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Badhobz
07-19-2023, 09:55 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/8kRkN9Bh/IMG-0089.png

This is what they make currently and we offered 10% increase over 3 years but still rejected.

tegra7
07-19-2023, 09:58 AM
They don’t care about legalities. Some of their top dudes are full patch hells angel members so law abiding isn’t really part of the vernacular. Even if they get legislated back to work they’ll do it at a snails pace and our gateway will suffer the consequences.

They hold all the cards. Even if we fire them, they don’t care it’ll take years to go through grievances

How do these guys pass criminal record search?

MarkyMark
07-19-2023, 10:00 AM
How do these guys pass criminal record search?

I don't think they even did criminal record checks until the last hiring like 4 years ago when someone got shot at the training facility

Maybe Badhobz can open up about what BCMEAs profits have been the last few years even with paying these wages

Badhobz
07-19-2023, 10:02 AM
Once you’re in, you’re in. They don’t check records every year only when you first apply.

They get their kids in at 18 and then whatever they do afterwards they still have their ticket.

Badhobz
07-19-2023, 10:04 AM
Oh trust me the bcmea are the same bullshit. For a non profit they take so much money it’s ridiculous.. you should see the stupid spending they do. Nobody’s hands are clean here. The whole industry is s clusterfuck of greed and corruption.

Badhobz
07-19-2023, 10:18 AM
So union just served us 72h strike notice. So they’ll be back on strike July 22nd. Awesome !

yray
07-19-2023, 11:45 AM
LOL aren't these the same rates as 10 years ago, I remember longshoremen making $50/hr when I was at canada place.

MarkyMark
07-19-2023, 11:56 AM
LOL aren't these the same rates as 10 years ago, I remember longshoremen making $50/hr when I was at canada place.

$50 10+ years ago was probably for afternoons or graveyard shift

tegra7
07-19-2023, 12:32 PM
Fatal crash at Hastings and Willingdon this morning.
https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/police-investigating-serious-early-morning-crash-in-burnaby-7297083

68style
07-19-2023, 01:03 PM
Ugly, there's video of the crash

Supra was making a left turn with advance green, police car is stopped on the other side of the intersection so you know the Supra was probably taking it easy as to not draw attention and some jacked up dually truck blows by the police car through the red at way over 100km/h and just annihilates the Supra... female passenger got killed.

SkinnyPupp
07-19-2023, 02:54 PM
You guys ever drive by a car accident where you can see the body? That happened to me last week. It must have happened 5 or 10 minutes before I drove by, as cops were there, no paramedics weren't. They were controlling traffic, and there was a dead body lying face down in the street by them. Only one car so I wonder if it was a pedestrian... Pretty haunting image, but I couldn't turn away.

radeonboy
07-19-2023, 03:05 PM
You guys ever drive by a car accident where you can see the body? That happened to me last week. It must have happened 5 or 10 minutes before I drove by, as cops were there, no paramedics weren't. They were controlling traffic, and there was a dead body lying face down in the street by them. Only one car so I wonder if it was a pedestrian... Pretty haunting image, but I couldn't turn away.

Not the actual body but I remember driving by a motorcycle accident near Main / Terminal where a tarp was placed in the middle of the street. Very humbling to witness knowing that the victim wasn't expecting to die that day.

I've also witnessed someone passing away in end-of-life care. This was a different experience because everyone was more mentally prepared, but it was still uncomfortable to hear the silence that followed a final louder gasp.

whitev70r
07-19-2023, 03:18 PM
For most people ... have you ever seen a dead body? I mean if you're in healthcare ... of course. Even for nurses, the first time ... it is very jarring and emotionally disturbing. Most people have not ... unless grandpa or grandma died and there was open casket. Nowadays, it's mostly cremation so even less so.

Hondaracer
07-19-2023, 03:26 PM
Saw my grandpa dead in the hospital as a thing I guess to see them before they get cremated. That’s the point where it really solidified the idea to me that a body is just a vessel and that body isn’t really that person you knew any longer.

When I was a kid though I remember we were camping at Tunkwa lake and a couple went to sleep in their tent with a propane heater inside. When we woke up in the morning they had obviously suffocated and whoever discovered them were doing CPR lole 60 feet away from
Where we were. Both ended up dieing and basically laying their dead until the amp finally showed up. That was kinda jarring

Badhobz
07-19-2023, 03:32 PM
Well this turned very depressing. Thanks a lot guys.

MG1
07-19-2023, 03:35 PM
I was in the hospital to witness two of my aunts take their last breath. I was holding hands with one of them when it was time. Then my wife. I got a call early afternoon when I was in Bellingham shopping with my youngest son. I arrived at the hospice within the hour. It was something I will never forget. Everyone left the room so I could be alone with her.......................

Great68
07-19-2023, 03:42 PM
A bunch of years ago, I was following an ambulance up the Malahat when it stopped just near the split rock viewpoint. These was a motorcycle on the ground, a tarp a dozen or so feet away with some legs and boots sticking out from it, and an RCMP officer doing active CPR on another person.

Turns out some dude stole a car in North Van, took the Nanaimo ferry over, drove down the island until he decided to make an illegal left turn into the rest stop, right in front of a motorcyclist with a rider on the back. He ran somewhere into the bush and they didn't find him until the next day when he turned himself in.

roastpuff
07-19-2023, 03:53 PM
Hey MG1, glad to see you still around. We were wondering where you went!

SkinnyPupp
07-19-2023, 03:59 PM
Yeah MG1 I thought of you when watching some CFL... Even posted about it in the last year Lions thread!

EvoFire
07-19-2023, 04:19 PM
I was in the hospital to witness two of my aunts take their last breath. I was holding hands with one of them when it was time. Then my wife. I got a call early afternoon when I was in Bellingham shopping with my youngest son. I arrived at the hospice within the hour. It was something I will never forget. Everyone left the room so I could be alone with her.......................

Hey great to see you back. You haven't posted in awhile and we were getting worried.

MG1
07-19-2023, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I was in a pretty dark place for a while. I was dealing with all kinds of issues. I've never been so depressed, angry, all kinds of bad. Had to clear my head and concentrate on being a better person. I'm getting back on track. Better to light a candle than curse the darkness. Never have those words meant so much.


Thanks to those RS members who reached out via calls and messages.

Badhobz
07-20-2023, 05:01 AM
If you ever wanna grab a bite to eat somewhere old man, let me know. Ill gladly take you out for a meal. That goes for the rest of you guys too.

unit
07-20-2023, 07:20 AM
i've been pretty bummed out lately, i think only a tasting menu at st. lawrence with all the supplementals can get me out of this hole

whitev70r
07-20-2023, 07:33 AM
I've also been feeling a bit down .... I've never been to that Peking Duck place on Cambie and 12th.

Badhobz
07-20-2023, 07:57 AM
ill be feeling down after paying that bill. i had that dumb duck at cambie and 12th. 150 bucks for a stinking duck.... completely overrated.

StylinRed
07-20-2023, 08:13 AM
I've also been feeling a bit down .... I've never been to that Peking Duck place on Cambie and 12th.

Was going to say it's not worth it at all but hobz beat me to it
Speaking o which even t&t bbq duck isn't worth it, hasn't been crispy in years and they keep jacking the price up :okay:

whitev70r
07-20-2023, 08:22 AM
Yah, the Avian flu hit the duck market ... the prices went sky high. ~$50 per duck at the avg BBQ shop! Even without that ... I agree. Went to a fancy one on West Broadway a few yrs ago and it was like >$100 and I thought it wasn't worth it at that price.

roastpuff
07-20-2023, 08:23 AM
DIY roast duck isn't too bad in terms of prep/work. I've been experimenting with making my own - my char siu and siu yuk is pretty good, still working on the duck. My FIL makes pretty good home made roast duck.

Hakkaboy
07-20-2023, 08:46 AM
i know you can probably make it in an oven but I'm been eyeing kamado style BBQs and trying to justify the cost.

This is one of the videos that I'm trying to do that in...and the other is smoked brisket. Sure pizza too, but damn they are expensive...and heavy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkmfexn8va8

yray
07-20-2023, 11:15 AM
goose is king

GLOW
07-20-2023, 11:20 AM
i'm picturing yray hunting protected animals :lol

donk.
07-20-2023, 11:48 AM
Mmmmmm flog legs on the BBQ

roastpuff
07-20-2023, 11:51 AM
i'm picturing yray hunting protected animals :lol

Canadian geese/snow geese are not protected. You can in fact hunt them. Though I have heard the ones down here taste like crap because they eat garbage.

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/migratory-game-bird-hunting/regulations-provincial-territorial-summaries/british-columbia.html#toc10

MG1
07-20-2023, 11:59 AM
Trudeau made a promise to remove all fish farms out of our waters. Pretty important stuff. Justin needs to be more like his father and fight for our environment. Pierre enjoyed the outdoors. Loved being out on the water and its wildlife. He'd be so pissed off at his son right now The longer the open pen farms are out there, the more damage to the wild stocks. .

https://www.safesalmon.ca/call_the_pm?mc_cid=93f8eeb717&mc_eid=f391d3c7d9

68style
07-20-2023, 12:04 PM
Those people have NO idea how much work goes on at Fisheries and Oceans protecting habitats.

Look up Big Bar if you get a chance.

Trudeau is an avid hiker/outdoor person as well, remember everyone shitting on him for going to Tofino lol

underscore
07-20-2023, 12:14 PM
Canadian geese/snow geese are not protected. You can in fact hunt them. Though I have heard the ones down here taste like crap because they eat garbage.

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/migratory-game-bird-hunting/regulations-provincial-territorial-summaries/british-columbia.html#toc10

Yeah but what if you miss and just make it even angrier?

roastpuff
07-20-2023, 12:17 PM
Yeah but what if you miss and just make it even angrier?

That's why magazine-fed, semi-automatic assault shotguns should not be banned. We need to defend ourselves against these geese!

Hondaracer
07-20-2023, 12:29 PM
Trudeau made a promise to remove all fish farms out of our waters. Pretty important stuff. Justin needs to be more like his father and fight for our environment. Pierre enjoyed the outdoors. Loved being out on the water and its wildlife. He'd be so pissed off at his son right now The longer the open pen farms are out there, the more damage to the wild stocks. .

https://www.safesalmon.ca/call_the_pm?mc_cid=93f8eeb717&mc_eid=f391d3c7d9

When we were just up the coast we saw a tug towing a MASSIVE structure up past Powell river, it was like the side of a cruise ship

Turned out to be a floating warehouse for a fish farm. Unfortunately seems like there is very little progress on them.

68style
07-20-2023, 01:23 PM
i've been pretty bummed out lately, i think only a tasting menu at st. lawrence with all the supplementals can get me out of this hole

I've also been feeling a bit down .... I've never been to that Peking Duck place on Cambie and 12th.

RS giving off those Jimbo Jones "I can't believe it, now even my pants are chafin' me" vibes

https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/51426635-7b7a9a6c56d34bdef73ee4b1eb2318f8bc8fae617be8560a80 d1ca3477fc1d17-d

underscore
07-20-2023, 02:35 PM
That's why magazine-fed, semi-automatic assault shotguns should not be banned. We need to defend ourselves against these geese!

History has shown us how that'll go :lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

Badhobz
07-20-2023, 05:25 PM
maybe next meat, we bring food and have a potluck / bbq / extravaganza!!!!

I make a pretty mean ass pho

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i wonder if we can do a tailgate party, but with a bunch of rice ass cars?

https://www.tasteofhome.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/PG_TOHAS19_33834_E05_31_10b.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/0c/67/cd/0c67cd9a4fd3b472e921132e29f76f81.jpg

SkinnyPupp
07-20-2023, 05:28 PM
goose is king
Is goose not popular in Canada? Over here you'd have to go searching for duck at roast meat restaurants; everyone just serves roast goose now (market stalls still sell duck, some both). When I first moved here it wasn't like that outside Sham Tseng LUL

And yes, goose is so much better

bcrdukes
07-20-2023, 05:39 PM
Quality of goose is not as good as compared to those in Asia.

SkinnyPupp
07-20-2023, 05:51 PM
Quality of goose is not as good as compared to those in Asia.
Might be a good opportunity to start a goose farm!

punkwax
07-20-2023, 06:23 PM
Maverick’s Goose Farm

Badhobz
07-20-2023, 06:49 PM
^hahaahh I’m dying. Great balls of fire.

Razor Ramon HG
07-20-2023, 07:20 PM
Anyone have experiences with the Best Massage and Osaki massage chairs at Costco?

GLOW
07-20-2023, 08:14 PM
Canadian geese/snow geese are not protected. You can in fact hunt them. Though I have heard the ones down here taste like crap because they eat garbage.

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/migratory-game-bird-hunting/regulations-provincial-territorial-summaries/british-columbia.html#toc10

woah so those sitting ducks at BCIT are open season :ilied::troll::ahwow:Kappa

yray
07-20-2023, 08:28 PM
and you can't get the rosewood charcoal flavor here

well you could, but it won't be charcoal roasted like sum tsang

PeanutButter
07-20-2023, 09:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNdkTxYAPkI&ab_channel=HockeyPsychology

I love it when these types of video's pop up in my recommend.

2010 Golden Goal - Broken Play Breakdown.

underscore
07-20-2023, 10:11 PM
woah so those sitting ducks at BCIT are open season :ilied::troll::ahwow:Kappa

When my dad went to BCIT back in the day apparently one of his classmates caught and ate one lol.

Razor Ramon HG
07-21-2023, 01:47 AM
Best place to park downtown? Got wedding and dinner at Hotel Georgia, so probably staying downtown for several hours starting at 4.

Badhobz
07-21-2023, 03:34 AM
Valet it at fairmont hotel Vancouver. You pay whatever you want. I usually give the guy 20 to 30 bucks and it works out cheaper than most lots. I believe the four seasons is the same as well

On weekends holt renfrew has a special for 14 bucks all day

sonick
07-21-2023, 05:39 AM
Best place to park downtown? Got wedding and dinner at Hotel Georgia, so probably staying downtown for several hours starting at 4.

