[GS8]

Diamond rings? Gold bars?

Fuckin ell, I just gave my girlfriend this ring and it made her lifetime:


https://live.staticflickr.com/4132/4843077008_ffc67a27e2_b.jpg


Then she wanted my main course

[Hehe]

That makes no sense.

He could have just invested the $35k over 20 years had the same result if not better.

And what's anyone supposed to do with a gold bar? Take it out and rub it / polish it? Does she pull it out to show her friends when they come over? Did they take engagement pictures with the gold bar in both their hands?

Also no humble brag there at all that people were casually blowing $30k on engagement rings 20 years ago lol

It's more of a symbol than anything else. The very same reason why Asian (Chinese and Indian) tend to get gold chains, rings and jewelry made out of gold for wedding, newborn and whatever. IYKYK.

I wish I could afford something like that when I got married. My proposal ring was a plastic ring from Superstore (I shit you not). The only real splurge we had at our wedding was that we did host the wedding at a 5-star resort in a small town that was paid between our parents. But other than that, it was trying to put all the money into investment properties and my wife's study for a better future.

Wife kept the plastic ring all this time in the safe. When we thought we kinda made it, when she got a very decent position and my investment properties were working better than I could ever hoped, I threw in the idea to take that plastic ring and have one custom-made with the real thing... pink diamond and all. But wife just said why bother, she already got the ring.

[6793026]

^ every gf goes thru that stage of wanting a bigger ring.

then once wedding is settled and done; 3 years later, work, life, bills later.... you got it... -meh.. why get a bigger ring...

While this is 'the norm' we are talking about, those are who still chasing unicorns won't understand this level exists.

[MG1]

As early as June, BC Hydro is changing the way they charge for electricity usage.

https://www.bchydro.com/about/strategies-plans-regulatory/rate-design/current-activities/residential-rate-design.html?utm_source=connected&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=24-05&utm_content=time_of_day

This is so cool. I’ll have to find the remote charging remote that came with my EV. Dishes and laundry will be done off peak hours. I already use my PVR to record shit. I’ll watch them at off peak hours. Televisions, at least they used to be, one of the highest electricity hogs. Then again, probably not Jbol.

Discount vs surcharge……… -5% or +5%. If I read it correctly

Still two tier system in place. If EV charging can be taken out of the equation, I’d be all over that.

[Badhobz]

My proposal ring was a plastic ring from Superstore (I shit you not).

SEE! i TOLD YOU HE...HE...is destitute!!!!

what kind a plastic ring does stupidstore even sell!?

[spoon.ek9]

the kind of shit you get for free at the dentist's office when you're a kid?

[Hehe]

SEE! i TOLD YOU HE...HE...is destitute!!!!

what kind a plastic ring does stupidstore even sell!?

It’s like those you can get at Claires for young girls.

Metrotown superstore. I still remember that we were discussing how to make our budget work between her master degree tuition and my investment property that we wanted to buy, and I was like, there’s a way to make it work…

And we picked the ring right there. $19.99. When I told my friend about it, they were all like, I can’t believe you pulled that off. :fuckthatshit:

[Razor Ramon HG]

https://thejoyofcookingmilhousehome.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/onion-ring-wedding-ring-sg-2.jpg

[Great68]

Discount vs surcharge……… -5% or +5%. If I read it correctly



Electricity used between 11pm to 7am is charged at 5cents per kWh less than standard rate

Electricity used between 7am to 4pm and 9pm to 11pm is charged at standard rate

Electricity used between 4pm to 9pm is charged at 5cents per kWh more than standard rate

The two tier rates still apply.

IMO this is really only useful for people with EV's that can schedule charging for overnight.

For the rest of us, the savings of doing laundry overnight is barely worth mentioning, especially if you're primary cooking means is an electric oven where you'll be paying more to cook your food from 4-9.

And for those of us with electric heating sources, it makes even less sense. Can't turn heat off.

I know you have an EV, but those who don't this makes absolutely no sense.

[Badhobz]

For hEHa's dad!
https://www.mint.ca/globalassets/products/2024/l4/244230-pure-gold-diamond-shaped-coin-de-beers-ideal-cushion-diamond/244230_rev-1200.png
https://www.mint.ca/en/shop/coins/2024/pure-gold-diamond-shaped-coin-de-beers-ideal-cushion-diamond
Limited to 150, ~5 ounces of gold + you get a diamond!

would be baller if you can get a chain around it, or somehow make into a ring.

[Badhobz]

It’s like those you can get at Claires for young girls.

Metrotown superstore. I still remember that we were discussing how to make our budget work between her master degree tuition and my investment property that we wanted to buy, and I was like, there’s a way to make it work…

And we picked the ring right there. $19.99. When I told my friend about it, they were all like, I can’t believe you pulled that off. :fuckthatshit:

you overpaid!!!! your ancestors would be ashamed.

[Hehe]

For hEHa's dad!
https://www.mint.ca/en/shop/coins/2024/pure-gold-diamond-shaped-coin-de-beers-ideal-cushion-diamond
Limited to 150, ~5 ounces of gold + you get a diamond!

would be baller if you can get a chain around it, or somehow make into a ring.

What kind of peasant do you think my dad is? :troll:

[Badhobz]

What kind of peasant do you think my dad is? :troll:
What ? He doesn’t hoard gold like every other China menz ? There’s a good chance this is a good investment since it’s limited to 150.

Plus isnt gold like 3300 bucks a ounce right now anyways? x5 ounces and youre doing pretty good.

Better if he adds a chain and wears it around his neck.

[Hehe]

He isn’t into gold or jewelry. The only thing I’m aware of are 4 one once gold plate for each of his grandkids and some bracelet and necklaces that he got for my mom. Used to have some gold coins, but I no longer see them in the bank safe at least last time I was there.

His wine and spirits collection is easily more valuable than all that combined since dad took an extra insurance policy on those.

[Badhobz]

go drink his pricy booze! then blame it on the maid

[Gumby]

Thanks for the recommendation. Out of curiosity, I'll get a quote from BBQ B Clean (they steam clean) but my Weber only cost around $1000 new, so $400 does seem a bit high. The Vancouver BBQ Boys website says $175 which seems pretty reasonable given the work they do.
Just to follow up on this, BBQ B Clean got back to me with the following:

We charge on time ....plus gst
4.5 hrs is $415, 4hrs is $380, 3.5 is $345, 3 hours is $310, 2.5 is $275, 2 hours is $240 - it all depends on how dirty the bbq is, when was the last professional clean, what is cooked upon them, how big they are, how often used etc etc - lots of variables.
A Weber 3 burner usually takes around 3.5-4.5 hours.
I might just splurge and get it deep cleaned now (after 9 years), then use BBQ Boys maybe on an annual basis after.

[xxxrsxxx]

Just to follow up on this, BBQ B Clean got back to me with the following:


I might just splurge and get it deep cleaned now (after 9 years), then use BBQ Boys maybe on an annual basis after.

If you go ahead with it, please show before/after pics!

[Great68]

Paying $400 to clean a bbq just seems insane.

I do an annual maintenance on my Napoleon, all it takes is a shop vac to get the crusty bits out of the fire box, some compressed air to blow out the burners, and wipe the exterior down with some degreaser/bbq cleaner. Takes me all of like an hour.

[unit]

i mean how clean does a bbq have to be? those prices sound like they are trying to scrub it to look like it's brand new. cook a few times on it and it's going to look used again. it's not a classic car, it's a bbq.

[Great68]

Yeah I mean as long as the burners aren't clogged, it's not like some grease staining in the firebox is going to affect how the thing cooks.

[mikemhg]

Exactly, plus the bits that get carbonized (burner covers for example) are hella cheap to replace.

If you clean it out at the beginning of every season, and make sure you run your burners for a bit after cooking, you shouldn't need to hire cleaners for your BBQ.

Voila, good as new.

[mikemhg]

Throw the idea of spending 1k on a ring instead, and the other 5k on a vacation, and see how she responds. If your already doing a honeymoon or whatever, then tell her you will put 5k towards the next vacation

The above obviously depends on your net worth / income as well, hehe could throw 50k at a ring and not even blink

I personally think rings are a waste of money, at least the vacation is something both of you can enjoy together

I'm in the same boat, I'm a vacation guy. I'd rather spend the money towards a trip to Bora Bora or Maldives, something we'll ball out on.

I fundamentally hate the idea of spending thousands of dollars on an infinite resource such as a diamond, it's one of the stupidest things we've been gaslit into purchasing as a means to profess our love for someone.

[Hondaracer]

I hope your bbq is like $2500 if you’re spending $400 to have it cleaned lol

I just grab a drywall putty knife for $8 from HD, at the end of each year scrape everything out the bottom, wipe the inside and burners down, run the bbq for 10 minutes, good for another season

[Gumby]

Thanks for talking some sense into me, LOL.

I'll just clean the damn thing myself. :)

[sonick]

Using a shop vac to clean up the dried chunks from the bottom of the box is super handy.

[Great68]

The beautiful thing about the Napoleons (at least the Prestige series that I have) is that the entire bottom of the firebox is a removable stainless steel tray that you can pull out. Makes cleaning it super easy.

[GLOW]

what if the inside has mold growing, do you just soap and water and let it burn for a while or is there more to it?

[Great68]

Nope, that's about all there is to it. Fire kills all.

[punkwax]

Costco

The best place for avocados :buttrock:

[supafamous]

Thanks for talking some sense into me, LOL.

