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punkwax
01-08-2024, 08:29 PM
Tiger left Nike Golf and the new rumour makes Badhobz hard af.
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bcrdukes
01-08-2024, 10:34 PM
Thank x over 9000 :lol
Badhobz
01-09-2024, 05:17 AM
Good old tiger uppercut. He tiger kneed his way to the top, banged some hot blonde bimbo and now he’s Kirklanding it like bic bawsss
Total tiger destruction
68style
01-09-2024, 10:32 AM
LOL so we hired a student here at my office twice a week... it's his first actual job... to do menial stuff nobody want to do like data entry and obviously they're bored as shit I keep hearing him taking all these calls where it's like he's doing tech support? Not related to what we do in any way... so I go by his desk being nosy to see what's up and he's got his personal laptop here like a full out gaming laptop open playing LoL and watching strategy videos.
Anyway, I ask him what's up and he doesn't even react like "Oh no I'm busted" and slam his laptop shut or anything... just turns like it's all totally normal and is like "Hey not much" and I was like "Seems like a lot is going on" and gesture to his laptop and stuff and he's like "Oh yah you know just gaming and doing some other stuff to make money"
I was like... "Dude... I'm not gonna be the old guy who hammers on you and I certainly aint gonna say anything to management, but that's not really how ish works here" and he was like "What do you mean?" and I was like... "Well... most employers including the manager here... they aren't gonna be down with anyone playing games and especially at this place if you're working another job you gotta report it, part of the security clearance etc." and he was SO CONFUSED... like to him he is just like well why shouldn't I do whatever I want if there's nothing for me to do right this moment.
Hilarious. I love Gen Z kids.
Badhobz
01-09-2024, 10:45 AM
Fuck him up !!! Send him back to pottery class. Us old geezers are doing real work here (side window permanently on RS)
LOL so we hired a student here at my office twice a week... it's his first actual job... to do menial stuff nobody want to do like data entry and obviously they're bored as shit I keep hearing him taking all these calls where it's like he's doing tech support? Not related to what we do in any way... so I go by his desk being nosy to see what's up and he's got his personal laptop here like a full out gaming laptop open playing LoL and watching strategy videos.
Anyway, I ask him what's up and he doesn't even react like "Oh no I'm busted" and slam his laptop shut or anything... just turns like it's all totally normal and is like "Hey not much" and I was like "Seems like a lot is going on" and gesture to his laptop and stuff and he's like "Oh yah you know just gaming and doing some other stuff to make money"
I was like... "Dude... I'm not gonna be the old guy who hammers on you and I certainly aint gonna say anything to management, but that's not really how ish works here" and he was like "What do you mean?" and I was like... "Well... most employers including the manager here... they aren't gonna be down with anyone playing games and especially at this place if you're working another job you gotta report it, part of the security clearance etc." and he was SO CONFUSED... like to him he is just like well why shouldn't I do whatever I want if there's nothing for me to do right this moment.
Hilarious. I love Gen Z kids.
i'm picturing kid as ricky from trailer park boys telling you "it's no big deal" :lol :facepalm:
Gerbs
01-09-2024, 11:46 AM
to him he is just like well why shouldn't I do whatever I want if there's nothing for me to do right this moment.
Hilarious. I love Gen Z kids.
He has a point, but some kids aren't socially aware that you need to follow the corporate protocol to make it.
There's a shortage in people doing shitty jobs. We hire a few peeps to do packing and basic admin/emails and they usually leave netflix / podcasts on while they do their thing. Which imo doesn't really matter since the work is done anyways. Playing a full game of league is wild though.
Badhobz
01-09-2024, 11:49 AM
yeah cuz league sucks. heroes of the storm is a better moba FeelsBadMan
if he was playing HOTS he would have gotten a pass from me (id then challenge him to a duel!!!!)
Liquid_o2
01-09-2024, 11:52 AM
He has a point, but some kids aren't socially aware that you need to follow the corporate protocol to make it.
There's a shortage in people doing shitty jobs. We hire a few peeps to do packing and basic admin/emails and they usually leave netflix / podcasts on while they do their thing. Which imo doesn't really matter since the work is done anyways. Playing a full game of league is wild though.
We hired a junior and he was video game obsessed. He had twitch running on one screen while doing work on the other screen. I let it go for a bit, but finally had to approach him and told him it wasn't acceptable, especially since his work wasn't that great.
EvoFire
01-09-2024, 12:17 PM
I don't see a problem with netflix/podcasts as long as the work output is ok and they are getting their shit done. Now full on gaming is another story.
bcrdukes
01-09-2024, 12:45 PM
We had a guy who automated his work and as a result, he got bored. Fast forward a few months later, he ends up being a photographer and does all his editing at work and started showing people his new found hobby/work.
A month later, he was given a warning by HR and the management team telling him he can't do personal work on company time and on company resources. This lead to his dismissal. He still, to this day, does not understand what he did wrong.
Edit: Said guy was at least in his late 30s.
CivicBlues
01-09-2024, 12:55 PM
With WFH it's easier than ever to work 2, 3, even more jobs. Check out r/overemployed over on reddit. I have a feeling GenZ have no qualms about it at all they'll just take on as many jobs as they can no matter how much their quality of work suffers.
Heck I'd probably try it too if I didn't have so many meetings throughout the day/wasn't a lazy ass.
i wonder how that works on a resume applying for jobs:
Interviewer: it says here you had 3 full time jobs at the same time, how's that possible?
guy: b/c i was at 1 job and doing 2 other jobs on the side :pokerface:
CivicBlues
01-09-2024, 01:09 PM
Just put one job down, usually the more prestigious one. Or whichever will help with the new job you're gunning for.
Rarely do you take 2 jobs with exact same amount of responsibilities. It's usually your #1 job + your old job you can do on autopilot or a job that doesn't need as much face-to-face time.
Gerbs
01-09-2024, 01:16 PM
We hired a junior and he was video game obsessed. He had twitch running on one screen while doing work on the other screen. I let it go for a bit, but finally had to approach him and told him it wasn't acceptable, especially since his work wasn't that great.
If your work isn't great, then you're regarded for pulling that stuff.
But management also needs to know that when we're paying these folks $16 - 25/hour, it's hard for them to care. The best we can ask for is showing up and getting it done to an acceptable standard. The results of a wealthier nation.
We had a guy who automated his work and as a result, he got bored..
That automation probably saved the company $40-100K, but too bad most employers don't value that. They'd want the automation recipe + assign you more work with no bonus. You could try spinning it for a promo but hardly works in your favour.
With WFH it's easier than ever to work 2, 3, even more jobs. Check out r/overemployed over on reddit. I have a feeling GenZ have no qualms about it at all they'll just take on as many jobs as they can no matter how much their quality of work suffers.
Heck I'd probably try it too if I didn't have so many meetings throughout the day/wasn't a lazy ass.
This is probably the quickest way to wealth. I have a few friends who does it and I dabbled on the work + contract side of things. It's insane, even if your day job isn't the highest paying, the moment you link 2 jobs together, suddenly you're making $120 - 240K/year. In addition, you have the freedom to push for bigger promotions without the fear of getting let go. This usually requires a combined 30 - 60 hours of actual / billable work, so most people this becomes a 40 - 100hour job, since most people can't focus on strategic and complex problems for that long.
I've seen this scale into $300-500K saved in 4 years while most people in their 20's struggle to save $100K, while living at home till 30 for downpayment. 2nd job = all XEQT/VFV and chill. They left their job and yolo'd a franchise.
Badhobz
01-09-2024, 02:22 PM
multiple jobs!? awwww, that sounds like so much work. Especially since these modern-day fucktards can't even do 1 normal job to par, how can you let down 3-4 multiple employers?
68style
01-09-2024, 02:24 PM
multiple jobs!? awwww, that sounds like so much work. Especially since these modern-day fucktards can't even do 1 normal job to par, how can you let down 3-4 multiple employers?
Middle East dudes been doing this foreva... except with wives not jobs
CivicBlues
01-09-2024, 02:27 PM
When you half-ass one job, you can still quarter-ass two jobs.
Gerbs
01-09-2024, 02:32 PM
multiple jobs!? awwww, that sounds like so much work. Especially since these modern-day fucktards can't even do 1 normal job to par, how can you let down 3-4 multiple employers?
3-4 is not possible imo, 2 is manageable.
Unless you're 1 FT + 2 contract on your own time. Pretty much only works for SWE + some finance and accounting positions.
Can't do it if you're presenting and in meetings all day. Needs to be either grunt work or strategy/initiatives.
Badhobz
01-09-2024, 03:32 PM
thats really grinding hard and even at 200k a year you still wont be able to buy your average vancouver detached home unless you can magically save up 200-300k for the downpayment. Thats doing buddy guy shit like living with 10 other dudes, and eating absolute trash for 10 years while hoping the price of homes dont keep going up.
its hopeless for these kids. if i was 20 years old right id be playing league of legends at work too and fucking off because what's the point. Ill be tethered to mom and dad forever and ill never be able to afford jack shit.
EvoFire
01-09-2024, 06:00 PM
I had been thinking of the 2 job thing to make finances easier at home. At the end of the day it's too hard with two kids and still be a present dad so we'll just try to cut back on spending instead. I can potentially squeeze out another 80-100k but at the expense of my life expectancy.
underscore
01-09-2024, 07:18 PM
multiple jobs!? awwww, that sounds like so much work. Especially since these modern-day fucktards can't even do 1 normal job to par, how can you let down 3-4 multiple employers?
That's exactly how you do it. The older I get the more I realize that a lot of people aren't actually very good at their jobs. So if you are good at your job you can do the same amount of work as most other people in a lot less time. Figure out some shortcuts and automate a few things and now you're getting your job done in way less time than you're expected to take. Be smart about it and away you go. Especially if it's for one of those companies offering garbage pay for their experience requirements, they're not going to be attracting top talent.
At my last job I was able to find all kinds of ways to do some things in a fraction of the time it was taking my coworkers to do them. I made one spreadsheet that could automatically do something in 5 minutes that someone else was doing manually for 4 hours. My wife did the same at hers. If we really wanted to we could've gotten remote jobs for companies out east and juggled both no problem.
Euro7r
01-09-2024, 07:38 PM
thats really grinding hard and even at 200k a year you still wont be able to buy your average vancouver detached home unless you can magically save up 200-300k for the downpayment. Thats doing buddy guy shit like living with 10 other dudes, and eating absolute trash for 10 years while hoping the price of homes dont keep going up.
its hopeless for these kids. if i was 20 years old right id be playing league of legends at work too and fucking off because what's the point. Ill be tethered to mom and dad forever and ill never be able to afford jack shit.
That's the mentality these days of this young generation. "Well I don't make enough or can't afford anything anyways, why work hard". It's that mental behavior that fucks them over where they choose to do jack all.
Like to me, I'll think of other ways to get to that goal. Whether work 2 or 3 jobs, rob a fucking bank, find a loaded husband/wife or whatever. At least your thinking outside the box to become resourceful, rather that shitty mindset to not do anything.
Everyday I see the news people bitching about affordability, like do you think getting a few bucks pay increase going to make a difference LOL. A few weeks ago before Christmas I was at Safeway self check-out, and the self check out lady was bitching how she can't afford jack, and it would be nice if Safeway paid her $26/hour (she wasn't expecting to be paid $50/hr). In my mind, sure Safeway can pay you $26/hour, turns around jacks up all the consumer goods to compensate the increase in labour cost. In the end, your $26/hr now is still what it was before LOL. Then your going to want $30/hour, it's just endless cycle.
Badhobz
01-09-2024, 07:56 PM
Yes no easy answers for sure. The only thing I’ve done to contribute to society is to not create any more copies of me. One of me is enough burden to this planet and society.
Traum
01-09-2024, 08:44 PM
I had been thinking of the 2 job thing to make finances easier at home. At the end of the day it's too hard with two kids and still be a present dad so we'll just try to cut back on spending instead. I can potentially squeeze out another 80-100k but at the expense of my life expectancy.
Here in Canada, is there really that much point to take on additional jobs for an extra $80 - $100k? Unless it is some sort of cash gigs -- but what kind of legit cash gigs can pay you that much? -- you're splitting a good chunk of that with the provincial and federal governments -- above the $150k mark, I think the fed tax rate is 26 - 29%, and the BC rate is ~15%. So magically that extra $100k you get only becomes $55k.
For it to be worth your while, it's gotta be something where you can legally dodge the tax man's extortion.
Anyway, I ask him what's up and he doesn't even react like "Oh no I'm busted" and slam his laptop shut or anything... just turns like it's all totally normal and is like "Hey not much" and I was like "Seems like a lot is going on" and gesture to his laptop and stuff and he's like "Oh yah you know just gaming and doing some other stuff to make money"
I'm really rather amused by this because my manager catches me surfing the web and doing other non-work stuff online all the time -- including reading and posting stuff on RS, of course. My shameless old fart self doesn't even feel the tiniest amount of guilt LOL~ My manager also rarely gives me shxt for this sort of thing either because I've been working for her for a long time, and she knows that:
A) I won't abuse the system if stuff needs to get done, and
B) my old fart a$$ isn't gonna change my habits anyway
But the point is -- when stuff needs to get done, I better be on top of it, and she better not hear any complains from our clients.
donk.
01-09-2024, 09:08 PM
Here in Canada, is there really that much point to take on additional jobs for an extra $80 - $100k?
.........
. So magically that extra $100k you get only becomes $55k.
I would counter your opinion, 110% yes its worth it.
This is exactly why people cant afford the things they want.
Someone making 100k, (according to this forum) is broke because they have a mortgage, and 2 kids. Ex 0$ spending money left over.
Or those single friends making 100k, but dont have 10k in their bank account, no property, and no stocks.
If that same person worked A SINGLE YEAR like a slave, and made an extra 100k (55k net):
They would have:
- cheap family vacations paid for, for the next 5 years
-or a cheap 911
-or invest that 55k into stonks (sp500) and suddenly your 1 year of slavery will ballon to however much that is 10 years down the road, 130k? 25 years > 480k @ 9% average.
