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spideyv2
07-25-2011, 05:31 PM
could actually see him cracking the lineup on the 4th with a good camp.



but damn im eager to see what MG does. all this depth and farm team signings are fun and all, but i want to see him someone ive heard of before who will be a real impact player. hah.

it's hard when you still have to re-sign 2 restricted free agents and barely have any cap space to work with
only time i see an impact player coming in is via trade

b0unce. [?]
07-25-2011, 05:43 PM
i'd rather they tell me what they plan to do with coho

spideyv2
07-25-2011, 05:48 PM
If worse comes to worse, I wouldn't mind seeing Coho on the second line wing with Kes if he improves his skating this off season. If not, play him for a full year in the AHL.

dbaz
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
I have a feeling hodgson will be given the chance on the second line to start the season because a. raymond wont be starting the season and b. samuelsson was a disappointment last year although he was hurt. I just hope it works with him on the wing and we can leave samuelsson on the third line as it would make our team a lot better than last year. forgot we still have higgins too

Ronin
07-25-2011, 07:39 PM
Hodgson will get his shot with Kesler on the 2nd line along with either Samuelsson or Marco Sturm. I see Sturm and Samuelsson alternating on the 2nd and 3rd line until Raymond is ready to play. If Hodgson does well, he'll keep the 2nd line spot and Samuelsson will probably get bumped down for a Samuelsson-Malhotra-Sturm line on the 3rd with Hodgson-Kesler-Raymond on the 2nd.

But if not, Hodgson gets sent down and we are back to Kesler centering a 2nd line that has three (or possibly 4 depending on who else can step up) interchangable wingers depending on injury and production.

Right now, we're quite light in the bottom six...mostly the 4th line because

Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Hodgson-Kesler-Samuelsson
Sturm-Malhotra-Hansen
??? - Lapierre - ???

...looks like it's set. However, if your 4th line is your biggest worry, then not doing too badly. Canucks need to shore up some depth and I don't mean signing all these guys to play on the Wolves. We need another couple decent forwards that can round out our 4 lines. We have strength on the back end if everyone is healthy. A full year of Edler and Salo will be good even if we lost Ehrhoff. I think Tanev is ready to play but definitely short, 3rd pairing minutes.

But as we saw in the 2011 playoffs, you can't have enough NHL-level forwards. Injuries will always thin out the roster by the time June rolls around.

spideyv2
07-25-2011, 08:27 PM
Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Hodgson-Kesler-Samuelsson
Sturm-Malhotra-Hansen
??? - Lapierre - ???

Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Hodgson-Kesler-Samuelsson
Sturm-Malhotra-Higgins
Bitz - Lapierre - Hansen

Healthy

Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Hodgson/Samuelsson-Kesler-Raymond
Sturm-Malhotra-Higgins
Hansen - Lapierre - Bitz/Oreskovich/Mancari

if Hodgson pans out, this looks like a deadly line up. When healthy and on their game, Samuelsson, Sturm, and Raymond are all top 6 forwards..I love the depth

Edit- lol higgins

Ikkaku
07-25-2011, 08:28 PM
why is everybody forgetting we have Higgins?

shawn79
07-25-2011, 08:31 PM
until raymond is recover we might see something like this

Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Raymond/Higgins-Kesler-Samuelsson
Sturm-Malhotra-Higgins/Hansen
Bitz/hodgson - Lapierre - Oreskovich/hansen

CRS
07-25-2011, 08:33 PM
until raymond is recover we might see something like this

Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Raymond/Higgins-Kesler-Samuelsson
Sturm-Malhotra-Higgins/Hansen
Bitz/hodgson - Lapierre - Oreskovich/hansen

Hodgson will not be on the fourth line.

dbaz
07-25-2011, 08:35 PM
im thinking to start the season

sedin -sedin- burrows
higgins -kesler- hodgson
samuelsson/sturm -malholtra- hansen
sturm/samuelsson - lapiere - oreskovich/bitz

murd0c
07-25-2011, 08:41 PM
I just laughing at everyone the forgot Higgins right now lol

spideyv2
07-25-2011, 08:48 PM
LOL can't believe i forgot Higgins..that's how much depth we have

jayzus

shawn79
07-25-2011, 09:02 PM
Hodgson will not be on the fourth line.

:fuckthatshit:
Sammuelsson, Higgins, Sturm, and Raymond wont be playing on the 4th line anyways

hodgson lappy hasen are legit

if anything islanders would want hodgson for mark streit come trade deadline if we are missing Christian Ehrhoff

RRxtar
07-25-2011, 09:14 PM
we all forget higgins because hes just there.. doin his thing. not doing anything wrong or doing anything outstanding. hes not a difference maker but not a liability either. perfect 3rd line winger.

i still think we are overloaded with 3rd liners and farm fillers and i could see a trade for a second line winger before the trade deadline (holy shit thats like 8 months away haha) if everyone stays healthy.

agreed that coho is going to be the wild card here. hes either going to fit well on the 2 or hes not going to be involved with the canucks by the time march rolls around.

keifun
07-25-2011, 10:23 PM
Damnit! Is it October yet?:fuuuuu:

Ronin
07-26-2011, 02:09 AM
LLOOOOOL TOTALLY FORGOT HIGGINS EXISTED.

...and I call him "Chiggins".

So

Daniel-Henrik-Burrows
Hodgson-Kesler-Higgins
Sturm-Malhotra-Samuelsson
Hansen-Lapierre-???

Oreo isn't signed yet. I'm guessing Hansen will be soon enough.

I'd rather keep Hansen with Malhotra but Samuelsson, Higgins and Sturm would be wasted on the 4th line.

Ronin
07-26-2011, 02:12 AM
Not hating on Higgins but the signing I wanted out of the two deadline deals was Lapierre. Why?

‪Maxim Lapierre 1-0 Goal - Canucks Vs Bruins - R4G5 2011 Playoffs - 06.10.11 - HD‬‏ - YouTube

THE LAP-DANCE

highfive
07-26-2011, 09:35 AM
^ Watching that still fucking hurts. I was at the game and it was fucking awesome knowing that if we win 1 of the next two games we win the cup..

Tim Budong
07-26-2011, 11:48 AM
Shawn Thornton with CUP..
looks beat up..motherfucker

http://l.yimg.com/lk/api/res/1.2/d43dKBcgueCORYmIekoIZQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW1lZGlhO2g9NDU3O3c9NjEw/http://mit.zenfs.com/206/2011/07/THORNTON.jpg

mako
07-26-2011, 11:51 AM
^
dry humping it
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spoon.ek9
07-26-2011, 11:55 AM
the last thing i want to see in this thread is ANY fucking bruin with the cup.

shawn79
07-26-2011, 12:03 PM
Is that a big dent on the cup!?!

MR_BIGGS
07-26-2011, 12:33 PM
The top left portion of it looks messed up.

No more pics of Bruins with the cup please.

Expresso
07-26-2011, 01:02 PM
Draper retires today at 33 years old. Kind of puts it in perspective cause when I look at Draper he looks almost 40. But he is like my age almost haha.

EDIT: oops He is 40! He uses #33 lol!

mako
07-26-2011, 01:09 PM
Umm ... He is 40
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Born May 24, 1971
Toronto, ON, CAN

Bouncing Bettys
07-26-2011, 01:10 PM
Draper retires today at 33 years old. Kind of puts it in perspective cause when I look at Draper he looks almost 40. But he is like my age almost haha.

Does this guy look 33 to you?


Kris Draper - born May 24, 1971. That makes him 40

Expresso
07-26-2011, 01:19 PM
Kris Draper - born May 24, 1971. That makes him 40

lol misread the article haha. My bad.

spideyv2
07-26-2011, 02:25 PM
Draper retires today at 33 years old. Kind of puts it in perspective cause when I look at Draper he looks almost 40. But he is like my age almost haha.

EDIT: oops He is 40! He uses #33 lol!

Yup, and I guess Alex Burrows is 14.

AzNightmare
07-26-2011, 03:03 PM
Not hating on Higgins but the signing I wanted out of the two deadline deals was Lapierre. Why?

‪Maxim Lapierre 1-0 Goal - Canucks Vs Bruins - R4G5 2011 Playoffs - 06.10.11 - HD‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU_C9t1Fyn0)

THE LAP-DANCE

:okay: That was a great moment... I remember I jumped up and celebrated and started doing the "Lapierre-Dance" too.

Hondaracer
07-26-2011, 06:57 PM
going through some music that was given to me, came across this song i havent heard in a while, would be an amazing Nucks opening song:

‪AC/DC - For Those About To Rock‬‏ - YouTube

Ronin
07-26-2011, 07:06 PM
Yup, and I guess Alex Burrows is 14.