I'll just clean the damn thing myself. :)

It really depends on how dirty it is and how much time you have. When I hired the college kid I hadn't cleaned mine in years and couldn't be bothered doing it myself with a new baby at the time. He did a way better job that I would have and did it twice as fast as I could have done it.

Now that it's clean I've been able to keep up with maintenance on it each year - it helps that I have 4 BBQs now so nothing gets used that much anymore. The hardest one for me to clean nowadays is my Weber kettle where I cook a lot of fatty stuff at high heat so the bowl is pretty greasy after a season of grilling. That one needs a good paint scraper each season.

[GLOW]

Nope, that's about all there is to it. Fire kills all.

noted

https://media.tenor.com/DrU8PT2Qj2oAAAAM/kill-it-with-fire-fire.gif

[bcrdukes]

The best place for avocados :buttrock:

Curious why it is the best place for avocados? Asking as I've never purchased them myself.

[sonick]

It really depends on how dirty it is and how much time you have. When I hired the college kid I hadn't cleaned mine in years and couldn't be bothered doing it myself with a new baby at the time. He did a way better job that I would have and did it twice as fast as I could have done it.

Now that it's clean I've been able to keep up with maintenance on it each year - it helps that I have 4 BBQs now so nothing gets used that much anymore. The hardest one for me to clean nowadays is my Weber kettle where I cook a lot of fatty stuff at high heat so the bowl is pretty greasy after a season of grilling. That one needs a good paint scraper each season.

Since I bought a weber charcoal kettle 2 years ago I haven't fired up my propane Broil King. I wanna sell it this year but not looking forward to cleaning it lol.

[unit]

i find that all avocados are the same thing. some are bigger some are smaller, but if the price seems reasonable then i've never seen a diff in quality that was noticeable in the final dish. the main thing is nurturing them to ripeness and eating them at precisely the right time. that's the most important part.

[Mikoyan]

^ every gf goes thru that stage of wanting a bigger ring.

then once wedding is settled and done; 3 years later, work, life, bills later.... you got it... -meh.. why get a bigger ring...

While this is 'the norm' we are talking about, those are who still chasing unicorns won't understand this level exists.

Every time my wife joking brings up that she needs a bigger replacement diamond engagement ring my reply has always been, "you better ask the replacement husband for that then."

[Hondaracer]

Curious why it is the best place for avocados? Asking as I've never purchased them myself.

They are bigger than virtually anywhere else I’ve ever seen, they generally taste better than any other grocer, the price is the best price per AVacado you can find outside of the Chinese grocers who’s AVacados are generally bad before you buy them

But to me, the biggest thing is they last. You toss the bag in the fridge and take one out at a time and let it ripen, use it, take out another one. You can easily stretch the 4 out over 2+ weeks and still be tasty. I don’t buy them anywhere else

[mikemhg]

It really depends on how dirty it is and how much time you have. When I hired the college kid I hadn't cleaned mine in years and couldn't be bothered doing it myself with a new baby at the time. He did a way better job that I would have and did it twice as fast as I could have done it.

Now that it's clean I've been able to keep up with maintenance on it each year - it helps that I have 4 BBQs now so nothing gets used that much anymore. The hardest one for me to clean nowadays is my Weber kettle where I cook a lot of fatty stuff at high heat so the bowl is pretty greasy after a season of grilling. That one needs a good paint scraper each season.

WOT? Da fuq you got 4 BBQs for?

[Hondaracer]

Flexing on us

[Badhobz]

He’s got a lot of corpses to bbq. Animal corpses

[supafamous]

WOT? Da fuq you got 4 BBQs for?

Much cheaper than owning 4 cars. I got:

Napoleon Rogue (gas) - the weekday daily driver, the CR-V of the collection
Weber Kettle - the versatile weekend sporty-ish car, the S5 Sportback
Camp Chef XXL Pro Vertical Smoker - this is RAM 1500 of the collection.
Kaginushi Konro Yakitori Grill - this is the Boxster Spyder.

The Konro is incredible - if you like grilled chicken wings then you will have the best wings ever on it. The chicken fat burns so clean off it. It is heaven.

The Camp Chef is new but it sure makes a great overnight brisket and it has room to make smoked meats for 30-40 people without much effort.

https://www.campchef.com/cc-vertical-pellet-grills-xxl-pro/xxl-pro-wifi-vertical-smoker/CC-PGSBXXL.html
https://knifewear.com/collections/konro-grills-accessories/products/konro-grill-54x23x20-4-8ppl

[sonick]

Lol anybody hear about the rumour of the parents orgy in the parkade of the Arbutus Club?

I have guys I used to play hockey with who used to be members as kids there says it legitimately happened

Made it into spitting chiclets

https://imgur.com/a/5aiVryP

Pt 2 https://imgur.com/a/8HCJGcM

Pt 3 https://imgur.com/a/9vwJS6i

https://twitter.com/JasJohalBC/status/1785833428308603293

[Vancouver240sx]

https://imgur.com/a/5aiVryP

yo... I need the full thing

Rich

[sonick]

yo... I need the full thing

Rich

Updated, didn't realize Imgur only limits to 1 min

[donk.]

News that must be shared with the car community:

Ive been parking my c7 in the same stall since ive owned it, to my left theres a nice bmw, met the guy several times, he also tracks it

To my right theres a black telsa, never met the owners once.

Anyways i roll into the parkade, and see tesla lights are on, two people inside

I park, get out, they get out. (My car was on fartcan exhaust mode at time of parking fyi)
me: "hi neighbors!"
Two women "oh hiiii"

Anyways we get our shit, were going up in the elevator, me: "seen your car for a year but ive never met you two"

Them "i know right, hey whats that cable that was behind your car?" (i had the battery on tender when i was away over winter
Me: oh i was charging it when i was away
Them: oh wow its electric?
Me: i, um, uh, wwwww yeah!
Them: what! But its so loud! Really!?
Me: yes yes! (My poker face at this time was 50% about to burst out laughing but holding it in)

They exit the elevator, i look at my gf, the doors close and i just start howling
Gf: your so stupid sometimes
Me: this is going on the car forums

[snowball]

So who we using for no questions asked bodywork painting these days? I got a lip to paint. AK still any good?

[Manic!]

...........

[Manic!]

...............

[GLOW]

me: "hi neighbors!"
Two women "oh hiiii"



as i was reading your story and making the mental picture in my head and got to this point of "hiiii" i pictured that scene with muffy & buffy saying "hi" from He Got Game :lol

[GLOW]

WOT? Da fuq you got 4 BBQs for?

i barely have space for a single little baby q let alone 4 diff grills

[supafamous]

i barely have space for a single little baby q let alone 4 diff grills

You just gotta skip the avocado toast and latte in the morning and you'll get there. j/k.

[68style]

i barely have space for a single little baby q let alone 4 diff grills

supa playing chess when y'all playing checkers

[mikemhg]

Bootstraps

[PeanutButter]

It would take you probably two hours to clean your bbq and you're going to get dirty. $400 seems crazy. I would think $125 would get the job done.

[Badhobz]

what are you guys a bunch of communists!? support the free market!!!! buy, throw, rinse and repeat!

[Manic!]

That arbutus club rumour just won't die. Now people are posting names of a couple of members who where expelled.

[Razor Ramon HG]

That arbutus club rumour just won't die. Now people are posting names of a couple of members who where expelled.

Source?

:ifyouknow:

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOjW_Q3gaeI

[tegra7]

Anyone here work as a translink operator? PM me I have some questions.

[CivicBlues]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOjW_Q3gaeI

Uhh, bro u ok?

[Manic!]

Uhh, bro u ok?

What you don't support local talent? At least one of them in the movie lives in van.

Also check the post above mine.

[CivicBlues]

Sorry I'm a bit slow. What does this off-brand Hallmark movie have to do with the Arbutus Club orgy?

[Manic!]

Sorry I'm a bit slow. What does this off-brand Hallmark movie have to do with the Arbutus Club orgy?

Rumour is the blond in the movie is/was a member of the Arbutus club. Another one is a botox doctor.

[MG1]

I wAnder when London Drugs will open again. Closed for six days or so. Victim of a cyber attack.

As soon as they open, I’m going to show support and shop there. Even if their prices are higher than other places. They’re locally owned and operated (HY Louie). Easiest place to shop. Price match policy is great. People working there are, for the most part, very nice.

They have some awesome deals there sometimes. Clearance and blow out sales. Last deal I took advantage of was an Audio Technica AT-VM95ML Cartridge for $100.00 off. Unheard of.

I wish them well and hope they make a speedy recovery.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/local-news/london-drugs-news-stores-closed-friday-vancouver-2024-8694090

[MG1]

Looks like some locations are open, according to their website. No official news yet. Maybe some RS members can confirm. We live here, it should be simple. The location nearest me is still closed (Brentwood).

[radeonboy]

^I don't usually have an affinity for retail stores but LD is one of my few exceptions. I love their unique assortment in their snack aisle and they've always made an effort to transfer cameras / TVs from other stores if the one I'm at is OOS.

Really sucks to see them suffer like this despite their cybersecurity negligence and I hope they'll financially recover from this. Ironwood was still closed yesterday from what I can tell.

[whitev70r]

Whoever hacker attacked LD should be hung ... big part of their business is medication. Hope people weren't up the creek for refills, meds, etc.

[MG1]

At Kent’s Kitchen ATM. London Drugs is, indeed, closed. Pharmacy and post office are open by the sounds of it, but need to call ahead or something. People have PO Boxes there. At least the locations I’ve been to, do.

Update: Confirmed. South doors are closed, but there is a worker at the north entrance letting people in for pharmacy and post office.

