[CivicBlues]

So looks like I'll be stuck in Costa Mesa/Irvine for a week. Is there anything to do there?

I've been to Huntington Beach and Newport, should I just take an uber down there every evening?

[pastarocket]

So looks like I'll be stuck in Costa Mesa/Irvine for a week. Is there anything to do there?

I've been to Huntington Beach and Newport, should I just take an uber down there every evening?


Huntington Beach is Surf City. One of my American cousins lives there with her hubby and kids. She says that there are plenty of parks in the area to visit.

As for Newport, if you're interested in looking at marine life, there are whale watching tours.

[Hondaracer]

Used to have a friend who had a place in Laguna beach, it was nice if you’ve never been

[CivicBlues]

Yeah I've been to the 3 OC beaches (Huntington, Newport, Laguna was the nicest) way back in 2010 I'm sure a bit has changed.

Probably not much time to do much sightseeing maybe just walk around in the evening? Any good eats?

I guess nothing near the OC airport? Just blocks and blocks of office parks it seems

[mikemhg]

Whew that Weeknd concert last night was quite the show, they had the roof open at BC Place the whole night, it was hotter than fucking hell on the floor.

I felt old as hell.

I didn't realize he had so many young slooty dressed fans, we were fully on creeper mode FeelsGoodMan :lol

[Hondaracer]

I can’t remember specifics but every place we ate at was great

Looking at google maps I can’t remember the specific area but I’m assuming it was all on this promenade on forest?

Feel like there was this stereotypical like “Joes seafood shack” or somthing we went back to a couple times because it was so good b it now I can’t seem to find it lol

Good help I am lol

[bcrdukes]

So looks like I'll be stuck in Costa Mesa/Irvine for a week. Is there anything to do there?

I've been to Huntington Beach and Newport, should I just take an uber down there every evening?

Depending on when you are going, the OC Fair is starting in a day or two (OCFair.com) If time permits, maybe check out Newport Beach? Not the end of the world if you don't. Otherwise, not much to do in that area. You'll have to venture out.

Or maybe get yourself an American education at the University of California, Irvine. :derp:

[supafamous]

So looks like I'll be stuck in Costa Mesa/Irvine for a week. Is there anything to do there?

I've been to Huntington Beach and Newport, should I just take an uber down there every evening?

If you're with friends or family renting a Duffy boat (or similar) and cruising around is pretty nice (https://www.duffyboats.com/rent-newport-beach/).

[noclue]

Irvine is like koreatown of orange county, lots of good korean restaurants.
Best to have a car if you wanna go explore newport beach. The balboa peninsula is pretty neat and has a pier and also a ferry to go back to the mainland without driving all the way out. Fashion Island if you like high end mall.

[bcrdukes]

Venture out to Cafe Lu in Santa Ana. :troll:

[spoon.ek9]

lol was at the outlet last weekend on dollarton

mainland lady was decked out in arcteryx from head to toe in black in 30c heat

:lol

I was walking at an outdoor track recently and some bitch was wearing:

1. thick puffy jacket with hood up
2. face mask and sunglasses
3. thick sweatpants

It was 28C that day wtf lady

[CivicBlues]

Venture out to Cafe Lu in Santa Ana. :troll:

Du Ma! PogChamp

[yray]

Du Ma! PogChamp

captain happy bubble is still around BabyRage

[is350]

delete

[Great68]

The Triennial Northwest Deuce Days is in Victoria is this weekend. 1300+ cars from all over US and Canada, they basically shut down all the roads around the inner harbour. It's quite the spectacle.

https://www.northwestdeucedays.com/cdn/shop/files/2025NWDDbanner-primary-image-4000x2667.jpg?v=1722011034&width=3840

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[Tapioca]

My wife and I went to see the Weeknd the other day. Lots of GenZ had tickets and since I don't see a lot of GenZ in my day to day, here are a few observations:

- They seem afraid to talk to people and ask questions. I've never seen so many people be in the wrong seat in a stadium before. There were two young women in our seats and we told them that. They retorted that there were two other people in their seats. My wife told them that that's not our problem and told them to move. We probably saw like 5-6 groups of people in wrong seats in the 2-3 rows around us.
- Lots of women were dressed to draw attention, to put it mildly. I get it - it's a concert. But there were lots of them in groups and no groups of guys chatting them up in the concourse, in the lines, etc. Not a lot of young couples or at the very least, young male orbiters. Most of the couples we saw were boomer milllennials, like us.
- Lots of GenZ were eager to capture photos and videos, but I didn't really get the sense that they were actually having a good time, which was sad to see. I didn't really see a lot of joy in faces, if you know what I mean.

The concert was great though and I got to spend time with my wife.

[Hondaracer]

Work with a few gen z straight out of school, none of them can hold a conversation.

Has anyone ever applied PPF themselves? I’m looking at these sheets on Amazon my sunroof gets a shit load of gunk and dirt built up inside the track from sitting under trees and I’m debating just PPF’ing over the sunroof to keep it sealed

If I buy a sheet that will cover it is it easy enough to apply?

[whitev70r]

Applying PPF to sunroof is prob 100x easier than REMOVING racing stripes from a car. You got this. If not, visit youtube.

[EvoFire]

Work with a few gen z straight out of school, none of them can hold a conversation.

Has anyone ever applied PPF themselves? I’m looking at these sheets on Amazon my sunroof gets a shit load of gunk and dirt built up inside the track from sitting under trees and I’m debating just PPF’ing over the sunroof to keep it sealed

If I buy a sheet that will cover it is it easy enough to apply?

Yes, I gave up LOL. You need a heat gun and we had a hair dryer in an underground garage. Could not get it to work. We either stretched it too much or not enough or at the wrong places.

Color wrap is a lot easier as the vinyl is thinner and easier to stretch right.

[Hondaracer]

I’ve got a heat gun.. doesn’t need to be the best vinyl I just need it covered and not blow off while driving lol..

Guess I’ll watch some YouTube videos lots of rolls of varying sizes on amazon that come with the squeegee etc.

[Badhobz]

Ahhh yes gen z....

So i too have an interesting story about these young whipper snappers.

My buddy at work is a horn dog. He has like 3 ex wives and a basket of kids or something. But since we are all grossly overpaid, he can afford an interesting lifestyle.

Anyways, a couple of years ago they sent this gen z intern to him for a couple of months. GORGEOUS. blonde, big ass, big tits, dumb as a fucking post. He tried FOREVER.. LIKE FUCKING FOREVER to bone her. no luck. He showered her with gifts, basically gave her no work, and took her to all the industry events.. nope nada...

She finished her internship, he was super sad, and she went on to something else.
A few months ago, he teams me this pic and BOOM. there she was on Leolist. LIKE FUCKING thats her for sure. He used a burner phone, called her up and had her meet him at his house.

This hoe shows up, bitched him out and called him a stalker, AND THEN REFUSED to do him.

WHAT SORT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THIS!?!?!?!

He was FURIOUS !!!! im pretty sure he wanted to choke her out.

Moral of the story: Gen Z's are the worst. A whore with standards is right up there with Hitler.

[unit]

that's not surprising to me that escorts would not want to bang people they know from their normal life

[BIC_BAWS]

Uhhhh I think your coworker will probably get sued for workplace harassment tbh. It's not that she didn't know about his advances .. it's more likely she was ignoring it (and collecting evidence if she's smart and wants a payday)

My wife and I went to see the Weeknd the other day. Lots of GenZ had tickets and since I don't see a lot of GenZ in my day to day, here are a few observations:

- Lots of women were dressed to draw attention, to put it mildly. I get it - it's a concert. But there were lots of them in groups and no groups of guys chatting them up in the concourse, in the lines, etc. Not a lot of young couples or at the very least, young male orbiters.

Speaking of harassment, a lot of GenZ/younger Millennial men (myself included) won't approach someone in fear of being called a creep or worse - cancelled. Yes, you read that right. These whores will dress like one, without a bra and all, and if someone were to approach them they'll say smt about how they don't dress for the male gaze / just cause they wear smt doesn't mean they want attention ("asking for it" = rapey). Seeing how easy shit spreads like wildfire and how no one fact checks, it's way too damn risky. I know about 3-4 people that were falsely accused in a rape or harassment claim and got their lives ruined. Good people.

[Badhobz]

thats also probably why i see a lot of gen z guys being so timid when it comes to women. They are already lacking the social skills thanks to all this technology crap, now you add the risk of getting cancelled or called out by these whores and you might as well go fuck dudes.

[68style]

Speaking of harassment, a lot of GenZ/younger Millennial men (myself included) won't approach someone in fear of being called a creep or worse - cancelled. Yes, you read that right. These whores will dress like one, without a bra and all, and if someone were to approach them they'll say smt about how they don't dress for the male gaze / just cause they wear smt doesn't mean they want attention ("asking for it" = rapey). Seeing how easy shit spreads like wildfire and how no one fact checks, it's way too damn risky. I know about 3-4 people that were falsely accused in a rape or harassment claim and got their lives ruined. Good people.

I mean, honestly, the problem is with handling rejection at that point isn’t it?

Cuz they’re kinda doing you a favour, I’d be pleased as punch if I approached some girl in my younger years and she showed her crazy to me right off the bat so I could take a fuckin walk the other way before investing anything in her and THEN finding out she’s psych ward eligible.

I mean, it’s nothing personal to get rejected and it’s their problem if they can’t handle a simple mating interaction lol

[SSM_DC5]

Work with a few gen z straight out of school, none of them can hold a conversation.

Has anyone ever applied PPF themselves? I’m looking at these sheets on Amazon my sunroof gets a shit load of gunk and dirt built up inside the track from sitting under trees and I’m debating just PPF’ing over the sunroof to keep it sealed

If I buy a sheet that will cover it is it easy enough to apply?

So your going to get a rectangle sheet of PPF and throw it on the top of your car to cover the seal of your sunroof?
That sounds as ghetto as LVP in a staircase pattern! Or tile that has 1 design and all put in the dame direction!

If you're serious about just throwing a big rectangle sheet on top, then it should be pretty easy since it's flat.

[Hondaracer]

I have no clue how so much shit gets in the sunroof but it’s literally clogging the drains over a few months multiple times a year

I’ll wipe it clean and clean the entire track and drains and within 3-4 months of sitting outside it will be filled with shit again, I’m over it

I was considering just taping the seam which is even more ghetto lol

[68style]

Just duct tape Saran Wrap man

[roastpuff]

I mean, honestly, the problem is with handling rejection at that point isn’t it?

Cuz they’re kinda doing you a favour, I’d be pleased as punch if I approached some girl in my younger years and she showed her crazy to me right off the bat so I could take a fuckin walk the other way before investing anything in her and THEN finding out she’s psych ward eligible.

I mean, it’s nothing personal to get rejected and it’s their problem if they can’t handle a simple mating interaction lol

The problem is not the rejection, the problem is getting your FACE blasted all over social media as a creep/stalker/rapey.

Because it won't stop at just a verbal no, it'll be on X/FB/IG/Threads/TikTok/whatever other social media platforms these hoes use.

