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hotshot1
06-23-2011, 01:35 PM
thats pointless for us to do....we better not even think to do that

I agree. First of all, Colorado's a divisional rival. Secondly, we need a top 6 player to play with Kesler, not a project who may or may not develop and even be an NHL caliber player.

krazynuck
06-23-2011, 01:39 PM
I agree. First of all, Colorado's a divisional rival. Secondly, we need a top 6 player to play with Kesler, not a project who may or may not develop and even be an NHL caliber player.

trading within your division is like dating a first cousin....shit just gets messed up

If Chris Stewart was still on Colorado I would maybe do 2nd or 11th pick and stewart...but even then I probably would want someone more physical

spideyv2
06-23-2011, 01:44 PM
LA Kings are a better team now. I can see them having a really good season this year

DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 01:51 PM
After the shakiness that happened to Lu last season, I can't imagine giving up Schneider.

I assumed next season Lu would be on a shorter leash and Schneider have more opportunities.

sonick
06-23-2011, 01:52 PM
Now watch Flyers use the cap room to give Bryz a $7.1 mil per year cap hit, which was rumored a couple days ago. Flyer fans are about to jump off a bridge, Richards was basically their Trevor Linden.

ding ding ding we have a winrar

Flyers have officially sign Bryzgalov to a 9-year, $51 million deal, giving him a $5.667M cap hit until he is 40 years old.

LUUUUUUUU
06-23-2011, 01:58 PM
DarrenDreger

Joe Nieuwendyk asked Brad Richards to waive his no-move clause today. Richards declined. less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

sonick
06-23-2011, 02:01 PM
DarrenDreger

Joe Nieuwendyk asked Brad Richards to waive his no-move clause today. Richards declined. less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Can anybody explain the motivation behind this? He is a Free Agent July 1st anyways, and can help his former team and employer by waiving it with little to no effect to him.

In fact, having his rights traded to a different team might increase his value as other teams who are looking at him may overbid knowing that the team with his rights has a head start on negotiations?

krazynuck
06-23-2011, 02:03 PM
Can anybody explain the motivation behind this? He is a Free Agent July 1st anyways, and can help his former team and employer by waiving it with little to no effect to him.

In fact, having his rights traded to a different team might increase his value as other teams who are looking at him may overbid knowing that the team with his rights has a head start on negotiations?

maybe the team that wants his negotiation rights is a team he does not want to play for or even talk with

mb_
06-23-2011, 02:04 PM
^He's being a :troll:

sonick
06-23-2011, 02:05 PM
maybe the team that wants his negotiation rights is a team he does not want to play for or even talk with

But he can pretty much just sit on his hands and wait it out until July 1st regardless, no?

^He's being a :troll:

Yeah, unless he just doesn't like the organization/management and wants to screw them over and burn a few bridges, I don't really understand why he would do that.

Gumby
06-23-2011, 02:06 PM
Brad Richards and Mike Richards - too confusing! :willnill:

Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2011, 02:06 PM
I guess B. Richards wants to have the ability to choose where he goes. On the other hand, could he not give a list of teams he would accept a trade to?

sonick
06-23-2011, 02:10 PM
I guess B. Richards wants to have the ability to choose where he goes. On the other hand, could he not give a list of teams he would accept a trade to?

But he will be a free agent July 1st regardless of whatever team he's on. Trading him will essentially give the team the right to talk and negotiate with his agent. Pretty much like what Hamuis went through last year.

krazynuck
06-23-2011, 02:10 PM
But he can pretty much just sit on his hands and wait it out until July 1st regardless, no?

maybe he thinks if other teams see him already talking to a team they will back off and use their money else where ASAP...

I guess B. Richards wants to have the ability to choose where he goes. On the other hand, could he not give a list of teams he would accept a trade to?

I wonder what the list would be

sonick
06-23-2011, 02:11 PM
maybe he thinks if other teams see him already talking to a team they will back off and use their money else where ASAP...

Good point, I can see that scenario as well.

Simulated
06-23-2011, 02:13 PM
I guess B. Richards wants to have the ability to choose where he goes. On the other hand, could he not give a list of teams he would accept a trade to?

he is unrestricted. come july 1st he can go anywhere he pleases. i think this move is just to stick it to dallas management.
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DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 02:14 PM
Can anybody explain the motivation behind this? He is a Free Agent July 1st anyways, and can help his former team and employer by waiving it with little to no effect to him.

In fact, having his rights traded to a different team might increase his value as other teams who are looking at him may overbid knowing that the team with his rights has a head start on negotiations?

I guess he doesn't wanna have to deal with his rights being traded to another team and have to talk to that GM??? Maybe he already has plans on what he wants to do come Jul 1st.

sonick
06-23-2011, 02:18 PM
I guess he doesn't wanna have to deal with his rights being traded to another team and have to talk to that GM??? Maybe he already has plans on what he wants to do come Jul 1st.

Perhaps, but I thought the Agents do all the talking? Be like "Hey, just humour them, I'll be by my pool with a beer in my hand... See you July 1st!"

Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
Thanks to Eklund constantly bringing up the Leafs to gain hits on his site, I have been well aware of Richards becoming a UFA for more than a year now. Looks like he just wants to screw the Stars over.

Apparently Burke offered a 2nd for his rights earlier today.

Edit: or he doesn't want to screw over a team he has no intention of signing with.

Ronin
06-23-2011, 03:09 PM
Why are so many people talking about Paul Stastny potentially coming to the Canucks?

Do we really want to trade for a guy that will instantly become the Canucks highest paid player AND will most likely play on the 2nd line? That's just silly.

Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 03:09 PM
ARMCHAIR GMs
PLEASE!

Ch28
06-23-2011, 03:38 PM
SportsnetSpec (http://mobile.twitter.com/sportsnetspec)
Also hearing Kris Versteeg next one out in Philly.

SportsnetSpec (http://mobile.twitter.com/sportsnetspec)
If Troy Brouwer is available in Chicago, as we're hearing, Vancouver should be calling. So should Toronto and Edmonton.

lol
06-23-2011, 03:49 PM
LA Kings are a better team now. I can see them having a really good season this year

Ya they would have made it to round 2 if they didn't have Kopitar and friends injured.

mb_
06-23-2011, 03:50 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
It is not done but CGY is working to acquire Ryan Smyth. Smyth has final say with his NTC but it may be as close as he gets to EDM. #tsn
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Just when your guys' mind hasn't been blow enough...

Gh0stRider
06-23-2011, 04:06 PM
Devin Setoguchi signs a three year deal with SJ, $2.75m, $3.0m, $3.25

spoon.ek9
06-23-2011, 04:23 PM
ding ding ding we have a winrar

Flyers have officially sign Bryzgalov to a 9-year, $51 million deal, giving him a $5.667M cap hit until he is 40 years old.

team 1040 was reporting $51.5mil so $5.72 cap hit. still a manageable number i suppose.

E-40six
06-23-2011, 04:24 PM
Luongo at 5.3 cap hit or Bryzgalov with 5.7 cap hit :troll:

kristianhay
06-23-2011, 04:55 PM
TSNBobMcKenzie: Here's Bryzgalov's year by year: $10M, $6.5M, $8M, $6M, $6M,, $5.5M, $5.5M $2.25M, $1.25M.