[MG1]

I love their unique assortment in their snack aisle and they've always made an effort to transfer cameras / TVs from other stores if the one I'm at is OOS.


This.

[mikemhg]

I never shop at Walmart, but I always will go to London Drugs, usually the Brentwood location.

As MG1 said, staff are always really nice, and historically, LD has paid their employees well.

I go out of my way to make sure I support such businesses. This whole hacking fiasco is going to really hurt them financially.

[Hondaracer]

This data breach must have been absolutely catastrophic for them to be shut an entire week. Even for a place like London drugs this is 10’s of millions lost.

Also a huge blow to the reputation as well. Can you really be sure your VERY sensitive information hasn’t been exposed if you’ve ever been a customer of their pharmacy?

I doubt this is along the lines of a simple data breach or ransom, this seems like it’s moreso entire data bases, customer info, etc. has been exposed if you’re closed this long

[68style]

It’s gotten almost no fanfare in the news but UHG in the USA is still under ransomeware for months now and it’s cost them almost $1B now… pretty much every person in the medical system in the USA has had their info exposed

[MG1]

I have this feeling the feds or whoever investigates cyber crime want this dealt with properly. Nail the Fokkers responsible for the crimes, caught and punished to the nth degree. I’m sure there are a lot of companies out there that have paid to keep it under wraps. It could be that this breach is somehow traceable.

Yeah, I’ve been watching too much TV, jbol.


Have to go back and see how the BC Biomedical breach was handled.

[winson604]

Looks like some locations are open, according to their website. No official news yet. Maybe some RS members can confirm. We live here, it should be simple. The location nearest me is still closed (Brentwood).

Can confirm walked by the downtown Granville st location and it was packed.

[MG1]

https://www.londondrugs.com/store-reopening-details.html


None near me, so far............

https://www.londondrugs.com/news-and-events/news-and-events.html

[MG1]

First thing I do is visit the snack aisle, lol. Tim Tams and other British made products. Also, vinyl for the collection. Maybe some specialty sodas.

[CivicBlues]

First thing I do is visit the snack aisle, lol. Tim Tams and other British made products. Also, vinyl for the collection. Maybe some specialty sodas.

Tim Tams are Australian!

[GS8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQk-7CqPxWs&ab_channel=yourmom

This is so funny and so stupid at the same time.

And I practiced the math when I figured that out!

[MG1]

Tim Tams are Australian!

Who gives a damn....... they're good.

[spoon.ek9]

Whoever hacker attacked LD should be hung ... big part of their business is medication. Hope people weren't up the creek for refills, meds, etc.

I'm told they shifted to writing down all inventory movement on paper while the system was down. My source being a pharmacist who still works casually for LD. It's going to be an absolute shit show once operations are back to normal because they will have to play catch up with all this extra paperwork. I hope the public can be understanding of the circumstances. Retail pharmacy is already a grueling hell hole, this certainly didn't help. I'm sure the staff are all working extra hard to try and serve their customers, they would greatly appreciate everyone's patience.

[CivicBlues]

Who gives a damn....... they're good.

Iono maybe 26 million people?

I developed a taste for them when I lived in Oz...they'd all call out your cunty ass if you called them British. :badpokerface: There is actually a similar British cookie called Penguin but I think they are inferior. https://www.smh.com.au/goodfood/eating-out/tim-tams-or-penguins-the-australia-versus-britain-sweet-treat-taste-test-20200622-h1owzt.html

Tim Tams are also like $2 a package there and have a multitude of flavours we don't get here like White Chocolate and Double Dipped. I can't take it upon myself to pay $5+ here for a plain old original

https://www.taste.com.au/food-news/every-tim-tam-flavour-ranked-australia/204w5t3o

[SkinnyPupp]

Tim Tams are great, try the Tim Tam Slam next time you get some: Bite a corner off each end, then use it as a straw to drink ice coffee from. The coffee will come up and get absorbed by the cookie, then you slam it down. The ultimate Aussie culinary experience

[Razor Ramon HG]

They were doing samples of Tim Tam earlier at Still Creek Costco. Maybe I should've tried it.

[StylinRed]

There were timtams with a cherry filling that I only saw in Oz, loved that one

[PeanutButter]

They were doing samples of Tim Tam earlier at Still Creek Costco. Maybe I should've tried it.

I stay clear of all samples at costco, people are vultures around those stations. Blocking aisles, no awareness. I wish they would get rid of the samples all together. But, It seems samples work so it serves its purpose.

[Hakkaboy]

Tim Tams are great, try the Tim Tam Slam next time you get some: Bite a corner off each end, then use it as a straw to drink ice coffee from. The coffee will come up and get absorbed by the cookie, then you slam it down. The ultimate Aussie culinary experience

This is the way

[GS8]

Tim Tams are the greatest thing I put in my mouth

...except my foot...








Want pics? :smug:

[punkwax]

I have never tried a Tim Tam. I am now inclined to do so.

[murd0c]

Tim Tam's are the fricken best!!

[Badhobz]

Your mom’s a Tim Tam !

[Traum]

I have a TimTam. It's the frickin best

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61OAVoz8qzL.jpg

[Badhobz]

you and your strange sex toys Traum... thats the biggest clit vibrator ive ever seen.

[roastpuff]

Boeing says workers skipped required tests on 787 but recorded work as completed (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/boeing-says-workers-skipped-required-tests-on-787-but-recorded-work-as-completed/)

FAA: Boeing apparently didn't confirm bonding "where the wings join the fuselage."

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating whether Boeing failed to complete required inspections on 787 Dreamliner planes and whether Boeing employees falsified aircraft records, the agency said this week. The investigation was launched after an employee reported the problem to Boeing management, and Boeing informed the FAA.

"The FAA has opened an investigation into Boeing after the company voluntarily informed us in April that it may not have completed required inspections to confirm adequate bonding and grounding where the wings join the fuselage on certain 787 Dreamliner airplanes," the FAA said in a statement provided to Ars today.

[donk.]

You should see what the workers do on their smoke breaks at avcorp, nothing new

[GLOW]

Can confirm walked by the downtown Granville st location and it was packed.

i thought they closed that location b/c of of high crime rate?

[underscore]

Boeing says workers skipped required tests on 787 but recorded work as completed (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/boeing-says-workers-skipped-required-tests-on-787-but-recorded-work-as-completed/)

FAA: Boeing apparently didn't confirm bonding "where the wings join the fuselage."

I'm not a plane doctor but I'm pretty sure that's important.

[MG1]

Fucking hell............ emergency alert test by the feds, this time. Chillin' and watching the Jays game. Jumped out of my couch from the loud alarm. Now the station is off line. That's my excitement for the day, jbol.

[PeanutButter]

The older I get, the more I realize that people don't give AF about their jobs. It's scary, especially in these highly sensitive industries where life and death are a thing. These are just regular people with very low motivation or integrity in very important positions.

[68style]

Nevermind the wings on the 787 are carbon fibre... that alone scares me quite a bit, I know it's widely used on things nowadays but not over and over and over in tensile strength type of conditions.

I certainly hope it's better shit than hockey sticks are made out of lolol

[bcrdukes]

Do you have fears of being on a plane which then suddenly nose dives and you crash, die, and never be heard from ever again? :)

[Hondaracer]

The older I get, the more I realize that people don't give AF about their jobs. It's scary, especially in these highly sensitive industries where life and death are a thing. These are just regular people with very low motivation or integrity in very important positions.

This Boeing BS is way more than just individuals not giving a shit, it’s a culture of failure.

There’s plenty of documentaries on them shifting HQ to Chicago, and the Dreamliner really being the catalyst for outsourcing components of their planes and then doing final assembly in Seattle, as opposed to building everything in house.

The Dreamliner has one of the best safety records of any plan in existence I believe, so I wouldn’t be too concerned, but as the culture of safety slips, who knows with newer models.

I just dumped all my Boeing stock the other day at a 60% loss (probably serves me right for buying the dip after the 2 Max 8’s crashed) however, I wasn’t exactly sold on the Max’s either when on a recent trip to Vegas the entire cabin power shut off while still taxing to the gate (on top of being delayed an hour in Vegas for computer problems ‘the computer not accepting data’)

[Traum]

The older I get, the more I realize that people don't give AF about their jobs. It's scary, especially in these highly sensitive industries where life and death are a thing. These are just regular people with very low motivation or integrity in very important positions.
The ones that actually give AF about their work would already have bubbled up the corporate ladder into a supervisory or managerial position, or they would have seeked out a greener pasture for their own good.

Generally, the ones that DGAF tend to remain in menial positions until they screw up bad enough to get themselves fired. But if the job is low risk, then it is more likely that they'll just leech off the system while doing the bare minimum amount of work to get by...

(Actually, that last bit kind of sounds like what I've been doing in the past few years LOL~)

[spoon.ek9]

This Boeing BS is way more than just individuals not giving a shit, it’s a culture of failure.

There’s plenty of documentaries on them shifting HQ to Chicago, and the Dreamliner really being the catalyst for outsourcing components of their planes and then doing final assembly in Seattle, as opposed to building everything in house.

The Dreamliner has one of the best safety records of any plan in existence I believe, so I wouldn’t be too concerned, but as the culture of safety slips, who knows with newer models.