Not fancy like hobz I usually park at the lot under the law courts/UBC. Entrance right off Howe.

bcrdukes
07-21-2023, 05:57 AM
Best place to park downtown? Got wedding and dinner at Hotel Georgia, so probably staying downtown for several hours starting at 4.

When is the wedding? Could there be reserved parking or special rates for guests at the hotel?

supafamous
07-21-2023, 06:10 AM
Best place to park downtown? Got wedding and dinner at Hotel Georgia, so probably staying downtown for several hours starting at 4.

Why not just valet it at the hotel? Last time I went there they parked my TSX out front next to an R8 and a Bentley. LOL.

GLOW
07-21-2023, 07:23 AM
When my dad went to BCIT back in the day apparently one of his classmates caught and ate one lol.

heard a similar story, wonder if your dad and his classmate were classmates of mine :lol

unit
07-21-2023, 07:46 AM
gross... i even find that store bought ducks taste fishy, even from reputable farms like fraser valley. tried to cook it a few times and it didnt taste appetizing. im sure westopher would have better insight about this.

pastarocket
07-21-2023, 07:55 AM
-gonna be a busy weekend of traffic delays for fans of Taylor Swift and the Blue Jays in Washington state haha:

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68style
07-21-2023, 10:40 AM
That OF teacher that got fired is in a new…. ‘Music’ video… that couldn’t possibly be more cringe.

https://youtu.be/ENFwJK_oIEU

I don’t feel bad for her anymore lol

Badhobz
07-21-2023, 11:02 AM
Wowowowow so much plastic.

donk.
07-21-2023, 11:04 AM
Are those bolt-ons?

I would also like to be her only-faaaaaan

unit
07-21-2023, 11:09 AM
anyone else notice how much extended medical practitioners are charging these days? i still see some that are reasonable, like $110-120/hr for an RMT, but some are charging like $180/hr now? i know most ppl have benefits that pay for this, but when your benefits cover like $500 for each type of practitioner, $500 wouldn't even get you three 1hr massages anymore.

mikemhg
07-21-2023, 12:00 PM
Trudeau made a promise to remove all fish farms out of our waters. Pretty important stuff. Justin needs to be more like his father and fight for our environment. Pierre enjoyed the outdoors. Loved being out on the water and its wildlife. He'd be so pissed off at his son right now The longer the open pen farms are out there, the more damage to the wild stocks. .

https://www.safesalmon.ca/call_the_pm?mc_cid=93f8eeb717&mc_eid=f391d3c7d9

He won't do shit. Companies like Grieg Seafood lobby and employ quite a number of people in places like Campbell River and Gold River, his feckless ass won't stop a thing.

GS8
07-21-2023, 12:08 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/growing-number-of-millennial-gen-z-women-are-childless-by-choice/

Any RS'ers in this camp?

Hondaracer
07-21-2023, 12:26 PM
anyone else notice how much extended medical practitioners are charging these days? i still see some that are reasonable, like $110-120/hr for an RMT, but some are charging like $180/hr now? i know most ppl have benefits that pay for this, but when your benefits cover like $500 for each type of practitioner, $500 wouldn't even get you three 1hr massages anymore.

I pay $130 an hour, my benefits cover up to $1800 in RMT alone though and it’s 100% reimbursement

I’ve been to 2-3 massage places in the last 5-6 years and I think they were all $130

Badhobz
07-21-2023, 12:58 PM
I’ve been to 2-3 massage places in the last 5-6 years and I think they were all $130
:ifyouknow::ifyouknow: quite the discount you got :ifyouknow: :ifyouknow:

Are those bolt-ons?

thanks donk, now i have to friggin clean up my keyboard.

BIC_BAWS
07-21-2023, 01:07 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/growing-number-of-millennial-gen-z-women-are-childless-by-choice/

Any RS'ers in this camp?

I'm 26 in a few weeks. I know women are going to ask me this question frequently on dates. It's not a simple answer. It depends on if we can afford it AND provide the child with a childhood that doesn't show struggle. As I reference previously, I grew up in BC Housing and for a decent part of my childhood we got our groceries at the food bank. I don't tend to celebrate holidays or my birthday, but I think that's because growing up, we didn't have money to celebrate it. For Christmas, we'd go to the Richmond Christmas Fund. We never did dinners or have people over, because once again, we couldn't afford it. I don't want my kids to experience that, so the only way I would be willing to have kids is if I can guarantee that they won't have to live a childhood of feeling like we're too poor to live / feeling like a waste of space because the family doesn't have enough money so as a child I feel like a parasite.

AND on the other token, I don't know how I can be delicate around a child. Most of my peers, professionally and personally, know that I don't beat around the bush and I tell it how it is.

Today, I had an employee make a complaint because someone (probably me) hurt his feelings (LOL). Two days ago, I told him, "hey I appreciate your hard work but I found these mistakes, can you please be more mindful of it." He did seem like he took it a little too personally so I gave him some space, but I checked in on him at the end of the day and apologized if I was too harsh. He said that he's fine it's just the project that's stressful but "you're all good".

Anyway, point being is that, I don't have the patience to tip toe around someone in their mid-30s let alone a real child lol.

Presto
07-21-2023, 01:08 PM
anyone else notice how much extended medical practitioners are charging these days? i still see some that are reasonable, like $110-120/hr for an RMT, but some are charging like $180/hr now? i know most ppl have benefits that pay for this, but when your benefits cover like $500 for each type of practitioner, $500 wouldn't even get you three 1hr massages anymore.

Speaking of benefits, it's quite an area for abuse. I had to get a CPAP machine, and the place (Mainland Sleep) I did my sleep study wanted $2500 for a CPAP kit. My shit extended insurance only covered $1000. They were able to bring the price down to $1800, but that still meant paying $800 out of pocket.

I was able to get 100% covered by checking out a different places, and ended up getting the exact same setup for a fraction of the cost. Shop around!

Hondaracer
07-21-2023, 01:19 PM
36 year old my wife is 37, no kids for us ever was pretty clear from the beginning.

Among our friend group we might be a couple that could most afford it and even then I feel like we would be pretty miserable if we did have a kid with our finances so can’t imagine how stressful it is to be scraping by and trying to support a kid(s)

StylinRed
07-21-2023, 01:38 PM
Yah, the Avian flu hit the duck market ... the prices went sky high. ~$50 per duck at the avg BBQ shop! Even without that ... I agree. Went to a fancy one on West Broadway a few yrs ago and it was like >$100 and I thought it wasn't worth it at that price.

Naw don't fall for their bs, the price of their salty duck and soy sauce duck didn't go up at all, not even their raw duck, only their bbq duck went up :QQ:

It's just like their bs with lychees trying to charge $40+/kg finally ppl smartened up and wouldn't buy it and suddenly the price gets dropped down to normal again

whitev70r
07-21-2023, 01:40 PM
But even at Superstore, I used to be able to get a frozen duck for like $18 on sale ... now it's like $25-30!

radeonboy
07-21-2023, 01:46 PM
I'm 26 in a few weeks. I know women are going to ask me this question frequently on dates. It's not a simple answer. It depends on if we can afford it AND provide the child with a childhood that doesn't show struggle. As I reference previously, I grew up in BC Housing and for a decent part of my childhood we got our groceries at the food bank. I don't tend to celebrate holidays or my birthday, but I think that's because growing up, we didn't have money to celebrate it. For Christmas, we'd go to the Richmond Christmas Fund. We never did dinners or have people over, because once again, we couldn't afford it. I don't want my kids to experience that, so the only way I would be willing to have kids is if I can guarantee that they won't have to live a childhood of feeling like we're too poor to live / feeling like a waste of space because the family doesn't have enough money so as a child I feel like a parasite.

AND on the other token, I don't know how I can be delicate around a child. Most of my peers, professionally and personally, know that I don't beat around the bush and I tell it how it is.

Today, I had an employee make a complaint because someone (probably me) hurt his feelings (LOL). Two days ago, I told him, "hey I appreciate your hard work but I found these mistakes, can you please be more mindful of it." He did seem like he took it a little too personally so I gave him some space, but I checked in on him at the end of the day and apologized if I was too harsh. He said that he's fine it's just the project that's stressful but "you're all good".

Anyway, point being is that, I don't have the patience to tip toe around someone in their mid-30s let alone a real child lol.

I'm not a parent, but your concern with all these factors gives me the impression you'll be great as a father (if you choose to be one). Maybe your concerns will ease up when you move farther in your career + seeing your friends get married with their own kids.

Gumby
07-21-2023, 02:27 PM
I'm 26 in a few weeks. I know women are going to ask me this question frequently on dates. It's not a simple answer. It depends on if we can afford it AND provide the child with a childhood that doesn't show struggle. As I reference previously, I grew up in BC Housing and for a decent part of my childhood we got our groceries at the food bank. I don't tend to celebrate holidays or my birthday, but I think that's because growing up, we didn't have money to celebrate it. For Christmas, we'd go to the Richmond Christmas Fund. We never did dinners or have people over, because once again, we couldn't afford it. I don't want my kids to experience that, so the only way I would be willing to have kids is if I can guarantee that they won't have to live a childhood of feeling like we're too poor to live / feeling like a waste of space because the family doesn't have enough money so as a child I feel like a parasite.

AND on the other token, I don't know how I can be delicate around a child. Most of my peers, professionally and personally, know that I don't beat around the bush and I tell it how it is.

Today, I had an employee make a complaint because someone (probably me) hurt his feelings (LOL). Two days ago, I told him, "hey I appreciate your hard work but I found these mistakes, can you please be more mindful of it." He did seem like he took it a little too personally so I gave him some space, but I checked in on him at the end of the day and apologized if I was too harsh. He said that he's fine it's just the project that's stressful but "you're all good".

Anyway, point being is that, I don't have the patience to tip toe around someone in their mid-30s let alone a real child lol.
I wish more people think about this before deciding to have kids...

68style
07-21-2023, 02:35 PM
My main block with kids is that almost everyone I know who has one is miserable as fuck about it, but try to convince themselves that they're not because it was the "right thing to do" and they're so "rewarding" sometimes. There are exceptions to this of course, even people I know on RS (Great68 comes to mind) who are pleased as punch with a kid... but they're very much the minority. I'm scared as fuck of ending up trapped in something that is miserable and then there's basically no way out at that point.

I can see that it's both good and bad as experienced through my niece and nephew. Sometimes they're so rewarding to be around and others it's like you wish you could throw them out a window.

Part of the problem is competing with other stupid parents... and that kids are spoiled and have to be "in" everything now. My sister spends SO MUCH time getting her kids into every program imaginable because you're a bad mom if you don't.

I don't think this should surprise anyone though, each generation is getting more and more selfish / self-centred and more "It's my one and only life and I'm going to enjoy it" which I also totally understand from a certain perspective, so it only makes sense that self-sacrifice for others (which is pretty much what being a parent is all about) is on the decline bigtime.

StylinRed
07-21-2023, 02:45 PM
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230721085620-01-tony-bennett-restricted.jpg?c=original&q=w_1280,c_fill

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66271090

Tony Bennett dies @ 96

Saw him in concert several years ago dudes voice was amazing even at a ripe old age, was glad to have been able to hear and see an old legend live

RiP

whitev70r
07-21-2023, 03:36 PM
Union leaders recommend members to accept tentative deal to avoid another BC Port Workers strike ... can this be the end?

And in other news today ...

Retired RCMP officer charged in foreign interference case (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-officer-foreign-interference-1.6913872)

Badhobz
07-21-2023, 04:02 PM
Part of the problem is competing with other stupid parents... and that kids are spoiled and have to be "in" everything now. My sister spends SO MUCH time getting her kids into every program imaginable because you're a bad mom if you don't.


very much this. every single parent i know is putting their kids through a gazillion different programs. We didn't have any of this growing up, we just vegged out on TV and played outside; we turned out okay.

Im probably one of the only Asians who dont know how to play the piano or any instrument. Everyone that played an instrument growing up dont even play it now.

westopher
07-21-2023, 05:15 PM
Having a kid really has been the best thing I've ever experienced. I'm a very anxious person, and there has been something cathartic about knowing you have no fucking control over what's going on and you just have to work it out.
That said, people shouldn't feel pressured to have kids. If you don't want it, why does it have to be "what you are supposed to do?" If people didn't have so many fucking kids they didn't like the world would be a lot less full of shitty adults that were raised poorly and treated badly by miserable moron parents.
That does remind me though, I really need to go get neutered. One is good. Having two kids if you aren't rich is a recipe to be bitter about the costs.

Badhobz
07-21-2023, 06:16 PM
That’s because little V is an angel. Daughters are awesome. If it was a fart machine boy I’d throw it out the window.

supafamous
07-21-2023, 06:25 PM
Kids are not for everyone but I love mine and wouldn't want a life without her - she's only 4.5 and I'm already thinking about how much I'll miss snuggling with her. The first couple years were fucking awful though and I thought I was gonna divorce my wife at some point.

I am somewhat surprised though at how many of my friends are kidless considering we're all now in our 40s - at this age the choice has clearly been made. Quite a few are childless b/c they never found themselves a partner - especially the women for whom I won't touch the subject with them cause for most of them it hurts.

Financially I don't think having 1 makes THAT much of a difference - I gave up a bunch of expensive hobbies b/c I didn't have time for them anymore and the money was just transferred to the kid. It's when you have 2 or more that it can become a big deal.

whitev70r
07-21-2023, 06:32 PM
^ doesn't our Cdn gov't give you like $xxx.00 per month per kid?

westopher
07-21-2023, 06:42 PM
If you make enough to actually have a kid, that number is like a tank of gas. Not complaining, but childcare is $1200 a month, so I'm not turning a profit.

supafamous
07-21-2023, 06:49 PM
^ doesn't our Cdn gov't give you like $xxx.00 per month per kid?