Luongo is 1...

krazynuck
07-26-2011, 09:10 PM
Luongo is 1...

D. Sedin is 22 and H.Sedin is 33....and they are twins....child birth would have sucked

:fulloffuck:

Mercy
07-27-2011, 09:21 PM
Winchester close to signing.
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pure.life
07-27-2011, 09:32 PM
Luongo is 1...

His mental capacity surely is at age 1 :okay:

spideyv2
07-27-2011, 09:41 PM
Winchester close to signing.
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rumors bro, would be a good addition to our 4th line tho. shawn thornton type player

Gh0stRider
07-27-2011, 11:17 PM
Draper, well worth the buck

b0unce. [?]
07-27-2011, 11:22 PM
Draper, well worth the buck

hands down one of the most underrated players. so fucking effective. love the guy.

krazynuck
07-28-2011, 08:46 AM
FROM TSN
Sources say former NHL on TSN analyst Craig MacTavish will be named the head coach of the Chicago Wolves of the American Hockey League.

MacTavish's last coached in the NHL with the Edmonton Oilers for eight seasons from 2000-2009, reaching the Stanley Cup Final in 2006.

After a long playing career, MacTavish began his coaching career as an assistant with the New York Rangers in 1997.

After two seasons, he took up the same role with the Oilers before being promoted to head coach in 2000.

The Wolves are the new AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, after the Manitoba Moose moved to St. John's, Newfoundland.


interesting move if they do this

hypediss
07-28-2011, 09:03 AM
thats great news ... well in my opinion



i liked mactavish as a coach, heart and soul guy

jeedee
07-28-2011, 09:28 AM
Devils just traded Rolston to Isles for Trent Hunter

Looks like they're making room for Parise's signing which means no more rumors of him coming to the Nucks :okay:
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b0unce. [?]
07-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Devils just traded Rolston to Isles for Trent Hunter

Looks like they're making room for Parise's signing which means no more rumors of him coming to the Nucks :okay:
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even if we could possibly get him. i dont think we could afford him.

jeedee
07-28-2011, 09:43 AM
We could...if we traded Ballard :troll:
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MR_BIGGS
07-28-2011, 10:18 AM
Craig MacTavish will be a coach in the NHL before season's end in my opinion.

spideyv2
07-28-2011, 11:10 AM
#NHL news #Canucks Jannik Hansen settles his case and agrees to a new 3 year deal.twitter.com/RealKyper
nice. Wonder how much terms are

jeedee
07-28-2011, 11:12 AM
Damn beat me to it fawker^
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LsquareD
07-28-2011, 11:53 AM
DOPE!

spoon.ek9
07-28-2011, 11:55 AM
Hansen deserves a raise but I hope it's within reason. He's good but still had his limitations.

spideyv2
07-28-2011, 11:55 AM
‪Jannik Hansen song (Ryan Kesler's Pizza)‬‏ - YouTube

Not really racist!
07-28-2011, 12:09 PM
cap hit better be 1.5 or less

Not really racist!
07-28-2011, 12:16 PM
BotchonCanucks @SocialAssassin2 yes, and fans are going to like it. Another player who took less

winson604
07-28-2011, 02:31 PM
Hansens's contract is US$4.05-million, three-year deal.

Hansen will make $1.6 million next season followed by $1.35 million in 2012-13 and $1.1 million in 2013-14.

Works out to be a 1.35 Mill cap hit.

shawn79
07-28-2011, 02:32 PM
excellent

Liquid_o2
07-28-2011, 02:52 PM
1.35 million cap hit for Hansen is a great deal for both sides. He is one of our best checkers and penalty killers and hustles every single shift. Pus he displayed last year that he is capable for putting up some points on the board.

Glad to see that it isn't another one year deal either.

Gumby
07-28-2011, 03:02 PM
That looks like a reasonable contract. :)

Unlike some of the other ones that were signed on/shortly after July 1st... :blueguy:

CRS
07-28-2011, 03:52 PM
That looks like a reasonable contract. :)

Unlike some of the other ones that were signed on/shortly after July 1st... :blueguy:

Some signing were so super sketch.

But I guess you have to pay to play.

Imagine next season with Weber and Parise.

spoon.ek9
07-28-2011, 05:02 PM
sweet! i was expecting it would turn out to be $1.5mil cap hit or worse. $1.35 is a great deal for what Hansen brings to the table :D

punkwax
07-28-2011, 05:42 PM
Ya, that's a good deal for Hansen.
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Not really racist!
07-28-2011, 07:13 PM
if he can get rid of his stone hands... he'll be a steal.... essentially we're just paying for his hard work and determination, hopefully he can break the 40pt barrier.. or im just dreaming

dignatas
07-28-2011, 07:18 PM
Craig MacTavish will be a coach in the NHL before season's end in my opinion.

you can't say random stuff like that. Sorry but he won't be. PERIOD

JesseBlue
07-28-2011, 07:28 PM
plus... which season?

nosaj
07-28-2011, 07:47 PM
glad to have hansen! :)

DanHibiki
07-28-2011, 07:53 PM
"That Hansen. he's so hot right now"

http://www.condoroptions.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/mugatu-says-relax.jpg

Ronin
07-28-2011, 08:33 PM
Great signing and a very good cap hit.

Hansen is one of my favorite players. He's what Burrows was before Burr got top line duty. I think the Canucks have a diamond in the rough. He might be even better by the time his contract is done.

spideyv2
07-28-2011, 08:42 PM
Great signing and a very good cap hit.

Hansen is one of my favorite players. He's what Burrows was before Burr got top line duty. I think the Canucks have a diamond in the rough. He might be even better by the time his contract is done.

I see Hansen having 15-20 goal potential. Can't believe he was one of the last picks in the 04 draft..One of Nonis' rare smart picks

keifun
07-28-2011, 08:52 PM
now I'm really thinking of getting his name/number on my next jersey purchase since he's here to stay for 3 more yrs.

one of my fav canucks.

shawn79
07-28-2011, 08:52 PM
Was just checking out the 2004 draft, i think dallas got :troll: drafting the wrong Johan Franzen LOL


Johan Fransson hockey statistics & profile at hockeydb.com (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=70757)


the real one: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=62727

spoon.ek9
07-28-2011, 08:53 PM
if he can get rid of his stone hands... he'll be a steal.... essentially we're just paying for his hard work and determination, hopefully he can break the 40pt barrier.. or im just dreaming

if he can put up 25-30 points, i think he'll have done his job. he's never really had the finish of a consistent goal scorer.

by far i think his greatest limitation is his effectiveness peaks with a 3rd line role. he is unable to produce enough to stay in a role higher than that.

Culverin
07-28-2011, 10:52 PM
We need somebody to make one of these for the canucks.

‪Mitchell & Webb - Football, Football, Football‬‏ - YouTube

jeedee
07-28-2011, 11:05 PM
if he can get rid of his stone hands... he'll be a steal.... essentially we're just paying for his hard work and determination, hopefully he can break the 40pt barrier.. or im just dreaming

Nope you aren't dreaming. Well before Burr and Kes became the players they are today, they were used for checking and hitting (similar to what Hansen is doing right now)

If Hansen is given the chance to play with Kes fulltime, he'll easily jump up the points chart.

There's a really good article on CanucksArmy suggesting Hansen as a 2nd line candidate.
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dbaz
07-29-2011, 06:43 AM
Winnipeg jets ahl team to be known as the "icecaps". logo unreleased still as they are working with tim hortons on designing a new cup for the logo :troll:

DanHibiki
07-29-2011, 07:08 AM
Winnipeg jets ahl team to be known as the "icecaps". logo unreleased still as they are working with tim hortons on designing a new cup for the logo :troll:

Will they be the former moose team?
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highfive
07-29-2011, 07:33 AM
if he can put up 25-30 points, i think he'll have done his job. he's never really had the finish of a consistent goal scorer.

by far i think his greatest limitation is his effectiveness peaks with a 3rd line role. he is unable to produce enough to stay in a role higher than that.

I remember watching some of the interviews with Bieksa or Luongo where they always joke around with Hansen saying he's one of the more serious hard working players during practice and he's probably one of the best. He could stickhandle through you and everything. That's why they believe sooner or later, he's going to do it in the game as well. I'm going to try to look up that video.

murd0c
07-29-2011, 07:42 AM
Will they be the former moose team?
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yes since true north owns the Moose

spoon.ek9
07-29-2011, 08:59 AM
i'd love to be proven wrong about hansen. it would mean a lot for our team!

b0unce. [?]
07-29-2011, 12:15 PM
i love having a guy like hansen on our team. although point production wise late into the playoffs wasnt there, arguably the rest of our team didn't show up either. He at least showed some heart while playing, at just little over a mil a year, im fine with that.