Damn I'm glad I didn't have to deal with this shit.

[Traum]

The single most important thing that I learned from this post -- Leolist!

BRB after I do some searches on this site!
Ahhh yes gen z....

So i too have an interesting story about these young whipper snappers.

My buddy at work is a horn dog. He has like 3 ex wives and a basket of kids or something. But since we are all grossly overpaid, he can afford an interesting lifestyle.

Anyways, a couple of years ago they sent this gen z intern to him for a couple of months. GORGEOUS. blonde, big ass, big tits, dumb as a fucking post. He tried FOREVER.. LIKE FUCKING FOREVER to bone her. no luck. He showered her with gifts, basically gave her no work, and took her to all the industry events.. nope nada...

She finished her internship, he was super sad, and she went on to something else.
A few months ago, he teams me this pic and BOOM. there she was on Leolist. LIKE FUCKING thats her for sure. He used a burner phone, called her up and had her meet him at his house.

This hoe shows up, bitched him out and called him a stalker, AND THEN REFUSED to do him.

WHAT SORT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THIS!?!?!?!

He was FURIOUS !!!! im pretty sure he wanted to choke her out.

Moral of the story: Gen Z's are the worst. A whore with standards is right up there with Hitler.

[68style]

The problem is not the rejection, the problem is getting your FACE blasted all over social media as a creep/stalker/rapey.

Because it won't stop at just a verbal no, it'll be on X/FB/IG/Threads/TikTok/whatever other social media platforms these hoes use.

Damn I'm glad I didn't have to deal with this shit.

I have a feeling there’s more to the stories with those guys… like maybe they kept pushing or read the “Don’t take no / Turn no into yes” books… if you don’t know who someone is or: they’re some rando and you also are not someone of major clout it’s pretty damn hard to really fuck with someone. It would die so fast.

[Eff-1]

I walk past a high school every day and when I think of Gen Z all I think of are baggy jeans and the boys all have haircuts that look like heads of broccoli.

[Badhobz]

I blame Timmothy chalet-main. He’s the progenitor of this gayness. That being said I do enjoy his acting and he’s super talented, capable of insane range of roles.

[mikemhg]

My wife and I went to see the Weeknd the other day. Lots of GenZ had tickets and since I don't see a lot of GenZ in my day to day, here are a few observations:

- They seem afraid to talk to people and ask questions. I've never seen so many people be in the wrong seat in a stadium before. There were two young women in our seats and we told them that. They retorted that there were two other people in their seats. My wife told them that that's not our problem and told them to move. We probably saw like 5-6 groups of people in wrong seats in the 2-3 rows around us.
- Lots of women were dressed to draw attention, to put it mildly. I get it - it's a concert. But there were lots of them in groups and no groups of guys chatting them up in the concourse, in the lines, etc. Not a lot of young couples or at the very least, young male orbiters. Most of the couples we saw were boomer milllennials, like us.
- Lots of GenZ were eager to capture photos and videos, but I didn't really get the sense that they were actually having a good time, which was sad to see. I didn't really see a lot of joy in faces, if you know what I mean.

The concert was great though and I got to spend time with my wife.


That's funny you made those observations, because that was ours as well.

GenZers almost seem autistic at times, really shy to ask questions or engage more so then prior generations.

I'm gonna sound boomer but I'm also surprised how sexualized kids are going out dressed by themselves nowadays, saw groups of 14-16 years olds wearing nothing at all, I didn't expect The Weeknd to have that kind of fan demographic.

The lack of hunting. In my party days at an event like that we'd be walking around getting numbers and trying to pick up chicks, I rarely see young guys doing that anymore, I don't see it at events or festivals, not even the beach anymore.

It's quite odd.

It was hot as fuck in the arena on the floor, we were dying at some portions of the concert, especially when leaving from down there.

[Hondaracer]

All gen Z too pussy to binge drink anymore, no liquid courage

[BIC_BAWS]

I have a feeling there’s more to the stories with those guys… like maybe they kept pushing or read the “Don’t take no / Turn no into yes” books… if you don’t know who someone is or: they’re some rando and you also are not someone of major clout it’s pretty damn hard to really fuck with someone. It would die so fast.

I know (knew of now) of some chick that put a dude on blast for hitting on her friends. Something about feminism blah blah blah. Dude did nothing wrong and there wasn't more to the story - in fact the dude shared all the receipts (screenshots/interactions) following the cancellation. And these fucking crazy ass women take one thing and just run with it, completely out of of context.

In another case, someone I know quite well had a fight with his gf, she got physical, he called the cops. She pressed charges on him. He got arrested and went to court. Actually, I know 2-3 people in this situation, because cops (and the public) generally takes the women's side of things automatically, even if she's clearly the aggressor.

[bcrdukes]

Damn...

[roastpuff]

I have a feeling there’s more to the stories with those guys… like maybe they kept pushing or read the “Don’t take no / Turn no into yes” books… if you don’t know who someone is or: they’re some rando and you also are not someone of major clout it’s pretty damn hard to really fuck with someone. It would die so fast.

Much like BIC, I know of some guys who got put on blast for basically daring to ask "Hey you're cute can I buy you a drink?"

The girls said no, dude backed off, next he knows he's getting blasted on FB for daring to approach them.

You want to know why in person dating is dead these days? That's why

[BIC_BAWS]

Women, nowadays (or maybe it's always been like that), act like children or boys. When they feel embarrassed (maybe her gfs are teasing her or the guy isn't attractive enough to approach her), they tend to lash out and they lash out in this way. Or they think that by using this experience to step on someone else, will make her more suitable or attractive to higher "level" partners - AKA doing it for the publicity

[Badhobz]

but the only upside to their dysfunctional psyche is that most of these gen z girls are sexually liberated. They all watch porn, they all wanna bone—even the asian girls.

I hear them all the time at the gym, yaking away about sex and shit. all the while im like monkaS (dont have a hard on.... dont have a hard on....)

[BIC_BAWS]

Yeah the irony to that shit is that they also parrot "men aint shit" "all men are trash" and "all men want is sex" lol

So now you have the problem of men actually respecting women who don't want to be respected (despite them saying that) and now these men are lesser because it's too risky to make a move.

Anyway, I went on date and I thought it went pretty well, but I think she just wanted business tips and tricks from me LOL. Considering the lack of a reply, following my post date text. Whatever, but I find it really ironic that they want something serious, but can't be serious enough themselves to just say hey not interested lmao.

[Badhobz]

well give her those tips and tricks while you bone her in the ass and pull her hair.

[bcrdukes]

How timely.

We had a guest speaker for our class lecture yesterday and Plenty of Fish had a "No Dicks" campaign. (https://one23west.ca/case-study/gallery-of-dick-pics) (Work safe.)

Having read what's been shared in the thread, perhaps now they may need a new strategy? :pokerface:

Fun fact: Guest speaker was Scot Keith, great grandson to the original Alexander Keith of beer fame.

[Badhobz]

wait a minute, this is about being "nice" !?!? There are plenty of nice dudes who never get jack shit attention from women. Being nice aint going to separate you from the herd.

Its what started all this incel shit to begin with. all these nice guys who never get squat.

[sonick]

How timely.

We had a guest speaker for our class lecture yesterday and Plenty of Fish had a "No Dicks" campaign. (https://one23west.ca/case-study/gallery-of-dick-pics) (Work safe.)

Having read what's been shared in the thread, perhaps now they may need a new strategy? :pokerface:

Fun fact: Guest speaker was Scot Keith, great grandson to the original Alexander Keith of beer fame.

I had lunch with Scot Keith once to pick his brain about some marketing industry stuff, didn't realize hew as part of the Alexander Keith fam.

[sonick]

well give her those tips and tricks while you bone her in the ass and pull her hair.

lol girl letting Bic bone for advice, meanwhile Bic is behind her on RS asking for advice in his Adventure thread.

[bcrdukes]

wait a minute, this is about being "nice" !?!? There are plenty of nice dudes who never get jack shit attention from women. Being nice aint going to separate you from the herd.

Its what started all this incel shit to begin with. all these nice guys who never get squat.

Clearly, roastpuff and BIC_BAWS' friends are too nice. :failed:

[Jason00S2000]

Speaking of harassment, a lot of GenZ/younger Millennial men (myself included) won't approach someone in fear of being called a creep or worse - cancelled.

Yes well, it was obvious that dating completely switched from the 90's and 00's to the explosion of apps and the smart phone around 2010...

6 months of Tinder being released and women's brains had been fried from so much attention and a non-stop supply of dick.

Women themselves started noticing that everyone had suddenly become these huge secret sluts. In one friend group of 9 women, I banged 8 of them in a matter of like a couple weeks hanging out with one right after another, and then my friend banged like 4 of them. Really hot Kits girls and their friends... mid 20's when I was in my 30's. Not dates... just like, meet up at the beach, or in a friend group go to a restaurant, art show, whatever... and then be flirty... and if she comes back to your house later, she's probably more interested in getting laid than you are!

Things like the apps... they killed serendipity but also broke down the walls of what was considered a "date", if you had people hanging out at your house, for example, and you were flirting with a woman in your friend group, it's not a date, she was just tagging along with other friends, but how many times did the girl I just meet stay with me after her friends left? Even one of my old friends who was still super hot with big tits, she was abusing online dating so much by getting taken out for dinner every night of the week with ZERO INTENTION of dating anyone... she just loved the free expensive food! Then someone started recognizing her at places like Black & Blue and all these other places she had guys take her. She was well-fed, probably had like 5k in dinners bought for her every month.

And then the situationship was born...

[BIC_BAWS]

Yes well, it was obvious that dating completely switched from the 90's and 00's to the explosion of apps and the smart phone around 2010...

6 months of Tinder being released and women's brains had been fried from so much attention and a non-stop supply of dick.

Women themselves started noticing that everyone had suddenly become these huge secret sluts. In one friend group of 9 women, I banged 8 of them in a matter of like a couple weeks hanging out with one right after another, and then my friend banged like 4 of them. Really hot Kits girls and their friends... mid 20's when I was in my 30's. Not dates... just like, meet up at the beach, or in a friend group go to a restaurant, art show, whatever... and then be flirty... and if she comes back to your house later, she's probably more interested in getting laid than you are!

Things like the apps... they killed serendipity but also broke down the walls of what was considered a "date", if you had people hanging out at your house, for example, and you were flirting with a woman in your friend group, it's not a date, she was just tagging along with other friends, but how many times did the girl I just meet stay with me after her friends left? Even one of my old friends who was still super hot with big tits, she was abusing online dating so much by getting taken out for dinner every night of the week with ZERO INTENTION of dating anyone... she just loved the free expensive food! Then someone started recognizing her at places like Black & Blue and all these other places she had guys take her. She was well-fed, probably had like 5k in dinners bought for her every month.

And then the situationship was born...

Very interestingly, I just listened to a podcast about the effect of dating apps on our society (https://open.spotify.com/episode/3nFIx6VYyz48LUArmiiE8m?si=c6e24604d56b451a) by Scott Galloway

Some tidbits here:

Third places don't exist anymore. Sense of community is gone. So the "third" place is now dating apps - 50% online.