Yes? I know I can write off some of my daycare costs but I'm not sure really sure what else I get from the gov't - I make a lot of money so I'm usually well past the cutoffs so I just assume nothing ever applies to me.

supafamous
07-21-2023, 06:55 PM
I'm 26 in a few weeks. I know women are going to ask me this question frequently on dates. It's not a simple answer. It depends on if we can afford it AND provide the child with a childhood that doesn't show struggle. As I reference previously, I grew up in BC Housing and for a decent part of my childhood we got our groceries at the food bank.

Speaking of food banks here's a great read on how the food bank is doing: https://macleans.ca/longforms/food-banks-affordability-inflation-groceries/

All my charitable giving goes to the food bank so I'm a big fan of supporting them and the good work they do - food and shelter are the most important foundations for people - and the food bank is run like a proper business so your donations go a long way.

GS8
07-21-2023, 07:37 PM
I pondered kids for a long time till I realized I wanted to keep my family's genes from spreading.

Badhobz
07-21-2023, 07:50 PM
I said the same thing. The madness dies with me.

whitev70r
07-21-2023, 08:11 PM
If you make enough to actually have a kid, that number is like a tank of gas. Not complaining, but childcare is $1200 a month, so I'm not turning a profit.

I think I tried to put that toward the RESP so the gov't give you say $100/mth and I put it into RESP and it instantly becomes like $120 ... and it can grow for umpteen years. I mean it's not bad, it could be worst ... the gov't could give you nothing.

westopher
07-21-2023, 08:30 PM
Yeah it's totally not bad at all and can go a long way. Just clarifying because some of the RSrs like to talk about how people just have kids so they don't have to go to work and then buy x5Ms with their tax dollars.

Traum
07-21-2023, 10:08 PM
anyone else notice how much extended medical practitioners are charging these days? i still see some that are reasonable, like $110-120/hr for an RMT, but some are charging like $180/hr now? i know most ppl have benefits that pay for this, but when your benefits cover like $500 for each type of practitioner, $500 wouldn't even get you three 1hr massages anymore.
My extended health coverage is an insult -- it pays $10 per visit for my first 10 visits with each type of practitioner, and I believe the total coverage across all the different types is $1000 per year. My shoulder had been acting up recently, so I went to see a physio. By the time I was done with my 5th visit, I have recovered enough that I figure I really wouldn't want to stomach another $500 out of my own pocket, so I stopped going. It is absolute bullshxt.

AND on the other token, I don't know how I can be delicate around a child. Most of my peers, professionally and personally, know that I don't beat around the bush and I tell it how it is.

You might get a better response on the parental thread, but before I had my kid, I had no idea how I can be delicate around a child, both physically and mentally. And on top of that, I had no patience for BS / illogical arguments -- that did not fare well with some of my ex'es, and I had no patience for tantrums either.

But after watching my wife gave birth to our kid, a switch just flipped. I remember how the nurse asked me to cut the umbilical cord, and it was one of the strangest yet most memorable feeling I have ever had. And then when I asked to carry the baby for the first time, that little 3kg's worth of life somehow did something to change me. (Gosh I was freaking out that I'd hurt or break something so delicate...)

I still have no patience for my kid, and my temper still flares every now and then. But I love my little troublemaker, and you find ways to tolerate the mess that they continually create in new a different ways everyday while trying to steer them to do the right thing...
FailFish

In addition to providing material things, the amount of time you can afford to provide is also extremely important. My wife felt like she couldn't possibly offer enough quality time for the kids if we were to have another one. And for me, I felt like I would lose my sanity if I had to handle another kid in addition to what we already have.

We've only put our kid into 3 extracurricular programs, and I already feel like the schedule is killing me. We enrolled him into swimming because that is an essential life skill. We put him into another sport that has weekly 1/2 hour lessons so that he can be more physically active. We take him to Chinese school once a week because we want to make sure he retains at least some of his cultural heritage. The weekday activities are the worst because everything is so rush -- they need a snack after coming home from school, and then traffic is bad by the time kiddo is done with his snack. We still have to prep dinner when we get back.

So honestly, I comprehend how anything / everyone else seem to be able to juggle so many things for their kids, when doing 3 is already killing me.

underscore
07-21-2023, 10:37 PM
Having a kid really has been the best thing I've ever experienced. I'm a very anxious person, and there has been something cathartic about knowing you have no fucking control over what's going on and you just have to work it out.

Same here. When they were newborns it seemed to help me out quite a bit not having the luxury to worry about any of the stuff I normally would.

That said, people shouldn't feel pressured to have kids. If you don't want it, why does it have to be "what you are supposed to do?"

I love my kids more than anything, but having them has made me understand people who don't want kids even more than I did before. It's definitely not for everyone and I can totally get someone not wanting to do this.

Hell all the stuff leading up to actually having a kid can be difficult and dangerous too. Fertility issues, miscarriages, pregnancy difficulties, labor difficulties, recovery difficulties. Even with modern medicine there's a fair amount of risk involved so I can't blame anyone who doesn't want to go through that.

Traum
07-22-2023, 04:12 AM
Personally, me and my wife's biggest concern when it comes to having children is the higher risks of the children having developmental disabilities as the parents get older. Obviously different people have different levels of risks tolerance, but for us, our current age has reached a point where we are at the borderline of that comfort level.

Badhobz
07-22-2023, 04:33 AM
Awww you guys are all such good parents. It warms my heart that the next generation have great role models to follow instead of our incompetent and broke ass parents….well some of us anyways.

These kids are lucky to have you guys.

P.s which dr guy is good for neutering ? I want to get this done too. I’ll come to next meat wearing a cone around my neck

whitev70r
07-22-2023, 05:34 AM
This is YVR's go to snip doc ... and while you're there, he can fix your other problems too like ED.

https://www.pollockclinics.com/

Badhobz
07-22-2023, 06:06 AM
who says i have other problems!?!?!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/05/e6/5b05e6242960a5dac6bc931b83447b09.gif

Hondaracer
07-22-2023, 09:49 AM
Dr.pollock for boner extensions

N.V.M.
07-22-2023, 09:52 AM
are there boner reduction procedures?

donk.
07-22-2023, 10:58 AM
are there boner reduction procedures?

Depends what you want to identify as

GLOW
07-22-2023, 11:58 AM
are there boner reduction procedures?

step 1, look at picture of integra girl
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Badhobz
07-22-2023, 12:01 PM
Dr.pollock

is that a racist word for polish people? hahahah FeelsGoodMan

roastpuff
07-22-2023, 12:21 PM
No he's a fish not Polish (Pollock vs Polack)

EvoFire
07-22-2023, 02:11 PM
anyone else notice how much extended medical practitioners are charging these days? i still see some that are reasonable, like $110-120/hr for an RMT, but some are charging like $180/hr now? i know most ppl have benefits that pay for this, but when your benefits cover like $500 for each type of practitioner, $500 wouldn't even get you three 1hr massages anymore.

They can charge whatever they want, but a lot of the extended coverage has a per session cap. If they charge over the cap you'll have pay out of pocket anyways. So if they charge $180, and your cap is $110 (it was for me a before covid) then you have to pay $70 out of pocket.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/growing-number-of-millennial-gen-z-women-are-childless-by-choice/

Any RS'ers in this camp?

Wife wanted kids, so we had kids. Most of our friends have kids, but I don't know which gen we are part of when we are all ~85-90. I find most couples who get married end up having kids except for the ones that can't, and very few that choose the DINK life.

I'm 26 in a few weeks. I know women are going to ask me this question frequently on dates. It's not a simple answer. It depends on if we can afford it AND provide the child with a childhood that doesn't show struggle. As I reference previously, I grew up in BC Housing and for a decent part of my childhood we got our groceries at the food bank. I don't tend to celebrate holidays or my birthday, but I think that's because growing up, we didn't have money to celebrate it. For Christmas, we'd go to the Richmond Christmas Fund. We never did dinners or have people over, because once again, we couldn't afford it. I don't want my kids to experience that, so the only way I would be willing to have kids is if I can guarantee that they won't have to live a childhood of feeling like we're too poor to live / feeling like a waste of space because the family doesn't have enough money so as a child I feel like a parasite.

AND on the other token, I don't know how I can be delicate around a child. Most of my peers, professionally and personally, know that I don't beat around the bush and I tell it how it is.

Today, I had an employee make a complaint because someone (probably me) hurt his feelings (LOL). Two days ago, I told him, "hey I appreciate your hard work but I found these mistakes, can you please be more mindful of it." He did seem like he took it a little too personally so I gave him some space, but I checked in on him at the end of the day and apologized if I was too harsh. He said that he's fine it's just the project that's stressful but "you're all good".

Anyway, point being is that, I don't have the patience to tip toe around someone in their mid-30s let alone a real child lol.

I think it shows that you have given it enough thought to understand it's not a simple answer, if the girl demands a yes or no then she might not be for since it's not a black and white answer for you. It's also the person you are with as well, you might be a good fit with one person to have kids, but not with another. Then there are people who's sole purpose in life is to have kids.

The whole affording bit though, most will never be financially ready to have a kid. You just need to figure out what is a must have and what you will need to forgo. Organized sports may be an important enough factor for you to forgo traveling somewhere far once a year. Your lifestyle may mean you need to spend money on bikes and the transporting devices required so you can have family rides together rather than having a sports car. Extra curricular activities are more important than always having nice/new clothes, instead doing with hand me downs. It's things that we have to think about all the time, and more so now with 2 kids.

The whole tip toeing bit is tough, especially if the child is very sensitive (like mine)

sonick
07-22-2023, 02:49 PM
Wife wanted kids, so we had kids. Most of our friends have kids, but I don't know which gen we are part of when we are all ~85-90. I find most couples who get married end up having kids except for the ones that can't, and very few that choose the DINK life.


We chose the DINK life, never tried for kids. Wife didn't want kids, was quite surprised when she told me. Growing up she always thought she did but a few years into marriage she felt she didn't really have the urge or desire to do so.

I was indifferent one way or another, just knew I would be all in one way or another as long as we made the most of whatever choice we made.

Badhobz
07-22-2023, 03:03 PM
Wife wanted kids, so we had kids. Most of our friends have kids, but I don't know which gen we are part of when we are all ~85-90. I find most couples who get married end up having kids except for the ones that can't, and very few that choose the DINK life.

we chose the DINK life too (SINK life, but i guess she makes more than me via bank interest/investments than me working).

I became this way after working at a school of autistic children. I cant stand the idea of rolling dice with God. These special needs kids were so sweet, but looking at their parents when they pick up the kids... they just seem like they were defeated or dead inside. They hated their lives and to an extent, im sure they hate their kids too.

There's a small chance, but still a chance nevertheless. Why risk it.

radeonboy
07-22-2023, 03:20 PM
we chose the DINK life too (SINK life, but i guess she makes more than me via bank interest/investments than me working).

I became this way after working at a school of autistic children. I cant stand the idea of rolling dice with God. These special needs kids were so sweet, but looking at their parents when they pick up the kids... they just seem like they were defeated or dead inside. They hated their lives and to an extent, im sure they hate their kids too.

There's a small chance, but still a chance nevertheless. Why risk it.

I went to an elementary school that had a special needs program. Students in the program were integrated into our classroom with a dedicated worker, and we all got along with them fine. I'm sure the parents experienced an extra level of burden, but I never got the impression they ever despised their child. From what I could see it felt like they tried their best and provided as much as they could given the circumstances.

Badhobz
07-22-2023, 03:41 PM
its a bit different having a special needs program as part of the regular school vs a special needs school. The school i was in had all levels of special needs. From high-functioning kids to the poor kids that basically just screamed for 8h.

Guess which one had the parents that looked like they were defeated.

These poor poor kids... life's hard enough without the added challenges of autism.

supafamous
07-22-2023, 05:49 PM
These special needs kids were so sweet, but looking at their parents when they pick up the kids... they just seem like they were defeated or dead inside. They hated their lives and to an extent, im sure they hate their kids too.

I send my kid to a sorta rich kid daycare (CEFA) and some of the very rich parents look like they'd very much rather be anywhere but with their kids. I'd say about half of the kids are excited to see their parents at pickup, a quarter are of the "oh good you're here" and the last quarter look like they're just participating in their daily prison transfer.

I joked with my wife that one of my kid's classmates looks like a miniature 40 year old working 2 jobs to get by. She's perpetually looking bummed and unkempt and her (very rich) parents do nothing but frown much less pay attention to her.

westopher
07-22-2023, 07:33 PM
is that a racist word for polish people? hahahah FeelsGoodManNo that's what the filet of fish is made of.

westopher
07-22-2023, 07:39 PM
we chose the DINK life too (SINK life, but i guess she makes more than me via bank interest/investments than me working).

I became this way after working at a school of autistic children. I cant stand the idea of rolling dice with God. These special needs kids were so sweet, but looking at their parents when they pick up the kids... they just seem like they were defeated or dead inside. They hated their lives and to an extent, im sure they hate their kids too.

There's a small chance, but still a chance nevertheless. Why risk it.
My prior GF who I was with for a long time had a brother with downs syndrome. He is an exceptional guy, tons of fun, huge personality, and loved by everyone. That said, their father, who also is a great man, really had to take on a lot. He is insanely successful, like beyond most peoples wildest dreams, but it was never enough, because of what he thought he needed to provide for his son to have a comfortable life. That was, and is a very scary part of this whole thing, and it was a huge reason why I delayed and delayed it. You want your kid to be ok, regardless of anything, and there are things that go far beyond just being their parent, but being a caregiver, and it can get bigger and bigger than you imagined. There is so much you truly can't control.

Traum
07-22-2023, 09:33 PM
With Down syndrome, I thought it can be detected during pregnancy. So it wasn't very much of a concern to me. But I was concerned about the risk of the baby having other developmental issues, and AFAIK, that risk level goes up with age, and really starts shooting up after 35.

Prior to having our child, my wife and I also had a mutual understanding/agreement that if there were any serious issues being detected in the fetus, we would abort and terminate the pregnancy, and Down syndrome was precisely the example we used in our discussion. Fortunately, we never had to really make that decision.

supafamous
07-23-2023, 08:05 AM
With Down syndrome, I thought it can be detected during pregnancy. So it wasn't very much of a concern to me. But I was concerned about the risk of the baby having other developmental issues, and AFAIK, that risk level goes up with age, and really starts shooting up after 35.