CRS
07-29-2011, 02:36 PM
Parise signed for another year with NJ.

NEWARK, N.J. -- The New Jersey Devils have reached an agreement with high-scoring left-winger Zach Parise on a one-year, $6M contract.

In making the announcement late Friday afternoon, Devils president and general manager Lou Lamoriello said the two sides were continuing to work on a multi-year deal.

The Devils had filed for arbitration with Parise in June. He would have become an unrestricted free agent in 2012 had he not reached a new deal.

Parise earned US$5 million last season, a year in which he was limited to 13 games and three goals by a knee injury that required surgery. He had been the catalyst of the Devils' offence the previous four seasons, scoring 146 goals.

Parise, Devils agree on one year, $6M deal (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372766)

spideyv2
07-29-2011, 02:39 PM
Parise signed for another year with NJ.



Parise, Devils agree on one year, $6M deal (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372766)

This just in: Half the members on CDC have commit suicide

shawn79
07-29-2011, 02:41 PM
Good, hope parise bolt else where with kovalchuk being the "franchise" in jersey now.

Thrasher franchise value just doubled or tripled... after moving to winnipeg

b0unce. [?]
07-29-2011, 03:08 PM
there's always next year! LOL

Laundry
07-29-2011, 03:14 PM
Parise is gonna be a UFA next year, no longer a RFA...

Kesler-Parise?

Gumby
07-29-2011, 03:27 PM
And in other news, Brent Sopel is heading to Russia to play hockey for the next 2 years. :)

Quite surprising, to be honest. He's definitely good enough to be on the 3rd D pairing at the very least...

shawn79
07-29-2011, 03:34 PM
sopel recored 37pts and 42 pts as a canucks in 02 03 04 :)

parise kesler and miller are the reason why USA were in the 2010 gold medal game

Simulated
07-29-2011, 03:48 PM
i can't believe they only got him to commit to only one year. next summer should be interesting!

PornMaster
07-29-2011, 03:51 PM
could be a sj move where they sign setoguchi and trade his ass LOL

flawless
07-29-2011, 04:08 PM
Parise just came off major knee surgery so I assume NJ wants to make sure he can play at the level before the injury before committing long term.

d1
07-29-2011, 04:57 PM
$6m for a healthy parise is a great deal.

jeedee
07-29-2011, 05:15 PM
And in other news, Brent Sopel is heading to Russia to play hockey for the next 2 years. :)

Quite surprising, to be honest. He's definitely good enough to be on the 3rd D pairing at the very least...

Kovalev also signed in the KHL for 2 years. Best of luck to him.
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Ronin
07-29-2011, 05:32 PM
i can't believe they only got him to commit to only one year. next summer should be interesting!

Other way around. Parise got one on the Devils by signing a contract that makes him a UFA in his 7th NHL season. No team wants their young stars to be UFAs on the first years they reach 7 or 27 because if they sign elsewhere as a UFA and they get nothing for him, they will have gotten the absolute minimum return for their investment.

Simulated
07-29-2011, 06:16 PM
thats kinda what i was going for. i just worded very poorly. the article still says they are talking long term so you never know.
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jeedee
07-29-2011, 08:07 PM
Reminder that in the 2012/2013 season, there may be a lockout so that's why the Devils haven't committed Parise into long terms
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Ronin
07-29-2011, 08:17 PM
That would be a hella stupid reason. Paying Parise $6m for a year of doing nothing is way better than losing him to free agency for nothing after all the development they've put into him. Stars don't grow on trees. Letting Parise walk could cost someone their job.

...well, maybe not Lamorello since he probably owns the souls of everyone in New Jersey. I'm guessing if they tried to fire him, a swarm of locusts would come out of his mouth and eat everyone's faces.

...because he looks like he's probably Satan.

...Ohhhhhhhh NJ Devils...

invader
07-29-2011, 09:30 PM
Reminder that in the 2012/2013 season, there may be a lockout so that's why the Devils haven't committed Parise into long terms
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haha, thats why Hansen got a front loaded deal :)

jeedee
07-29-2011, 11:57 PM
haha, thats why Hansen got a front loaded deal :)

Yup. He could've gotten more from his arbitration hearing, but he wanted a longer term and filing for arbitration every summer is a hassle.
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b0unce. [?]
07-30-2011, 09:57 AM
Happy Birthday Nazzy!

shawn79
07-30-2011, 10:29 AM
happy bday for markus

he stands 3rd best canucks all time for this organization

Ch28
07-30-2011, 10:52 AM
Bure > Linden > Naslund
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JesseBlue
07-30-2011, 10:58 AM
That would be a hella stupid reason. Paying Parise $6m for a year of doing nothing is way better than losing him to free agency for nothing after all the development they've put into him. Stars don't grow on trees. Letting Parise walk could cost someone their job.

...well, maybe not Lamorello since he probably owns the souls of everyone in New Jersey. I'm guessing if they tried to fire him, a swarm of locusts would come out of his mouth and eat everyone's faces.

...because he looks like he's probably Satan.

...Ohhhhhhhh NJ Devils...
its all about the potential and nothing to do with what he didnt do the previous season...if crosby was a ufa, would you sign him to contract based on a shortened season and concussion? hell i would take that gamble

UFO
07-30-2011, 11:42 AM
I'm not 100% on this, but I do not believe players get paid in the event of a strike/lockout, so that is irrelevant to the 1 yr term on Parise's deal. Basically he signed the 1 yr term to avoid an arbitration hearing. NJ filed for arbitration so teams cannot give him an offer sheet as a current RFA. With arbitration it is essentially Parise telling the mediator how awesome he is and asking for fair market value, and the team telling the mediator why they do not think he is worth as much as he is asking for, basically mudslinging on both sides which has the potential to hurt the team-player relationship depending on how far each party decides to take it.

Hansen's deal being frontloaded like that is kind of weird, it's not an obvious attempt to circumvent the cap like paying Airhoff $10M for 2011-12, especially if anybody is anticipating a 25% salary cut across the board like what happened with the last CBA strike/lockout. With how some of the recent contracts have been gifted out, this would not be a surprise to me at all. Hopefully Hansen can continue to improve on his performance and come year 2 and 3, the $1.3M he is set to earn will make it seem like an absolute steal (like Burrows' current deal, and to a lesser extent Kesler's current deal).

Gumby
07-30-2011, 01:44 PM
Kovalev also signed in the KHL for 2 years. Best of luck to him.
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Not as surprising as Sopel's decision to play in the KHL, since Kovalev is Russian!

shawn79
07-30-2011, 01:46 PM
Bure > Linden > Naslund
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this man speaks the truth and nothing but the truth.

respected.

Gumby
07-30-2011, 02:01 PM
Bure > Linden > Naslund
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I respectfully disagree. You can't compare the 3.

DanHibiki
07-30-2011, 02:11 PM
I respectfully disagree. You can't compare the 3.

You can if someone asked you "who would you rather take?"

Gumby
07-30-2011, 02:27 PM
You can if someone asked you "who would you rather take?"
Touché. :)

quasi
07-30-2011, 03:28 PM
I'm not 100% on this, but I do not believe players get paid in the event of a strike/lockout, so that is irrelevant to the 1 yr term on Parise's deal.


No they aren't paid during strike/lockout unless it's by the union but that would be the equivalent of peanuts compared to what they normally get paid. They make an exception for guys who are disabled or on long term injury prior to.

Ronin
07-30-2011, 04:26 PM
its all about the potential and nothing to do with what he didnt do the previous season...if crosby was a ufa, would you sign him to contract based on a shortened season and concussion? hell i would take that gamble

That's not what I was saying. I mean if they signed him long term, lost a year to a lockout and ended up paying Parise $6m even though the NHL wasn't playing, that's a better option than losing him for nothing next year when he probably test free agency.

P.S. Linden >>>>> everyone else. No one has mattered more to the Canucks than #16. Bure was more talented. Nazzy was too...but I wouldn't pick either one over Linden's heart and will. Remember who scored the only two goals in game 7.

carisear
07-30-2011, 05:25 PM
for any canuck fan that grew up watching linden play, ever since he was 18, there really is no point asking who the greatest canuck of all time is.

Even in his last years (NOT 1994), when he was obviously not the man he used to be, who was the big playoff performer in all the game 7s?

Bouncing Bettys
07-30-2011, 05:32 PM
Linden all the way. Even I, as a Leafs fan, had a Linden poster on my wall growing up. I wore his number in hockey until the coach's son cried about it.

iwantaskyline
07-30-2011, 06:03 PM
for any canuck fan that grew up watching linden play, ever since he was 18, there really is no point asking who the greatest canuck of all time is.