If anyone was wondering..

spideyv2
06-23-2011, 05:17 PM
If anyone was wondering..

lol that guy is definitely not a 10 million dollar goalie.
Makes Lu's contract look that much better

mb_
06-23-2011, 05:20 PM
Luongo at 5.3 cap hit or Bryzgalov with 5.7 cap hit :troll:

Schneider at 0.9 obviously :troll:
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spideyv2
06-23-2011, 05:21 PM
Mike Richards and Jeff Carter party pics. They have better taste than the Bruins :troll:

http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/00001dd1.jpg
http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/carterandrichards1.jpg
http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mike-richards-gina-lynn.jpg
http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mike-richards-party.jpg

jeedee
06-23-2011, 05:23 PM
:)

angus_j Jeff Angus
#Canucks - got word Bieksa contract is close to official. Cap hit close to $4.5 million.


angus_j Jeff Angus
Some more #Canucks stuff - not interested in futures for Schneider. Window to win is now. Have asked about Stastny.

Gh0stRider
06-23-2011, 05:30 PM
mike and gina lynn lol

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2011, 05:32 PM
After the shakiness that happened to Lu last season, I can't imagine giving up Schneider.

I assumed next season Lu would be on a shorter leash and Schneider have more opportunities.

WTF!? Coming off a season where your a Vezina Finalist, Winning the Jennings Trophy, and Taking the Team to the Stanley Cup Final and yet your on a short leash?

E-40six
06-23-2011, 05:35 PM
WTF!? Coming off a season where your a Vezina Finalist, Winning the Jennings Trophy, and Taking the Team to the Stanley Cup Final and yet your on a short leash?

They don't call vancouver the goalie graveyard for no reason. We only remember the shitty games and none of the good ones that luongo won.

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2011, 05:41 PM
I wish people would realise that Luongo is the best thing thats happened to Vancouver and hes been the most consistent Goalie in the NHL since hes played for us.

jeedee
06-23-2011, 05:44 PM
They don't call vancouver the goalie graveyard for no reason.

Uh no..."they" call Vancouver the "goalie graveyard" from all the past inconsistent goalies we had in the years.

We only remember the shitty games and none of the good ones that luongo won.

What do you mean "we"? The bandwagoners only remember the shitty games and none of the good ones Lu won. The real fans stick by Lu no matter what the result is.

GodZilla
06-23-2011, 05:44 PM
January 7th 2012 @ Boston against the bruins.

DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 05:45 PM
Man Ryan Smyth just can't stay away from the bar he owns in Edmonton can he?

hotshot1
06-23-2011, 05:49 PM
I'd love to have Stastny but at 6.6m... no thanks.

spideyv2
06-23-2011, 05:49 PM
:)

Damn..Imagine a line of
Stastny-Kesler-Raymond

DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 05:49 PM
I wish people would realise that Luongo is the best thing thats happened to Vancouver and hes been the most consistent Goalie in the NHL since hes played for us.

I'm a big Luongo supporter. But from the look of things, that's just the way it's gonna be next year as much as I don't like it.

E-40six
06-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Uh no..."they" call Vancouver the "goalie graveyard" from all the past inconsistent goalies we had in the years.



What do you mean "we"? The bandwagoners only remember the shitty games and none of the good ones Lu won. The real fans stick by Lu no matter what the result is.


What I mean when i say "we" is 75% of the "fans" out there who don't understand the game.

Lu has been great for us, consistantly putting up 33+ wins every season.

spideyv2
06-23-2011, 05:52 PM
I wish people would realise that Luongo is the best thing thats happened to Vancouver and hes been the most consistent Goalie in the NHL since hes played for us.

He's definitely been a good regular season goalie, but he hasn't been consistent enough in the playoffs. But I do think he's one of the best goalies we've ever had.

Laundry
06-23-2011, 05:54 PM
Apparently Versteeg is next out of Philly, what does anyone think about him on Kesler's wing?

His value shouldn't be that high, but I remember him being good against the nucks in the playoffs...

LSF22
06-23-2011, 06:44 PM
Damn..Imagine a line of
Stastny-Kesler-Raymond


richards (brad) - kesler - raymond/higgins

jigga250
06-23-2011, 06:52 PM
I'd much rather have Richards at 6.8 than Stastny at 6.6......him and Kesler would be a deadly 2nd line

Although theyre both centers, dunno if Richards can play wing

jeedee
06-23-2011, 06:54 PM
Kesler can play the wing. He needs someone to feed him the puck, and B.Richards fits into that role PERFECTLY.

dignatas
06-23-2011, 06:54 PM
damn that 2nd last picture... fucking great taste!!

and what the fuck at ed hardy and hockey players... they need a lesson on how to dress up to parties. @ Ovechkin and ripped jeans... no..

:facepalm:

Ronin
06-23-2011, 06:57 PM
Juice at $4.5 is a fair deal for everyone. I thought it would be slightly less like $4.25 but $4.5 is great.

LA is scary now. Kopitar + Richards is probably as good as Henrik + Kesler as 1-2 centers. All around good team...should be enough to challenge for the division lead at least, especially after Doughty is signed.

Versteeg is interesting but can't we get a guy that's consistent and not just "Oh, he has potential."?

Stastny is a good player but no way he's worth $6.6m to the Canucks. He's worth $6.6m to the Avs as he's one of their best players but here, he'd be second line.

Brad Richards means we say bye to Ehrhoff and possibly Bieksa and Salo. No way we'd fit him under the cap at what he's asking...especially to play 2nd line?!

What we need is someone in the $4m range...a playmaking winger like Martin St. Louis (obviously NOT MSL...just an example) to play with Kesler. Kesler strikes me as more of a finisher than setup man at this point so playmaking winger would fit like MSL does with Stamkos. People forget that Stamkos is a center...

GrapeDrink
06-23-2011, 07:22 PM
Devin Setoguchi signs a three year deal with SJ, $2.75m, $3.0m, $3.25

I think that is a pretty fair deal, with a pretty good chance he outperforms that deal but then again that is pretty much what I say with him every year. I think with him, he just needs to find some consistency his pre/post all stars are like two different worlds he went from 15 pts in 41 and a -14 to 26 pts in 31 and +12, if he comes anywhere near that 2nd half its a great deal imo.

dbaz
06-23-2011, 07:33 PM
wonder what they are going to do with the d because if they resign erhoff and bieksa i dont see ballard staying. especially with tanev emerging and av's favorite rome still signed for another year.

d1
06-23-2011, 07:38 PM
And people thought Bieksa would be gone after getting Hamhuis and Ballard last year..

Laundry
06-23-2011, 07:48 PM
And people thought Bieksa would be gone after getting Hamhuis and Ballard last year..

And he would be if Salo didn't have his floorball injury...

MR_BIGGS
06-23-2011, 08:07 PM
With Dan Hamuis having surgery he may not be ready for the start of training camp. That is exactly what happened to Ballard this year. He didn't get to train in the off-season and it showed all season. I hope this doesn't happen to Hamhuis, but I think he will have a real slow start in the beginning of the season.

Ballard on the other hand, with no injuries will go into training camp healthy and ready to go, and I think he will compete for a top 4 dman position.

I wonder what kind of top 6 forward Gillis is looking for to play with Kesler. It would be nice to get a bigger guy with hands (don't grow on trees though).

murd0c
06-23-2011, 08:10 PM
I personally think a player like Brooks Laich would be perfect to play with Kesler

mb_
06-23-2011, 08:26 PM
Wouldn't mind Joel Ward tbh

spoon.ek9
06-23-2011, 08:33 PM
nhl draft is tmrw. who are the canucks projected to pick in the 1st round?

jeedee
06-23-2011, 08:49 PM
nhl draft is tmrw. who are the canucks projected to pick in the 1st round?

Either Oscar Klefbom, Connor Murphy, or Vladislav Namestnikov.