-or an investment condo
-or just alot more hooker, blow, chanel bags, and plastic surgery (poor long term life choices)
Sucking the company cock, when i was young, made me be able to do all the things i can do today.
Yeah my upper tax bracket was a joke and daddy government took 42% of it, but that 58% i had left over, was pure savings
Now im god dam lazy, and hardly work 40hr weeks. Only if i have a goal (another condo, c7, expensive vacation) i will take up weekends, night work, etc.
My buddy is 35, lived his entire life working 40hr weeks, spending all his cash, and does not have much to his name.
This year he took a step back, realized he is 10 years too late, and now started to suck the company cock working 60-80hr weeks, taking every job he can.
He wants to buy a property, and im cheering him on every time he texts me "just worked a double shift" or "cant come out tonight, night shift baby".
I want to see him succeed, not be homeless when he is 65 and cant work anymore, and most of all, have my friends around when im at that age (and still have money)
I worry for some of my friends that are nearing 30 or 40, and spend all their money on new condo leases to rent, 700$/mo car leases, and 30$ bowls of noodles.
BIC_BAWS
01-09-2024, 10:46 PM
We just hired a warehouse manager at work (which btw took a long ass time to fill the position). This is a day job, but is ironically his second job. We pay him $42K/yr iirc. He said that he's still young (just hit 30) and needs to grind it out.
Traum
01-10-2024, 12:33 AM
I would counter your opinion, 110% yes its worth it.
This is exactly why people cant afford the things they want.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on grinding it out hard when we were still young -- that (and living at my parents' place) was exactly how I was able to save up enough money to try a few hobbies and come up with that down payment on my first apartment. I was certainly nowhere close to pulling in even just $100k total, but back then, it was enough to get me started.
But now that I'm 40+ and have my own family, it is exactly as EvoFire was saying -- it really is too difficult to do, esp if you still want to be a present dad. I'd much rather spend the time with my kid because he won't stay young for long. And my 40+ yrs old stamina is nowhere close to my 30+ yrs old stamina, which is in turn nowhere close to my 20+ yrs old stamina. I am certainly much lazier now than I was even just 10 years ago, but not having the same level of energy and endurance -- both physically and mentally -- is also a major dis-incentive to take on that 2nd job.
donk.
01-10-2024, 01:15 AM
Is missing one year of your kids life gonna make a difference? Especially if they are under like 8 years old and they wownt remember any of it anyways?
One missed year of your kids life = college paid for 10 years later, or an all expenses paid trip to europe for graduating with high grades (with or without you), or a deposit on their first condo
I will never forget the fact that my dad gave me 20k towards my first condo, and my mom gave me 5 or 10k
If those numbers were 50k and 100k, because they decided to work a year instead of being around, i would be financially set up for the rest of my life
In regards to working when your 30 and 40 at same pace as 20, defs not possible unless your single and got nothing better going on
Each to their own, im just throwing out my own views on how something "so small' can make a massive difference for your / or someone elses future. There aint no wrong answers here if your satisfied with your life
EvoFire
01-10-2024, 02:07 AM
Here in Canada, is there really that much point to take on additional jobs for an extra $80 - $100k? Unless it is some sort of cash gigs -- but what kind of legit cash gigs can pay you that much? -- you're splitting a good chunk of that with the provincial and federal governments -- above the $150k mark, I think the fed tax rate is 26 - 29%, and the BC rate is ~15%. So magically that extra $100k you get only becomes $55k.
For it to be worth your while, it's gotta be something where you can legally dodge the tax man's extortion.
There is a point, a second job would probably be taken with contract and be billed with a company. Some one can correct me if I'm wrong, but I can leave the money in the company and not pay myself and therefore not incur the personal income tax. With that money I can invest and pay myself later on down the road if I want to retire early or not work as much.
The alternative of paying myself out everything would still leave me an extra $50k in my pocket. It would mean I can pay for an Asia trip, hit up track days, or even just invest it without hurting my everyday life.
Alas, the kids are a bit more important right now and it's not like I have time to hit up A27 quite just yet. I think in a few years and when the market is better this would be potential scenario.
I agree with donk as I had two jobs the first few years out of university. The benefits are immense.
- I make extra money
- Going to work meant not going out, which meant I actually spend less money
- I worked part time at a produce company and I could pick at the throw out or return piles and bring home enough veggies fruits to make an impact on my grocery bill.
All that meant I had enough money saved up for a ring, a trip to Europe, a trip to Asia, weather a layoff, and still saved enough for our wedding without incurring debt.
bcrdukes
01-10-2024, 05:02 AM
You forgot the blue BMW. :troll:
Hondaracer
01-10-2024, 06:05 AM
Work enough jobs so you don’t have time to do anything else.
Damn, Canada is well on its way to its Soviet era.
supafamous
01-10-2024, 06:25 AM
Is missing one year of your kids life gonna make a difference? Especially if they are under like 8 years old and they wownt remember any of it anyways?
I read this (https://levelupwithethanevans.substack.com/p/in-20-years-only-your-children-will) the other day and it really resonated with me particularly this line:
The “Magic Window of Childhood” is years 0-10 because you (the parent) are your child’s favorite person in the world. Don’t miss out. Be present.
The article is about co-workers but there are several points about parenthood and the whole thing is titled "In 20 years only your children will remember that you worked late."
My kid is almost 5 and over the past few years I've made the deliberate choice to pursue jobs that let me prioritise family life with the consequence of giving up a significant amount of income. Right now I get to work a 4 day week fully remote and I'm so much more present for my kid and my wife than before. All the parents I know express envy and jealousy at my 4 day week as I'm lucky enough that I can make that choice and take the financial hit cause most of us wouldn't want to miss any time with our kids.
OTOH, in my early career I worked my ass off even though I was on salary - it was common for me to work 60+ hours week but I was single.
68style
01-10-2024, 07:12 AM
I definitely remember as a kid that my dad travelled a lot and that he would be gone like half the year and it had an effect on me... I remember one year for father's day at school I refused to make him a card because he'd been gone for like 2 months and the teacher kept asking me why and I just kept saying I didn't want to but refused to tell them the reason and the teacher ended up reporting to the principal that I was perhaps suffering some sort of abuse at home and child services got involved and stuff lol
winson604
01-10-2024, 07:35 AM
I had been thinking of the 2 job thing to make finances easier at home. At the end of the day it's too hard with two kids and still be a present dad so we'll just try to cut back on spending instead. I can potentially squeeze out another 80-100k but at the expense of my life expectancy.
No joke the thought has crossed my mind quite a few times but the only time I have available which is my only current down time is between 11pm-3am. Mon - Fri I'm working followed by picking up kids, after school snack, getting dinner ready, clean up, homework if any, hang with kids, kids go to sleep. Weekends replace work with kids lessons and well just simply needing to watch them. After 10/11 is when I chill, go to the gym, watch some shows and stuff. What are realistic options though? Uber I guess? I don't know the options are probably few but honestly haven't looked, committing to an actual job other than something like Uber would be hard because while I've trained my body to sleep at 3am and wake up at 730am and operate normally there are days I'm just too tired and having to commit to an employer at those hours would be difficult.
i think its ok to work your ass off with two jobs as long as you're not severely burning out. being tired is ok but hating your life is not ok and never worth it. unfortunately these things go hand in hand. if you're working 16h a day there's almost no way you can be happy for long. when we're really busy at work sometimes i work about 10 hours a day and saturdays too so maybe up to 60 hours and already has a negative effect on me. i can't imagine 80 hours a week... insane.
whitev70r
01-10-2024, 08:08 AM
There will be another window in your life (for those who have kids) for you to work your ass off, once your youngest kid hits maybe 17, and goes to University/College level. When you reach that point, you will have a lot of spare time.
EvoFire
01-10-2024, 08:16 AM
Is missing one year of your kids life gonna make a difference? Especially if they are under like 8 years old and they wownt remember any of it anyways?
One missed year of your kids life = college paid for 10 years later, or an all expenses paid trip to europe for graduating with high grades (with or without you), or a deposit on their first condo
I will never forget the fact that my dad gave me 20k towards my first condo, and my mom gave me 5 or 10k
If those numbers were 50k and 100k, because they decided to work a year instead of being around, i would be financially set up for the rest of my life
In regards to working when your 30 and 40 at same pace as 20, defs not possible unless your single and got nothing better going on
Each to their own, im just throwing out my own views on how something "so small' can make a massive difference for your / or someone elses future. There aint no wrong answers here if your satisfied with your life
It is and it does make a huge difference. Lots of people here who have commented about wishing their parents were more present (but also the style parenting as well). You may not realize what you may have lost because you had the benefit of parents bring around? I can't tell because I don't know your history and how your relationship is like with your parents.
For me with my two kids I can definitely see a difference of my presence vs not.
CivicBlues
01-10-2024, 08:20 AM
I think a lot of you guys have this idea in your head that your 2nd job is one that you can only do after your regular 9 to 5. Uber driving, Service, manual labour jobs, etc.
With remote jobs now and "Overemployment" means you can do your 2nd job at THE SAME TIME as your 1st job. Yes two 9-5 jobs. or maybe one 6-2 and 9-5 overlapping. You can still have the same amount of free time to spend with your kids. That's the proposition for a lot of Gen Z Younger Millennials SWE types. THere's whole strategies around how you can attend 2 meetings at the same time, etc.
Badhobz
01-10-2024, 09:03 AM
I mean yeah you could but that’s taking away from all your spare time. I’d have to, god forbid, close my RS window and actually manage my time
Plus if any of the employers find out you have a side gig that’s a quick trip to the unemployment line
bcrdukes
01-10-2024, 09:08 AM
Unemployment? That's what the bank of mom and dad is for!
EvoFire
01-10-2024, 09:12 AM
I mean yeah you could but that’s taking away from all your spare time. I’d have to, god forbid, close my RS window and actually manage my time
Plus if any of the employers find out you have a side gig that’s a quick trip to the unemployment line
No, then you still have your second job.
And yes we are talking about managing two day jobs if you are full remote. If you need to go into the office it gets hard.
I missed my chance at the beginning of covid as everything kind of just died down for a bit.
It'll still bleed into the night time significantly though, you never get everything you need to get done during the day so the "grunt work" so to speak that doesn't require any collab will get pushed to after all the kids go to bed.
CivicBlues
01-10-2024, 09:13 AM
Lol Look I'm not speaking from 1st hand experience but I'm pretty sure it's not a theoretical thing. There's literally thousands of people who do it (I'm pretty sure I worked with guys who did it) and are trading stories on this subreddit. For me all this RS time I could be spending on a 2nd job but I love you guys too much and/or too lazy.
And if you lose one of your jobs, who cares! You'll have a 2nd one to fall back on. Then repeat the cycle finding a new 2nd job.
Traum
01-10-2024, 09:17 AM
Damn you are practically describing my daily life LOL~ Then again, I think most middle class working parents probably live like that too.
No joke the thought has crossed my mind quite a few times but the only time I have available which is my only current down time is between 11pm-3am. Mon - Fri I'm working followed by picking up kids, after school snack, getting dinner ready, clean up, homework if any, hang with kids, kids go to sleep. Weekends replace work with kids lessons and well just simply needing to watch them. After 10/11 is when I chill, go to the gym, watch some shows and stuff. What are realistic options though? Uber I guess? I don't know the options are probably few but honestly haven't looked, committing to an actual job other than something like Uber would be hard because while I've trained my body to sleep at 3am and wake up at 730am and operate normally there are days I'm just too tired and having to commit to an employer at those hours would be difficult.
When my family first immigrated to Canada, we did a version of the typical "astronaut family" thing -- my dad come here to set up and settle down first all on his own. Then 4 - 5 months later, the kids came to start school -- I started grade 6 in Canada -- but Mom continued to work in Hong Kong for another 2 years, only taking paid and unpaid vacation time to visit us.
Looking back at that time now as an adult, what my parents did was certainly the less risky, and more financially conservative move -- if our immigration plans were turning sour, we had a good fallback plan we can rely on. But from talking to my mom when I got a bit older, my mom told me she always felt guilty about missing some 20 months of our preteen / teenage lives. In particular, there was one time when she just arrived from Hong Kong, and was about to cook us a meal, but she had no idea where things are in the kitchen, and it made her feel like a failure as a mom.
It is also interesting that starting in my mid teens, my dad's working career began to pick up, and he started spending A LOT of time grinding at work. As I was already in my mid teens, I didn't really care for the most part, and not having him around actually afforded more freedom to do whatever I wanted to do. But his absence at home put a severe strain on the relationship between my parents to the point where they almost got divorced, and I certainly can't say that would be good.
Hondaracer
01-10-2024, 09:24 AM
What a depressing state of affairs for parents these days lol..
I worked so hard to provide a good life for my kids that they barely know/hate me!
Canadurrrr
Almost anyone I know who either A) grew up in a one parent household, or B) lived in those households where the parent was overseas working for the majority of the year almost all have a completely fucked up view on parenthood/parental relationships
supafamous
01-10-2024, 09:25 AM
It is and it does make a huge difference. Lots of people here who have commented about wishing their parents were more present (but also the style parenting as well). You may not realize what you may have lost because you had the benefit of parents bring around? I can't tell because I don't know your history and how your relationship is like with your parents.
For me with my two kids I can definitely see a difference of my presence vs not.
My parents worked a lot when I was a kid b/c we were working class folks but also b/c they had a couple businesses (a restaurant when I was around 3-4 years old and then a grocery store when I was around 10-12 years old) that they ran. Dad would do his day job as a trucker that ran from 4a-1p and then would go to the grocery store and work till dinner time while Mom ran the store from 7a till closing.
When they didn't have businesses my dad would pick up handyman jobs all the time and my mom would always pick up extra hours at work. There were no afterschool activities (other than Chinese school) that they took us too b/c we couldn't afford it and they were too busy to take us. I certainly didn't see them as much as my kid sees me - my kid rarely even sees me leave the house for work (like 1 out of 20 days?).
