.jpg

I think this version looks much better as well.

A little mock-up... :D

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z184/blackgn/johnny_canuck-jersey.jpg

[Ronin]

It almost looks...too clean and elegant to be a NHL jersey. I'd buy that as a tshirt though.

[hypediss]

im thinking someone like brooks laich or ville leino could be a good marriage for kes

as for that johnny canuck logo - sometimes i think i would be totally awesome as the shoulder patch

[Ch28]

:lol @ people even entertaining the idea that we'd trade for Shea Weber :lol

[Tim Budong]

Weber will not become a Vancouver Canuck

by putting Weber on arbitration is just a shield

[Grandmaster TSE]

there will always be wild speculation every year

[falcon]

Weber isn't coming down here. Nuff said

After seeing his FB wall post after the "riot"... I doubt it too. He said basically along the lines of "If anyone asks me where I'm from, after today I will never admit to being from BC/Van area" or something along those lines.

[EmperorIS]

anyone watch those gillis press videos on canucks.com? ... did he get punched in the forehead or something ?

[jeedee]

anyone watch those gillis press videos on canucks.com? ... did he get punched in the forehead or something ?

LOL yeah i saw it...looks like Mark Hominick's hematoma :lol

[trancehead]

You guys are delusional if you think we're prying Shea Weber

[spideyv2]

After seeing his FB wall post after the "riot"... I doubt it too. He said basically along the lines of "If anyone asks me where I'm from, after today I will never admit to being from BC/Van area" or something along those lines.

Are those accounts even real? I had Raymond added, but he deleted me for the second time after I called that Ivan Ta kid an attention whore lol :alone:
Tbh, all I see is Yann and Kevin fb tagging eachother and cracking jokes all day..you'd think they have better things to do?

Only signings I see Gillis doing over the summer is adding some grit for the bottom 6, and maybe finding Kesler a good line mate. Barring any injuries, we could be in for another good season.

[snowball]

Go canucks go! I'd like to see Van Riemsdyk play with kesler but no way is philly gonna give him up even for a goalie. pipe dreams

[DanHibiki]

I feel like if they change the jersey it's not that big a deal AS LONG as they keep the same colors.

We need to create an identity and this year we are finally get close to a sea of blue as more and more people are buying the jerseys.

Also, the great thing about having the same blue with white and green trims is that whether you have a current jersey, 3rd jersey, or the old school jersey, you fit right in with the color scheme.

I notice sooooooo few old Orca jerseys now a days. It's either blue jerseys or the skate logos.

As long as we keep having great success we will soon get to have a sea of blue in the crowd.

[AzNightmare]

I think this version looks much better as well.

A little mock-up... :D

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z184/blackgn/johnny_canuck-jersey.jpg


This jersey is so badass.
I like it the best, over any Canuck jersey i've seen to date, including all concepts and official ones.

[DanHibiki]

^can someone explain that pilot logo to me? what's the story behind it and how dose it connect to vancouver/canucks?

[SkinnyPupp]

The original original Johnny Canuck was a war pilot

http://www.informationgoddess.ca/Comics&GraphicNovels/images/histor26.jpg

[DanHibiki]

^damn. THAT i did not know.

[SkinnyPupp]

I think im going to get a tattoo of the Johnny Canuck V on my shoulder lol, same size and spot of the shoulder patch.
http://i.imgur.com/Rpguz.png

[Ronin]

The real fun will be watching the Carolina Hurricanes. They have over $30m in cap space and only 12 players signed. Of the top 12 forwards spots, they only have three regulars (Eric Staal, Jeff Skinner, Tuumo Ruutu) signed and only 5 forwards signed total.

They also only have 5 total D men and only 4 regulars.

That's going to be an interesting team to watch in free agency.

[Ronin]

This jersey is so badass.
I like it the best, over any Canuck jersey i've seen to date, including all concepts and official ones.

Am I absolutely crazy or would...

...I can't believe I'm saying this...

...would VANCOUVER look good on that jersey...much like it looks on the current jersey? I just think this one is too clean for a NHL hockey jersey. It looks like something the Italian national soccer team would wear.

I do like it though...I'd rock that jersey but I think it would look strange on players in game.

[SkinnyPupp]

An Italian soccer jersey would have a huge ugly corporate logo on the front of it. And on the sleeves, and every corner. The last way I'd describe a soccer jersey is "clean"

[b0unce. [?]]