Source: Canucks Off-Season Plan (http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=369646)

MyNHLDraft (http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/) also projects us to pick Murphy with the 28th pick.

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 08:52 PM
So glad I'm not a Flyers fan right now

Tapioca
06-23-2011, 08:52 PM
I wonder what kind of top 6 forward Gillis is looking for to play with Kesler. It would be nice to get a bigger guy with hands (don't grow on trees though).

Out of left field, but apparently Erik Cole is UFA.

murd0c
06-23-2011, 09:02 PM
I'm not a fan of Erik Cole at all

DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 09:02 PM
Out of left field, but apparently Erik Cole is UFA.

Oh god please no Erik Cole.

I believe he's done as a productive player.

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Kesler can play the wing. He needs someone to feed him the puck, and B.Richards fits into that role PERFECTLY.
When has Kesler played wing?

spoon.ek9
06-23-2011, 09:08 PM
Either Oscar Klefbom, Connor Murphy, or Vladislav Namestnikov.

Source: Canucks Off-Season Plan (http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=369646)

MyNHLDraft (http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/) also projects us to pick Murphy with the 28th pick.

thanks. i lol'd at this:

Maxim Lapierre only contributed one point in 19 games after arriving in a trade from Anaheim, but he was effective (and highly annoying to opponents) in the postseason. With Malhotra limited, Lapierre's emergence was crucial to the Canucks' run to the Final.

jeedee
06-23-2011, 09:21 PM
When has Kesler played wing?

When he's on the 1st unit for the PP? :lol

I'm just saying. IF B.Richards was on our team, Kes COULD be bumped to the wing to have Richards feed him pucks.

Oh god please no Erik Cole.

I believe he's done as a productive player.

It doesn't hurt to have someone that has won the Cup and the playoff experience in the locker room. Cole's a leader that many players in the locker room can "look up to".

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2011, 09:21 PM
When has Kesler played wing?

RPM Line

spoon.ek9
06-23-2011, 09:25 PM
please don't remind us of pavol demitra.... :(

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 09:26 PM
When he's on the 1st unit for the PP? :lol

I'm just saying. IF B.Richards was on our team, Kes COULD be bumped to the wing to have Richards feed him pucks.



It doesn't hurt to have someone that has won the Cup and the playoff experience in the locker room. Cole's a leader that many players in the locker room can "look up to".
Obviously I meant besides the PP.

IMO if a guy wins the Selke by a landslide, you don't just stick him on the wing. We'll see I guess.

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2011, 09:44 PM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

d1
06-23-2011, 09:47 PM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

Hell no.

Ronin
06-23-2011, 09:49 PM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

What the fuck kind of trade offer is that!?

Phoenix should kill themselves if they don't take that deal and the Canucks should if they even think about offering that.

Doan is decent but he's 34. He peaked 4 years ago. He's on the decline. He's also making $4.55 and will be a UFA next year.

Schnoo is the best goalie in the league that isn't a starter and Ballard just didn't fit in here but he'd be a top 4 on another team. He's 29.

Ch28
06-23-2011, 09:50 PM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

The fuck are you smoking?!

Grandmaster TSE
06-23-2011, 09:55 PM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

really?

Ronin
06-23-2011, 09:58 PM
I would rather sign Erik Cole as a UFA than fucking trade Schneider for Shane Doan.

Shit, I'd rather sign Alex Tanguay or Ville Leino or even Jussi Jokinen (at least the Canucks won't suck at shootouts...) to play with Kesler.

Just Ballard and a mid-round pick for Shane Doan would be a good deal for the Canucks but Schneider should bag us at least a high first rounder or at least a good defensive prospect and a decent second liner.

I would've jizzed in my pants if the Canucks got Giroux for Schneider.

jeedee
06-23-2011, 10:04 PM
Fawk TSN, hire Ronin for Hockey2Nite as an analyst. 100% agree with you.

I actually WANT to keep Schneids right now. Unless he demands to be traded and wants to be a #1 goalie THAT's when we should trade him. I don't think he has an issue at all playing as backup. I expect he'll play 30-35 games next season.

The more he plays, the better the record, the better the trade value he has :thumbsup:

Not really racist!
06-23-2011, 10:07 PM
Rice is trolling guys. At least I hope he is..

Ronin
06-23-2011, 10:08 PM
Some Flyers fans suggest that JVR + Carter for Schneider + Ballard instead of signing Bryzgalov to a massive contract and having to deal two of their core players. Schneider not as young as most one-year goalies and even if he plays out of his mind next year, he won't demand $7m a year. Maybe $3m. Instead, they'll be paying Bryzgalov $10m next year, making a 31-year old goalie the highest paid player in the league. That just seems like a bad use of cap space.

That's one heck of a deal for the Canucks.

The Flyers probably could've done better. They got some high picks and a huge potential star in Brayden Schenn but that's potential when Richards and Carter were established stars in the NHL already...and still young.

Grandmaster TSE
06-23-2011, 10:13 PM
JVR would be an awesome pickup

Grandmaster TSE
06-23-2011, 10:14 PM
I would rather sign Erik Cole as a UFA than fucking trade Schneider for Shane Doan.

Shit, I'd rather sign Alex Tanguay or Ville Leino or even Jussi Jokinen (at least the Canucks won't suck at shootouts...) to play with Kesler.

Just Ballard and a mid-round pick for Shane Doan would be a good deal for the Canucks but Schneider should bag us at least a high first rounder or at least a good defensive prospect and a decent second liner.

Leino would be a great addition
but keep schneider

sonick
06-23-2011, 10:14 PM
I would be highly disappointed if Gillis didn't consider an offer for Schneids from Philly, I think he would've been a great fit with Philly's plans.

Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 10:17 PM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

the fuck...:failed:

RacingMetro92
06-23-2011, 10:17 PM
Those mad Philly fans need to listen to these words by Bryzgalov, he speaks the truth-"why you heff to be med?" The Flyers traded away the house for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns14hRqwY8

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2011, 10:26 PM
I guess im the only one that thinks that Ballards stock has plummeted when he basically became our #9 defenceman this playoff. Hamhuis, Bieksa, Ehrhoff, Edler, Salo, Rome, Alberts, and Tanev were ahead of this guy. He makes Top 3 D money and hes in the doghouse with AV. At this point in time i wouldnt trade Schnieder for a draft pick unless it was top 5. Why trade a guy who we put 6+ years into developing for a draft pick who we will have to put atleast another 3+ years into developing.

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 10:29 PM
Flyers were dead set on signing Bryz, all the way up to the owner. They weren't going to consider Schneider or any other goalie unless they couldn't come to terms with him (which they did a long time ago)

RacingMetro92
06-23-2011, 10:31 PM
I guess im the only one that thinks that Ballards stock has plummeted when he basically became our #9 defenceman this playoff. Hamhuis, Bieksa, Ehrhoff, Edler, Salo, Rome, Alberts, and Tanev were ahead of this guy. He makes Top 3 D money and hes in the doghouse with AV. At this point in time i wouldnt trade Schnieder for a draft pick unless it was top 5. Why trade a guy who we put 6+ years into developing for a draft pick who we will have to put atleast another 3+ years into developing.

Unless Ballard bounces back this year (if even given the chance by AV) it'll be hard to move him and that fat contract (which is almost on the same level of the Bieksa deal currently being worked on).

Schenieds needs to stay as insurance (as well as a solid trade chip), and if he finds some way to play even better than he did last year, his stock goes up.