They kinda had to do it though - this is the immigrant story of sacrifice for the next generation right? I don't have to sacrifice as much b/c of their sacrifice (or our sacrifice).
CivicBlues
01-10-2024, 09:54 AM
What a depressing state of affairs for parents these days lol..
I worked so hard to provide a good life for my kids that they barely know/hate me!
Canadurrrr
Almost anyone I know who either A) grew up in a one parent household, or B) lived in those households where the parent was overseas working for the majority of the year almost all have a completely fucked up view on parenthood/parental relationships
I mean I don't know what point you're trying to make here other than TrUdOpe BaD again?. If these were the effects of your 30-something peers these days then it's something that's been occurring for the past 40 years. Hardly just a thing happening "these days"
Gerbs
01-10-2024, 10:06 AM
thats really grinding hard and even at 200k a year you still wont be able to buy your average vancouver detached home unless you can magically save up 200-300k for the downpayment. Thats doing buddy guy shit like living with 10 other dudes, and eating absolute trash for 10 years while hoping the price of homes dont keep going up.
its hopeless for these kids. if i was 20 years old right id be playing league of legends at work too and fucking off because what's the point. Ill be tethered to mom and dad forever and ill never be able to afford jack shit.
Welp most of us have been grinding for way less
Grinding 2 - 3 jobs for a 1BR condo in Coquitlam / Langley / Surrey :awwyeah:
That's the mentality these days of this young generation. "Well I don't make enough or can't afford anything anyways, why work hard". It's that mental behavior that fucks them over where they choose to do jack all.
Like to me, I'll think of other ways to get to that goal. Whether work 2 or 3 jobs, rob a fucking bank, find a loaded husband/wife or whatever. At least your thinking outside the box to become resourceful, rather that shitty mindset to not do anything.
Everyday I see the news people bitching about affordability, like do you think getting a few bucks pay increase going to make a difference LOL. A few weeks ago before Christmas I was at Safeway self check-out, and the self check out lady was bitching how she can't afford jack, and it would be nice if Safeway paid her $26/hour (she wasn't expecting to be paid $50/hr). In my mind, sure Safeway can pay you $26/hour, turns around jacks up all the consumer goods to compensate the increase in labour cost. In the end, your $26/hr now is still what it was before LOL. Then your going to want $30/hour, it's just endless cycle.
I agree with ya. The logical step is to figure out what we can do now that we can't afford anything. I realized nobody wants to hear work 2 - 3 jobs, work 9-9-6 until you have enough to make it. Or go back to school to join the booming industries. I think almost every other friend who's sibling is under 25 right now is a deadbeat in their own way, either no work, dead end job, or given up on life and playing league 12 hours a day. At least go pro in league!
EvoFire
01-10-2024, 10:07 AM
What a depressing state of affairs for parents these days lol..
I worked so hard to provide a good life for my kids that they barely know/hate me!
Canadurrrr
Almost anyone I know who either A) grew up in a one parent household, or B) lived in those households where the parent was overseas working for the majority of the year almost all have a completely fucked up view on parenthood/parental relationships
There's a different challenge everywhere you go and it evolves with every generation.
Lots of us here lived through the non-present parent situation and are trying hard to fix that for our kids, or decide to not have kids at all. Who knows what trauma we bring to our kids and they decide they need to fix it from the lessons learned there, that's how things evolve.
My parents worked a lot when I was a kid b/c we were working class folks but also b/c they had a couple businesses (a restaurant when I was around 3-4 years old and then a grocery store when I was around 10-12 years old) that they ran. Dad would do his day job as a trucker that ran from 4a-1p and then would go to the grocery store and work till dinner time while Mom ran the store from 7a till closing.
When they didn't have businesses my dad would pick up handyman jobs all the time and my mom would always pick up extra hours at work. There were no afterschool activities (other than Chinese school) that they took us too b/c we couldn't afford it and they were too busy to take us. I certainly didn't see them as much as my kid sees me - my kid rarely even sees me leave the house for work (like 1 out of 20 days?).
They kinda had to do it though - this is the immigrant story of sacrifice for the next generation right? I don't have to sacrifice as much b/c of their sacrifice (or our sacrifice).
That's basically most of us immigrant kids or 1st generation CBC. My parents worked in restaurants and were still asleep when I went to school and came home after I was supposed to go to bed. Their dayoffs were during the week which meant it never lines up with school unless I am on a school break.
Gerbs
01-10-2024, 10:13 AM
Now im god dam lazy, and hardly work 40hr weeks. Only if i have a goal (another condo, c7, expensive vacation) i will take up weekends, night work, etc.
My mans is LIVING THE DREAM, I find when you finally reach your goals of housing, cars, money for travel and hobbies. There's 0 desire to work for more. Maybe when I have kids and need extra cash I'd be motivated to go find that extra $30-100K+.
We just hired a warehouse manager at work (which btw took a long ass time to fill the position). This is a day job, but is ironically his second job. We pay him $42K/yr iirc. He said that he's still young (just hit 30) and needs to grind it out.
Man there's almost no upwards trajectory in warehouse management. But at the same time you don't wanna offer more than $20-21/hour. His whole life will be a grind.
Hondaracer
01-10-2024, 10:26 AM
I mean I don't know what point you're trying to make here other than TrUdOpe BaD again?. If these were the effects of your 30-something peers these days then it's something that's been occurring for the past 40 years. Hardly just a thing happening "these days"
This seems to be a very Canada thing.
I know people in the states, the UK, and Croatia who don’t even know the term “work life balance” because none of them live this non-stop grind to keep your head above water. People just live, they aren’t debating whether they should work a second job and how much they see their kids lol.
All of them are professionals in their careers, but nothing crazy, not business owners, etc. and they all take vacations with their families, are home at night, etc.
The quality of life here is non-existent for a lot of people.
If I wasn’t in the position I am, I certainly would not be in the lower mainland just grinding to try and make it work. What a shit life that would be.
xxxrsxxx
01-10-2024, 10:32 AM
There will be another window in your life (for those who have kids) for you to work your ass off, once your youngest kid hits maybe 17, and goes to University/College level. When you reach that point, you will have a lot of spare time.
I'll be in my 60's when my kid turns 17 :heckno:
Badhobz
01-10-2024, 10:33 AM
gross. you started too late.
if i told my wife to shit one out right now, that piece of shit would be 20 and ill be 60.
COOL GRANDPA!, no man thats my dad....
What a nightmare
ill be already in my cocaine hooker days and that piece of shit will still be living in the household, barely finding a job, and probably causing all kinds of horseshit problems for me and the old lady. If its a daughter, she'll be the most spoiled cunt on the face of the earth then she'll bring in some neck tattoo motherfucker all the while i blow coke up a hookers ass
Gerbs
01-10-2024, 10:59 AM
On another topic, what's the optimal age for marriage and/or kids for you guys?
Seems like nowadays, that number depends on your financials, aka your own place, car, savings, and then guys start to think about kids.
The math on having kids by 25 - 33 seems nice though, they'll be 20 by the time you're 45 - 53.
EvoFire
01-10-2024, 10:59 AM
This seems to be a very Canada thing.
I know people in the states, the UK, and Croatia who don’t even know the term “work life balance” because none of them live this non-stop grind to keep your head above water. People just live, they aren’t debating whether they should work a second job and how much they see their kids lol.
All of them are professionals in their careers, but nothing crazy, not business owners, etc. and they all take vacations with their families, are home at night, etc.
The quality of life here is non-existent for a lot of people.
If I wasn’t in the position I am, I certainly would not be in the lower mainland just grinding to try and make it work. What a shit life that would be.
I'd argue my work life balance is a lot better than the last generation. We were just chatting with an old lady at a restaurant because we were hauling our 1 yr old around with us to go out for lunch (WFH perks). She was interested in our case cause my wife is on an extended mat leave.
She said she worked at the bank when she had kids, she would request to take half a day off to go to her kids recital and would be denied. It's not just immigrants who had to grind but white people too.
Work life balance has come a long way in the last 20-30 years. We bitch about it because Vancouver has retarded living costs, but if you can stomach living in Calgary, the housing prices are easily 1/2 to 1/3 and you won't really hear about this two job BS as much.
If anything the States is much much worse. We have a friend who works for Microsoft who had 100% paid two months off after giving birth. And that's supposed to be generous, most people are back at work a week after giving birth. I asked them about their costs, they said out of pocket it was a few hundred, but the bill was around 20k USD. That's because they had zero complications and everything went smoothly and they were out of the hospital quickly. Everything sounds like a shit show if you don't have coverage.
68style
01-10-2024, 11:09 AM
Hold on... the USA???
The USA is almost third world bad for workers rights... 1 week for maternity leave? If you're lucky? No holiday time. I don't know what people you're friends with in the USA but that place is a fucking nightmare to work in, especially if you're in Finance or Tech holy shit... like zero rights and piss poor benefits.
They literally finish at the bottom of any survey for any first world nation on work/life balance.
noclue
01-10-2024, 11:17 AM
I'd argue my work life balance is a lot better than the last generation. We were just chatting with an old lady at a restaurant because we were hauling our 1 yr old around with us to go out for lunch (WFH perks). She was interested in our case cause my wife is on an extended mat leave.
She said she worked at the bank when she had kids, she would request to take half a day off to go to her kids recital and would be denied. It's not just immigrants who had to grind but white people too.
Work life balance has come a long way in the last 20-30 years. We bitch about it because Vancouver has retarded living costs, but if you can stomach living in Calgary, the housing prices are easily 1/2 to 1/3 and you won't really hear about this two job BS as much.
If anything the States is much much worse. We have a friend who works for Microsoft who had 100% paid two months off after giving birth. And that's supposed to be generous, most people are back at work a week after giving birth. I asked them about their costs, they said out of pocket it was a few hundred, but the bill was around 20k USD. That's because they had zero complications and everything went smoothly and they were out of the hospital quickly. Everything sounds like a shit show if you don't have coverage.
Big tech in the USA have gold plated medical insurance plans I'll take anyday over Canada's free healthcare.
68style
01-10-2024, 11:19 AM
You'll need it after you do 10 consecutive 80 hour work weeks
EvoFire
01-10-2024, 11:23 AM
On another topic, what's the optimal age for marriage and/or kids for you guys?
Seems like nowadays, that number depends on your financials, aka your own place, car, savings, and then guys start to think about kids.
The math on having kids by 25 - 33 seems nice though, they'll be 20 by the time you're 45 - 53.
Marriage is a wash, some people don't believe in it and if you boil it down the absolute basics at the end of the day it's just a piece of paper, a 5 figure dinner party, and an excuse to party. Legally being married is almost no difference from being common-law nowadays
For having kids, it's work/family life balance in play. We had our first kid at 32, but we've done a bit of traveling already and seen a bunch of places, and really kicked the one thing off my bucket list by doing a Euro Delivery.
Were we finished traveling? No, not at all, but also we didn't want to have our first kid after 35. We didn't know if we would have a hard time conceiving and wanted to give ourselves some time before our own cut off.
Well life happens, we got pregnant on the first try. We had a miscarriage but was again successful right after that.
We are actually the first couple in my friend groups to have a kid, wife's friend group has a few already but we were still in the top 3. In terms of optimal age I'd think I'd prefer to have had the kids a little earlier, but then I wasn't ready. I still wasn't ready but the balance made more sense at 32 vs 30.
We talk about how our parents are with the grandkids, and how we would be like if our kids ever decide to have kids. My dad is 70 and I'd say borderline physically being able to deal with the kids. (Mindset is another story as my dad is useless with kids and also stated he's not interested in being a babysitter). If our kids have kids around our age, we'd be around 65-70 which is the golden age to have grandkids. You are just retired (given you can financially retire at 65) but yet still physically capable enough to deal. Any younger you'll still be working, too much older you may be too slow and frail to chase after the brats when they get older and you are inching towards 80.
@xxxrsxxx how is it to have kids in your 40's? My uncle had his first kid at 43 and he said he can't keep up. He's a cop too so he's physically more fit than others. My youngest cousins are closer in age to my kids than they are to me.
whitev70r
01-10-2024, 11:29 AM
I'll be in my 60's when my kid turns 17 :heckno:
Therein lies your mistake.
I would think 30-35 is prime to have kids. let's say you have your last one at 35, you'd stop taking them to lessons and driving them around by like 50'ish. Freedom!
CivicBlues
01-10-2024, 11:43 AM
This seems to be a very Canada thing.
I know people in the states, the UK, and Croatia who don’t even know the term “work life balance” because none of them live this non-stop grind to keep your head above water. People just live, they aren’t debating whether they should work a second job and how much they see their kids lol.
All of them are professionals in their careers, but nothing crazy, not business owners, etc. and they all take vacations with their families, are home at night, etc.
The quality of life here is non-existent for a lot of people.
If I wasn’t in the position I am, I certainly would not be in the lower mainland just grinding to try and make it work. What a shit life that would be.
Sounds like selection bias to me. YOu're not likely to know Joe-six pack from Tulsa or Johnny Bean from Turdchester who are working 3 jobs to make ends meet and posting their shit on r/antiwork during their free time. You're going to meet people who have leisure time either to travel abroad or to visit you in Canada. Whereas we both will be exposed to a multitude more people from different socio-economic stratas by virtue of living here.
Also I'm not close with anyone that works 2 jobs or more. I mean they might but they don't make it obvious. I really just brought up this overemployment thing as something that was trending online and I suspected some of my younger coworkers were doing it cause they were generally non-responsive. I can't say 100% for sure. Everyone I know well is generally home at night, takes vacations, eats out, etc. The only people I see really hustling are recent immigrants, TFW and Int'l students. And I guarantee you the vast majority of "Overemployed" on r/overemployed working 2 jobs are Americans tryin' to hustle.
mikemhg
01-10-2024, 12:44 PM
If you work in tech, it's pretty easy to bullshit multiple jobs.
I have a few buds that mostly do Python related project work and builds, they're technically a FT employee for multiple companies, without any of these companies knowing so.
As a result they're pretty much working 2-3 FT gigs, but definitely not putting in 100 hour weeks or anything.