I just dumped all my Boeing stock the other day at a 60% loss (probably serves me right for buying the dip after the 2 Max 8’s crashed) however, I wasn’t exactly sold on the Max’s either when on a recent trip to Vegas the entire cabin power shut off while still taxing to the gate (on top of being delayed an hour in Vegas for computer problems ‘the computer not accepting data’)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oCilY4szc

this was a pretty eye opening video

[Badhobz]

The older I get, the more I realize that people don't give AF about their jobs. It's scary, especially in these highly sensitive industries where life and death are a thing. These are just regular people with very low motivation or integrity in very important positions.

I keep failing upwards. I don’t know why… I don’t even try. Everyday I just zone out like office space movie.

[bcrdukes]

You are on the track to becoming CEO! :thumbs:

[EvoFire]

Thanks for talking some sense into me, LOL.

I'll just clean the damn thing myself. :)

Paying $400 to clean a bbq just seems insane.

I do an annual maintenance on my Napoleon, all it takes is a shop vac to get the crusty bits out of the fire box, some compressed air to blow out the burners, and wipe the exterior down with some degreaser/bbq cleaner. Takes me all of like an hour.

emailed the bbqboys, they had no time to do it until end of June. Said fuck it. Broke out the plastic scraper, the degreaser, power washer, steel wool, and a roll of paper towels and went to town.

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438229775_10159612971392032_1428580080635765033_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=aMAbgqYnGAUQ7kNvgGHgRgp&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=00_AfB_Wnm3pqiBsJl9Huo_eO0V5TmI1i2wsWaNuiDRcOzd wg&oe=6641CB06

It might actually be cleaner than when I got it on the outside. The inside are serviceable.

Now I need to clean the deck and furniture so I can chill outside.

[whitev70r]

^ you just saved $400!

[SSM_DC5]

When you hosting the next RS bbq meat? Put that $400 towards the meat.

[bcrdukes]

Stock and Noob meet coming soon at EvoFire’s house! Date TBA! :)

[PeanutButter]

emailed the bbqboys, they had no time to do it until end of June. Said fuck it. Broke out the plastic scraper, the degreaser, power washer, steel wool, and a roll of paper towels and went to town.

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438229775_10159612971392032_1428580080635765033_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=aMAbgqYnGAUQ7kNvgGHgRgp&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=00_AfB_Wnm3pqiBsJl9Huo_eO0V5TmI1i2wsWaNuiDRcOzd wg&oe=6641CB06

It might actually be cleaner than when I got it on the outside. The inside are serviceable.

Now I need to clean the deck and furniture so I can chill outside.

You know how I know you appreciate quality? Not only do you have a Weber Genesis BBQ, you have a freaking Trex deck... Low key flex right there.

[EvoFire]

You know how I know you appreciate quality? Not only do you have a Weber Genesis BBQ, you have a freaking Trex deck... Low key flex right there.

The Genesis was a floor model at Home Depot. I don't know how much they are supposed to go for, but I paid $700+tax for their last one. The list price was $1499 so I wasn't gonna say no when they offered it while I was actually shopping for the 2 burner.

The trex deck. I know I didn't want to deal with refinishing a wood deck every year or two years, nor do I like the wrapping paper type of deck ala old vancouver specials. Paid a bit more for the trex. I think the deck cost about 6k to build.

[Badhobz]

China menz approved for the savings.

[EvoFire]

I should send my son off to all y'all houses to clean BBQs for spending money when he's older lol

[Gumby]

I should send my son off to all y'all houses to clean BBQs for spending money when he's older lol
Given that bbqboys is booked out until late June, there's a market for bbq cleaning!

[68style]

That's crazy, I mean I don't enjoy cleaning my BBQ each spring or fall when I put it away, but it's not something I would ever think of paying someone more than my BBQ is worth to do for me lol

[underscore]

I clean the grilles every once in a while but that's about it. I use it year round though.

[Hondaracer]

That's crazy, I mean I don't enjoy cleaning my BBQ each spring or fall when I put it away, but it's not something I would ever think of paying someone more than my BBQ is worth to do for me lol

I’d be very curious what their clientele is like.

My old boss had like a $6000 Vermont castings bbq you could cook for a wedding on and even a guy with more money than he knew what to do with would never consider paying someone to clean his bbq lol

Wonder how many people are paying $300-400 for a cleaning on a bbq worth less than that lol

[murd0c]

I have the large Big Green Egg BBQ I got from my dad and he paid around $2500 for it It's expensive but by far the best bbq ever. Its one of those sit around all weekend bbqing and drinking. It's not the type of Q to use for making a quick meal

[freakshow]

I just had a kid (18-20yo ?) in Richmond clean my bbq for $95. seemed like a nice kid with hustle. i think he bussed to my place to do it too. He did a great job

[N.V.M.]

I just had a kid (18-20yo ?) in Richmond clean my bbq for $95. seemed like a nice kid with hustle. i think he bussed to my place to do it too. He did a great job


did he bring all of his own shit?

[freakshow]

did he bring all of his own shit?

yup. just used my hose

[bcrdukes]

yup. just used my hose

"If I could give this rating negative stars, I would" - N.V.M.

:troll: :ilied:

[radeonboy]

yup. just used my hose

Dou you have a before / after photo from using the BBQ cleaning service?

[PeanutButter]

^picture of your hose as well.

Thanks

[68style]

PeanutButter travels down some strange roads sometimes

[bcrdukes]

He needs to lay off the PeanutButter.

[GLOW]

^picture of your hose as well.

Thanks

https://media.tenor.com/xaDF1Hq7usgAAAAj/what-confused.gif

[whitev70r]

PeanutButter travels down some strange roads sometimes

Something repressed.

[donk.]

You guys arent rocking Grill Turismo©?

https://media-www.canadiantire.ca/product/seasonal-gardening/backyard-living/outdoor-cooking/0850044/masterchef-grand-turismo-2b-convertible-grill-1f8628fa-c42a-4ccb-8cc3-8d8b7b1780a0.png?imdensity=1&imwidth=1244&impolicy=mZoom

I dont know if you guys are true car guys....

[Badhobz]

wheres the titanium exhaust and Cold Air Intake!?

this is trash without ricer parts.

I demand a huge wing on the top of that grill immedately and it should be done in carbon fibre.

[SkinnyPupp]

There's a pretty intense magnetic storm happening RIGHT NOW, so the aurora extends all the way down into the US. Depending on surrounding light levels, you guys should be able to see it right now

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNRwdU9bIAAkD8W.jpg

Check it out!

Vancouver:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNRwfhRaIAAPF4m.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNRulmgW8AAiAuT.jpg

[Manic!]

I can see it from my back yard. It's amazing.

[Gumby]

Darn, some of my relatives saw it first hand, but i only caught it through their pictures...

[underscore]

I can faintly see it with my eyes, pictures look infinitely better though.

[Qmx323]

Coming through really well on iPhone 13 with 3 second exposure

[sonick]

I can faintly see it with my eyes, pictures look infinitely better though.

Fr you dont see shit with the naked eye it's all for the insta lol

[freakshow]

Dou you have a before / after photo from using the BBQ cleaning service?

What was even more filthy than the grills was below the burners.. and after i could actually see the metal, so i was pretty happy

https://imgur.com/a/BaIk8rR

^picture of your hose as well. That one is on my OF

[StylinRed]

I think all of vancouver is out at pitt Addington reserve trying to see the northern lights, one way road and 100,000 vars trying to leave

[PeanutButter]

The northern lights exposure is rated G5, which is the highest rating possible. It is an extreme weather event. It happens once ever 11 ish years.

Should be a good show tonight as well.

[Gumby]

What was even more filthy than the grills was below the burners.. and after i could actually see the metal, so i was pretty happy

https://imgur.com/a/BaIk8rR
Wow the kid did an amazing job!

[Gumby]

Just spent an hour cleaning my 10-yr old BBQ... used a plastic scraper & brush to clean the inside and dump the crap out through the drip pan, and wiped the exterior with stainless steel cleaner/polisher.

https://i.ibb.co/yNJtLZC/IMG-2732.jpg

Before:

It wasn't even that dirty to begin with... Good thing you guys talked me out of paying someone else to do it!
https://i.ibb.co/7CHR4Vs/IMG-2731.jpg

[SSM_DC5]

Is there an estimated time for tonight to see the aurora?

[donk.]

Everything you see online is not what you see in person

Time: probably around 11pm-2am, theres lots of websites showing info

You will see about 20%, of what people are posting online.
Unless you are half way up to whistler, and even then, i would guess its 50% tops

If your in the city, you will not see anything, bare minimum is spanish banks, iona jetty, nw marine drive, etc

And it will be a zoo of cars with heavy traffic

[Manic!]

Everything you see online is not what you see in person

Time: probably around 11pm-2am, theres lots of websites showing info

You will see about 20%, of what people are posting online.
Unless you are half way up to whistler, and even then, i would guess its 50% tops

If your in the city, you will not see anything, bare minimum is spanish banks, iona jetty, nw marine drive, etc

And it will be a zoo of cars with heavy traffic

Cellphone camera with a long exposure will show you way more than you can see with your eyes.

[underscore]

I'll post them later but even with my ancient S10 on night mode it picked up way more than my eyes could. To the naked eye it just looked like some faint dust or water vapour up there.