Even in his last years (NOT 1994), when he was obviously not the man he used to be, who was the big playoff performer in all the game 7s?

Playoff numbers from 96-08: 45 GP --> 19 points

Great guy but he is not the greatest Canuck. Most loved yes.

Ronin
07-30-2011, 07:11 PM
How do you define greatness?

Is it a Calder trophy, a deep playoff run and several high scoring seasons and then leaving with a big frown on his face?

Or maybe it's owning every statistical category as a Canuck but never getting close to the Cup or showing up when the team needs him the most?

Nope. For me, it's the guy that gave all he had to the Canucks and Vancouver, never putting himself before the team, being a leader on and off the ice, etc.

While they were better players and they certainly deserve any honors the Canucks give them, there will always be questions about Bure and Nazzy's commitment to the team. No one will ever doubt where Linden's loyalty was.

I have a feeling that Kesler is the only one with a shot to usurp Linden's place amongst the all time Canucks. LOL...wouldn't that be something...an American is the best loved player in a big Canadian market. But then again...Linden's from Alberta.

b0unce. [?]
07-30-2011, 07:35 PM
How do you define greatness?

Is it a Calder trophy, a deep playoff run and several high scoring seasons and then leaving with a big frown on his face?

Or maybe it's owning every statistical category as a Canuck but never getting close to the Cup or showing up when the team needs him the most?

Nope. For me, it's the guy that gave all he had to the Canucks and Vancouver, never putting himself before the team, being a leader on and off the ice, etc.

While they were better players and they certainly deserve any honors the Canucks give them, there will always be questions about Bure and Nazzy's commitment to the team. No one will ever doubt where Linden's loyalty was.

I have a feeling that Kesler is the only one with a shot to usurp Linden's place amongst the all time Canucks. LOL...wouldn't that be something...an American is the best loved player in a big Canadian market. But then again...Linden's from Alberta.

leadership and heart.

Ronin
07-30-2011, 08:18 PM
If the zombie apocalypse happens tomorrow, I'd trust in Trevor Linden and Ryan Kesler to lead us against the undead horde.

...unless one or both are already zombies and in that case, may Jesus, Allah and Buddah have mercy on our souls.

punkwax
07-30-2011, 08:28 PM
Linden + Bure = apples + oranges
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UFO
07-30-2011, 10:03 PM
I feel bad for Bure: essentially run out of Vancouver when he was shafted and kicked around by team management. DESPITE the way he left, the number of Canucks fans who feel he should be honoured for his time and contribution speaks volumes to the magnitude of player he was for us. He got a bad rap for the way he conducted himself in the Vancouver public, but let's remember his age and maturity level when he was here, and there are numberous stories about current Canucks that are not exactly flattering either.

I feel equally bad for Naslund: left to whither away with the weight of Canuck Nation on his shoulders, the same Canuck Nation that you can argue he rebuilt after the unfortunate Messier/Keenan years, but left speachless with no answers when it counted the most. I am glad that he was finally recognized for his contributions to the team, market, and city.

As for Linden, nobody can overlook or dispute what he meant to the city. He ALMOST willed home the Stanley Cup amongst a team of underdogs. Not to take anything away from his leadership and heart but to quote Dom Toretto: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile..."

These 3 all bring completely different elements to any discussion and argument and its unfair to compare them directly with each other. Given the choice to pick one of the above three, the clearcut choice for me is the only one who isn't honoured as a Canuck thus far.

spoon.ek9
07-30-2011, 10:59 PM
this debate could go on forever.. they all brought different things to the table. as important as our team's past may be, i for one am a lot more focused on it's immediate future.

AzNightmare
07-31-2011, 04:52 AM
this debate could go on forever.. they all brought different things to the table. as important as our team's past may be, i for one am a lot more focused on it's immediate future.

:okay: ... but... there is nothing to focus on right now. News is so slow...
we need to debate about apples, oranges, and banannas. This thread is moving now.

punkwax
07-31-2011, 08:35 AM
I feel bad for Bure: essentially run out of Vancouver when he was shafted and kicked around by team management. DESPITE the way he left, the number of Canucks fans who feel he should be honoured for his time and contribution speaks volumes to the magnitude of player he was for us. He got a bad rap for the way he conducted himself in the Vancouver public, but let's remember his age and maturity level when he was here, and there are numberous stories about current Canucks that are not exactly flattering either.

I feel equally bad for Naslund: left to whither away with the weight of Canuck Nation on his shoulders, the same Canuck Nation that you can argue he rebuilt after the unfortunate Messier/Keenan years, but left speachless with no answers when it counted the most. I am glad that he was finally recognized for his contributions to the team, market, and city.

As for Linden, nobody can overlook or dispute what he meant to the city. He ALMOST willed home the Stanley Cup amongst a team of underdogs. Not to take anything away from his leadership and heart but to quote Dom Toretto: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile..."

These 3 all bring completely different elements to any discussion and argument and its unfair to compare them directly with each other. Given the choice to pick one of the above three, the clearcut choice for me is the only one who isn't honoured as a Canuck thus far.

Bang on.

CRS
08-01-2011, 12:55 PM
Long speculated, finally announced.

The Vancouver Canucks, in conjunction with the Chicago Wolves, named Craig MacTavish as head coach of the Canucks AHL affiliate on Monday.

MacTavish becomes the eighth head coach in the Wolves' franchise history. The London, Ontario, native joins the Wolves after eight seasons as head coach of the Edmonton Oilers.

"We are thrilled to have Craig join our organization," said Canucks president and general manager Mike Gillis. "He brings a wealth of knowledge and experience that will be invaluable as we continue to develop our players and create a winning environment in Chicago."

During MacTavish's tenure with the Oilers, the 52-year-old led the team to a 301-252-47-56 record in 656 regular season games from 2000 to 2009. Highlighted by a Stanley Cup Final appearance in 2006, MacTavish also posted a career winning record in the playoffs, going 19-17.

MacTavish became the 36th coach in NHL history to win 300-or-more games, accomplishing the feat during the 2008.09 season. At the conclusion of his tenure with the Oilers, MacTavish ranked 36th all-time in wins and 41st in games coached in the history of the NHL.

After leaving the Oilers organization following the 2008-09 season, MacTavish earned a master's degree in business from Queen's University.

Prior to being named head coach of Edmonton, MacTavish spent the 1999-2000 season as an assistant coach with the Oilers and two seasons as an assistant coach with the New York Rangers, beginning in 1997-98.

Canucks name MacTavish new head coach of AHL affiliate (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372991)

spoon.ek9
08-01-2011, 11:21 PM
does this mean we don't have to see MacT bob his head while he talks on TSN panels anymore? :D

shawn79
08-01-2011, 11:28 PM
everytime i see someone bump thing thread i get excited

but see something unrelated to canucks :okay:

DanHibiki
08-02-2011, 12:08 AM
everytime i see someone bump thing thread i get excited

but see something unrelated to canucks :okay:

boobies.


:troll:

spideyv2
08-02-2011, 12:55 PM
so it was a hip injury, not groin

Vancouver, BC Vancouver Canucks President and General Manager Mike Gillis announced today that centre Ryan Kesler had successful hip labral surgery.

“After consultation with our team physicians following the playoffs, it was deemed that Ryan would require a procedure on his hip,” said President and General Manager, Mike Gillis. “We expect a full recovery and determined this procedure would best serve both Ryan and the team’s long term goals.”

Kesler will be available to media at a future date

Canucks Centre Ryan Kesler has successful hip labral surgery - Vancouver Canucks - News (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=585634)

hypediss
08-02-2011, 01:09 PM
^ says 10 to 12 weeks recovery time in the link... and the season starts oct 6th for us.. thats about 9 weeks-ish?


does that mean he's not starting for us :okay:

shawn79
08-02-2011, 01:10 PM
so it was a hip injury, not groin



Canucks Centre Ryan Kesler has successful hip labral surgery - Vancouver Canucks - News (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=585634)

thomas got a hip surgury 2 seasons ago and with his new hip he turned god-like.

lets hope the same for keslord :fullofwin:

highfive
08-02-2011, 01:19 PM
Kesler / Samuellson / Raymond.. All out in the beginning of the season.

Hogdson better step the fuck up.

Expresso
08-02-2011, 01:27 PM
thomas got a hip surgury 2 seasons ago and with his new hip he turned god-like.

lets hope the same for keslord :fullofwin:

Didn't he suck ass the season he came back then went fire the season after? Do we have to wait that long ahah

shawn79
08-02-2011, 01:37 PM
yeah lets suck next season and wait for parise UFA thats when kesler hip will be on fire :troll:

sonick
08-02-2011, 02:01 PM
Let's hope it's his hip that's on fire and not his groin. Coz burning sensations in the groin are a whole other issue entirely.