Tim Budong
06-23-2011, 10:32 PM
I guess im the only one that thinks that Ballards stock has plummeted when he basically became our #9 defenceman this playoff. Hamhuis, Bieksa, Ehrhoff, Edler, Salo, Rome, Alberts, and Tanev were ahead of this guy. He makes Top 3 D money and hes in the doghouse with AV. At this point in time i wouldnt trade Schnieder for a draft pick unless it was top 5. Why trade a guy who we put 6+ years into developing for a draft pick who we will have to put atleast another 3+ years into developing.

there is no doubt Ballard's stock plummeted. but many teams would pay decent for this guy. consider this..if the cap allows it, why wouldnt the canucks keep the depth.

unless something mindblowing comes through the doors, i can't really see the canucks doing much with the current rosters in terms of trading for pieces.

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2011, 10:39 PM
I dont see AV giving Ballard a fair chance, and even if he did, 4+Million is way too much to pay a defencemen whose gonna play less than 15 minutes a game.

http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2010/11/1/1779550/goaltender-trade-value

Historically a Goaltender trade has barely gotten anything equal in value in return

DanHibiki
06-23-2011, 10:47 PM
The funny thing I noticed was during the regular season, I was like the only one complaining about Ballard's ice time. It wasn't til the end of the season/playoffs that everyone else finally started talking bout it lol.

Not even analysts were talking bout him until playoffs.

I was like ????? AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS!?!? For most of the regular season.

Glad to see I wasn't crazy.

jigga250
06-23-2011, 10:50 PM
The funny thing I noticed was during the regular season, I was like the only one complaining about Ballard's ice time. It wasn't til the end of the season/playoffs that everyone else finally started talking bout it lol.

Not even analysts were talking bout him until playoffs.

I was like ????? AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS!?!? For most of the regular season.

Glad to see I wasn't crazy.

There were a TON of people in this thread alone complaining about that.:speechless:

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2011, 11:19 PM
AV and Bowness both got fired for keeping an expensive 'star' in the dog house when they were in Ottawa. Of course, it turned out they were correct (the "star" was Alexandre Daigle) so maybe they're onto something with Ballard... just sayin :)

Ronin
06-23-2011, 11:30 PM
Ah, Alexandre Daigle...other than Patrick Stefan, he has to be the most hilarious #1 pick.

Ottawa basically tanked a whole season on purpose to get him.

winson604
06-23-2011, 11:31 PM
The funny thing I noticed was during the regular season, I was like the only one complaining about Ballard's ice time. It wasn't til the end of the season/playoffs that everyone else finally started talking bout it lol.

Not even analysts were talking bout him until playoffs.

I was like ????? AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS!?!? For most of the regular season.

Glad to see I wasn't crazy.

Actually analysts both on TV and on 1040 talked about it many times. It just wasn't the main topic that got talked to death because there were more important topics like the Canucks kicking ass.

Grandmaster TSE
06-23-2011, 11:56 PM
Ah, Alexandre Daigle...other than Patrick Stefan, he has to be the most hilarious #1 pick.

Ottawa basically tanked a whole season on purpose to get him.

only to tank many more seasons

GodZilla
06-24-2011, 12:02 AM
Schnieder + Ballard for Shane Doan

yay or nah?

Phoenix is gonna need a goalie probably since Bryzgalov is leaving plus they may not resign Jovo, but probably a trade Phoenix will never accept

This is like Cam Neely deal all over again but with a goaltender.

head shake x 10000

!YaoShi
06-24-2011, 12:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN9D76oZSdY

God I'm so proud. Brings a tear or two.

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 12:56 AM
^I don't think I'm ready to watch reflecting-back videos quite yet. :(

iwantaskyline
06-24-2011, 01:27 AM
Some Flyers fans suggest that JVR + Carter for Schneider + Ballard instead of signing Bryzgalov to a massive contract and having to deal two of their core players. Schneider not as young as most one-year goalies and even if he plays out of his mind next year, he won't demand $7m a year. Maybe $3m. Instead, they'll be paying Bryzgalov $10m next year, making a 31-year old goalie the highest paid player in the league. That just seems like a bad use of cap space.

That's one heck of a deal for the Canucks.

The Flyers probably could've done better. They got some high picks and a huge potential star in Brayden Schenn but that's potential when Richards and Carter were established stars in the NHL already...and still young.

Do you know who got paid $10 mill this year? Luongo. But thats not his cap hit and that isn't Bryzgalov's cap hit either. So it doesn't matter. (51/9 = 5.6 cap hit)

JVR + Carter for a backup goal (with lots of potential) and a expensive d-man who was benched in the Stanley Cup finals? Whoever suggested that is on crack. Crack.

Fact is both Richard's and Carter's production over the last two seasons have declined. Both had point totals in the 60's the last two seasons. Holmgren saw a trend. With the emergence of Giroux and JVR and addition of Schenn (who has a much higher ceiling then Richards) they look set for their top 6. Deepest D in the league as well. Now with Bryz who is a bonafide top 10 goalie in the league, the Flyers are fine.

mb_
06-24-2011, 01:41 AM
^Who would you rather pay 10mill? Luongo or Bryzgalov?

I honestly don't think Gillis will trade Schneider or Ballard, he'll probably wait till trade deadline unless he really needs to dump Ballard's contract before the season starts.

SkinnyPupp
06-24-2011, 01:46 AM
Ah, Alexandre Daigle...other than Patrick Stefan, he has to be the most hilarious #1 pick.

Ottawa basically tanked a whole season on purpose to get him.

Yup and the Nordiques tried to trade all their Lindros players to get him. Imagine that. The Sens could have won the cup in 95 instead of the Avs...
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spideyv2
06-24-2011, 02:20 AM
was Daigle projected as the next Gretzky or some shit?

SkinnyPupp
06-24-2011, 02:48 AM
Pretty much. He was a pure sniper in the minors, and he had star charisma and looks. Unfortunately he didn't really care about hockey, and just rode on his natural talent in an attempt to be a star. He cared more about being a star than a good hockey player. He attempted 2 comebacks but those failed. He ended up playing in Europe before retiring.
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AzNightmare
06-24-2011, 02:53 AM
was Daigle projected as the next Gretzky or some shit?

he was supposed to be really good.
he had two decent season with 51 pts... but other than that...

He didn't need to work for his money either.
He got offered 12.25mil for 5 years right off the bat,
before the rookie salary cap existed.

I think Patrik Stefan was probably a better pick...
but partially was because Stefan's career was much shorter, and he had less time to embarrass himself.
(although everyone remembers how he missed the empty net point blank)

:lol I just realized Daigle's first 4 seasons with Ottawa, he was -45, -22, -30, -33
His line must really suck, or maybe Ottawa was really bad back then. I can't remember. Those +/- stast are ridiculous.

7seven
06-24-2011, 06:14 AM
was Daigle projected as the next Gretzky or some shit?

Yup, everyone was certain he'd be the next Gretzky/Lemieux. Daigle just had so much natural talent with hockey, he put in so little effort and still managed 20+ goal seasons in the NHL.

I remember after he was done in the NHL he gave an interview where he admitted he didn't actually like playing hockey and just did it for the money. He used his NHL money to start a film production company and attempted a career in acting that didn't go so well. Daigle was more interested in dating Hollywood actresses and trying to be an actor than in playing hockey. What a waste of talent.


:lol I just realized Daigle's first 4 seasons with Ottawa, he was -45, -22, -30, -33
His line must really suck, or maybe Ottawa was really bad back then. I can't remember. Those +/- stast are ridiculous.