An Italian soccer jersey would have a huge ugly corporate logo on the front of it. And on the sleeves, and every corner. The last way I'd describe a soccer jersey is "clean"

the european jerseys and soccer jerseys have sponsor logos and shit everywhere

http://www.yosfeeds.com/images/?u[]=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.productserve.com%2Fpreview%2F 1826%2F121795624.jpg&u[]=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uksoccershop.com%2Fimages%2F1435 2.jpg&u[]=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yosfeeds.com%2Fimages%2Fno-thumb.jpg
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2008+IIHF+Hockey+World+Championships+Day+15+GHK0g7 uvWRxl.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah it ruins the sports.. Let's hope they don't end up doing that here! It looks so bush league

[lol]

That pilot style jersey is pretty slick! I like it a lot.

However now we're going away from the Orca identity.

[spoon.ek9]

sedin-sedin-burrows
raymond-kesler-samuelsson
?-malhotra-?
?-?-?

i'd like to seen Hansen back on the 3rd line with manny. as for Torres, i'd keep him if he accepts the same salary or slightly higher (no higher than $1.5mil IMO). one of our more apparent weaknesses this year was the lack of a consistent 4th line. other than Glass, it was a revolving door throughout the season and into the playoffs. as you guys have said, we REALLY need someone to play with kes. Raymond and Samuelsson aren't bad players but neither of them has good size.

Higgins and Lapierre were initially brought in to anchor our 4th line with NHL experience and some grit. I wish it would have happened but they did the best they could to fill in for Manny and Samuelsson. i'm not sure how much will be needed to sign the two, but if it gets too pricey, i think the Canucks need to walk away.

can you imagine?

sedin-sedin-burrows
raymond-kesler-samuelsson
hansen-malhotra-torres
glass-lapierre-higgins

that would have been huge! sigh.. it's a little depressing to think about it really

i'm curious what your guys' take is on possibly replacing samuelsson and what to do with the 4th line. do we let the farm kids have a chance or do we sign some new 4th liners? i'm not even sure i want Glass back on our 4th line.

as for our defense, it's imperative that we re-sign Bieksa. Ehrhoff would be great to keep and I think Ballard will be moving on. if Salo signs a 1 year deal south of $2mil i'll be super happy to see him continue to be a canuck. i'm on the fence about keeping Alberts despite his big improvements this year. also, thankfully Tanev has been great as a rookie. if he can gain some mass in the off season, i'd be happy to see him on the 3rd pairing.

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Ehrhoff
Rome-?

[murd0c]

Tanev will be on the team for sure next year and he deserves it. The big question I have is what about Coho he should be on the team but is he actually ready?
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[spoon.ek9]

as long as AV has anything to say about it, i don't think CoHo has a chance :(

[Tim Budong]

i dun think CoHo is really ready...
who knows...maybe slotting him into fulltime 3rd liner could be a good thing?

[spoon.ek9]

would he be better as a 3rd line winger or a 4th line centre? i know we heard the excuse that he won't be able to develop as a 4th line centre before

[Iceman_2K]

he's not ready - he's a recent draft that hasn't played enough in the AHL yet.

[Tim Budong]

speaking of AHL...hahahhahahaa
no team!!!!

[Iceman_2K]

Pretty much - hard to develop players when you don't have a farm team.....

[spoon.ek9]

i think someone on tsn suggested that the canucks should have a local farm team (ie, abbotsford heat) because that would give the locals much more reason to watch the games. seeing future canucks play makes total sense to me but i doubt it would ever happen.

[murd0c]

i think someone on tsn suggested that the canucks should have a local farm team (ie, abbotsford heat) because that would give the locals much more reason to watch the games. seeing future canucks play makes total sense to me but i doubt it would ever happen.

I'm sure all of us agree on that as well. I would go to heat games if they were the Canucks farm team. Does anyone know how long the Flames contract with the heat is for?

[Iceman_2K]

no clue but it would be nice to have the farm team near by. Vancouver giants are fun to watch as well, but too bad they're not really affiliated with the Canucks.

[spoon.ek9]

i can't wait for the new season to begin. time to watch gillis work his magic! this team is still heading in the right direction, we just need a tweak here and there.

[Ronin]

no clue but it would be nice to have the farm team near by. Vancouver giants are fun to watch as well, but too bad they're not really affiliated with the Canucks.

Internet logic to the rescue!

Vancouver Giants = in Vancouver

In Vancouver = Canucks because We Are All Canucks

Therefore, Giants = Canucks

http://files.sharenator.com/Close_enough_RE_Controversial_Video_Games_Part_III-s330x315-189585.jpg

[Durrann]

[QUOTE=spoon.ek9;7478792]
can you imagine?

sedin-sedin-burrows
raymond-kesler-samuelsson
hansen-malhotra-torres
glass-lapierre-higgins

that would have been huge! sigh.. it's a little depressing to think about it really

i'm curious what your guys' take is on possibly replacing samuelsson and what to do with the 4th line. do we let the farm kids have a chance or do we sign some new 4th liners? i'm not even sure i want Glass back on our 4th line.