Prior to having our child, my wife and I also had a mutual understanding/agreement that if there were any serious issues being detected in the fetus, we would abort and terminate the pregnancy, and Down syndrome was precisely the example we used in our discussion. Fortunately, we never had to really make that decision.

We had our first when my wife was 40 (she's now 44) and while she would like to have another the risks and challenges of a geriatric pregnancy have been one of the reasons (not the highest) I've not wanted to have a second. It was hard enough the first the time - our first miscarriage resulted in an ambulance ride to the ER then later our kid ended up spending a few days in the NICU when she was born which was then followed by another miscarriage a couple years later that resulted in another hospital stay.

I'm pretty even keeled and not bothered my much but I'm not sure I can handle that all again on top of risks of birth defects like Down syndrome etc (which we would terminate).

Badhobz
07-23-2023, 08:07 AM
dont let the nutjob religious folks hear you say that. they dont condone abortion for any reason no matter how logical.

MarkyMark
07-23-2023, 08:36 AM
dont let the nutjob religious folks hear you say that. they dont condone abortion for any reason no matter how logical.

* As long as none of my tax dollars go towards helping that kid after its born

GS8
07-23-2023, 10:52 AM
Randomly reminds me of back in the way days, Castle Fun Park did not have accessibility of any kind for the disabled because the owners did not want 'those people' in their facility. 'Those people' were an abomination according to them. Given that CFP is in Abby, you get the idea.

mikemhg
07-23-2023, 11:28 AM
Speaking of down syndrome, didn't you guys notice more of them running around when we were kids? I find it rare nowadays to see someone with downs, I assume because we're aborting them before birth as opposed to back in the day?

I had a friend in elementary school named Brian, he had downs. I used to fight other kids that would pick on him, he was a big dumb oaf, easily about a foot taller than all of us and about 20-30lbs heavier. Big silly bastard with bright red hair.

I sometimes wonder what ever happened to him.

mikemhg
07-23-2023, 11:37 AM
I hate people who act like you're some kind of freak if you don't want to have kids.

"Oh you'll change your mind"
"Who's going to take care of you when you're older?!"
"Traveling and all that stuff will get boring eventually"

Fuck outta here, don't try to force me into your miserable life of dirty diapers and 4 hours sleeps. I appreciate the posters here who are honest about how hard it is raising a child, especially in a city like Vancouver.

We're happy as hell traveling about when we want, digital nomading in the fall and winters in Mexico, sleeping in and doing whatever the fuck we want on weekends.

My GF is Filipino so I'm sure if all cards aligned she'd pop out 100 babies, I'm lucky reality also circulates well within her head. The life of freedom is quite alluring to her so we've settled on being DINKs. Considered freezing eggs just in case our mindsets changed, but it bloody hell it's expensive.

supafamous
07-23-2023, 11:51 AM
Speaking of down syndrome, didn't you guys notice more of them running around when we were kids? I find it rare nowadays to see someone with downs, I assume because we're aborting them before birth as opposed to back in the day?

Prenatal genetic testing can now be done quite early and is quite comprehensive so parents know quite early on if there's going to be trouble. It's not 100% accurate but close enough. In some European countries things like Down syndrome has basically been eradicated and it's considered entirely socially acceptable to terminate a pregnancy for this reason. I recall reading an article about how it's almost become socially unacceptable to keep a Down syndrome child.

Gerbs
07-23-2023, 12:25 PM
Quite a few are childless b/c they never found themselves a partner - especially the women for whom I won't touch the subject with them cause for most of them it hurts.


Do you think that past a certain age, people are very unlikely to find a partner, especially for kids? Seems like the majority of girls around me mention they'll be childless if they don't have a good prospect by 28 - 33. From what I see in my current friend groups between 27 - 31, only a small pool of folks who made their $$$ had kids, let alone are married. Almost none of the guys I spoke to are planning to have kids until at least 33 - 40. It sounds like everyone wants to give their kids expensive educational daycare, multi program sports, organic food, best school catchments, funding college, etc.

This increase in costs is delaying their prospects of kids until they can afford it whereas I just grew up in an immigrant family that yolo'd it and never had all this extra stuff. It's been creating interesting convos between my friend where a lot of girls ONLY want their kids growing up with all the luxuries while the guys are indifferent and will only provide if they can afford that extra costs.

westopher
07-23-2023, 12:32 PM
Well, it's easier to have kids later with advances in modern medicine and fertility treatments, but yeah, you kinda need to have the prospects in your early 30s at the latest, because it gets much more complicated after 35. Me and my wife were married for 8 years, together for 11 before the kid came along. We had been married for 6 years before we got serious about the idea. It's a bigger commitment than marriage is.
The blessing about my dad just fucking off when I was born is I never had to deal with a messy coparenting situation like some of my friends did. It's really fucked up having parents that hate each other and having to watch it.

PeanutButter
07-23-2023, 12:39 PM
If you're a woman, 35, and single. Damn. That one must hurt. The chances of them finding a husband is definitely diminishing every day.

I think most single men who are 35 would probably want to date someone younger.

I do know a couple of pretty good-looking girls who are single and are 35+, but the problem with both of them is that they're too picky. And while I do think they are attractive, they definitely don't look like they're 20 anymore.

Gerbs
07-23-2023, 12:49 PM
What do you guys think are crucial conversations you should have with your partner on kids before getting married? We're entering this new era of having both parents being breadwinners so what's a fair way to split duties without resenting a partner. If one earns more do you guys think he/she should do more?

In the past, I noticed a trend where girls I've casually dated suggested they'll only want to marry partners that had the same mindset of raising the kids with extra 3-5+ curriculars, tutors, west side schools, detached homes for extra bedrooms, funding their post-sec, maid/cleaners/consistent babysitters etc. AKA giving my kids the best life, all of this costs an extra $1.2-2.5/month per kid. If they want 2 - 3 kids, you gotta be raking in at least an extra $4-6k/month to afford this lol. I feel like I'm too selfish for myself where if I had that extra $4-6K/month I don't think I'd want to pour it on my kids. But everyone says this will change once you have the kids.

Less than 1% of my friends have kids or are engaged, and those who do are fortunate enough be single income parents where the wife raises the kids. So y'all are the only one's with experience on this stuff for the next couple of years.

Badhobz
07-23-2023, 12:50 PM
all the single ladies i know who are 35+ pretty much arent even looking.

I got a few friends in that category and i think they've either 1) given up 2) become so used to being independent, they see it as a chore to get into a relationship.

They seem happy enough so i dont even bother hooking them up anymore. Strangely i dont know a lot of single dudes in that category as it seems they've all settled down with somebody good or bad.

I do know a couple of pretty good-looking girls who are single and are 35+, but the problem with both of them is that they're too picky. And while I do think they are attractive, they definitely don't look like they're 20 anymore.


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westopher
07-23-2023, 01:03 PM
What do you guys think are crucial conversations you should have with your partner on kids before getting married? We're entering this new era of having both parents being breadwinners so what's a fair way to split duties without resenting a partner. If one earns more do you guys think he/she should do more?

In the past, I noticed a trend where girls I've casually dated suggested they'll only want to marry partners that had the same mindset of raising the kids with extra 3-5+ curriculars, tutors, west side schools, detached homes for extra bedrooms, funding their post-sec, maid/cleaners/consistent babysitters etc. AKA giving my kids the best life, all of this costs an extra $1.2-2.5/month per kid. If they want 2 - 3 kids, you gotta be raking in at least an extra $4-6k/month to afford this lol. I feel like I'm too selfish for myself where if I had that extra $4-6K/month I don't think I'd want to pour it on my kids. But everyone says this will change once you have the kids.

Less than 1% of my friends have kids or are engaged, and those who do are fortunate enough be single income parents where the wife raises the kids. So y'all are the only one's with experience on this stuff for the next couple of years.
I can only speak from my experience, but we just carried on with our jobs the way we previously did, and adapted our schedules to work with childcare as well as possible. We never had to have a conversation because we both knew that the other person was committed to it. I think thats far fetched for many couples, but it worked for us. That's how we knew it was gonna work. We've never had squabbles about money. What's mine is hers and what's hers is mine. I've made more, she's made more, but it's a partnership. We'd never hold it over each others heads, but we also make sure there would never be a reason for the other to do that. If my wife has something she really wants to do with some friends, and I'm not at work, I'll be taking care of the kid solo, and she does the same. I probably spend a little more time doing childcare than she does solo, but she does more than I do when it comes to cooking, cleaning etc, so we just work with how it fell. Both of us are pretty naturally not lazy people though. That said, lazy people make lazy parents. You just fucking do it, and there's no excuses. It's frustrating to watch parents clearly not paying attention to their kids out in the world. Again, why have one?

EvoFire
07-23-2023, 01:08 PM
What do you guys think are crucial conversations you should have with your partner on kids before getting married? We're entering this new era of having both parents being breadwinners so what's a fair way to split duties without resenting a partner. If one earns more do you guys think he/she should do more?

In the past, I noticed a trend where girls I've casually dated suggested they'll only want to marry partners that had the same mindset of raising the kids with extra 3-5+ curriculars, tutors, west side schools, detached homes for extra bedrooms, funding their post-sec, maid/cleaners/consistent babysitters etc. AKA giving my kids the best life, all of this costs an extra $1.2-2.5/month per kid. If they want 2 - 3 kids, you gotta be raking in at least an extra $4-6k/month to afford this lol. I feel like I'm too selfish for myself where if I had that extra $4-6K/month I don't think I'd want to pour it on my kids. But everyone says this will change once you have the kids.

Less than 1% of my friends have kids or are engaged, and those who do are fortunate enough be single income parents where the wife raises the kids. So y'all are the only one's with experience on this stuff for the next couple of years.

In the last page I said you have to figure what's a need and what's a want and what you need to give up. These women you are describing don't sound realistic or they expect parents to cough up the dough. All of us and my friends have some combo of the aforementioned luxuries but not all of them, you just need to pick and choose.

And Gerbs aren't you also only in your 20s like BAWS? You still got time to go.

Badhobz
07-23-2023, 01:13 PM
We've never had squabbles about money. What's mine is hers and what's hers is mine. I've made more, she's made more, but it's a partnership.

tangent topic:

a friend of mine and his wife are the exact opposite. He wants to split everything down the line 50/50. He'll keep tabs of how much he spent vs how much she spent and demand payback for the difference. Like he bitches about their mortgage and how she doesnt pay her fair share (shes unemployed right now).

Also, if he orders her mom some Amazon crap, he expects to be compensated back (even if its like 20-30 bucks).

Stuff like this seems super petty to me. I mean shes your wife man. Youre suppose to function as one unit not some fucking business relationship. Even when he takes her car in to get serviced, he wants her to pay for her own.

This kinda shit bugs the crap out of me, but thats just how he's raised.

https://youtu.be/oTmg4bfhBsk?t=52

^ Lauren Tom voice of amy wong from futurama. i love her

westopher
07-23-2023, 01:30 PM
Maybe it's because we have been together since we were young, so neither of us really had much when it all started, but it seems crazy to me when people can be in a relationship and there isn't an equality involved. Just seems like you're asking for resentment.

supafamous
07-23-2023, 02:22 PM
Do you think that past a certain age, people are very unlikely to find a partner, especially for kids? Seems like the majority of girls around me mention they'll be childless if they don't have a good prospect by 28 - 33. From what I see in my current friend groups between 27 - 31, only a small pool of folks who made their $$$ had kids, let alone are married. Almost none of the guys I spoke to are planning to have kids until at least 33 - 40. It sounds like everyone wants to give their kids expensive educational daycare, multi program sports, organic food, best school catchments, funding college, etc.

Knowing what I know now about my 40-something lady friends I'd say that if a woman wants kids they better be partnered up by the age of 35. It seems that the window between 35-40 is really brutal for women looking for a partner - the biological clock is starting to scream out loud and men can smell it and don't want to be "baby trapped".

After 40 it seems to get better cause the biological clock kinda stops screaming and you're pairing up with people who probably don't want kids either or who have given up on the idea. I have a number of 40-something couple friends who got together after kids wasn't an option and they seem like pretty healthy relationships.

I'm bummed for my 40-something single lady friends - I know some of them really wanted to have kids and I think they would have been amazing moms but finding someone just never happened for a variety of reasons. At least for men there's still a window to be an old dad (even if you're not George Clooney).

supafamous
07-23-2023, 02:29 PM
tangent topic:

a friend of mine and his wife are the exact opposite. He wants to split everything down the line 50/50. He'll keep tabs of how much he spent vs how much she spent and demand payback for the difference. Like he bitches about their mortgage and how she doesnt pay her fair share (shes unemployed right now).

Also, if he orders her mom some Amazon crap, he expects to be compensated back (even if its like 20-30 bucks).

Stuff like this seems super petty to me. I mean shes your wife man. Youre suppose to function as one unit not some fucking business relationship. Even when he takes her car in to get serviced, he wants her to pay for her own.

That's fucked up but also not that uncommon if you read the relationship/AITA Reddits - the men are the worst. Entitled little babies thinking they're doing their women a favour.

I also don't quite get (but understand) those who keep separate finances and pay into a shared account especially when one makes way more than the other. You're in a marriage, shouldn't you both have the same quality of life? Especially if you have kids? Like does one of you feed the kids the good ice cream while the other feeds them Western Family ice cream? Or one of you can take the kids to Disneyland while the other walks around the outside of the aquarium listening to the seals and sea lions?

I prefer to run the finances like that Starship song said, "We built this city on rock 'n roll (and shared finances)".

EvoFire
07-23-2023, 02:49 PM
That's fucked up but also not that uncommon if you read the relationship/AITA Reddits - the men are the worst. Entitled little babies thinking they're doing their women a favour.

I also don't quite get (but understand) those who keep separate finances and pay into a shared account especially when one makes way more than the other. You're in a marriage, shouldn't you both have the same quality of life? Especially if you have kids? Like does one of you feed the kids the good ice cream while the other feeds them Western Family ice cream? Or one of you can take the kids to Disneyland while the other walks around the outside of the aquarium listening to the seals and sea lions?