CRS
08-02-2011, 02:12 PM
Let's hope it's his hip that's on fire and not his groin. Coz burning sensations in the groin are a whole other issue entirely.

Sounds like you know from experiences.

;)

spoon.ek9
08-02-2011, 02:28 PM
so CoHo will have a solid 3-4 weeks to play for us. great opportunity for him, hope he pulls thru!

Expresso
08-02-2011, 03:01 PM
yeah lets suck next season and wait for parise UFA thats when kesler hip will be on fire :troll:

Haha do people think we have cap space to sign Parise?! Where do Burrows and Edler fit into this scenario when they are FA in 2 years?

jeedee
08-02-2011, 04:01 PM
There's something called the salary cap going up and trading Ballard? :troll:
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spoon.ek9
08-02-2011, 04:46 PM
i hope Ballard's confidence hasn't been completely crushed after last year. Hopefully he can respond the way Bieksa did last year. Remember, the large majority of us figured Juice was headed out of town ;)

spideyv2
08-02-2011, 04:49 PM
I heard Rome will be taking over keslers spot as 2nd line centre. Ballard will be scratched in favour of Alberts, Tanev, and Parent
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Ronin
08-02-2011, 05:00 PM
I doubt we can afford Parise as a UFA. He'll be demanding $6m+ I'm sure and that would mean that we have close to $30m locked up with the Sedins, Kesler, Luongo and Parise.

Everyone is just assuming the cap goes up but the CBA is up in 2012 and I'm almost SURE the owners aren't particularly happy with the current structure of the deal which has tons of loopholes and shit everywhere. I'm not saying the cap won't go up but we can be sure that the CBA after 2012 will be different and just assuming that we'll have room to go after a big ticket UFA is silly.

Wait til we know more...and then we can be excited about getting someone here (not to mention we have to think about Edler and Burr to re-sign soon). I'd like to think we're slightly smarter here than CDC.

I heard Rome will be taking over keslers spot as 2nd line centre. Ballard will be scratched in favour of Alberts, Tanev, and Parent
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#RomeForSelke

i hope Ballard's confidence hasn't been completely crushed after last year. Hopefully he can respond the way Bieksa did last year. Remember, the large majority of us figured Juice was headed out of town ;)

From what I'm hearing, Ballard started the year after hip surgery and never got into the groove of AV's system. They had a talk at the end of the year and Ballard is committed to improving himself for next year and proving that he deserves a top-4 spot. Not sure how much of this is true...but Ballard has shown that he can be a good player in the past. Give him a second shot. Remember how many were calling for Bieksa's head and how many of those changed their tune when they heard of his 5-year deal.

LSF22
08-02-2011, 05:52 PM
Alex Ovechkin Lends His Likeness to a Canadian Candy Bar (http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2011/07/29/alex-ovechkin-lends-his-likeness-to-a-canadian-candy-bar/)


Back to the Canucks, not sure if anyone seen this, sorry if it is a repost
http://youtu.be/zk3Tzo0Sm_g

spoon.ek9
08-02-2011, 06:07 PM
From what I'm hearing, Ballard started the year after hip surgery and never got into the groove of AV's system. They had a talk at the end of the year and Ballard is committed to improving himself for next year and proving that he deserves a top-4 spot. Not sure how much of this is true...but Ballard has shown that he can be a good player in the past. Give him a second shot. Remember how many were calling for Bieksa's head and how many of those changed their tune when they heard of his 5-year deal.

don't get me wrong here, i want ballard to succeed. it's just that he has shortest of leashes when it comes to playing for AV. an NHL top 4 dman who played at BEST 15mins/game on our team when he averaged over 20mins/game with florida. having him start the year injury free will give us a better look but we also need AV to allow ballard to make some mistakes and keep playing.

punkwax
08-02-2011, 08:24 PM
I hate to put so much pressure on 2 guys, but if Ballard and Hodgson perform well and provide some output this season the Canucks are in good shape for another deep run.

If not, we likely won't be as competitive as we were last season. I hate to say it, but its true. We're down some key guys and those roles need to be filled. On paper, we have the players to do it. They just need to get the job done.
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Hondaracer
08-02-2011, 08:31 PM
my video i did a quick edit to try and get at least a new song for the nucks intro, as I posted up i'd loveeee to see ACDC - For those about to rock, but really any change from U2 would be great..

‪Canucks Intro NEW SONG - ACDC FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK‬‏ - YouTube

Ronin
08-02-2011, 10:27 PM
Someone find me an instrumental version of the Shawn Michaels theme.

AzNightmare
08-02-2011, 10:48 PM
Didn't he suck ass the season he came back then went fire the season after? Do we have to wait that long ahah

Thomas sucked ass in 2009-2010. Pretty much lost his starter job to Rask.
Got surgery in summer of 2010. Plays like a god in 2010-2011.
The surgery was effective immediately the next season.

my video i did a quick edit to try and get at least a new song for the nucks intro, as I posted up i'd loveeee to see ACDC - For those about to rock, but really any change from U2 would be great..

‪Canucks Intro NEW SONG - ACDC FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43jWguND12s)

While everyone has their own taste of music... I can't stand that type of rock... and I cannot make out a single word that's being sung. =/

shawn79
08-02-2011, 11:01 PM
Someone find me an instrumental version of the Shawn Michaels theme.

:fullofwin:

‪WWF Raw - SNES Soundtrack - Shawn Michaels Theme‬‏ - YouTube

Ronin
08-03-2011, 12:40 AM
LOL I need the real thing. Does it even exist?

Quick search shows nothing...no instrumental Sexy Boy.

Tim Budong
08-03-2011, 01:33 AM
LOL I need the real thing. Does it even exist?

Quick search shows nothing...no instrumental Sexy Boy.

ive been lookin since we had this discussion hahahaha

Ronin
08-03-2011, 02:04 AM
"KESLER SHOOTS HE SCORESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!"

(goal horn)

DUN DUN DUN DUN OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

THEN FIREWORKS

Someone needs to find the instrumental. We cannot be the only ones that think this is brilliant. CANUCKS NATION NEEDS TO SEE IT.

RiceIntegraRS
08-03-2011, 06:38 AM
Ronin ur really pushing for the Shawn Micheals theme arent u? To bad Dj Dave is a horrible dj, itll probably never happen

Vansterdam
08-03-2011, 06:55 AM
Canucks Community -> DJ Dave's Musings.... (http://forum.canucks.com/blog/17-dj-daves-musings/)

lol his song selection sucks

i think detroit has the best DJ

b0unce. [?]
08-03-2011, 10:11 AM
man i wish the season would starttttttt

MR_BIGGS
08-03-2011, 10:18 AM
Sharp resigned with Hawks for 5 years at 5.9 per...ouch.

highfive
08-03-2011, 10:22 AM
Out of all their big names players, the Hawks really overpaid for Kane. Toews/Sharp/Keith/Seabrook and even Hossa is better than Kane.

CRS
08-03-2011, 10:33 AM
Sharp resigned with Hawks for 5 years at 5.9 per...ouch.

Wowwwwwww. Faak, chicago is blowing up their salary on so few players.

d1
08-03-2011, 10:36 AM
6.3 for kane is overpayment? I'd consider that a good deal for a 22yr old who has been a ppg player (regular and post season) since entering the league.

spoon.ek9
08-03-2011, 10:42 AM
they can fuck up their salary as much as they want for all i care :D

fuck chicago

spideyv2
08-03-2011, 10:44 AM
Out of all their big names players, the Hawks really overpaid for Kane. Toews/Sharp/Keith/Seabrook and even Hossa is better than Kane.

yeah bro, the same guy who scored the stanley cup winning goal right?
deff over payment. It's not like he's young and talented or anything?

7seven
08-03-2011, 10:50 AM
@WharnsCBCSPORTS
Tim Wharnsby
Nashville's Shea Weber is awarded a$7.5 million salary arbitration.

Nashville's offer in arbitration was $4.5mil. This makes Weber a RFA again next year and Nashville no longer has the option to take him to arbitration again next year.

**edit actually that was $4.75mil NSH offered and Weber submitted $8.5mil

Gumby
08-03-2011, 10:59 AM
Ouch - these salary arbitration cases can be pretty ugly. If you were Weber, how can you put faith in your organization?

hypediss
08-03-2011, 11:04 AM
its either him or suter methinks

7seven
08-03-2011, 11:06 AM
Ouch - these salary arbitration cases can be pretty ugly. If you were Weber, how can you put faith in your organization?