Yes Ottawa was that bad in the early - mid 90s, it was an absolute joke.

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 06:29 AM
Speaking of ex-NHLers, I heard somewhere that Anson Carter was putting together a group to buy the Atlanta Trashers before they moved to the Peg.

Anyone know what he has done with his career? Last I heard was that he founded a music label and has signed some really big artists and doing really well for himself?

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 06:50 AM
Speaking of ex-NHLers, I heard somewhere that Anson Carter was putting together a group to buy the Atlanta Trashers before they moved to the Peg.

Anyone know what he has done with his career? Last I heard was that he founded a music label and has signed some really big artists and doing really well for himself?

all black people have music labels :lol

Vansterdam
06-24-2011, 06:59 AM
like anson carter :troll:

lol dont think he signed anyone that known

murd0c
06-24-2011, 07:31 AM
I'm pretty excited about the draft tonight, Hopefully there are still some large trades today

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 08:01 AM
Winnipeg will announce the name of their team before they make their pick tonight.

I thought I was going to have hockey withdrawal, but yesterday was pretty exciting, and the anticipation for July 1st being around corner, I'm good for the next week.

SkinnyPupp
06-24-2011, 08:08 AM
I'm even considering getting up at 7am to watch live :eek:

krazynuck
06-24-2011, 08:14 AM
I'm even considering getting up at 7am to watch live :eek:

its a given that you have to do that....I consider today Day 9 A.D. and only watching anything related to hockey will help rebuild what was destroyed inside me

Expresso
06-24-2011, 08:14 AM
I'm even considering getting up at 7am to watch live :eek:

Don't, it's a waste of time. Just getting updates online/twitter is sufficient really.

There's no hype to this year's draft. Doesn't seem to be any big superstars this year.

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 08:23 AM
yeah there's no marquee players in this draft. it'll still be good though.

7seven
06-24-2011, 08:27 AM
Predators' new jerseys
http://www.icethetics.info/storage/blog11/0623-nsh-jerseysleaked.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=13088 75834424

Not really racist!
06-24-2011, 08:31 AM
^
me nolikthe back

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 08:32 AM
the old one was fine. the home jersey is way too bright. color pattern on the away jersey looks similar to the ducks one.

jigga250
06-24-2011, 08:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN9D76oZSdY

God I'm so proud. Brings a tear or two.

This makes me sad. So close.:alone:

Razor Ramon HG
06-24-2011, 08:36 AM
I just hope my buddy gets drafted - Luke Lockhart.

http://www.burnabynow.com/health/Bird+with+star+rise+kills+combines/4986638/story.html

http://whl.uploads.mrx.ca/seattle/images/en/rosterheadleague/2010/10/LOCKHARTLeague4920.jpg

SkinnyPupp
06-24-2011, 08:43 AM
Don't, it's a waste of time. Just getting updates online/twitter is sufficient really.

There's no hype to this year's draft. Doesn't seem to be any big superstars this year.
True but I also like to see new logos/jerseys get introduced. Like the Nashville.. I like the new logo, but I don't like the lines across the numbers (fucken guitar strings), or the little "Nashville" in the corner.

Here's the new logo, those jerseys may not be the final version. The logo is:

http://www.icethetics.info/storage/blog11/0622-nsh-newlogos.png

I also want to see what kind of crazy trades happen.. like Philly WTF?

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 08:53 AM
I'd be happy with Stastny or Wolski

Expresso
06-24-2011, 09:04 AM
I didn't mind the Pred's Alternate. Its too bad they barely used it during the season. Anything that doesn't have the mustard colour is :thumbsup: in my books.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/145293/preds3rdrevised.jpg

mb_
06-24-2011, 09:09 AM
Zach Yuen is eligible to be drafted this year right?
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Ch28
06-24-2011, 09:20 AM
DarrenDreger (http://twitter.com/#%21/DarrenDreger) Darren Dreger

Correction. Secret is out. Wpg Jets returns.

Ch28
06-24-2011, 09:22 AM
Zach Yuen is eligible to be drafted this year right?
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Yup!

TSN has him ranked as an "Honourable Mention"

http://tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=44975

minoru_tanaka
06-24-2011, 09:28 AM
he was supposed to be really good.
he had two decent season with 51 pts... but other than that...

He didn't need to work for his money either.
He got offered 12.25mil for 5 years right off the bat,
before the rookie salary cap existed.

I think Patrik Stefan was probably a better pick...
but partially was because Stefan's career was much shorter, and he had less time to embarrass himself.
(although everyone remembers how he missed the empty net point blank)

:lol I just realized Daigle's first 4 seasons with Ottawa, he was -45, -22, -30, -33
His line must really suck, or maybe Ottawa was really bad back then. I can't remember. Those +/- stast are ridiculous.

You guys remember when Daigle said "I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two"
Check out number 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_NHL_Entry_Draft

But yea Ottawa sucked hard. But I think that was only their second year. It was awesome back then cause if you could pick a game that Ottawa won, Sports Action was offering 8.00+ odds.

sonick
06-24-2011, 09:33 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_NHL_Entry_Draft


20 - Mike Wilson - Defence - Vancouver Canucks
21 - Saku Koivu - Centre - Montreal Canadiens

:crybaby:

krazynuck
06-24-2011, 09:56 AM
20 - Mike Wilson - Defence - Vancouver Canucks
21 - Saku Koivu - Centre - Montreal Canadiens

:crybaby:

so many x-canucks went that year

Bertuzzi, Morrison,Weekes, Fitzpatrick and McCabe to name a few

even demitra was 93

gars
06-24-2011, 10:00 AM
so many x-canucks went that year

Bertuzzi, Morrison,Weekes, Fitzpatrick and McCabe to name a few

even demitra was 93

VOTE FOR RORY!!!

I still can't believe they almost pulled it off....

spoon.ek9
06-24-2011, 10:08 AM
i'm sure jets fans will be happy to retain the previous name. it wasn't about how well the team did back then but rather returning what was stolen from them.

krazynuck
06-24-2011, 10:22 AM
VOTE FOR RORY!!!

I still can't believe they almost pulled it off....

ahahha i remember that....was the voting not alterted for him to loose at the end? I remember that he was winning and then at the last minute he lost

sonick
06-24-2011, 10:24 AM
Ya I am pretty sure he won but NHL likely tampered with the results to not look like fools.

highfive
06-24-2011, 10:31 AM
Apparently Smyth to Calgary is a done deal for late round pick(s). They are waiting for Flames owners to approve the deal. Talk about Calgary wanting ex-oilers players. Staois/Smyth/Glencrosse.

kristianhay
06-24-2011, 10:37 AM
Looks like they're pretty uncertain though.

GMillerTSN
Potential Ryan Smyth deal needs to be approved by Cgy ownership. Possibility the answer would be "no".

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 10:44 AM
Isn't getting Smyth a step back for Calgary if they give up picks?
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Expresso
06-24-2011, 10:46 AM
Looks like they're pretty uncertain though.

How bad can playing in LA possibly be. LA has a legit chance to challenge for the cup and he wants to move to EDM or CAL? Odd...


Isn't getting Smyth a step back for Calgary if they give up picks?
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Calgary wants to win now.

sonick
06-24-2011, 10:49 AM
Calgary wants to win now.

With an aging 35 year old 3rd liner making $4.5 million? I love you, Calgary management!

highfive
06-24-2011, 10:50 AM
How bad can playing in LA possibly be. LA has a legit chance to challenge for the cup and he wants to move to EDM or CAL? Odd...



Calgary wants to win now.