I prefer to run the finances like that Starship song said, "We built this city on rock 'n roll (and shared finances)".

We have a joint account and separate finances. It's worked out for us to allow us to have whatever hobbies or luxuries without affecting the family. I do contribute more as I make almost double my wife, but we also discuss and negotiate some of the expenses that happen to make sure everything is on the up and up. Buy the M3 was coming out of my finances but it was a joint decision.

It's just whatever that works for your communication style and lifestyle.

Gerbs
07-23-2023, 02:54 PM
Maybe it's because we have been together since we were young, so neither of us really had much when it all started, but it seems crazy to me when people can be in a relationship and there isn't an equality involved. Just seems like you're asking for resentment.

I’d share the same resentment if you built that with your SO growing up since you’re young, grinding and sharing simple good times on free or cheap dates.

I feel as you build yourself up financially alone, it’s harder to find that mindset of what’s mine is hers when there can be massive gaps in finances due to smart life choices made in your late teens and early to mid 20’s. Live like a hobo, save, , avoid nose lattes, build your skills, invest your nest egg. That nest egg now feels like a baby of its own that you are hesitant to share so easily. I’m not sure how you break out of that mindset.

Badhobz
07-23-2023, 03:32 PM
our finances are pretty much simple: I just give her access to everything, all my accounts, my emails, everything, and anything.

That way it's full transparency. I hide nothing and she has nothing to worry about. When i buy something i always ask, although sometimes i dont value her opinion (like the ratrolla which she adamantly opposed)

I always encourage her to spend my income because I think it's from an outside source (not from family money, or her investments). Yes, i technically "worked" for it, but shes my wife. Just having to deal with my insane ass should be compensated.
I dont know, maybe im old school.
Im the one who wouldnt even let her work. i think its beneath her to grind out a shitty pay cheque when she could be just enjoying her life. Why spend 8h doing some menial job when you can spend 8h doing whatever you want? It's not like she's idle either, she has to micromanage my shit, her family stuff, and take care of the household.

A lot depends on this tiny spy balloon and especially now that the folks are getting older. Lots of appointments and familial duties to attend.

GS8
07-23-2023, 03:34 PM
My GF is Filipino so I'm sure if all cards aligned she'd pop out 100 babies, I'm lucky reality also circulates well within her head. The life of freedom is quite alluring to her so we've settled on being DINKs. Considered freezing eggs just in case our mindsets changed, but it bloody hell it's expensive.

Sana alllllllll

I'm a Jowa as well:h5:

Talking about older singles, it just reminds me of how shit, how absolute shit the dating culture is nowadays. I thank fuck everyday I'm out of it but also feel bad for those who are waist deep in it. Really is no surprise to have kids later when it takes 15 years to find the one rose in the pile of manure.

Badhobz
07-23-2023, 03:36 PM
I feel as you build yourself up financially alone, it’s harder to find that mindset of what’s mine is hers when there can be massive gaps in finances due to smart life choices made in your late teens and early to mid 20’s.

that could be it. A very accurate analysis of my friend's mindset.

Dont get me wrong hes not a bad guy, nor is he vindictive. Its just the way he's raised. He wants equality and thinks the other person should put up their fair share.

I get that, but i think he takes it a bit far sometimes. Seems like he's putting finances above her/their happiness.

MarkyMark
07-23-2023, 03:47 PM
our finances are pretty much simple: I just give her access to everything, all my accounts, my emails, everything, and anything.


Did she ask for this or you just gave it up voluntarily? Do all your text messages and phone calls get sent to her too? Does she do the same for you?

SSM_DC5
07-23-2023, 03:51 PM
Hobz, the BBC pics I emailed you...... You didn't tell me your wife would see it too!

Badhobz
07-23-2023, 03:58 PM
Did she ask for this or you just gave it up voluntarily? Do all your text messages and phone calls get sent to her too? Does she do the same for you?

nah it just sort of happened... i dont even recall when i gave her all my passwords
1) im too stupid and / or lazy to remember separate passwords
2) It gives us both a sense of security. I laugh every time she texts me WTF WHY DID YOU BUY THAT TRASH ON AMAZON!?!?! cuz her phone gets notifications of my amex card spending

Im not sure when it turned into this .. but out of all my relationships, this one is the most honest and open. Hell we've been together 15 years and i wouldn't change a damn thing. no secrets, no lies, everything is upfront and open. I love it. I also have access to her phone but i really dont give a damn where she goes or what she does; as long as shes happy.

GS8
07-23-2023, 04:48 PM
Im not sure when it turned into this .. but out of all my relationships, this one is the most honest and open. Hell we've been together 15 years and i wouldn't change a damn thing. no secrets, no lies, everything is upfront and open. I love it. I also have access to her phone but i really dont give a damn where she goes or what she does; as long as shes happy.

waddy41 has left the forum :okay:

Traum
07-23-2023, 05:11 PM
My wife and I got married when we were in our mid-30's. While we were still at the dating stage, I knew I wasn't a spring chicken (or is that a duckling?) anymore, so I made it a point to discuss the kind of future that I would like to have with my partner-in-life. I also made subtle suggestions that if she wasn't onboard with having children in the future, then we'd be the wrong match for each other.

IMO this was one of the great things about dating in your 30's -- you are more mature at this point, and you don't flip out over this sort of thing. I can totally imagine how some of the girls I dated in my 20's would flip out if I told them that I won't marry them / we need to break up if she doesn't want the kind of future (family) life that I'd like to have.

In terms of division of work and family finances, we just do whatever is necessary. It makes more sense for me to do certain things than it is for her to do so, so I end up taking on those duties, and the same goes for her. My $$$ is my $$$, but it is also her $$$, and the same thing applies to her as well. I ask her for money when I need to, and she uses my credit card when she buys stuff.

At first, she thought I was being too spendy on my car stuff. I pushed back and assured her that my recreational spendings would never jeopardize our family finances, and she relented. Over time, she has come to see that participating in the car scene is something I enjoy tremendously, and that it is a big part of my leisure side, so she has pretty much turned a blind eye on me for that.

In turn, I don't ever meddle in her recreational spendings and activities. In fact, more often than not, I encourage her to do stuff more often bcos her sense of duty for her work is probably too strong for her own benefit.

As far as extracurricular things are concerned, our primary consensus is that we both wanted to ensure our kid would grow up having a good dose of exposure to his Chinese cultural heritage, so he gets put through the pain and suffering of having to learn Chinese lol~ When it comes to additional extracurricular activities, that is severely limited by our ability to take him to get those lessons. Realistically for working parents, I think it is insane to do more than 3 extracurricular thing during a normal week, and even with 3 things, it is still pretty difficult.

(For those who don't know, learning written Chinese is a major PITA, as written Chinese is inherently a very difficult language to learn.) Ultimately, I don't think he will be able to read a typical Chinese newspaper, but as long as he can read a proper Chinese dinner menu, I'd say our goal has been achieved LOL~
What do you guys think are crucial conversations you should have with your partner on kids before getting married? We're entering this new era of having both parents being breadwinners so what's a fair way to split duties without resenting a partner. If one earns more do you guys think he/she should do more?

In the past, I noticed a trend where girls I've casually dated suggested they'll only want to marry partners that had the same mindset of raising the kids with extra 3-5+ curriculars, tutors, west side schools, detached homes for extra bedrooms, funding their post-sec, maid/cleaners/consistent babysitters etc. AKA giving my kids the best life, all of this costs an extra $1.2-2.5/month per kid. If they want 2 - 3 kids, you gotta be raking in at least an extra $4-6k/month to afford this lol. I feel like I'm too selfish for myself where if I had that extra $4-6K/month I don't think I'd want to pour it on my kids. But everyone says this will change once you have the kids.

Less than 1% of my friends have kids or are engaged, and those who do are fortunate enough be single income parents where the wife raises the kids. So y'all are the only one's with experience on this stuff for the next couple of years.

PeanutButter
07-23-2023, 08:17 PM
RE: Kids

You should 100% talk about expectations in regards to starting a family, marriage, expectations, etc.

@GERBS, if you're dating women who say those things, I automatically think of girls from the crazy rich asians. You're definitely dating those types of Chinese women.

Having kids is f*********cked bro. You can not even comprehend the amount of stress children put on a relationship. If you or your partner have any shred of entitlement, are lazy, or lack compassion/empathy... You better have money for a nanny because if not, your relationship is going to be in trouble.

There is no such thing as 50/50 in a relationship. If you have a 50/50 expectation be prepared to be constantly disappointed in your partner and this will lead to resentment, 100%. I guarantee it.

When it comes to children you have to be selfless. Based on my friends with kids, the mother does the majority of the caregiving and they are usually better equipt to handle that role, probably due to evolution and biology. That being said, if the wife is also bringing home the bacon, it's not unreasonable for the man to help out around the house and with the kids. This may be different if the man is the sole breadwinner though.

If the women you date are saying those things, I would take that at face value and you better be prepared to provide that lifestyle. That's not to say that's a bad thing, if it works for you, then go for it.


Being a parent, we're always at family types of outings and I really hate to judge, but I do. There should be no reason to hit your child in public or yell at them in a derogatory way, yet we see this regularly. Bro, go to Science World on a Saturday and you'll find plenty of examples.

My ass was beaten when I was a kid (hand, coat hanger, feather duster, wooden spoon, etc.) and I always thought I would beat my kids. Now that I have kids, there is nothing they are doing now that is so egregious that I would have to beat them. You have to teach them, you have to shape them. My firm belief is that the child is the way they are because of the environment they grow up in. So if they're being a little shit, maybe parents should look at where and how their kids are growing up before they write them off as just being an asshole.

That is to say, I don't know if being a parent is for everyone. We need more kids for our population though... so I guess it's better to have kids than not?

bcrdukes
07-24-2023, 05:32 AM
My kid is going to an East Van inner city school (think Britannia / Van Tech / Tupper / John Oliver) and if they make it out alive and graduate, they've earned some level of street cred because the beatings they get won't be from me. :troll:

MG1
07-24-2023, 05:40 AM
What a beautiful sound this morning................. the sound of rain.

Much needed.


Having said that, drive carefully. Roads will be slicker than normal. Not the water but the shit that rises to the top. After 10 to 15 minutes, it's all okay.

Speaking of driving. It's summer and school is out, but don't go speeding through school zones just yet. Summer School is in session. Not all schools, but in Burnaby, look for the little sign below the usual School Zone sign. It'll read, "Summer School in Session."

I've seen people scream up the hill at my neighbourhood elementary school. Not 50 or 60. Saw one truck booking it up the hill at least 80 kmph.

supafamous
07-24-2023, 05:47 AM
https://www.burnabynow.com/human-resources-education/the-key-to-a-happy-marriage-might-be-joint-bank-accounts-researchers-say-7312173

On the topic of shared/not shared finances:

Joint bank accounts might be the spice of (married) life. According to the authors of a new research paper published earlier this year, couples who want their honeymoon to last longer might want to merge all of their bank accounts into joint accounts.

Relationship quality has been found to peak right around the wedding day, followed by a sharp decline over the next two years. We may colloquially know this as the “honeymoon phase,” but researchers have coined it the “connubial crucible” and the dynamics of a relationship during this period are fairly good predictors of long-term happiness and rates of marital breakdown.

Couples who were told to merge their bank accounts into joint accounts were able to avoid the decline in relationship quality during the two years after their wedding. Conversely, couples who were instructed to keep their bank accounts separate and couples who were given no instructions at all both exhibited the standard decline in relationship quality. (A substantial 72 per cent of couples given no instructions self-selected into separate accounts, and of the 28 per cent who chose joint accounts, most set up those accounts after the one-year mark in the two-year study.)

What is particularly striking about this research is that it is the first paper to draw a causal link between how couples set up their bank accounts and the impacts on the quality of the relationship. Prior research had already found that couples who kept separate bank accounts experienced lower relationship satisfaction and were more likely to break up than joint-account holders, but those papers showed correlation, not causation.

That distinction is very important. For example, while ice cream sales and shark attacks might both peak in the summer (correlation), buying ice cream does not cause more shark attacks to occur, nor do shark attacks cause people to buy more ice cream (causation).

The jury was previously out on whether joining bank accounts leads to higher relationship quality, or if people in better relationships are more likely to set up joint accounts. This paper shows that, on average, combining bank accounts leads to better relationships.

So what is it about joint bank accounts that can change the dynamics of a relationship? The researchers propose three potential mechanisms: improved feelings about money management, financial goal alignment and sustained adherence to communal norms.

Couples in communal-oriented relationships tend to provide support to one another because a partner needs support, while exchange-related relationships are characterized by providing support as a means of prepaying for future favours. The former is associated with better long-term relationships and a sense of shared responsibility and mutual support, encouraging a mindset of “we” rather than “me.”

However, while the decision to merge finances can have positive implications, it’s crucial to remember that every situation is unique. On average, merging bank accounts had a positive effect on relationship quality, but the authors caution that this doesn’t mean everyone should rush to completely merge their finances. In some cases, maintaining separate accounts can serve as a form of financial protection.

The paper’s lead author, Dr. Jenny Olson, notes, “We fully acknowledge that joint accounts may not be ideal for all couples. For example, partners entering second marriages, those with children from previous relationships, older couples – essentially, those with relatively more complex financial histories than first-time newlyweds.”

Alyssa Davies, author of the book Financial First Aid, adds that the entire goal of having a healthy relationship is to find ways to work as a partnership or a team. But there can be many valid reasons to have some degree of separate banking arrangements, and only using joint accounts can be risky.

“You are putting yourself at risk if something happens and you and your partner split up. It’s perfectly okay to protect your future or past self – if you’ve experienced something traumatic or like to have a sense of security in controlling your finances, that’s okay. And having a partner who gives you the space and understanding to work through this sort of financial trauma is important,” says Ms. Davies.