Yup, can you imagine what Polie was saying to justify why Weber really only is a $4.75 mil/yr D.

Doughty and his agent must be happy now, they were waiting for Weber's ruling to set Doughty's worth and that's why he hasn't signed yet.

411ken
08-03-2011, 11:16 AM
How much do you guys think Doughty will get? I think it will be 6.5-7m?

b0unce. [?]
08-03-2011, 12:09 PM
doughty will probably get 6.
hawks paid sharp way too much lol

spoon.ek9
08-03-2011, 12:17 PM
holy shit $7.5mil cap hit :lol

punkwax
08-03-2011, 12:26 PM
Weber is worth every penny.
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LSF22
08-03-2011, 01:17 PM
Anyone catch Bieksa, Tanev and Oreskovich on TSN Off the record today?

sonick
08-03-2011, 01:20 PM
Anyone catch Bieksa, Tanev and Oreskovich on TSN Off the record today?

No, link?

jeedee
08-03-2011, 01:55 PM
No, link?

It was just on at 2pm today..should be a rerun later today.

CanucksHD on youtube should have a link up in a bit
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shawn79
08-03-2011, 02:24 PM
6.3 for kane is overpayment? I'd consider that a good deal for a 22yr old who has been a ppg player (regular and post season) since entering the league.

kane for 6.3 is a steal

7.5 for weber? :fuckthatshit:

How much do you guys think Doughty will get? I think it will be 6.5-7m?

6.1mill 5 year

jack johnson is a bargain

LSF22
08-03-2011, 03:32 PM
No, link?

Not from CanucksHD but here you go

Off The Record : OTR Panel (http://watch.tsn.ca/off-the-record/clip511139#clip511139)

BlackZRoadster
08-03-2011, 05:16 PM
How much do you guys think Doughty will get? I think it will be 6.5-7m?

i doughty he will get 7 :troll:

Grandmaster TSE
08-03-2011, 05:25 PM
ive been lookin since we had this discussion hahahaha

we always have this discussion when we meet up haha

Hondaracer
08-03-2011, 05:26 PM
next year nucks put together a package to sign Weber

the way the nucks are built right now, their "first round pick" will almost annually be a late rounder, so almost a 2nd rounder basically

4 second rounders for arguably the best dman in the league at the age of 26?

i'm down

Ronin
08-03-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm curious as to why Weber will be an RFA at the end of this 1-year deal instead of a UFA.

Next year will be his 7th year in the NHL. He only played 28 games in his first year but that should be enough to kick off his entry level contract, no? The UFA rule is 27 or 7. He's 25 but he will have played 7 years in the NHL after the coming season.

Can someone that understands the CBA better than me explain this one?

spideyv2
08-03-2011, 07:23 PM
I'm curious as to why Weber will be an RFA at the end of this 1-year deal instead of a UFA.

Next year will be his 7th year in the NHL. He only played 28 games in his first year but that should be enough to kick off his entry level contract, no? The UFA rule is 27 or 7. He's 25 but he will have played 7 years in the NHL after the coming season.

Can someone that understands the CBA better than me explain this one?

was thinking the exact same

edit- maybe it's because his birthday is August 14th, after the regular season ends..the rule might only apply with players who turn 27 before it ends? no idea

jeedee
08-03-2011, 07:46 PM
I'm curious as to why Weber will be an RFA at the end of this 1-year deal instead of a UFA.

Next year will be his 7th year in the NHL. He only played 28 games in his first year but that should be enough to kick off his entry level contract, no? The UFA rule is 27 or 7. He's 25 but he will have played 7 years in the NHL after the coming season.

Can someone that understands the CBA better than me explain this one?

in the 05/06 season, Weber was 9 games short of the 40 game requirement to give him a 7th accrued season like you mentioned.

That's why he'll be a UFA in the 2012/2013 season. That's when he'll have the 7 seasons to become a UFA.
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411ken
08-03-2011, 08:33 PM
;7533241']
hawks paid sharp way too much lol

Really? I personally thought that Sharp is worth the money. wasn't he in top 10 in scoring past season? Poor Sharp is so underrated it's not even funny.. He plays hard every shift and scores..

I guess that's what happens when you are in the shadow of Kane/Toews/Hossa/Keith/Seabrook... but works for him..


(I just hope Kesler doesn't get brought up as a comparison) lol


GOOD signing by the hawks

Ronin
08-03-2011, 08:46 PM
in the 05/06 season, Weber was 9 games short of the 40 game requirement to give him a 7th accrued season like you mentioned.

That's why he'll be a UFA in the 2012/2013 season. That's when he'll have the 7 seasons to become a UFA.
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Really? Because we always hear about teams sending rookies down after 9 games so they don't play 10 and invoke the first year of their entry level contract. I assumed that 10 games was enough to count toward the UFA requirement since it counts as a year of contract time.

This current CBA is just full of holes.

dim_sum
08-03-2011, 08:47 PM
Hossa for real? what did he do for them in their last two playoff runs lol

Out of all their big names players, the Hawks really overpaid for Kane. Toews/Sharp/Keith/Seabrook and even Hossa is better than Kane.

Gh0stRider
08-03-2011, 08:50 PM
Some nice upgrades for rogers arena. New lcd screens going up, old crt going out.

New canucks wallpaper going up as well.
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Hondaracer
08-03-2011, 09:23 PM
LCD instead of CRT in the concourse?

punkwax
08-03-2011, 09:40 PM
Kane is easy to hate, but he's dangerous every time he has the puck. 6.3 is about right I'd say. And Sharp is worth the money too. Hell of a player. Hawks have an INCREDIBLE core.
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b0unce. [?]
08-03-2011, 11:10 PM
Really? I personally thought that Sharp is worth the money. wasn't he in top 10 in scoring past season? Poor Sharp is so underrated it's not even funny.. He plays hard every shift and scores..

I guess that's what happens when you are in the shadow of Kane/Toews/Hossa/Keith/Seabrook... but works for him..


(I just hope Kesler doesn't get brought up as a comparison) lol


GOOD signing by the hawks

he's good, i just think the majority of the players' salary is being inflated right now from guys like richards, kovalchuck etc.. list goes on. as good as weber is, i think he should have gotten 6mil. 7.5 is fine, but remember, the arbitrators felt that he deserved 8~ give or take.

Ronin
08-03-2011, 11:24 PM
Sharp is worth that kind of money.

We might be thinking he isn't worth a salary that's only 200k less than the Sedins, who have 23 and 33 more points than him but that's an unfair comparison as the Sedins signed their deal when they were in Sharp's point range AND they took less than they would've gotten on the open market to stay in Vancouver.

You really can't compare the salaries with the ones on the Canucks. We sometimes think they're ridiculous but almost to the man, every Canuck is being paid less than they could've gotten elsewhere. EVEN LUONGO. There are 7 goalies ahead of his $5.33m cap hit.

Sharp's numbers are roughly equivalent to Kesler's but he's getting paid more. Who would you rather have...even if their salaries were equivalent?

The Canucks roster is a bargain. We need to gift Mike Gillis with frankincense and myrrh.

shawn79
08-03-2011, 11:25 PM
thanks to the new cap, players value r now inflated

jeedee
08-03-2011, 11:28 PM
;7534049']as good as weber is, i think he should have gotten 6mil. 7.5 is fine, but remember, the arbitrators felt that he deserved 8~ give or take.

6mill? So what your saying is: Timonen, phaneuf, redden, boyle, bouwmeester and campbell (who all earn more than 6M) are better than Weber?

I thought 7.5M was fair considering the fact Weber is just 26, hasn't reached his full potential in his career and was a top 3 candidate for the Norris.

Weber/his agent thought he was worth 8M, not the arbitrator. The Preds offered 4.5M which was smart on their end, hoping the arbitrator would choose between 4.5 and 8M, ending up with 7.5M.
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snowball
08-04-2011, 12:03 AM
6mill? So what your saying is: Timonen, phaneuf, redden, boyle, bouwmeester and campbell (who all earn more than 6M) are better than Weber?

I thought 7.5M was fair considering the fact Weber is just 26, hasn't reached his full potential in his career and was a top 3 candidate for the Norris.

Weber/his agent thought he was worth 8M, not the arbitrator. The Preds offered 4.5M which was smart on their end, hoping the arbitrator would choose between 4.5 and 8M, ending up with 7.5M.
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Or the preds could've offered him 6.5 mil early on and potentially saved themselves from going to arbitration and an additional 1mil/year.

jeedee
08-04-2011, 12:09 AM
Or the preds could've offered him 6.5 mil early on and potentially saved themselves from going to arbitration and an additional 1mil/year.