What Calgary really needs is a centreman. Not another winger. Smyth can still produce but they don't need someone like that to win.

spoon.ek9
06-24-2011, 10:53 AM
they still have a bunch of former leafs too, don't they?

Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 10:57 AM
Smyth will ruin that team in CGY...oh well

jigga250
06-24-2011, 10:58 AM
With an aging 35 year old 3rd liner making $4.5 million? I love you, Calgary management!

4.5? Try 6.25 (his cap hit). LOL @ the Lames, looks like another rough year ahead.

jigga250
06-24-2011, 10:59 AM
Smyth will ruin that team in CGY...oh well

Too late. Looks like Feaster is taking over right where Dutter left off. LOL those Bourque/Stajan/Hagman/Kotalik signings and contracts (with NTC's!) are real beauties.

7seven
06-24-2011, 11:01 AM
How bad can playing in LA possibly be. LA has a legit chance to challenge for the cup and he wants to move to EDM or CAL? Odd...



Calgary wants to win now.

It's LA that wants to unload Smyth, old, declining production carrying a $6.25mil cap hit, that is brutal. Smyth would prefer to go back to Edmonton where he has family and owns a business there.

With an aging 35 year old 3rd liner making $4.5 million? I love you, Calgary management!

His cap hit is a ridiculous $6.25 million tho hahaha. I want to see this happen for 2 reasons, sets Calgary back and annoys Oilers' fans. lol

sonick
06-24-2011, 11:08 AM
4.5? Try 6.25 (his cap hit). LOL @ the Lames, looks like another rough year ahead.

His cap hit is a ridiculous $6.25 million tho hahaha. I want to see this happen for 2 reasons, sets Calgary back and annoys Oilers' fans. lol

Thanks, I got the $4.5m figure from a tweet. $6.25m cap hit makes the schadenfreude of the demise of the Flames so much sweeter if they get Smyth.

AzNightmare
06-24-2011, 11:11 AM
You guys remember when Daigle said "I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two"
Check out number 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_NHL_Entry_Draft


:lol

Everyone remembers Daigle now.

LP700-4
06-24-2011, 11:18 AM
:lol

Everyone remembers Daigle now.

:fullofwin:

jigga250
06-24-2011, 11:41 AM
Rumor is Flames ownership has said no to the Smyth deal. How can that feel, as a GM, when the owners don't even have faith in your decisions, and feel they know better whats best for the team? Who's wearing the pants in this relationship!? lol

CRS
06-24-2011, 12:03 PM
Rumor is Flames ownership has said no to the Smyth deal. How can that feel, as a GM, when the owners don't even have faith in your decisions, and feel they know better whats best for the team? Who's wearing the pants in this relationship!? lol

The owners always wear the pants.

We are just lucky that Aquaman actually believes enough in Gillis that he lets him borrow it year round. Don't fool yourself to thinking that this happens everywhere. Gillis is a GREAT GM thus far but the moment he starts making crazy deals, you can be sure that Aquaman will take it right back.

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 12:18 PM
they still have a bunch of former leafs too, don't they?

Stajan and Hagman are still there from the trade with Mayers, and White for Phaneuf, Aulie, Sjostrom

Modin was there from a trade with the Thrashers for a 7th round pick

hotshot1
06-24-2011, 12:27 PM
I think it's pretty obvious that Calgary's not gonna challenge for the cup next season so if they get rid of some bad multi-year contracts for Smyth (his contract has 1 yr left), they can start rebuilding with a bunch of cap space after next year. So depending on who they trade, it might not be a bad idea.

Ch28
06-24-2011, 12:37 PM
@TSNBobMcKenzie (http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie): As per @DarrenDreger (http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger), Leafs acquire J M Liles from COL for 2nd rd pick.

Expresso
06-24-2011, 12:41 PM
The Rochester Americans are now the AHL affliate for the Buffalo Sabres, which leaves an opening for the Portland Pirates.
http://www.mlive.com/griffins/index.ssf/2011/06/rochester_americans_reunite_wi.html

This sounds like really good news, hopefully the Canucks will consider this as an option considering the proximity to Vancouver. I really have no idea how the Pirates are as an organization though. Currently, Florida and Vancouver do not have AHL affliates with Chicago and Portland leftover.

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 01:10 PM
Burke uses Boston's conditional 2nd round pick from the Kaberle trade to get Liles with $4.2 million in cap space for his remaining year. Guess that means Kaberle isn't returning

jeedee
06-24-2011, 01:12 PM
Chicago Wolves have been announced as AHL affiliates with the Canucks (via @TheFourthPeriod)
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DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 01:14 PM
Burke uses Boston's conditional 2nd round pick from the Kaberle trade to get Liles with $4.2 million in cap space for his remaining year. Guess that means Kaberle isn't returning

That was expected long ago. He's been trying to get rid of him for years + Kaberle and Ron Wilson not getting along.

murd0c
06-24-2011, 01:18 PM
Chicago Wolves have been announced as AHL affiliates with the Canucks (via @TheFourthPeriod)
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:failed:

jeedee
06-24-2011, 01:24 PM
:failed:

?

Is it a fail that they're our affiliates or the source?
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Expresso
06-24-2011, 01:30 PM
?

Is it a fail that they're our affiliates or the source?
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Maybe a bit of both haha. It doesn't seem to be confirmed anywhere reputable and according to 7seven Chicago sucks lol.

I wonder if they would still chose Chicago if they knew Portland was on the table.

murd0c
06-24-2011, 01:32 PM
Maybe a bit of both haha. It doesn't seem to be confirmed anywhere reputable and according to 7seven Chicago sucks lol.

I wonder if they would still chose Chicago if they knew Portland was on the table.

Yep a bit A and a bit B right now.

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 01:35 PM
I've never seen anyone so in love with the city of Edmonton more than Ryan Smyth.

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 01:40 PM
Predators' new jerseys
http://www.icethetics.info/storage/blog11/0623-nsh-jerseysleaked.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=13088 75834424

http://www.toy-tma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/nerf_Maverick.jpg

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/Vc/nerf-guns-8-470-0409.jpg

jeedee
06-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Maybe a bit of both haha. It doesn't seem to be confirmed anywhere reputable and according to 7seven Chicago sucks lol.

I wonder if they would still chose Chicago if they knew Portland was on the table.

I'd say TFP is a good source..they've confirmed many signings in the past before TSN or Sportsnet have even announced it.



So let's say IF the Wolves become our affiliates. Do all of our current drafted prospects go to the Jets or do they move to Chicago?

Looking at the Wolves roster there are quite a few Canucks/Giants alumini. And Darren Haydar is a fucking beast.
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Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 01:50 PM
That was expected long ago. He's been trying to get rid of him for years + Kaberle and Ron Wilson not getting along.
There was nothing substantiated and both Wilson and Kaberle denied that story. Kaberle is definitely not a "Burke type player" but he did consider him a key asset in rebuilding the Leafs into his team. Kaberle loved Toronto and wanted to resign to remain a Leaf. If there was any rift, he had the power to screw Burke/Wilson/the Leafs by refusing to waive his No Trade Clause. Instead he chose to waive his NTC and help the Leafs acquire a prospect (Colborne), a first round draft pick(2011), and a conditional 2nd round draft pick (2012 if Kaberle resigned in Boston or they made the finals). That was much more than the anti-Leafs crowd was saying we would get for him. Kaberle had nothing but good things to say about Toronto following the trade. I was glad to see him raise the cup after 11 seasons with the Leafs even if it had to be in a Bruins jersey.