Technology + Mating, in terms of dating apps has a created a winner take all or winner take most dynamic. Mating inequality is greater than income inequality in Venezuela (50 men, 50 women, 46 women will take interest in 4 men, leaving 46 men trying to get the attention of just 4 women). The top 10% of attractiveness online get 90% of the interest. If your Tinder profile is went to Stanford, just started a startup, your Rolex is "accidentally" visible in the profile pic and your geolocated in Manhattan or Beverley Hills, you're going to get a massive amount of attention. The bottom half of people are not able to express anything other than wealth, which they may not have, are totally shut out of the market.

Its what started all this incel shit to begin with. all these nice guys who never get squat.

And here's where it gets a little spicy, apparently the knock on effect of this is that society is producing too many dangerous people in the world - young, broken, alone men. (aka school shooter types)

We are producing an enormous cohort of economically and emotionally nonviable men. There's a whole generation of young men that have no motivation and no guardrails. They get their dopamine addiction hit from trading. They don't have the mojo to get out there to meet women as much, cause they're watching so much porn. They get this illusion that if they have some sort of worth or affirmation when they say angry things on social media that they get rewarded for. They blame other people, specifically women, and they become more prone to misogynistic content. Start believing in conspiracy theories and less likely to believe in climate change and start becoming really shitty citizens.

The scary part is that we'll just ignore the weirdo and put them into the corner. But apparently the problem is that governments pander to these people for votes, so you have unproductive people have a disproportionate voice in politics (aka what Trump did and what PP attempted to do)

[CivicBlues]

We're basically headed toward a fundamentalist Muslim society.

Sheik Chad with his tech bro wealth is going to have 4 wives and a harem. While the rest of the women-less incels - ya'll strap on a bomb and die for MAGA!!

[Jason00S2000]

less likely to believe in climate change

Is this parody? I can't tell. :awwyeah:

[Traum]

I'm gonna sound boomer but I'm also surprised how sexualized kids are going out dressed by themselves nowadays, saw groups of 14-16 years olds wearing nothing at all, I didn't expect The Weeknd to have that kind of fan demographic.

True this. As a dad, there is no freaking way I'm gonna let my daughter dress like that.

(On the flip side, if I was still a teenage boy, I'd be all over this.)

[68style]

Much like BIC, I know of some guys who got put on blast for basically daring to ask "Hey you're cute can I buy you a drink?"

The girls said no, dude backed off, next he knows he's getting blasted on FB for daring to approach them.

You want to know why in person dating is dead these days? That's why

I’m not trying to discredit anyone, but how do you get put on blast on Facebook (and know about it) from someone you literally just met, they don’t know your name and you just asked if you could buy them a drink?

It’s impossible. That’s why I feel like there’s always more to the story. Otherwise these chicks need to start solving cold cases.

[Hakkaboy]

I’m not trying to discredit anyone, but how do you get put on blast on Facebook (and know about it) from someone you literally just met, they don’t know your name and you just asked if you could buy them a drink?

It’s impossible. That’s why I feel like there’s always more to the story. Otherwise these chicks need to start solving cold cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzh727t944k

[Gerbs]

Anyway, I went on date and I thought it went pretty well, but I think she just wanted business tips and tricks from me LOL. Considering the lack of a reply, following my post date text. Whatever, but I find it really ironic that they want something serious, but can't be serious enough themselves to just say hey not interested lmao.

If they're interested, you will know. They'll wanna hang out or sleep with you

[RevYouUp]

Guys just have it hard, if you’re ugly you’ll be labelled a creep, if you’re attractive you’re labelled as mysterious and shit.

Girls get it easy, look at that red lady dude that dressed like an obvious cross dresser and got 1700+ desperate dudes to bang them all on camera lol.

[spoon.ek9]

we could start a whole other thread if we really wanna discuss the state of the dating world today. i only got out of it a year ago so it's all still very fresh in my mind as to how fucked up things are.

[Gumby]

True this. As a dad, there is no freaking way I'm gonna let my daughter dress like that.

(On the flip side, if I was still a teenage boy, I'd be all over this.)
I have a few nieces and just the thought of parenting a girl gives me nightmares! I have two sons and I just tell them don't get the girl pregnant...

[supafamous]

True this. As a dad, there is no freaking way I'm gonna let my daughter dress like that.

(On the flip side, if I was still a teenage boy, I'd be all over this.)

Related context: At my last visit with the paediatrician we asked when puberty starts and the doc says as early as 9 that you could see breast development which was kinda shocking to hear (periods usually follow 2.5y after breast development starts). Puberty has consistently gotten earlier and earlier over the decades due to better nutrition and, presumably, more chemicals in our water, air and food.

So the physical maturity of a 15 year old is quite different than it was 30 years ago (or 60 years ago), add to that our more liberal values now and it's no surprise that kids are dressing more provocatively now - what was our dress code for a college kid is now the dress code for a 15 year old.

[Hondaracer]

My wife’s cousin has a daughter who is pretty reserved I think she’s like 13-14? She’s the typical kid you envision from when we grew up. They tried to limit her phone use, she still dresses fairly conservative etc. maybe a bit over the top with makeup following social media trends but I wouldn’t say she is physically mature

They had a get together last summer and their other friend brought over their daughter the same age. This girl has like double D’s hanging out of a tiny top, biking shorts with a huge ass bulging out blown out makeup and hair

Even the wife’s cousin was like embarrassed to have this girl around at their place :Lol a stark contrast

[Tapioca]

It's sad to hear some of these anecdotes about interactions between people.

It's a better investment for young men to buy a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and read it a few times than to spend money on a sleeve tattoo, TRT, and hair transplants.

[bcrdukes]

Or maybe they can come to a Stock & Noob Meet and realize how not to become us. :troll:

[donk.]

For those of you looking to get off your couch this summer:

Formula drift, aug 8-9 seattle coming up

Anyone who hasnt seen it in person, worth going once, blow open your ear drums, inhale some fresh 285/35/19, and regret getting food at the arena

This reminds me, i need to start a "burnout" fragrance, god i love the smell of burnouts

[donk.]

It's sad to hear some of these anecdotes about interactions between people.

It's a better investment for young men to buy a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and read it a few times than to spend money on a sleeve tattoo, TRT, and hair transplants.

young and investment do not apply to 90% of people, who are you kidding

[bcrdukes]

For those of you looking to get off your couch this summer:

Formula drift, aug 8-9 seattle coming up

Anyone who hasnt seen it in person, worth going once, blow open your ear drums, inhale some fresh 285/35/19, and regret getting food at the arena

This reminds me, i need to start a "burnout" fragrance, god i love the smell of burnouts

You forgot "get a speeding ticket" :pokerface:

[CivicBlues]

It's sad to hear some of these anecdotes about interactions between people.

It's a better investment for young men to buy a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and read it a few times than to spend money on a sleeve tattoo, TRT, and hair transplants.

lol this generation can barely read and has the attention span of an average tiktok clip you expect them to what to read some 80 year old self-help book?

[donk.]

Ahhh yes gen z....

So i too have an interesting story about these young whipper snappers.

My buddy at work is a horn dog. He has like 3 ex wives and a basket of kids or something. But since we are all grossly overpaid, he can afford an interesting lifestyle.

Anyways, a couple of years ago they sent this gen z intern to him for a couple of months. GORGEOUS. blonde, big ass, big tits, dumb as a fucking post. He tried FOREVER.. LIKE FUCKING FOREVER to bone her. no luck. He showered her with gifts, basically gave her no work, and took her to all the industry events.. nope nada...

She finished her internship, he was super sad, and she went on to something else.
A few months ago, he teams me this pic and BOOM. there she was on Leolist. LIKE FUCKING thats her for sure. He used a burner phone, called her up and had her meet him at his house.

This hoe shows up, bitched him out and called him a stalker, AND THEN REFUSED to do him.

WHAT SORT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THIS!?!?!?!

He was FURIOUS !!!! im pretty sure he wanted to choke her out.

Moral of the story: Gen Z's are the worst. A whore with standards is right up there with Hitler.



This sounds like a good prologue to a porno

[donk.]

You forgot "get a speeding ticket" :pokerface:

Your mixing up shitbox meet + 19 year olds with strollers

[Traum]

Despite the earlier and earlier physical maturity, I'd hardly think that people's mental maturity has moved up all that much. Supposedly, brain development doesn't fully complete until about ~25 anyway.

So the mismatch between physical and mental state gets even bigger, and I can't say that is a good thing at all.

Anecdotally, I'd also say that some of the older kids at elementary school seem to be gr 10 / gr 11 sized, even though their facial features still look gr 6 or 7.
Related context: At my last visit with the paediatrician we asked when puberty starts and the doc says as early as 9 that you could see breast development which was kinda shocking to hear (periods usually follow 2.5y after breast development starts). Puberty has consistently gotten earlier and earlier over the decades due to better nutrition and, presumably, more chemicals in our water, air and food.

So the physical maturity of a 15 year old is quite different than it was 30 years ago (or 60 years ago), add to that our more liberal values now and it's no surprise that kids are dressing more provocatively now - what was our dress code for a college kid is now the dress code for a 15 year old.

[Badhobz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=assZ9bcucmQ

[BIC_BAWS]

If they're interested, you will know. They'll wanna hang out or sleep with you

Too bad I'm dumb and I'm not interested in the girls that want to hang out with me hahahhaha

(which in general is the other side of the problem)

For those of you looking to get off your couch this summer:

Formula drift, aug 8-9 seattle coming up

Anyone who hasnt seen it in person, worth going once, blow open your ear drums, inhale some fresh 285/35/19, and regret getting food at the arena

This reminds me, i need to start a "burnout" fragrance, god i love the smell of burnouts

Pro Tip: Bring earplugs lol. It is LOUD. A couple of cool Americans gave me a tip one year - go get paper towel, wet it, and shove it in your ear. It helps.

I'll pass on this torture though. I'll listen to people sing bad karaoke over burnouts instead

Or maybe they can come to a Stock & Noob Meet and realize how not to become us. :troll:

So you're saying my problem is that I hang out with you old geezers (love you guys)



On the note of the physical maturity / mental maturity thing, I've been going on a few dates recently, and I personally can't date anyone under 24. On a physical attribute, people in their early 20s still look like HS kids to me, whereas people in their early 30s look like the new 20s (God, women in their early 30s are so baadd lmfao).

On the note of mental maturity, there's a clear lack of maturity between pre-quarter life crisis and post-quarter life crisis. AND before you geezers say something about that, it's a well documented thing. On a podcast I listened to this morning, the mid-life crisis happens when your children leave home and are grown up, leaving individuals who spent the last 20 years (or more) nurturing their kids questioning what to do with their life. Contrary to that, the quarter life crisis happened because of societal expectations. We grew up in a time where our parents would have been our age now and having kids, having their shit together (you'd think), and so now when we reach the same age our parents had us, you get questions of I need to do ____ by ____ age.