QUOTE]

I think i would replace Glass with Oreskovich
his speed is quite impressive
and he's a train wreck at times..

[spoon.ek9]

^ true, i liked what i saw from oreo this year: speed and strength. if he can develop a scoring touch, he could be huge for us in the future.

[belka]

I think this version looks much better as well.

A little mock-up... :D

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z184/blackgn/johnny_canuck-jersey.jpg

That looks better an any current Canuck jersey. Would buy in a heart beat.

[s300ae]

Hopefully this guy sticks around
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/vancityjoker/3fba9ec6.jpg
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[604778]

More of this next season? :fullofwin:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmm5w1o0H91qa0xhdo1_250.gif

[falcon]

Are those accounts even real? I had Raymond added, but he deleted me for the second time after I called that Ivan Ta kid an attention whore lol :alone:
Tbh, all I see is Yann and Kevin fb tagging eachother and cracking jokes all day..you'd think they have better things to do?


Just like the rest of the population should have better things to do? I'm sure they all have smart phones. I doubt they are jsut sitting at their computer all day like many RS members.... lol

The rest of the world is caught up in FB, why not them?

As for Shea Weber, supposedly it's real since that account is a friend on Masons and Juices accounts and they talk back and forth regularly.

[falcon]

We need to create an identity and this year we are finally get close to a sea of blue as more and more people are buying the jerseys.



That's the biggest issue here. After years and years, due to this cup run a TON of people bought sweaters. It would be foolish to change them all now. If they do have some changes for next year, they need to keep one current design just so there is a bit of consistency from this year to next.

[DanHibiki]

Internet logic to the rescue!

Vancouver Giants = in Vancouver

In Vancouver = Canucks because We Are All Canucks

Therefore, Giants = Canucks

http://files.sharenator.com/Close_enough_RE_Controversial_Video_Games_Part_III-s330x315-189585.jpg

The Giants are a junior team playing in the WHL. AHL is a men's league. Not possible.

[Culverin]

More of this next season? :fullofwin:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmm5w1o0H91qa0xhdo1_250.gif

Heck yes, I want to see more troll dancing.
I wonder what it would take to convince lappy to do up a short dancing video we could troll with.
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[Happy]

The Giants are a junior team playing in the WHL. AHL is a men's league. Not possible.

would make more sense getting the abby heat
but for some reason its calgarys farm team lol

[spideyv2]

The Giants are a junior team playing in the WHL. AHL is a men's league. Not possible.

I think you missed out on the sarcasm and the 'Internet Logic' part

[Ronin]

An Italian soccer jersey would have a huge ugly corporate logo on the front of it. And on the sleeves, and every corner. The last way I'd describe a soccer jersey is "clean"

http://goalshopper.com/images/italy_home_08-09.jpg

HUH!?

[Ronin]

The Giants are a junior team playing in the WHL. AHL is a men's league. Not possible.

I'M FUCKING JOKING.

WOOSH.

[van19]

fuck . i hate this rat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9mj3I7QJkY&feature=player_embedded


:banghead:

[spideyv2]

fuck . i hate this rat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9mj3I7QJkY&feature=player_embedded


:banghead:

Those idiots must think Wiz is from boston or something, smh.

[Tim Budong]

Canucks should draft Zackary Yuen
then this thread will have more trolls..chinese ones
which means all the intelligence here can eat them alive

bwahahhaa

[Ronin]

I hate Marchand...

...but I want him to play for us.

[shawn79]

I hate Marchand...

...but I want him to play for us.

he plays similar style like burrows but i still prefer burrows over marchard altho im mirin his agitating and clutch skills :cry:

Canucks should draft Zackary Yuen
then this thread will have more trolls..chinese ones
which means all the intelligence here can eat them alive

bwahahhaa

think they did that to prab rai making the canucks community grew even larger in surrey, this time will be in richmond and hong kong :fullofwin:

[Tim Budong]

well Yuen is touted to go much higher than Rai who was drafted 5th rnd i think
8 goals 24 assists last year in 72 games as a Dman

seems like a good kid...local boy...more chinese roots than brandon yip HAHA

[spideyv2]

Whatever happened to Rai?

[Tim Budong]

He has back problems
didnt play all year, was assigned to the Salmon Kings though...

canucks gave him an entry level contract last year based on his 41g performance with the Seattle Thunderbirds

[Iceman_2K]

Wonder where he will go since the Salmon Kings are now gone..