She suggests a partial combining of bank accounts can make a lot of sense for some couples. “You can share accounts and credit cards and still give yourself access to your own money, whether it be a personal emergency fund, or you each give yourself an equitable portion of your earnings as free spend money,” says Ms. Davies.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 05:55 AM
My kid is going to an East Van inner city school (think Britannia / Van Tech / Tupper / John Oliver) and if they make it out alive and graduate, they've earned some level of street cred because the beatings they get won't be from me. :troll:

pretty sure they dont do that anymore bro. Our "hood" has all been yuppified.
The only way to experience that nowadays is to drop them off in surrey or further. Even then, the surrey we grew up with (car jacking capital of canada), isnt the surrey of today.

FeelsBadMan

bcrdukes
07-24-2023, 06:07 AM
Wow, I am REALLY out of the loop on all things Vancouver! :pokerface:

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 06:15 AM
this guy i work with has his kid in vantech. He says theres no fights anymore, no kids hanging around the stairs on the west side of the building smoking (you know where the adults drop off their kids?)

When's the last time you heard of a shanking in a high school? these new kids are much more tame than us.

Hondaracer
07-24-2023, 06:25 AM
As if any of those schools were ever “rough” to begin with

What’s the average household value of someone going to John Oliver? 3 million? Lol

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 06:48 AM
they were in the 90's and early 2000's. Heck, in my graduation year tech had quite a few dudes die from gang violence.

Dont forget most of these homes in the area were bought by immigrant parents that either waited on tables or washed dishes. Not nearly the same as the yuppies who are buying them up nowadays for 1.8m-2.4m for a Vancouver special.

westopher
07-24-2023, 07:01 AM
There's still like half a generation left here of people who have 3 million dollar houses with a 60k household income. Not that it's necessarily a metric of how shitty the kids are gonna be, but definitely a driver of gang shit, theft and drug issues comes from inequality.

MG1
07-24-2023, 07:43 AM
Britannia was never tough........ just under half the student body were made up of skinny chinese kids. The other half were guido wannabe's

Any trouble makers got sent to Templeton, then Van Tech. Van Tech was the breeding grounds of the worst of the worst. This, of course, back in my day.

JO was a "who cares," kind of school. Tupper had a bit of a bad rep. Killarney and Windemere, just like JO. Nothing came out of there. Gladstone was interesting, though.

Anyway, school is nothing like it used to be. The only school I knew of from the other side of the tracks, was Magee. Nuff said.

Then there was Notre Dame (private school). Damn football team. No fair. All that money thrown their way. Still, Brit gave them a run for their money.

Bruins vs the Jokers. We had Barry Houlihan. They had Lui Passaglia.


Addendum: I kind of take that back. Brit did have a portable for students with issues. Pregnant girls, drug addicts, basic, "headed to prison," types. They were placed in a portable as far away as possible from the "normal" kids. I think the class was referred to as 8J, or something like that. I don't even think they were mentioned in the yearbook. Speaking of yearbooks, I've gotta find my collection. Such great memories.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 07:49 AM
Any trouble makers got sent to Templeton, then Van Tech. Van Tech was the breeding grounds of the worst of the worst. This, of course, back in my day.

:fullofwin: hilarious, i love telling people i went to tech (to the horror of my poor wife) :fullofwin:

MG1
07-24-2023, 07:54 AM
There's more than just a couple of RS members from Van Tech, gulolololol...........


East Van Rules!

SSM_DC5
07-24-2023, 08:05 AM
^is that y you're in Burnaby now?

MG1
07-24-2023, 08:08 AM
Can't afford Vancouver............. would, if I could.

I don't think I can afford the place where I grew up (DTES). So sad.


Moved out to the Valley (White Suburbia / Bible Belt) to get closer to work (Abbotsford). By the time I was ready to move back, too late. House I live in now is half the house, twice the price. I had a very nice place in Walnut Grove. All paid off, too.


I blame it all on Expo 86. We should have stayed a village.


https://bcsportshall.com/curator-corner/1979-vancouver-whitecaps-it-took-a-village-to-win-the-nasl-soccer-bowl/ I remember chuckling a bit when I was watching the game at work. Still, better than being named a hamlet.

Hondaracer
07-24-2023, 08:18 AM
Britannia was never tough........ just under half the student body were made up of skinny chinese kids. The other half were guido wannabe's

Any trouble makers got sent to Templeton, then Van Tech. Van Tech was the breeding grounds of the worst of the worst. This, of course, back in my day.

JO was a "who cares," kind of school. Tupper had a bit of a bad rep. Killarney and Windemere, just like JO. Nothing came out of there. Gladstone was interesting, though.

Anyway, school is nothing like it used to be. The only school I knew of from the other side of the tracks, was Magee. Nuff said.

Then there was Notre Dame (private school). Damn football team. No fair. All that money thrown their way. Still, Brit gave them a run for their money.

Bruins vs the Jokers. We had Barry Houlihan. They had Lui Passaglia.


Addendum: I kind of take that back. Brit did have a portable for students with issues. Pregnant girls, drug addicts, basic, "headed to prison," types. They were placed in a portable as far away as possible from the "normal" kids. I think the class was referred to as 8J, or something like that. I don't even think they were mentioned in the yearbook. Speaking of yearbooks, I've gotta find my collection. Such great memories.

Notre Dame wasn’t the jokers, it’s the “jugglers”

And it’s not a juggler like a jester or a joker it’s some sort of religious term which I have a feeling is like an inanimate object lol

My wife went to ND so I always laugh at quite possibly the worst team name that ever existed lol.. she went before the newer school was there and she had all these stories of how her parents were fundraising every fucking weekend for the school doing bingo etc.

I always laugh at that because I went to Fraser heights when it was a brand new public school in 2000 and we had amazing facilities, a fantastic field etc. where as her parents were fund raising for 4 years so that 20 years later they could pay for their nice new turf field lol

GLOW
07-24-2023, 08:19 AM
^is that y you're in Burnaby now?

it's for eye candy :ifyouknow:

MG1
07-24-2023, 08:21 AM
Juggler/Joker same difference. I guess we all knew them as Jokers, gulolol.

I drove by their school not that long ago. That new field. Wow.

MG1
07-24-2023, 08:23 AM
it's for eye candy :ifyouknow:

There's eye candy everywhere.............. Walnut Grove........... dat new overpass.



I was referring to joggers going over the.................. (Almost typed in juggler). Was thinking jugs............... not the football team.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 08:23 AM
we used to go just to pick up their women. although they never wanted to associate with us boys from the hood.

MG1
07-24-2023, 08:26 AM
we used to go just to pick up their women. although they never wanted to associate with us boys from the hood.

Cue, "Uptown Girl," by Billy Joel.

underscore
07-24-2023, 08:28 AM
And it’s not a juggler like a jester or a joker it’s some sort of religious term which I have a feeling is like an inanimate object lol

I was curious so I searched and apparently it's based on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Jongleur_de_Notre_Dame

Le Jongleur de Notre Dame is a religious miracle story by the French author Anatole France, first printed in a newspaper in 1890, and published in a short story collection in 1892. It is based on an old medieval legend, similar to the later Christmas carol The Little Drummer Boy. The title character is a monk who was formerly a carnival performer. The other monks all have made beautiful works in honor of the Virgin Mary: hymns, icons, stained glass windows, and so on. But he has no such craft. So one night he goes into the chapel and performs his best juggling tricks before the statue of the Virgin. The other monks see this and would punish him for blasphemy, but the statue comes to life and blesses the juggler for his gift.

Hondaracer
07-24-2023, 08:30 AM
Somehow it gets even worse knowing that lol..

68style
07-24-2023, 08:40 AM
Honda out there right now searching for a statue of the Virgin Mary and learning to juggle from YouTube.

I think MG1 might be mixing up with John Oliver… their team name is Jokers.

MG1
07-24-2023, 08:43 AM
RIGHT!!!!!!

JO Jokers, lol.


Eric Hamber. went there many times for........................................... summer band camp, gulolol.

quasi
07-24-2023, 08:55 AM
this guy i work with has his kid in vantech. He says theres no fights anymore, no kids hanging around the stairs on the west side of the building smoking (you know where the adults drop off their kids?)

When's the last time you heard of a shanking in a high school? these new kids are much more tame than us.

Last year in Tweedsmuir there was one but I think it was a situation of kid gets jumped and stabs kid jumping him, obviously there was something that lead up to that, I don't really think the schools dangerous.

I believe I've mentioned this before but when I moved to Surrey in 1988 and was in elementary school a kid got stabbed for the same reason. The best part, not expulsion, both kids got suspended a few days and then were back together in the same class room, no way in hell that happens today lol.

PeanutButter
07-24-2023, 09:03 AM
As if any of those schools were ever “rough” to begin with

What’s the average household value of someone going to John Oliver? 3 million? Lol

What high school did you go to?

There were tons of fights when I was in highschool. There were also multiple stabbings and tons of beltings. I remember going to Patterson station multiple times and watching guys AND girls get stomped. There must have been over 100 kids watching sometimes.

You were either in the Bindy Johal era or the Young and Dangerous era where guys thought they were gangsters. And there were tons of guys dealing drugs and it wasn't uncommon to hear about them getting killed. I know two friends of mine who were shot and killed. That was probably more a function of them being drug dealers than anything, but they still went to school with us.

Van Tech, Templeton, and Brit definitely had reputations as being "rough" as most of the kids that got kicked out of highschools went there, but that didn't exclude the highschools further south of having DD and bad kids.

MG1
07-24-2023, 09:07 AM
^^Kirpan?

I hear they are dull as the posts on RS.

Then again, there's John Wick and pencils. Nuff said.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 09:11 AM
What high school did you go to?

There were tons of fights when I was in highschool. There were also multiple stabbings and tons of beltings. I remember going to Patterson station multiple times and watching guys AND girls get stomped. There must have been over 100 kids watching sometimes.

You were either in the Bindy Johal era or the Young and Dangerous era where guys thought they were gangsters. And there were tons of guys dealing drugs and it wasn't uncommon to hear about them getting killed. I know two friends of mine who were shot and killed. That was probably more a function of them being drug dealers than anything, but they still went to school with us.

Van Tech, Templeton, and Brit definitely had reputations as being "rough" as most of the kids that got kicked out of highschools went there, but that didn't exclude the highschools further south of having DD and bad kids.

me thinks Honda grew up in some fru fru rich area. not hood rats like us.
:alone:

Hondaracer
07-24-2023, 09:12 AM
Went to Fraser heights, which was the opposite of rough lol however interacted with a lot of people from Guildford park etc. which may be considered “rough” at the time. And there was the occasional stabbing etc. one of my best friends first day at north Surrey in like 98 a hand gun fell out of a guys jacket and it was a big thing lol

I’m moreso saying relative to what you’d call “rough” in the states or even many parts of Ontario like Scarborough etc. which had legimate housing ghettos, most of Vancouver was pretty tame.

East van was def much rougher in those early 90’s to 2000’s than today. However a lot of those “bad” kids probably still came from “ok” families. There hasn’t really been a time when the lower mainland was stricken with poverty. It’s probably worse now generally speaking than it ever had been before.

Back then though prior to the internet and the resources available I’m sure a good chunk of the bad kids were from immigrant families who were even moreso oblivious to the idea of assimilating into Canadian society than they are today

Edit* although.. I have a couple friends who went to Fraser heights a few years younger than my and they had classmates that eventually ended up as torsos in shallow graves so I guess it’s who ya know lol

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 09:15 AM
oh for sure, compared to ontario and other east coast places vancouver is tame. But not that we would know, we grew up here and it was already pretty bad.

I recall witnessing a fight at tech, these two dudes going at it. Big crowd of kids egging them on. One of them collapsed on my bicycle, so i beat them both up for scratching my bike. Principle comes up, asked what's going on here?!?! we all said we were just "playing" even though these kids had a black eyes and bleeding noses.

Ah the good ole days.

Hondaracer
07-24-2023, 09:22 AM
Growing up in Surrey I probably never thought I’d call East Van home as an adult but what I find interesting is my wife who grew up in the house we live in now recalls times when east van was seemingly rough AF and they had like a block watch to call out drug deals constantly going down, friends and family in the area had their homes broken into quite frequently etc.

Obviously now it’s been incredibly gentrified, but given the societal issues we have presently with homelessness and drug addiction etc. you’d think areas like mine that are in relatively close proximity to the DTES would be as bad if not worse than before. But I guess people Don’t stand for shit like that once it becomes an upper middle class hood and the pressure to police etc. grows.

I get kinda pissed off when we have some friends who live at like main and 16th talk about Hastings sunrise like it’s the core of the DTES, I want to be like bitch, you got fucking crack heads picking cans 5 feet away from your head while you’re sleeping and you think our area is bad? lol we don’t see any of that in our area really yet you think the area honestly, I walk around quite a bit at night and I’m honestly surprised how dead it is (or at least free of seedy characters for the most part)

Also the evolution of technology and the visibility crime gets these days probably has a hand in it as well. Just a thought I always have hearing my wife talk about growing up in the area

PeanutButter
07-24-2023, 09:28 AM
Growing up in East Van, I never really heard much news about Surrey. I guess because internet wasn't a thing to get news, so I don't really know how bad it was in the Guildford Park area. I do remember LA Matheson being bad too, but had no experience with Surrey at all.

Hondaracer
07-24-2023, 09:36 AM
Guildford park was the first school I ever heard of having a day care for students kids, and that was in the late 90’s/early 2000’s

Although that might have been an urban legend lol

Gerbs
07-24-2023, 09:37 AM
As if any of those schools were ever “rough” to begin with

What’s the average household value of someone going to John Oliver? 3 million? Lol

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/samurai-sword-wielding-attacker-sentenced-to-6-years-10-months-in-manraj-akalirai-killing-1.3640715

I remember this in high school outside my friends house by JO.

quasi
07-24-2023, 09:43 AM
Growing up in East Van, I never really heard much news about Surrey. I guess because internet wasn't a thing to get news, so I don't really know how bad it was in the Guildford Park area. I do remember LA Matheson being bad too, but had no experience with Surrey at all.