Someone I met recently started a community event to talk about the quarter life crisis and I think it's pretty cool to shed some light on what most people try pretty hard to shelter - the insecurities, vulnerabilities, etc. Similarly to what you guys have done for me - creating a space where I can process these thoughts. It's awesome to see people who see a need in the world and a desire to help.

[bcrdukes]

Or maybe they can come to a Stock & Noob Meet and realize how not to become us. :troll:

Oh, hello.

Maybe some of them will show up. (https://www.revscene.net/forums/718035-stock-noob-x-geriatric-motoring-club-meet-september-25-2025-a.html) :alone:

[spoon.ek9]

Quarter life crisis is for sure a thing. I'd say I had mine when I was 25 and really started to worry about how tf I was going to afford an apartment on my own with no help whatsoever financially. My friends/coworkers were in the same boat as we began our careers and thoughts of marriage/kids/property etc were creeping in. It's a stressful thing and especially so if you feel like you have no guidance or direction in your life. But then again, some of us at that age (and even until now) have no such thoughts or worries. To me, this is where we separated ourselves from the friends/acquaintances that we think of as "left behind" when we see them now compared to where we think they ought to be by now. Recognizing the issues and finding solutions and making sacrifices is part of growing up. Some of us just never did.

[bcrdukes]

So you're saying my problem is that I hang out with you old geezers (love you guys)

All we do is shit on you and complain about how crappy Porsches are. How is that even constructive? :lol

Look at Gerbs. He's hanging out with some 14 year old boy eating watermelon on the sidewalk driving a GT4? :inoutugh:

[Jason00S2000]

Quarter life crisis is for sure a thing.

FOMO is the #1 thing that keeps western civilization going.

I don't know Chinese culture, but I bet FOMO is just as strong in Chinese culture.

Everyone is trying to fit in and do the right thing so hard, but a remainer of people will always be fuck ups and misfits, and that's what the fentanyl / war / vaccine population control scheme fits in to keep the system functioning.

[Badhobz]

DIC_BAWS

i think the problem is you think there is a problem.

Bro when i was your age, i didnt think about anything... zip. zilch. nada... thats why i fought that guy in the KFC parking lot. i didnt give a shit

i was pounding gurpreet over a parking spot and youre on here talking about how to navigate life. Thats wayyy too deep. You're over analyzing everything.

I think you guys who are having quarter-life crises are because you never had a chance to be a kid. you took on the mantle of adulthood way too early. No 20-year-old should be strapped with a mortgage.

Now you add in all this technology, social problems, bad economy, horrible role models, and you surround yourself with rich ass faggoty geezers who spend all day trolling an internet forum and of course youre gonna be depressed as shit. Id jump off a bridge a few times if i had to deal with half the shit you kids have to deal with nowadays.

[BIC_BAWS]

Life is great homie, imagine getting to see cool ass caves like this with just a 5 min walk (and 5 hour drive)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250718/9460b34ae4de0a566d66bbfc319e9a69.jpg

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

[westopher]

One piece I'll tell you to look forward to Dic_baws. Shit changes big time when you pass through that crisis era. If all goes as planned, you really stop giving a fuck about trying to please everyone.
When I hit like 28 it all changed. I didn't need to be friends with everyone. I'm not saying I didn't want to be nice to people, but the faking it went out the window. I'm a social guy, so I always wanted to be surrounded by people no matter what, but with the decrease in free time I realized it's way better to be surrounded by your favourite people sometimes than just be surrounded by people all the time. I don't think most people know who the fuck they are in their 20s. It's for figuring it out, then in your 30s you become that person. Some people never figure it out, but I think lots of that comes from people that stuck themselves into something before they figured it out.

[BIC_BAWS]

Appreciate it, I'm chilling tho. The topic came up again when someone mentioned how they were surprised by a group of hoes but no one hitting on them -> feminism/cancel culture -> online dating -> incel culture / quarter life crisis

[red kryptonite]

just got caught up on the last 4 pages...
yes gen z sucks, lgs are dressing too provocatively, and DIC_BAWS is really sticking lol

[PeanutButter]

Did you guys see the couple at the cold play concert? This is so gold. The girl next to them knows all the tea... lol

CEO of a company was caught with the HR manager, both are married. Not to each other.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aCHfMT0Btk0

[RevYouUp]

Risked it all for some old hag

Edit: nvm

[Gumby]

Lol even Chris Martin called it, "either they're having an affair, or they're just very shy".

The CEO's wife just hit the jackpot!

[6793026]

Lol even Chris Martin called it, "either they're having an affair, or they're just very shy".

The CEO's wife just hit the jackpot!

https://i.ibb.co/5XK8kbj3/1.jpg

[bcrdukes]

This has been blowing up all over my LinkedIn.

[underscore]

just got caught up on the last 4 pages...
yes gen z sucks, lgs are dressing too provocatively, and DIC_BAWS is really sticking lol

Same here, apparently I missed the out of touch old man and red pill shit convention lol.

[supafamous]

Did you guys see the couple at the cold play concert? This is so gold. The girl next to them knows all the tea... lol

CEO of a company was caught with the HR manager, both are married. Not to each other.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aCHfMT0Btk0

Can't believe they were caught going to a Coldplay concert.

[whitev70r]

CEO of a $50M company that isn't the smartest ... like at such a public event ??!! Even if the Kiss Cam didn't catch you, how about being seen by someone that possibly knows you at the venue? Proverbial, 'Go find a hotel room'.

[CivicBlues]

This has been blowing up all over my LinkedIn.

What did this incident teach you about B2B sales?

[Jason00S2000]

Same here, apparently I missed the out of touch old man and red pill shit convention lol.

People who try and sell guys red pill advice are soooooooo cringe.

Truth is, shit works.

Remember, every woman gets flirted with and hit on many times a day, every single day. 99% of guys will blend into the probabiliy wave form of men she deals with constantly and you'll be forgotten within seconds.

Aura farm. Self-generate your own special sauce of being a man. When you react different to her, you'll be the first guy out of the last 100 to surprise her. Chicks who are HOT are used to being drooled over by desperate simps constantly... you need to make them feel like they are an option to you and not put them on a pedestal.
Even if you're broke as fuck you can get women with this method. In 2025, 99% of guys are afraid of saying the wrong thing... literally the "wrong thing" is what is going to get her attracted to you.

To distill this down to one sentence, you want to be aloof and mysterious, not down-to-earth and predictable.

[Jason00S2000]

Just imagine how shitty it would be to be a bird and have to do some humiliating dance just to get your avian dick wet:

https://i.ibb.co/JR2PwV1Y/bird-bird-dance.gif

[Badhobz]

hes like

NAH bitch, WHATCHU LOOKING AT!?!?!

LOOK AT ME INSTEAD!

aint jack shit over there.

*p.s. i do this dance every night for my wife*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EtlV-PbOzA

Youtube suggested this, and because he has a british accent it seems more informative, but i think in reality this channel is like some sort of an incel help network.

[Jason00S2000]

1920s–1940s: "Courtship Era"
↓
- Focus on marriage
- Male-led pursuit
- Dating supervised or public
- Chastity prized
↓

1950s: "Golden Age of Traditional Dating"
↓
- Going steady, high school romance
- Gender roles clearly defined
- Marriage young and common
- Sex = post-marriage
↓

1960s–1970s: "Free Love + Sexual Liberation"
↓
- Rise of birth control
- Rebellion against norms
- Communes, hippie culture
- Sex = expression, not duty
↓

1980s: "Materialism & Image-Conscious Romance"
↓
- Yuppie culture, dating = status
- Singles bars, personal ads
- Romance = performance
↓

1990s: "Relationship Escalator + Rom-Com Brain"
↓
- Dating = path to marriage
- But cohabitation rises
- Divorce normalized
- Expectations high (soulmate ideal)
↓

2000s: "Online Dating Begins"
↓
- Match.com, Plenty of Fish
- Profiles = curated identity
- Rise of choice, decline in patience
↓

2010s: "Swipe Culture + Situationships"
↓
- Tinder, Bumble, etc.
- Hookups over commitment
- Ghosting normalized
- Dating fatigue grows
↓

2020s: "Algorithmic Intimacy & Hyper-Self-Awareness"
↓
- Therapy language dominates ("attachment style", "boundaries")
- Poly, open, ace identities grow
- Everyone knows the red flags, still waves them
- High access to sex, low ability to bond
↓

2030s: "Post–City of Singles"
↓
- Shared values and purpose > vibes and chemistry
- Partnership built side by side, not across a table
- Sex postponed until structure, clarity, and roles are established
- "Dates" happen only after mutual commitment
- Marriage is symbolic or private-no legal interference
- Separate financial sovereignty, but shared assets and missions
- Bonding through work, trust, time... not dopamine and drama
- Higher synchronicity

[mikemhg]

I’m not trying to discredit anyone, but how do you get put on blast on Facebook (and know about it) from someone you literally just met, they don’t know your name and you just asked if you could buy them a drink?

It’s impossible. That’s why I feel like there’s always more to the story. Otherwise these chicks need to start solving cold cases.

There are groups on FB in every city, the Vancouver one is quite active called "Are we dating the same guy?".

Women will post guys on that group even if they haven't even met in person, just a Tinder match, or whatever.

Imagine being put on blast in a FB group with 20K+ members when you haven't even gone on a date together yet, I've had numerous people I know posted on that page (some deservedly, some not).

EDIT: Group now has 60K+ members https://www.facebook.com/groups/643094970606626/ :lol

[BIC_BAWS]

There are groups on FB in every city, the Vancouver one is quite active called "Are we dating the same guy?".

Women will post guys on that group even if they haven't even met in person, just a Tinder match, or whatever.

Imagine being put on blast in a FB group with 20K+ members when you haven't even gone on a date together yet, I've had numerous people I know posted on that page (some deservedly, some not).

LOL dude have you seen the men's version of this - "Are we dating the same girl? (http://facebook.com/groups/895371878358379)". Chicks will make fake FB accounts to get into the men's group to snoop and put people on blast in the women's group. Fucking white trash nutjobs. Also there's lore that the women invaded the original group and got it taken down for abuse/harassment, yet the women are doing the same shit. Double standards.

Or it's some dude (usually Indian) posting a chick and the response goes:
- pass her over here homie
- hit and quit it
- ur a bitch
- a bunch of fucking simps clowning on the OP for an actual informative post

It's somehow a more degenerative version of THE DIRTY

[mikemhg]

^The girl one is hilarious because it's just dudes making fun of the incel losers who post chicks on there.

It's so completely different from the dating the same guy group where women are all supporting each other and trashing the dude being posted :lol

[Jason00S2000]

EDIT: Group now has 60K+ members https://www.facebook.com/groups/643094970606626/ :lol

The smart phone and other tech broke dating completely.

Now EVERYONE is a "Tarzan", swinging from one vine to the next but only when they have a firm grasp on the new vine do they let go of the old one. Anyone who has any experience in dating post-smart phone knows that when you are dating someone and you don't have kids... both people are likely to be flirting and keeping their options open even years into a relationship.