[Hondaracer]

So in other words, you’re not missing much. Lol

I went out at 1130 last night and I have a pretty clear view of grouse from out on the street and I couldn’t see shit

[StylinRed]

Took some random snaps with my camera and was surprised at the results I just can't get the photos off my camera into lightroom, dunno wth is wrong, usb cable isn't connecting, using an sdcard reader doesn't work either fuuuuuuuuuu

[SkinnyPupp]

Is there an estimated time for tonight to see the aurora?
Use this: https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/aurora-30-minute-forecast

Add 17 hours to convert from UTC to PST (so 4am UTC is 9pm)

Best chance to take some nice pics is probably right now

[GS8]

Today's weather :ahwow:

Today's traffic: DansGame

The girls in Vancouver: :sweetjesus:

The girls in Abbotsford: :heckno:

[N.V.M.]

does anybody know if your doctor can use anybody else other than Lifelabs? they are the McDonalds of medical services, holy fuck what a joke. i had 4 techs yesterday,one after another stabbing me looking for a vein. it was like strike out, next batter, strikeout again. the last one finally called their manager who easily found one, five stabs later!

[SSM_DC5]

Go to a different location next time. Finding your vein is a skill and each phlebotomist is at a different level.

[Badhobz]

does anybody know if your doctor can use anybody else other than Lifelabs? they are the McDonalds of medical services, holy fuck what a joke. i had 4 techs yesterday,one after another stabbing me looking for a vein. it was like strike out, next batter, strikeout again. the last one finally called their manager who easily found one, five stabs later!

meh its not so bad to be a human pincushion.

I go to the one near steveston and the ladies there are always first time jabbers. Never had a bad experience like that.

[supafamous]

does anybody know if your doctor can use anybody else other than Lifelabs? they are the McDonalds of medical services, holy fuck what a joke. i had 4 techs yesterday,one after another stabbing me looking for a vein. it was like strike out, next batter, strikeout again. the last one finally called their manager who easily found one, five stabs later!

I find location matters a lot with Lifelabs - the ones in nicer neighbourhoods have more experienced and friendlier staff. Eg. Don't go to the Chinatown one.

[MG1]

I get mine in the back of the hand. You have to specifically ask for it. It costs more, so they avoid using the butterfly or whatever they call the one they use for the hand (so I was told). Never failed me in decades. For me, it hurts a lot less. They're always surprised. I always tell them, "Is it in yet?" (joke goes over their head).

I used to donate blood on a regular basis. 40+ times. Then Covid hit and I never got back into it. Anyway, they were really good at finding veins in my arm. However, I had some not so good experiences. I have what they call rolly or rolling veins in my arm. There were a few frustrating times where I got sent home without any blood being drawn (three attempts rule). A couple of times they managed to get a very small amount out of me and that's a no go, too. One lady started moving the needle around to try and get it to flow better (ouch, ouch, ouch, and then ouch some more). Drinking plenty of water and avoiding caffeine (diet coke and coffee) helps a helluva lot. It really pumps up the veins.

[N.V.M.]

I get mine in the back of the hand. You have to specifically ask for it. It costs more, so they avoid using the butterfly or whatever they call the one they use for the hand (so I was told). Never failed me in decades. For me, it hurts a lot less. They're always surprised. I always tell them, "Is it in yet?" (joke goes over their head).

I used to donate blood on a regular basis. 40+ times. Then Covid hit and I never got back into it. Anyway, they were really good at finding veins in my arm. However, I had some not so good experiences. I have what they call rolly or rolling veins in my arm. There were a few frustrating times where I got sent home without any blood being drawn (three attempts rule). A couple of times they managed to get a very small amount out of me and that's a no go, too. One lady started moving the needle around to try and get it to flow better. Drinking plenty of water and avoiding caffeine (diet coke and coffee) helps a helluva lot.

I do get it in the hand. I learned that when I was in the hospital in 2020 for heart surgery. I specifically tell them don't bother with my arm, they'll never find a vein. they're obvious on my hand though, and I can't believe we let some newbie jab our bodies, and they're useless at what they are doing.

[Traum]

As everyone else have already mentioned, skill levels of the nurses can vary a bit. That said, I've been going to the one on Kingsway and Nelson the last few times I needed something, and they have generally been good (but still with some slight variations).

FWIW, we've taken our child back to Children's Hospital for bloodwork a few times instead of bringing her to LifeLabs. We didn't want to bother with the risks of the Lifelab nurses not being familiar with children, and the Children's staff has always been top notch.
does anybody know if your doctor can use anybody else other than Lifelabs? they are the McDonalds of medical services, holy fuck what a joke. i had 4 techs yesterday,one after another stabbing me looking for a vein. it was like strike out, next batter, strikeout again. the last one finally called their manager who easily found one, five stabs later!

[SSM_DC5]

As everyone else have already mentioned, skill levels of the nurses can vary a bit. That said, I've been going to the one on Kingsway and Nelson the last few times I needed something, and they have generally been good (but still with some slight variations).

FWIW, we've taken our child back to Children's Hospital for bloodwork a few times instead of bringing her to LifeLabs. We didn't want to bother with the risks of the Lifelab nurses not being familiar with children, and the Children's staff has always been top notch.

Their title is Lab Assistant and they don't need nurse training to do it. Pay is less, so I doubt a nurse would want to work for lifelabs.

https://jobs.lifelabs.com/job/Vancouver-Laboratory-Assistant-BC/1147384100/

[Hondaracer]

I’ve never really had too bad of an experience with life labs, get regular blood work every 8-12 months but the annoying part is if they are too rough with the needle, it can alter the results for your kidney function readings

So twice now I’ve had elevated kidney function readings where I’m like wtf.. is this number is correct it’s kinda serious.. then I go for a follow up and have to tell them to be better with the needle, and get accurate numbers that aren’t elevated. So a waste of time for all involved

[mikemhg]

That's interesting, I've always had good experiences at Lifelabs, I get my bloodwork done for Testosterone and Cholesterol/AC1 twice a year, I got big veins, so never have any issues.

The ladys are really nice too, talkative and such. I usually go to the Kensington location, there's a older Asian nurse that works there who's super talkative, she's pretty cute too for an older gal, you could tell she was hot as fuck back in the day.

[N.V.M.]

That's interesting, I've always had good experiences at Lifelabs, I get my bloodwork done for Testosterone and Cholesterol/AC1 twice a year, I got big veins, so never have any issues.

The ladys are really nice too, talkative and such. I usually go to the Kensington location, there's a older Asian nurse that works there who's super talkative, she's pretty cute too for an older gal, you could tell she was hot as fuck back in the day.

you would swear the girls who stabbed me worked at a Timmy's. not even exaggerating.

[MG1]

That's interesting, I've always had good experiences at Lifelabs, I get my bloodwork done for Testosterone and Cholesterol/AC1 twice a year, I got big veins, so never have any issues.

The ladys are really nice too, talkative and such. I usually go to the Kensington location, there's a older Asian nurse that works there who's super talkative, she's pretty cute too for an older gal, you could tell she was hot as fuck back in the day.

yup, she was a hottie ................ like you said, still is. Good eye.

I go for my A1C at Kensington Life Labs every three months.

On a side note, I get my vaccines and Vitamin B12 injections (monthly) at the Kensington Shoppers and the medical clinic next door. Not a single time have I had any issues (no pain, no blood). The one time I go to the medical clinic to get my B12, my family doctor who happens to practice there, noticed I made an on-line appointment with the first available doctor. I used to just go line up for walk-in, but they no longer do that. Longer story short, she cancels my appointment and books me in with her. I have never in my life been in so much pain. She might be a good doctor, but she sucks at giving shots. Might as well have broken the needle in my arm. Now she wants me to book monthly B12's with her. I think I'll go Shoppers for my B12. Only issue is, they won't give me a shot from a used vial. I have to purchase a new one every time. The medical clinic doesn't care. One vial has enough for ten doses. Oh well, it's only pain.

[donk.]

Badhobz just booked his appointment for Kensington Life Labs

[Badhobz]

Pssshh don’t talk to me while you stab me. I like to stare at the needle intensely

[PeanutButter]

Oh yeah, that nurse at Kensington is chicken ladies sister. She's a dime.

[mikemhg]

This place is too funny.

I never knew Kensington Lifelabs nurse had a following like this, figured it was only me thinking she's an old cutie this whole time :lol

[supafamous]

What days does she work? I'm gonna pencil my next blood test in with her.

[bcrdukes]

Group blood work day @ Kensington LifeLabs, anyone?

[Badhobz]

God bless America !
https://i.postimg.cc/jSzQYttd/IMG-8016.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/YSMNpZCN/IMG-8017.jpg

At what point do you just basically give it away for free ? The shipping cost alone can’t be worth this

P.s nobody make fun of my waist size. It was 42 now it’s 36.

[GLOW]

as a result of this thread i can imagine the urine samples there now

:jizz:

:ohgodwhy:

[PeanutButter]

Opening that cupboard and seeing those urine samples and placing yours next to them always weirded me out.

[donk.]

RS sample meet at Kensington Life labs?

[supafamous]

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/highlights/what-happened-to-the-entry-level-car-8738014

Five years ago, you could buy a brand new Chevrolet, Nissan or Mitsubishi for less than $11,000, a Hyundai or Kia for less than $15,000 and a Toyota or Honda for less than $16,000.

Those days are over. Now, Mitsubishi is the only carmaker left with a model starting at less than $20,000.

...

According to AutoTrader, the average new vehicle price in 2023 was $67,817, up more than 19 per cent from the year before.

Goddamn, average price is $68 (plus taxes). I can't even get over spending $70k after taxes for a daily right now and people are averaging $68k before taxes.