Should've, could've, would've but I'm sure the Preds offered 6.5~ for a number of years earlier. IMO all signs are pointing to the fact Weber wants out. Sign the 1 year deal, see how the Preds do next year, and decide his future in NSH with Suter and Rinne.

It'll be real interesting next year when Suter and Rinne become UFAs. They're both due for a significant raises.
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clowe
08-04-2011, 12:09 AM
The Preds probably didn't want to bash or say too many negative things about the face of their franchise in the hearing and ruin any possibility of extending him long-term.

Gh0stRider
08-04-2011, 07:21 AM
LCD instead of CRT in the concourse?

Yup
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RacingMetro92
08-04-2011, 09:24 AM
From Canucks facebook: Media Release: Canucks have signed Owen Nolan and Todd Fedoruk to professional tryout contracts.

MR_BIGGS
08-04-2011, 09:28 AM
Nolan is 39 years old??

Gumby
08-04-2011, 09:44 AM
Trivia question: Who was selected immediately after Owen Nolan? :p

7seven
08-04-2011, 09:53 AM
Trivia question: Who was selected immediately after Owen Nolan? :p

haha I was at that draft in person, yup I'm old. We got Nedved.

If Nolan makes this team, we're in trouble. No Kesler or Raymond for 2nd line to start the year.

411ken
08-04-2011, 09:57 AM
bring on the "sign linden and nazzy to PTO" posts haha.. jk

I've always like Nolan.. his "call" goal against hasek is still awesome to this day.

I was just looking a the available FA and I wonder how much Drury wants.I just noticed he is still available. I wonder if he'll sign for 1 mil-1.5mil/1 year deal or something? (IF healthy)

Sedins/Burr
Samuelsson/Kes/Sturm
Hansen/Manny/Drury (If manny isn't 100% yet or have probs.. Hansen/Drury/Higgins sounds good too)
Winchester/Laps/Bitz

plus we still have Hodgson/Higgins/Raymond (when he's healthy) to switch around...

just a thought :P

dbaz
08-04-2011, 09:58 AM
4th line of fedoruk-lapp-nolan o god. Could be epic or horrible haha
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spideyv2
08-04-2011, 11:04 AM
if fedoruk signs then i guess no winchester? hopefully nolan can still skate

411ken
08-04-2011, 11:15 AM
For me i'd rather have Winchester > Fedoruk

trancehead
08-04-2011, 12:10 PM
Vancouver is a desirable city to play in clearly

CRS
08-04-2011, 12:31 PM
I wouldn't look too much into PTOs.

jeedee
08-04-2011, 12:43 PM
I wouldn't look too much into PTOs.

Agreed. Not many players make the team with them. Interesting stat:

@mattsekeres: Nolan, 39, was a point-per-game player in the Swiss league last year, Fedoruk sat out the season, played 50 games for TBL in 2009-10.
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Tim Budong
08-04-2011, 12:48 PM
‪Off the Record with Bieksa, Tanev & Oreskovich - 2011 - HD‬‏ - YouTube

Hondaracer
08-04-2011, 01:18 PM
Neither will make it
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PornMaster
08-04-2011, 01:44 PM
NHL (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1230)

fedoruk sounds like a big ass liability

shawn79
08-04-2011, 02:48 PM
cammalleri is a freaking superstar!!!

jeedee
08-04-2011, 03:13 PM
I actually wouldn't mind Nolan. Although he's 40 in Februrary, I'd like to see him with the Sedins. The twins have always been pushed around and someone like Nolan stands up for his FUTURE teammates :thumbsup:

Dank - Hank - Nolan
Higgins - Kesler - Burrows

Burrows would be bumped to the second line when Kesler's healthy I guess. They both have a ton of chemistry proven in G6 and G7 vs the Hawks.
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krazynuck
08-04-2011, 03:20 PM
Nolan is a gold medal winner :fullofwin:

shawn79
08-04-2011, 03:22 PM
whats a 40 yr old man gonna do with back to back art ross winners?

didnt some guy from cdc say stop treating our franchise players (sedins) like cheap hookers letting every big man on the right wing take a ride on them. Keep a dirty canadian who will pick up the trash for the sedins (burrows)

http://files.sharenator.com/lol_face_RE_Mass_Effect_3_s274x280_128653_580_RE_E ven_more_Pictures_D-s274x280-202059-580.jpg

jeedee
08-04-2011, 03:36 PM
whats a 40 yr old man gonna do with back to back art ross winners?

didnt some guy from cdc say stop treating our franchise players (sedins) like cheap hookers letting every big man on the right wing take a ride on them. Keep a dirty canadian who will pick up the trash for the sedins (burrows)


Uh stand up for them? Nolan will make guys think twice about pushing the Sedins around. Burrows isn't really the intimidating type..
Bure had Gino to back him up, why not have Nolan backup the Sedins?

Who cares what a guy on CDC says. That forum is a bunch of idiots like you shawn :troll:
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shawn79
08-04-2011, 03:38 PM
yeah appearantly u said shit like that and i responded then got banned, maybe cause it was too harsh for the public to know what i said... :okay:

jeedee
08-04-2011, 03:42 PM
No you got tempbanned for talking shit about skinnypupp lololol (from what I read in the jersey thread that is)
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shawn79
08-04-2011, 03:43 PM
No.

i dont want to be permaban

Happy
08-04-2011, 05:00 PM
The twins have always been pushed around and someone like Nolan stands up for his FUTURE teammates
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or the twins can just grow a pair of balls like crosby did and actually retailiate back sometimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40MP7VINzpg

sedins are couple of the best players in the nhl, but that shit is just sad.

saveth
08-04-2011, 05:03 PM
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RiceIntegraRS
08-04-2011, 05:12 PM
or the twins can just grow a pair of balls like crosby did and actually retailiate back sometimes

‪sedin doing nothing about getting punched by marchand‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40MP7VINzpg)

sedins are couple of the best players in the nhl, but that shit is just sad.

The Sedins dont have to do anything. The refs completely fucked up there. U dont want anymore Steve Moore Type incidents? Then the refs and the NHL have to stop it from the very beginning. If players like Marchand are aloud to punch people at will without any consesquences, then whats stopping someone else from sucker punching Marchand in retaliation?

Yeah it is sad, its sad that the NHL is a fucking joke. Call the game the same way for 82 Games, and once playoffs starts new rules are in effect. Way to be consistent NHL

LSF22
08-04-2011, 05:49 PM
^ lol not trying to :troll: but I'll never understand how people can have 98% grammar and spelling, but when it comes to "there" vs "their" vs "they're", or "allowed" vs "aloud" or "you're" vs "your", they can't tell the difference (or they're just too lazy)

Hondaracer
08-04-2011, 05:51 PM
If the sedins retaliated when they were getting tossed around like that everyone would have said the Bruins got them off their game

it was a lose lose situation and it was gross

DanHibiki
08-04-2011, 05:54 PM
If the sedins retaliated when they were getting tossed around like that everyone would have said the Bruins got them off their game

it was a lose lose situation and it was gross

Exactly.

Remember last year against Chicago when Daniel Fought back against Ladd in game 6?

Everyone said exactly that, Sedins were put off their game, Ladd did his job, Sedins need to worry about scoring, etc.

Happy
08-04-2011, 06:17 PM
If the sedins retaliated when they were getting tossed around like that everyone would have said the Bruins got them off their game

it was a lose lose situation and it was gross

refs are usually lenient towards post whistle scrums and let you defend yourself
you could both get a penalty or neither would get a penalty
either get tossed around and potentially get injured one day
or defend urself, stop being an easy target to hit and take someone to the box with you

‪Marchands Hip Check on D.Sedin‬‏ - YouTube

i find it embarrassing to just stand there after getting hip checked

i think marchand did a great job throwing the sedins off their game because sedins couldn't even get a goal in game 7

canucks rely on the sedins wayyyy too much

spideyv2
08-04-2011, 06:27 PM
Gotta give the Bruins props for pulling through without Savard and bouncing back after Horton got injured. Marchand made the Canucks look like n00bs, and definitely did a good job getting into their heads.

lol even Recchi looked like Bure out there at some points in game 7

tr0ubl3s0m3x
08-04-2011, 06:37 PM
Hopefully Fedoruk can bring more than this to the table :troll:
‪Todd Fedoruk vs Colton Orr‬‏ - YouTube

Hondaracer
08-04-2011, 06:44 PM
refs are usually lenient towards post whistle scrums and let you defend yourself
you could both get a penalty or neither would get a penalty
either get tossed around and potentially get injured one day
or defend urself, stop being an easy target to hit and take someone to the box with you

‪Marchands Hip Check on D.Sedin‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXXkxLNsr4)

i find it embarrassing to just stand there after getting hip checked

i think marchand did a great job throwing the sedins off their game because sedins couldn't even get a goal in game 7

canucks rely on the sedins wayyyy too much

"defend yourself and take somone to the penalty box"

yea because refs ALWAYS pull both people out of scrums right?.. :speechless:

rsx
08-04-2011, 07:03 PM
Man Marchand was a beast in that sequence. How old is this kid??

spideyv2
08-04-2011, 07:19 PM
Man Marchand was a beast in that sequence. How old is this kid??

judging by his height, 15? judging by his nose, 21+ :troll:

Gumby
08-04-2011, 10:30 PM
Fuck, every time I see that clip of Marchand using Sedin as a punching bag, it makes me RAGE.