I went to that school in the early 90's and then QE for 11-12. I don't know if it was that bad, I never really had too many issues but I hung around with some big guys in both schools that nobody really wanted to fuck with. There were fights without a doubt, I watched my buddy who is still one of my best friends today beat the shit out of two guys at once at QE throwing one of them down a flight of stairs and pummelling the other one. It's not like violence was a daily thing though or you were scared to walk around the school.

Mikoyan
07-24-2023, 09:51 AM
Guildford park was the first school I ever heard of having a day care for students kids, and that was in the late 90’s/early 2000’s

Although that might have been an urban legend lol

Tupper had a program for teen moms in the 90s.
People always asked me "why are there all these yearbook pics with girls holding babies?" When looking through my yearbooks.

Bindy lived next door to a Teacher at Tupper. The teacher's tenant was killed when a hit went wrong. They thought he was Bindy as they both had rotties they walked at night.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 10:20 AM
i wore a white, mickey mouse and goofy, t shirt on my first day in grade 8 and promptly got my shit kicked. totally deserved that one hahah

These kids can get away with wearing rainbow tie dye nowadays and nobody would even blink. They also swear less than us, are more tolerant, and less racist/homophobic.

Thats progress! im glad its a better environment for these kids. Although i think it might make them a bit weak when it comes to facing future adversity, its still progress nevertheless.

yray
07-24-2023, 11:00 AM
I guess with cameras everywhere now, can't really do anything physical.

virtual world on the other hand is a whole can of worms

MG1
07-24-2023, 11:06 AM
i wore a white, mickey mouse and goofy, t shirt on my first day in grade 8 and promptly got my shit kicked. totally deserved that one hahah

Damn, son.............. I would have kicked your ass, too........ and then some.

Your mom dresses you funny.

Yeah, grade 8 was scary and wAnderful at the same time. Went to Strathcona Elementary prior............... first week at Britannia. Never seen Italian chicks before. Those assets............... mama Mia!

Only seen titties like that in magazines...............



Em Gee Juan out!

mikemhg
07-24-2023, 11:34 AM
Sana alllllllll

I'm a Jowa as well:h5:

Talking about older singles, it just reminds me of how shit, how absolute shit the dating culture is nowadays. I thank fuck everyday I'm out of it but also feel bad for those who are waist deep in it. Really is no surprise to have kids later when it takes 15 years to find the one rose in the pile of manure.

:fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

BIC_BAWS
07-24-2023, 11:56 AM
Thats progress! im glad its a better environment for these kids. Although i think it might make them a bit weak when it comes to facing future adversity, its still progress nevertheless.

Case in point, the employee I referenced in my earlier post didn't show up for work again today, claiming "joint pain" and his feelings are still hurt..

What a little bitch LMAO definitely didn't get beat enough to understand accountability


Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 11:59 AM
WATCH OUT! he might report your ass to HR.

underscore
07-24-2023, 12:02 PM
The last two batches of rice I've made in our rice cooker have turned out all fucky, the outside is mush but the insides are still hard? It's like a weird mix of over and undercooked at the same time. Could this somehow be a problem with the rice or is my cooker dying?

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 12:04 PM
sounds like a rice cooker issue. Like its not steaming the rice or something and just bathing the rice in hot water.

westopher
07-24-2023, 12:11 PM
Bic, while I don't doubt you're right, be careful how you handle it. The amount of hassle crybabies can cause you at work isn't worth the venting sometimes.

quasi
07-24-2023, 12:55 PM
That's fucked up but also not that uncommon if you read the relationship/AITA Reddits - the men are the worst. Entitled little babies thinking they're doing their women a favour.

I also don't quite get (but understand) those who keep separate finances and pay into a shared account especially when one makes way more than the other. You're in a marriage, shouldn't you both have the same quality of life? Especially if you have kids?Like does one of you feed the kids the good ice cream while the other feeds them Western Family ice cream? Or one of you can take the kids to Disneyland while the other walks around the outside of the aquarium listening to the seals and sea lions?

I prefer to run the finances like that Starship song said, "We built this city on rock 'n roll (and shared finances)".

This actually works so well for us, I'd recommend to everyone. We've been together 25 years next month happily married the last 18 and have a kid who's graduating next year. We have some joint accounts and some separate, I have no clue what my wife has in her savings or day to day checking account that I have no access to and vice versa. I pay a larger share into our joint accounts every month because I make more. Anything related to our house including mortgage, taxes, insurance, cable, power, gas as well as groceries, cellphone bills, contingency's is joint. We never argue about money, not that I do it a lot because I'm cheap but if I want to spend money I don't have to worry about how my spending will effect my wife or what she'll think.

We have the same quality of life, I make sure she's able to put away enough money every month with me paying more into the joint accounts so she's able to do what she wants.

I just booked a trip to take my son to see a football game in Minnesota in Sept, something like that I pay for out of my savings account. My wife went to see her friend in Toronto a few months ago, she paid for that out of her savings account. If we go on a family vacation, I usually pay for it. If my wife needed anything from me I'd give it to her if have it.

It's just my opinion, I don't think there is one answer or one method that works for everyone, you have to find what's comfortable and what works to maintain a healthy relationship. I can assure you that we are very happy living like this, I couldn't imagine being without my wife and I'd like to think she thinks the same of me at least that's what she's telling me haha.

snowball
07-24-2023, 01:08 PM
The last two batches of rice I've made in our rice cooker have turned out all fucky, the outside is mush but the insides are still hard? It's like a weird mix of over and undercooked at the same time. Could this somehow be a problem with the rice or is my cooker dying?

sounds like the element is dying, not getting hot enough, so it's just soaking warm water into the outside of the bowl.

68style
07-24-2023, 01:56 PM
The last two batches of rice I've made in our rice cooker have turned out all fucky, the outside is mush but the insides are still hard? It's like a weird mix of over and undercooked at the same time. Could this somehow be a problem with the rice or is my cooker dying?

Sounds like you're making rice while white

Buy a zojirushi lol

Razor Ramon HG
07-24-2023, 02:10 PM
When my parents got married, they merged all their finances together into joint accounts. Every single account they ever got was always joint ownership. But our predicament was a little different. My mom said he didn't know how shit my dad was with his finances and how little savings he had. Made sense, my dad was buying $30 undies (in the 1980s). Because of my parents, I always thought joint accounts were the norm.

I asked my girlfriend (who I've been living with for the past several years) and she said we'd probably have a single joint account for shared finances and maintain a personal account - not that I really care. Having your personal account means the missus can never bitch about the useless shit us men buy LUL

Razor Ramon HG
07-24-2023, 02:13 PM
Bic, while I don't doubt you're right, be careful how you handle it. The amount of hassle crybabies can cause you at work isn't worth the venting sometimes.

Several years ago, I had a friend who just started at ICBC. He bitched about a coworker for being lazy over a private Whatsapp chat during his probation and I guess someone mentioned it in passing because he got fired over it.

Now if anyone has to bitch, I tell them to wait until their probation is over.

:seriously:

underscore
07-24-2023, 03:40 PM
Sounds like you're making rice while white

I was fully prepared for that to be a significant factor haha.

Buy a zojirushi lol

That was going to be my next question. Any particular model I should get? Our current one is a basic Salton automatic that has markings for 4 cups but really maxes out at 3 and I need something bigger. Should I get a programmable one or should my white ass stick to an automatic so I don't fuck up the settings?

whitev70r
07-24-2023, 03:53 PM
^ Salton ... therein lies your problem ... who buys a White Company produced rice cooker, made in Canada ... Tiger is your best friend. Or Zojirushi ... unless you like Uncle Ben's rice!

MG1
07-24-2023, 03:57 PM
A Salton?????????? OMG!

Zojirushi, Tiger, Cuckoo, in that order. There are some really nice Korean Made rice cookers out there. Cuckoo being one of them.

I purchased a Made in Japan Tiger rice cooker from Bellingham Costco in case my Zojirushi dies. Damn thing won't die. The inner pot looks like it's been through three world wars.

The Tiger is $99.00 USD and it goes on sale often for $89.00 USD.

Cuckoo goes on sale at Costco Canada every once in a while............... Salton? Damn, I'm so disappoint, son.

Wait...... you white? That explains it. Then again, so is 68style, gulolol. White guy who knows his stuff. Nuff said.

Razor Ramon HG
07-24-2023, 03:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/bzyPbum.jpg

You guys need to step up your rice cooker game.

Mine has been blessed by the OG.

MG1
07-24-2023, 04:01 PM
BTW, the best appliance I have in the kitchen is a Zojirushi Hybrid Hot Water Dispenser. Often asked why spend money on something like that............... let me tell you. It is just plain worth every penny, cent, yen rupee, etc.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 04:06 PM
Then again, so is 68style, gulolol. White guy who knows his stuff. Nuff said.

he get's an honorary Asian card. He porked enough of our women to steal our secrets so we might as well let him in. :pokerface:

whitev70r
07-24-2023, 04:09 PM
BTW, the best appliance I have in the kitchen is a Zojirushi Hybrid Hot Water Dispenser. Often asked why spend money on something like that............... let me tell you. It is just plain worth every penny, cent, yen rupee, etc.

you may want to explain to our fairer skin fellow RS'ers ... what a hot water dispenser is ... :lol

whitev70r
07-24-2023, 04:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/bzyPbum.jpg

You guys need to step up your rice cooker game.

Mine has been blessed by the OG.

Saves the original box/packaging of any appliance ... tell me you are Asian without telling me you are Asian.

MG1
07-24-2023, 04:22 PM
Saves the original box/packaging of any appliance ... tell me you are Asian without telling me you are Asian.

You know what's scarier? My Aunt had (now in my possession) two brand new unopened Beta Max players. She had so many tapes. She was told Beta would become extinct (it did) and wanted to make sure she had one in case the one she had died. Receipt taped to the box. I should donate them to the Smithsonian, gulolol.



On second thought, I think one was opened to check the contents. Anyway..............



Why would anyone buy anything that has the word "beta" in the name?

yray
07-24-2023, 04:36 PM
I bought the cheap induction panasonic rice cooker and it didn't cook rice. I screamed at panasonic and asked them how could a Japanese appliance company make a rice cooker that can't cook rice

in the end I bought the $ 600 made in Japan version lol

SkinnyPupp
07-24-2023, 04:55 PM
Get a pressure rice cooker and it'll be done in like 15 minutes. All the Japanese brands have them but they're $500 USD and up

MG1
07-24-2023, 04:55 PM
Panasonic used to be the brand to get. We're talking way back. In fact, they were called National Rice Cookers. Made by Matsushita Electric (Panasonic). I still have my mom's National Mochi Maker. It's nearly 45 years old, but still makes perfect mochi.

I think they were the only company that made huge ass restaurant size rice cookers. Not sure what's being used nowadays. I used to work at a Japanese distributor that dealt with Matsushita products (when I was in high school). Drove around in a panel van........... pads on the sides that served as not only padding to protect products, but............. :ifyouknow:

Yup, shaggin wagon........ I was the asian version of 68style


Ah....... the good ol' days.

underscore
07-24-2023, 05:39 PM
My parents had a National when I was growing up, I think it predated me by probably 5 years and it was bomb proof. I can't remember if they still have it.

Costco has this one, it seems to fit the bill for a good price? I may be white but I need rice too much to wait for a sale lol. https://www.costco.ca/tiger-micom-5.5-cup-rice-cooker-and-warmer.product.4000035660.html

Damn, I'm so disappoint, son.

I'm sure the rice was too. Just a wall of white disappointment staring at me, it was like being at a family reunion.

Razor Ramon HG
07-24-2023, 05:42 PM
Our old one was a National. We had it for as long as I could remember up until like maybe 10 years ago. We definitely got our moneys worth.

MG1
07-24-2023, 05:43 PM
My parents had a National when I was growing up, I think it predated me by probably 5 years and it was bomb proof. I can't remember if they still have it.

Costco has this one, it seems to fit the bill for a good price? I may be white but I need rice too much to wait for a sale lol. https://www.costco.ca/tiger-micom-5.5-cup-rice-cooker-and-warmer.product.4000035660.html.

That's the one I got from Bellingham. Get it and tell me how good it is. I might retire the Zojirushi. I hate looking at the inner pot. Looks like crap.

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 07:49 PM
^You can make rice in the instant pot if you have one of those.

sonick
07-24-2023, 08:22 PM
Haha I must be the only Chinese household that does not have a rice cooker or hot water dispenser.

StylinRed
07-24-2023, 08:28 PM
I notice the rice cookers in Japan have a ceramic/stone pot inside looks so fancy, my rice cooker hasn't been upgraded in like a decade+ definitely eyeing one

StylinRed
07-24-2023, 08:29 PM
Haha I must be the only Chinese household that does not have a rice cooker or hot water dispenser.

:fulloffuck:

Badhobz
07-24-2023, 08:30 PM
His ancestors are soooooo trash talking him right now.

MG1
07-24-2023, 08:44 PM
I've mentioned this before. My mom had a friend who made the most amazing rice. The traditional way. Pot over flame.

I remember her being autistic. Gifted when it came to traditional cooking.


I used to make rice the traditional way. Having a gas stove, I should really take up the challenge. Boil until water is almost gone. Turn it down, then off when there are holes in the rice (formed from the bubbling of rice). Take pot off stove and let cool. Fluff the rice a bit later. Put it all in a wooden rice tub (ohitsu) and cover.

Instead of traditional wooden ohitsu, I use this https://www.amazon.ca/Norpro-1066-Tortilla-Pancake-Keeper/dp/B000A1EX34/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=FrzKW&content-id=amzn1.sym.0606cc44-75bd-471a-a861-3925e60effe6%3Aamzn1.symc.e5c80209-769f-4ade-a325-2eaec14b8e0e&pf_rd_p=0606cc44-75bd-471a-a861-3925e60effe6&pf_rd_r=9WPKVXVJAE272GYKNZZZ&pd_rd_wg=96Jd3&pd_rd_r=35111b2c-54bb-4de1-bb08-32eec736836f&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

Cheaper on eBay or Amazon.com. Same ones the sample ladies use at Costco. Keep rice warm and is dishwasher and microwave safe.

westopher
07-24-2023, 08:49 PM
I've always cooked rice on the stove. The idea of having another giant piece of shit to store in my tiny kitchen is insane haha. The instant pot pisses me off enough.

sonick
07-24-2023, 08:52 PM
I've always cooked rice on the stove. The idea of having another giant piece of shit to store in my tiny kitchen is insane haha. The instant pot pisses me off enough.