Guys... ask yourself how many times you've seen this situation in your life or your friend's lives:

Man A meets Woman B
Become couple
Happy social media and everyone thinks they're a happy couple
5-10 years go by and they're still "in love"
Big post made on anniversary where the woman makes a post of how much she loves her boyfriend but you can tell something is off in the post
Couple weeks go by and boyfriend's Facebook suddenly goes private/dark
Woman B suddenly shows off new cooler boyfriend in better shape with more money
Man A's Facebook active again but profile picture looks depressed
Woman B is pregnant/married in under 1-2 years with a bad boy's kid
Man A never recovers and becomes an incel Discord mod & huge pot-bellied Canucks fan goes bald and grows a beard
Woman B lives her best life after ejecting from long term comfortable relationship

[mikemhg]

^That post is quite on point actually.

That's why you have to stay in shape and keep looking good as you get older, have to keep these bitches on their toes.

[Hondaracer]

People with kids who aren’t financially secure just seem to get more and more miserable over time which ultimately leads to a split or worse

I think a lot of these scenarios laid out on the last few pages are for, lack of a better term, basic bitches, on both sides of the sexes.

If you’ve got no money, no hobbies, no friends, dead end jobs, yea you’re probably going to seek out thrills your relationship isn’t providing.

[68style]

I’ve seen plenty of dudes in my circles dump their women and be super successful after or get a younger chick and their women are too old to start over and turn into spinsters… it goes both ways.

If you’re over 40 as a single woman wanting more you might as well be dead, but a guy can keep chugging along… all the ideas above are stuck in the realm of people in their mid 20’s or early 30’s that didn’t have a sense of self when they committed to someone else.

[Gumby]

The guy that updates this sign is awesome:
https://i.imgur.com/QdDiDXI.jpeg

[Great68]

Had an interesting interaction yesterday (warning, story time).

As I mentioned earlier in the thread it's Deuce days this weekend, freaking awesome. My wife and I went downtown to watch them all arriving and cruising around downtown (IMO it's better than the actual Sunday car show because you get to see & hear them driving around).

It was a beautiful night we had a table on the patio of Belleville's, which is the restaurant right across the street from the Black Ball Ferry Terminal (the Ferry from Port Angeles Washington).

It was neat watching all the hot rods unload off the ferry, drew a big crowd.
Between all the Deuce Day people, and the cruise ships there was a shit ton of people and tourists in town, it was absolutely buzzing (except that there were a few "elbows up" protesters waving signs in front of the Legislature, but whatever).

Anyways, there were a couple of guys at the table next to us and we started chatting. They were here from Alberta for the event, they parked their trailer in Tsawwassen and drove their hot rod over, a deuce with a blown 426 hemi making 800+ HP,

He had the hot rod parked on the other side of the street from the restaurant. We were making small talk, told him about my car that's in progress, he used to have a few classic mustang etc etc. It was all good. And then I asked him what his car was like on gas, he said it took him half a tank to get to downtown from the ferry terminal lol.

And then he made a comment about how much higher the gas prices were here, and then said:

"It's 'Cause you all voted Liberal!", "You guys need to get your butt kicked and get some pipelines".

I was a bit taken aback, like I met this guy for like 10 minutes and he's going political, geez so brash. Somewhere in the conversation he even made some comments about Palestine and shit, and I was like "OK?".
The waitress came by shortly after, they were waiting for a spot at another part of the patio that had a better view of the cars, so they left.

Man, 68Style, if this is what you have to deal with on a daily basis, I feel for you man!

On the bright side, a couple of mint 1968 Shelby's showed up, a GT350 convertible and a GT500KR 428SCJ. (a couple hundred grand worth of classic mustangs on the same street). These made my day
Too new for the deuce days car show, but it brings all the other nice cars out:

https://i.imgur.com/4ncwJRC.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/CmuTjYN.jpeg

[Hondaracer]

Find me a guy with an 800 horsepower muscle car who’s a Trudeau fan and I’ll give ya a shiny silver dollar

[Jason00S2000]

Find me a guy with an 800 horsepower muscle car who’s a Trudeau fan and I’ll give ya a shiny silver dollar

:lol:lol:lol

[Great68]

I mean sure, but loudly proclaiming your politics to strangers you've met for 10 minutes is pretty low brow. Like dude I just want to talk cars, not politics. Whether I share your opinions or not.

[bcrdukes]

Man, 68Style, if this is what you have to deal with on a daily basis, I feel for you man!

Oh, he never told you? It's the reason why he wanted to moved there! :lol

[Hondaracer]

I mean sure, but loudly proclaiming your politics to strangers you've met for 10 minutes is pretty low brow. Like dude I just want to talk cars, not politics. Whether I share your opinions or not.

Well yea like I’ve always said, you’re a clown boi if you’re just spouting off politics in a random public forum, even as a joke it’s kinda gross

Car looks great though

[Great68]

Not sure I understand your comment dude. Are you trying to roast me? Because you have 10 times the number of political comments on this forum than I do...

[GS8]

Not sure I understand your comment dude. Are you trying to roast me? Because you have 10 times the number of political comments on this forum than I do...

I think he meant people in general, not you specifically.

I think...

:inout:

[westopher]

I think he means in person. Like, to be fair to him and any of us, if we are in the politics thread, we are in there and welcoming whatever people want to say whether we think it’s bullshit or not. Bringing it up in regular life out of nowhere is dumb.

[GS8]

The whole nu feminism / manosphere divergence is just more unnecessary tribal retardation our society doesn't need.

I was in a relationship with a girl and she left me to go back to her ex.

Then would post publicly on her social about how things aren't great with her ex.

Then also complain how much she hates being reminded about her past from other people.

This isn't even an exception anymore. It's straight up normal. You may as well buy a Mongol bride if you're gonna roll the dice with a someone you barely know.

[Hondaracer]

Not sure I understand your comment dude. Are you trying to roast me? Because you have 10 times the number of political comments on this forum than I do...

No sorry I’m saying the other guy is the clown for bringing it up

[noclue]

Oh, he never told you? It's the reason why he wanted to moved there! :lol

Give him 2 years and he'll start thanking Hondaracer's posts, and put a LOVE ALBERTA OIL & GAS sticker.

[Badhobz]

The whole nu feminism / manosphere divergence is just more unnecessary tribal retardation our society doesn't need.

I was in a relationship with a girl and she left me to go back to her ex.

Then would post publicly on her social about how things aren't great with her ex.

Then also complain how much she hates being reminded about her past from other people.

This isn't even an exception anymore. It's straight up normal. You may as well buy a Mongol bride if you're gonna roll the dice with a someone you barely know.

Shaddup! You had me at mongol bride.

[BIC_BAWS]

I mean sure, but loudly proclaiming your politics to strangers you've met for 10 minutes is pretty low brow. Like dude I just want to talk cars, not politics. Whether I share your opinions or not.

I had a great convo with someone at Leavensworth, WA for an euro event. We were chatting about cars and then just like your experience, out of nowhere - Trump ftw fuck trudeau fuck biden. I'm like????

[yray]

yall need to get land rovers

we just talk about maintenance issues and doing stupid shit like driving into the puddle and hydrolocking the motor :rukidding:

[donk.]

Someone mentioned US travel on here recently

Whats up with the i5 and i405 being littered with cops?

Been down to seattle a few times, usually you see 1,2 maybe 3 cops sizzling on the highway or have someone pulled over.
Today on the way down we passed 8-9 people that were pulled over, in the span of 2hrs.

lost my wallet, dont have my licence, proceeds to drive at speed limit-ish

[BIC_BAWS]

Someone mentioned US travel on here recently

Whats up with the i5 and i405 being littered with cops?

Been down to seattle a few times, usually you see 1,2 maybe 3 cops sizzling on the highway or have someone pulled over.
Today on the way down we passed 8-9 people that were pulled over, in the span of 2hrs.

lost my wallet, dont have my licence, proceeds to drive at speed limit-ish

Maybe this:

https://wsdot.wa.gov/about/news/2025/highway-speed-cameras-go-live-i-90-and-i-5-spokane-skagit-counties-encourage-safe-driving

[unit]

let me guess, that guy tells all his friends online that he never talks about politics irl?

[westopher]

Then tells stories about what all his friends think about politics last time they talked about it.

[underscore]

I mean sure, but loudly proclaiming your politics to strangers you've met for 10 minutes is pretty low brow.

Being a white dude pretty much everywhere I've been in the last 15 years I've had that happen. It's always people with right wing views who are being loud about it.

The only exception was a Texan who was vocally anti-Trump, but that was back in March and he was up in Canada so not overly surprising he wanted to make that known lol.

[Teriyaki]

Costco Richmond has self serve nitrogen tire inflating stations.
Pretty cool!

https://imgur.com/a/D1cfAML
https://imgur.com/a/D1cfAML

ugh how does one hotlink an image these days?

[Jason00S2000]

It's always people with right wing views who are being loud about it.


:lol:lol:lol

[MG1]

Costco Richmond has self serve nitrogen tire inflating stations.
Pretty cool!

https://imgur.com/a/D1cfAML
https://imgur.com/a/D1cfAML

ugh how does one hotlink an image these days?

Same type they have at the Bellingham Costco. Maybe been there for two years?

[whitev70r]

In LA, some guy drove a car into the crowd injuring 30 people. Vigilante justice took over, driver was hauled out of his car, and some guy took out a gun and shot the perpetrator. That's the difference between Canada and USA ... judge jury executioner. Honestly, I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons. Shooter was arrested and may be charged with 2nd degree murder.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/car-plows-crowd-los-angeles-after-driver-loses/story?id=123887059

Think this is the guy

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/17202208_071925-kabc-car-into-crowd-img.jpg

[Badhobz]

What’s there to weigh. If that fucker ran over your family, you’d shoot him dead too. 2nd degree murder is easy street vs the guilt of watching this guy potentially get off on a technicality

Like that labubu guy. He needed to go man.

[westopher]

If you can’t shoot someone for actively trying to kill people then what are the guns for anyways?

[Great68]

One thing I noticed about the big car show today, is that in years prior where they blocked off the streets they would just put those simple sawhorse style barriers up. This year, they actually parked police vehicles the width of the street to block them. It guess that's a result of the lapu lapu thing.

[PeanutButter]

Does anyone know where one should park if they're going to the fireworks at English bay?

We were given seats there, but I haven't been the fireworks since I was in highschool. I have no idea what the best play is to get down there.

[whitev70r]

Prob should park in Richmond, Lansdowne Mall, take the train down.

[Badhobz]

^lawl. guarantee thats not the answer he was expecting.

[bcrdukes]

Private helicopter

[whitev70r]

^lawl. guarantee thats not the answer he was expecting.

often in life, the best answer (or the most obvious) is not the one people expect.

(in case bcrdukes is looking for another quote for your sig again)

[bcrdukes]

often in life, the best answer (or the most obvious) is not the one people expect.

Or maybe I'm looking for another quote from you. :D

[westopher]

Does anyone know where one should park if they're going to the fireworks at English bay?

We were given seats there, but I haven't been the fireworks since I was in highschool. I have no idea what the best play is to get down there.

Park at home and take transit. Budget 2.5 hours each way, unless you live in the west end and can walk home lol.