"Because you felt like it?"

Well fuck, last time I checked, you don't even have a contract for the upcoming season yet, you fucker.

b0unce. [?]
08-04-2011, 10:56 PM
reminiscing of the playoffs makes me cry. lets stop talking about it lol

hypediss
08-04-2011, 11:41 PM
I thot this was the 2011/2012 thread not the 2010/2011 season we buried deep behind us
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spideyv2
08-05-2011, 01:07 AM
Fuck, every time I see that clip of Marchand using Sedin as a punching bag, it makes me RAGE.

"Because you felt like it?"

Well fuck, last time I checked, you don't even have a contract for the upcoming season yet, you fucker.

Cant believe hes still not resigned even tho hes rfa. Im drunk
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7seven
08-05-2011, 06:23 AM
Why am I not surprised

Report: Sean Avery arrested after shoving cop

Sean Avery is reportedly in trouble again after a party at his Los Angeles area home.

According to website TMZ.com, the New York Rangers forward was charged for battery on a peace officer, after police were called to his Hollywood Hills, California, home early Friday, responding to a noise complaint from a neighbour.

According to the website, Avery answered the door when police arrived and allegedly pushed the police officer before slamming the door.

He reportedly opened the door when police knocked a second time and then became cooperative, according to TMZ.

He was booked on $20,000 US bail.



Read more: Report: Sean Avery arrested after shoving cop (http://www.canada.com/Report+Sean+Avery+arrested+after+shoving/5211326/story.html#ixzz1UAFu7sLw)

411ken
08-05-2011, 07:00 AM
If the sedins didn't want to punch back at marchand, he should have atleast kept smiling or smirk rather than just waiting for someone to save him lol.

oh well.. move on haha.. should've.. would've.. could've

Happy
08-05-2011, 12:32 PM
Fuck, every time I see that clip of Marchand using Sedin as a punching bag, it makes me RAGE.

"Because you felt like it?"

Well fuck, last time I checked, you don't even have a contract for the upcoming season yet, you fucker.

well atleast he has a cup
can't say the same about sedins

b0unce. [?]
08-05-2011, 12:35 PM
lol @ avery

yep, not surprised.

New York Rangers forward Sean Avery was arrested at his home early Friday morning for battery on a police officer in Hollywood Hills, California.

The Associated Press reports that Avery was jailed for seven hours before being released after he posted $20,000 bail.

According to NBC New York, Avery was having a party at his home when noise complaints from neighbours twice brought police to investigate.

On the officers' second visit, the report said that Avery allegedly argued with police and pushed an officer out of the way to go back inside his house.

The report added that Avery closed the door and refused to speak to officers. After additional police were called to the scene, Avery eventually did come out and co-operated and was arrested for battery of a police officer.

A Rangers spokesperson said that they will discuss the matter with Avery and have no further comment at this time.

The NHL is also investigating the situation, but isn't commenting at this time.

Not really racist!
08-05-2011, 08:39 PM
so i met gary valk today, had a 5 mins chat with him about hockey and his life

pretty down to earth guy.

kluk
08-05-2011, 08:43 PM
lol @ spelling mistakes

Ronin
08-05-2011, 10:21 PM
so i met gary valk today, had a 5 mins chat with him about hockey and his life

pretty down to earth guy.

Whoa...whoa...WHOA....

Former Canuck turned analyst....G. VALK!? :D

DanHibiki
08-06-2011, 12:54 AM
Gary you dropped your pen there, there we go.
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Not really racist!
08-06-2011, 12:02 PM
lol hes a nice guy

Gumby
08-08-2011, 11:58 AM
From http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=373449

It didn't take long for newly-signed Dan Carcillo to stoke the fire of the Chicago Blackhawks rivalry with the Vancouver Canucks.

Asked what he thought of the Canucks at his introductory press conference, Carcillo did what he does best.

"I watched that series and I'm actually pretty excited to play them because there's a few guys there that I think played a little bit outside of their shoes," Carcillo said. "I think I can keep most of those guys in check when we play them this year so I'm pretty excited to play them."

When asked to name specifically which players he had a problem with, the 26-year-old winger didn't hold back.

"Lapierre, Glass, and Torres. Just because. Lapierre's at the top of the list."

While Tanner Glass and Raffi Torres have since moved on from the Canucks - Glass signed with the Winnipeg Jets and Torres with the Phoenix Coyotes - Carcillo will get his wish to meet Lapierre in a Canucks uniform. The first of four meetings between the Blackhawks and Canucks is November 6 in Chicago.

Since when did they have introductory press conferences for mouth breathers like Carcillo, and does he not realize Torres & Glass are not with the team anymore?

What a dumbass.

7seven
08-08-2011, 12:37 PM
From Blackhawks' Carcillo wastes no time in calling out Canucks (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=373449)



Since when did they have introductory press conferences for mouth breathers like Carcillo, and does he not realize Torres & Glass are not with the team anymore?

What a dumbass.

To be fair to Carcillo, if Torres and Lapierre weren't on a team I was a fan of, I'd want them bitch slapped too. Glass is a non factor that is just a waste of space even as a Canucks fan.

Carcillo however is an idiot for not realizing Torres and Glass are no longer Canucks.

spoon.ek9
08-08-2011, 12:59 PM
meh, don't care what carcillo has to say.

DanHibiki
08-08-2011, 02:36 PM
From Blackhawks' Carcillo wastes no time in calling out Canucks (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=373449)



Since when did they have introductory press conferences for mouth breathers like Carcillo, and does he not realize Torres & Glass are not with the team anymore?

What a dumbass.

"Lapierre, Glass, and Torres. Just because. Lapierre's at the top of the list."

Little does he know, he is high up on his own list. :troll:

tonyzoomzoom
08-08-2011, 09:17 PM
can't wait for the games against the blackcocks

trancehead
08-08-2011, 10:53 PM
Spotted Winnipeg Jet Evander Kane at RIC this morning

goo3
08-09-2011, 04:11 AM
Dan Carcillo: reliable PIMs.

Ch28
08-09-2011, 02:14 PM
mirtle (http://twitter.com/#%21/mirtle) James Mirtle
Brian Burke's on @TSN1050Drive (http://twitter.com/TSN1050Drive) right now talking about how the Canucks were in talks to acquire Gretzky 23 years ago.

mirtle (http://twitter.com/#%21/mirtle) James Mirtle
Burke said the Oilers wanted three first-round picks, $18-million, Greg Adams and another player for just Gretzky.

shawn79
08-09-2011, 02:17 PM
Bure gretzky > hull gretzky
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Ronin
08-09-2011, 03:01 PM
I would've done that trade. Shit, people are saying we should trade 4 first rounders for Weber. Gretzky's worth at least 8 then.

Gumby
08-09-2011, 03:08 PM
I can see Gretzky being worth x number of 1st round picks and players A, B, and C, but how do they come up with the $18 million figure? :p

JesseBlue
08-09-2011, 04:06 PM
^ pocklinton needed the money...

spoon.ek9
08-09-2011, 05:35 PM
yup, LA was selling out their tickets but they were also dirt cheap at the time. scalpers were making a fortune because everyone wanted to see #99 play.

shawn79
08-09-2011, 05:57 PM
Oilers fan should be glad Pocklinton chose to keep the Oilers in Edmonton instead of Gretzky. It was one or the other. They won another cup without Gretzky in 1990 and now with two 1st overall picks... something to be happy for???

DanHibiki
08-09-2011, 06:18 PM
I can see Gretzky being worth x number of 1st round picks and players A, B, and C, but how do they come up with the $18 million figure? :p

What if the other player was bure? :troll:
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spoon.ek9
08-09-2011, 07:12 PM
yep, and ironically, gretzky never won another cup after leaving the oilers.

JesseBlue
08-09-2011, 07:57 PM
almost won once with the kings...