Haha I don't have an instant pot or air fryer either.

Admittedly I do have a stovetop pressure cooker tho.

Klondike
07-24-2023, 09:31 PM
Britannia was never tough........ just under half the student body were made up of skinny chinese kids. The other half were guido wannabe's

Any trouble makers got sent to Templeton, then Van Tech. Van Tech was the breeding grounds of the worst of the worst. This, of course, back in my day.

JO was a "who cares," kind of school. Tupper had a bit of a bad rep. Killarney and Windemere, just like JO. Nothing came out of there. Gladstone was interesting, though.
I went to Gladstone in the late 00s. We had a few troublemakers but they all got sent elsewhere. Pretty laid back from what I remember - students were mostly Asian (Viet/Chinese) with a bit of brown and white. Didn't hear much out of Windermere or DT. I assumed Brit was just kids from chinatown and natives. Never crossed my mind that there were guidos, but it makes sense since commercial dr is right there :lol

My viet coworker went to Tupper in the early 00s and said it was a tough school - same with Killarney.

Panasonic used to be the brand to get. We're talking way back. In fact, they were called National Rice Cookers. Made by Matsushita Electric (Panasonic).

My grandma has a national rice cooker. That shit's about to be a family heirloom, along with her many woodwards, zellers and eatons plastic bags.

The zojirushi in our house is probably going to outlast me :lawl:

roastpuff
07-24-2023, 09:38 PM
^You can make rice in the instant pot if you have one of those.

The instant pot rice is no bueno. And takes just as long as a regular rice cooker.

MG1
07-24-2023, 10:03 PM
I went to Gladstone in the late 00s. We had a few troublemakers but they all got sent elsewhere. Pretty laid back from what I remember - students were mostly Asian (Viet/Chinese) with a bit of brown and white. Didn't hear much out of Windermere or DT. I assumed Brit was just kids from chinatown and natives. Never crossed my mind that there were guidos, but it makes sense since commercial dr is right there :lol

Back in the 60's Britannia was nothing but Italians and chinese. Not a whole lot of natives. Brown? Never saw a single brown kid at Brit. Little Italy was like chinatown. The Italians are now in North Burnaby. Not sure when that happened. Neighbourhoods change, I guess.


I take that back, I do remember one brown kid. Last name was Sodhi. We called him Sodhi Pop. Only reason I remembered him. One black dude, my best friend. That's about it. Black and white......... errrr....... white and yellow.

SkinnyPupp
07-24-2023, 10:15 PM
We've been using the same Toshiba rice cooker since we moved in 2006.. Still works fine! Most of our other appliances have been replaced - fridge, washer, kettles, etc. Dryer got blown away in a storm. Rice cooker is still going, though it looks rough. Takes a long time too, like 45 minutes.

I like being able to just throw in rice and make the rest of dinner, and it's one less thing to cook.

I use a Tefal "instant pot" pressure cooker too, and it makes rice in about 15 minutes but it's not as good so it's only used when I forget to make rice (which happens more often than I'd like)

radeonboy
07-24-2023, 10:54 PM
Dryer got blown away in a storm.

How strong must that wind be for a dryer to get blown away?! Guess in HK it's not only rain that comes down when a storm arrives...

68style
07-25-2023, 07:13 AM
Probably electrical surge

EvoFire
07-25-2023, 09:10 AM
I hate the instant pot, massive thing that takes up a ton of space and dishes all come out the same. Don't get me started on that inner pot.

We do need a new rice cooker cause our made in China Tiger is wearing out. It's provided 11 years of good usage but we need a new one. Other than the Costco one that seems to be quite good, what else do you guys recommend? I've tried to do my research but there's just too many options out there.

radeonboy
07-25-2023, 09:14 AM
I hate the instant pot, massive thing that takes up a ton of space and dishes all come out the same. Don't get me started on that inner pot.

We do need a new rice cooker cause our made in China Tiger is wearing out. It's provided 11 years of good usage but we need a new one. Other than the Costco one that seems to be quite good, what else do you guys recommend? I've tried to do my research but there's just too many options out there.

https://www.thebay.com/product/zojirushi-10-cup-stainless-steel-pressure-ih-rice-cooker-zo-np-nwc18xb-91842876.html?queryID=69578bfbbc40463ed4b829dd5770 dd57&objectID=91842876

I have this at home and it's excellent.

EDIT: Which rice cooker are you looking at from Costco?

whitev70r
07-25-2023, 09:37 AM
Wow ... you guys be ballin at $600 for rice cooker ... real Asians would go to FB Marketplace like this:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/155114897582594/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A7348d47d-6458-4f26-b442-edd044a7a8a1

yray
07-25-2023, 09:39 AM
Wow ... you guys be ballin at $600 for rice cooker ... real Asians would go to FB Marketplace like this:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/155114897582594/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A7348d47d-6458-4f26-b442-edd044a7a8a1

NO PRESSURE NO CERMAIC COAT NO INDUCTION

:rukidding:

Hakkaboy
07-25-2023, 09:50 AM
BTW, the best appliance I have in the kitchen is a Zojirushi Hybrid Hot Water Dispenser. Often asked why spend money on something like that............... let me tell you. It is just plain worth every penny, cent, yen rupee, etc.

Have you replaced your lid and inner ring on your hot water dispenser yet?

My almost 10 year old MIJ one is starting to deteriorate and apparently this is common thing and it needs to replaced every few years?

supafamous
07-25-2023, 09:50 AM
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00007J5U7

The Zojirushi neuro fuzzy logic rice cookers consistently are top 2 in most reviews. $250 seems like a lot of money for a rice cooker but I suppose it'll last 10-15 years so not really expensive.

Review: https://www.epicurious.com/expert-advice/what-is-the-best-rice-cooker-article

supafamous
07-25-2023, 09:51 AM
Have you replaced your lid and inner ring on your hot water dispenser yet?

My almost 10 year old MIJ one is starting to deteriorate and apparently this is common thing and it needs to replaced every few years?

No problems on mine and it's about 9 years old.

radeonboy
07-25-2023, 09:57 AM
Wow ... you guys be ballin at $600 for rice cooker ... real Asians would go to FB Marketplace like this:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/155114897582594/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A7348d47d-6458-4f26-b442-edd044a7a8a1

Think I'd rather get this one at that price point:https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/6000196184404

bcrdukes
07-25-2023, 10:24 AM
I am probably in the minority, but I am personally not a huge fan of the pressure rice cookers. I miss our old National rice cooker as the rice had a nice chew to it and with these pressure rice cookers, the rice is too soft.

But if you are Asian and you know the saying of eating soft rice, it's the life I want, but not the rice I need. :D

Razor Ramon HG
07-25-2023, 10:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXgFtZK_XxM

He has the same Martin Yan rice cooker :fuckyea:

BTW, anyone know him? He mentioned he's from Burnaby and it's a small world after all.

bcrdukes
07-25-2023, 10:30 AM
Martin Yan - Yes. I know his daughter and ex-son in law. :D

I've met Martin several times and see him every few years.

Razor Ramon HG
07-25-2023, 10:32 AM
Shit, I meant the guy in the YouTube video, Greg, lol. I've watched a lot of his videos.

bcrdukes
07-25-2023, 10:32 AM
oh my bad lol nope

yray
07-25-2023, 10:36 AM
what ever happened to dbaz?

is he fully converted japanese now?

Badhobz
07-25-2023, 11:05 AM
But if you are Asian and you know the saying of eating soft rice, it's the life I want, but not the rice I need. :D

my rice is so fucking soft its congee :badpokerface:

bcrdukes
07-25-2023, 11:11 AM
my rice is so fucking soft its congee :badpokerface:

I hate you openly and without regret

Edit:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_511eHD_va4Y/TEG6uem6y-I/AAAAAAAAAY4/qsDmBW9SaGg/s1600/Lakitu+candor.jpg

Badhobz
07-25-2023, 11:14 AM
you too can do this! just leave your wives and go on sugar mama's.com

I HOPE YOU LOVE FISH, cuz you'll be eating a lot of it (not applicable to 69style since he has white guy dietary restrictions... <- weak)

donk.
07-25-2023, 11:35 AM
Keep us onions out of your profiling badhobz......

mikemhg
07-25-2023, 11:35 AM
We cook rice both ways, rice cooker, or on the stove.

Rice cooker is good if you're doing just plain rice, but I prefer stove for flavor. Stove allows you to toast the rice a bit with oil to add flavor, onion and garlic as well if you wanna be fancy.

I find most people fuck up stove rice because they lift the lid too soon, letting out all the steam. Don't do that shit. Once it's boiling, lower the temp and LEAVE THE FUCKING LID ON, DON'T TOUCH IT.

Razor Ramon HG
07-25-2023, 11:38 AM
We cook rice both ways, rice cooker, or on the stove.

Rice cooker is good if you're doing just plain rice, but I prefer stove for flavor. Stove allows you to toast the rice a bit with oil to add flavor, onion and garlic as well if you wanna be fancy.

I find most people fuck up stove rice because they lift the lid too soon, letting out all the steam. Don't do that shit. Once it's boiling, lower the temp and LEAVE THE FUCKING LID ON, DON'T TOUCH IT.

When our rice cooker finishes cooking rice, we open it after a few minutes, mix it up good, then close the lid and let it rest for another ten minutes.

I remember in home ec, our teacher drilled it into us to not open the lid if making rice on the stove, lol.

whitev70r
07-25-2023, 11:40 AM
^ for stove top flavour, u gotta go clay pot then.

Hondaracer
07-25-2023, 11:43 AM
Stove top rice = way too much work lol

I dropped out cheapo black and decker rice maker and it broke the auto-off, so now probably burn the house down one day when I forget to set a timer

68style
07-25-2023, 11:49 AM
Sounds like someone is building up a plausible excuse to call the fire department :gayfight:

MG1
07-25-2023, 12:50 PM
Have you replaced your lid and inner ring on your hot water dispenser yet?

My almost 10 year old MIJ one is starting to deteriorate and apparently this is common thing and it needs to replaced every few years?

Mine still good............ I think. Better check..........

MG1
07-25-2023, 01:05 PM
BTW, I eat nothing but short or medium grain Cal Rose rice.

Once in a Blue Moon, jasmine or generic long grain............

If you're really in a pinch and/or lazy as fuck. Microwaveable sticky rice is ready in one minute (some 2 minutes). Just saiyan.

Uncle Ben's Perverted Rice. Black dude with big smile on packaging. What's with that? I like Italian Risotto.

Enough about rice, lol. I'm not that wild about wild rice, either.

Okay..... sticky rice wrapped in whatever shit from Chinatown. Hit and miss.I've had amazing ones as well as vomit type.

Traum
07-25-2023, 01:24 PM
Ricers talking about rice. Luv it~ :lol

Badhobz
07-25-2023, 01:40 PM
ive been actually addicted to eating east Indian long grain rice recently. Its just more flavorful and goes well with saucy meats like curries etc. Also has a better chew / mouth feel than the fluffy Chinese / Japanese stuff.

Great68
07-25-2023, 01:41 PM
Parboiled rices like Uncle Bens makes for the best textured rice pilafs. Also in things like cabbage rolls where the texture the individual grain is important (no clumpy sticky rice here)

EvoFire
07-25-2023, 02:14 PM
BTW, I eat nothing but short or medium grain Cal Rose rice.

Once in a Blue Moon, jasmine or generic long grain............

If you're really in a pinch and/or lazy as fuck. Microwaveable sticky rice is ready in one minute (some 2 minutes). Just saiyan.

Uncle Ben's Perverted Rice. Black dude with big smile on packaging. What's with that? I like Italian Risotto.

Enough about rice, lol. I'm not that wild about wild rice, either.

Okay..... sticky rice wrapped in whatever shit from Chinatown. Hit and miss.I've had amazing ones as well as vomit type.

There's a hole in the wall place on Victoria that used to be in Chinatown They do cheap rice rolls, buns, and lor mai gai. Since I've moved to Victoria Drive I've visited a few times. $4 chern fun that can fill you up is not bad, not healthy but w/e.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ve1xCGLWhJ3Zg2Fd9

supafamous
07-25-2023, 02:21 PM
There's a hole in the wall place on Victoria that used to be in Chinatown They do cheap rice rolls, buns, and lor mai gai. Since I've moved to Victoria Drive I've visited a few times. $4 chern fun that can fill you up is not bad, not healthy but w/e.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ve1xCGLWhJ3Zg2Fd9

Love that place. For $4 the beef or pork rice roll is delicious.

whitev70r
07-25-2023, 02:45 PM
^ Tak Fung ... you forgot sticky rice, veg stir fried noodles, AND you have to order the shrimp cheung fun (> beef and pork that they have ready to go), they make it fresh for you in about 5-10 mins. But do NOT order their turnip cake, it's the shitz.

SkinnyPupp
07-25-2023, 04:15 PM
How strong must that wind be for a dryer to get blown away?! Guess in HK it's not only rain that comes down when a storm arrives...
Yes it happened in 2018 and was the worst storm in decades... It completely changed the landscape of Hong Kong, pulling out so many old trees, it just didn't look the same after that.

I had my washer and dryer out on the balcony and it blew the dryer into what used to be my neighbour's kitchen

https://i.imgur.com/kTRiGKd.jpg

That was honestly the scariest day of my life, because it came very close to blowing my balcony doors out, and that would have been a complete catastrophe for my entire house. Thankfully it held up.

I don't have any video of that, but here's one from my office on the other side

https://streamable.com/89bs8g

My balcony faces a valley, so I got a full view of what a devastating T10 storm looks like, and it doesn't show well on video, but it's really fucking scary.. It's as if the sky itself is alive and really fucking angry.