Once Kaberle was traded, there was immediate talk of replacing the position. He didn't have a great season or playoffs with the exception of the finals so I figured he would be willing to ask less and take a "hometown discount" on top of it to go back to Toronto as the Leafs still needed after he left. I only gave it the smallest of chances but as a Leaf fan I still had hope. It will be interesting to see where he ends up now.

Expresso
06-24-2011, 02:09 PM
So let's say IF the Wolves become our affiliates. Do all of our current drafted prospects go to the Jets or do they move to Chicago?

Pretty sure, we have all rights to our prospects that have contracts in place. So they will go where ever the Canucks go.

I don't know too much about the AHL, but here was the post in the other thread.

Originally Posted by View Post
Canucks get royally fucked. True North owns the Moose and will continue to own and retain the Moose AHL team for the Manitoba/Winnipeg franchise, with the AHL team rumored to be moving to St. Johns. That would mean the Canucks would have no AHL affiliate agreement for now and every AHL team has already affiliate agreements with NHL teams except for the Chicago Wolves.

The Chicago Wolves would be a horrible affiliate to develop players as the owners there are interested more in icing a vetern, competitive team and turning a profit. The Wolves have gone through many different NHL team affiliations over the years with the management and owners quite often bumping heads with their NHL counterparts. The Wolves really have no interest in developing players properly for the NHL at all.

The Canucks really get screwed in loosing their agreement with Moose management guys like Chipman and Heisinger. It was Heisinger that found Burrows, Rypien, Bolduc and Mark Flood (who many are saying could be the next diamond in the rough) it was Heisinger that fought to keep and offer Bieska a pro contract when Bieska was a 5th round after thought. Chipman and Heisinger played key roles in developing Schneider, Burrows, Kesler, Hansen, Edler and Bieska, sometimes I think people overlook how important it is to have a proper development system for your prospects, not every player is a Ovechkin or Crosby, most need proper guidance to develop into the players they are today.

spoon.ek9
06-24-2011, 02:26 PM
it seems like a conflict of interests to have the chicago wolves as our AHL affiliate. there's the animosity between our two cities, the development issues as 7seven has pointed out and there's still the issue of distance when calling players up. i don't see how this is beneficial the the canucks at all... hopefully they find a better option.

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 02:27 PM
I'd say TFP is a good source..they've confirmed many signings in the past before TSN or Sportsnet have even announced it.



So let's say IF the Wolves become our affiliates. Do all of our current drafted prospects go to the Jets or do they move to Chicago?

Looking at the Wolves roster there are quite a few Canucks/Giants alumini. And Darren Haydar is a fucking beast.
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Come on now man..Why would we lose our drafted prospects just cause an AHL franchise relocates? There's a reason they sign a contract

7seven
06-24-2011, 02:28 PM
The Rochester Americans are now the AHL affliate for the Buffalo Sabres, which leaves an opening for the Portland Pirates.
http://www.mlive.com/griffins/index.ssf/2011/06/rochester_americans_reunite_wi.html

This sounds like really good news, hopefully the Canucks will consider this as an option considering the proximity to Vancouver. I really have no idea how the Pirates are as an organization though. Currently, Florida and Vancouver do not have AHL affliates with Chicago and Portland leftover.

Different Portland, the AHL Portland Pirates are located in Portland, Maine, by Quebec/New Brunswick area, right in the Bruins fan base, not Portland, Oregon.

7seven
06-24-2011, 02:34 PM
I don't know too much about the AHL, but here was the post in the other thread.

Pretty much, the owners of the Wolves run the team to be competitive and win Calder Cups because in Chicago, unlike other AHL cities, there is a lot of competition for fan's entertainment spending. They often butted heads with their NHL counter parts because part of icing a competitive team would be to give the majority of the ice time to career AHL vets instead of younger players/rookies from their NHL affiliate.

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 03:05 PM
trade brule for smith? =/

seakrait
06-24-2011, 03:06 PM
Here we go. 2011 Draft on TSN.
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Expresso
06-24-2011, 03:07 PM
Different Portland, the AHL Portland Pirates are located in Portland, Maine, by Quebec/New Brunswick area, right in the Bruins fan base, not Portland, Oregon.

hahah fail on my part! That is further than Chicago, damn!

Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 03:21 PM
Done deal
Ryan Smyth to EDM for Brule and 4thRound

from Dreger on twitter

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 03:24 PM
AWWWWWWWW YEAA REPPIN' BURNABY!

chun
06-24-2011, 03:26 PM
Done deal
Ryan Smyth to EDM for Brule and 4thRound

from Dreger on twitter

"Not confirmed at this point"

Steve Tambellini just said on TSN

k3mps
06-24-2011, 03:28 PM
awesome that my bud went #1, went to school with him for first 2 years of high school

Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 03:30 PM
AWWWWWWWW YEAA REPPIN' BURNABY!

he needs to add more than 10lbs lol

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Chick in the red is hot

Ronin
06-24-2011, 03:33 PM
I really thought the Oilers would surprise us and pick Larsson...but not surprised Colorado passed on him and went with Landeskog.

Holy balls he sounds like a Canadian...just a bit of an accent.

trancehead
06-24-2011, 03:37 PM
Landeskog has some cute sisters

1mcoupe
06-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Official: Smyth back to the Oilers for Gilbert Brule and a 4th
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Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 03:45 PM
The Devils must be happy as fuck
Laarson at 4 is a steal fr them

Durrann
06-24-2011, 03:48 PM
Chick in the red is hot

screen shot please?

PornMaster
06-24-2011, 03:50 PM
Official: Smyth back to the Oilers for Gilbert Brule and a 4th
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WORST TRADE EVER LOL

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 03:50 PM
screen shot please?

Only got one hand free...

Durrann
06-24-2011, 03:51 PM
^ when its free then haha

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 03:52 PM
^ when its free then haha

btw I got the patch sewn on.

Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 03:53 PM
with Laarson being the most legitimate NHL ready pick, the Devils could use him on D
The devils had Laarson on sight since early last season

Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 03:54 PM
Its Charles' Wang's fat kid
hahaha

DanHibiki
06-24-2011, 03:56 PM
aka the kid from Up

Tim Budong
06-24-2011, 03:59 PM
Ottawa drafts a smart kid..speaks a buncha language hahaha
but the sens get the big center

Coutourier is on the way down. Maybe the peg will take him?

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 04:01 PM
Jonathan Huberdeau looks like a serial killer rapist :lol

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 04:01 PM
Adam Larsson's comparison was Sami Salo..lol dope

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 04:07 PM
can't wait to hear the Winnipeg Jets name officially again

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 04:09 PM
cant believe murphy is ranked so low =/

chun
06-24-2011, 04:10 PM
"...on behalf of the Winnipeg Jets"

:fuckyea:

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 04:13 PM
nice jersey. he looks like the create-a-player guy in the EA games

hypediss
06-24-2011, 04:33 PM
Zzzzz where r the trades -.-
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Not really racist!
06-24-2011, 04:34 PM
snoooooooooooooooooooze fest

Gh0stRider
06-24-2011, 04:38 PM
Rumors came true. smyth back to oilers. didn't see that really happening.

hypediss
06-24-2011, 04:39 PM
He the only player in the planet that wants to play in Edmonton
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Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 04:40 PM
Colorado selects Dunk In Semen

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 04:41 PM
this years draft sucks

murd0c
06-24-2011, 04:51 PM
It's kinda funny that not many teams are congratulating the Bruins of winning the cup

Osaka
06-24-2011, 04:52 PM
any site streaming the draft?

spoon.ek9
06-24-2011, 04:52 PM
probably because of how they won it

haha13
06-24-2011, 04:53 PM
any site streaming the draft?

www.tsn.ca

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 05:01 PM
FUCK, i wanted us to pick Oleksiak..no way he would've fell to us though :(

edit- lol dallas' management must all be pretty tall too, cause oleksiak doesn't look that big standing next to them

AzNightmare
06-24-2011, 05:03 PM
probably because of how they won it

What do you mean by how they won it?