The amount of money they're making is frigging insane.
I thought about doing something similar myself, but I'm too damn lazy.
supafamous
01-10-2024, 01:02 PM
Big tech in the USA have gold plated medical insurance plans I'll take anyday over Canada's free healthcare.
Yeah, for the privileged few the American health care systems beats the free one we have but I'll take the free one over the my whole lifetime over the short period of time I work for a top employer who can afford to spring for gold plated healthcare - care that would have locked me into a job.
America is kinda a shit hole country - their life expectancy sucks, their infant mortality rates are of a third world country, poverty rates are ridiculous, and most of their metrics around quality of life are terrible compared to other "first" world countries. If you're privileged enough you can live away from a lot of that but most people can't.
I haven't done a lot of travel into third world countries but I did visit the Chinese countryside (outside of Shanghai) about 20 years ago and it was nicer than many parts of the US - I've never seen a bigger shit hole city than New Orleans in my life and it's not like New Orleans is the worst they have to offer.
CivicBlues
01-10-2024, 01:07 PM
If you work in tech, it's pretty easy to bullshit multiple jobs.
I have a few buds that mostly do Python related project work and builds, they're technically a FT employee for multiple companies, without any of these companies knowing so.
As a result they're pretty much working 2-3 FT gigs, but definitely not putting in 100 hour weeks or anything.
The amount of money they're making is frigging insane.
I thought about doing something similar myself, but I'm too damn lazy.
It's not just laziness either. I'm somewhat of an anxious person and the thought of being duplicitous for 8 hours a day/5 days a week on top of putting on my "corporate face" is what exhausts me the most thinking about it.
supafamous
01-10-2024, 01:07 PM
I'll be in my 60's when my kid turns 17 :heckno:
I turn 48 in a couple weeks and my kid is about to turn 5 in April. I expect that she'll just be hitting high school by the time I retire in 7-8 years.
It wasn't ideal to start a family that late but it beats no family. Ideally I'd tell people to do it in their early-mid 30s - hopefully by then you have an established career that provides a steady income and you can afford to pause your career ambitions a bit while at the same time you have the energy to chase kids around or work late at night.
I have a friend the same age as me who is about to send his 2nd kid off to university this September and he'll be an empty nester - I'm jealous of that but I can't imagine how difficult it was for him in his mid-20s trying to manage 2 kids while both sets of grandparents lived in different cities.
mikemhg
01-10-2024, 01:08 PM
Yeah, for the privileged few the American health care systems beats the free one we have but I'll take the free one over the my whole lifetime over the short period of time I work for a top employer who can afford to spring for gold plated healthcare - care that would have locked me into a job.
America is kinda a shit hole country - their life expectancy sucks, their infant mortality rates are of a third world country, poverty rates are ridiculous, and most of their metrics around quality of life are terrible compared to other "first" world countries. If you're privileged enough you can live away from a lot of that but most people can't.
I haven't done a lot of travel into third world countries but I did visit the Chinese countryside (outside of Shanghai) about 20 years ago and it was nicer than many parts of the US - I've never seen a bigger shit hole city than New Orleans in my life and it's not like New Orleans is the worst they have to offer.
One should also look at the co-pays for many of these "gold-plated" benefit plans.
It's not unheard of to have a $3K-$5K annual deductible amount until your coverage truly "kicks" in. I've seen some as high as $10K.
supafamous
01-10-2024, 01:08 PM
It's not just laziness as well. I'm somewhat of an anxious person and the thought of being duplicitous for 8 hours a day/5 days a week on top of putting on my "corporate face" is what exhausts me the most thinking about it.
My wife has asked me, "Would you ever cheat on me?" and my response is that I can barely deal with her so where would I find the time and energy to deal with another woman?
I feel the same way about a 2nd job whether I do it at the same time or after my first job.
mikemhg
01-10-2024, 01:13 PM
My wife has asked me, "Would you ever cheat on me?" and my response is that I can barely deal with her so where would I find the time and energy to deal with another woman?
I feel the same way about a 2nd job whether I do it at the same time or after my first job.
That's when you know you're getting old. Don't have the dick energy to satisfy that many women at once. Hard to be juggling women when you become a one-pump chump.
Leave that shit for the youngins :lol
Gerbs
01-10-2024, 02:04 PM
Legally being married is almost no difference from being common-law nowadays
Thought the difference in BC is that marriage = split of assets after a certain amount of years without prenup.
Whereas common-law, you keep all pre-existing assets pre common-law and split the gains post common law.
But have a kid together and you're pretty much married.
That's when you know you're getting old. Don't have the dick energy to satisfy that many women at once. Hard to be juggling women when you become a one-pump chump.
Leave that shit for the youngins :lol
When do ya lose the dick energy :lawl:
donk.
01-10-2024, 06:50 PM
I'll be in my 60's when my kid turns 17 :heckno:
When i was in middle school everyones parents were like 35-40, i had one friend and his parents were straight up 60 just like you said hahahhahah
I remember him always saying, "my parents are old as fuck, they eat at 6pm and sleep by 9" or something along those lines hahahah. We always found it weird that his parents were pretty much "grandparents"
Dont let my comments insult/discourage you, nothing wrong with the above
Badhobz
01-10-2024, 07:00 PM
I’m pretty sure my boys are dead. Thank god
https://i.imgur.com/kQVoZ.gif
6793026
01-11-2024, 06:03 AM
we are late. we are trying to have kids in our 40s and it's just tough.
IVF is very common among freinds and its an emotional toll. We'll see how wife deals with lack of sleep if we are ever blessed with a kid.
we all play the the same deck of cards and hours in a day. It's the attitude that guides everything.
68style
01-11-2024, 08:14 AM
I'm immature as fuck and have a child's mind! I'm totally ready with that mindset for a 40+ baby!
(Not mocking you, I'm serious)
Hondaracer
01-11-2024, 08:24 AM
All the power to people having kids later in life but for me, like legit it would be a fucking nightmare and I’d probably fall into a deep depression if it happened to me lol
A friend of mine just had a kid in a completely unstable situation which is degrading further and further. I honestly couldn’t imagine being in that situation. I’m 37 and I feel like I wouldn’t be ready for a kid -ever- let alone having to deal with a toddler etc in mid 40’s
I look back at people I grew up with who had kids shortly out of high school, man, what a completely different trajectory their lives took as opposed to my own. Most of them never got to do shit, maybe a Mexico vacation a couple times in their lives
Badhobz
01-11-2024, 08:48 AM
My brother in law just had a kid and he’s in his 40s. The little fucker is driving him up the wall. He totally regrets it now and basically lives like a zombie.
The only cool thing would be when he’s 65 that little shit will finally be driving age and can drive him to his prostate exams.
bcrdukes
01-11-2024, 09:03 AM
Wishful thinking, Badhobz. Refer to my signature.
The kid won't drive, won't get a driver's license, won't want a car, and will tell dad to get an Uber/Lyft. Or call you to drive him. :lol
EvoFire
01-11-2024, 09:19 AM
All the power to people having kids later in life but for me, like legit it would be a fucking nightmare and I’d probably fall into a deep depression if it happened to me lol
A friend of mine just had a kid in a completely unstable situation which is degrading further and further. I honestly couldn’t imagine being in that situation. I’m 37 and I feel like I wouldn’t be ready for a kid -ever- let alone having to deal with a toddler etc in mid 40’s
I look back at people I grew up with who had kids shortly out of high school, man, what a completely different trajectory their lives took as opposed to my own. Most of them never got to do shit, maybe a Mexico vacation a couple times in their lives
Some people really shouldn't have kids and a lot of those who shouldn't don't recognize that. It takes a lot of self retrospective to know you don't want kids.
I'm sure there are those who are successful who had kids early, but those seem few and far between. Blanket statement here, but those that have accidents at a young age, chances are they don't have the self control or correct mindset to begin with. Kid or not they probably wouldn't have been successful.
Hondaracer
01-11-2024, 09:34 AM
100%
Don’t think a single one of the people I knew who had a kid 2-3 years out of HS ever did much post-secondary, and most seemingly work average jobs where maybe you’ve progressed into management just by virtue of time served.
Whereas my wife, 38, is about to finish her second degree, has had time to dedicate to getting her PMP and other professional designations to climb the career ladder. It’s obviously substantially harder for women to excel in their careers if you had a couple kids early in life
These days if your parents don’t have money and you have a kid before you’re 20, you’re -fucked-
6793026
01-11-2024, 10:04 AM
One of the key issues I have are the girls who are picky being picky.
I know i'm getting flamed for this but when you're 28-32 that's prime time to settle to have kids. Now if you're a lawyer, doctor and just traveling to get your schooling done then yeah, it'll be SUPER hard to settle down in a city.
Once you're ready to find a place to work say 35... you only got 1-2 years of solid dating and have kids before 40.
Now, if you're the type that are picky from 28 - 38... then that's your problem.
Puberty (esp. growing taller) and child birthing are the only things you can't cheat mother nature.
mikemhg
01-11-2024, 10:55 AM
I'm 38 and the GF is 36, and she's thinking about freezing her eggs "just in case".
I'm like honey, I hope you don't get buyers remorse doing that, because my stance on having kids is likely not to change here, the ship has pretty much sailed for us.
My parents are old, so are hers, grandparents are gone. That's the caveat to waiting until your late 30s with children, the support system dries up because family is all old now. We're also set in our ways and enjoy the lifestyle we have. When you're younger you're more mailable, able to pivot the pitfalls of raising a kid, as you get older, not so much.
She's on the side of likely not having any, but it doesn't help when all her Flip and Asian housewife friends are popping 'em out left, right, and center.
EvoFire
01-11-2024, 11:20 AM
I'm 38 and the GF is 36, and she's thinking about freezing her eggs "just in case".
I'm like honey, I hope you don't get buyers remorse doing that, because my stance on having kids is likely not to change here, the ship has pretty much sailed for us.
My parents are old, so are hers, grandparents are gone. That's the caveat to waiting until your late 30s with children, the support system dries up because family is all old now. We're also set in our ways and enjoy the lifestyle we have. When you're younger you're more mailable, able to pivot the pitfalls of raising a kid, as you get older, not so much.
She's on the side of likely not having any, but it doesn't help when all her Flip and Asian housewife friends are popping 'em out left, right, and center.
I have a friend who's kind of in your boat in terms of age, but very ill suited to have kids. Guy is 36, girl is 39 this year. They just bought a rock to get married sometime in the next year or so and they have both said they wanted to have kids at some point.
Nothing against them as people as the guy is a good friend of mine who's gone through some shit in his life. He's a great guy but sometimes his head is not screwed on properly. I'm not sure how but he's managed to impulse buy 3 cars in his life time, Civic Si back in 2012, 2020 ND2 Miata, then he bought a used M340i last year. Girl impulse bought a used base Mini Cooper before they got together, which she was severely upside down on when she totalled it end of 2022.
They visit us and see us with our kids a few times a year and the last time they came by his tune about kids have kind of changed and he's not sure about kids. She's still all gung ho about it but she's turning 39.
I keep telling him to think about it and talk with her about the whole kids thing. But knowing them, they'll probably get pregnant and be like, "Yay we having kids" one day.
mikemhg
01-11-2024, 11:23 AM
^If they have one, I expect them to divorce in a few years after :lol
dark0821
01-11-2024, 11:51 AM
Yea... ^was gonna say.
Having kids is a wonderful thing, but its commitment to the fullest~ Super rewarding, but also very restrictive in terms of lifestyle then... especially the early few years.
We also didnt have help from grandparents (well they helped us immensely on the house downpayment so if I were to choose again, I probably still choose the downpayment hahaha). Good thing my wife didn't even have her career started yet, so we bit the bullet and she has stayed home full time ever since.
My daughter finally got her red cross babysitting license a week ago (signed up for the course even before daughter's bday hahaha). Wife just finished her resume, hopefully they do mean better income in the future~~
bcrdukes
01-11-2024, 11:58 AM
Your daughter looks like she's 5. How is she gonna babysit anyone? :lol
Badhobz
01-11-2024, 12:37 PM
She can baby sit her little brother and the doggies. You pay her now !!!
Gerbs
01-11-2024, 12:55 PM
She can baby sit her little brother and the doggies. You pay her now !!!
daughter asks for pay!
I GIVE YOU HOUSING AND FOOD -dark
You pay her now !!!
you be like
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/b7/db/1db7dbc47f31a9330aa89e0562ace1c4.jpg
dark0821
01-11-2024, 01:06 PM
daughter asks for pay!
I GIVE YOU HOUSING AND FOOD -dark
Its crazy, her instructor told her that starting rate should be around $20/hr, and once she has experience, they should be at $25/hr
I am like holy crap... your dad started at like $7.25 .... WTF is this $20/hr shit lolol I am like I cant afford you.
supafamous
01-11-2024, 01:11 PM
Its crazy, her instructor told her that starting rate should be around $20/hr, and once she has experience, they should be at $25/hr
I am like holy crap... your dad started at like $7.25 .... WTF is this $20/hr shit lolol I am like I cant afford you.
I pay $30/hr for my babysitter but she's a full time nanny so pretty fancy in terms of what she offers. It's total overkill for us but when you find a good one that you like you just leave it - my daughter loves her and my wife trusts her so that's that.
We did shop around for the $20/hr babysitters but none of them were any good - lot of flakes, lot of people who didn't have the personality/touch needed for a young kid (but fine for older kids).
EvoFire
01-11-2024, 01:13 PM
^If they have one, I expect them to divorce in a few years after :lol
I feel 100% the same way.
The girl is 120% not mother material. She goes gets her lashes done every other week and she communicates poorly. She would be the type I would say that causes childhood trauma because she can't make it understood what she's expecting and what she wants but just lashes out at your for not doing what she thinks is the right thing to do.
I think the guy gets that so he's not as much into having kids anymore.