[whitev70r]

Lifelab class action settlement came out ... it turns out to be $7.86 per claimant :ahwow:

[68style]

Sweet I can tell people what I spent on my Supra was just average

[ImportPsycho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVktgD0Kbkg

Hear me out guys...
if they don't have DL, they can't drive, if they can't drive, they can't steal cars!!!!
Bam! IQ1000

https://media.tenor.com/dp_hQBGT0rIAAAAM/think-smart.gif

[whitev70r]

yup, that's the No. 1 thing that car thieves are worried about, license, good driving record, ability to get insurance.

[donk.]

The funny thing about that proposition, is that it probably cost tens of thousands of taxdollars, for a bunch of people to discuss a solution to car theft, and somehow "take away licence" was the outcome

Canada is the definition of soft

[Traum]

Short of locking up all the car thieves that are caught, what would be a practical and viable approach to reduce car theft?

On an individual level, I'm totally putting an AirTag in each and everyone of my cars. But at the gov policy and police enforcement level, I'm not sure what can be done to effectively and meaningfully reduce car theft. You can have the usual stuff like bait cars, increased priority on car theft crackdown, but the only somewhat meaningful change that I can think of is federal bail reform so that our judicial system is less of a revolving door. But if you were to do that, then we'd need to dramatically increase our dentention / correctional facilities' resources (which I am not necessarily against).

[underscore]

The only upside I can see is they can also be charged for driving without a license the second time around? How big of a fine is that in Ontario?

[winson604]

Feels like the same thing they do with gun control, excellent work again by the GOV!

[N.V.M.]

I knew it! they're hacks and losers.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53721624968_9af4d92ec5_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2pRcntf)Screenshot_20240514_120952_Reddit (https://flic.kr/p/2pRcntf) by N.V.M. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61891343@N05/), on Flickr

[mikemhg]

I got the email as well, $7.86 is hilarious.

I wonder how much those lawyers at KPMG got paid on this suit.

[PeanutButter]

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/highlights/what-happened-to-the-entry-level-car-8738014



Goddamn, average price is $68 (plus taxes). I can't even get over spending $70k after taxes for a daily right now and people are averaging $68k before taxes.

I can't believe the average price of a new car these days is $68k. What are people thinking? The biggest wealth killer for so many people is their damn car payment. That's over $1,000 a month and then you have to add insurance and gas on top of that. Absolute crazy.

[EvoFire]

I can't believe the average price of a new car these days is $68k. What are people thinking? The biggest wealth killer for so many people is their damn car payment. That's over $1,000 a month and then you have to add insurance and gas on top of that. Absolute crazy.

We are looking at used cars and it's more than 68k....

[donk.]

I can't believe the average price of a new car these days is $68k. What are people thinking? The biggest wealth killer for so many people is their damn car payment. That's over $1,000 a month and then you have to add insurance and gas on top of that. Absolute crazy.

People choose to be poor by driving a car they "cant" afford

[PeanutButter]

We are looking at used cars and it's more than 68k....

I feel like RS is more responsible with money though, so I would just assume you wouldn't be looking at a $68k car if you couldn't afford it.

But having the average price at $68k is wild.

Also, what car are you looking at?

[radeonboy]

From my understanding, very few people (customers and dealerships) wanted those cheaper new cars in the past.

For customers in that price bracket they either (using a Honda Fit as an example):
- went with a lightly used nicer car for the same price (i.e. purchased used Civic instead of a Fit)
- went with a reliable used nicer car for less money (i.e. purchased a lease-return Civic)
- went with a next-sized model and stretched the loan payment (i.e. financed a Civic instead for nicer amenities with a longer term)
- stretched the budget for a comparable SUV that's slightly more expensive (i.e. went for a HRV instead)
- leased instead of purchased to get a nicer vehicle (i.e. leased a HRV / Civic for not that much more per month)

I also believe dealerships / OEM played a role with this. Dealerships / sales:
- encouraged leases on a more expensive vehicle for a future sale and used vehicle supply (if the customer qualified)
- encouraged leases on a more expensive vehicle because there are better margins for both the store and the salesperson
- sold customers a used vehicle instead because the margins are higher vs. a new cheap car
- needed / wanted to increase the ratio of leases to sales to meet some OEM / auto group objective

I remember conversations with dealerships in the past where stuff like Yaris and Fit just sat and sat and sat without a buyer. Most people who went into the dealership looking for those cars ended up going one model up since it wasn't that much more when leased or financed.

[6793026]

^ that's why i'm in huge ass debt.. my wife is always.. for a bit more we can do this...

it was car
it was furniture
it was dine out
it was diamonds
it was apartment
it was netflix
it was cell phone...

and they are shocked when they get their monthly bill.....

[supafamous]

https://driving.ca/column/driving-by-numbers/canadas-best-selling-auto-brands-cars-pickups-and-suvs-in-2023

Top 3 selling "cars" in Canada are the full size pickups so I assume those are what drive the high average prices. Pretty easy to get into 6 figures with a pickup. The Ram 1500 Tungsten trim starts at $112k.

[BIC_BAWS]

I can't even get over spending $70k after taxes for a daily right now and people are averaging $68k before taxes.

Man I remember when I was growing up and 40K was what my family considered expensive for a vehicle. Honda Odyssey/Toyota Sienna was way far out of budget. I'm pretty sure the 2015 Honda Civic in my avatar was the most expensive vehicle they've every purchased, considering the other family vehicle was a 2002 Pontiac Montana base model, also purchased brand new.

[Hondaracer]

https://driving.ca/column/driving-by-numbers/canadas-best-selling-auto-brands-cars-pickups-and-suvs-in-2023

Top 3 selling "cars" in Canada are the full size pickups so I assume those are what drive the high average prices. Pretty easy to get into 6 figures with a pickup. The Ram 1500 Tungsten trim starts at $112k.

My dad bought his 2017 F150 XLT (highest level trim minus leather for an XLT) in 2018 for 41k (plus tax)

Brand new, 14 km on it.

[GLOW]

Short of locking up all the car thieves that are caught, what would be a practical and viable approach to reduce car theft?

On an individual level, I'm totally putting an AirTag in each and everyone of my cars. But at the gov policy and police enforcement level, I'm not sure what can be done to effectively and meaningfully reduce car theft. You can have the usual stuff like bait cars, increased priority on car theft crackdown, but the only somewhat meaningful change that I can think of is federal bail reform so that our judicial system is less of a revolving door. But if you were to do that, then we'd need to dramatically increase our dentention / correctional facilities' resources (which I am not necessarily against).

instead of an airtag in the car, maybe put the original air tag on the criminal, meaning throw an ankle bracelet for the period they propose instead of a DL ban that would do little...

at least you can track their whereabouts and if you see them out and about in a parking lot or in da streetz at night maybe escalate the punishment?

[Hondaracer]

Make sure you put the air tag in a spot that isn’t easily found.

I’ve been so tempted to get some bicycle and toss an air tag in the frame and just track it to see where it goes once it’s taken lol

People online also open them up and pull the speaker out because if they have a phone that senses the tracking, you can make it beep in order to find it. Can’t do it without a speaker

[Badhobz]

Ohhh that’s a brilliant idea for the car AirTag. I do have one in every car so it would make sense to take out the speaker.

[whitev70r]

instead of an airtag in the car, maybe put the original air tag on the criminal, meaning throw an ankle bracelet for the period they propose instead of a DL ban that would do little...

at least you can track their whereabouts and if you see them out and about in a parking lot or in da streetz at night maybe escalate the punishment?

Criminal ankle bracelet to track convicted auto thieves for 3-5 yrs.

[EvoFire]

I feel like RS is more responsible with money though, so I would just assume you wouldn't be looking at a $68k car if you couldn't afford it.

But having the average price at $68k is wild.

Also, what car are you looking at?

BMW X5 45e, 2021-2023.

[AstulzerRZD]

BMW X5 45e, 2021-2023.

Does incentive apply to used plug in?
5k incentive for new plug in should make a nice dent if BMW FS passes that on as a downpayment for the lessor.

[SSM_DC5]

instead of an airtag in the car, maybe put the original air tag on the criminal, meaning throw an ankle bracelet for the period they propose instead of a DL ban that would do little...

at least you can track their whereabouts and if you see them out and about in a parking lot or in da streetz at night maybe escalate the punishment?

Can't the government just turn on the 5G chip we got during the covid vaccine? :pokerface:

[EvoFire]

Does incentive apply to used plug in?
5k incentive for new plug in should make a nice dent if BMW FS passes that on as a downpayment for the lessor.

I don't think it applies to used cars, and the car falls outside of the rebate price range when new as well.

I am looking at it because of 5% tax only, and a brand new one is something like 120k out the door, so it's a pretty big saving.

My mom is of the mindset that you should buy new cars. I'm the only one in the family that has ever bought used cars, and 3 of them as well, this would be the 4th. She's asking me why I'm not buying new. I'm like.... I can almost squeeze in a whole Rav4 Hybrid in the price difference......