[spoon.ek9]

Even when I had a rental parking spot downtown, it wasn't really worth the hassle of trying to weave your way through all of that traffic. I'd also go with transit given the options.

[BIC_BAWS]

I drove ONCE to the fireworks. It took an hour to 90 mins to get out of the downtown core. It was awful finding parking, it was awful getting out. Probably 2-2.5 hrs from fireworks to Steveston. This was 10 years ago too with significantly less traffic, would not recco.

[yray]

going there is not bad, its leaving that sucks

[CivicBlues]

I'll let you park in my spot, I'm a 15 min walk

$80 bucks.

[EvoFire]

There used to be great street parking on certain blocks after 6pm, but those are all gone now. I used to drive down in the late afternoon, park at one of the 6pm spots and go have dinner with my girlfriend and find a small spot after to watch the fireworks. Takes less than an hour to get home as I get in the car and we are out of downtown in less than 20mins.

[6793026]

Hoenstly, as long as you walk towards Granville / Pender, there are plenty of places where transit is easy to hop on and jump on the skytrain.

If you're adventurous, the business parking lots / side streets are readily available (closer to georgia) . Regardless of where you are, getting out is 25 mins (walk).

[BIC_BAWS]

LOL I think one time I walked to Stadium Chinatown over waiting in line at waterfront..

[Badhobz]

Why didnt you guys recommend the best mode of transportation?

A BICYCLE !!!

me and my old man used to ride our bikes from east van to see the fireworks. It was quite fun.

[PeanutButter]

The thought of taking transit isn't appealing at all. Being stuffed into the skytrain seems very unenjoyable. I'm pretty soft these days. I don't like being uncomfortable.

My buddy told me to park across the Burrard bridge on 4th and just walk in. Someone said park at the Westin Bayshore and walk from there.

I'm expecting about a 25+ min walk. I might just park at the Westin, that seems reasonable.

[unit]

i drove out to denman on saturday around 5. stupid i know, i didnt even realize there were fireworks.

actually the drive itself was just fine, even in dt other than a few closed streets the traffic was normal. the problem was finding parking even for 5 minutes to meet up with somebody. had to park illegally. if you ever do drive to the fireworks get ready to park at least a 20m walk away. its probably wise to park super far anyway so you can at least get out slightly easier when it's time to leave.

[Badhobz]

The thought of taking transit isn't appealing at all. Being stuffed into the skytrain seems very unenjoyable. I'm pretty soft these days. I don't like being uncomfortable.

My buddy told me to park across the Burrard bridge on 4th and just walk in. Someone said park at the Westin Bayshore and walk from there.

I'm expecting about a 25+ min walk. I might just park at the Westin, that seems reasonable.

sounds like the private choppah is the only way to go for you my mang. SeemsGood

[jing]

https://c.tenor.com/Iwgypq5HuxcAAAAC/tenor.gif

[bcrdukes]

I might just park at the Westin

What a baller.

[CivicBlues]

Anywhere you park West of Burrard I wouldn't expect to get out of downtown until past 11pm. Or you can just leave early to beat the traffic.

DO NOT under any circumstances park in Kits Point however, did that one year and was stuck getting out for hours. Only 1 way in and out.

[winson604]

The thought of taking transit isn't appealing at all. Being stuffed into the skytrain seems very unenjoyable. I'm pretty soft these days. I don't like being uncomfortable.

My buddy told me to park across the Burrard bridge on 4th and just walk in. Someone said park at the Westin Bayshore and walk from there.

I'm expecting about a 25+ min walk. I might just park at the Westin, that seems reasonable.

Parking there won't be easy either depending on how early you go because a ton of people flood the area and watch it at Vanier Park or even on Burrard Bridge itself.

[westopher]

I watched about 45 seconds from my rooftop patio on Saturday and was just like holy fuck I can’t believe people spent 5 hours on this process.

[SSM_DC5]

Is that an invite to watch from your patio so we can make it home in a respectable time?

[yray]

A BICYCLE !!!

Bike is retarded is you're bring it right to the beach, good luck getting out

Bike is gonna get stolen if you park it anywhere downtown

:lol

Park at park royal and grab a bus across. When you leave, grab a bus at georgia and denman as they have empty buses waiting there already. You be at your car in 15mins.:ilied:

[westopher]

Is that an invite to watch from your patio so we can make it home in a respectable time?

If my roof wasn’t being replaced and all my furniture was off of it I’d have an RS meet, but you guys would need to bring the beer. Next summer when the smoker and furniture is set up sure.

[SSM_DC5]

If my roof wasn’t being replaced and all my furniture was off of it I’d have an RS meet, but you guys would need to bring the beer. Next summer when the smoker and furniture is set up sure.

Someone less demented remember what he said and call him out next summer on this! :lol

[Gumby]

Someone less demented remember what he said and call him out next summer on this! :lol
That essentially rules out most of us then...

[Badhobz]

Yeah I don’t even remember what I said yesterday. Tomorrow I’ll probably go buy a beetle for fun and crash it into another beetle.

[Jason00S2000]

Yeah I don’t even remember what I said yesterday. Tomorrow I’ll probably go buy a beetle for fun and crash it into another beetle.

https://i.ibb.co/G4KrCR6g/Venice-AI-CJ4-Qu1d.png

Oh man, don't do it, they're classics!

[snowball]

There used to be great street parking on certain blocks after 6pm, but those are all gone now. I used to drive down in the late afternoon, park at one of the 6pm spots and go have dinner with my girlfriend and find a small spot after to watch the fireworks. Takes less than an hour to get home as I get in the car and we are out of downtown in less than 20mins.

Used to be able to pay and park on Pender for 2 hours until 8PM (get there at 6) then it was free unlimited parking until the show was over.

Then I'd walk down Denman, hop in my car, take Hastings to the Ironworkers, and I'd be home in 15 minutes. Can't do that anymore since they changed the pay parking to 10PM.

[EvoFire]

Used to be able to pay and park on Pender for 2 hours until 8PM (get there at 6) then it was free unlimited parking until the show was over.

Then I'd walk down Denman, hop in my car, take Hastings to the Ironworkers, and I'd be home in 15 minutes. Can't do that anymore since they changed the pay parking to 10PM.

You can still do it. Pay the two hours. Set an alarm and paybyphone for hour 3 and 4.

[68style]

I thought the app doesn't allow that because the max is supposed to be 2 hours, you have to move your car to a diff zone?

[Hondaracer]

You pay on the machine then the app

[Badhobz]

^big city brains on hondaaahh!!

[winson604]

Honda's way is way easier to achieve now since they've changed a ton of the meters in this City to pay station style vs putting in physical coins which often are jammed making this method of getting 4 hours not possible. Another way but I can't confirm it still works anymore parking as per normal via the app for 2 hrs then adding your vehicle again to the app as a new plate but change it so that the plate has a space in the middle so ABC123 then add ABC 123. It'll think it's a completely different car and allow you to pay for 2 hrs. Again I do NOT know if this still works but definitely did before.

[Badhobz]

or just rent a boat. they have a pirate boat from granville island that is 179 per person

https://www.pirateadventures.ca/specials.html

Celebration of Light Fireworks
Our yearly " The Honda Celebration of Lights" fireworks is now OPEN for bookings! $179.00 per person cold-cut buffet, beverages are included. 3 hour crouse!

Includes food!!!

[68style]

How can Hondaracer not go to the Honda Celebration of Lights

[Hondaracer]

I’d actually love to see the fireworks but everything else involved is a nightmare.

I’d probably just walk home

Haven’t been in 25+ years

[whitev70r]

How do you know if you're over the hill? When the hassle of going to see the fireworks outweigh the delight of seeing colorful explosives with a million other strangers on a beach.

[BIC_BAWS]

or just rent a boat. they have a pirate boat from granville island that is 179 per person

https://www.pirateadventures.ca/specials.html

Celebration of Light Fireworks
Our yearly " The Honda Celebration of Lights" fireworks is now OPEN for bookings! $179.00 per person cold-cut buffet, beverages are included. 3 hour crouse!

Includes food!!!

This thing is as rickety as it sounds. I went to RZD's birthday on this thing. Had a blast. Only sus cause I can't swim.

[68style]

Just find a floating severed foot to hold on to like a little life preserver

[EvoFire]

I’d actually love to see the fireworks but everything else involved is a nightmare.

I’d probably just walk home

Haven’t been in 25+ years

25+ years? Dude how old are you? 50?

[68style]

He’s an old soul

[Hondaracer]

25+ years? Dude how old are you? 50?

Eh maybe 15-20 years then

Last time I remember going was briefly after Highschool so would have been like 06, in 39

[winson604]

I’d actually love to see the fireworks but everything else involved is a nightmare.

I’d probably just walk home

Haven’t been in 25+ years

Time flies and I'm not even super old but aside from taking my oldest to see fireworks one time when he was younger like 7 years or so ago the last time prior to that was in HS so somewhere around 99/2000.

[spoon.ek9]

Park far + rental scooter seems like it might be a fun way to get there. Also don't have to worry about the scooter being stolen vs your own bike. Walk back to car on a summer night and hopefully no heavy traffic on the way home.

[EvoFire]

Eh maybe 15-20 years then

Last time I remember going was briefly after Highschool so would have been like 06, in 39

:lol

Old enough to think it was sooooooo long ago. You are actually approx my age.

The fireworks is special to us cause it's my wife and I's first date. We went every year up until the year before we got pregnant.

[radeonboy]

For those that are living in Hong Kong, what is the general process of selling a vehicle privately? I asked Perplexity but not sure how accurate it is.

Parents might let go of their Model Y and the sales rep said they'll get a lot more $ selling privately instead of trading it in.

[Badhobz]

how does your bike get stolen though? you just ride your bike right onto the grass, park it next to you and there you go. at least thats what me and my dad did back in the days.

[Badhobz]

The fireworks is special to us cause it's my wife and I's first date. We went every year up until the year before we got pregnant.

:heckno: male pregnancy are hard after 40 :heckno:

[Great68]

RIP Ozzy Osbourne https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/article/ozzy-osbourne-dead-at-76/

[68style]

Was just watching some video of Yungblud gifting him a necklace backstage of the tribute show the other day sharing a moment with him, looked to be in very poor condition but came off as a very caring and loving soul in their exchange… likely knowing his days were numbered… RIP

https://x.com/yungblud/status/1942616725683401070

[MG1]

https://tamiyablog.com/2025/07/in-memoriam-mr-shunsaku-tamiya/

Some sad news. RIP, Namo Amida Butsu, Tamiya Sensei.

BTW, he’s not the founder of Tamiya. That would be Yoshio Tamiya. Shunsaku is the son who basically started the plastic modeling division and grew the company to what it is now. I was at the Tamiya headquarters last October, the guy was simply amazing. Great visionary.

[6793026]

anyone read about the Telsa Diner?
https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/07/22/PNAS/85317422007-tesla-diner.jpg?crop=1245,699,x77,y0&width=660&height=371&format=pjpg&auto=webp

order via your car.
$13 bucks for burger
people come out with roller blade
charge your car, fill ur stomach.
"Tesla Burger" with "Electric Sauce."
Located in West Hollywood for now.