We know another couple where the girl is super duper uber rich, to the point where she barely works but spends like crazy. She's got a temper and so does the guy. We've talked to her about kids and she says she's neutral about it but the guy wants kids. They got a dog together which they ended up returning to the breeder after 2 months. Afterwards her tune became I would have kids, but he's not the right guy for it.
tegra7
01-11-2024, 01:16 PM
It happened again
https://vancouversun.com/news/truck-hauling-over-height-load-scrapes-massey-tunnel-in-richmond/wcm/50b4b622-d3a5-4600-a8d0-3fdd255f8321/amp/
whitev70r
01-11-2024, 01:26 PM
^ Yah, saw that. If they had to shut down the Massey Tunnel even for a day ... oh gawd, good luck !!
But then, had we let the Provincial Libs do their thing, there'd be a bridge there by now.
Gerbs
01-11-2024, 01:28 PM
Its crazy, her instructor told her that starting rate should be around $20/hr, and once she has experience, they should be at $25/hr
I am like holy crap... your dad started at like $7.25 .... WTF is this $20/hr shit lolol I am like I cant afford you.
When dad started his bowl of pho was $6, his daughter pays $18 for a bowl now
bcrdukes
01-11-2024, 01:50 PM
Afterwards her tune became I would have kids, but he's not the right guy for it.
Dafuq?!?!?! :seriously:
Damn, that's cold.
EvoFire
01-11-2024, 01:53 PM
Dafuq?!?!?! :seriously:
Damn, that's cold.
I don't know if you read as she'll have kids with some one else, that's not it. It's more to the tune of she can have kids, but her husband is not going to be a good dad so there will be no kids in her life.
bcrdukes
01-11-2024, 01:54 PM
A bit of both, actually!
SSM_DC5
01-11-2024, 02:07 PM
$20 an hour cash?!?! Or is your daughter paying taxes on that 20
bcrdukes
01-11-2024, 02:28 PM
Excuse me! CRA! 5 year old child not reporting income taxes from babysitting gig!
mikemhg
01-11-2024, 03:28 PM
I feel 100% the same way.
The girl is 120% not mother material. She goes gets her lashes done every other week and she communicates poorly. She would be the type I would say that causes childhood trauma because she can't make it understood what she's expecting and what she wants but just lashes out at your for not doing what she thinks is the right thing to do.
I think the guy gets that so he's not as much into having kids anymore.
We know another couple where the girl is super duper uber rich, to the point where she barely works but spends like crazy. She's got a temper and so does the guy. We've talked to her about kids and she says she's neutral about it but the guy wants kids. They got a dog together which they ended up returning to the breeder after 2 months. Afterwards her tune became I would have kids, but he's not the right guy for it.
Oh man, when you said she gets her lashes done every other week, I can already envision her type.
I bet she gets manis and pedis every few weeks too, maybe a little botox and fillers as well, dropping the cost of rent per month on such crap.
I wanna guess her career -- I would've gone with lash tech, esthetician, or nurse.
EvoFire
01-11-2024, 04:01 PM
Oh man, when you said she gets her lashes done every other week, I can already envision her type.
I bet she gets manis and pedis every few weeks too, maybe a little botox and fillers as well, dropping the cost of rent per month on such crap.
I wanna guess her career -- I would've gone with lash tech, esthetician, or nurse.
Bingo, she's a nurse at an old age home.
I was telling my wife last year, this is a woman who's 38, has nothing in her name except for upside debt on her totalled Mini Cooper. Was renting a room with a bunch of other nurses until my friend came along. Now they live together in my friend's 1 bdrm condo.
Can you tell I'm not a huge fan of this woman? :badpokerface:
Gerbs
01-11-2024, 04:10 PM
Imma guess nurse/flight attendant
mikemhg
01-11-2024, 04:33 PM
Bingo, she's a nurse at an old age home.
I was telling my wife last year, this is a woman who's 38, has nothing in her name except for upside debt on her totalled Mini Cooper. Was renting a room with a bunch of other nurses until my friend came along. Now they live together in my friend's 1 bdrm condo.
Can you tell I'm not a huge fan of this woman? :badpokerface:
I figured. They are a dime a dozen my friend, no shortage of these types in Vancouver. Make-up artist was my fourth guess, but I got it on the third :lol
I'm sure she's attractive, but your buddy should not put his seed in that woman. He will be paying for it, for life.
your buddy should not put his seed in that woman.
only the bottom :pokerface::troll::ifyouknow:
:lawl::jizz:
:awwyeah:
sonick
01-11-2024, 07:21 PM
Bingo, she's a nurse at an old age home.
I was telling my wife last year, this is a woman who's 38, has nothing in her name except for upside debt on her totalled Mini Cooper. Was renting a room with a bunch of other nurses until my friend came along. Now they live together in my friend's 1 bdrm condo.
Can you tell I'm not a huge fan of this woman? :badpokerface:
Her best chance is if she can give REALLY GOOD head to trick some well off virgin computer programmer guy who was never able to get a gf when he was younger, to fall in love with her coz her sucky sucky is so good.
EvoFire
01-11-2024, 07:47 PM
Her best chance is if she can give REALLY GOOD head to trick some well off virgin computer programmer guy who was never able to get a gf when he was younger, to fall in love with her coz her sucky sucky is so good.
Well she's got my guy friend. His mom's got some money so they don't have to worry about the future :badpokerface:
Great68
01-11-2024, 07:48 PM
Got to love Google's little tracker report.
I didn't realize how much ground I actually covered over the last year:
https://i.imgur.com/tCK8qUY.png
tegra7
01-11-2024, 09:20 PM
It happened again
https://vancouversun.com/news/truck-hauling-over-height-load-scrapes-massey-tunnel-in-richmond/wcm/50b4b622-d3a5-4600-a8d0-3fdd255f8321/amp/
And reset the clock.WutFace
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/01/11/burnaby-overpass-truck-indent/
SSM_DC5
01-11-2024, 11:03 PM
Oh man, when you said she gets her lashes done every other week, I can already envision her type.
I bet she gets manis and pedis every few weeks too, maybe a little botox and fillers as well, dropping the cost of rent per month on such crap.
I wanna guess her career -- I would've gone with lash tech, esthetician, or nurse.
Guessing a nurse from weekly mani pedi and lashes? What unit does your gf work on??? Plastics?
why y'all hating, it's all about self care gais
https://media.tenor.com/YpANNEqvxqEAAAAM/treat-yo-self-donna.gif
Got to love Google's little tracker report.
I didn't realize how much ground I actually covered over the last year:
https://i.imgur.com/tCK8qUY.png
wow, is that for work or vacation?
Great68
01-12-2024, 08:16 AM
Bit of both actually
mikemhg
01-12-2024, 10:37 AM
Guessing a nurse from weekly mani pedi and lashes? What unit does your gf work on??? Plastics?
Acute medicine :lol
I'll give her credit, she's definitely toned it down over the last few years.
Badhobz
01-12-2024, 11:11 AM
With the blowjobs ? I mean blow outs ?
I mean blow outs ?
you mean blowing out the back?
donk.
01-12-2024, 05:06 PM
you mean blowing out the back?
That term is so 2022, you mean reorganizing intestines?
tegra7
01-12-2024, 05:07 PM
Explains the Surrey trips.
BIC_BAWS
01-12-2024, 05:09 PM
Got to love Google's little tracker report.
I didn't realize how much ground I actually covered over the last year:
https://i.imgur.com/tCK8qUY.png
I shockingly did quite a bit last year too. Mostly track days where its outside of GVRD tho. I was only supposed to do 1 track day at most. I did 4 lol.
https://i.imgur.com/taquvu6.png
CivicBlues
01-12-2024, 09:45 PM
Jesus fuck you guys leave that shit on? It's the first thing I turn off. There's no good that can come from this IMO.
In other news, did anyone else receive an email from MNP lawyers about a class action against facebook?
Seeking $51 million in damages
Lawyers want $17 million of that
Leaving $34 million to be spread among 4.3 million potential plaintiffs who had an account between 2011 and 2014.
For a grand total of $7.90 awarded to each plaintiff :rofl:
winson604
01-12-2024, 11:15 PM
Yup got he email. Iphone has a clas action too for those who can prove they bought an iPhone 6 or something.
donk.
01-12-2024, 11:30 PM
Jesus fuck you guys leave that shit on? It's the first thing I turn off. There's no good that can come from this IMO.
I mean.....
Do you have tape over your front camera?
Do you delete cookies and history after using google / fb / instagram / whatsapp / literally any website?
Is your phone microphone disabled after phone calls?
Our phone track everything we do dawg, theres a reason why your notes app "requests access" to your photos, microphone, gps, blood records, it scores, etc. same with every other app
To take it one step further, this AI shit is going crazy.
I saw a video where an app (lets call it instagram) has access to your phone motion sensor + gps. Now take 5 people standing in a room, every phone has that app.
Instagram can pinpoint what way 5 people are standing/walking in a room, based by where people keep their phone. Ex: in their pocket.
BIC_BAWS
01-13-2024, 01:12 AM
Jesus fuck you guys leave that shit on? It's the first thing I turn off. There's no good that can come from this IMO.
I like to know what cool routes I've accidentally discovered on trips.
Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
Badhobz
01-13-2024, 06:17 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1_WKA3OjiT/?igsh=bGZsajRhOGE2Z2w3
Epic
This is the best thing I’ve ever seen. Just need to add the parking lot fights and it would be 100% authentic
SSM_DC5
01-13-2024, 08:55 PM
When the RS meat happens at your place, I know someone who can make those decorations.
Badhobz
01-13-2024, 09:22 PM
if a RS meat happens at my place, im gonna barg into the washroom to ensure all you fuckers sit your ass down to pee
Badhobz
01-14-2024, 07:51 AM
These are super interesting to watch. Food is so integral to Cantonese culture that it is an expression of love and I'm so glad I was able to partake in some of it this time in Hong Kong. It's like ingesting culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAqvfxIgCaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYynOu8D6-g
sonick
01-14-2024, 07:59 AM
Lucas Sin is great ^
bcrdukes
01-14-2024, 08:12 AM
We need a westopher version!
westopher
01-14-2024, 11:00 AM
I'll do the PNW e30 m3 food road trip if I ever have time at some point again in my life.
Badhobz
01-14-2024, 01:17 PM
Can I come ?!? :megusta::megusta:
dark0821
01-14-2024, 03:12 PM
in the camry?
bcrdukes
01-15-2024, 07:50 AM
Has anyone in recent years driven from Vancouver to LA in late March, early April? I'm trying to gauge what the weather is like and how safe it is to drive from Vancouver to Los Angeles.
I know historically, the weather is hit and miss in the Pacific Northwest from Seattle to about NorCal, and it can get sketchy with unpredictable rounds of rain, snow, sleet, ice etc.
Vehicle in question is a 986 Boxster S on Hankook summer tires (Hankooks on a Porsche - criminal. I know.) Thanks in advance.
Badhobz
01-15-2024, 07:54 AM
I drove from Vancouver to SF in Late May and i still wasn't even that warm. I dont think in March is gonna be that enjoyable until you hit soCal. That orgeon coast drive is going to be pretty miserable in march/april
minoru_tanaka
01-15-2024, 07:57 AM
I mean.....
Do you have tape over your front camera?
Do you delete cookies and history after using google / fb / instagram / whatsapp / literally any website?
Is your phone microphone disabled after phone calls?
Our phone track everything we do dawg, theres a reason why your notes app "requests access" to your photos, microphone, gps, blood records, it scores, etc. same with every other app
To take it one step further, this AI shit is going crazy.
I saw a video where an app (lets call it instagram) has access to your phone motion sensor + gps. Now take 5 people standing in a room, every phone has that app.
Instagram can pinpoint what way 5 people are standing/walking in a room, based by where people keep their phone. Ex: in their pocket.
Yep when you turn off these things or delete your history, the only thing you are doing is deleting your access to it.
bcrdukes
01-15-2024, 08:05 AM
RIP
Looking to do some track days in SoCal.
roastpuff
01-15-2024, 08:36 AM
Weather wise you should be ok barring a freak snowstorm on the Grapevine or Shasta, but it's not top down weather until SoCal for sure.
bcrdukes
01-15-2024, 08:57 AM
This is what I fear - the freak snowstorm in and around those areas.
I'm okay not driving with the top down. It's ok for certain times of the day but for 12+ hours straight, I'd go crazy. :D
Badhobz
01-15-2024, 09:36 AM
that being said, the drive to oregon coast/norcal coast is spectacular. One of my absolutely favorite drives.
Stay off the i5, go the twist route along the coast and just enjoy your time. All the little towns and villages along the way are super charming and the regional foods are all affordable + tasty. Mo's clam chowder is legit in oregon coast.
Drive that avenue of the giants top down and be amazed at the wonder of it all.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ymoq332MMuHiD1A4A
https://i.postimg.cc/6Q8Stz8v/IMG-4904.jpg
mikemhg
01-15-2024, 10:53 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1_WKA3OjiT/?igsh=bGZsajRhOGE2Z2w3
Epic
This is the best thing I’ve ever seen. Just need to add the parking lot fights and it would be 100% authentic
Only Asians.
CivicBlues
01-15-2024, 12:38 PM
Only Asians.
nope definitely spotted 2 white guys at the end.
Cringy AF tho. Feel bad for them.
Badhobz
01-15-2024, 12:55 PM
^the dude who opened the door looks like he's missing a few chromosomes
Only Asians.
sounds like a good name for a website :ifyouknow:
murd0c
01-15-2024, 02:19 PM
that being said, the drive to oregon coast/norcal coast is spectacular. One of my absolutely favorite drives.
Stay off the i5, go the twist route along the coast and just enjoy your time. All the little towns and villages along the way are super charming and the regional foods are all affordable + tasty. Mo's clam chowder is legit in oregon coast.
Drive that avenue of the giants top down and be amazed at the wonder of it all.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ymoq332MMuHiD1A4A
https://i.postimg.cc/6Q8Stz8v/IMG-4904.jpg
I did that once coming back from Cannon Beach and took a wrong turn and ending up going around the entire Olympic Peninsula and ended up making a 6 hour drive into a 14 1/2 hour drive... Lets say my ex was not impressed but talk about a good story LOL
Hondaracer
01-15-2024, 02:27 PM
It’s no wonder everyone just sticks to the I5 because everything else is just a weavy headache.