There were a ton of people calling Vancouver as the most hated team in NHL.
And if Canucks sneaked in 4 nailbiter games and got completely destroyed 3 games,
people would be saying Canucks got lucky and didn't really deserve the cup.

So I guess no one would have been congratulation either team.

saucywoman
06-24-2011, 05:08 PM
And what's wrong with how they won it?

There were a ton of people calling Vancouver as the most hated team in NHL.
And if Canucks had won 4 nail biters and lost 3 blown out games, people would be saying Canucks didn't really deserve the cup.

So I guess no one would have been congratulation either team.

Yes they were a very good team and yes thomas was a great goalie but those fucking refs had to have been paid off calling so many penalties on van and not so much on boston.. The nhl suspending rome for the late hit because of the severity of the injury yet doing shit all when one of our players gets so injured he's almost not able to fly back for game 7 with the rest of the team... We may not have won, but if we didn't have so many stupid calls against us it wouldve been a better chance
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spideyv2
06-24-2011, 05:11 PM
Yes they were a very good team and yes thomas was a great goalie but those fucking refs had to have been paid off calling so many penalties on van and not so much on boston.. The nhl suspending rome for the late hit because of the severity of the injury yet doing shit all when one of our players gets so injured he's almost not able to fly back for game 7 with the rest of the team... We may not have won, but if we didn't have so many stupid calls against us it wouldve been a better chance
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to be fair, our powerplay sucked ALL series.

murd0c
06-24-2011, 05:14 PM
Yes they were a very good team and yes thomas was a great goalie but those fucking refs had to have been paid off calling so many penalties on van and not so much on boston.. The nhl suspending rome for the late hit because of the severity of the injury yet doing shit all when one of our players gets so injured he's almost not able to fly back for game 7 with the rest of the team... We may not have won, but if we didn't have so many stupid calls against us it wouldve been a better chance
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the penalty ratio was pretty close. The big issue is the timing the penalty's were called

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 05:17 PM
I wouldn't go as far as say the referees were paid, but the Rome hit completely changed how the refs started calling games. They let a lot more go after game 3 which worked to the Bruins advantage. All season the Canucks made teams pay that tried playing the back alley style of game by scoring on the PP. If the PP was clicking we win the cup. With that being said, the shit they let go in front of the net on the PP was crazy. You could get away with murder.

murd0c
06-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Brouwer off to the caps fuck ya

van19
06-24-2011, 05:22 PM
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Capitals acquire Troy Brouwer from Chic for Caps first round pick, 26th overall.

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Troy Brouwer traded to the Caps, could that mean Laich isn't gonna be re-signed? :O

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 05:24 PM
If goalie John Gibson is still there I wonder if the Canucks take him.

Grandmaster TSE
06-24-2011, 05:27 PM
iono about another goalie

van19
06-24-2011, 05:32 PM
More trades :

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Blockbuster: SJS trades Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle and 1st pick (No. 28) to MIN for Brent Burns and a 2nd rd pick. #tsn
1 minute ago

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 05:33 PM
NICE TRADE

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 05:34 PM
lol looks like we will be playing against Setoguchi a lot more now

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 05:34 PM
MINNESOTA CASHED IN

RacingMetro92
06-24-2011, 05:34 PM
Wow, Minnesota picks up basically 3 first rounders for Burns...jeez the past few days have been crazier than the trade deadline!

trip
06-24-2011, 05:35 PM
the... hell...

murd0c
06-24-2011, 05:35 PM
wow thats a good trade for the wild

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 05:36 PM
Wow, Minnesota picks up basically 3 first rounders for Burns...jeez the past few days have been crazier than the trade deadline!

even if you dont look at the draft + player. setoguci for burns is legit.

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 05:36 PM
Nice to see trades happening with a cap league.

haha13
06-24-2011, 05:37 PM
"comparable to manny malholtra"

JKam
06-24-2011, 05:39 PM
haha i feel bad for setoguchi. signed hoping to stay with SJS and gets traded a few days later

kristianhay
06-24-2011, 05:39 PM
Minny definitely won that trade. 3 first rounders for Brent Burns. Setoguchi must be rattled though as he obviously wanted to play in SJS.

Slow draft though...

spideyv2
06-24-2011, 05:40 PM
FUCK. Oilers got Klefbom

Domed
06-24-2011, 05:42 PM
too bad free agent signing period isnt the same day as the draft that would be chaotic but fun as hell to watch

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 05:43 PM
SIGN FOR 3 YEARS. TRADE 3 DAYS LATER.

Ronin
06-24-2011, 05:44 PM
Good trade for Minny. Lots of return for a guy like Burns.

Grandmaster TSE
06-24-2011, 05:47 PM
they're using a lot of canucks for comparison

saw so far malholtra, samuelsson and raymond

GrapeDrink
06-24-2011, 05:49 PM
man I'm beyond choked right now, Seto was one of my favorite Shark players what the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk man, The GM claims he did not plan on trading him when he signed but I think that is still messed up because he basically gave a home town discount to stay. I'm not too choked about the prospect I mean from what I've read is hes at least a few years a way so fair enough but man Seto what the hell

KO7
06-24-2011, 05:52 PM
they're using a lot of canucks for comparison

saw so far malholtra, samuelsson and raymond

And Edler.

LUUUUUUUU
06-24-2011, 05:53 PM
Troy Brouwer to Capitals!

LUUUUUUUU
06-24-2011, 05:57 PM
21st pick - Stefan NOESON

comparable to maxim lapierre HAHAHAHA

murd0c
06-24-2011, 05:59 PM
sounds like they are :troll:ing us lol

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 06:00 PM
2 1st round picks for the Leafs at 22nd, 25th

Tyler Biggs - big surprise

murd0c
06-24-2011, 06:01 PM
3 1st round picks for the Leafs at 22nd, 25th, and 30th

they traded the 30th pick for the 22nd. They only have two first round picks.

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 06:04 PM
These guys getting drafted are going to get some sweet loving from their ladies tonight...

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2011, 06:06 PM
blob mckenzie rambles on too much

murd0c
06-24-2011, 06:07 PM
Biggs is a good pick up

Grandmaster TSE
06-24-2011, 06:08 PM
dreger said trade comin up between the sens and red wings

MR_BIGGS
06-24-2011, 06:09 PM
Pierre McGuire: "This guy has a huge package":confused:

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 06:10 PM
Red Wings draft well without 1st round picks

murd0c
06-24-2011, 06:11 PM
nice Ottawa with another pick. Gotta love trades. I'm so excited to see the Canucks pick but this is the kind of year when it get's to them they will trade it away.

trancehead
06-24-2011, 06:19 PM
SJS wins that trade. Brent Burns looks like a future norris nominee?

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2011, 06:21 PM
I love how Burke gets so many deals done with his former team in Anaheim.

DownGoesBrown Down Goes Brown
TSN says Tyler Biggs compares to Milan Lucic. So, training camp should take care of that whole Mike Komisarek problem.

lol

hotshot1
06-24-2011, 06:34 PM
FUUUUUUUUUU we should have offered something for Burns... and Setoguchi got shafted, he's probably really pissed