[bcrdukes]

About time they figured something out.

[6793026]

For those that are living in Hong Kong, what is the general process of selling a vehicle privately? I asked Perplexity but not sure how accurate it is.

Parents might let go of their Model Y and the sales rep said they'll get a lot more $ selling privately instead of trading it in.

hwo is it any different than here? FB marketplace?
My buddy in hk got his Telsa in HK and also bought 2nd hand 911, so i can ask for you.

[Badhobz]

I hardly see any 911s in HK. The ones I see are also sub 997 ones as nobody there seems interested in paying the new Msrp.

[sonick]

anyone read about the Telsa Diner?
https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/07/22/PNAS/85317422007-tesla-diner.jpg?crop=1245,699,x77,y0&width=660&height=371&format=pjpg&auto=webp

order via your car.
$13 bucks for burger
people come out with roller blade
charge your car, fill ur stomach.
"Tesla Burger" with "Electric Sauce."
Located in West Hollywood for now.

nice, right in the middle of liberal homo capital of murika

[westopher]

anyone read about the Telsa Diner?
https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/07/22/PNAS/85317422007-tesla-diner.jpg?crop=1245,699,x77,y0&width=660&height=371&format=pjpg&auto=webp

order via your car.
$13 bucks for burger
people come out with roller blade
charge your car, fill ur stomach.
"Tesla Burger" with "Electric Sauce."
Located in West Hollywood for now.
Are the burgers as fucking shitty as their cars?

[Jason00S2000]

RIP Ozzy Osbourne https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/article/ozzy-osbourne-dead-at-76/

https://x.com/InsaneRealitys/status/1947722755581088120

[PeanutButter]

Are the burgers as fucking shitty as their cars?

Aren't Teslas the safest cars in the world?

I recall some lunatic driving their Tesla off a cliff and everyone survived, which is pretty sad since everyone was his wife and two kids.

[westopher]

Tesla has the highest deaths/miles driven of any car brand, followed by Kia, so no.
Part of that I’m sure has to do with the demographic and other factors, but you don’t get that stat by being the safest car.
There’s also other measures of makes a car shit beyond safety, like cost, reliability, maintenance costs, build quality, looks, enjoyment, etc.

[spoon.ek9]

Tesla has the highest deaths/miles driven of any car brand, followed by Kia, so no.
Part of that I’m sure has to do with the demographic and other factors, but you don’t get that stat by being the safest car.
There’s also other measures of makes a car shit beyond safety, like cost, reliability, maintenance costs, build quality, looks, enjoyment, etc.

quick google search backs this up. teslurr, kia and buick are top 3 worst in crashes.

[Hondaracer]

People who can’t drive, people who can’t afford to insure anything but a Kia, and old fucks :lol

[Gumby]

I wander if someone's gonna come in and defend Tesla soon...

[GS8]

quick google search backs this up. teslurr, kia and buick are top 3 worst in crashes.

Hmm

Harshits, Dillydeeps & Wi Tiu Lo's - Tesla
420 credit scorers - Kia
Doris & Archibald don't even know what day it is - Buick

[Jason00S2000]

The Plaid is insanely fucking fast and none of the tuning needed like a 9 second ICE engine.

No worries about getting some bad gas and blowing a motor. I admit the Plaid has ICE engines beat there because I have never heard of a Tesla owner racing their car and having the battery or motors explode. The Plaid I rode in went into protection mode after multiple holy-fucking-shit acceleration bursts.

[spoon.ek9]

Not sure that anyone posted about it, but Malcolm Jamal Warner passed away a couple of days ago. Accidental drowning, he was only 54.

[mikemhg]

Why didnt you guys recommend the best mode of transportation?

A BICYCLE !!!

me and my old man used to ride our bikes from east van to see the fireworks. It was quite fun.

This man is right, biking down is easily the best.

I usually leave my place by Brentwood around 8:30, get down to English Bay by 9:30ish. Stand up on the road at Beach and watch them from there, leaving is pretty easy too since you're usually some of the first people out, end back home in about an hour as well.

[mikemhg]

quick google search backs this up. teslurr, kia and buick are top 3 worst in crashes.

I'm surprised I'm just learning this now, always had read Tesla scored high in crash ratings, but again that's separate from pre-crash issues.

If only we had a poster here able to clarify this.

[RabidRat]

I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation for this.

[Hehe]

quick google search backs this up. teslurr, kia and buick are top 3 worst in crashes.

Your google-fu needs improving. That entire statement by westopher is backed by a SINGLE study done by "iSeeCars", while that study points to using FARS by NHTSA.

First, iSeeCars is no one. They have ZERO reputation on doing car safety reports.

Second, if you actually cared to do a few more clicks and had done at least Stat 101, you'd see that iSeeCars' study cannot be replicated because there's nothing in NHTSA data that matches its "death by miles" criteria.

Westopher is nothing but a Tesla hating libtard who sees the click-bait title and cum because it fits his narrative.

Before you frame me as fan boy, please do your homework and get back to me. I spent 10min downloading the data from NHTSA (https://www.nhtsa.gov/file-downloads?p=nhtsa/downloads/FARS/)myself and did some basic stat work. If anything, Tesla is still the safest cars on road. iSeeCars manipulated datas specifically to make Tesla look bad.

And I really feel bad for libtards. They have so much hate that as long as they read something that fits their narrative and they would reach orgasm and spread all sort of hate. There is neither desire to seek the truth nor the incentive because they are afraid of finding out what they believe are not true.

Seriously... get down to the source, do your own work and then formulate your conclusion. Don't just right click, click on "search on Google" and think you have all the truth.

[bcrdukes]

:ahwow: The Tesla saviour is here among us

[68style]

Any hope of taking that entire post seriously went out the door when he started throwing around "libtard"... is this 2020 again?

Is it that hard to talk to someone without classifying the entirety of their existence under one banner in your mind?

[Hehe]

Any hope of taking that entire post seriously went out the door when he started throwing around "libtard"... is this 2020 again?

Is it that hard to talk to someone without classifying the entirety of their existence under one banner in your mind?

It's no different than classifying someone as Tesla fan boy or whatever.

I think comparing to what they have called me before, libtard is actually being nice already. Have I ever complained?

If he's that soft and be offended by some anonymous dude he met on a forum, I am sorry, but grow the fuck up.

And I might be a Tesla fanboy. Not gonna lie... but I'm always about truth-seeking. They just want to come up with lies and BS that they read somewhere online, and ok... freedom of expression and opinion. But so is my right to call him out on his BS.

[spoon.ek9]

am I supposed to be the one who's offended? :lol

I didn't even know, but ok

[SkinnyPupp]

offended by some anonymous dude he met on a forum, I am sorry, but grow the fuck up.

You should be taking your own advice

[Hehe]

You should be taking your own advice

Did I remotely show upset in any way? Nop. I was just telling him he got it wrong.

I have never been upset about anything regardless how stupid or wrong I feel some comments are and always try to maintain a conversation based on facts. The fact that RS needed a FightClub was beyond me. I'm always like... how old are these people? 5?

[Badhobz]

What’s wrong with being 5 ?!?!? Tag you’re it !!!!

You can’t say Tesla around here without hehe popping up like beetlejuice. Say Tesla or Elon 3x and beware.

[68style]

I dunno you got pretty offended pretty fast and you’re definitely a fanboy I don’t think that’s inaccurate. I don’t think westopher is a libtard though. Could just correct the source and be done with it. You kinda make it sound like you can’t hate Teslas without being a libtard? What if you just think they suck as a vehicle for your own reasons?

I mean, personally crash safety isn’t even a blip on my radar when deciding on a vehicle so I couldn’t possibly care less… I prefer driving older cars and they’ll all get demolished by most modern vehicles. C’est la vie, don’t crash.

Anyway, I’m waiting for the trip down to the diner report, will be better than Michelin star and/or I’m sure it will be recommended to receive one.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://i.imgur.com/oMw5npn.png

[Badhobz]

I don’t think westopher is a libtard though.

hes wayyyy past libtard. He's full on Bolshevik... be careful eating his food, one taste and all of a sudden you're like

https://media.tenor.com/AY1TlgDNoG0AAAAM/capitalism-communism.gif

[westopher]

Your google-fu needs improving. That entire statement by westopher is backed by a SINGLE study done by "iSeeCars", while that study points to using FARS by NHTSA.

First, iSeeCars is no one. They have ZERO reputation on doing car safety reports.

Second, if you actually cared to do a few more clicks and had done at least Stat 101, you'd see that iSeeCars' study cannot be replicated because there's nothing in NHTSA data that matches its "death by miles" criteria.

Westopher is nothing but a Tesla hating libtard who sees the click-bait title and cum because it fits his narrative.

Before you frame me as fan boy, please do your homework and get back to me. I spent 10min downloading the data from NHTSA (https://www.nhtsa.gov/file-downloads?p=nhtsa/downloads/FARS/)myself and did some basic stat work. If anything, Tesla is still the safest cars on road. iSeeCars manipulated datas specifically to make Tesla look bad.

And I really feel bad for libtards. They have so much hate that as long as they read something that fits their narrative and they would reach orgasm and spread all sort of hate. There is neither desire to seek the truth nor the incentive because they are afraid of finding out what they believe are not true.

Seriously... get down to the source, do your own work and then formulate your conclusion. Don't just right click, click on "search on Google" and think you have all the truth.

lol is there steam coming out of your ears here? You spend your time on the internet writing 3000 word essays doing anything you can to suck elons dick in hopes one day he reads it and lets you be his next artificially inseminated baby mama and you want to talk about doing what you can to fit a narrative?
The number is based on stats. If you haven’t let Elon give you a botched neuralink yet you can expand from the comment I made it clear it doesn’t only mean Tesla is the most dangerous car on the road for the occupants or based on actual safety crash tests. It has to do with pedestrian safety, weighing 96 million pounds, starting on fire and burning everyone around it while it can’t be put out, the people that buy them driving like fucking morons, etc.
You are like the guy who’s racked out of his fucking mind at 4am at the kitchen table, jaw just swinging while he foams at the mouth waiting to unload his stream of consciousness without hearing anything beyond the first sentence from the guy that was just talking.

[supafamous]

:ahwow: The Tesla saviour is here among us

Praise the lord. No bigger loser on here than hehe.

[Jason00S2000]

you want to talk about doing what you can to fit a narrative?
The number is based on stats.

These same dudes will ignore the fact that the COVID "vaccine" has had more negative reports than all other vaccines combined in history.

:lol:lol:lol


the people that buy them driving like fucking morons, etc.

Even my 9 year old knows that a white Tesla = make sure you make eye contact with the driver before crossing the road / parking lot / whatever.

[punkwax]

Dude. Stop talking about the vaccine. No one else is. Shut the fuck up about it.

Seriously.

[whitev70r]

If you go to fireworks, this is the kind of fireworks you can look forward to afterwards:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMWQXatSZGu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVVo4ixHJm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

how da hell do you embed insta?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVVo4ixHJm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[EvoFire]

Just ignore. You can only talk to a wall that doesn't talk back for so long.