Going from Portland to Cannon beach even it was wayyy longer than I expected because it’s such a weird route. I’m sure that’s how most of that route ends up being.
Badhobz
01-15-2024, 03:49 PM
It’s the weirdo little routes that’s the most memorable and fascinating. I5 is so boring. It’s only good if you need get there as soon as possible.
SkinnyPupp
01-15-2024, 04:49 PM
Just got back from a 2 night backpacking trip on a beach in Sai Kung country park.. We took a taxi 40 minutes from the main village to some trails, and hiked to the beach, about 2 hours. It was a paved hike, but with lots of elevation change as you cross over 2 or 3 mountains. Considering how out of shape I am, it was like 8/10 difficulty after about 3/4 way through. For most people, maybe 6. Extra rough because for whatever reason I was only able to sleep for about 3 hours the night before.
The views were amazing though. The weather was mostly sunny and dry, with wind to keep you cool
https://i.imgur.com/GsfJxo8.png
My view from camp
https://i.imgur.com/LUufoY2.png
It's actually not as remote as a 40 minute + 2 hour hike. You can take a boat straight from Sai Kung and be there in half an hour. It lands on the beach and you have to jump in to about knee-waist height and hope it's not too wavy or you'll get wet. This is how we got home, and it took me literally 1 hour to get home from the beach, including the boat ride and bus. Something about that felt strange, because the damn hike took a lot out of me lol
I contracted some sort of bug out there, so I have been shitting my ass off since the moment I got home.. Thank fuck this didn't happen when I was out there!
Manic!
01-15-2024, 05:20 PM
It's a chopper.
Trucker hauling a chopper hits an overpass on highway 1.
https://www.facebook.com/100057561544730/videos/360050663439291
Badhobz
01-15-2024, 05:35 PM
Skinny that’s some beautiful views. Good for you guys
westopher
01-15-2024, 06:27 PM
It’s no wonder everyone just sticks to the I5 because everything else is just a weavy headache.
Going from Portland to Cannon beach even it was wayyy longer than I expected because it’s such a weird route. I’m sure that’s how most of that route ends up being.
Yeah I mean why do this
https://live.staticflickr.com/4432/36361918213_1240f2cced_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Xpbksn)
or this
https://live.staticflickr.com/4380/36481658003_380152968c_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XzL2Vv)
When you could have scenery like this
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/cUQ1CJObbG00TaXEAHSxCPg_02I=/0x0:2054x1541/1400x1050/filters:focal(0x0:2054x1541):format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/46919940/GettyImages-463859236.0.0.jpg
bcrdukes
01-15-2024, 06:42 PM
Sweet jesus that urban planning :troll:
donk.
01-15-2024, 07:12 PM
It's a chopper.
Trucker hauling a chopper hits an overpass on highway 1.
https://www.facebook.com/100057561544730/videos/360050663439291
There goes 400k
Mikoyan
01-15-2024, 11:13 PM
that being said, the drive to oregon coast/norcal coast is spectacular. One of my absolutely favorite drives.
Stay off the i5, go the twist route along the coast and just enjoy your time. All the little towns and villages along the way are super charming and the regional foods are all affordable + tasty. Mo's clam chowder is legit in oregon coast.
Drive that avenue of the giants top down and be amazed at the wonder of it all.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ymoq332MMuHiD1A4A
https://i.postimg.cc/6Q8Stz8v/IMG-4904.jpg
Tops and bottoms down eh? Hope the leather seats are ventilated.
donk.
01-15-2024, 11:25 PM
They dont need to be ventilated when you have goldbond
mikemhg
01-16-2024, 11:13 AM
It’s no wonder everyone just sticks to the I5 because everything else is just a weavy headache.
Going from Portland to Cannon beach even it was wayyy longer than I expected because it’s such a weird route. I’m sure that’s how most of that route ends up being.
Not only long, but WAY fucking different in temperature.
Picture 4 dudes hopping into a car on a summer day in Portland (30 degrees out), shorts and beaters on, cooler filled, looking forward to a beach day at Cannon.
We drive the almost 2 hours to get there only to arrive into a village of Patagonia wearing families, with it being 9 degrees out in the summer. We could see our motherfucking breaths.
Needless to say we spent 30 mins there only to drive another 2 hours back to sunny/hot Portland, massively disappointed.
I've never experienced such a disparity in temps in such a relatively short drive (aside from going somewhere at elevation).
Hondaracer
01-16-2024, 11:24 AM
Yea wouldn’t doubt it, between Portland and the coast you drive through like 3 different eco systems lol
if you drank enough you wouldn't have felt a thing
:drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk:
quasi
01-16-2024, 12:53 PM
How many of you went away for University? What was the experience like?
My son has always played football, he's in grade 12 graduating this year. University offers started going out to some students in November, they'll continue to go out probably until end of spring and as offers get denied because some of the best athletes get so many, more become available.
He received an offer from a decent University but it really couldn't be further away from home in Halifax, I don't know how I feel about sending my only child all the way across the Country. He may still get other offers closer to home as there is quite a bit of time left.
His other option if another offer doesn't come is stay at home, go to school locally and play Canadian Junior Football, he has a tryout next month and they've been pursuing him so I don't think he'd have a problem making that team, he also has played for some of the coaches there before. Honestly, I would prefer this to him going to Eastern Canada because he can use it as a springboard to jump over to a University football team in year 2 or 3.
He doesn't have aspirations of being a pro football player but he has always wanted to play College Football and when he got that offer I was so happy for him that his hard work paid off. I'm really torn about putting too much pressure on him one way or the other or trying to convince him not to go and then have him regret it.
I'm curious what experiences others have had with going away to University? Was it a good experience? Did you have support close by and if not was that rough?
supafamous
01-16-2024, 01:07 PM
How many of you went away for University? What was the experience like?
My son has always played football, he's in grade 12 graduating this year. University offers started going out to some students in November, they'll continue to go out probably until end of spring and as offers get denied because some of the best athletes get so many, more become available.
He received an offer from a decent University but it really couldn't be further away from home in Halifax, I don't know how I feel about sending my only child all the way across the Country. He may still get other offers closer to home as there is quite a bit of time left.
I'm curious what experiences others have had with going away to University? Was it a good experience? Did you have support close by and if not was that rough?
First of all, congrats to you and your son!
Second, I didn't go away for university but had several friends who did and I wish I did too - it really helped them grow up and mature as they had to take on so many more responsibilities. They got serious about life sooner than I did and they also made lifelong friends out of university in a way that's harder to do when you live at home. My closest friend at the time moved to Ottawa with no support at all and he really thrived while my g/f at the time moved to Montreal and learned very quickly what she didn't want to do with her life.
When the day comes I'm going to encourage my daughter to move out for university even if she chooses to stay nearby.
Third, Halifax is a cool place to go to university and it's not actually that far now that there are direct flights there (it's not much further than going to Toronto - just an hour more)
bcrdukes
01-16-2024, 01:51 PM
quasi - First and foremost, congratulations! You must be really proud! Forgive me for the long winded post as I am very passionate about this very topic!
Now, let me throw out my caveat and say that I do not have kids, but I do have many years of experience in working with, and running the co-op program at my workplace. The range of students I get are made up of a combination those who moved away for school and to do their co-op terms, or for their internships, and also kids who stayed home for school and doing their co-op locally.
Note that I grew up in Vancouver and was encouraged to stay home for school, so there is a level of bias, but I am over that. (I wanted to put that out there for transparency.) I have been in the GTA for a number of years now where I call it home. In hindsight, I wished I had gone away for school.
Observationally, the kids who move away for school tend to work harder and are forced to grow up, as opposed to the kids who live at home and get dropped off and picked up for their co-op term (yes, many of their parents still drive them and they will not drive.)
There is enough evidence for me to club co-op students who have moved away from home in the category of those who generally do better in classes and have built a stronger work ethic, and are far more resilient to those who stay home. I feel this way because they've learned how to do things on their own without mom and dad being their fallback mechanism. They are also more resourceful in many ways you can imagine.
I have many colleagues who have gone through the same situation as you and they've spoken to me about it. All of them want their kids to stay home for school, very few will want their kids to go somewhere for school, but those who do are the parents who fully understand and support their child's academic and career goals, and for a variety of reasons, be it financial, growth, and what have you.
If said school is Dalhousie, you should rest assured your kid will be fine. Most of my co-op students did not have a support system and are from Vancouver, Calgary, the GTA, and overseas. It's a good university town. Some of my best co-ops are from Dalhousie and like supafamous said, lots of flights from Toronto, so there is a great opportunity for your kid to experience life on the other side of the country. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it will be the right decision. All the best!
TLDR: Refer to my signature. :D :troll:
congrats, i'm sure it's a proud feeling you must have.
i've done post secondary (from 17) at home, and as a young adult away from home.
i'd say it depends on his maturity and independence. i wasn't mature enough at 17 to grasp the level of independence and maturity needed for post secondary and you really have to time manage/look after yourself
fast fwd couple years school out of province and i was on my own, i had to cook (haha), do laundry, dishes, etc on my own, time manage etc, it really made me grow up, broke my addiction to watching TV, etc. i made some friends but also already had a couple of classmates i knew already there, so having a couple of people with you, in the same classes does help a lot when you're young and can feel alone, especially in a competitive program
your son being an athlete i assume he has discipline which is good, but as long as he doesn't have negative influences and can keep on track he should be good. i've seen guys in the dorms (i lived off campus with a friend) that partied and flunked out as a result. mind you those guys seem to want to be there for a good time and a long time
quasi
01-16-2024, 02:24 PM
quasi - First and foremost, congratulations! You must be really proud! Forgive me for the long winded post as I am very passionate about this very topic!
Now, let me throw out my caveat and say that I do not have kids, but I do have many years of experience in working with, and running the co-op program at my workplace. The range of students I get are made up of a combination those who moved away for school and to do their co-op terms, or for their internships, and also kids who stayed home for school and doing their co-op locally.
Note that I grew up in Vancouver and was encouraged to stay home for school, so there is a level of bias, but I am over that. (I wanted to put that out there for transparency.) I have been in the GTA for a number of years now where I call it home. In hindsight, I wished I had gone away for school.
Observationally, the kids who move away for school tend to work harder and are forced to grow up, as opposed to the kids who live at home and get dropped off and picked up for their co-op term (yes, many of their parents still drive them and they will not drive.)
There is enough evidence for me to club co-op students who have moved away from home in the category of those who generally do better in classes and have built a stronger work ethic, and are far more resilient to those who stay home. I feel this way because they've learned how to do things on their own without mom and dad being their fallback mechanism. They are also more resourceful in many ways you can imagine.
I have many colleagues who have gone through the same situation as you and they've spoken to me about it. All of them want their kids to stay home for school, very few will want their kids to go somewhere for school, but those who do are the parents who fully understand and support their child's academic and career goals, and for a variety of reasons, be it financial, growth, and what have you.
If said school is Dalhousie, you should rest assured your kid will be fine. Most of my co-op students did not have a support system and are from Vancouver, Calgary, the GTA, and overseas. It's a good university town. Some of my best co-ops are from Dalhousie and like supafamous said, lots of flights from Toronto, so there is a great opportunity for your kid to experience life on the other side of the country. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it will be the right decision. All the best!
TLDR: Refer to my signature. :D :troll:
Thank you both for your replies, yes it is Dalhousie. I don't disagree with either of you, it's really hard to think about him leaving it's something I've been battling with this entire school year knowing that there is a pretty good chance that will be the result. I thought my wife would be the soft one but I've been much more affected, at least at surface level.
6793026
01-16-2024, 02:25 PM
Send them away!
Have a security blanket and treat him like a man.
Things I did that I learned the hard way. You fail in school, you fail in sports. Learned to balance both.
Life caught up quick. Had to balance life fast. Yeah, meal passes were great but man it's crap food.
Lastly, the safety blanket is this... You pass the course, we pay for the course with your transcript. I know of people who scammed their parents and spent the tuition on girls and that was a lesson learned.
Loans and grants are available, go ask for it. I learned quick that hot water, internet, electricity costs stuff and realized money management is important.
COngrads to your son.
Hondaracer
01-16-2024, 03:14 PM
3 of my friends I grew up with went to Bishops (a seeming football power house)
We went to go visit the oldest brother the year he graduated, 2008 I think it was?
Fuck what a shit show lol! Bishops was like what you’d imagine these college movies aew like lol. All of them graduated and loved it but after I got back was kinda thankful I could live ar home during school lol.
Traum
01-16-2024, 03:18 PM
Congrats to your son, Quasi, and you must be a proud daddy now.
I have both studied university locally and later went to Onterrible to finish my degree, and I am definitely in the "send them away" camp. The benefits are many and varied as others have already mentioned. In hindsight, the biggest benefits of me going away for school was of course the need to learn how to grow up and be independent very quickly. It was challenging, and even difficult at times, but it was also extremely fulfilling because nearly everything being thrown at me was an entirely new experience, so it was very much an eye-opening and horizon-expanding experience. For a young person, that kind of growth in perspective is really important.
On the other hand, be prepared for the costs if your son plans on going away for school. There is just no way around it -- it is gonna be expensive. It was expensive back when I did it 20+ years ago (gosh that makes me sound so old...), and it is far more expensive to do it now. Still, as a dad, I would say this is money well spent on your son. You definitely do not want to provide for his entire living and studying costs because that is part of the puzzle that he needs to figure out for himself. But you wouldn't want to leave him in a position where he is forced to financially support himself to the point where he wouldn't have enough time for studying, football, and whatever else that may come his way.
When I went to Onterrible for school, I had financial support from the university, so I didn't have to worry about money too much. Near the end of my studies, my financial support from the university did run out, and it was very fortunate that I was able to "borrow" some money from my brother (who has already been working for a few years) to finish off my schooling.