[radeonboy]

^Richmond Acura has a 2022 45e for $70k - it's got base-spec looks which I've grown to like. I think it's a decent deal.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/x5/richmond/british%20columbia/5_62341365_bs2004121512318/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&ursrc=boost&orup=1_2_2&pc=V6W%201K9&sprx=100
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/351115677981204/?mibextid=6ojiHh

[bcrdukes]

Completely off topic, and likely irrelevant to the general demographic (I have to ask) but has anyone in recent years gone through the process of a student loan? :pokerface:

[EvoFire]

^Richmond Acura has a 2022 45e for $70k - it's got base-spec looks which I've grown to like. I think it's a decent deal.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/x5/richmond/british%20columbia/5_62341365_bs2004121512318/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&ursrc=boost&orup=1_2_2&pc=V6W%201K9&sprx=100
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/351115677981204/?mibextid=6ojiHh

That sold yesterday when I was there trying to make a deal. The other guy saw there was competition and he decided to just take it while we were hammering out our trade in price for the X3

I don't mind the looks as I don't really care whether it's got the M sport appearance package, but it's only got the essential package and I really don't like Alpine White. I was going to suffer through it anyways but the competition is fierce lol

[68style]

Man the lower mainland is something else, people crying about the cost of everything and saying they're all broke and can't afford housing or rent... but practically fighting each other to drop $70k on a used SUV lol

[EvoFire]

Man the lower mainland is something else, people crying about the cost of everything and saying they're all broke and can't afford housing or rent... but practically fighting each other to drop $70k on a used SUV lol

The crazy thing is, the other guy was financing most of it on 9%. We were working on our trade and the sales actually assured me chances the other guy will walk because he came in with a Tesla and they are refusing Tesla trades. He wanted the car anyway so :badpokerface:

[GLOW]

why would they refuse tesla trades? they retain resale value do they not? or is it b/c the market is saturated with them?

[EvoFire]

why would they refuse tesla trades? they retain resale value do they not? or is it b/c the market is saturated with them?

Tesla used prices have been tanking for the last 18 months, there were too many speculators during covid who tried to make a buck and there's an over supply of them. A lot of the listed ones won't sell at the price they are listed. When was the last you time you heard some one say they were looking for a used Tesla? I think on here, only Hehe bought a used Model X, but the glut is with Model 3 and Model Y.

The other problem is Tesla new pricing has been consistently dropping, everytime Tesla cuts it's prices the used cars take a dump understandably. The dealers would be stuck with bagholding the car if they take it in and it doesn't sell quickly, which in the current market, it doesn't sell quickly.

While I thought they would just lowball the trade, straight up refusing it was slightly surprising. I talked to a few friends and they concurred that they are either a) not taking them in, you are on your own, or b) taking a 5 figure hit compared to list.

[GLOW]

sounds like time to keep an eye on used teslas :lol

[68style]

I think dark said even Hyundai doesn't take trades on Tesla??... lolol you know your brand is devalued when..................

[Hehe]

I think dark said even Hyundai doesn't take trades on Tesla??... lolol you know your brand is devalued when..................

I think the problem is that Tesla adjusts prices on the fly and there's too little prediction on how to value it as trade in. Say a new Y is 60k today, and a used one is 40k. Then the next morning new Y drops 3k, and where does the used one ends at?

Not to mention that the second hand market kinda relies on the lack of information to function, whereas Tesla pricing is available to everyone and it even makes news whenever it's dropping.

All used cars devalue like shit unless you are in some exclusive limited edition cars. It's just Tesla's prices are known and can easily be found. Others, unless you have an active access to dealers' bidding network, it's hard to know the pricing.

[68style]

That's a really long way of saying a brand is devalued.

[radeonboy]

Not to mention that the second hand market kinda relies on the lack of information to function, whereas Tesla pricing is available to everyone and it even makes news whenever it's dropping.

All used cars devalue like shit unless you are in some exclusive limited edition cars. It's just Tesla's prices are known and can easily be found. Others, unless you have an active access to dealers' bidding network, it's hard to know the pricing.

Customers have AutoTrader and FB Marketplace to gauge the asking prices for their vehicles - it's not like there aren't enough Camrys, F150s, and RAV4s on the market to gauge what the asking price should be on their own car.

Dealerships have additional tools that share retail and wholesale transactional prices along with market days supply for most mainstream models. This helps them determine what to safely offer a customer without getting burned.

I find dealerships usually have a harder time with limited edition / niche cars because there's not enough transactional data from their tools, so they end up lowballing just to be safe unless the used car manager knows what they're looking at.

I interpret dealerships refusing a Tesla trade as a sign that the pricing on them is volatile, the market days supply is unhealthy, and the opportunity cost is too high.

[68style]

Well add in the fact too that it's not uncommon for dealers to lowball trades... but to completely blackball an entire model or brand is something else entirely. There's a big difference between saying "Okay we don't really want this, they're hard to sell, but if you'll take X amount we will make it happen" and "Forget it we don't want it, sell it yourself"

[radeonboy]

That sold yesterday when I was there trying to make a deal. The other guy saw there was competition and he decided to just take it while we were hammering out our trade in price for the X3

I don't mind the looks as I don't really care whether it's got the M sport appearance package, but it's only got the essential package and I really don't like Alpine White. I was going to suffer through it anyways but the competition is fierce lol

I've been keeping tabs on these and anything reasonably-priced goes quick. A few weeks ago BJ had a loaded Davit Grey 45e with 45k odo for ~$65K? That car only lasted a few days if I remember correctly.

Well add in the fact too that it's not uncommon for dealers to lowball trades... but to completely blackball an entire model or brand is something else entirely. There's a big difference between saying "Okay we don't really want this, they're hard to sell, but if you'll take X amount we will make it happen" and "Forget it we don't want it, sell it yourself"

It's certainly unusual but there must be some sort of poor track record for the dealer to straight up refuse them. Maybe someone closer to the industry can share a bit more information.

[68style]

Yah I also suspect that, probably too many issues with how they're set up and passing on the ownership from a software perspective to the new owner I imagine is something most conventional dealers don't have much appetite for.

Just want to sell cars that don't ask questions lol

[noclue]

Are X5 Plug in hybrids decent in terms of reliability? I remember when they rolled out the activehybrid ones and they were big POS.

[supafamous]

Are X5 Plug in hybrids decent in terms of reliability? I remember when they rolled out the activehybrid ones and they were big POS.

Same question but for the X3 PHEV. Their pricing is surprisingly competitive. I'm not quite ready to buy so might wait till the next gen X3 PHEV comes out but it might be an option when they start clearing the current ones out.

[Hehe]

$400 to clean a BBQ is nuts.

I usually just focus on cleaning the grill rack part as it's actually where it matters. The rest is just vacuum and wipes.

I have an acquaintance who runs a service to restaurants to clean their pots, trays, grills... etc with a special machine to get rid of all the buildups and I usually just drop my grill racks off to him and for the price of a six-pack, they come back shiny the next day. It's incredible what his machine can do. I used to scrub the shit out for hours and my racks wouldn't come anywhere near what his machine can do.

If anyone is interested in cleaning theirs, drop me a PM. I can hook you up.

[radeonboy]

Are X5 Plug in hybrids decent in terms of reliability? I remember when they rolled out the activehybrid ones and they were big POS.

I haven't dug enough into the 45e, but some 50e owners are getting CEL on their 50e shortly after delivery on Bimmerpost:

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2025929

[EvoFire]

I've been keeping tabs on these and anything reasonably-priced goes quick. A few weeks ago BJ had a loaded Davit Grey 45e with 45k odo for ~$65K? That car only lasted a few days if I remember correctly.


I went to look at that, but I wasn't ready to buy yet as we hadn't done our math to see how much we can afford. I'm still beating myself over it as that car was loaded, correct spec, correct colour, correct year. The only thing I didn't like was black leather but that was minor.

We did our maths after that episode and we are waiting for the next unicorn to come up.

[EvoFire]

Same question but for the X3 PHEV. Their pricing is surprisingly competitive. I'm not quite ready to buy so might wait till the next gen X3 PHEV comes out but it might be an option when they start clearing the current ones out.

I haven't dug enough into the 45e, but some 50e owners are getting CEL on their 50e shortly after delivery on Bimmerpost:

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2025929

From the research I've done, the battery pack on the 45e has relatively little issues. The battery pack is actually 12 smaller individual packs and they can be changed out individually. It's not a 5 figure sum if one cell went bad.

It does seem like the BMW system has no alternator and the conventional battery is charged through the motor or a DC converter from the 400V hybrid pack.

The 50e has a new electrical portion of the system with a bigger battery and motor. Some ppl have dynoed it at around 500hp. Thing is kind of insane, but if it's having problems maybe it's not that great :badpokerface:

@supafamous Was it you that had a X3e in Australia? or did you have the iX3? The X3e loses a pretty significant amount of trunk space. I already think the gas X3 is a bit small with 2 kids.

[supafamous]

@supafamous Was it you that had a X3e in Australia? or did you have the iX3? The X3e loses a pretty significant amount of trunk space. I already think the gas X3 is a bit small with 2 kids.

Yeah, I had the iX3 when I was in Australia - really loved it though my wife thought the bucket seats were a bit constrictive. We're a one kid family so the X3 is mostly big enough (we still want the grandparents to also fit in the back but they're all smallish). The X3 PHEV loses some trunk room but I'm not sure if that's a deal breaker for us or not and the short EV range isn't really an issue either as most of our trips are under 15km.

That said, I'd gladly consider a longer range PHEV if it costs about the same and there's no trunk space penalty and the new X3 looks like it could be a winner.

[N.V.M.]

$400 to clean a BBQ is nuts.

I usually just focus on cleaning the grill rack part as it's actually where it matters. The rest is just vacuum and wipes.

I have an acquaintance who runs a service to restaurants to clean their pots, trays, grills... etc with a special machine to get rid of all the buildups and I usually just drop my grill racks off to him and for the price of a six-pack, they come back shiny the next day. It's incredible what his machine can do. I used to scrub the shit out for hours and my racks wouldn't come anywhere near what his machine can do.

If anyone is interested in cleaning theirs, drop me a PM. I can hook you up.

I just buy new racks. a pair for my Weber Q series from Amazon, $75.

[Hehe]

I just buy new racks. a pair for my Weber Q series from Amazon, $75.