[mikemhg]

Describing Hehe as a "fanboy" is a massive understatement, limerence might be more fitting.

[RevYouUp]

I would be a fanboy too if I invested in Tesla and made 6-7 figures

[PeanutButter]

I always thought EV's were safer because they have crumple zones due to lack of engine.

Curious to know why Tesla's would have more fatalities than any other brand considering their crash test ratings are among the highest.

I really wish I had a tesla though. I drive mostly highway and having even their basic autopilot would make my commute so much easier. I've sat in one with just their basic autopilot and I thought it was fantastic.

[westopher]

I mentioned already why.
Shitty drivers that own the cars. Pedestrian safety is near zero. Crumple zones don’t save you when you are getting cremated by your cybertruck. The fake FSD that absolute morons are allowed to use even though it isn’t safe for roads.
There’s more to it than crash testing. You need to consider the big picture.

[RevYouUp]

Getting locked in the car when it is on fire is a no bueno for me

[yray]

parshitdeep driving 90 in a 50 flipping inbetween uber and lyft app to hold their spot probably contributed to the crashes

[RabidRat]

Getting locked in the car when it is on fire is a no bueno for me

Yeah honestly. Why are manufacturers obsessed with fixing what ain't broken. Who asked for electronically actuated doors? Literally nobody ever.

[SSM_DC5]

Yeah honestly. Why are manufacturers obsessed with fixing what ain't broken. Who asked for electronically actuated doors? Literally nobody ever.

Summarizing Hehe here but "you don't know what's good for you, tesla does and that's why it's electronic"

[Hehe]

It's just so many fake news and rumors that have people stating them as facts that bothers me.

I'm going to assume that you were referring to a Tesla that the door wouldn't open when it's on fire?

The car literally has the mechanical override latch(it bypass everything electronic and unlatches mechanically) right by the door. Rear ones is a bit further down depending on model, but Model S3XY and CT all have them right there for front passengers. So much so that for most people who have rode Teslas for the first time mostly use that latch to open the door until they are being told that they just need to press the button.

My dad basically continued using the emergency latch until he took my car for a few month when I went away for work. For the 3 years that I have told him he only needs to press the button... nop... first instinct is that latch because it's the closest thing to other cars' mechanism.

Some argues why fix something that's not broken, like... come on. Adding rear camera to cars was basically another thing that fix something that's not broken. But it's convenient. Press a button and out you go.

Again, back to what I was saying... people now have the tendency to find things that fit their narrative, regardless whether it makes real sense or not.

"Tesla has highest death per miles drive" - Yet somehow every single official crash test gave Teslas their highest score EVER.

"Tesla doors doesn't open when power shuts off" - So, it's a problem when Tesla uses it, and yet when Benz, BMW, Cadillac... etc use it and it's fine.

Just acknowledge your bias first, then post. So people know to take your statement with a grain of salt. But posting them as they were facts... going so far as "I googled and it's tRuE"...

:fuckthatshit:

[bcrdukes]

Hehe is on FIRE!

[westopher]

Since we are on facts and objectivity here, what does “full self driving” mean?
On the topic of pieces of shit on another note, how many vehicles have been released in the last 5 years where panels fly off due to wind?

[snowball]

Yeah honestly. Why are manufacturers obsessed with fixing what ain't broken. Who asked for electronically actuated doors? Literally nobody ever.

Electronic doors that legally have to have a manual override anyway, lol, the part is already installed, just use it.

[RabidRat]

Some argues why fix something that's not broken, like... come on. Adding rear camera to cars was basically another thing that fix something that's not broken. But it's convenient. Press a button and out you go.

In the case of the rear camera, it gets rid of a blind spot looking out the back. Prevents running over pets and little kids. I think that's a pretty big safety improvement.

But is pressing a button really better than pulling on a handle?

Calling out my bias that I had a Mustang Mach-E rental a couple weeks ago and you open the door by pressing on a glowing white circle on the door that lights up as you approach. You press, it pops the door open.

Except that I walked up, it glowed, I pressed, and nothing happened. I tried poking and prodding more times, nothing. I'm standing there staring at it, when suddenly the door pops open, all by itself. What the fuck.

Last month I dropped by a Polestar showroom to check out the $25k rebated Polestar 3. Same thing: pulled on the handle to open the door, nothing. I thought it was locked and started walking away, when suddenly the door just popped open behind me, all by itself.

Why!! Why is this better?!

[radeonboy]

I don't have a problem with electronic door handles if they're implemented properly or provide some benefit over mechanical handles, but glitchy software like RabidRat experienced undermines trust in the technology. When something as basic as opening a door becomes complicated by unreliable electronics or laggy responses, it feels less like progress and more like unnecessary complication.

That said, I believe electronic interior handles have the added benefit in preventing people from opening doors in dangerous situations (not opening when the car detects cyclists coming by, traffic etc.) and making doors marginally easier to open than a conventional handle, but it's not a big QoL improvement that warrants the added mechanical / electrical complexity IMO.

[Gumby]

Yeah honestly. Why are manufacturers obsessed with fixing what ain't broken. Who asked for electronically actuated doors? Literally nobody ever.
Changing the steering wheel into a yoke, removing the turning signal stalk, etc.

[RabidRat]

How about turning the gear shifter into a dial:

https://www.macheforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Ford-Mustang-Mach-E-gear-dial.jpg

Or sprinkling the shifter into the center console as a series of nondescript buttons. Let's locate them with the HVAC controls:

https://d2ivfcfbdvj3sm.cloudfront.net/7fc965ab77efe6e0fa62e4ca1ea7673bb65b4751081e3d8e88 cb10/stills_0640_png/MY2023/51603/51603_st0640_087.png

How about making HVAC and temperature controls share knobs and buttons, and the way you switch between them, is you press a capacitive touch sensitive icon that sits in the middle of a sea other other icons:

https://zecar.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.sanity.io%2Fimages%2Fo 5m1ex7g%2Fproduction%2F5c74db9e607af2b183eb1547182 2cb9b233ae159-1920x1280.jpg&w=3840&q=75

https://autoimage.capitalone.com/cms/Auto/assets/images/3597-inset07-2024-kia-niro-ev-dual-purpose-dashboard-control.jpg?width=1847&height

[bcrdukes]

Which manufacturers/models are these examples?

[AstulzerRZD]

Mach E, GMC Acadia??, EV6.

FWIW I like the dial, esp on RAM1500.
Super easy to flick into park/drive when in traffic cuz they don’t have auto hold.

Ford’s columns and dial shifter are their best ones.
The normal shifter on lightning takes forever to let me shift back and forth for a 3 point turn.

[Badhobz]

HES RIGHT!!!! It’s all fucking garbage. All of it!!!

[whitev70r]

Let's face it, this forum are full of people locked into the way cars are designed in the 90's - round steering wheel, turn signal stalk on the left, physical shifter on the right, 2 or 3 pedals, physical buttons for heat/AC, side mirrors. With the exception of a button here or there changed, or screen sharper and bigger, every 'innovation' will be seen as unnecessary ... :lol.

[Badhobz]

yes! us geezers dont like anything.

[RabidRat]

I believe electronic interior handles have the added benefit in preventing people from opening doors in dangerous situations (not opening when the car detects cyclists coming by, traffic etc.)

Agreed, but you know what'd be equally useful and 100% less complicated & annoying: if the car would just activate the existing Blind Soot Monitoring beeping and flashing if I reach for the handle when cyclists are detected.

In the same way that I'd rather have a rear camera so I can see the hazard and decide what to do about it myself, vs an option of hiding that from me and having the car just automatically slam on the brake whenever it THINKS objects are detected upon reversing.

[68style]

I didn't like the Mercedes style shifter when I first got mine... but after using it for a couple days it's pretty intuitive, not all that different from the old column shifters and more... elegant? to use compared to a column shifter. It's nice to have the console area free for other stuff too.

[jing]

Agreed, but you know what'd be equally useful and 100% less complicated & annoying: if the car would just activate the existing Blind Soot Monitoring beeping and flashing if I reach for the handle when cyclists are detected.

In the same way that I'd rather have a rear camera so I can see the hazard and decide what to do about it myself, vs an option of hiding that from me and having the car just automatically slam on the brake whenever it THINKS objects are detected upon reversing.

Lexus does a similar thing with the BS(D)M and the electronic door handle. Door won't open if incoming detected.

On the topic of why fix what ain't broke, what's the deal with digital rear view mirrors? I'm turning that shit off every time.

[68style]

Hulkamania not running wild anymore, Hulk Hogan dead at 71.

Turned into a MAGA shithead the last while but what an absolute fucking heroic icon as a kid. RIP brutha.

[Jason00S2000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJDAVvs_JA

RIP legend... Hulk Hogan.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0372578e67169a621d00b6580a176e50/tenor.gif

[Gumby]

Lexus does a similar thing with the BS(D)M and the electronic door handle. Door won't open if incoming detected.

On the topic of why fix what ain't broke, what's the deal with digital rear view mirrors? I'm turning that shit off every time.
Yeah digital rear mirrors? Another expensive item to replace if it breaks...

I think the supposed advantage is that they don't get dirty like physical mirrors. But camera lenses can get dirty too!

[bcrdukes]

RIP Hulk Hogan :(

[pastarocket]

RIP Hulk Hogan. FeelsBadMan


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[mikemhg]

Change for the sake of change because infinite growth is needed, consumers need to consume new product, so we must change basic functionality to incentivize a new model year.

The same shit happens in tech (which is pretty much what cars are now), and it's fucking retarded.

[bcrdukes]

Since we're talking about car buttons and switches...

Complicated technology derails owner satisfaction with new-model launches: Owners of carryover models express more emotional affinity for their vehicle than do owners of new-model launches (852 vs. 846, respectively) for a second consecutive year. Similarly, new models—which make up 14% of the industry this year—suffered from lower quality performance in this year’s J.D. Power U.S. Initial Quality Study. Also, in this year’s APEAL Study, the largest satisfaction gaps for launch vehicles are in vehicle setup/startup (via the app) and infotainment—gaps that are especially pronounced in the premium segment, where carryover models score 48 points higher for setup/startup and 26 points higher for infotainment.
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2025-us-automotive-performance-execution-and-layout-apeal-study

[spoon.ek9]

Let's face it, this forum are full of people locked into the way cars are designed in the 90's - round steering wheel, turn signal stalk on the left, physical shifter on the right, 2 or 3 pedals, physical buttons for heat/AC, side mirrors. With the exception of a button here or there changed, or screen sharper and bigger, every 'innovation' will be seen as unnecessary ... :lol.

you guys have buttons for your mirrors? what's AC? :lol

[Traum]

I lament the fact that my childhood entertainment icon is no longer with us, but it has been that way for a a solid ~10 years. (His racist rant was revealed in ~2015) And the fact that his disgusting behaviour really took place another 9 years before that (in 2006?) simply meant he did a good job at deceiving his fans.

Interestingly, I have similar sentiments towards Jackie Chan as I do with Hulk Hogan too...