Housing is gonna be a major challenge because we're pretty much having a housing crisis across the entire country. This very same problem was already widely reported on back in September (this year) when school started, and I don't anticipate it improving in September 2024.
In your son's case, I would say that you should equally support whichever decision he comes to. As a parent, I keep reminding myself that I wouldn't ever want to be an impedement to my child's growth. My cousin had the chance to study medicine abroad, but she was too much of a sheltered daughter, and my aunt and uncle really wanted her to stay home (in town) too, so she did. She still went to med school, but I keep thinking that she could have grown so much more had she ventured out to see the big world that is out there.
Badhobz
01-16-2024, 03:20 PM
ugh... "youth".... yuck
throw them out there, if they survive they survive. If not, at least you'll have a pretty reliable drug dealer/pimp/hitman?
WHAT?! I DISLIKE KIDS!!!!!
Manic!
01-16-2024, 04:03 PM
If your kid want's to play collage ball let him. I have 2 nephews who play hockey. both were out of the house by 17 living with billets in some small town. It's been great for them. Athletes these days are a lot more disciplined than before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fjztq3SwW4
ImportPsycho
01-16-2024, 07:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/R96NxepgaEbzpzd3/?mibextid=CmRSLE
:facepalm:
Great68
01-17-2024, 07:07 AM
The fast ferries are up for sale again, listed on Facebook marketplace.
Currently in Egypt, $15mil OBO, or they're getting scrapped for good this time haha.
https://cdn.cheknews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/12150048/fastcat-facebook-listing-e1705100501343.jpg
Infamous fastcat bc ferries vessels up for sale before being scrapped (https://www.cheknews.ca/infamous-fastcat-bc-ferries-vessels-up-for-sale-before-being-scrapped-1185909/)
Facebook Marketplace ad (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2342219269306206/?ref=marketplace_profile&referral_code=undefined)
SkunkWorks
01-17-2024, 08:11 AM
@quasi - dalhousie is an awesome school and halifax is a fun place to be.
Le gf and i were out there while she did her masters and we really enjoyed it - and we don't even drink :lol Not to mention all the benefits of having your kid live away from home during post-secondary.
whitev70r
01-17-2024, 08:54 AM
Gawd, heard about this and thought uh-oh, I hope this doesn't become a big deal ... and become grounds for an appeal, worst yet, a reversal of outcome! Creative investigators and cops to get a lead and solve this. This is the case of that 13 yo Burnaby girl who was killed near Central Park.
Eby backs police who secretly took DNA from Kurds to solve B.C. murder
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/01/15/david-eby-police-undercover-dna-murder/
Hondaracer
01-17-2024, 08:59 AM
Fuck watch that get the case overturned.
If I was in his shoes I’d certainly do everything in my power to use that to get the case overturned, I’m sure in Canada shit has been overturned for farrrrr less.
Traum
01-17-2024, 09:14 AM
It'd be extremely unfortunate if the case gets overturned in a higher court. I don't have a problem with the police going undercover to collect DNA samples, but they should have followed procedure and obtained a warrant to do this.
Why was it so difficult for them to pull a warrant first? When it is part of the investigation, surely the court would have approved for the warrant.
underscore
01-17-2024, 09:31 AM
What about the 147 people who had their DNA documented without their consent or a warrant? I'm assuming that's a minimum number that we're only hearing about because this operation found his brother which led to him, how many other times have they done stuff like this that aren't mentioned because it didn't turn up a lead?
Great68
01-17-2024, 09:36 AM
The question is,
Is a warrant really required for what is considered public trash?
If these people put their cups directly into a trash bin, and the police picked them out from there would the situation be different?
When you put trash out to the curb for collection, you lose your privacy rights to it once it leaves your property line. Supreme Court of Canada has already set this precedent: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/privacy-rights-end-when-trash-hits-the-curb-court-says/article20442343/
Hondaracer
01-17-2024, 09:58 AM
That wasn’t the case though they didn’t just go to the event and dig through the garbage, they were actively setting people up to collect their DNA by the sounds of it
whitev70r
01-17-2024, 10:07 AM
I think for this case, the Civil Liberties lawyers should just be quiet and let it slide ... pick another case to be that SJW champion.
N.V.M.
01-17-2024, 10:14 AM
..... bah, hang on. why is posting media so hard in this place
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2NnBDwPuNU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
freakshow
01-17-2024, 10:23 AM
@quasi, i thought I might as well balance out the discussion with my biased POV. I stayed local for school, loved it, and will encourage all 3 of my kids to do the same. I also spent 2 years away for my second job (a few years out of school).
To me, the balance is between expediting maturity in the form of chores, being on time, etc vs the possibility of negative influences, and maybe selfishly, where they choose to raise their family.
There are always edge cases, like the kid who stays local and never grows up because their parents do everything for them, or the kid who goes away and does drugs and has 3 baby mommas..
I don't believe its necessary to move away to develop maturity and discipline, and I think there are some interesting risks involved with sending your kids away depending on the college, the culture, and your own values.
You know your kid best and what they would benefit from, good luck!
Great68
01-17-2024, 10:44 AM
That wasn’t the case though they didn’t just go to the event and dig through the garbage, they were actively setting people up to collect their DNA by the sounds of it
Sure, but they weren't compelling people to give their used cup back.
6793026
01-17-2024, 10:49 AM
They know it will get thrown out... Personal rights trumps doing things legally.
Eby keeps saying on how bad these bad people do but never on the protocols.
again, I'm getting all these from articles on Pac Press so it might be bias.
All in all, boss tells you to do it, you do it... catch them first, screw them over their flow and deal with the legal stuff later.
Cops knew it's illegal but when top down says just do it... do it.
underscore
01-17-2024, 12:47 PM
Sure, but they weren't compelling people to give their used cup back.
this kinda sounds like they were, depending on what you consider to be compelling.
But when that didn’t yield a breakthrough, police devised a new plan to obtain DNA without permission. They would secretly collect DNA at a Kurdish New Year celebration, known as Newroz, at Burnaby’s Barnet Marine Park on March 25, 2018, the recordings revealed.
An RCMP officerexplained the operation to the B.C. Supreme Court in November 2022 calling it an “incentive-based scenario.”
“The specific scenario was a taste test of tea,” the officer told the court.
He said officers dressed as market researchers for a tea company and roamed around the Newroz celebration, offering free samples. He said the participants were also given Tim Hortons gift cards.
“I believe it was a $5 gift card, but I can’t be certain on the amount,” the officer said.
“The participants (who) elected to participate in this event, (and) it was entirely voluntary, could elect to provide personal information which would further give them the possibility of being entered into some form of contest or sweepstakes. This, again, was voluntary.”
But participants were never told the tea company was fake and the entire process was designed solely to allow police to obtain their DNA and identities.
The officer said the cups were “individually and uniquely numbered” so police could later match DNA on the cups with names on the contest forms.
Great68
01-17-2024, 01:29 PM
"Entirely Voluntary" and "Compelled" are literally opposites in their meaning
ImportPsycho
01-17-2024, 03:28 PM
I think for this case, the Civil Liberties lawyers should just be quiet and let it slide ... pick another case to be that SJW champion.
How do they sleep at night knowing what they are pushing for could possibly let convicted child rape/murder walk?
He did admit to SAing her.... wtf....
Mikoyan
01-17-2024, 06:40 PM
Eby keeps saying on how bad these bad people do but never on the protocols.
Eby used to be on the Civil Liberties side, so it makes his comments even more two faced.
whitev70r
01-17-2024, 08:17 PM
Eby used to be on the Civil Liberties side, so it makes his comments even more two faced.
Or, maybe he is older and wiser, less ideal now. He knows that reality is a bit grayer ... and sometimes, the end justifies the means.
Badhobz
01-18-2024, 07:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN-VCgeoZmY
What the fuck.....
i wanna kill myself now. why did i watch this dipshit fingerboard for 10 minutes
why did i watch this dipshit fingerboard for 10 minutes
so you can improve your fingering game? :badpokerface: :nyan:
68style
01-18-2024, 09:45 AM
I couldn't keep watching, every time he said "finger"... I kept waiting for him to say "bang" instead of "board" and having this "Yahhhhhh... oh no... not this time" feeling, it got too intense after awhile.
Looking for recommendations for window replacements.
Looking to do the whole house.
Centra? Lifelong? West Coast Windows?
Hondaracer
01-18-2024, 01:50 PM
Do NOT go with that window company that advertises on TV, renewal by Andersen or whatever lol they are the biggest fucking scam running. I’ve met 3 seperate people who used them, all 3 have the exact same story, a basic window replacement was $5000 after some long winded BS story lol, it’s like they work off a script.
If you’re looking at vinyl windows, Starline makes the best vinyl windows in BC imo. And they have great techs, great quality control etc. know quite a few people involved there
Do NOT go with that window company that advertises on TV, renewal by Andersen or whatever lol they are the biggest fucking scam running. I’ve met 3 seperate people who used them, all 3 have the exact same story, a basic window replacement was $5000 after some long winded BS story lol, it’s like they work off a script.
If you’re looking at vinyl windows, Starline makes the best vinyl windows in BC imo. And they have great techs, great quality control etc. know quite a few people involved there
It's funny you mention them because they brought me their flyer and I said absolutely not.
Hondaracer
01-18-2024, 02:05 PM
Friends who live around the corner used them and it was fucking hilarious as their commercials show these white guys their “professional” technicians etc. they obviously use almost exclusively contractors.
So the day rolls around for the window replacement and 3 Mexican guys show up from “Andersen” who barely spoke English, they start cutting out the window and realize it’s some fucked up window anchored into the structure of the home. Long story short a 5 hour jog ended up taking 5 days because they destroyed the inside drywall as well as the kitchen backsplash simply getting the old window out lol. Fucking clowns
I’ve also heard stories of them going door to door and when a woman answers they tell her “maybe you should consult with your husband when he’s home”
:lol
Great68
01-18-2024, 02:32 PM
Sounds like my experience with "Leaf Filter Gutter" people.
Local reps are just some salesperson working out of their car, and some nobody contractor for installation.
Much better to go to the installation contractor directly.
I used Thermal King here on the island for a few various windows. They used Thermoproof windows, also manufactured here on the island (Cobble Hill). I'm happy with both the quality of installation (which was completely problem free and seamless) and the windows themselves.
westopher
01-18-2024, 04:36 PM
Friends who live around the corner used them and it was fucking hilarious as their commercials show these white guys their “professional” technicians etc. they obviously use almost exclusively contractors.
So the day rolls around for the window replacement and 3 Mexican guys show up from “Andersen” who barely spoke English, they start cutting out the window and realize it’s some fucked up window anchored into the structure of the home. Long story short a 5 hour jog ended up taking 5 days because they destroyed the inside drywall as well as the kitchen backsplash simply getting the old window out lol. Fucking clowns
I’ve also heard stories of them going door to door and when a woman answers they tell her “maybe you should consult with your husband when he’s home”
:lol
lol my favourite part of that ad
"Renewal by Anderson makes windows that are custom designed to fit your specific window opening"
Like you stupid motherfucker that's using 15 extra words to say window.
whitev70r
01-18-2024, 05:21 PM
Pray to the transit gods that this doesn't happen, will be 20x worst than the snow storm
Strike escalation: Full shutdown of TransLink bus and SeaBus services possible starting Monday
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/cupe-translink-metro-vancouver-bus-seabus-strike-ultimatum
TOS'd
01-18-2024, 07:58 PM
lol my favourite part of that ad
"Renewal by Anderson makes windows that are custom designed to fit your specific window opening"
Like you stupid motherfucker that's using 15 extra words to say window.
I'd like to see your menu descriptions :troll:
westopher
01-18-2024, 08:29 PM
"Charred octopus, pickled beet borani"
Let me know where I can cut some words out of that 20+ ingredient dish there chef.
donk.
01-18-2024, 09:03 PM
PJSalt
Razor Ramon HG
01-18-2024, 09:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/qJU1qXI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3nVuz7H.png
So I just found out there used to be a prison in Burnaby where my friend used to live.
https://globalnews.ca/video/5221954/a-brief-history-of-oakalla-prison
Called Oakalla Prison, it was located in the middle of where present day Oakmount Crescent is. Opened in 1912 and closed in 1991. Over 44 prisoners executed. A riot and escape in the 80s.
I know most of RS was probably too young, but anyone remember it?
EvoFire
01-18-2024, 09:36 PM
Wow, I used to just live down the road
Razor Ramon HG
01-18-2024, 09:48 PM
Yeah, a lot of the houses there now were built between 1994 to 1998 from comparing cross-referencing satellite imagery and BC Assessment information.
https://burnaby.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=9c64867c9aaa431fb281d6976e2b47dc
I feel like a lot of people that live there now or have lived there didn't know either. My friend sure didn't, lol.
headhunt3r
01-18-2024, 10:20 PM
How much is a basic window replacement for a whole house?
6793026
01-19-2024, 04:09 AM
^ before you do it, make sure you apply for the canada grant amount however, it's very minimal. what are you thinking doing.
we thought about windows 15-20k, we decided to spray foam the home instead.
westopher
01-19-2024, 05:12 AM
PJSalt
That's the secret ingredient
SSM_DC5
01-19-2024, 05:33 AM
Looking for recommendations for window replacements.
Looking to do the whole house.
Centra? Lifelong? West Coast Windows?
If I recall correctly, someone's wife on here works in the window industry.
Great68
01-19-2024, 06:28 AM
Probably thinking of me. She used to, left that 2 years ago. Her shop made heritage style wooden windows (Vintage Woodworks).
Not a lot of crossover with the companies that do the composite/vinyl stuff.
Primary clientele was designated heritage buildings (IE: They did a lot of buildings in Gastown, houses in Shaugnessey), or people with heritage style houses and bags and bags of money who were set on keeping the original look.