Do you replace it every year? That's balling.

Mine is out of question... I think it was something like 180+tax to replace it. So, I think $20-40 per year (I usually do at the end of the season and once mid summer if we are doing a lot of BBQ) is pretty decent for the saving of all the elbow grease.

[sonick]

Cleaning the racks is the easiest part, just crank the grill on high and burn everything off then just scrape and brush it.

[supafamous]

Speaking of grates, I highly recommend Grill Grates (https://www.grillgrate.com) if you're replacing yours. Johnstone's in North Van carries them in store. Works exactly as described.

Review: https://www.seriouseats.com/grillgrate-upgrade-for-gas-grills

[winson604]

All this BBQ talk what do you guys use/recommend for a cleaning brush. I've always used the ones with the metal bristles but might finally make the switch over to another type but don't know how good they are.

[68style]

I tried an all wooden scraper and some super durable foamy thing, they kinda sucked, I went back to metal bristles hahaha

[Gumby]

Like Sonick says, after I'm done grilling, I set my BBQ to high so that everything gets burnt, then scrape/brush everything off.

I use this Weber grill brush:

https://www.weber.com/CA/en/accessories/grill-cleaning/grill-brush-6464/6464.html

And have not experienced any metal bristles coming loose...

I also use this:

https://www.grillfloss.com/

[underscore]

I know a few people who have had bristles end up in their food. I use one of those cedar plank things. It's not great at first but it wears/burns to the shape of your grill pretty quickly and then it works really well.

[Hondaracer]

lol those fucking wooden scrapers are the worstttttt!

I guess it would be ok if you gave a stainless grill with the little tiny bars, but for anything bigger I found those completely useless, never quite scrapes the top clean, never quite gets between the grills

[Great68]

I'm a pre-cooking burn off kind of guy, wastes less propane since you have to pre-geat up the grill anyways. I'll use the wooden scraper to get any large bits off, and then follow up with one of those scouring pad style BBQ scraper/scrubbers, then lastly give it a wipe with an oiled rag.

[EvoFire]

I'm using one from Superstore that has wood(?) bristles and a metal scraper. It works fine but if you like cleaning the grille hot then it becomes a wear item as the bristles will char. I go through about 1 every year or so.

With two young kids, and a lot of the families we invite over having under 5 year olds, metal brushes is just a risk I don't want to deal with.

[Great68]

I'm a pre-cooking burn off kind of guy, wastes less propane since you have to pre-heat up the grill anyways. I'll use the wooden scraper to get any large bits off, and then follow up with one of those scouring pad style BBQ scraper/scrubbers, then lastly give it a wipe with an oiled rag.

I should say that my grates are stainless, I wouldn't recommend my method to those with cast iron grates. Those should be cleaned and oiled directly after cooking or they'll rust

[68style]

I'm using one from Superstore that has wood(?) bristles and a metal scraper. It works fine but if you like cleaning the grille hot then it becomes a wear item as the bristles will char. I go through about 1 every year or so.

With two young kids, and a lot of the families we invite over having under 5 year olds, metal brushes is just a risk I don't want to deal with.

Jagged Krusty-O's haha

[Badhobz]

https://i.postimg.cc/PxSWcSxw/IMG-8107.jpg

Tacoma's a classy place.

[winson604]

Like Sonick says, after I'm done grilling, I set my BBQ to high so that everything gets burnt, then scrape/brush everything off.

I use this Weber grill brush:

https://www.weber.com/CA/en/accessories/grill-cleaning/grill-brush-6464/6464.html

And have not experienced any metal bristles coming loose...

I also use this:

https://www.grillfloss.com/

I use the 3 sides weber brush and have had no issues. I also burn the shit out of it after I grill and even again before I grill and everything comes off with minimal or no effort but I suppose in the back of my mind I'm always worried a bristle will come off. Looks like verdicts in though, fuck the alternative and stick to metal bristles lol

[PeanutButter]

Use a thick gauge metal brush used for industrial cleaning applications. That way if they fall off you'll see it and there's no way you'll eat it. I was so fed up with the non metal brushes I saw a guy on a forum recommend the thicker gauge metal brushes and its been great ever since.

All other brushes are garbage.

[mikemhg]

I'm sure westopher can agree being a kitchen guy. You should always run your burners at high not only before cooking, but post-cooking to clear all that crap on the grills/burners.

I'll usually run the grill high heat for 5 minutes (top down) after everything is cooked and off the grill to ensure it's totally clean.

[supafamous]

https://www.amazon.ca/FSDUALWIN-Rust-proof-High-nickel-Grates-（Please-FSDUALWIN-CA/dp/B073VHLQNW/ref=sr_1_27?crid=NRUD9QRNFENP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.B-lIqNlpWHkXaUtF441d-_-HX4_LowzBIz6MFDs2R3HA7TbFJC2UwIujII6oHNK-gMsO1-QbB1-_6IiC4Nf9D3nBwOj3iImyJ55JOzA2rer-bY9HAWWI3MYtarkKQVyKXglOeq76JltTuvVyTx5yTbKDqz4W5F TrjwuzS3_U4O5jmEfKnNONgUH07ggHdoso-ug4bY6ZRLVOHCyhzXcYi0z5ROpZRd1GEFI1kDI7DTAZbOtpNZA SNxXxtg6qlr12CsHRwd_FGOIo07dhPRDIOjby3tmdBv60sCjCA 5lwQPE.4Q8GIBL8uW380TlnjucVXklZP6hw-1zsbIiNKN7Ss0Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=grill%2Bbrushes&qid=1715896626&sprefix=grill%2Bbrushes%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-27&th=1

I use this style of coiled grill brush to avoid getting bristles in my food.

Reviews of brushes: https://www.seriouseats.com/best-grill-brushes-7495445

[Badhobz]

are we still talking about BBQ's?

Which one of ya'll got a smoker? ya'll wanna bring some smoked MEATS to our actual MEAT this coming MeAtY 31st at 7:30pm ?

[EvoFire]

Same question but for the X3 PHEV. Their pricing is surprisingly competitive. I'm not quite ready to buy so might wait till the next gen X3 PHEV comes out but it might be an option when they start clearing the current ones out.

Not sure if it's your jam, but just saw an ad for X3 30e, lease from 0.24%.

That's the rate we did our X3 balloon finance at back in 2019.

[sonick]

are we still talking about BBQ's?

Which one of ya'll got a smoker? ya'll wanna bring some smoked MEATS to our actual MEAT this coming MeAtY 31st at 7:30pm ?

Speaking of having a smoker, it would be so cool if i had the space, time, and skills to be able to build one:

https://youtu.be/5KyzNe_Yujk

[Hehe]

Too much char or whatever thing left behind with the high heat method.

Yes, you want some char on your meat to bring out the flavor. But that’s if the char comes from the meat itself and not some leftover scrap from before.

[supafamous]

Not sure if it's your jam, but just saw an ad for X3 30e, lease from 0.24%.

That's the rate we did our X3 balloon finance at back in 2019.

Might be an option. Was that with a specific dealer? I don't see it on the BMW.ca site. Thanks

[Great68]

Speaking of having a smoker, it would be so cool if i had the space, time, and skills to be able to build one:



Right now I just have a Kamodo (alongside my propane grill) which I use for smoking.

I dream of building or getting a nice offset, but there are two main issues with that:

1) I never need that much smoking capacity. I do a brisket or pork shoulder once a year maybe, otherwise at most I do like 2 racks of ribs.

2) Getting a supply of good hardwood needed for an offset is much more difficult out here.

[Great68]

Too much char or whatever thing left behind with the high heat method.

Yes, you want some char on your meat to bring out the flavor. But that’s if the char comes from the meat itself and not some leftover scrap from before.

What the hell are you even talking about?

[sonick]

Too much char or whatever thing left behind with the high heat method.

Yes, you want some char on your meat to bring out the flavor. But that’s if the char comes from the meat itself and not some leftover scrap from before.

:seriously:

You don't just crank it, throw your meat on a dirty grill, and leave it cranked.

You crank it on high, let the firebox preheat, then scrape down and clean the grill, then put your meat on and adjust the temperature based on the cooking method.

[Hehe]

:seriously:

You don't just crank it, throw your meat on a dirty grill, and leave it cranked.

You crank it on high, let the firebox preheat, then scrape down and clean the grill, then put your meat on and adjust the temperature based on the cooking method.

Exactly what I used to do, but too much leftover black carbonated particles. Unless you rinse the grate through, how do you get rid of those black particles after you scrape it?

I’d love to stop paying 20 bucks every year to get rid of them. But the solutions I followed on YouTube are no bueno.

I’m using charcoal/wood grill if that makes any difference.

[EvoFire]

Might be an option. Was that with a specific dealer? I don't see it on the BMW.ca site. Thanks

I think the ad was for the BMW store on Burrard, but it should be across the make. Stores don't make these decisions on their own.

[BIC_BAWS]

Not sure if it's your jam, but just saw an ad for X3 30e, lease from 0.24%.

Might be an option. Was that with a specific dealer? I don't see it on the BMW.ca site. Thanks

I think the ad was for the BMW store on Burrard, but it should be across the make. Stores don't make these decisions on their own.

My friend picked up a lease on a X3M Comp for $700/mo for 24 mo @ 0.01%. I think it was from BJ BMW.

Sales said that typically ///M cars don't get discounted lease/finance rates, but they decided to do a promo for April. I'm not sure if it's a dealership level thing or brand level thing.

[EvoFire]

That's a great deal wtf