Badhobz
01-19-2024, 07:25 AM
I dont know where this goes, so ill just put it here. I saw this on the LC lexus forum and holy shit is that ever brilliant. Put a ziplock bag around the oil filter and then wrench off and you get no mess!!!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/1297x975/img_2273_8ae2fa99862e8a90f73dfe48b37939b3759756fc. jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/1297x975/img_2276_c93cd7bf8083835e0bd18bdac57773cd32b90add. jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/1297x975/img_2277_3da4763f7519887c878f8e8724d809fbb7caacb5. jpeg
68style
01-19-2024, 08:06 AM
Well that kind of takes the drama away from seeing how quickly I can pull the filter off and drop it while oil pours all over my hand... extra exciting fit he car was running recently.
bcrdukes
01-19-2024, 08:10 AM
RIP Ziplock bag
headhunt3r
01-19-2024, 08:29 AM
Forbidden marinade.
I just crack mine open over the oil pan, let oil drain out, then remove completely. Minimal mess, and my drain plug is close enough that they both drain into the pan at the same time.
Badhobz
01-19-2024, 08:36 AM
because of my stupid ramps, itll drip onto that cross bar which is annoying to clean up. This seems brilliant to me!
underscore
01-19-2024, 08:52 AM
"Charred octopus, pickled beet borani"
Let me know where I can cut some words out of that 20+ ingredient dish there chef.
"food"
done.
Gerbs
01-19-2024, 10:38 AM
Having this convo with a friend, when do you guys think you can afford a car?
- Have the cash?
- 20/10/4 rule?
- Specific net worth?
- Certain Income?
- Yolo?
They got gifted a fat DP for their wedding on a $800K condo. He wants to buy a Datsun 240z but thinks he doesn't have enough.
- 5x the price saved
- Dual income
- No kids
- No debt, all current cars paid for
- SWE in FAANG compensation
I argued if you don't buy it soon, you'll probably never buy one or end up with it in your 50's to 60's. Plus the $40K you pay today, you'll get $40K when you're done with it and sell it. The repairs and maintenance will be your cost to play.
bcrdukes
01-19-2024, 10:43 AM
Damn, $40K is a lot for a 240z, but like you said, YOLO.
In this case, I would YOLO. Whether they will get $40K when they sell it is a different story, but at least you drove the car (at least we hope he will.)
Pre sure the Datsun for sale is owned by an OG RS member who pops in here occasionally unless it's changed hands since. He painted it with a paint roller IIRC?
68style
01-19-2024, 10:51 AM
Cars like that don't lose value unless you fuck with them a lot and in a bad way... so it's pretty safe $ wise.
Bad bet purely from a financial perspective would be buying a brand new car.
I dunno what he's worried about, basically just holding his $ in an object rather than in a bank account or some kind of investment. Actual cost to him is close to nil.
Badhobz
01-19-2024, 10:57 AM
the only downside is you pretty much shouldnt drive it considering how old it is.
If you did, or it gets into an accident you....
1) die due to the shitty safety
2) diminish its value so much that youre upside down
3) start replacing parts that are not period correct and thus make it undesirable
Its cool in concept, owning it is another deal
68style
01-19-2024, 11:01 AM
I would say 240Z is in a camp of classics that you CAN go a bit off the wall mods wise and still be okay... so many JDM and restomod options... it just has to be TASTEFUL and professionally done hahaha
underscore
01-19-2024, 11:38 AM
Has he already bought the condo? Does it actually have space for a project car?
bcrdukes
01-19-2024, 12:09 PM
Has he already bought the condo? Does it actually have space for a project car?
Ditto on the storage space. When you have a desirable restomod or what-have-you, leaving it out in the open attracts the wrong attention and it's risk and exposure you have to deal with.
But if you're baller, then I guess it's a non-issue.
Gerbs
01-19-2024, 12:56 PM
Has he already bought the condo? Does it actually have space for a project car?
Ya bought a condo with the wife, late 20's, has 4 garage spots at parents. 1 Spot at the condo for the daily driver, 2nd spot rented for the fun car.
Now that you mention it, older cars you probably wanna leave in a garage while it mostly sits vs leaving it in the condo. But he'd be buying a running condition one for $35-40K.
westopher
01-19-2024, 01:51 PM
Are you saying he has 200k in savings? Can't decide if he can afford the 40k car?
Fucking do it man. You can't take it with you. Unless he NEEDS a bigger place soon or believes he does that really isn't a dent that matters IMO.
underscore
01-19-2024, 02:18 PM
Then he should buy it. Store it at the parents for the winter, keep it at the condo and drive it as much as possible in the summer. Life is too short to drive boring cars any more than is absolutely necessary.
don't buy a classic car when you live in a condo unless you got 2 parking spots and a place you can work on it
fucking building managers will get so horny over oil stains, they are going to bukkake your classic car with notices and dollar store tape
Gerbs
01-19-2024, 02:30 PM
Are you saying he has 200k in savings? Can't decide if he can afford the 40k car?
Fucking do it man. You can't take it with you. Unless he NEEDS a bigger place soon or believes he does that really isn't a dent that matters IMO.
That's what I said. I'm planning to do the fun2drive japan tour with the 964 turbo and R34 GTR. He's thinking about it due to cost $200-400.
It's odd to see how everyone is so unwillingly to spend on experiences and fun stuff, despite having the means to. Been trying to help them try to be less boring and take their money to the grave.
Hondaracer
01-19-2024, 02:35 PM
Go spend 5k of that money at exotics racing in Vegas and you’ll never consider buying a “fun” car again lol.. or at least that’s what happened to me
After driving Aventador, 458, GTR, I was like lol.. there will never be a car I could ever afford that would provide any thrill. And yea I get the argument you don’t need HP to have fun, but I’d wayyyy rather go on a crazy trip, or go golf some crazy courses than buy a miata and pretend it makes me happy lol
If money truly wasn’t an issue and I could get into a newer Z06 etc. somthing like that would be ideal as it could be a daily as well. But my days of ever wanting a project car or a weekend car died the day I took all these exotics out and was like ok.. ecen this isn’t as crazy as I expected lol
AstulzerRZD
01-19-2024, 02:44 PM
Go spend 5k of that money at exotics racing in Vegas and you’ll never consider buying a “fun” car again lol.. or at least that’s what happened to me
After driving Aventador, 458, GTR, I was like lol.. there will never be a car I could ever afford that would provide any thrill.
sortttaaaa true.
Getting back into the Scat Pack/S2000 daily still scared and excited me a ton. Other than that, it's straight into a 458 or Performante.
Literally everything else has lost its luster though (including the 981 GTS, 991 GT3 which I had kinda planned to get)
That 5k at Exotics Racing saved me so much sales tax and disappointment
AstulzerRZD
01-19-2024, 02:50 PM
Having this convo with a friend, when do you guys think you can afford a car?
- Have the cash?
- 20/10/4 rule?
- Specific net worth?
- Certain Income?
- Yolo?
They got gifted a fat DP for their wedding on a $800K condo. He wants to buy a Datsun 240z but thinks he doesn't have enough.
- 5x the price saved
- Dual income
- No kids
- No debt, all current cars paid for
- SWE in FAANG compensation
I argued if you don't buy it soon, you'll probably never buy one or end up with it in your 50's to 60's. Plus the $40K you pay today, you'll get $40K when you're done with it and sell it. The repairs and maintenance will be your cost to play.
When my total transportation cost is less than 10% of my annual income.
The S2k was 15% and that felt like a lot.
The one thing that helps me is the super cheap leases in the states.
E Tron GT RS leasing for $650 puts it at like 8k + insurance a year, so 140k income isn't unreasonable
westopher
01-19-2024, 04:38 PM
Someone with 500k in the bank that won't enjoy themselves is far less wealthy than the guy with 30k in the bank that does everything he wants to do.
SkinnyPupp
01-19-2024, 04:42 PM
The parents with a 4 car garage and paying for their son's condo probably don't do things like that. If they sacrificed their lives to give him that ability, why not take advantage?
Razor Ramon HG
01-19-2024, 04:47 PM
I'm in the "YOLO, never know when you'll get hit by a car or get diagnosed with cancer" gang.
supafamous
01-19-2024, 05:49 PM
https://www.autotrader.ca/a/acura/nsx/woodbridge/ontario/5_61065535_20120201164434495/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&ursrc=hl&orup=8_15_17&pc=V5H%202N7&sprx=-1&modalXS=1
Not really a good buy so putting it here. What a beauty of a NSX - that interior colour combo is giving me a boner.
https://tdrpmimages.azureedge.net/photos/import/202401/0610/2052/8dc5957f-97cf-4356-ad36-aba0e534a3c6.jpg-1024x786
donk.
01-19-2024, 06:10 PM
Having this convo with a friend, when do you guys think you can afford a car? .
When ive saved the total price, plus insurance and tax to be bought outright
Although if an nsx popped up in the spec that i want, id blow a heloc on it, and then sell the c7 to pay off the heloc
YORO
underscore
01-20-2024, 06:51 PM
How do you guys really deep clean an older windshield? I can't see shit at night in my car and looking closely it has a bunch of little spots on it that I can't get off with regular window cleaner wipes. I tried the razoe blade thing but that didn't seem to pick anything up.
donk.
01-20-2024, 07:48 PM
Are you sure its not physical "speckle"
Buy a new windshield.
My 93 prelude years back had that sand "speckle" from age, eventually got a crack, replaced the windshield for 300$.
The difference in new vs old glass was massive, its like looking through 720p vs 4k.
If the above is too pricey, apparently there is also a glass restoration kit you can buy, make sure you test it on a smaller section first tho. And look through it in all condition before doing the whole windshield.
sonick
01-20-2024, 08:20 PM
How do you guys really deep clean an older windshield? I can't see shit at night in my car and looking closely it has a bunch of little spots on it that I can't get off with regular window cleaner wipes. I tried the razoe blade thing but that didn't seem to pick anything up.
If it's built up shit on the glass, get a glass polish compound to strip out the build up of rainx and other shit to the bare glass
Make sure it's a polish with an abrasive to really strip the glass of the layers of dirt and product..
headhunt3r
01-20-2024, 09:17 PM
Before applying aquaoek I'll use Invisible Glass Glass Stripper and lots of elbow grease. It's abrasive and should remove most things. You could also try an aggressive clay bar? Make sure you clean the inside as well with your choice if glass cleaner. A thin layer of oil usually develops over time and makes things blurry.
Gerbs
01-20-2024, 11:06 PM
The parents with a 4 car garage and paying for their son's condo probably don't do things like that. If they sacrificed their lives to give him that ability, why not take advantage?
I think folks who get inheritance are from parents who were good at saving.
So the entire family tree is unable to spend. It's actually crazy how widespread this is as everyone is nearing 30's.
Top 1-8% of income/wealth but spend like the 50%. Not that it's a bad thing but it's time to start checking off experiences you wanna do!
Gerbs
01-20-2024, 11:07 PM
When ive saved the total price, plus insurance and tax to be bought outright
Although if an nsx popped up in the spec that i want, id blow a heloc on it, and then sell the c7 to pay off the heloc
YORO
So if you have $130K in TFSA + 6 months emergency fund, that's a green light to buy a GT4 soon :ilied:
snowball
01-20-2024, 11:51 PM
Before applying aquaoek I'll use Invisible Glass Glass Stripper and lots of elbow grease. It's abrasive and should remove most things. You could also try an aggressive clay bar? Make sure you clean the inside as well with your choice if glass cleaner. A thin layer of oil usually develops over time and makes things blurry.
Glass stripper is the way
donk.
01-21-2024, 12:11 AM
So if you have $130K in TFSA + 6 months emergency fund, that's a green light to buy a GT4 soon :ilied:
You would disappoint me if that 130k stayed in the bank for the next 30 years :troll: :suspicious:
The tfsa can be utilized two ways.....
Retirement when you cant fit in a gt4 because your joints are failing
Or.......
30 years earlier, enjoyed for x-xx years on that gt4, and if your lucky the cars value will keep up with inflation even with increased milage. THEN you sell it and use it as a "tfsagt4"
Every time i look at my rrsp, i want to pay the tax on it, and put it to use on my next RE purchase, or do the irresponsible and put it towards a priceless purchase of a G̶t̶4̶ nsx
Edit:
I wish our licence plates could be 7 digits, tfsagt4 or rrspnsx would be a sick licence plate lol
RRSPC7
TFSAC7
:suspicious::badpokerface::drunk:
underscore
01-21-2024, 07:23 AM
Are you sure its not physical "speckle"
I was able to scrub most of the spots off the outside and residue off the inside and now you can see all the fine pitting and scratches. I'll see how it is but odds are I just need a new one. Fingers crossed they still make them.
Blueboy222
01-21-2024, 02:01 PM
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whitev70r
01-21-2024, 02:05 PM
5-30 ... my 2 cents.
bcrdukes
01-21-2024, 03:59 PM
0W20
Badhobz
01-21-2024, 04:45 PM
0W-20 or 5W-30 for toyota engine in vancouver weather?
Whatever is on the oil cap. If both then go 0-20 as thats more inline with our temps.
bcrdukes
01-21-2024, 08:27 PM
I cannot wait for when we start seeing questions on this when Toyota's show up here requiring 0W16 :D
roastpuff
01-21-2024, 08:32 PM
Or go 0W30, hit both low and high.
I cannot wait for when we start seeing questions on this when Toyota's show up here requiring 0W16 :D
They already do, the new Prius etc. I'm waiting for the 0W8 stuff to show up haha.
headhunt3r
01-21-2024, 09:25 PM
I cannot wait for when we start seeing questions on this when Toyota's show up here requiring 0W16 :D
I'll bite. That's what mine requires. I've been buying Mobil1 oil of the recommended viscosity. Should I not bother?
whitev70r
01-21-2024, 09:41 PM
what is the over under for a bus strike tomorrow ... ?
bcrdukes
01-21-2024, 10:05 PM
I just use what's recommended, or whatever the manual or Toyota service bulletins recommend until otherwise.
I'm ghetto, so after my car's warranty was over, I just use Motomaster or Walmart Super Tech 0W20 and change oil once every 6 months. :D
Edit: I forgot about Toyota 0W8 on their new cars. Can't wait for that when I get the Toyota Crown :troll:
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